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Gillmor Gang Live 05.16.13 (TCTV) - http://techcrunch.com/2013...
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Gillmor Gang - Robert Scoble, Paul Davidson, John Borthwick, Douglas Rushkoff, and Steve Gillmor. Recorded live from New York City BetaDay conference 11am Pacific/2pm EST.
- Steve Gillmor
you guys just throwing the stream up for grins?
- Jerry Schuman
maybe the guys will see chat anyway
- Tina Chase Gillmor
cool, they're doing a remote GG from IO. Awesome
- Jerry Schuman
not IO - from NY BetaDay
- Tina Chase Gillmor
ok.. just saw the post on G+. Sorry about that. Too bad the stream keeps dropping for me.
- Jerry Schuman
hmm i have solid stream here
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Could be me.. I've reboot Chrome. It's been giving me issues lately.
- Jerry Schuman
Gillmor Gang live
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hello
- Keith Teare
I'm here ...
- John Taschek
hello GG folks... get ready... set...
- Tina Chase Gillmor
3,2,1
- Kevin Costain
I was there yesterday - well computer History Museum
- Kevin Marks
Keith... I have no idea why but your video feed is being chopped off at my end... not your fault but Ive never seen this happenh before
- Tina Chase Gillmor
sorry Keith
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Longtime GG fan. First time live though, all the way from New Zealand @belindasimcox
- Belinda Simcox (Sim)
And Facebook is using Bing.
- Nir Ben Yona
Maybe angle so your head is touching top of screen
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Welcome Belinda thanks for joining
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Robert, does the Wink app picture taking make a noise?
- Kevin Costain
Eye Wink http://techcrunch.com/2013...
- Murray Macdonald
Yeah I hate that crap too
- Tina Chase Gillmor
yes, hated this for years: http://epeus.blogspot.com/2009...
- Kevin Marks
How not to be Viral: http://epeus.blogspot.com/2008...
- Kevin Marks
Is the stream dropping packets for anyone else?
- Jerry Schuman
Automated emails should be required to identify themselves as such.
- Murray Macdonald
Agreed Murray.
- Robert Scoble
+Kevin Costain: yes, the wink app, when it works, chimes as it takes a photo and the projector lights up.
- Robert Scoble
looks rock steady here Jerry. but know that I've said that....
- Tina Chase Gillmor
looks good for me.
- Murray Macdonald
LOL Robert, you're such a google+ addict (re: +kevin).
- Nir Ben Yona
is email social?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
haha.. @nir, I didn't see that immediately.
- Kevin Costain
for some people. I know mailing list fans
- Kevin Marks
I wonder, what value could Google extract from "Glass" if they were able to track what you LOOK at?
- Kevin Costain
Apple is at single digit growth in a market growing at 40% http://venturebeat.com/2013...
- Murray Macdonald
Tina. Yes I think email is. You message others. Got to be social
- Keith Teare
well, they can broadly - they have camera direction, not eye direction
- Kevin Marks
Moe: I think Tim is in over his head.
- Robert Scoble
It was the LaserWriter
- Jerry Schuman
The Amiga was ahead in hardware... The OS and experience were clunky.
- Murray Macdonald
Hi everyone :)
- Charlie Isaacs
no doubt it was Pagemaker and LaserWriter that killed the Amiga
- Jerry Schuman
<blush>
- Murray Macdonald
I wish I could +1 some of the comments here, like Jerry's. Facebook and Google+ have really improved how comments work.
- Robert Scoble
hi belinda
- Kevin Marks
Reputation-based real-time reporting like Waze does with traffic and police activity will be the future
- Charlie Isaacs
Microsoft is highly profitable... http://www.theverge.com/2013...
- Murray Macdonald
It probably didn't hurt that I bought around 5000 macs for Hughes Aircraft either
- Jerry Schuman
boy that was bad grammar on my part :)
- Charlie Isaacs
Yeah, why are we using FF for comments still?
- Jerry Schuman
Because it works.
- Murray Macdonald
It's not tea time yet Kevin
- Jerry Schuman
it's always tea time
- Kevin Marks
Kevin has a beautiful tea pot today. Love it
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I should have used the matching teacups
- Kevin Marks
so English
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'm cross posting to the 10 Meter band using Morse code Jerry Schuman
- Charlie Isaacs
My programmer buddies are over 50% Andoird. It's easier to develop for.
- Murray Macdonald
I remember when the OS switch happend in early 2000 for OSX. The years prior EmergingTech show was 90% PC... next year it flipped on it's head.
- Jerry Schuman
And... Yahoo just bought the 4th startup for this week. Astrid, GoPollGo, Milewise, and now Loki Studios.
- Nir Ben Yona
the iPhone is too small
- Kevin Marks
@Kevin - I remember everyone saying the iPhone 5 was too big :)
- Kevin Costain
Did Robert just realtime correct a swear?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
well, it's too thick, but the screen is too small
- Kevin Marks
You mean another Steve Jobs?
- Christian Burns
yes, Tina, did you hit the dump button in time :)
- Charlie Isaacs
7 Second Scoble delay :)
- Kevin Costain
We are moving at 65 MPH and Scoble wants us to be driving at 100 mph
- Christian Burns
OSI vs. TCP/IP don't bring back bad memories ;-)
- Jerry Schuman
Apple is sleepy while the HTML5 and JS communities are moving at lightspeed. New platforms are popping up everywhere. The launch of the harp.io platform is exciting.
- Murray Macdonald
no new Beatles? Steve is obviously not a Belieber
- Charlie Isaacs
I want my jetpack
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Self driving cars will revolutionize delivery and economics. Products will transport themselves and night.
- Murray Macdonald
Ditto Tina. The Jetsons over promised
- Belinda Simcox (Sim)
Wait till the hackers get ahold of your self driving car
- Jerry Schuman
Government regulation is what will keep the poor from being able to afford self driving cars
- Christian Burns
After market for self driving cars will be huge
- Jerry Schuman
What about self-driving car lanes?
- Kevin Costain
the Jetsons brought us Facetime
- Charlie Isaacs
I drive all day for my job, and try my best to emulate a google self driving car.
- Christian Burns
I'm going to get off Friendfeed and wait outside for Scoble's car to come pick me up. see you guys
- Charlie Isaacs
Robert is 100% right
- Murray Macdonald
BTW: hard to believe but the Knowledge Navigator vision came out sans Steve. That was Sculley's era
- Jerry Schuman
Apple wont show it until it is beautiful.
- Christian Burns
seriously though, Google fails forward extremely well. Even if self-driving car and Glass fail, they (and we) are learning so much from these. And from all of the other projects they shuttered.
- Charlie Isaacs
NeXT brought Steve Jobs back. Apple needed a new OS.
- Murray Macdonald
though the Apple Media Lab people who made Knowledge Navigator were hired in the Jobs era
- Kevin Marks
Jerry is right on, open source aftermarket self driving delivery trike.
- Christian Burns
Tweet that
- Kevin Costain
Newton was actually based on some R&D I worked on regarding expert systems. I was sorely disappointed it failed.
- Jerry Schuman
Steve's comment about processors catching up is spot on... that's what will happen with Glass and self-driving car
- Charlie Isaacs
Deliver me to work while I get some work done. My scooter would get 100 mpg
- Christian Burns
Hey Data Soup.... YAY!
- Jerry Schuman
Palm pilot was fun
- Christian Burns
data soup was so damn slow
- Kevin Marks
I knew you'd chime in Kevin ;-)
- Jerry Schuman
I had one of those Kyocera Palm flip phones.. amazing phone..
- Kevin Costain
Believe in open standards... Why limit it to two companies?
- Murray Macdonald
Cause he was listening to people Like Steve Gillmor and John Taschek
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Jobs, like Benioff, had/have a rare combination of creative/technical/vision/marketing skills and they knew/know to hire people to make their dreams come true
- Charlie Isaacs
Products that change us and how we do things becoume part of our lives and we just cant live without them
- Christian Burns
Google is hiring all the futurists
- Christian Burns
Facebook delivered a revolution in a browser, using open standards, not a corporate platform. Only cross-platform developments can access everyone given the fragmentation.
- Murray Macdonald
and people like Charlie Isaacs and Kevin Marks
- Tina Chase Gillmor
The mobile phone market was a far more lucrative and far more ready to disrupt vs. a tablet
- Jerry Schuman
Steve remade narratives all the time
- Kevin Marks
Kevin is right.
- Robert Scoble
Does the camera really make it look like I gained 10 lbs, or did I actually gain 20...
- John Taschek
1+ Jerry
- Christian Burns
what Steve's saying about the iPhone-- I believe that was confirmed in Isaacson's book about Jobs
- Charlie Isaacs
I'll agree with the phone argument from Jerry.
- John Taschek
But notebooks -- going all the way back to the first "ultraportables" (Zenith) are even in more need to be disrupted. They're not mobile the way people think of mobile now.
- John Taschek
Nice shot of Kevin's cat Tina :)
- Charlie Isaacs
We switched out our dell laptop for an ASUS
- Christian Burns
The story is the key. If you can't tell a story about something, the something probably won't exist for long.
- John Taschek
Our laptops are used to Netflix at our house.
- Christian Burns
poor Kevin, the cat is trying to eat him today
- Tina Chase Gillmor
she's trying to shed on me I think
- Kevin Marks
Keith is completely on target re: the narrative.
- John Taschek
Apple's 1st phone was developed by Hartmut Esslinger in 1983 http://mashable.com/2011...
- Murray Macdonald
Apps was the new narrative.
- John Taschek
I also believe there was a deep desire to hurt Microsoft in the mobile space. Windows Mobile destruction was a nice carrot
- Jerry Schuman
there were apple phone adaptors in the 90s
- Kevin Marks
Google is building what changes our lives
- Christian Burns
If I think like Scoble, he should be talking about the new narrative as being Context. Who has the best "Context?"
- John Taschek
Google
- Christian Burns
queue Robert's book pitch "Context"
- Jerry Schuman
Google is paying attention to notification in depth http://news.cnet.com/8301-10...
- Kevin Marks
I'm talking into a cat
- Kevin Marks
I think about Samsung and all the assets they have (appliances, heavy industry, cash). Google - future. Apple - ecosystem, love, belief. Microsoft -- history....
- John Taschek
Wait - it's the Catphone!
- John Taschek
Office is dead
- Christian Burns
would you hold a cat to your ear?
- Kevin Marks
Long live Office
- Jerry Schuman
What happened to Scoble's "Apple"is where all the Apps are developed!?
- Kevin Costain
Office is alive and well. MS made 6B last quarter.
- Murray Macdonald
The always on nature of mobile phones provides the data usage that miners and telcos live on. The "phone" becomes another network node of messaging, socializing,and consuming.
- Aron Michalski
Phil Shriller?
- Kevin Marks
Long live free Office 97 disks borrowed from my uncle
- Christian Burns
show title?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
"A cat in my tea"
- Murray Macdonald
Aron, Verizon shared data has moved my data usage to time shifted downloads, again.
- Christian Burns
Google doesn't have products... I'll say it again.
- Jerry Schuman
trying to be a web company while trying to be what?
- Kevin Marks
They have systems that feed their AI
- Jerry Schuman
@Tina, Apps and a Cat
- christina sponselli
+1 Jerry
- Christian Burns
HTML5/JS apps are the next battlefield.
- Murray Macdonald
Kevin's calico is caressing his face with her tail. she's sweet for him
- Tina Chase Gillmor
cat's got his toungue
- Charlie Isaacs
HTML is a "Marks" Up Language ...
- John Taschek
Christina - not bad
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Mozilla OS is what would be nice to put on my Rasberry Pi
- Christian Burns
I have to jump in 5 mins
- Keith Teare
Yeah it takes you to Chrome, Youtube, etc.
- Nir Ben Yona
now can you throw a Beatles song aroud that?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
What has dramatically changed is how decoupled and loose systems have become. Granular feature focus tied to RESTFULL comms
- Jerry Schuman
The JS community is on fire. It's moving faster than anything. ObjectC is a drag, and Java is android only.
- Murray Macdonald
Keith we do too
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Andoird Intents are amazing. JS is the answer that bridges all devices.
- Murray Macdonald
new video codec in js this week
- Kevin Marks
Agree on the Intents Murray -- what a concept, multi-tasking
- Charlie Isaacs
What OS will your emedded systems run? Embedded in your body?
- Christian Burns
Apple will introduce an intents equivalent at WWDC I'll be money on that
- Kevin Marks
The web is the delivery channel for REST. REST is the magic all these platform apps and JS cross platform apps. JS is the language showing the growth.
- Murray Macdonald
JSON is good too
- Kevin Marks
I am spending almost all day with data turned off on my nexus, to save battery.
- Christian Burns
Agreed Kevin Marks.
- Murray Macdonald
It's all a giant compound document. The future is Cyberdog
- Jerry Schuman
Family plan streaming, up to 4 streams at once.
- Christian Burns
JSON to app and app to JSON is great
- Keith Teare
you don't see bittorrent in traffic stats anymore as its more efficient and encrypted
- Kevin Marks
and yet everythign yo usee is in html
- Kevin Marks
Save the web, use time shifted downloads.
- Christian Burns
Html rendered in a round format
- Christian Burns
just google it
- Christian Burns
Moe, is that your show title idea?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
the web was always centered on information but market adoption focused on the marketing "brochure" side of things. It's just going back to its origin
- Jerry Schuman
Remember when Scoble and Marks were not on Gillmor gang?
- Christian Burns
Great gang as always.....
- Jerry Schuman
Fabulous tuning in live. I'll be back!
- Belinda Simcox (Sim)
Fun show, thanks for joining us again!
- Robert Scoble
Great show
- Christian Burns
Thanks! Great weekend everyone.
- Nir Ben Yona
It beats being on Bloomberg http://www.bloomberg.com/video...
- Robert Scoble
Thank you EVERYONE!!1
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Loved your TNW keynote by the way Robert http://thenextweb.com/video...
- Belinda Simcox (Sim)
Robert is great on bloomberg,
- Christian Burns
Can someone explain to me the meaning behind the Gilmoor Gang comment concerning Adam and Eve. What do Adam and Eve have in common with Steve Jobs? Is the future of computing really going to be all tablets and laptop? No more netbooks or even desktops? In 20 years, is everyone going to be wearing a computer on their physical body?
- Lamar Morgan
Gillmor Gang Live
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hi. Here's today's show!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Hello - no link to the video though
- Kevin Marks
Watch it live here: http://www.building43.com/realtim...
- Robert Scoble
Aloha!
- Nir Ben Yona
That pic went VIRAL robert.... i was both scared and proud at the same time
- Matthew Voshell
Tesla + Apple? http://www.bloomberg.com/news...
- Matthew Voshell
Wink to take a photo #Glass
- Nir Ben Yona
hey everyone...
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Graph Search gonna give Google headaches https://www.facebook.com/notes...
- clive boulton
@kevin Facebook seems to be trying to figure out how to take all that traffic and turn it into money... unlike ost companies who know how to make money and are trying to get traffic..... what does that say?
- Matthew Voshell
@clive I tried graph search... it "works" but I never use it...
- Matthew Voshell
Hey all
- Christian Burns
from Android
Name the show? "Pooping in Public"?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Too early to tell Tina! Needs to ripen a bit. ;)
- Alex de Soto
Keith, I also had an internet cafe in the same time period with CU-SeeMe in SoCal
- Jerry Schuman
Segway came up against the same type of regulatory scrutiny that glass will.
- Jerry Schuman
yes Alex but Pooping inPublic is a contender already
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Scoble is spot on
- Christian Burns
"Walked outside with Google Glass for the first time. Stepped in dog poop almost immediately. Pretty sure this is what the future is like." Aaron Gotwalt
- Kevin Marks
I would rather have a google watch,
- Christian Burns
I dont want my kids to grow up using glass
- Christian Burns
You will be assimulated
- Kevin Marks
@Kevin hahahahaha
- Matthew Voshell
Jerry - Awesome
- Keith Teare
Just proves how old we are ;-)
- Jerry Schuman
so looking forward to Glass, my neck hurts having to constantly look down at my phone
- Da
Because kids dont have enough access to video games..
- Christian Burns
@Matthew Google search became terribly boring, link results too predictable or gamed. Graph Search much more interesting. FB engineering paper explains why.
- clive boulton
The issue is CPU speed vs. battery life.
- Murray Macdonald
That thing looks fragil. Think I might break it quickly
- Tina Chase Gillmor
"There is no Moore’s Law for batteries."
- Alex de Soto
Vuzix M-100 is $499 and it has better CPU specs. http://www.vuzix.com/consume...
- Murray Macdonald
stopgap battery measure - mini usb plug to a usb external battery
- Da
Playing Ice Hockey with Google Glass http://youtu.be/Md1rfj0mhEs
- Nir Ben Yona
@Da They might need to figure out how to cool the CPU when Glass is attached to an external battery.
- Alex de Soto
You can't write local apps... My understanding is all 3rd party apps are in the cloud. Is that not true? Can you install a local app?
- Murray Macdonald
you need to hack it to write local apps yes
- Kevin Marks
the Mirror API is all cloud
- Kevin Marks
It occurs to me that the feedback from wearing this device is where the real product is going to come from.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Vuzix allows real local apps on the device...
- Murray Macdonald
Glass camera should recognize a limited set of gestures but ignore others, like fly swats for example.
- Alex de Soto
The fact it works at all is awesome. Main discussion is, is it ready?
- Keith Teare
And is it the right way to incorporate computing into the person
- Keith Teare
what I mean is that the things people discover in using the early product will create main features and dictate what this product looks and feels like eventually. Might be a "duh" statement but real important here
- Tina Chase Gillmor
so as good as google voice recognition on android
- Christian Burns
agree Tina
- Christian Burns
That was excellent speech recognition. Say "period" to end a sentence.
- Murray Macdonald
better than Siri then?
- Kevin Marks
Because of context....
- Murray Macdonald
Kevin, different than Siri.
- Robert Scoble
Glass is just like every other Google "product". Nothing more then another input to their global information AI. It will go the way of Reader as soon as it's signal to noise ratio is bad.
- Jerry Schuman
virtual keyboard floating in front of you? plenty of times when i don't want to talk out loud
- Da
I almost never want to talk out loud to a gadget
- Kevin Marks
Kevin: this slide shows that both Siri and Google sucks: https://plus.google.com/photos...
- Robert Scoble
The camera belongs on the head. You can't easily turn your chest...
- Murray Macdonald
Kevin: you will with this one. You can control it with your finger too.
- Robert Scoble
Oh, now I understand that the Star Trek uniforms are more due to the technology built in and less to do with military/government
- Tina Chase Gillmor
AirPlay? You mean Wifi Direct? The last thing we need is a proprietary standard when open standards exist.
- Murray Macdonald
that didn't work as a link robert
- Kevin Marks
like wifi direct, but functionally limited
- Keith Teare
airplay currently better
- Keith Teare
took me to my instant uploads
- Kevin Marks
Better how? AirPlay is limited... As a developer Wifi Direct will do what you want...
- Murray Macdonald
google can start to look for your face and see what you are looking at,
- Christian Burns
Same goes for humans... Try being named Macdonald, not McDonald. 90% human failure.
- Murray Macdonald
"Send full info to my living room Google TV" would be cool. Or to AirPlay....
- Alex de Soto
Screen sharing
- Tina Chase Gillmor
google manages both MacDonald and McDonald
- Kevin Marks
the golden arches and the golden archs
- Matthew Voshell
WiFi direct is capable of much more than screens; any p2p communications between apps. If the eyepiece, camera, phone and such are going to collaborate together, you need much more than screen sharing. You need an open p2p API
- Murray Macdonald
i want multiple windows on my Glass. no external, multiple physical screens wanted
- Da
Google not tuning for personal nuances opens up for competition
- clive boulton
They are also using the SnowCrash paradigm
- Christian Burns
Doesnt that one samsung device allow multiple screens? on a phone? seems stupid
- Matthew Voshell
keith getting noisy again
- Kevin Marks
multiple screens on an iPad would eb more sensible than 3/4 of the screen being black
- Kevin Marks
dual windows on the Galaxy Note 2 is awesome
- Da
Bluetooth is too slow, unless it uses wifi. Wifi direct is all that and more... AirPlay is the new FaceTime. A proprietary flavor of a generic ability.
- Murray Macdonald
GoogleWave
- Murray Macdonald
I got Steve Hill Mall
- Kevin Marks
Google is working on an open alternative to Airplay that will also integrate with DLNA http://gigaom.com/2012...
- Mark Krynsky
Xbox IllumiRoom Project http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Da
It's called WifiDirect. Samsung phones share photos and videos...
- Murray Macdonald
That blackberry screen sharing was cool; google hang out has it too...
- Matthew Voshell
Reflector is pretty cool.
- Alex de Soto
Just played with the Blackberry Z10 the other week. Awesome device (comes from an iphone fan).
- Nir Ben Yona
@Nir.... i feel the same way... so sad
- Matthew Voshell
@Matthew: I hope to see a real change by the summer. Whether it's a new iphone device or a completely revamped iOS 7 platform
- Nir Ben Yona
Anyone also see the parallel to the novel Deamon and Freedom TM?
- Christian Burns
switch the camera back keith
- Steve Gillmor
I'd rather have a device I can write local computer vision application on... Everything in the cloud is going to make everything latent. The problem is battery life...
- Murray Macdonald
Arrington is playing Dots I see
- Kevin Marks
"They" should get out of the way. Writing filters should be open to the 3rd party market. Notifications and "page rank" are proprietary solutions the 3rd party market can't innovate on. Let others write filters....
- Murray Macdonald
Kevin's birdies sing pretty songs
- Tina Chase Gillmor
OK time to name the show
- Tina Chase Gillmor
What's this Close Friends trick? Is there a blog post about it?
- Evan Prodromou
@Nir yea, Sir Jonny is hard at work, rumors point at a simplier design (ala google) and more continuty across softeware and hardware.... idk, i'm excited i think he's a visionary
- Matthew Voshell
When's the next show?
- Murray Macdonald
if you mark someone a close friend, you get notifications of all their posts
- Kevin Marks
I'm ready for $200!!
- Da
Jean Luc Picard Proticals
- Christian Burns
Earl Grey Tea, Hot
- Kevin Marks
Ok, Glass, Earl Gray Tea hot
- Christian Burns
Why can't his computer remember the prefs? Enterprise software.
- Kevin Marks
I want my air screen
- Tina Chase Gillmor
No third party apps
- Christian Burns
Everyone on this show already wears something... Glasses are pretty common.
- Murray Macdonald
thats a fashion thing too though. At one point contact lenses were taking over
- Kevin Marks
When's the next show?
- Murray Macdonald
@Matthew He definitely is.
- Nir Ben Yona
Friday at 1pm Pacific
- Christian Burns
YESSSS.... this should be be so easier if you did a Hangout On--Air... then robert should broadcast what he sees!
- Matthew Voshell
If there every is going to even be another show
- Christian Burns
good
- siddharth
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countdown
- Christian Burns
Here
- Keith Teare
Also here :)
- Ludwig Ederle
Helloooo GG peeps!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Are you already up and running?
- Ludwig Ederle
I'm here
- Kevin Marks
Stepping away. family walk. Got to get sunshine when you can.
- Christian Burns
we will start momentarily.... please stand by
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'm here
- Ludwig Ederle
1
- Christian Burns
They do it to deal with crooked cops.
- Murray Macdonald
I'm seeing tweets about this
- Kevin Marks
am I too late ?
- Euro Maestro
what's the app?
- Kevin Marks
The second meteor video was like a drone strike.
- Aron Michalski
Tempo
- Christian Burns
CC is suing HP for $500k for damages
- Murray Macdonald
Google now will be better one day.
- Christian Burns
Google when? ;-)
- Aron Michalski
we're on TechCrunch.... please post to Twitter and FB and invite your friends and colleagues ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
like Zime?
- Kevin Marks
facebook get away with it
- Murray Macdonald
no pants
- Ludwig Ederle
Google now has no value to me
- Ludwig Ederle
only if you use a cloud email provider.
- Murray Macdonald
easier
- Frank Paynter
They can't get into my exchange server... Legally...
- Murray Macdonald
yes they can
- Frank Paynter
don't quibble
- Frank Paynter
In Canada? Send in the drones.
- Murray Macdonald
Second meteor vid... http://youtu.be/b0cRHsApzt8
- Aron Michalski
Yeah, but imaging trying to process that much data.
- Murray Macdonald
Keep your email password. Set up a forwarding rule to a mail list.
- Murray Macdonald
Using Wi-Fi from russian mission diplomatic compound, aka "zhildom"
- clive boulton
Those crows work for Google...
- Aron Michalski
they can read six month-old email without even a subpoena
- Kevin Marks
one of the crows has 3 eyes
- Kevin Marks
Kevin... WHAT?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
That's just an environment mutation.
- Murray Macdonald
Game of Thrones reference
- Kevin Marks
It's a HD implant.
- Aron Michalski
email works because of the open standards. The clients can be anything that layer on top of it.
- Michael Roberts
Are we talking about federated networks?
- Evan Prodromou
smoked spam...
- Frank Paynter
Kevin... ahhh
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Digital Kolaches..
- Aron Michalski
Spam assassin virtually eliminates spam. Filters sweep away my bacon to desired folders.
- Murray Macdonald
JP reports swapping to open email ....http://stoweboyd.com/post...
- clive boulton
banger mail
- Frank Paynter
this missing component has been and always will be federated presence and discovery.
- Jerry Schuman
First FU of the show
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Email works because it sits at the intersection of short social messages and writing longer stories.
- Kevin Costain
today
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Email allows images and text.
- Murray Macdonald
Email is amazing!
- Kevin Costain
Track is the filter killer.
- Aron Michalski
I love when Gillmor Gang becomes the Troll Scoble show.
- Evan Prodromou
Tempo is currently not allowing new accounts :(
- Ludwig Ederle
No CC, No BCC, Open email is the @ mention message bus.
- clive boulton
How someone contacts me shouldn't be based on a service. It should be determined based on commonality of options available and least cost and expediency to delivery.
- Jerry Schuman
Don't direct messages deserve to be one person only?
- Aron Michalski
Email is kinda like the canvas. Its lets people and companies build on top on it. like google does with its spam filters, or labels or just about whatever you can imagine. no one company owns the protocols and they are widely adopted. As you can see with Twitter, as soon as they feel threatened they reduce the ability to share. email is just a protocol.
- Michael Roberts
I've been on his low quality list ever since I was told I was a normal person.
- Aron Michalski
So what's actually new?
- Ludwig Ederle
not insane
- Tina Chase Gillmor
did he say Ann Romney was better for his needs?
- Kevin Marks
I think so, yes
- Ludwig Ederle
Them's fightin' words Kevin...
- Aron Michalski
Aron! lol
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Microsoft screwed up Yammer layoff -- knock me over w/ a feather http://www.businessinsider.com/microso...
- clive boulton
Mail Strum? It's all imported to his guitar?
- Aron Michalski
but who'd buy it?
- Kevin Marks
He will if it's new and shiny.
- Aron Michalski
Email is the standard... What is needed is an email tagging standard to facilitate improved filtering.
- Murray Macdonald
iMessage is pointing the way in some instances... but still long way to go.
- Jerry Schuman
What percentage of the people watching this show are on mobile?
- Murray Macdonald
iPod Nano?
- Evan Prodromou
What percentage of the show participants are doing it using facetime?
- Murray Macdonald
we use Skype.
- Robert Scoble
an iPad mini taped to each finger...
- Aron Michalski
mobile?
- Murray Macdonald
how do you screw up a layoff. Dont lay people off?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Lay them off but forget to tell them (let the press do the tell]
- clive boulton
I use FaceTime more and more for personal stuff and Skype for business stuff, and sometimes google hangout for business.
- Michael Roberts
Clive... OMG
- Tina Chase Gillmor
PC gamers hate consoles... Console gamers hate PCs.
- Murray Macdonald
Meteor stuff - http://beta.just.me/convers...
- Keith Teare
I liked the story of the guy that was laid off but continued to work in different offices around the campus while he worked on launching his new startup.
- Jerry Schuman
HBO GO now has AirPlay
- Jerry Schuman
Jerry do you have the link?
- Michael Roberts
I can find the link.
- Jerry Schuman
I think it's more than just about gaming but the battle for our TV's. Gaming is just one aspect. I bought an Ouya and I wrote about the Android angle on this phenomenon http://krynsky.com/android... In MG's post he also poses that Android / Ouya may be a contender
- Mark Krynsky
It's not as good as the BBC show it's ripped from
- Frank Paynter
Why are you so excited about the hbo go airplay?
- Ludwig Ederle
Android 4.2.2 which I got yesterday for my Nexus 4 introduce "Wireless Display" (via Wifi Direct)
- Murray Macdonald
+1 Frank, prefer it as well.
- Aron Michalski
It takes a BIG Netflix to make a House of Cards. Definitely not a startup product.
- Kurtiss Hare
Tablets will drive the TV as a second display. Games will use the TV for the major display and the tablet/phone as the processor / controller.
- Murray Macdonald
Android (through Google TV) already has exposed the Google app marketplace to STB's on our TV's. It's beyond me why Apple hasn't done the same. They're giving Google way too much time to perfect and gain usage there.
- Mark Krynsky
book>bbc>stalled cruise ship w/sewage>usa
- mal
Intel managed to have a reorg and forgot to tell one engineer where to plug back in. 12 months later, he was till at home
- clive boulton
how do you trigger that, murray?
- Kevin Marks
Apple is looking at Google as if it was a monkey that could never put together the gun, and all of a sudden Google is shooting with it...
- Ludwig Ederle
It's in the android settings, under display.
- Murray Macdonald
Developers at AnDevCon were all talking about secondary (remote) displays and OpenGL ES
- Murray Macdonald
How many House of Cards can Netflix afford to make?
- Evan Prodromou
مشاهدة مباراة برشلونه وغرناطه اليوم 16-2-2013 بث مباشر http://webs4.blogspot.com/2013... Watch Match FC Barcelona vs Granada today16/2/2013 LIVE
- gharip
House of Cards makes me subscribe ot Netflix, so the better can afford more
- Ludwig Ederle
There's a Lillehammer for every House of Cards...
- Aron Michalski
I watch hours of youtube today. It's a great source of knowledge.
- Murray Macdonald
Even if they can become an AMC, is that enough to make this work?
- Evan Prodromou
Understanding Hollywood..
- Kurtiss Hare
You Americans have such a great movie business but so crappy TV infrastructure...
- Ludwig Ederle
I think second screen device is in the GoogleTV roadmap (meaning in the Android roadmap)
- clive boulton
I recently bought this awesome device http://www.geekbuying.com/item... which turns my TV into an full Android device. Video demo here: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Mark Krynsky
I added a Raspberry Pi to my TV... $35
- Murray Macdonald
Or even an HBO (much less likely). I don't know if they can singlehandledly change the game they're in as content creators.
- Evan Prodromou
Netflix appears to be doubling down on original content after HoC, for what that's worth.
- Kurtiss Hare
Will Netflix release DVDs? That's an interesting (new) media lockin.
- Kurtiss Hare
Raspberri Pi is nice hardware Murray but not as functional for a TV to have an Android OS device and the Google Play app store at your fingertips.
- Mark Krynsky
Geddy, Yammer's node goodness still on git [Microsoft pls don't mess up] http://geddyjs.org/
- clive boulton
It is based on a British series, right?
- christina sponselli
I have the original House of Cards on DVD
- Kevin Marks
yes, they're on Netflix too
- Kevin Marks
Right...
- Frank Paynter
Snakes in the grass in Silicon Valley... say it isn't so.
- Jerry Schuman
@Kevin, I heard that's a real classic.
- Kurtiss Hare
The original is brilliant...
- Hilary Talbot
Same snakes, different grass!
- Kurtiss Hare
I agree with John. I think binge viewing is growing.
- Michael Roberts
Mark: Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch... XBMC on Raspberry Pi
- Murray Macdonald
Here's what my brother-in-law says about our tv watching today http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment...
- Tina Chase Gillmor
is house of cards in iTunes?
- Ludwig Ederle
I kind of agree w/Robert. Youtube has that UGC, viral niche thing
- Laura Norvig
Silicon Valley is the most incestuous inbreeding industry around. And after they have sex with each other they eat the weak.
- Jerry Schuman
Murray...XBMC and Plex are native apps available for Android too.
- Mark Krynsky
@Ludwig, what is this iTunes to which you refer?
- Frank Paynter
Interesting that no-one is picking up Steve's theme about the themes of the show reflecting in the tech industry.
- Hilary Talbot
:)
- Ludwig Ederle
@Jerry, Why do I get invited to all the wrong parties?
- Kurtiss Hare
P2P. Web Sockets change all that....
- Murray Macdonald
Hopefully not literally disrupting the events.
- Evan Prodromou
Niantic Labs is Google's foray into entertainment. Just wait
- Jerry Schuman
Everybody has a job to keep...
- Aron Michalski
why do they leave out the opportunity to sell the show on iTunes=
- Ludwig Ederle
@Keith, Why aren't they doing it then?
- Kurtiss Hare
-=+?
- Ludwig Ederle
The amount of back story about Ingress is impressive. Google can tell a story
- Jerry Schuman
Perhaps that's the reason, Aron
- Hilary Talbot
Web Sockets will allow people to stream without a middleman. Content sharing is going to explode.
- Murray Macdonald
What is Comcast doing?
- Kurtiss Hare
MLB has their own branded app for following games, but doesn't include live footage. Instead, it is an animation of the pitches.
- christina sponselli
Only in the US... Content licensing is per country. I can't watch the majority of these things in Canada let alone the rest of the world...
- Murray Macdonald
our camera is moving around , adjusting itself unnecessarily
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Comcast spun off TunerFish and the CEO is ex Silicon Graphics
- Jerry Schuman
don't even want to think about all the work arounds to watch this stuff in Europe
- Ludwig Ederle
They are securing the rights to 5% of the global market.
- Murray Macdonald
Actually John McCrae left Tunerfish recently but Comcast is still very active in new technologies
- Jerry Schuman
Netflix *raised* cash to do this.
- Kurtiss Hare
Do young people watch HoC? Do kids watch TV?
- Murray Macdonald
If video over IP gets that big, we'll find a way.
- Evan Prodromou
If there's $$$ involved, people will find a way to fill that gap.
- Evan Prodromou
Damn NYPL closes 5pm -- now sitting outside
- clive boulton
Kids watch YouTube @Murray
- Ludwig Ederle
kids watch tv less but also changing their habits - binge watching
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I remember when people said real audio was going to take down the internet, and that video streaming wasn't even possible. HD won't be an issue.
- Michael Roberts
The bad news for the producers is, that there are no commercials showing up any more
- Ludwig Ederle
Just bought 10 gb switches... Network infrastructure is growing.
- Murray Macdonald
Google Hangouts + Hangouts on Air... they only need PRIVATE HOA to take over.
- Jerry Schuman
I refuse to hear about GoT
- Kurtiss Hare
didn't you talk about that apple thing last week or the week before?
- Laura Norvig
Agreed, why no PRIVATE HOA?
- clive boulton
do you like the Citizen EcoDrive @Robert?
- Frank Paynter
At least Scoble is evolving with the market. Apple is asleep at the switch. Their next product is a phablet? Big deal.
- Murray Macdonald
I'm an Apple fanboy but I'm impressed with the Nexus 4, its interface and magnetic charger which just arrived. I have not even installed a SIM card and cellular service yet!
- Alex de Soto
buh-bye Apple... hello Samsung
- Frank Paynter
I'm working on a Private HOA service for enterprise right now.
- Jerry Schuman
Good design is not good enough. Good enough is good design.
- clive boulton
going over the freaky line...
- christina sponselli
Apple haven't even released the API for good speech synthesis on iOS... Android is outclassing them on most sides, BT low energy being one deficiency.
- Murray Macdonald
sexy design is still very important
- Ludwig Ederle
Hasn't Apple kind of always delivered on the undelivered dream of yesterday? In a way... How long did we have smart phone browsers before we got one that worked?
- Kurtiss Hare
My Macbook running cooler in the snow.
- clive boulton
there were tablets before, but apple added great design and made a business out of it...
- Ludwig Ederle
Back Waters? I don't think Google knows either.. :) http://goo.gl/maps/mYVRt
- Kevin Costain
and there were smartphones long before the iphona
- Ludwig Ederle
"Tonight on The Californians..."
- Aron Michalski
WAZE rocks
- Jerry Schuman
I think John said it right before. Its the ebb and flow. Google might be doing well today, tomorrow Apple will come out with something else.
- Michael Roberts
Why hasn't apple bought waze?
- Murray Macdonald
Google Earth on the Nexus 4 is AMAZING. It's liquid.
- Murray Macdonald
why doesn't apple just release os/x to all computers? guess they don't need anymore cash
- mal
For navigation I use NAVIGON on iOS. Don't trust the other maps yet.
- Alex de Soto
How many sucks was that?
- Aron Michalski
I'm plenty dense, thank you
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Isn't the question of density also just a question of money?
- Kurtiss Hare
that density will need to be filtered
- Jerome Hughes
One point about switching to Android away from iphone. I hear the argument about the investment in apps. If one has an iPad then you don't lose the use of your apps.
- Michael Roberts
apple's secret agenda is to take you where you *should* go, not where you *want* to go?
- Laura Norvig
They're not innovating... They're the new HP.
- Murray Macdonald
Apple has 130 billion cash right now
- Jerry Schuman
@Laura :)
- Ludwig Ederle
is Kevin still there?
- Ludwig Ederle
They have a great brainwashed user base.
- Murray Macdonald
Integration is part of design in the industrial sense. Right Robert.
- Alex de Soto
He's gonna implode...
- Aron Michalski
he's gonna blow!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
@Jerry, that's treasury cash, actual asset, as opposed to market cap?
- Frank Paynter
the Experience is designed
- Kurtiss Hare
Whoa, Robert is super excited today.
- Kevin Costain
Let's not forget their technology advances... Apple has led the way on almost everything
- Jerry Schuman
And who designed Robert?
- Alex de Soto
They have? Like what?
- Murray Macdonald
AppleTalk, FireWire, NuBus, and on and on and on..
- Jerry Schuman
CRUNCH CRUNCH CRUNCH
- Evan Prodromou
Apple has one of the largest IP portfolios on the planet
- Jerry Schuman
so do you have to be both hardware and software moving forward?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
not necessarily, no
- Kevin Marks
the age of context will be delayed for years by governments due to privacy concerns, so what the heck?
- Ludwig Ederle
Wait until Apple can access your vitals with the iWatch.
- Alex de Soto
Apple's cloud services suck
- Kevin Costain
That's not true... New Androids have GPUs. Everyone does things in hardware. They abandon their old devices, like PowerPC, and iPhone3, etc... The 3GS will get dropped soon.
- Murray Macdonald
Androids do have GPUs, but Apple's AV chain is good work
- Kevin Marks
Specialized chip.
- Kurtiss Hare
so that's apple's strength
- Ludwig Ederle
Jankie
- clive boulton
Video Compression is done via GPU.
- Murray Macdonald
i want hugh macleod's font in google fonts
- mal
Apple also has momentum. Steve is right about services and Keith. As well I think Apple will innovate more on software in the coming months. Its just people have come to expect incredible hardware innovation from Apple, but I agree Apple will optimize more on its software working with its hardware, and sometimes that isn't immediately visible to everyone the way a new hardware product like the iphone might be.
- Michael Roberts
It's the fragmentation of Android hardware. They have various GPUs in different devices. You have to write to the various GPUs.
- Murray Macdonald
Apple has one, Android hundreds, "choice" or "fragmentation"
- Ludwig Ederle
Kara Swisher - negotiating in public? http://www.reuters.com/article...
- Keith Teare
RenderScript on Android devices harnesses and standardizes Android GPU. The problem is the low end Android phones without a GPU
- Murray Macdonald
Does that mean that 'open' ultimately wins?
- Michael Roberts
I did some video stuff on android a couple fo years ago and it was very variable
- Kevin Marks
time to learn CUDA...
- clive boulton
apple will eventually find a Jobs 2.0
- mal
Michael I think open will be market share and innovation leader.
- Robert Scoble
Glad Steve didn't let it go :)
- Hilary Talbot
CUDA isn't going to fly on mobile. Apple will go closed/proprietary and android is committed to RenderScript.
- Murray Macdonald
Suspense!
- Kurtiss Hare
Tim Cook?
- Alex de Soto
Hilary :-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Peter Thiel
- Kevin Marks
:)
- Hilary Talbot
My guess is that the inherent way that Apple controls OS (and perhaps direct sensors) access may limit it to compete with the features other mobile devices will be able to utilize for Robert's "contextual" or quantified self and digital health features that will be coming.
- Mark Krynsky
Peter Thiel = Steve 2.0?
- Ludwig Ederle
I've been reading the Game of Thrones sequel books so I can spoil that too
- Kevin Marks
They both are holding us by the pubes until push notifications are open.
- Murray Macdonald
i have to drop in 5 mins
- Keith Teare
microsoft is on the cusp of the toilet
- studentforce
OK Keith... I let Steve Know
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Robert: but Apple isn't all that open, but makes a lot of money.
- Michael Roberts
Open software with a few closed critical services... Like push notifications.
- Murray Macdonald
That is true!
- Robert Scoble
Posterous announces their demise.
- Jerry Schuman
i don't think Microsoft is that bad, just need a new leadership team
- clive boulton
A little tussle between non-literal and literal understandings going on
- Hilary Talbot
Especially new CEO
- clive boulton
Think from a 4 or 5 guys perspective.
- Aron Michalski
its john taschek !!
- studentforce
The polis
- Kurtiss Hare
Maybe it's Kevin Spacey. Maybe he's that good!
- Evan Prodromou
Our contextual data will be lifted from it's current owners by various data mining technologies. It's hard to prove how I know what I know about you.
- Murray Macdonald
IIRC in the original HoC it is a machiovellian character, rather than situation of both parties being in together, although element of that too.
- Hilary Talbot
How does he feel about supporting Romney?
- Murray Macdonald
My left hand warmed by my macbook battery, my right hand freezing
- clive boulton
Google to open stores? http://9to5google.com/2013...
- Kevin Marks
In the Bronx, anything to get a good internet connection to watch the GG live
- clive boulton
If there is anyone else, Apple could probably buy them.
- Michael Roberts
Michael: well, did Apple buy Waze to fix its maps? No. Hmmm.
- Robert Scoble
I think it's Hixie
- Kevin Marks
Thanks everyone.
- Murray Macdonald
Drinks all around, put them on Roberts tab
- Jerry Schuman
Good show. Peace.
- Kurtiss Hare
Thanks for joining us!
- Robert Scoble
Jerry: at the Ritz tonight where the sunset is gonna rock!
- Robert Scoble
And thanks to Tina...goodbye all. Have a great weekend.
- Mark Krynsky
Have a great weekend, people of the internet
- Ludwig Ederle
Robert: Good point. Apple is a smart company however. I don't expect them to go into a innovation drought for long, but yes, they have a poor record on social IMHO and they should be get aggressive on contextual now. Waze would have been a good move for them I agree.
- Michael Roberts
Great show Steve, Tina, and the Gillmor Gang. I'm impressed this show continues to retain its quality of discussion and guests.
- Michael Roberts
hola
- andrea beatriz lezcano
Apple vs. Google::Shiites vs. Sunis
- Tom Guarriello
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Potential Topics? Amazon tablets. Motorola phones. Nokia phones. Apple next week. Techcrunch Disrupt next week. I'm also now addicted to Breaking Bad. Since last week's show I've watched three seasons of it.
- Robert Scoble
Good Lord that's a lot of Breaking Bad in a short amount of time. Please lay off the blue crystals
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Breaking Bad is awesome
- Christopher Harris
I stopped watching Breaking Bad. Got to depressing for my taste.
- Johannes Siemers
On netflix, it just keeps on comping episode after episode...
- Kevin Marks
Breaking Bad is very depressing, but I got addicted. Robert, I watched all four previous seasons this summer.
- Francine Hardaway
did somebody say "blue crystals"? ;)
- Susan Beebe
Clinton knocked it out o the park.
- Francine Hardaway
My feed froze
- Francine Hardaway
and then thawed
- Jerome Hughes
Crystal Blue Persuasion...
- Jerry Schuman
:)
- Susan Beebe
can't find where I left the Kindle Fire...
- Kevin Marks
everyone's stream ok?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Of course, All The New Kindle Fires Will Have Ads That You Can't Get Rid Of. Didn't really want to talk much about that, did they?
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
oh my God Danny is not stopping for air
- Tina Chase Gillmor
one of the first attack vectors for the hackers... multiple user accounts.
- Jerry Schuman
can I run Google Music on the new kindles?
- Kevin Marks
HDMI out... how fun.
- Jerry Schuman
Tina, Danny must have had some awesome espresso today! :)
- Susan Beebe
Danny is on fire today :)
- Charlie Isaacs
Breaking Bad fans. Do you listen to the BB Insider Podcast?
- Tom Guarriello
Danny is on fireHD today
- Jerry Schuman
Kevin: Rooted yes.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
its the new blow
- Tina Chase Gillmor
A book on Revolver? Gotta get that title.
- Tom Guarriello
Bring on the Punditry! :D
- Susan Beebe
Pundintry? Pedantry?
- Kevin Marks
Amazon bang?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
ha! Kevin!
- Susan Beebe
Yes, Jerry, something about thinking alike :)
- Charlie Isaacs
weird snatches of sound coming through
- Kevin Marks
skype is so lame sometimes haha
- Susan Beebe
LOL. Someone is chewing a robot or something.
- Nir Ben Yona
you're making him very angry
- Jerome Hughes
danny is frozen! lol
- Susan Beebe
auto tune
- Charlie Isaacs
Back!
- Evan Prodromou
hi Evan
- Kevin Marks
Crappy internet connections in Newport Beach.
- Jerry Schuman
Danny fried his own feed
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Danny exceeded his bandwidth with his long monologue so now his service provider is throttling every 50th byte
- Charlie Isaacs
Don't Google and Amazon threaten both Microsoft and Apple, because they can give both Software and Hardware away, at least eventually?
- Stephen Pickering
Hi Kevin!
- Evan Prodromou
I like 'pundit tree"
- Tina Chase Gillmor
they made the browser free
- Kevin Marks
and IIS
- Kevin Marks
Kevin is throwing back champagne today. Real lush that guy is
- Tina Chase Gillmor
It was iced water, but it melted
- Kevin Marks
They made the browser free to kill Netscape, but now Google and the Cloud can give the software away and kill MSFT
- Stephen Pickering
You mean Wordstar
- Charlie Isaacs
This is like a visit to the museum.
- Evan Prodromou
My wife, to this day, calls MS Word "Wordstar" :)
- Charlie Isaacs
Robert - to make GG live @ http://www.siliconvalley-codecamp.com/ - I will call u after GG today.
- clive boulton
Hell my LaserWriter cost me a few grand.
- Jerry Schuman
WordPerfect!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'm using the Ringo glass today
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Assume MSFT pulls off the Kobayashi Maru -- where does this leave Intel -- failed low power processor family?
- clive boulton
Microsoft could charge "mob rate" pricing for four reasons: (1) It was a software suite; (2) They were usually bundled with computers so they offered a "solution" or "system"; (3) The software "spoke" to one another; and (4) There was some stability so businesses trusted it.
- Chien-Yu Lin
Convertibles
- Jerry Schuman
I think Bezos had it right. People care about services not just gadgets.
- Alex de Soto
I love the Amazon apps store. I gave my wife a Kindle Fire and she hated it. She wanted the iPad apps. I told her to "find them on Amazon" but 90% of the stuff she wanted did not work on the Kindle Fire.
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
well, he's selling services, of course he says that. Apple will say they like devices
- Kevin Marks
@Scoble: Is this more about "PC's dying" or "PC sales saturating and tablet purchases increasing"?
- Chien-Yu Lin
So far, Apple has better "services" in the form of their apps and their licensed content.
- Alex de Soto
not so much the books, Alex
- Kevin Marks
Same "mob rate" rational pricing for pizza boxes and garbage collection in NY/NJ - no choice monopoly
- clive boulton
I travel with my iPad + Logitech Ultrathin keyboard -- holds power for > 8 hr. flight, fits on Coach tray table while the guy in front me drops his seat
- Charlie Isaacs
Right you are Kevin about the books. I mostly read them on a Kindle and will be getting the Paperwhite.
- Alex de Soto
Is malware a problem for Amazon apps?
- christina sponselli
I want to get the Kindle Fire HD to play the movies from the Amazon Prime movies via their HD output to my HD TV (but them again, my Roku does that already, but not when Im waiting at my doctors office, etc) @SocialJulio
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
Hello everyone. so glad you all showed up today
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Hi Tina :)
- Hilary Talbot
Can Microsoft make money with a no-cost tablet operating system? Apple can, and Google can. Amazon can. I think they're selling something everyone's getting for free.
- Evan Prodromou
Hi Tina. Hope you are still enjoying your roses.
- christina sponselli
your doctor lets you plug your tablet into his tv?
- Kevin Marks
Navy Seals aren't using spreadsheets, composing large Word files, long e-mails (= Office). They are looking at pictures, maps, terrains, videos (= Tablet).
- Chien-Yu Lin
"Don't stand out in Kandahar" (Robert said that?)
- clive boulton
My wife is the Creative Director for the Western US of the top app developer. Trust me... nobody is asking for Microsoft or Fire
- Jerry Schuman
I am loving the beautiful roses. All 21!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Navy Seals are writing books about Osama Bin Laden's last day on their iPads
- Charlie Isaacs
Hi Tina. Guess what? I'm a vegan now
- Francine Hardaway
The Samsung Galaxy SIII was developed before Jelly Bean. Will be out soon.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
After Gazelle, iPhone5 should end up costing me about $50. A little irrational, but not too much.
- Tom Guarriello
@Kevin, my dr has wifi and I will have stuff to watch while I wait on my Kindle Fire HD. Better than on my phone, etc
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
clive: yeah. Navy Seals told me that when you are overseas there are a TON of Apple devices in local coffee shops.
- Robert Scoble
I have a Samsung Galaxy S III and I love it!
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
(Resigned sigh) Can't I wait until Apple announces on Wednesday before ordering my Kindle Fire? Or will I then lose my Early Adopter button?
- Francine Hardaway
Jerry, your wife is a freaking dynamo. I want to be her when I grow up. Any cool new art pieces?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
@Clive @Scoble: One book written is not a trend. American in Middle East stands out already. Tablet does not make them camo'ed.
- Chien-Yu Lin
Steve, what would it need to have?
- Francine Hardaway
@@ bet the Taliban still runs Windows (XP)
- clive boulton
What will Steve do if Apple ships a Mini Pad?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
+1 Chien-Yu-Lin
- Francine Hardaway
My take-away from this: Steve has a big pocket
- Charlie Isaacs
She's been swamped with apps.. not a chance she's been in the studio. Though she's been talking about getting back out there.
- Jerry Schuman
the nexus fits in my jeans back pocket
- Kevin Marks
Hey Tina: This will crack Steve up: "Here Comes el Son: Songs of the Beatles With a Cuban Twist by Various Artists" http://itunes.apple.com/us...
- Alex de Soto
@Clive: Taliban using DOS
- Chien-Yu Lin
A reliable source told me that AirForce One runs XP
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
there was never a netbook market
- Jerry Schuman
Good thing I just bought a bigger purse. Will be carrying a Nexus, a Kindle, an iPad -- and no more Air
- Francine Hardaway
Right, Jerry
- Francine Hardaway
the Air was the netbook
- Kevin Marks
like the ipad was the tablet
- Kevin Marks
at my first company we provided and installed PDP11's in Air Force ONe
- Charlie Isaacs
Netbooks were the play things of alpha geeks. Mostly to make hackintoshs
- Jerry Schuman
@Chien-Yu Lin Taliban's haz Internets (bastards)
- clive boulton
lost the picture and sound
- studentforce
@Francine: Thanks. Could I contact you later about the AZ Entrepreneurs' conference?
- Chien-Yu Lin
I had to switch from the appleTV to the mac mini to get Breaking Bad watchable on the tv
- Kevin Marks
Season 2? Oh man, are you in for a roller coaster. Walt spirals into the abyss.
- Jerry Schuman
I show the stream working Studentforce
- Tina Chase Gillmor
i had to reload
- studentforce
I have that painting as well:-)
- Francine Hardaway
And now there's the Apple's rumored "Pandora-killer" which will likely only be IOS/iTunes only.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
too many platforms and devices
- studentforce
I think Bruce Willis want to sue Apple because he can't leave his content collection to his children after he's gone.
- Alex de Soto
on a tv via ipad
- Kevin Marks
Roku
- Stephen Pickering
What are you talking about.. I can read my books across devices... it's called DropBox
- Jerry Schuman
@Chien-Yu Lin of course. Watch this Scoble-esque gesture: 602.910.5622
- Francine Hardaway
Roku is great
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
or by a mac mini
- Kevin Marks
Makes no sense to me to buy books through Apple for that reason
- Tom Guarriello
Roku is awesome
- Stephen Pickering
I get my HBOgo via Roku
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
and my Amazon Prime movies via Roku
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
Is that what you did,. Kevin? I couldn't get Breaking Bad to Airplay.
- Francine Hardaway
Still like my Roku for non-Cable content.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I used the Mac Mini
- Kevin Marks
and the appletv
- Kevin Marks
No one is ever going to buy music again, that's why Apple is making the move into Pandora's space
- Stephen Pickering
Jerry, that's such a spoiler
- Francine Hardaway
I have a Mac Mini, so I will give that a try
- Francine Hardaway
I didn't give him a spoiler.... seriously
- Jerry Schuman
Enterasys Isaac
- studentforce
mac mini plugged into an hdtv is pretty good, though you have to use safari, not chrome for netflix
- Kevin Marks
internet of things
- studentforce
I guess I just thought so because I'm all caught up, Jerry
- Francine Hardaway
I buy my music from Amazon, and then I can add it to my Itunes library, Apple devices and android Devices.
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
Apple still locks in pretty well. Outside of 3rd party apps...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
on the train is where I want the tablet to work
- Kevin Marks
@John -- what is the razor for the enterprise (any chances)?
- clive boulton
With Spotify, I don't think I'll every buy digital music again. I may buy a Physical Vinyl record for the object quality and the novelty aspect
- Stephen Pickering
Crystal Blue Persuasion.... la la
- Jerry Schuman
Start All Over Again...Nat King Cole. la la
- Tom Guarriello
that is why we need a force.com app that will evoke digital context contextually
- studentforce
studentforce does that Scoble
- studentforce
Yeah, but if you add all of those services up, they're less than the total of my DISH bill
- Stephen Pickering
Kevin - Why can't the trains offer wi-fi? Would be productive on your NB San Jose - San francisco commute
- Tina Chase Gillmor
for eTextbooks .. its the holy grail
- studentforce
Nexus Fire, wasn't that in one of the Star Trek Movies ;-)
- Jerry Schuman
god yes, Tina. Instead they put it on the Stockton line o_O
- Kevin Marks
Amazon & Apple are in the best position to offer everything, music, tv, movies
- Stephen Pickering
Amazon's next step is original content
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
Robert just voiced my major gripe. Content is not centralized. The closest is Apple
- Francine Hardaway
I use the Verizon 4g to WiFi adaptor
- Kevin Marks
I have to give Logitech's UE (formerly Squeezebox) Internet Radio some props on making Audio sources pretty centralized. Makes a solid Roku experience for radio.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Kevin ~ Sounder (Seattle commute train) has wi-fi. Always my Goog Galaxy tab 10.1 out.
- clive boulton
Not true. Spotify is better on Android
- Stephen Pickering
there he goes
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Data vs. Logic
- Jerry Schuman
brace yourself for a Scoble explosion
- Tina Chase Gillmor
One problem with pulling together content from different apps is that it's hard to link them. Inter-app integration isn't as good as Web integration is.
- Evan Prodromou
What app is Scoble talking about?
- Tom Guarriello
If I were Microsoft, I'd drive the market this way: (1) Pair up with Dell (they've shown they have reach within business and will make devices cheaply, getting their money through service contracts and renewals); (2) Drive for a software suite that can be loaded into Tablets. Let's be honest: most people use less than 5% of all of the Word, Excel, PowerPoint functionality; (3) Establish...
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- Chien-Yu Lin
"Exsclobsion"
- Evan Prodromou
Steve smoking the peace pipe.
- clive boulton
A universal notification client sounds like a great idea. Don't think companies will allow it to happen though.
- Alex de Soto
The issue is DISCOVERY. DISCOVERY is facilitated primarily through word of mouth. IOS apps KILL Android apps when they're discussed from end users
- Jerry Schuman
so Scoble, why wouldn't companies aspire to make universal apps that seamlessly move from device to device while taking advantage of all of the best features of each device? That was Steve Jobs' vision from making universally easy products so that every app could work the same across their iPhone, and move to the iPad, etc. I agree with Steve, you and John are both right.
- Charlie Isaacs
You don't need Airplay with Netflix
- Stephen Pickering
guys ... in terms of eTextbooks (my focus) you are ALL WRONG
- studentforce
Browser, email, Netflix, Kindle, music player probably gets you pretty far
- Evan Prodromou
That's not true, Netflix's code and even UI is different on various platforms.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
@Francine Hardaway: Thanks. Will call.
- Chien-Yu Lin
Some high schools are adopting iPads. Grooming the next generation of consumers?
- christina sponselli
true, but some is shared via HTML
- Kevin Marks
yes
- studentforce
netflix on appletv is weakest, cos it isn't their code but Apple's
- Kevin Marks
Good show folks!
- Evan Prodromou
@Sponselli: 7" iPad is basically dusting off the Apple II marketing plan. Smaller hands, smaller devices. What will kids ask for come Christmas once they use it in schools?
- Chien-Yu Lin
Goofy is a horse
- Kevin Marks
Twitter killed everything except for OAuth
- Jerry Schuman
Twitter killed itself because I don't even look at it anymore. All I look at is Facebook
- Stephen Pickering
i need instagraming on retina display (G+ has antlers which cover head shine)
- clive boulton
@Chien-Yu Lin: Seeing the trend of kids from a mid-upper economic group jumping from Touch in jr high to iPad in high school.
- christina sponselli
including JSONP
- Jerry Schuman
This subject I know very well, Goofy is a doggy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Charlie Isaacs
But if Goofy is a dog, what is Pluto?
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
I'm very upset of the loss of RSS from Twitter.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I haven't tried to scrape twitters html recently, is it still crufty?
- Kevin Marks
And surprisingly, Dave Winer seems to be totally fine with killing RSS in Twitter
- Charlie Isaacs
but Twitter added a new widget
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
It will cause me to no longer track things like Scoble's Stared Favorites in Google Reader.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
and the widget pulls text, photos and videos
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
Anyone notice Twitter no longer using real-time follower notification (talk about going backwards)
- clive boulton
Twitter is moving to federation... you watch.
- Jerry Schuman
Thanks Evan. these guys are amazing. I still love to watch them joust. It's cool to fell the real time-ness of it, even for me.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Federated Twitter databases?
- clive boulton
@Sponselli: I'm kind of thinking that they would start more toward middle school. High school? I could get kids to buy a toothbrush that promotes tooth decay if I marketed it right.
- Chien-Yu Lin
I care almost nothing about Twitter anymore and everything about Facebook, which is exactly the opposite how I felt 2-3 years ago.
- Stephen Pickering
Does this gut some of Flipboard and Currents, or are they accessing Twitter elsewise?
- Denise Howell
'cos Dave Winer wants us to stop using twitter? (I don't know, he blocks me on twitter)
- Kevin Marks
Flipboard has to be nervous.
- Tom Guarriello
i think flipboard is using the rss feed, not sure though
- Kevin Marks
Winer blocks you, Kevin? That's flippin' hysterical!
- Tom Guarriello
Facebook machine learning algorithms failed for me. Zuck needs more data than I was willing to contribute.
- clive boulton
What happened??
- Tom Guarriello
Winer blocks everyone at some point
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Twitter <> monetization = pivot
- Jerry Schuman
+1 Tina and so are you :)
- Charlie Isaacs
Anybody else lose the show?
- Tom Guarriello
@Chien-Yu Lin: Distinction of wanting and getting. Some parents, including this one, consider the amount of screentime their kids get and the parent monitoring time required.
- christina sponselli
So a "universal" browser for all of this stuff is unlikely.
- Alex de Soto
I show the stream up tom
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I lost the feed momentarily Tom but it came back, I thought it was my connection
- Charlie Isaacs
I just reloaded bldg 43 and it came back. Weird!
- Tom Guarriello
Lost the connection, but a refresh brought it back.
- christina sponselli
hmm
- Tina Chase Gillmor
cant explain that
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I bet Dave Winer keeps saying that RSS Rulz!
- Nir Ben Yona
Nir - but of course
- Tina Chase Gillmor
@Sponselli: Sure. Just saying many kids will go to college and there will be a time when being competitive as a student + school requirements + social pressure / status will create a situation where a purchase will be made. Bonding is pretty powerful, regardless of usage frequency and duration.
- Chien-Yu Lin
@Robert, I can see some of your FB Favorites, via Incognito, not logged in
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
Sweet Charlie. Thanks
- Tina Chase Gillmor
You hit the nail on the head and it's exactly the market Twitter is going to go after...
- Jerry Schuman
thanks because chatter is a feature of the force.com platform
- studentforce
Video down again
- Tom Guarriello
Chien-Yu Lin: Agree
- christina sponselli
Burberry vs Bogart Trenchcoat row highlights minefield who owns content...http://goo.gl/EfbU5
- clive boulton
For Facebook, most are social loiterers who use the medium as a digital scrapbook and internet chatroom.
- Chien-Yu Lin
But since, storage, bandwidth and processing halve in price every 12 months, then something like App.net may be viable in 5 or so years
- Stephen Pickering
Refresh brings it back
- Tom Guarriello
Go check out SylkServer from AG Projects. SIP/XMPP with presence support. Just heard they're going to release in the OSX app store. Light this thing up behind the firewall and get a complete message bus for the enterprise that includes, voice, video and chat.
- Jerry Schuman
ADS ARE ANTITHETICAL TO TWITTER'S ETHOS Twitter is about real-time information with little-to-no self-editing time between information and Tweeting / re-Tweeting. This is why Twitter is used primarily as a newsfeed and the SARG (smart-ass remark generator). And there's the challenge: (1) How Can One Monetize News? We consciously understand - or intuitively know - that news, unless there...
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- Chien-Yu Lin
whoa
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Sorry ...
- Chien-Yu Lin
Lonest ever! ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
meant longest
- Tina Chase Gillmor
My thoughts exactly. Probably the longest post ever, during the Gillmor Gang show.
- Nir Ben Yona
Chien-Yu -- you forgot about Twitter as a "social megaphone for horrible customer service" -- expressing negative sentiment about brands. I would also add that people help each other solve problems on Twitter, and help each other accomplish things.
- Charlie Isaacs
Fast typist for sure or great speech recognition!
- Alex de Soto
Chien-Yu Lin - fantastic and provocative posts
- John Taschek
Awareness ads
- Tom Guarriello
Thesis ;-)
- clive boulton
CPM is higher the better qualified your prospect is...
- Jerry Schuman
I disagree with Chien-Yu about disposability - tweets do build relationships, especially the phatic ones
- Kevin Marks
Jerry: yes, because the efficiency is better.
- Robert Scoble
The HTC One + Engadget ad at JFK Airport: http://twitpic.com/as3zx9
- Nir Ben Yona
@Scoble: You are absolutely right. Awareness vs. Closing. But I making the claim that Twitter has some very definite disadvantages compared to other social forums.
- Chien-Yu Lin
and don't forget - its a GOODYEAR Blimp as you noted. So Goodyear gets the product placement too - even though you are miles away
- studentforce
Chien: that's true, but Twitter has hundreds of millions of eyeballs.
- Robert Scoble
phatic ones or phallic ones...
- clive boulton
http://j.mp/twittertheory phatic, clive. Phallic tweets don't build relationships
- Kevin Marks
@Marks: When you talk to people on Twitter do you come back for the information or do you go somewhere else (as with all of the links)? Also, have you made more "friends" from Twitter or from Facebook?
- Chien-Yu Lin
Chien: I've made more friends on Twitter but that is quickly changing.
- Robert Scoble
there are many different ways that people find to make a universal message bus useful, and those individual people get to decide which ways make sense for them
- Jerome Hughes
Kevin: nod
- clive boulton
many more from twitter than from facebook
- Kevin Marks
Chien-Yu: I often prefer the simplicity of Twitter versus Facebook, but FB is def. much more social.
- Alex de Soto
@Isaacs: Yes - Twitter is a fast response, complaint engine. But do you find that it is more of a "starter environment" or a "fostering environment"?
- Chien-Yu Lin
Twitter has always been an Identity system. A tweet is nothing more then a Presence message
- Jerry Schuman
I'm nto invited to the apple event :(
- Kevin Marks
ing the gang?
- Kevin Marks
It's crazy that Twitter didn't build a business model around search, just crazy
- Stephen Pickering
@Alex De Soto: Agreed. Half the appeal of texting is not wanting the details and length of a conversation, but having the satisfaction of communication. We want acknowledgement, but not necessarily depth. We expect closure: that's why we have emoticons.
- Chien-Yu Lin
:)
- Alex de Soto
Twitter seems to be one of those apps with a lot of untapped potential, but the potential never seems to emerge.
- Michael Roberts
I dont get that about Apple
- Tina Chase Gillmor
hm, I'm at Mobile 2.0 on tuesday, going to be tough to get to disrupt in time. http://mobile2event.com/...
- Kevin Marks
Why on earth wouldn't they regularly invite Scoble?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
“It’s almost here.” http://www.macrumors.com/2012...
- clive boulton
Kevin... where is Mobile 2.0?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Grand Hyatt Union Square. Where's disrupt this time?
- Kevin Marks
@Scoble: Agreed. But do you think in the long term, will people buy from Twitter?; how will Twitter be able to claim advertising from its platform as effective (it is true mobile, but may have to create discount coupons that expire within 1 hour of setting off geo-fencing - granted, this is a challenge for all - but I see it more as a challenge for them since their transactions are so short).
- Chien-Yu Lin
@Chien-Yu: I see it is both, but I in my role I focus on customer service. It is a Starter Environment for initiating complaints, that are usually taken off line. It can also be a Fostering Environment; when an angry tweet falls on deaf ears it can foster collaboration (in some case "rallying the troops", in some cases others coming to the aid of the suffering Tweeter).
- Charlie Isaacs
@de Soto: Touche.
- Chien-Yu Lin
Google+ is focusing on events with hangouts... they're starting to really show off the capabilities
- Jerry Schuman
Facebook could also disaggregate some of its services like the status update, and voila a simple twitter feed
- Michael Roberts
You calling me a dark spot?
- Jerry Schuman
Jerry: yup, that's where Google is strong.
- Robert Scoble
Thanks for joining us, good chat room today!
- Robert Scoble
IT conversations probably exist.
- Michael Roberts
@Isaacs: But do you find the speed of Twitter is more helpful than the granularity and details of Facebook? I know each has its place, but in the long run, would it not be easier for FB to just mimic Twitter than Twitter to build a profile base and communication platform?
- Chien-Yu Lin
Livestream also has a new device
- Jerry Schuman
Wish G+ will disaggregate some of its services like the status update, and voila a simple twitter feed (lite weight web)
- clive boulton
@Gang: As always, great information, learn something new each show. Be safe. Have fun this weekend.
- Chien-Yu Lin
I'll bike over from union square tDisrupt at 8th st after I get offstage
- Kevin Marks
Great show! Good weekend all.
- Alex de Soto
Good show all. thanks for being here to everyone
- Tina Chase Gillmor
about 12 mins by bike
- Kevin Marks
Thanks Chien-Yu
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Sorry @Chien-Yu, got pulled off on a call :) That was a fantastic show, BTW. I like Twitter for its instantaneous activity capabilities -- you can Tweet something and get a response within seconds, whereas, FB has more of a delay. I know a lot of people who are always watching Twitter with one eye (because of what you said earlier about news feeds) and only check FB a few times a day. I...
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- Charlie Isaacs
@Isaacs: Agreed. I just think of the possible scenarios - and the underlying usage / "DNA" of each company - I am not sure that it will have the value we think it does. We will all have essentially a "stock ticker" of life that will quickly be ignored and commoditized.
- Chien-Yu Lin
@Chien-Yu @issacs G+ has more delay than FB. But comes into its own talking-in-circles. {replaces email in the enterprise?}
- clive boulton
@cliveb @Chien-Yu Well, put on your "vendor filter" but of course I am biased towards Chatter, that replaces email in our enterprise, and many others... G+ is like Chatter in many ways but it isn't integrated into the other mission-critical apps in the enterprise. For example, you should be able to collaborate around any enterprise "activity" -- Leads, Cases, Interactions, etc. and it should feed into a common thread for you without having to cut and paste everything manually. You can't do that with G+.
- Charlie Isaacs
@Isaacs: Keep your "vendor filter" on. We're building a SAP/G+ app for nitty-gritty enterprise activity like chasing shortages.
- clive boulton
ok, will do, @cliveb thanks and good luck
- Charlie Isaacs
GIllmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PT participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim...
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Gonna be a fun show today!
- Robert Scoble
Gillmor Gang vs. Dream Team against Argentina. Decisions... decisions :)
- Nir Ben Yona
Wish I could be here for the entire show, but...I will try to disrupt while I can
- Francine Hardaway
hello alllll
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Welcome to two factor authentication.
- Jerry Schuman
Remote Wipe is such a bad idea.
- Kevin Marks
Scoble has a grey beard and is losing some fur.
- Francine Hardaway
If you use LastPass turn on two-factor there too.
- Jerry Schuman
I turned off BOTH remote wipe and 2-factor authentication. I tried 2-factor and it was too difficult
- Francine Hardaway
I think I will start using LastPass for the important accounts and use 2-factor there. Easier, Jerry
- Francine Hardaway
oh God another thing to have to think about
- Tina Chase Gillmor
we're supposed to be backing up? ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
didn't seem like there wasn't anything epic with RIM remote wipes, was there?
- Da
Francine, the problem is that you're still exposed on a service by service basis without a secondary auth method even if you do it on LastPass only. That at least does protect your password library.
- Jerry Schuman
Good lesson to use a good/unique password for your online backup/last line of defense...
- Denise Howell
No Steve, not just once.
- Francine Hardaway
I am backed up by Google, iCloud, and Carbonite. Itsn't that enough?
- Francine Hardaway
It is painful to setup two-factor in general. I don't think it's that bad once it's setup.
- Jerry Schuman
Robert needs non auto-mute on
- Kevin Marks
2 factor can make it worse, if it assumes possession fo cellphone is the second factor
- Kevin Marks
wow, allowing password changes using some fairly pubic information
- Da
I have OTP devices across my entire line of devices..
- Jerry Schuman
The details on the "epic hack:" http://www.wired.com/gadgetl... If you haven't read it.
- Robert Scoble
If you haven't yet, get SecuriToken for your Macs. It's free
- Jerry Schuman
30 second One-Time Passwords
- Jerry Schuman
You can setup Google Authenticator for LastPass, Robert. Works just fine.
- Jerry Schuman
Hi gang !!!
- Rocky Barbanica
THat's why I didn't get nuts.
- Francine Hardaway
screen-saver password
- Da
Kevin, that is true if you don't protect entry into your phone.
- Jerry Schuman
Hi Rocman, my love
- Francine Hardaway
I'm the new TRICASTER MASTER in da house ! ok - Tina can still kick my A$$ but I'm creepin in close :-)
- Rocky Barbanica
Proximity sensors and Geo-location are definitely up and coming players in this space of security.
- Jerry Schuman
Enterprise taken over OAuth http://hueniverse.com/2012...
- clive boulton
Francine - I just LOVE you, my dear!
- Rocky Barbanica
Rocky...I know nothing ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Most hacks are done through social engineering and always has been.
- Jerry Schuman
Apple and Amazon use same 4 digits of credit card to perform identity and display in public on web.
- clive boulton
That's what I am. Ignorant and don't need to worry about all this
- Francine Hardaway
Same 4 digits Security Flaw!!! Apple and Amazon - we can do better!!
- clive boulton
banks use the sort code and account number printed on every check you have to let people take money out.
- Kevin Marks
Most rich people I know are ignorant
- Francine Hardaway
most rich people I know are geeks and pretty smart
- Kevin Marks
My banks also have 2-factor authentication now
- Francine Hardaway
Most rich people I know are comfortably numb :)
- clive boulton
last 4 credit card numbers he got from Amazon is in receipts
- Da
Foo Fighters at Outside Lands today - wish I were there
- Rocky Barbanica
Well said John
- clive boulton
my 15 yr old son thinks Minecraft is awesome, that and Redditt
- Da
bet they have 2-factor authentication
- Rocky Barbanica
You don't live in AZ Kevin
- Francine Hardaway
I'll be there tomorrow (Outside Lands). In fact about 2am...
- Aron Michalski
I guess I have to play Minecraft to see what it's like
- Francine Hardaway
he built a tricked out PC to play MInecraft
- Da
I don't game. Ironically own a Wii, XBox 360 and PS3....
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Mark: same here. Except no wii. I used to own one of those but I gave it to a nephew who actually used it.
- Robert Scoble
NICE Aron !
- Rocky Barbanica
Scoob seems REALLY calm today - good ole DISNEY !!!
- Rocky Barbanica
First talke about how people are buying Twitter followers on EBay
- Francine Hardaway
Liked Kevin's Minecraft brief.
- clive boulton
NOTE: Same reason why Google Plus still hasn't created an API for 3rd party clients.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Daniella - you here ?
- Rocky Barbanica
Rocky: give me a few minutes. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Zynga shr price seems to be suffering from FB withdrawl
- clive boulton
Darn Aron... will miss you again
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Tina - HAH - as if - you've forgotten more than I know at this point :-)
- Rocky Barbanica
We are flying in from Mexico City in a few hours and going straight to work.
- Aron Michalski
Friendfeed. It just works.
- Laura Norvig
Friendfeed is awesome
- Da
Long Live 'The Dead' Friendfeed!
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Friendfeed needs more embedding options.
- clive boulton
When I flew to Hawaii, Benioff was seated in front of me - nice to see and talk to him again...
- Rocky Barbanica
It seems like Twitter has waffled over openness.
- Laura Norvig
theres-only-one-truly-open-platform-the-web http://gigaom.com/2012...
- Da
Straddling web enterprise is awkward (but irresistible play)
- clive boulton
Wordpress does OK
- Kevin Marks
I forgot I have an identica account.
- Laura Norvig
Shift to XAuth solves or complicates?
- clive boulton
which XAuth?
- Kevin Marks
It's just annoying when conversations about a resource I post are fragmented/siloed. I blame capitalism.
- Laura Norvig
OAuth is good infrastructure
- Kevin Marks
Thought: if there was a "Push Gateway" in the cloud for all to consume, it could save battery life and can be transported to all your devices.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
conversations are always fragmented; we only ever see a subset of the web.
- Kevin Marks
widgets are also pretty awesome for notification
- Da
Mark, you mean like urbanairship.com ?
- Kevin Marks
I KNEW the Glasses would come in here at some point - CHYAAAAA
- Rocky Barbanica
oye with the glasses again
- Tina Chase Gillmor
so is the gov't, Robert
- Rocky Barbanica
Da, I live within my widgets on my Tablets and Phone, great dashboard tool.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Kevin, not exactly but not very familiar with the service so maybe I'm wrong. Will look into it more.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
TALK to your GLASSES -- hehehe WHOA !!! I'll have what he's having
- Rocky Barbanica
Am I late? Customers came first, sorry about that :-)
- Charlie Isaacs
XAuth by OpenStack Keystone project
- clive boulton
Charlie, where do you get this "customer first" nonsense? ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
one good filter: if enough people are talking about it in my Google Reader, then something's up
- Da
LOL - always had a prollem with that too, Tina - until it was a mandate whence I work
- Rocky Barbanica
I feel obligated to post to both Twitter and Facebook if I find an awesome resource. A lot of the *same* people are following me in both places. They have to decide which place to comment on it. One convo goes in one direction, the other goes in another. It's OK, but it's not optimal.
- Laura Norvig
haha Tina, sorry, you're right, my wife is first :)
- Charlie Isaacs
Cavalia is a damn good show
- Kevin Marks
You guys have been talking about this exact topic for four years.
- Laura Norvig
four years? At least 10
- Kevin Marks
I missed the first six.
- Laura Norvig
OH TASHECL - WTF ?
- Rocky Barbanica
Even though I live in RSS (for Blogs, Twitter, G+, etc), I admit RSS tools do need better filters. Nobody has perfected context and filters.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Path is the same as everything else.
- Laura Norvig
TASHEK
- Rocky Barbanica
Dave Winer just tweeted "If I were using a Twitter clone, I'd want it to support RSS feeds in both directions, from the start, for everything."
- Charlie Isaacs
Path now lets Arrington nag me about not logging into path. Yay.
- Kevin Marks
hehe look at Robert's expression
- Rocky Barbanica
You do, Scoble.
- Laura Norvig
Rocky, is he blushing?
- Laura Norvig
that Path "shame" thing is like FB "pole", no?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
It's the mentioning on TV & Radio that moves average users. Pinterest gets some airtime and BOOM. Marketing still is alive!
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I like Tashecl - I think it means something in Turkish ...
- John Taschek
I think my brother-in-lawe
- Tina Chase Gillmor
oops
- Tina Chase Gillmor
my kid is not on Path nor any of his friends, Instagram is big though
- Da
one sone exists on txt messages, the other on reddit
- Kevin Marks
my daughter loves Instagram.... and she has thousands of followers
- Tina Chase Gillmor
@Kevin, chances you are open to speaking on OAuth at http://www.siliconvalley-codecamp.com/
- clive boulton
We have rented the large speaker room. Seats 1200. (we chatted at #pii2012)
- clive boulton
Gray, the Studio Cat, is once again trying to pick his way back into the room. He is highly upset about being locked out
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Kayak sends me these notifications "shouldn't you be home with your wife" or "you spent too much on this ticket"
- Charlie Isaacs
Heh.
- Robert Scoble
Tina - mine too - instagram is a staple for that gen
- Rocky Barbanica
What would GG be without Kevin Marks ???
- Rocky Barbanica
"A rogue advertisement sneaks through his junkbuster proxy and spams glowing fifties kitsch across his navigation window which is blinking for a moment before a phage process kills it and spawns a new filter." -Accelerando
- Da
I love that BEHING Steve shot - Tina ROCKS !!!!
- Rocky Barbanica
the poorer, rocky!
- Hilary Talbot
BEHIND - sheesh
- Rocky Barbanica
Oooooo - bad drop outs
- Rocky Barbanica
SCOBLE !!!!
- Rocky Barbanica
Nuthead----- hahha
- Rocky Barbanica
Rocky you need to be standing next to Scoble...the Rocky Filter
- Charlie Isaacs
RIM doesn't have a device problem, they have a OS/Apps problem (MSFT has to make a move)
- clive boulton
hehe- thanks Charlie - I don't get hazardos duty pay
- Rocky Barbanica
Heh. Robert & Rocky show would be very popular but would get us fired.
- Robert Scoble
Steve is looking like an orchestra conductor, trying to herd the kittens (or was that arm waving?)
- Charlie Isaacs
*dead*
- Laura Norvig
GO KEVIN !!!!
- Rocky Barbanica
BB still massively popular in Asia (esp with chatting teenz)
- clive boulton
RIM has an 'oh crap we didn't choose android' problem
- Kevin Marks
RIM ? WTF?
- Rocky Barbanica
Gillmor - we love ya dude
- Rocky Barbanica
Ohhhh - BTW - RocmaUSA got a new tattoo in Hawaii
- Rocky Barbanica
Hula dancer?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'm sorry I missed the beginning of this show. Where do the videos get archived?
- Laura Norvig
MSFT doubles down buys RIM or RIM backfits Android?
- clive boulton
cant even spell my name right - whoa!
- Rocky Barbanica
I'm worried about iCloud
- Kevin Marks
they clearly have some things wrong there
- Kevin Marks
And I miss my iDisk.
- Kevin Marks
Laura - Techcrunch
- Tina Chase Gillmor
OH SCOBLE - not when we travel with YOU driving
- Rocky Barbanica
thx, Tina.
- Laura Norvig
I feel pretty secure about being hooked into the Google
- Da
k - i'm done - thanks for putting up with me today ! Love y'all
- Rocky Barbanica
The Gillmor Gang filtering/signalling system http://ow.ly/i/QdBR
- Charlie Isaacs
We love to have GG do a live show at http://www.siliconvalley-codecamp.com/
- clive boulton
Pete Best's Beatles
- Kevin Marks
SVCC large room seats 1200
- clive boulton
cliveb: I put that on my calendar, thanks. Not sure we can do a show, though.
- Robert Scoble
Thanks Robert - the Gu will be in town too.
- clive boulton
Laura - this show should post tomorrow at 10am Pacific
- Tina Chase Gillmor
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Why did Facebook go public? They couldn't figure out the privacy settings either.
- clive boulton
That may be the funniest joke all day
- Francine Hardaway
Hanging out, waiting for the call.
- Robert Scoble
Hanging out, waiting for the live feed. Haha. Steve must be watching the closing reports on the Facebook IPO.
- Brad Acker
I have a strong feeling we're gonna hear a lot of FACEBOOK today ;)
- Nir Ben Yona
almost ready to rumble!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
There's not much to say about it — other than it's overhyped, not worth the price currently. In the long run, it might be a big winner; but when you have so many investors willing to buy stock in a company that has not really figured out how to make money or is still experimenting and has a CEO who just spent $1 billion on a company without revenues, it is still a BIG RISK at the...
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- Brad Acker
I put in an order for 100 shares at 39 and it was never filled. Must have been too busy with big shareholders. I wanted to see where it would go.
- Francine Hardaway
Almost ready! On in 10,9,8...
- Robert Scoble
Yay, voices, video connection made!!!
- Brad Acker
John, are you cold?
- Brad Acker
Google chart.
- Brad Acker
The big story is the systems failure of NASDAQ.
- Jerry Schuman
The medium truly is the message
- Stephen Pickering
New Flipboard update with Soundcloud is awesome!
- Nir Ben Yona
There's always Mercedes to BMW.
- Alex de Soto
Good to see Kevin at #pii2012.
- clive boulton
What about audio on Flipboard Robert? Sorry Ben. Typed too slow. You beat me to it.
- Alex de Soto
Ask Samsung about the 10 billion dollar market nosedive after they got tossed as a supplier
- Jerry Schuman
The problem is these two year contracts
- Stephen Pickering
do you know how many 12 year olds have iPhones? Im not sure Apple is a luxury brand anymore.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Nokia is done.. The moment you start dipping into your cash.. the fat lady starts singing. Actually in Nokia's case she might yoddle
- Jerry Schuman
Google+ seems done.
- clive boulton
thank my point John. Everyone has an iphone now
- Tina Chase Gillmor
That's one of the keys. in Mobile Apple isn't more expensive
- Stephen Pickering
BB now selling 'em for $50
- Jerome Hughes
I haven't got an iPhone
- Kevin Marks
Cliveb, I don't think Google+ is done. My friends are just coming on
- Francine Hardaway
Because of this two year thing, I still have a crappy 4, well it's not crappy, but I want a new iPhone every year
- Stephen Pickering
NPR on Flipboard is gorgeous.
- Alex de Soto
Flipscam
- Stephen Pickering
Maybe The Beatles can go on Flipboard to excite Stephen.
- Alex de Soto
Beatles on Soundcloud now
- Kevin Marks
hmmm Pintrest.... add it to flipboard... :)
- Orville Chomer
Pinterest replaces browsing through glossy magazines
- Kevin Marks
plant
- Jerome Hughes
No I'm not the plant. :)
- Alex de Soto
Kevin, I like Fab better. You can also buy
- Francine Hardaway
But Soundcloud isn't unlimited
- Stephen Pickering
It does play in the background on Flipboard and you can continue to explore other stories.
- Alex de Soto
Francine, good. My sense Google+ needs more of a sign-on / sign-out UX to reinforce trust and sharing. #chi2011
- clive boulton
Let's talk about whether the iPhone 5 screen needs to be bigger
- Stephen Pickering
We have beautiful walled gardens in my gated community.
- Ankush Narula
Facebook buys Karma app http://bit.ly/J3iIfc
- Nir Ben Yona
ask Steve to show you his glass
- Tina Chase Gillmor
#chi2011: Talking in Circles: Selective Sharing in Google+
- clive boulton
Facebook should buy Kickstarter
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I have a fenced garden, you can see it over my shoulder. It is next to a park though.
- Kevin Marks
The big story is the ridiculous multiples on Facebook stock and the bad timing of the IPO.
- Steven E. Streight
Facebook can't buy anything. It needs money for privacy lawsuits. Like that $15 billion one.
- Steven E. Streight
you could do something called Encouragement? ... encourage the person having the bad day of course.
- Orville Chomer
how many privacy lawyers FB has?
- clive boulton
Facebook Hockey Stick curve: http://pinterest.com/pin...
- Kevin Marks
couldn't agree more with Robert about the birthday crap on Facebook
- Brad Acker
Salesforce crappy financials?
- Jerry Schuman
soundboard is interesting..thanks Robert
- Jim Posner
just kidding... bad quarter for a lot of companies
- Jerry Schuman
No problem here
- Francine Hardaway
hmm.. Karma app not in my appstore... probably US only, or limited countries, unsure...
- Jose P Isern Comas
Mining privacy's the new black gold. And why EnSW is not FB.
- clive boulton
Facebook just bought another company, Karma
- Kashif Khan
sorry I didnt catch that Robert
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I think Gabe is balancing his laptop on his knees
- Tina Chase Gillmor
he's literal like that
- Kevin Marks
I find Techmeme stories on Flipboard! ;) Wonder how much traffic they get from them.
- Alex de Soto
Does TM link to Facebook stuff?
- Jim Posner
I saw an app that's kind of like 'encouragement' this week: http://taptank.com
- Kevin Marks
The Bing + Facebook connection will also be interesting to watch. I've been trying the new social search on Bing this week.
- Alex de Soto
And where do people on facebook get their autism links from?
- Todd Hoff
from autism blogs
- Kevin Marks
I'm starting to want a social network that's just a Social Network and a Search Engine that's just a Search Engine
- Stephen Pickering
Alex, has that rolled out to everyone? I didn't see it yesterday
- Francine Hardaway
Francine: By invitation only so far.
- Alex de Soto
Stephen: It would be good to turn on social search only when you want it. When searching for a movie, restaurant, etc.
- Alex de Soto
The Autism List: https://www.facebook.com/lists...
- Robert Scoble
Find Interest Lists here: https://www.facebook.com/addlist...
- Robert Scoble
I would like to see a noise filter on memeorandum...how many of the stories are truly important vs. noise ala Huffington Post...give us filters and upvotes Gabe.
- Jim Posner
and others review the output and tend the configuration tables used by the algorithm
- Jerome Hughes
reddit works well with filters
- Da
http://thinkingautismguide.blogspot.com/ is a good autism blog
- Kevin Marks
they can zero out pagerank, yes
- Kevin Marks
I like Kevin's bird noise drifting into Gabe's space. Kinda funny cause it's Gabe
- Tina Chase Gillmor
YouTube now promotes videos from my G+ social network first and it has been a disaster. Rarely do I see anything interesting anymore. Content based ranking works best for a lot of things.
- Todd Hoff
the crows were triggering Skype silencing people. the doves are OK
- Kevin Marks
Hacker News is doing a great job...like to see more of that model on Techmeme.
- Jim Posner
Will the Editorial Bots (algorithms, filters, etc.) triumph over people?
- Alex de Soto
Missing: Google search and separate Google+ search. 2 buttons!
- clive boulton
Corona needs to be served icey cold with a lime. Just saying
- Tina Chase Gillmor
http://pinterest.com/pin... was what I saw on wednesday
- Kevin Marks
We need a way to use parts of someone else's profile. I'd love to save the time it took Robert to like thousands of brands, yet be selective.
- Murray Macdonald
Does Techmeme have push?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
it pushes to twitter
- Kevin Marks
It pushes to Flipboard too and Facebook even!
- Robert Scoble
oooo that's better Gabe
- Tina Chase Gillmor
de-dupe engineers hotter than hadoop engineers...
- clive boulton
ice clinking in glass sound effect?
- Kevin Marks
Steve is drinking from his John Lennon glass
- Tina Chase Gillmor
sadly not gonna happen with all the silos
- Da
Beats the McDonald's cup Tina!
- Alex de Soto
John Lennon's glasses wouldn't hold much
- Kevin Marks
true Alex. Had time to make the iced tea today
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Video with Karma's founder: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Robert Scoble
size of the needle?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
market is ripe for a social/data stream processor that automates what Scoble does manually.
- Jim Posner
that was deeeeep
- Orville Chomer
hadoop social/data stream de-dup and push.
- clive boulton
I thought DataSift had potential but that didn't work out.
- Jim Posner
lots of ppl waiting on new macbook pros
- clive boulton
Airplay doesn't always work. I updated my Apple TV yesterday and now all I get is the audio of the show on my TV
- Francine Hardaway
does Apple TV work outside the US? SIRI doesn't "really" work outside the US
- Murray Macdonald
That was a comment from a "normal" person
- Francine Hardaway
wow the Gang is so subdued on this IPO Friday
- Tina Chase Gillmor
DataSift is more targeted at selecting out particular signals than taking the whole feed and chunking it into signals.
- Todd Hoff
yes
- Kevin Marks
When is Netflix going to stream 3D?..just got a 3D tv and looking for more content from services I am paying for already.
- Jim Posner
if "unlimited data" means way more people use your network than you thought would use it and you have to spend Billions to try to make the network be able to keep up, then unlimited data can be a bad decision. Its not a bad decision for users... but it cost lots of bucks to make the network be able to handle the load.
- Orville Chomer
DataSift mines only Twitter stream?
- clive boulton
the risk of demo failure prevents them from demo'ing airplay at the keynote
- Ankush Narula
I'm not sure about now, but they started with Twitter but have the ability to plug in other streams.
- Todd Hoff
but it unlimited made me so loyal to VZW, now may go to T-mobile
- Da
DataSift is twitter only...cool idea but haven't seen much compelling out of the beta.
- Jim Posner
Will iPhone 5 have to have a bigger screen?
- Stephen Pickering
the HTC One X screen is awesome
- Da
AppleTV sales are fairly viral - I haven't seen an advert for AppleTV yet
- Ankush Narula
i like Apple TV, I have two of them
- Orville Chomer
I haven't got the 1080p appletv yet
- Kevin Marks
I also have a mac mini plugged into the TV
- Kevin Marks
I have the 720 in the bedroom and the 1080 in the living room - they're great - watching GG in living room right now via AirParrot
- Ankush Narula
Wow, I advised Nanosys years ago:-)
- Francine Hardaway
Sony plug...HX929 awesome tv.
- Jim Posner
Is there an ongoing revenue stream for AppleTV beyond the initial device sale?
- Murray Macdonald
1-click iTunes sales/rentals and maybe Netflix and MLB subscription revenue
- Ankush Narula
I have two iPads and a Mac Mini, Kevin, and Apple Tv, and I use all of them with my TVs from time to time
- Francine Hardaway
can't play Modern Warfare on it though, so it's XBox for us
- Da
So I can meaningfully use the device without a subscription, as long as I don't buy premium content?
- Murray Macdonald
Kevin, will privacy be back-fitted into enterprise sharing...#pii
- clive boulton
Murray - yes - you can access content in iTunes on your desktop/laptop - and you can login to existing Netflix/MLB/NBA/NHL accounts and stream that content - and of course use AirPlay from iOS devices
- Ankush Narula
Facebook to acquire the Gillmor Gang.
- Nir Ben Yona
Is the show live only or is it archived anywhere?
- Jim Posner
also youtube, vimeo some others (not amazon)
- Kevin Marks
Wow Steve really using his hands today and I didn't even prompt that
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Jim, it's archived on Techcrunch.
- Nir Ben Yona
thx
- Jim Posner
also on youtube
- Kevin Marks
and iTunes
- Ankush Narula
Clear that Judge Alsup has had quite enough of David Boies.
- Denise Howell
only seeing 2010 shows on techcrunch
- Jim Posner
anyone have a youtube link?
- Jim Posner
Nir :-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Tina, just a hunch :)
- Nir Ben Yona
judge alsup learned to write enough java code to grip the case..!
- clive boulton
I agree with Scoble. We need to take in relevant info while idle. Only part of my time is infront of a screen. I want contextually relevant data while I drive my car and brush my teeth.
- Murray Macdonald
google glasses
- Da
Carburetors vs Porches: saving time vs spending time.
- clive boulton
Murray... would that require push?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I shouldn't need a new device, just a new app
- Murray Macdonald
iPad are taking off in the enterprise...but device tracking is still an issue from an IT security perspective.
- Jim Posner
Perhaps... It depends on my device and desired content. I should be able to offline content.
- Murray Macdonald
Android apps can run all the time. Let's not be held back by apple limitations.
- Murray Macdonald
Tina, Is there an archive of recent shows?
- Jim Posner
until the OS randomly kills them, Murray
- Kevin Marks
they can get remote notifications too though, even if not running
- Kevin Marks
Sometime Highlight comes up and announces that Steve Gillmor is nearby. but mostly it doesn't... even when he is. Not sure how that works
- Tina Chase Gillmor
IT tracks laptops
- Da
so, why did FB buy Glancee instead of Highlight
- Da
glancee had more tech and was probably cheaper
- Kevin Marks
Sorry I missed this today
- Keith Teare
Highlight not in same league as Instagram?
- Da
being boring is exciting enterprise
- clive boulton
Thanks guys... Always worth watching.
- Murray Macdonald
Great show.
- Robert Scoble
Hey Keith
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Thanks everyone
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Facebook bought Glancee because it lost. Translation it was a deal to hire the engineers.
- Robert Scoble
so Glancee had better engineers
- Da
Hi Tina
- Keith Teare
GIllmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PT participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim...
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patents...sue me, sue you
- clive boulton
sue sue suidio...
- Aron Michalski
gather 'round
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Scoble is locked and loaded ...
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Was there ever a doubt?
- Aron Michalski
Awesome.
- Robert Scoble
calling Taschek
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Kevin Marks... where are you?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
sorry for delay folks?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'll show off the Canon 5D MKIII on the show. Just arrived.
- Robert Scoble
everyone is ready... here we go
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Gizmodo gave it a great review: http://gizmodo.com/5895239...
- Robert Scoble
Flip down Steve's lapel, Tina :)
- Denise Howell
Hey guys!
- Nir Ben Yona
Wow thrilled to see you're still using FriendFeed @scobleizer :-) It's still my search engine for tweets
- Tony Hollingsworth
thanks Denise
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Yes: Push back Facebook
- clive boulton
its like sexual harassment
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Tuesday’s Supreme Court ruling, written by Justice Stephen Breyer, “focused heavily on a trio of software patents”
- clive boulton
facebook is like your home
- Tina Chase Gillmor
How's it any different than giving permission to get a credit report on you to get a job
- Stephen M
late to the party... what did I miss? ;-)
- Jerry Schuman
Not much.
- Robert Scoble
what about the SPDY protocol that Google is tryin to implement?
- Stephen M
surprised to see Dan Farber on the show, welcome back.
- Jerry Schuman
SPDY protocol: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Stephen M
yep Dan's back inmany ways. glad to see him too
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I don't read the NYTimes
- Stephen M
the always present "analog hole"
- Jerry Schuman
I happily Pay for The Wall Street Journal
- Stephen M
and The Daily on the iPad
- Stephen M
My Starbucks cup isn't covered with ads
- Jerry Schuman
Actually the NYTimes pay wall isn't doing to well... three months after it was launched they announced they had 200k subscribers.. here we are 9 months later and they only have 435k users
- Stephen M
most of those 200k subscribers in the first 3 months got a deal of 99 cents
- Stephen M
Google has already implemented SPDY; firefox is now doing it too
- Kevin Marks
I got subscriptions to WSJ, economist, forbes, atlantic with airmiles. They pile up, I throw them out. Not sure anyone reads them
- Kevin Marks
i prefer the WSJ ipad app
- Stephen M
taschek please move so I can see if you are locked up
- Tina Chase Gillmor
adapt or die... simple.
- Jerry Schuman
I pay for the NYT and Harpers, but not the WSJ. Get dead tree versions of Atlantic, and New Yorker.
- Frank Paynter
john taschek ... trying to get you back
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I pay for the National Review and Weekly Standard..the digitial editiions
- Stephen M
Somebody should set up Craig's List parking lots where people can bring their stuff for exchange.
- Frank Paynter
how can you include NPR, they get gov funds
- Stephen M
Frank: that's a good idea. But when I did a garage sale that is pretty much how people got to my house anyway.
- Robert Scoble
my name super says salesaforce - is that an italian version?
- Kevin Marks
It's not a problem on my end. Should I try calling you?
- John Taschek
Al Jazeera? lol anti-american
- Stephen M
Good to see Dan back on the gang again.
- Hilary Talbot
we'll have to change that super. Good catch Kevin
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Robert, I'm not sure I want many strangers at my house.
- Frank Paynter
FT.com paywall more convenience than having to Google articles
- clive boulton
It took 3 days for Anderson Cooper to get to Japan for coverage
- Jerry Schuman
Frank, i use a consignment shop to sell my stuff..its kinda like craigs list
- Stephen M
None of use newspaper classified ads!
- Frank Paynter
that's one paper I don't pay for..the local paper
- Stephen M
Fox News now has live streaming of the channel on the ipad app.. woohoo
- Stephen M
I'm watching live CNBC via my Ameritrade app on my iPad... all day long.
- Jerry Schuman
ok.. so now talk about Aereo
- Jerry Schuman
Am reminded of the recent documentary on the NYT where at a conference panel David Carr held up the printed homepage of http://www.newser.com/ with all of the NYT articles cut out... there was nothing left on their homepage. Swiss-cheese.
- Johnny C
the secret to Al Jazeerah's success is their relationship with people on the ground. When something happens, they are looking to be the 'one' brand for news for people to share the event(s) LIVE until one of their journos gets there to report. Great use of citizen journalism and professional journalism. They build their news sharing model/architecture focussed on the community with a view back to their services for global amplification.
- iconic88
Nice, the ability to consume your lame Verizon or AT$T LTE data plan in 30 minutes
- Jerry Schuman
Roku has a techcrunch and engadet channel
- Stephen M
Shotgun marriage...
- clive boulton
Journalism matters - this storify by Charles Arthur of the geeklist twitter storm made it news: http://storify.com/charles...
- Kevin Marks
ARM or intel versino of Win8?
- Stephen M
lol.
- Stephen M
exactly, iconic88 - that's what I was saying about stringers
- Kevin Marks
has anyone been paying attention to the leaked information about Office 15? it looks really interesting
- Stephen M
Moe: not on my iPad.
- Robert Scoble
I'm waiting for Sprint LTE..they have announced that their data on phones will still be Unlimited!!
- Stephen M
Moe: it rocks just like the old one (new iPad battery).
- Robert Scoble
so logical
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Facebook in deal to beef up patent portfolio: http://on.ft.com/GI8YqN
- clive boulton
Moe: it's slightly warmer than old one, but no.
- Robert Scoble
Are privacy controls patentable...?
- clive boulton
Get the bloody broadcast television spectrum... blow the doors off the carrier stranglehold
- Jerry Schuman
Jerry AT&T and Verizon bought the old analog broadcast spectrum
- Stephen M
exactly jerry, we need white spaces to expand wifi
- Kevin Marks
true that
- Stephen M
I do not have an overheating problem
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Was watching on my iPhone from the car and ran into the house just as I heard my name!!!
- Francine Hardaway
Office is in the cloud
- Stephen M
So happy to be somewhere where I can not only watch, but chat.
- Francine Hardaway
How did Steve know I was here?
- Francine Hardaway
Tina, exchange it. (no bacon and egg breakfast for Steve...)
- clive boulton
he didn't francine.. just likes to talk about you
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Social graph personalization.... hmmm... I knew a company once that did that. ;-)
- Jerry Schuman
Hey, Scoble, you win about Highlight. Chelsea told me she has actually met Andy from HMB because they appeared several times in each other's Highlight:-)
- Francine Hardaway
Streamboard. I use it
- Francine Hardaway
I don't trust twitter.. people may get things wrong
- Stephen M
Speaking of Al Jazeera I just got back from DrupalCon where their lead developer did a talk where on how they built out a custom implementation using Drupal. It includes an editorial process for their writers that is optimized to get news published quickly on top of an extensive caching layer. Very impressive based on their site traffic. You can learn more and see screenshots of their...
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- Mark Krynsky
Stephen: people get things wrong in mainstream press all the time.
- Robert Scoble
who do you think doesn't get things wrong, stephen?
- Kevin Marks
"so hot it cooks eggs! Just kidding." http://instagr.am/p...
- clive boulton
Stephen: 35,000 people die while driving in the US every year. You saying you never leave the house?
- Robert Scoble
lol no
- Stephen M
Case in point on getting it wrong... the guy that did the video of him flying with his wings... freaking saw him all over mainstream media...
- Jerry Schuman
maybe wrong was the incorrect word...
- Stephen M
cliveb: you like that photo? Having fun with Apple.
- Robert Scoble
with Twitter there isn't any context
- Stephen M
I should have spiked my iced tea
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Jerry: exactly. The mainstream media gets fooled all the time too.
- Robert Scoble
you'll find out that someone was shot... i'd like to know they why, and the who..
- Stephen M
I need a studio bar
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I need a bar, studio
- Jerry Schuman
I have a tiki bar on the deck
- Kevin Marks
i could go for a long island ice tea.. :)
- Stephen M
TikiBar.. now there was a podcast.
- Jerry Schuman
yummmm... bring it on
- Tina Chase Gillmor
It's a beautiful day in AZ -- for a Tiki Bar
- Francine Hardaway
You folks are making me thirsty and I still have work to do today. Kevin makes me want to put an umbrella in my drink tonight.
- Mark Krynsky
fresh oranges and lemons here
- Kevin Marks
adapt or die
- Jerry Schuman
Francine, you're pretty much fulltime in AZ now/
- Amyloo
just ask Loic
- Jerry Schuman
?
- Amyloo
Loic was pretty stand up..
- Stephen M
how does Flipboard get away with having the news article without an ad?
- Stephen M
Loic has pivoted so many times he has to be getting dizzy. He shouldn't have drank the Microsoft kool-aid
- Jerry Schuman
synthesize some fresh oranges and lemons on the conveyor belt. Juice!
- clive boulton
they put ads in the middle of n pages
- Kevin Marks
ah, i guess i just haven't seen it hm
- Stephen M
Sold my house in HMB when daughter moved to London.
- Francine Hardaway
He fell for Silverlight
- clive boulton
i guess dan doesn't care for Huffington Poast
- Stephen M
Poor Loic
- Francine Hardaway
try adding the Guardian to your flipboard
- Kevin Marks
Huffington poach :)
- Stephen M
hm ok
- Stephen M
Links are not overrated. They are a common courtesy
- Francine Hardaway
OOh an ad
- Stephen M
Tina, did Dan F change jobs?
- Francine Hardaway
Same stories, right. Same thing on cable news.
- Amyloo
The thing I appreciate most about Flipboard is the instant drilldown and out capability. Example, click on a hashtag and hit Show Section.... instant gratification
- Jerry Schuman
+1 Amy Loo
- Francine Hardaway
Hey Amy
- Hilary Talbot
When my stories were published via engadget, it only increased my traffic; Big time.#justsaying
- Nir Ben Yona
Hi Hil! Hi Hil! Hi Hil! Hi Hil! Hi Hil! Hi Hil! Hi Hil! Hi Hil! Hi Hil!
- Amyloo
ABC News is getting a lot of traffic from Yahoo News
- Stephen M
:)
- Hilary Talbot
Flipboard is nice but they need logic other than sorting by newest content in descending order. I'm a huge fan of Zite which is spot on for bringing me relevant content.
- Mark Krynsky
Let's all cheer for the 24 Hour News Cycle!!
- Frank Paynter
Agree Mark. Always like Zite
- Francine Hardaway
Yahoo!-ABC News Network Becomes the New #1 Online News Source - http://abcn.ws/GL6ypn reached a total audience of over 89 million people in the first month since they combined traffic as the Yahoo! – ABC News Network
- Stephen M
Mark, congrats on the 5 year anniversary for the lifestream blog..
- Jerry Schuman
I find much more value in "best of day" content over "latest" in app interfaces.
- Mark Krynsky
Thanks Jerry!
- Mark Krynsky
Check out Aereo!
- Jerry Schuman
Ok I will.
- Mark Krynsky
argh. Back finally.
- Aron Michalski
Aereo is capturing HD video from OTA broadcast television then streaming it.
- Jerry Schuman
ICA owns Aereo
- Jerry Schuman
Scoble's story re "want a newspaper" like the grocery checkout person who actually asked me last week if I also wanted to buy stamps and some film. I said "WHAT?"
- Amyloo
We did this with QuickTime TV a decade ago
- Kevin Marks
they have servers that are nothing more then a giant array of HD antenas
- Jerry Schuman
that's why i have to sign in with my directv account to watch the fox news stream on their ipad app
- Stephen M
film...funny
- Hilary Talbot
Jerry, "Aereo is available exclusively in New York City"
- Frank Paynter
At this moment... yes only in NYC
- Jerry Schuman
Glad I have a daughter with a Brooklyn address
- Jerry Schuman
I watch the NFL live on my ipad
- Stephen M
Office is dead, long live Office
- Jerry Schuman
The National Forensic League? I'm watching that this weekend... https://www.facebook.com/events...
- Kevin Marks
lol
- Stephen M
I just filled a dumpster with ten years or more of MS Partner crap.
- Frank Paynter
Interesting article says Facebook, Twitter still not THAT important for news http://bit.ly/wDv6RH
- Nir Ben Yona
Office 2010 was the fastest selling version of Office in history
- Stephen M
OnLive Desktop... office is dead, long live office
- Jerry Schuman
Coroner Gillmor: Ding Dong, everything's dead http://hosting.opml.org/amyloo...
- Amyloo
I have to use Office because clients do
- Francine Hardaway
Microsoft doesn't care why you have to use it... just that you purchase it
- Stephen M
Just keep watching the Microsoft quarterly earning reports... Office is dying a slow but imminent death
- Jerry Schuman
here we go into the Microsoft competitors bashing on Microsoft
- Stephen M
Totally buzzword compliant
- Francine Hardaway
Tiles
- Stephen Pickering
Windows 8 looks like GeckoBoard
- Jerry Schuman
Windows 1 had tiles, overlapping windows came with windows 2
- Kevin Marks
Just downloaded Streamboard on the new iPad. What should I track?
- Stephen Pickering
Ask Loic how the whole Microsloth thing worked out for him.
- Jerry Schuman
Just pick a hashtag, Stephean
- Francine Hardaway
Stephen: I watch the word "app" on it.
- Robert Scoble
what's funny is the vaunted Windows Vista is still used by more people than Ios android and Mac combinded
- Stephen M
But can't you switch back and forth between Metro and the older look
- Stephen Pickering
Consumer Windows is a whole different thing from corporate Windows.
- Frank Paynter
Is Windows 8 a consumer play?
- Frank Paynter
Oh well, then
- Francine Hardaway
is that like Angry Birds? It's the pigs who live in glass houses
- Kevin Marks
Cognitive dissonance: realtime content, yet shift to asynchronous programming.
- clive boulton
This Streamboard is too cool!
- Stephen Pickering
Hey Steve, I'm doing a backbend over my fit ball. If you had me on, your audience could see:-)
- Francine Hardaway
@Robert: Rovio just updated their announcement: http://reut.rs/GViFlk
- Nir Ben Yona
Like Android tablets have taken off
- Stephen M
Rovio's HQ is in the same office park as NOK's. If NOK can't get a Windows 8 deal done, you know it's a different world altogether
- Johnny C
well, Kindle and Nook do OK
- Kevin Marks
Corporate IT has had a hard time keeping up with migrations to each new generation of Microsoft ...
- Frank Paynter
Android is fragmentation hell and it's only just begun.
- Jerry Schuman
Angry birds isn't even a good touch app
- Stephen M
Excel is still a good spreadsheet
- Frank Paynter
Microsoft has been paying developers for everything for quite some time now. Wholesale defection off the platforms.
- Jerry Schuman
Outlook 15 has social built in
- Stephen M
Why do you think Ozzie bailed out?
- Jerry Schuman
the microsoft office is still good but Google docs is free and you can pass it around easily
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Good points Robert!
- Frank Paynter
Office web apps are free
- Stephen M
What about MSFT's Facebook relationship?
- Stephen Pickering
microsoft office is creaky as heck. I used to be a huge Word jockey, and I can't make it do anything anymore
- Kevin Marks
I use Google docs and spreadsheets because of collaboration
- Francine Hardaway
Kevin I can't even find the menus to do the things I used to do
- Francine Hardaway
New disruptive systems that are currently being developed in the BI space is going to finally kill off spreadsheet mentality. Pair good cloud based BI with an intuitive iPad interface and backed by things like Wolfram Alpha = game over.
- Jerry Schuman
in more important news, Justin Bieber is releasing a new single next week :)
- Stephen M
big data systems will lead the way regarding data interaction in the post-pc era
- Jerry Schuman
What is Dan Farber going to do now?
- Francine Hardaway
Man's ability to create a pair of wings for self propelled flight is DEAD
- Jerry Schuman
Agreed. Cnet and even ZDnet
- Nir Ben Yona
Jerrry: big data systems - right on
- clive boulton
I think Les Moonves would be a good interview dan..get his take on the web and stuff
- Stephen M
Happy to see Dan Farber back at CNET
- Francine Hardaway
Why is there no CBS app like there is an ABC and NBC?
- Stephen Pickering
Stephen: it won't matter soon.
- Robert Scoble
CBS want's u to purchase the show on itunes
- Stephen M
BTW you can use the TV.com app to watch some of the CBS shows..its not the best quality, its an iphone app that is expanded
- Stephen M
Ah thanks Namesake!
- Stephen Pickering
YouTube live account fails on my Chromebook, feels like needs Sandybridge / Nvidia processor
- clive boulton
no prob
- Stephen M
I have a plug...
- Kevin Marks
Give that man a better Tricaster please!
- Alex de Soto
I think its weird that CBS doesn't even let you stream their shows from their website using an ipad...they only have clips
- Stephen M
It's caused me to lose interest in 2.5 Men
- Stephen Pickering
anyone free this weekend? https://www.facebook.com/events... https://www.facebook.com/events...
- Kevin Marks
I can't believe you don't get a response from the universe from saying that
- Francine Hardaway
oo, i just checked out the tv.com app again.. they've increased the video quality
- Stephen M
Tricaster HD or YouTube live hangouts - TBD
- clive boulton
if you don't provide a better unit, negative gestures will ensue
- Jerome Hughes
thanks to allllllll! Wonderful day... great show
- Tina Chase Gillmor
looking forward to catching the first part as got here later
- Jerome Hughes
Did anyone notice that Amazon formed a studio and is testing a movie on Prime - http://amzn.to/GJKtuk
- John Taschek
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Hello Gang and Chat Gang!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Let's see, should I use Steve Gillmor's iPad? :-)
- Robert Scoble
you would touch it, Robert?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Nah, I still haven't taken it out of the case. I took mine out, though. I'm using it on this call.
- Robert Scoble
ok calling up. Please tweet show!!!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
My iPad is now fully functional!
- John Taschek
Who is on today?
- John Taschek
Stop showing off John!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
My iPad can't get its apps downloaded
- Francine Hardaway
Ooooo, Francine has a new iPad?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
standby Folks. We are getting KEvin back on
- Tina Chase Gillmor
hm, skype just launched and then quit
- Kevin Marks
here we go
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Hey guys. Happy iPad day!
- Nir Ben Yona
I haven't ordered one, should I?
- Kevin Marks
john tripped the 5 minute funny loop
- Kevin Marks
beautiful Steve...
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Not till they straighten out the app store download issues
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
Killer? Everyone can see you ?
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
Tailor made for Scoble!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I do that. I scroll thru Scoble's contacts
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
Until they bury me
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
there was a custom made one for scoble last SXSW http://www.isscobleinthisroom.com/
- Kevin Marks
Steve looks fetching today... don't you think?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Klik (by Face.com)
- Nir Ben Yona
"We last saw Scoble 136km away from you, 8 hours ago." Phew. We're safe.
- Alex de Soto
oh, great... where our house is?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
this show sounds nasty today
- Tina Chase Gillmor
robert's mic is less good than usual
- Kevin Marks
systems like this would be invaluable at places like trade shows.
- Jerry Schuman
Im gettin a little tired of Foursquare
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I go to Home Depot a LOT. You wouldn't want to know how many times
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I liked foursquare last week when all my friends did sxsw tips of mine
- Kevin Marks
There were too many of these services to gain critical mass and break out at SxSW. Everyone I talked to about social discovery apps at the event laughed and said they weren't using them.
- Evan Prodromou
Think about extending the system to support brands. You get within 100 yards of a geo-fenced brand location and it sends you collateral etc...
- Jerry Schuman
a drinking two shot.... I never did that before
- Tina Chase Gillmor
a well distributed scraping swarm of compromised mobile devices
- Jerome Hughes
really.. this isn't a Leo Laporte produced show... schedule? what the hell is that...
- Jerry Schuman
I don't know whether I will use a social discovery app; I might not want to be interruprted by someone who is 100 yards from me and wants to chat
- Francine Hardaway
http://hipswitch.com/ <-- somebody's got it
- Evan Prodromou
Highlight ("Hipswitch") would be overwhelming in high population density locations like Manhattan or D.C. Less so in a place like Alaska, unless moose start using social networks.
- Alex de Soto
If that happens and brands start to send me collateral I will scream, Jerry
- Francine Hardaway
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... <-- I assume Steve's thinking about this town
- Evan Prodromou
foursquare gives you the choice
- Kevin Marks
day after #cloudstock feeling slightly tender (long day, longer night)
- clive boulton
Francine: you're wrong about that. Highlight was used by a LOT of people at SXSW. You only need a small percentage to make it useful.
- Robert Scoble
francine can't be wrong about herself, robert
- Kevin Marks
Ping...
- Jerry Schuman
I bet they'll take longer than Vic Gundotra
- Kevin Marks
And #SXSW isn't the ordinary use case
- Francine Hardaway
so the government doesnt have to be Big Brother... we do it for them... perfect!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Or even Phoenix
- Francine Hardaway
Dodgeball too
- Kevin Marks
And he took a J.O.B.
- Francine Hardaway
New iPad
- Francine Hardaway
Fake coverage of Foxconn.
- Nir Ben Yona
On This American Life
- Francine Hardaway
cant keep Scoble's audio up
- Tina Chase Gillmor
TweetMap on Android from Staircase 3. map of local tweets, I like
- Da
Is anyone else annoyed with the new @YouTube layout? Moderator removed :(
- clive boulton
" just opening up an API would pollute the stream"
- Kevin Marks
I have a blog post about why Google+ has no posting API: http://evanprodromou.name/2011... . tl;dr they require that you be _present_ in order to post, to keep the quality of the conversation high. Lesson learned from Buzz.
- Evan Prodromou
I love the conversations on Google+. I am meeting new people and getting comments, and seeing/reading my friends.
- Francine Hardaway
YouTube designers seemingly removed social engagement... perhaps G+ will be back-fitted...
- clive boulton
+evan prodromou, that's good to know.
- Francine Hardaway
lesson mis-learned from buzz
- Kevin Marks
StatusNet!
- Evan Prodromou
Facebook is my public network- there's people on my FB that I wished I didn't add, but now I "can't" remove. G+ is my private network with people I'm close to.
- Da
Da: why can't you remove them? I removed thousands over the years from Facebook.
- Robert Scoble
the drama would be huge if I removed then, ie my annoying uncle for example
- Da
two Kevins!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
LOL Kevin
- Jerome Hughes
Da: ok, there are other ways to hide those folks, then. Mark them as an acquaintance, for instance.
- Robert Scoble
Google does not pay attention to detail and they dont listen
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Hey fellas
- Rocky Barbanica
Robert's social neutered YT layout http://www.youtube.com/user...
- clive boulton
See ya, Robert
- Rocky Barbanica
So my uncle's daughter, my kinda favorite cousin, will see posts intended for her but not him. He'll eventually find out / hear about it., bla bla bla- it's a mess. Better to just start over with a new network
- Da
12
- Rocky Barbanica
I don't see the point in getting the LTE version. 5GB? That's one HD movie!
- Stephen Pickering
I think I'm back now.
- Robert Scoble
Google+ is awesome... this just came across my stream.
- Jerry Schuman
'KONY 2012' HONCHO JASON RUSSELL Detained for Allegedly Masturbating in Public
- Jerry Schuman
famous last words
- Rocky Barbanica
Loren Feldman is having a field day
- Jerry Schuman
that's been on twitter for 30 minutes, Jerry. It's trending
- Kevin Marks
and it's free there, though not on iPhone
- Jerome Hughes
I've been distracted...
- Jerry Schuman
and waved his camera around
- Jerome Hughes
and it ..........
- Rocky Barbanica
the good news is…
- Jerome Hughes
who's going to go register http://hipswit.ch ?
- Kevin Marks
Scobleizer, frozen like a Rodin sculpture.
- clive boulton
LOL
- Rocky Barbanica
I have the Verizon Galaxy Nexus, 4G grandfathered to unlimited is awesome, Netflix in my pocket is the best
- Da
Hey Steve - Tina
- Rocky Barbanica
hey Rocky
- Tina Chase Gillmor
What about apps that don't support the new Retina display? Heard they look bad.
- Nir Ben Yona
iPad is great like the Model T Ford is great - any color, as long as you get black. Got an Android Asus EEE Slider tablet because it has a slider keyboard. Can't get that choice from Apple, so they don't get my business.
- Kevin Bryan
Where is Google's flagship Tablet, ...Nexus gOne...
- clive boulton
Keeping my iPad1 from hearing all this chatter about the new iPad...could cause domestic issues
- Jim Posner
Benchmark results are great, compared to ASUS Transformer Prime http://aol.it/yHGTb7
- Nir Ben Yona
have you gor readability on it yet?
- Kevin Marks
Does it say hotspot?
- Rocky Barbanica
only on Verizon... does he have Verizon?
- Jerry Schuman
I have a verizon hotspot already
- Kevin Marks
it'd be nice to have one with an iPad's battery life though
- Kevin Marks
Switchcam and WeVideo
- Rocky Barbanica
does this work on new iPad yet? http://sunglass.io/#democanvas
- Kevin Marks
WeVideo rocks
- Rocky Barbanica
saw a case for Air this week that looks like a vintage book
- Jerome Hughes
Windows + Steam means the PC will not die any time soon at all. Too much investment from gamers in their rigs.
- Kevin Bryan
Drift: an iPad app for GitHub https://github.com/blog...
- clive boulton
Jon Taschek go to general/network/personalhotspot and then turn on over wifi
- Francine Hardaway
Can't wait for it to die
- Francine Hardaway
Thank you, Francine!
- John Taschek
not quite understanding that death & dying thing
- Jerome Hughes
Need Github to not carry MBP
- clive boulton
Some folks like the larger real estate of the PC screen
- Jim Posner
Have an AIR, but now have a Stylus for new iPad so won't need to carry Air
- Francine Hardaway
wow, FriendFeed is still up?
- Jamie
What's it called, Kevin?
- Rocky Barbanica
Use a mirroring display with your iPad. I do that at Gangplank
- Francine Hardaway
Fake it with your fingers?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
euphemisms
- Jerome Hughes
Hi Rocky. Love you. You come to Phoenix with Robert and use our video studio!
- Francine Hardaway
Love u too, Francine! ALWAYS
- Rocky Barbanica
Francine saves the day.....
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Yes, Tina. And I'm a grandmother, too. Everyone puts us mature people down, but we know shit
- Francine Hardaway
upsells for logic pro
- Jerome Hughes
who leapfrogs tablets forward next. Google, Microsoft, Apple...
- clive boulton
Damn, I did use up my first 2GBs of Verizon. Updated my account.
- Robert Scoble
cliveb … rhetorical?
- Jerome Hughes
strange how Samsung puts Apples displays together yet their consumer electronics arm cant come close to either the iPhone display or this..
- Jamie
Oakland-area VZW LTE doing great today
- Da
Robert, that is HILARIOUS!
- Francine Hardaway
Scobleizer frozy like Rodin c/o LTE
- clive boulton
with extra dropouts!
- Jerome Hughes
OMG!
- Francine Hardaway
Damn! Looks like Tweetbot guys were right.
- Nir Ben Yona
@jerome black swan!
- clive boulton
15 GB of VZW LTE for February on my GNex
- Da
marketing ploy
- Rocky Barbanica
kevin it says my browser doesnt support it when i try with the ipad
- Jamie
Yahoo? Patents? Facebook? Did they get covered?
- Evan Prodromou
no, didn't mention those - we should
- Kevin Marks
nothing too demanding
- Jerome Hughes
this was the funniest situation. Think how the non technical people feel about all this!
- Francine Hardaway
maybe we can cover patents next week
- Kevin Marks
the issue isn't going away
- Kevin Marks
I'd love to hear about patents next week as well.
- Kevin Bryan
npimh Lene Lovich
- Jerome Hughes
Good to see you back Kevin
- Francine Hardaway
Great show, though!
- Evan Prodromou
it was fun
- nchenga
Oh my Gosh... fun show
- Tina Chase Gillmor
cya
- Nir Ben Yona
+1 "maybe we can cover patents next week - Kevin Marks"
- clive boulton
thanks francine
- Kevin Marks
np on 12" vinyl… New Toy
- Jerome Hughes
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- Robert Scoble
I think I have a feeling about the theme for today's show.
- Robert Scoble
:-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert, you forgot iPad. :P
- Jimminy IS Everybody
Jimminy: Apple covers both iPad and Apple TV.
- Robert Scoble
The old adventures of new iPad.
- Eric - seven eleven
We are trying to get everyone online. I'm on.
- Robert Scoble
Has anyone heard about a new iPad? Can't remember the name ;)
- Nir Ben Yona
Nir: yeah, the name is wacky.
- Robert Scoble
Sooo strange. There must be a reason for that.
- Nir Ben Yona
I know Steve will tell me why Im wrong but it just seems like an iPad, no? The New Apps are nice but not selling me to go out and buy one or feel bad I bought a 2 in Sept last year! Why am I wrong?
- Phillip Molly Malone
Discussion point: Lack of killer feature (I don't see display as killer) give Android Tablets a chance to catch up!
- Phillip Molly Malone
The HD display is definitely a game changer.
- Nir Ben Yona
the IOS 5.1 update changes the logo to 4G
- Jerry Schuman
oh dear God
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Oh, crud. I accidentally hung up
- Robert Scoble
Danny is correct...
- Jerry Schuman
:-)
- Robert Scoble
Correct... their marketing calls HSDPA+ a 4G connection
- Jerry Schuman
So what can you do on HD iPad I can't do on iPad 2 without crippling the software the way Apple have with Siri? By the way, if you answer with anything, doesn't that mean that Apple just caused Fragmentation in the iPad community? Or is now that choice! (yes, that is an Android/Apple/Koolaide jibe)
- Phillip Molly Malone
Oh, the Apple TV dropped the ball not having Apps! This is the year of Google TV baby! (I hope ;-) )
- Phillip Molly Malone
BTW the guys over at The Verge are saying the European version has LTE support. http://vrge.co/zeNYgh
- Nir Ben Yona
iPad as a consumable
- Jerry Schuman
Philip: you're wrong. AirPlay is the killer app.
- Robert Scoble
Agree with Rober that Airplay is the killer app.
- Jerry Schuman
3.1 million pixels
- Nir Ben Yona
AirPlay is a great and I may get it but as someone said, its just an adapter! Was thinking that I only use my PC upstairs as a TV now (Media Center). I would replace PC with Google TV! Apps overlaying TV killer. I want a Fantasy AFL app to overlay the Football coverage!
- Phillip Molly Malone
Print to PDF is the New Printer!
- Phillip Molly Malone
iPhoto for iPad is pretty impressive, isn't that a killer app as well ?
- Euro Maestro
Go on John, Get a funny engraving!
- Phillip Molly Malone
the thing I noticed the most on this announcement was that I never heard the phrase "reality distortion field" once in the twitterverse
- Jerry Schuman
iPhoto looks great but I get that on the iPad 2, right?
- Phillip Molly Malone
Just updated my existing Apple TV. Interface changes applied. Dictation available on the iPhone 4s not on the iPad2 (boo!)must need a new chip. Will test Downton Abbey stream to the iPad2 from iTunes later tonight.
- Alex de Soto
I am not saying the New iPad isn't great, it is. But it isn't making me sad I got a iPad 2 in September. I would have hated myself if I got an iPad 1 in September before the iPad 2 was released!
- Phillip Molly Malone
If you're buying a new iPad, I'd recommend the 64GB WiFi model so you can shoot video and edit aplenty.
- Alex de Soto
Speaking of iPads, does any one know if there is a way to watch or listen to this from an iPad ?
- Euro Maestro
@euro isn't there a uStream app?
- Phillip Molly Malone
I didn't get an iPad 2, so upgrading from a iPad 1 to an iPad 3 is a big speed upgrade.
- Phil Windley
9 hours on 4G :)
- Nir Ben Yona
steve makes me get the upgrades whether I like it or not
- Tina Chase Gillmor
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- Ben Kepes
GarageBand is the number one reason to upgrade.
- John Taschek
haha. Thats crap Robert! What Ben said!
- Phillip Molly Malone
Boys boys boys “Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.”
- Ben Kepes
Who cares what the book looks like, you should be listening to it on Audible anyway!
- Phillip Molly Malone
iPad envy.
- Alex de Soto
So we are going to see iPad Fragmenation Robert?
- Phillip Molly Malone
Flifboard? I thought they were in the deadpool already.... Oh maybe that was cuil.... whatevers...
- Ben Kepes
Philiip: yes. Ben: Flipboard is the best app for iPad and Apple named it app of the year in 2010.
- Robert Scoble
agree about the high resolution screen, going on how much I love it on the phone.
- Hilary Talbot
I want to know what the audio components are --- the iPad has been only slightly above average so far.
- John Taschek
yeah yeah yeah/.// someone put koolaide in your coffee ;-)
- Ben Kepes
Tweetbot just tweeted a very interesting thing: "With 4G speeds you can theoretically hit your monthly limit in ~30 secs for the $15 plan and about 10 minutes for the $50 plan."
- Nir Ben Yona
what?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Nir: I never hit my 3G limit even with the kids watching YouTube videos. I guess we'll see.
- Robert Scoble
The ability to edit (trash photos) from the Photo Stream is one of the best features in iOS 5.1. That was one of the most frustrating things about the iCloud.
- Alex de Soto
Definitely worth looking at.
- Nir Ben Yona
Hey Scoble - Graham Weston is on Glancee as well
- Ben Kepes
If you think the NY times has an issue with the Google Privacy Policy, what are the going to say about Highlight?
- Phillip Molly Malone
Android apps a almost always distant, dim relations to what is found on iPhone.
- Phil Windley
yeah I'm here John
- Ben Kepes
Android has a killer app now iOS doesn't: Chrome! That this is pretty! (tongue slightly in my cheek)
- Phillip Molly Malone
I love Danny!
- Phillip Molly Malone
I think old Windows users tend to look for an alternative to Apple just because. Android has taken Microsoft's spot as the yang to Apple's ying.
- Alex de Soto
You can do screen shots on the iPad and then edit in iPhoto.
- Alex de Soto
I could use my iPad to swat flies but doesn't mean its easy or a good idea! (unless there is an App for that I don't know about)
- Phillip Molly Malone
Hooking up a projector to the iPad makes presentations a breeze. No need to cart around a laptop.
- Alex de Soto
Can't believe there hasn't been a rant about the naming convention for "the new" iPad
- Jerry Schuman
There wasn't much to the iPad to talk about!
- Phillip Molly Malone
The Verge got a DDos attack during the keynote event.
- Nir Ben Yona
Twitter continued to serve up tweets about the event at a much greater rate that the live blogs. Scale.
- Phil Windley
As an Aussie, it makes me sad that your talking about Netflix! :(
- Phillip Molly Malone
Hey - as a Kiwi I can't get Netflix either....
- Ben Kepes
Apple is already rolling out Retina Display apps. iTunes U and Keynote just got the updates.
- Jerry Schuman
Airplay and 1080P are the two reasons I'm getting a second AppleTV for the living room.
- Alex de Soto
But didn't the old AppleTV already have AirPlay?
- Phillip Molly Malone
Phillip: yes.
- Robert Scoble
Phillip: Yes it does but it does not handle 1080P as far as I can tell.
- Alex de Soto
My original AppleTV has Airplay.. not the little black box one
- Jerry Schuman
Don't need content deals, GoogleTV hookes into your HDMI cable box!
- Phillip Molly Malone
Add overlay apps that that and you got something!
- Phillip Molly Malone
size matters?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Google TV is due for a comeback.
- Vezquex
Downton Abbey Season 2 is only available on iTunes no?
- Alex de Soto
I don't think most of the world has the amount of online TV content that the US has. I know Australia doesn't! Apps and Websites!
- Phillip Molly Malone
Roku is on the clearance rack at my local Walmart
- Jerry Schuman
Other than on Blu-ray, where else can one stream 1080P?
- Alex de Soto
Can you call back? Sorry.
- Robert Scoble
Haha... John is rocking back and forward like he just wants the voices in his head to stop! ;-)
- Phillip Molly Malone
@Alex - my TV streams 1080p all the time Free over the air! ;-)
- Phillip Molly Malone
Hulu+ has an app on iPad! So what's the issue?
- Jerry Schuman
Sorry, I think I got a good connection again. Tina, can you call me back?
- Robert Scoble
working on it Robert
- Tina Chase Gillmor
over the air is 1080i
- Vezquex
ahhh Robert is back
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'd like to move where Phillip lives as 1080p is not available over the air where I live. It's more like 1080i60 encoded with MPEG-2.
- Alex de Soto
Hey Danny, Why did no one mention @ based searches in Google showing Twitter first change? (or am I just in a special search experiment group)?
- Phillip Molly Malone
gray the studio cat is throwing himself against the door!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Google doesn't need regular TV shows. They run YouTube!
- Vezquex
Okay.It might not be 1080p but its good enough!
- Phillip Molly Malone
Vezquex. Exactly.
- Robert Scoble
So who is causing that reaction from Gray?
- Phillip Molly Malone
No Robert didn't! He said everybody had Apple TVs!
- Phillip Molly Malone
I think most people learn about and buy Roku from its partnetship with Netflix. Don't have one but my brother and parents have it and love it for Netflix.
- Amyloo
Gray is a very social cat. When he hears voices he gets excited and wants to hang out
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Apple is about an "experience", hardware is the means to end. It is what separates Apple from everyone else.
- Jerry Schuman
Tina, I have a voice-activated cat, too. She goes especially nuts if anybody dares to sing!
- Amyloo
Oh, I thought he wanted out of this conversation in the worst way in much the say way John looked like he wanted out a few minutes ago!
- Phillip Molly Malone
amy - funny
- Tina Chase Gillmor
One of our cat will continue to stand in front of my monitor until I feed her in the morning!
- Phillip Molly Malone
Apple’s press conference showed a brand unraveling - http://venturebeat.com/2012...
- Phillip Molly Malone
Danny and Scoble really make this show a scream!
- Alex de Soto
By the way, that wasn't me agreeing with that article just thought it might interest this crowd!
- Phillip Molly Malone
quit losing your damn remotes
- Vezquex
Vezquex: you obviously don't have young kids if you say that. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Apple needs an App called "Find My Remote."
- Alex de Soto
Maybe the coming soon is TV content network?
- Amyloo
Apple TV flatscreen will appear this year. iPhone 5 will see the light of day by the end of the year. Full refresh on Macbook and desktop lines..
- Jerry Schuman
Amen Robert and Alex! Its called iPod Touch as remote! Our "cable style box" has iPod based remote and that works for everything except turning the dam thing on and there is no on button! D'oh!
- Phillip Molly Malone
That isn't the point... I can access the content. I can even display it on the 50" tv via AirPlay. I don't get the point.
- Jerry Schuman
That was perfect "The role of flash..."
- Phil Windley
People have jailbroken the AppleTV to play Hulu: http://www.google.com/url...
- Alex de Soto
Nobody cares about broadcast television. That's the real truth.
- Jerry Schuman
I don't get it, there's an hulu app for ipad and you can airplay it on TV http://bit.ly/cDtQjH
- Nir Ben Yona
Apple buys Roku. End of argument. Just to put them out of their misery Robert.
- Alex de Soto
You can watch TED on Roku
- Tracy Sheridan
i think John Taschek has fallen asleep with his eyes open.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Apple wanted higher margins than Hulu would allow.
- Vezquex
I love this! Thanks guys.
- Teri Temme
just checked my blood pressure. Thankfully, I can keep watching.
- Jerry Schuman
HBO GO and Cinemax apps do not work with Apple TV including airplay.
- Ryan
Oh well. Have to go. Wife is fixing some green mango thai salad and i"m starved (EST).
- Alex de Soto
Alex: my battery is almost dead. See ya!
- Robert Scoble
Watching the show live via airplay on TV!
- Ryan
Ryan: exactly!
- Robert Scoble
But I can't watch Game of Thrones. They need to make those deals soon.
- Ryan
Funny fact: TED has given all 2012 speakers a Roku device as a gift :)
- Nir Ben Yona
Nir: cool. When I went to TED they gave me a Android phone.
- Robert Scoble
:-)
- Nir Ben Yona
Who remembers Jason's parodies of Steve's ad pitches?
- Ryan
Great show. Until next time!
- Nir Ben Yona
thanks everyone... how fun... the chatroom always makes it great
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Ryan, I remember
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Ha trying to find my apple tv remote...funny enough!
- Ryan
Thanks Tina, so many good times listening/watching the Gillmor Gang.
- Ryan
Downloading an Apple TV update. Anyone know whether it includes the new GUI?
- Ryan
Looks like that is the case from what I'm reading on engadget.
- Ryan
again thanks everyone
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Keep heart Danny...
- Todd Hoff
Gillmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PT participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim...
Hilary Talbot, Aron Michalski, Cathryn Hrudicka and 5 other people liked this
Hello
- Kenny
So who's on the show today?
- Kenny
Me.
- Robert Scoble
Robert - starting soon?
- Kenny
I haven't been called in yet. Hopefully soon.
- Robert Scoble
standing by
- Kevin Marks
any plans to try to do a show via G+ hangouts?
- Kenny
Just in time for my lunch break. Thanks! :-)
- Darius Dunlap
Heya all :)
- Nir Ben Yona
Shortly starting.
- Robert Scoble
Kenny we are working on that plan
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Tina - that'll be cool to see how it works!
- Kenny
Aren't the best show's when Steve's in a bad mood? ;-)
- Darius Dunlap
Darius: yes.
- Robert Scoble
hmmm
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Like to hear more about your 3D camera Robert and how good the image quality is
- Jim Posner
The quality is really awesome.
- Robert Scoble
do you watch most footage on a large screen hdtv or a computer monitor?
- Jim Posner
did anyone see that coolie monster cartoon?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
who cares?
- Jerry Schuman
G+ adds brands - the hunger games https://plus.google.com/u...
- clive boulton
that pop screen worked really well in the previous configuration
- Jerry Schuman
Privacy is the joke of jokes and has been for a very long time
- Jerry Schuman
He lives in public
- Jim Posner
It's Apples answer to Google fragmentation. Defragmentation of all platforms apps and UI
- Jerry Schuman
Gizmodo says the new OS is the End Of Mac http://gizmo.do/wDRgjn
- Nir Ben Yona
frictionless screen transitions
- Jim Posner
robert would care about privacy if it involved his kids
- Tina Chase Gillmor
i think amazon is a bigger threat to Apple then google is
- Kenny
the big one is messages and facetime. they need to live up to the original promise of opening it up
- Jerry Schuman
SMS and MMS destruction is imminent
- Jerry Schuman
And one more thing?......
- Arnie Klaus
will all the other tablet vendors always being playing catch-up with Apple?
- Jim Posner
RIMM is dead
- Jerry Schuman
Real transformation is from PC era tech to JavaScript (v8 nodejs)
- clive boulton
I am so freaking happy to be back on iPhone after almost a year on an HTC. Never again
- Jerry Schuman
I like android notifications
- Kevin Marks
XMPP
- Jerry Schuman
The only thing I would add, is that really all I use app wise on the iPhone is Facebook and Twitter. So if RIMM could produce some good hardware
- Stephen Pickering
yes.. it still is in Messages
- Jerry Schuman
correct.. the Jabber connection doesn't exist yet in the IOS device
- Jerry Schuman
Can I just say, linquica
- Jerry Schuman
the best
- Jerry Schuman
it's a klout smack-down diva dance-off
- Charlie Isaacs
can I still call XMPP jabber?
- Kevin Marks
insert sausage joke here
- Charlie Isaacs
Robert Scoble says Klout is corrupt?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
So I just went back to high school?
- Francine Hardaway
social network mavens always seem on to be on the hunt for new measurement platforms
- Jim Posner
Klout bought my friend's app, Blockboardapp today
- Francine Hardaway
I call this single score chasing 'Big Datum'
- Kevin Marks
cute, Kevin
- Francine Hardaway
Yup G+ single-player mode blows
- clive boulton
page views, followers, friends...like politicians going after voters
- Jim Posner
your start-up is more likely to be video taped by scoble than by obama
- Charlie Isaacs
Bit.ly????? I gave that up years ago
- Francine Hardaway
congrats francine
- Charlie Isaacs
The problem is if you work in Social Media you'll need a Klout score.."normal" people believe it..
- Yvi
I also don't get pinterest but it's HUGE in the fashion space.
- Jerry Schuman
Charlie, it didn't even raise my Klout score
- Francine Hardaway
On a different note: MacRumors confirms the iPad 3 has a 2048x1536 Retina Display http://bit.ly/AfZYAC
- Nir Ben Yona
I get pinterest; it's the new flickr
- Kevin Marks
So it won't last,Kevin?
- Francine Hardaway
G+ allowing some brand identities (none persons)
- clive boulton
only if yahoo buys it
- Kevin Marks
flickr's 8 yeras old this week
- Kevin Marks
Pent up demand from folks like me who have an iPad 1
- Stephen Pickering
my wife is so freaking swamped with enterprise apps designs, its mind boggling
- Jerry Schuman
People on G+ say Flickr is a graveyard
- Francine Hardaway
more screen real estate... HD with surrounding social data
- Jerry Schuman
and space left over
- Jerry Schuman
the Galaxy Touch looks nice
- Kevin Marks
flickr just sent me my renewal notice, i didn't renew...i was actually paying
- Charlie Isaacs
yep... all the enterprise apps have TONS of video and 3D animations
- Jerry Schuman
Jerry, I hope it doesnt keep her away from her painting
- Tina Chase Gillmor
GE has deployed over 24 apps in the past couple months.. all really intense graphically
- Jerry Schuman
do cable vendors support watching tv on a ipad?
- Jim Posner
painting? What's that. ;-(
- Jerry Schuman
Phillips made an app that takes your pulse and heart rate thru the camera by small skin flushes
- Francine Hardaway
those people on the plane are sucking up my bandwidth on gogoinflight -- they should outlaw video :)
- Charlie Isaacs
$900 bucks for looks better!! thanks , exactly. apple needs to finally step up thair game!
- Yvi
Nike just did their entire B2B catalog for their reps... also highly graphic with video.
- Jerry Schuman
Hulu Plus might upgrade video quality to fit iPad 3 display.
- Nir Ben Yona
How do you Apple in the tablet space? price?
- Jim Posner
the ipad2 is dead, ipad3 is an ipad killer
- Charlie Isaacs
it seems to be about "uh, I have the new one" look at the samsung tablets?! loved my galaxy
- Yvi
Seems vendors will need to double the features and halve the price to beat Apple
- Jim Posner
School Edition Lower Cost
- Arnie Klaus
Enterprise is going to send Apple into the stratosphere. They're dumping $$$$ into app development. Not android, not Microsloth... it's 98% Apple
- Jerry Schuman
School editions bulk purchase with teacher support tools
- Arnie Klaus
steve: you need to stick more pictures of your youngest daughter on the fridge; tina should get on that, then you will get pinterest
- Charlie Isaacs
Windows 8 tablets September (definite maybe)
- clive boulton
Scoble does NOT need to go tothese parties because he knws EXACTLY how it all goes down
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Robert - that's won't be enough to dump an iPad2 for a new iPad
- Kenny
they did iPad previews before: http://www.time.com/time...
- Kevin Marks
security is a must for enterprise market
- Jim Posner
disk encryption
- Jim Posner
In healthcare it is already taking over
- Francine Hardaway
productivity apps
- Arnie Klaus
Ok, time for Pizza...have a good weekend everyone!!
- Kenny
Ugh. Stream through ustream to iPad but the chat is here. Too much stuff on my fridge. Tv is the future. Losing me. NGL returns in spring?
- Aron Michalski
Private clouds for EMRs
- Francine Hardaway
better cloud integration
- Jim Posner
cloud integration must be seamless
- Jim Posner
Social BUSINESS
- Francine Hardaway
first foray for Enterprise has been primarily sales and sales support... brochures, annual reports, tech manuals etc...
- Jerry Schuman
ping
- Arnie Klaus
iPad as sales presentation tool is already there
- Kevin Marks
Jobs wanted to kill Android
- Francine Hardaway
just in time networking for proximate ipads would be killer for the ipad
- Jim Posner
iPad is also going to destroy the high end office desktop phone market...
- Jerry Schuman
Samsung is doing is on airplay "allshare"
- Yvi
they have the tech for that jim
- Kevin Marks
Ipad3 with sewage line option? No need for any silly interruptions.
- Aron Michalski
At least they just added the photo upload automatic
- Stephen Pickering
zeroconf bonjour
- Kevin Marks
Go play with the latest video enabled Bria app for iPad. VoIP and iPad match made in heaven
- Jerry Schuman
Kevin- ipad has just in time sharing for proximate ipads?
- Jim Posner
no, but it is an obvious OS feature for Apple to port
- Kevin Marks
What's Bria Jerry.?
- Francine Hardaway
Bria is a softphone from CounterPath.
- Jerry Schuman
iPad in education is probably bigger market than enterprise
- Jim Posner
Integrates with any VoIP platform
- Jerry Schuman
I will try it
- Francine Hardaway
scoble's son is so cute :)
- Charlie Isaacs
I should clarify any VoIP platform that isn't Skype ;-)
- Jerry Schuman
All of them are cute, Charlie
- Francine Hardaway
do I need to bring in the puppies?
- Kevin Marks
Facebook is one positive in MSFT's favor
- Stephen Pickering
when they turn 16 they are abducted by aliens
- Charlie Isaacs
Puppies?? Yes!
- Francine Hardaway
scoble's kid is posting t-rex pics on google+
- Charlie Isaacs
enterprise hang-outs would be useful
- Jim Posner
Spreecast is awesome
- Francine Hardaway
Makes social collaboration look like the Tricaster
- Francine Hardaway
watching more and more recorded hang-outs..well done they have lots of potential
- Jim Posner
It's unbelievable that things in the cloud aren't compatible across platforms
- Francine Hardaway
Charlie, IMO it happens way before 16
- Tina Chase Gillmor
the bigger issue is discovery, which I think Apple has conquered via the way they handle it in messages. Finding HOW to contact someone by an identifier has been a huge problem
- Jerry Schuman
haha tina
- Charlie Isaacs
"Open is for Losers." - Dave McClure
- Stephen Pickering
I love how the Corning Glass video was all about airplay
- Jerry Schuman
Open is for people who think beyond winning and losing - see Tim Berners-Lee's testimony in the Eolas case
- Kevin Marks
Media seems slow to embrace google plus hang-outs, seems like they could really leverage hang-outs
- Jim Posner
tv is not interactive much. Kids prefer interactive
- Tina Chase Gillmor
if that was Dave M then there was probably an F bomb in there
- Charlie Isaacs
I had a nightmare trying to sell this idea to Entertainment companies via Perssonas.
- Jerry Schuman
They just don't get it
- Jerry Schuman
But with Youtube they get free distribution and promotion
- Stephen Pickering
yes, I got a chunk of that from label people at future of music
- Kevin Marks
lots of mainstream media is being watched on tablets
- Jim Posner
but they see distribution as their business, Stephen
- Kevin Marks
Thunderbolt to HDMI
- Jerry Schuman
Thunderbolt is just DisplayPort...
- Jerry Schuman
Umm... I do all this on Google TV now.
- Bill Cooper
any displayport HDMI adapter will work
- Jerry Schuman
USB to HDMI? That is definitely not for average non-tech people.
- Stefano Moscetti
I can do it, Stefano, so iy must be easy
- Francine Hardaway
Talk about the Corning Day in Glass video
- Jerry Schuman
Anyone excited about Windows 8? and if so why?
- Jim Posner
It's not Safari, it's Chrome. I don't know anyone whoactually tests in Safari!
- Bill Cooper
How's that working for them?
- Jerry Schuman
The Corning Glass video is great -- did nothing for its stock price yet - http://bit.ly/z2YxQM
- John Taschek
Was talking to someone about W8 - they liked it, but said they wouldn't use it.
- John Taschek
It was completely obvious that Apple and Corning are collaborating at a very deep level
- Jerry Schuman
iOS Safari, Bill
- Kevin Marks
Corning makes Gorilla Glass
- Jerry Schuman
Kids tablet using Airplay to push interfaces to her closet door of glass
- Jerry Schuman
What about discussing Microsoft and the XBOX? They are pushing a lot to bring Live TV and Video on Demand on their console.
- Stefano Moscetti
You think Corning will make the Superconductors and Carbon Nano tube type stuff that will grow the future?
- Stephen Pickering
the dashboard of the car
- Jerry Schuman
I want to open my curtain by waving my hand
- Tina Chase Gillmor
watch the PR version of that video if you're interested
- Jerry Schuman
interesting video
- Jim Posner
closet door mirror becomes todo list
- Arnie Klaus
yes we can Steve
- Tina Chase Gillmor
there's the link
- Jerry Schuman
that will end human interaction forever
- Francine Hardaway
Steve does his Stevie Wonder impression lol
- Tina Chase Gillmor
heads-up display fighter jets
- Arnie Klaus
GM was demonstrating passenger windows that displayed outside views from other cars around the world
- Jerry Schuman
those glasses exist. It's called the Quantum Wave Function, heheheh
- Stephen Pickering
window 8 is going to have a huge install base
- Jim Posner
wait till you see the performance on the A6... you will be blown away
- Jerry Schuman
thinkpad w520 is a awesome windows platform
- Jim Posner
They've even gotten better
- Stephen Pickering
the other thing ushered in with Mountain Lion is a consistent 1 year release cycle
- Jerry Schuman
Apple should figure out how to manufacture in the USA
- Tina Chase Gillmor
The Steve Jobs way is simply "Make it an Art" instead of a business, right?
- Stephen Pickering
only $20 dollars is spent per IOS device overseas...
- Jerry Schuman
Apple will get disrupted, evolution works that way
- Jim Posner
Jim - I have a Thinkpad X220 with SSD i7 - very nice.
- John Taschek
for manufacturing
- Jerry Schuman
Works for Fender
- Stephen Pickering
I had an idea for that Tina: http://epeus.blogspot.com/2012...
- Kevin Marks
x220 is a solid box as well
- Jim Posner
Apple's high paying jobs are all here in the USA
- Jerry Schuman
You can get a Mexican Strat or an American Strat
- Stephen Pickering
One World
- Arnie Klaus
there was just a report done out of Stanford about Apple and the amount of money per device. Look it up
- Jerry Schuman
Look that can have a smaller profit margin
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Assembly in the back of the store
- Arnie Klaus
IOS devices are primarily made by AMERICANS
- Jerry Schuman
working condition tax may be a good idea
- Jim Posner
NIKEiD sell for premium http://nikeid.nike.com/nikeid...
- clive boulton
Teslas are made in the United States
- Kevin Marks
Apple could do more here
- Tina Chase Gillmor
we can send man to the moon but not make an affordable iPad...come on
- Jim Posner
The most popular car in Chongqing China is a black Buick.
- Stephen Pickering
Chinese Love American Products
- Stephen Pickering
we need to keep some manufacturiong here. we need all levels of jobs
- Tina Chase Gillmor
actually, Jim, we can't send a man to the moon any more. Though Elon Musk may be able to soon
- Kevin Marks
Artisanal production here makes sense.
- Kevin Marks
agreed...we need a manufacturing base restoration in the US, no matter what it costs
- Jim Posner
Can we even send a satellite into space at this point?
- Bill Cooper
I cut to Scoble when Steve said alcohol just cuz' he,he
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Romney wants a 25% Tariff on China which would kill the US economy. It's unreal
- Stephen Pickering
jobs leave and jobs can come back..they are fungible based upon economic realites
- Jim Posner
we need to manufacure more. we should not give up
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Yeah, but with these tools, why do think only Americans can make good movies?
- Stephen Pickering
Tina: China Airlines buys Boeing Airplanes.
- Robert Scoble
the defeatism that "these jobs are never coming back" puts us at a competitive disadvantage
- Jim Posner
More importantly, Apple has created jobs in the United States. In 2006, before the iPhone was even on the market Apple as a company had less than 18,000 employees. In 2010, according to the NYT, Apple had 63,000 employees, with 43,000 in the United States. Even if we assume that all of its 2006 employees were in the US (they weren’t) Apple has created more than 25,000 jobs in the US. To...
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- Jerry Schuman
Jim: sorry, they are never coming back. Just visit China and see for yourself.
- Robert Scoble
different jobs, more artisanal. think couture iPad
- Kevin Marks
There are 20k health care apps in the app store
- Francine Hardaway
I talk about it every day.
- Francine Hardaway
social cohesion requires that we have manufacturing jobs in the US
- Jim Posner
Tina Gillmor for US trade rep. yes we can mfg (here)
- clive boulton
Kraemer at al. (2011, here in PDF), by researchers at California-Irvine, Berkeley and Syracuse who have studied Apple’s supply chains, first for the iPod and then the iPhone and iPad, conclude: Those who decry the decline of U.S. manufacturing too often point at the offshoring of assembly for electronics goods like the iPhone. Our analysis here and elsewhere makes clear that there is...
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- Jerry Schuman
we cant treat you... I am seeing that on my Ipad3
- Pedro Salgueiro
cut off the spigot from China and the jobs will come back
- Jim Posner
Jim: you do that and everyone in Cupertino gets laid off. That would be suicide.
- Robert Scoble
we are talking about luxury goods Robert
- Jim Posner
China has $1T of US treasuries -- we're not cutting off the spigot any time soon.
- John Taschek
Link to the study from UCI cited above: http://pcic.merage.uci.edu/papers...
- Jerry Schuman
Jim: sorry, you do that and you kill the whole market. Very clueless economic ideas.
- Robert Scoble
John, it seems like Romney wants to. I don't know why though
- Stephen Pickering
We are interdependent economies. Get used to it
- Francine Hardaway
John: exactly.
- Robert Scoble
This has been a wonderful chat room today.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
There needs to be more US manufacturing for the long term sustainability of the US economy..not really mindless
- Jim Posner
Good to "see" you Tina
- Francine Hardaway
Why do people think there should be equal trade between China and the US when our Economy is 12x the size of theirs?
- Stephen Pickering
Jim: and how do you make that happen? It's not easy in a global world.
- Robert Scoble
Boeing and GM are making it happen..Apple can as well
- Jim Posner
aw thanks Francine
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I would be willing to spend more for an iPad3 that has a "made in the USA" label on it, that is identical to and coexists alongside a Chinese made iPad3.
- Herb Halstead
Jim: absolutely wrong. Two different kinds of manufacturing. And even Beoing planes are largely made in China. So are GM cars.
- Robert Scoble
ipad is pure entertainment :) you are right!
- Pedro Salgueiro
Create tax incentives for the iPad to be made in the US..not rocket science
- Jim Posner
Herb: yes, and are you willing to double the price? That's what it would take.
- Robert Scoble
2004
- Jerry Schuman
Jim: not enough tax incentives to do that. It's IMPOSSIBLE to build that here. The Chinese factories hire 200,000 people to build Apple devices.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: that price point is conjecture. I've read the same articles and seen the same reports... by the way, isn;t Apple putting some manufacturing in Brazil?
- Herb Halstead
The US has the largest economy in the World. The way it got there was through a free market and not telling people where they "should" make things
- Stephen Pickering
And those factories WILL NOT be able to keep up with worldwide demand. Remember, China went from $1 billion to $20 billion in THREE YEARS for Apple revenues. They will triple again in next three years.
- Robert Scoble
Big-time support for Node.js http://bit.ly/xS6X8D
- clive boulton
I close my eyes when I ma listen to you guys :P ;)
- Pedro Salgueiro
we did the first video shows 4 years ago....
- Jerry Schuman
Thats my point about luxury robert. try 5x the price
- Kevin Marks
I am not suggesting abandoning the chinese mfr, just adding a us factory
- Herb Halstead
have to go back and look at the archives
- Jerry Schuman
Not impossible Robert..hard maybe..Again GM and Boeing does lots of manufacturing in the US..the US must not concede our manufacturing base to China
- Jim Posner
Jim: sorry, those days are over. It's harsh, I know, but it's over.
- Robert Scoble
Well thanks everyone who showed up here and participated. You really move us along
- Tina Chase Gillmor
We agree to disagree...anyway I hope that you are wrong..Obama is going to be running on restarting US manufacturing and I hope he wins big...the future of a solid middle class depends on a strong manufacturing base..we need to make stuff again
- Jim Posner
Japan built their manufacturing in prelude to WWII in a matter of a decade, China built theirs in a matter of a decade. The US is not precluded from repeating that.
- Herb Halstead
baby steps http://www.huliq.com/13308...
- Jim Posner
exactly, remember that the policies in China that makes their current ability to manufacture at scale have only been in place since the mid 1990's
- Herb Halstead
Gillmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PDT participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim...
Nir Ben Yona, Laura Norvig, Robert Scoble and 2 other people liked this
well, I am recording in the town square in Redwood City. All the indoor places were noisier...
- Kevin Marks
ok Kevin
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'm at home. This will start shortly.
- Robert Scoble
*tapping foot*
- Laura Norvig
hello!
- Maciej Głuszek
Hi Laura and Maciej: we're trying to get started.
- Robert Scoble
Hey everyone!
- Nir Ben Yona
I am here and you can start now.
- imabonehead
hi there
- Kevin Marks
Welcome everyone.
- Robert Scoble
Greetings, y'all.
- Phil Gomes
Hi everyone. glad you're all here.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
what companies already have it?
- Laura Norvig
or if you read the Wall Street Journal
- Kevin Marks
Let's get some more Rackspace swag on the wall, Robert ;-)
- Jerry Schuman
scoble has blown his dunbar stack years ago
- Kevin Marks
Robert - good to see you. Safe travels to Paris. Send the family video mail while you're there via http://iphone.eyejot.com
- David Geller
Someone who looks like Scoble was wearing a tuxedo last night at the Rackspace party.
- Charlie Isaacs
I can never find where to choose "show me less" about a person.
- Laura Norvig
The Coca Cola page is owned by Pepsi haha jk
- Charlie Isaacs
ohhh, under Subscribed. Ugh. weird terminology.
- Laura Norvig
Hmm... Speaking of "filtering out..."
- Phil Gomes
guys, behave! ;)
- Maciej Głuszek
Interesting comments, brands on FaceBook is what you pay for the "Free" Service
- Daniel W. Crompton
Robert i'm looking at the top right corner and it's a Subaru ad -- he's not *totally* wrong
- Brian Hendrickson
Court date? Look at the background...
- Phil Gomes
Phil: Kevin Marks is in Redwood City for the geek event I'm hosting in a couple of hours.
- Robert Scoble
I "Like" some brands, music bands etc. And I click "dont show me anything from..." and I don't see this in my feed ever
- Maciej Głuszek
not seeing any packet loss when listening to you....
- Kevin Marks
I miss SV geek events ,though geek events here in the Windy City are quite awesome.
- Phil Gomes
So, Acquaintances is for people who don't have the balls to unfriend someone. Hmmm.
- Laura Norvig
but they are starting to surface tools in the stream itself for graph cleanup. That is what needs to happen so it's "in that moment" you can do it a piece at a time.
- Jerry Schuman
Sorry Kevin. Your feed breaks down a bit. We'll keep trying...talk fast!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Steve Gillmor they changed it from 50 to 150
- Brian Hendrickson
Sites need to have "Like", "Dislike" and "Damn With Faint Praise" buttons.
- Phil Gomes
This should be called "The Random Show" ;)
- Maciej Głuszek
hey man! you're violating your friends privacy :)
- john
definitely. If I want to use Facebook for my org, share to a specific page I manage, switch roles, etc., I can't do some of that fine-grained admin stuff well on mobile.
- Laura Norvig
Laura, very true
- Tina Chase Gillmor
bet you Balmer uses an iPad2 !!
- studentforce
studentforce: I seriously doubt that.
- Robert Scoble
US snail mail just arrived. That was loud!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I tend to agree with Robert on Facebook. I like it more now than ever.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Sounds like Perssonas. ;-)
- Jerry Schuman
GO 9ers! :)
- Charlie Isaacs
that is so annoying, though. I hate them trying to figure out what I want to see.
- Laura Norvig
it would be interesting to provide a Radian6-like keyword/filter mechanism that consolidates your personal "rivers of data"
- Charlie Isaacs
Charlie, that's why I use lists. The ones *I* created, not the ones Facebook tried to foist on me.
- Laura Norvig
But you should be able to filter within the lists to "escalate" the important subjects/topics (to you) of that minute/hour
- Charlie Isaacs
Ah, true. Show me what my nptech friends post if it's about tech, but not about their babies. But you do kind of lose the personal touch of social networks that way.
- Laura Norvig
Facebook is doing something interesting with the way they now group together who and how many people have shared a specific link.
- Laura Norvig
agree (about the personal touch) Laura
- Charlie Isaacs
I have some technology that I'd love to sell to Betaworks that does exactly what he wants.
- Jerry Schuman
Laura: exactly right. Facebook's lists are better than Google+'s.
- Robert Scoble
Herman Cain says "Ok, there was that first woman, and then Ginger, and um, who was that third woman, um, "
- Charlie Isaacs
Rule of thumb: If you hear it from Laura N, it's generally right. :-) She set me straight twice recently.
- Bruce Lewis
Bruce, wait, whut?
- Laura Norvig
I hope that Scoble was watching my "Honey Badger Customer Service" video :)
- Charlie Isaacs
how 'bout the amount of money our senators and reps earn from insider trading ????
- studentforce
Laura: once on suicide statistics, once on whether Kevin Fox should visit FF more often. You were right both times.
- Bruce Lewis
Scoble, yes and no. I think they stumbled by trying to foist lists on the 99% who don't use them. It seems awkward. I now have two Family lists. One I created myself and one Facebook created for me. It said I could merge them but that didn't work.
- Laura Norvig
(Insufficient bandwidth on this train to watch the video feed. Trying to infer conversation from the comments.)
- Bruce Lewis
I was watching this street skiing video. http://www.kmcmag.com/fresh-c... Pretty epic.
- Robert Scoble
Kevin Fox can check out but he can never leave.
- Laura Norvig
I am very jealous of John Borthwick's hair
- Charlie Isaacs
Chat not happening and I can't see the video. I guess I'll go back to playing with the Instagram API. Later!
- Bruce Lewis
They're talking about the Carrier IQ debacle
- Charlie Isaacs
still can't TRUST FB when it comes to privacy and choices. That's an issue
- studentforce
studentforce: that's bullshit. Don't put anything on a computer that you want to be private.
- Robert Scoble
Even on Path I don't see anything there that wouldn't be shared anywhere else.
- Robert Scoble
And Facebook gives you more privacy choices than anyone else.
- Robert Scoble
Personally I went the other way, I make everything on these things as "public as possible."
- Robert Scoble
http://facebook.com/roberts... lets you stalk me.
- Robert Scoble
3 minutes of battery left...
- Kevin Marks
Beatles app: http://whattheythink.com/news...
- John Taschek
Studentforce: and apps like Socioclean even let you see exactly what Facebook is exposing about you and you can delete everything you don't want other people to see about you.
- Robert Scoble
What *doesn't* let you stalk Robert Scoble? :-)
- Bruce Lewis
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hiya
- Kevin Marks
I have a place to sit and bandwidth at the w3c TPAC meeting; but I ned to nip to the bathroom for a couple of mins.
- Kevin Marks
back
- Kevin Marks
We will start shortly
- Robert Scoble
passing people like my microphone and comment on it... o_O
- Kevin Marks
you can't short GroupOn until it's been trading a while too
- Kevin Marks
maybe I should go outside by the pool now this lobby is full of people from the chatty people conference
- Kevin Marks
Hey guys
- Christian Burns
Hi Christian.
- Robert Scoble
what is klout's purpose ... who really cares ?
- studentforce
I know I have Klout when John Taschek returns my call
- studentforce
Tim Berners-Lee has 51 klout. mm-hm.
- Kevin Marks
how do they measure it ?? Quantity; quality ??
- studentforce
the problem with klout is that there really aren't many alternatives.
- Danny Starr
lol if you are basing anything like pay or hiring on klout, you're nuts and desire what you got when they changed it
- Danny Starr
ripples
- Christian Burns
an attempt at klout is worthless without incorporating personas.
- Jerry Schuman
Justin Bieber has a Klout score of 100.
- Alex de Soto
ripples - that sounds interesting
- studentforce
klout is fun for people that like their ego boosted :)
- Christian Burns
there is no specificity for klout scores...
- Jerry Schuman
define high score
- Christian Burns
Beyonce used to be the big case against Klout because she had a huge klout score and a bunch of followers but never tweeted once
- Danny Starr
actually Hanson was 2000
- Jerry Schuman
how does one access 'ripples'
- studentforce
ripples are only available on Public posts in Plus... access them from the down arrow on the right of each post
- Jerry Schuman
the fact that Neilsen has never been a player in online analytics speaks volumes
- Jerry Schuman
I thought they owned one of the web tracking co's
- Kevin Marks
played is the verb
- Kevin Marks
script kiddies
- Jerry Schuman
sensor networks are the future...
- Jerry Schuman
Jawbone's new UP bracelet...
- Jerry Schuman
there's an XKCD fro that: http://xkcd.com/300/
- Kevin Marks
tied to a mobility platform
- Jerry Schuman
Aggregation 2.0 is going to be the next big disruption
- Jerry Schuman
Hanson - MMMMMM Bop - 1997 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... / Jerry
- John Taschek
I'm going to the "real" movies tonight. Tower Heist
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Netflix doesn't have 10% of the worlds movies, Obama needs to legalize piracy, then all the movies can just go up on YouTube or any other servers and you can get any movie for just paying $10/month through taxes
- Charbax
Amazon Prime type of yearly pricing should provide unlimited access to all ebooks, articles, text etc
- Charbax
Guess they started a bit earlier... time gets fuzzy. They came to birthday party for one of my daughters band mates which was around 2001. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Jerry Schuman
Hanson still performs - they've actually matured as a band -- they are not bad.
- John Taschek
I heard they were actually very talented musicians
- Jerry Schuman
nice guys in person too...
- Jerry Schuman
Apple made it buggy
- Charbax
I never used Google Reader sharing features, now I will share lots of RSS stuff from Google Reader to Google+
- Charbax
expedient
- studentforce
Never touch Google reader since my Ipad with the Reeder app.... I've never consumed RSS more efficiently
- Jerry Schuman
and they have AWS which lowers their TCO for deploying those services and new offerings
- Jerry Schuman
Google Reader Trends are cool.
- Alex de Soto
the netflix price hike is because movie studios wanted more money. Why should netflix sell the subscription at a loss?
- Charbax
AWS is Amazon's equivalent to Apple's hoarding cash.
- Jerry Schuman
Have you seen the new BloombergTV app on iPad?
- Jerry Schuman
It's pitiful that Amtrak is just getting around to putting it on trains.
- Jerry Schuman
they have a nice iPad app for Hipmunk, Steve.
- Jerry Schuman
Arrived late, enjoi reading comments
- clive boulton
Thanks! Jerry: yeah, the Bloomberg app is quite nice.
- Robert Scoble
was a real good show. Thanks Gang and thanks chat room guests. We all create a dynamic show togehter.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
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Waiting for the call!
- Robert Scoble
me too
- Kevin Marks
we're gonna start in a minute. waiting on a Scoble re-start
- Tina Chase Gillmor
please tweet the show announcement for others to join
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Getting enough tissue ready to weep with the masses over WebOS
- Jerry Schuman
while we're waiting ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Just want to say I predicted WebOS was DOA even before it went to HP
- Jerry Schuman
thought it was a 'heavy metal' effect
- Jerome Hughes
I don't think it's fair to write off WebOS yet. Most of the northern hemisphere is on vacation.
- coldbrew
I'm also chatting here: https://plus.google.com/1110910... for those who would rather do Google+. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
wow John - you're not blurry and low-res anymore!
- Ankush Narula
Scoble: You are two-timing us?
- coldbrew
WebOS jinxed, Touch it, lose $1.2Bn
- clive boulton
coldbrew: yes. :-) I'm using FriendFeed 1.0 AND 2.0.
- Robert Scoble
:)
- coldbrew
WebOS IS dead, I think. :(
- Kevin Costain
HP has not sold anything yet. It seems the CEO put all the options on the table. I can link to some techtarget article from today that was actually good, if you are interested.
- coldbrew
can't seem to keep Seth's feed up. Think he's having signal problems on his end
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Google adding 3rd Seattle location nr MSFT campus http://bit.ly/onPBh5
- clive boulton
HP Autonomy featuring Dr. Dre's Beatz
- Ankush Narula
Businesses need printers :)
- Kevin Costain
From some chatter on hackernews from former employees and consultants of Autonomy, it sounds like more of an enterprise sales org, rather than engineering and technology.
- coldbrew
for how long have we heard... who cares about Apple, they've only got x% of the unit shipment market share for computers?
- Jerome Hughes
Jerome: and they make almost all the profits.
- Robert Scoble
Is it a question of hardware vs. software or enterprise vs. consumer?
- coldbrew
just tuning in! hi guys!! :)
- Susan Beebe
hi everyone, late again :)
- Charlie Isaacs
hello, Beebe.
- coldbrew
Hey there Moe :)
- Susan Beebe
Maybe the should co-brand webOS with Lil Wayne?
- Ankush Narula
WebOS has nodejs support built in, shame.
- clive boulton
:-)
- coldbrew
the HP I have here has an intermittent headphone socket after a month
- Kevin Marks
hey @coldbrew :)
- Susan Beebe
Great
- Harold Carey
What?! who doesn't need page views?! :P
- Susan Beebe
scoble doesn't
- Kevin Marks
stop linking to him
- Kevin Marks
exactly :)
- Susan Beebe
WebOS can join Newton in device heaven. Name a single platform that has risen from its former ashes by a new owner after the brain trust left.
- Jerry Schuman
Oh goody, I am not the only one getting spam on Google+ ... augh
- Susan Beebe
Firefox, Jerry
- Kevin Marks
So is Steve upset that he's getting +mentioned on G+?
- Ankush Narula
script kiddies, Steve
- Jerry Schuman
everyone start posting kitty videos :) meow
- Charlie Isaacs
I think Steve is talking about random people on G+ who send you posts (not just mentions)... those posts wind up being like a DM.
- Susan Beebe
BINGO! same spam i am getting on G+
- Susan Beebe
I don't understand what random posts he's seeing - I don't see anything like that - only people in my Circles
- Ankush Narula
Firefox filled a need based on a sub par platform called IE. No such need exists in the tablet place Kevin.
- Jerry Schuman
Robert - people I do NOT follow are sending me crap that loads up my notifications!!
- Susan Beebe
I may have to do that too: Turn off email and then create a gmail filter to delete noise
- Susan Beebe
quiet chat today.... why?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Everyone's on vacation.
- coldbrew
About 10% of the shares I get this way are useful/relevant; 90% not. I have a stock message I share w/ people in the 90% column, that asks them nicely to stop. Most say "sure," and I don't hear from them again.
- Denise Howell
Oh Steve.... You are missing out. Seems like you are just not giving it a chance, especially if you aren't even posting....
- Ben Hanten
I am troubleshooting a Facebook problem :-o
- Charlie Isaacs
@Tina - great question!!
- Susan Beebe
Scoble loves noise :P
- Susan Beebe
are they trying to send you things for the show, denise?
- Kevin Marks
he loves what he finds in that noise
- Jerome Hughes
interested to hear your thoughts on the patent bubble Denise
- Kevin Marks
Robert is going to camp out again in line hahahhah :D
- Susan Beebe
agreed that the line can be fun
- Kevin A. Burton
Isn't this the 5th year? Like, in a row?
- coldbrew
Kevin - I just +mentioned you on G+ // I know you're not following me - can you see it in your stream?
- Ankush Narula
One cannot be surprised.
- coldbrew
+Kevin The 10% are, so I'm glad they can and do. The 90% are just sending random things.
- Denise Howell
no, but it is in notifications. Thanks Ankush for clearing that up
- Kevin Marks
but if you post to JUST me, what happens
- Kevin Marks
heh - no new information here (re:FriendFeed) - that's the problem - not the solution
- David Ashwood
ah, that was just me so it is in notifications only. thanks
- Kevin Marks
@Kevin - notification + email
- Susan Beebe
Does G+ Sparks have any filters ie chronological? I havent found any.
- Hilary Talbot
If there's beer involved I'll tailgate for anything...
- coldbrew
Right... I posted just to you
- Ankush Narula
Sparks seem very immature and limited right now... odd
- Susan Beebe
@Coldbrew - tailgate - nice analogy!
- Susan Beebe
thats my impression, too, susan.
- Hilary Talbot
oh somehow my comments were not updating....now I see an active chat
- Tina Chase Gillmor
the web is open - content is closed
- Ankush Narula
Beebe, thanks. I spend 5 days a year waiting for the Telluride Bluegrass Festival to start, every year :-)
- coldbrew
The dubstep rooms are always jam packed
- Jerry Schuman
there's a poetry room
- Kevin Marks
Aside from the handpicked, human-passion-driven curation, there are no commercials (right?). But that can't last.
- Denise Howell
I was thinking about a "Best of Gillmor Gang Outakes" room
- Jerry Schuman
haha
- Susan Beebe
Some fellow Coloradan's also just won the National Poetry Slam: http://www.cpr.org/article...
- coldbrew
And not in Canada either.
- Bruce Segal
well, if Seth can sell enough music through referrals, maybe it can last
- Kevin Marks
http://console.fm was the one...
- Kevin Marks
Marks: I think appeasing label execs with data will be more difficult, no?
- coldbrew
when are these services going to work without Flash player? (ed)
- Ankush Narula
eh? Ankush? You mean 'without flash' ?
- Kevin Marks
rule of thumb in US retail, room for three big players in each product category. “Good, better, and best”
- clive boulton
yes
- Ankush Narula
Thanks Kevin, I forgot about that site
- Bruce Segal
haha.... it started with the advent of the BBS
- Jerry Schuman
I'm not exactly clear on how turntable is maneuvering around IP law, and such. Anyone care to explain?
- coldbrew
Ham Radio, before BBS :)
- Charlie Isaacs
they're using the DMCA exemption that Pandora uses, which is very fiddly
- Kevin Marks
smoke signals before ham radio
- Ankush Narula
Ok. So, safe harbor?
- coldbrew
I prefer pidgeons and usenet, personally.
- coldbrew
with tt, you're sharing another activity while conversing about it
- Jerome Hughes
the listener can't know what is coming up, or hear more than 3 songs by the same artist per hour on a channel, plus reporting rules etc. If those are all satisfied, there is a statutory rate of something like a tenth of a cent per song per listener. Right Denise?
- Kevin Marks
“Good, better, and best” - WinPad, DroidPad, iPad. (FB, Twitter, G+)
- clive boulton
They are also a MediaNet client.
- Jerry Schuman
For example, Adam Bosworth is on G Plus: https://plus.google.com/1148568...
- Alex de Soto
Good info. Thanks, folks.
- coldbrew
Scoble - we're not your friends on G+ ?! hey now... ... tisk tisk! :P
- Susan Beebe
I like Scoble's wife's method :)
- coldbrew
I wish my wife would do that before she bought something, wait for me to check it out for a year :)
- Charlie Isaacs
im not super interested in Plus yet
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Glitz: If I got to buy it and install it on my machine? Yes.
- coldbrew
Not G+ adding Scobleizer or Zuck (don't want my stream swamped)
- clive boulton
Check out this chart from NYT... feel bad for any tablet not IOS https://images1-focus-opensoci...
- Jerry Schuman
is youtube in hangouts somewhat like the group experience in tt though for a smaller group?
- Jerome Hughes
Steve: invite @EdChi (Norvig's G+ HCI) to guest on GG
- clive boulton
oops.. bad URL
- Jerry Schuman
it's a hang-in
- Jerome Hughes
Never say never Steve! :)
- Susan Beebe
Biggest problem with Google+ - API isn't generally available - as such all innovation happens in the Google Walled Garden.
- David Ashwood
FB Messages unifies e-mail, IM, SMS, and proprietary FB messaging - pretty smart. Wait until they integrate that with Skype
- Ankush Narula
twitter still dosent know how to make money
- Abhijeet Desai
Twitter is gaining 20 million spam accounts per month
- Ankush Narula
making money is overvalued ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
google dosent need to make money with plus cos plus makes search better & search makes a lot of money
- Abhijeet Desai
I created 5 Twitter handles in the last 24 hours, mainly for testing
- Charlie Isaacs
may be in nokia dominated countries like india. windows phone 7 can make some impact if any
- Abhijeet Desai
John has a cute little silver box hanging over his head. like a video game. What happens when you smash it ?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
"the cream, the cream, it's on the shelf"
- Jerome Hughes
Thanks to BBM, iMessage, Disco/Huddle, FB Messages - the fragmentation will keep SMS winning - and AT&T will be happy to charge you up the butt for it
- Ankush Narula
More than teens - I see Blackberries everywhere in NYC
- Ankush Narula
Exactly! Turntable knows an API helps make the community
- David Ashwood
a turntable listen+chat app on phones would be great
- Kevin Marks
Moe: I disagree. Most teens I know like iPhone or iPod touch better.
- Robert Scoble
depends on which dead you mean
- Jerome Hughes
and kodak?
- Jerome Hughes
"Good, better, best” {Android, WP, iOS} Low cost, best tools, premium.
- clive boulton
Robert: I agree with Moe - teens have no trouble carrying a Blackberry and iPod Touch
- Ankush Narula
Moto will be NFC for consumers & merchants & to push the Android hardware to the next gen
- David Ashwood
Ashwood: Are you suggesting Motorola Solutions (aka Symbol/ not Mobility) is going to help bring a POS to market with NFC capability?
- coldbrew
Patents???
- Ankush Narula
Interesting breaking: Apple seeking injunction against most Samsung Android phones and tablets zd.net/qrOrti
- Charlie Isaacs
Yep
- David Ashwood
Nice. Sounds interesting to me.
- coldbrew
Ankush: and Photobucket's CEO says Android is growing like a week. iOS is growing healthily. RIM? Headed down in usage. I don't see any way it gets out of this death spiral.
- Robert Scoble
It's what will bring Google wallet to the masses. NFC is a great idea - but it takes an age for the hardware to catch up. Moto shortcuts that problem
- David Ashwood
Maybe we will see a Vivotech acquisition.
- coldbrew
Exactly - carriers are one of the prime lags ;)
- David Ashwood
Robert: pretend most people don't run apps on their Blackberries - they use e-mail, SMS, BBM, web and maybe a few choice apps
- Ankush Narula
Carriers will be the backbone of wifi - virtual wifi providers like Fon will spring up - but carriers are still trying to understand what that means. Remember they don't want to be just a pipe
- David Ashwood
50% globally is Android at the mo
- David Ashwood
will they get the profit?
- Jerome Hughes
They should rename Netflix to MadMenTV just for Steve ;-)
- Ankush Narula
What's the content lockin on iCloud?
- David Ashwood
the iCloud storage goes away if you stop paying
- Kevin Marks
iCloud replaces Dropbox - where's the multi-user collaborative stuff - and the server-side apps?
- Ankush Narula
Aye Kevin - but from an App provider/integration perspective - could you put the same content on iCloud and iGoogle?
- David Ashwood
a great thing that didn't survive... Sunday Night... http://www.metafilter.com/64744...
- Jerome Hughes
I've been watching season one of MadMen
- Kevin Marks
and misunderstood at 1st as was the iPod
- Jerome Hughes
"I much prefer your earlier work"
- Jerome Hughes
these aren't failures, they are steps forward to the ultimate goal(s)
- Charlie Isaacs
GoogleTV aint slacken, something brewing for October
- clive boulton
The cable companies have quite a bit of say on the software for set-tops.
- coldbrew
and to get the gamerz to differentiate
- Jerome Hughes
Has anyone heard anything about Boxee in a while?
- coldbrew
Get Laid or Get Paid. Sweet!
- clive boulton
Moe1
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Whose making the Blackberry Enterprise Server replacement?
- coldbrew
that's Exchange currently, no?
- Jerome Hughes
It integrates with exchange, but there's also a separate PKI implementation.
- coldbrew
Airplay will end up more like http://oblong.com
- Kevin Marks
Google Music, lost at sea.
- clive boulton
and his new beard
- Kevin Marks
Thanks, folks.
- coldbrew
Wishing I could go to DreamForce (had a ticket) just toooo dang busy! :) have fun!!
- Susan Beebe
thanks guys:
- Susan Beebe
thanks
- Charlie Isaacs
will attend DreamForce live stream.
- clive boulton
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who's on today?
- Kevin Marks
you are
- Steve Gillmor
kevin ... steve ... + ? ...
- Xenophrenia
just me?
- Kevin Marks
.Oscon takeaway, the boom's about Big Data.
- clive boulton
Me.
- Robert Scoble
Tina - can't find Gillmor Gang on Ustream for iPad - used to work fine with the iPhone version
- Ankush Narula
hmm... need to work on that later. need to start the show.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
k
- Ankush Narula
:)
- Christian Burns
Danny's mic is hot
- Jerome Hughes
getting some packet loss here, I may need to switch to my 4g
- Kevin Marks
that's good Robert
- Tina Chase Gillmor
well ... overlap with TWiL ... missed the start .. hmm
- Xenophrenia
I created a filter for gmail that autoarchives notifications or comments on g+
- Christian Burns
Hey Forget about Twil ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
G+ circles making FB design antique
- clive boulton
This is a beta being tested out on the public
- Xenophrenia
Just catch twil later, this is realtime folks
- Christian Burns
they need to test it at scale
- Kevin Marks
a brilliant comment Christian!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
TWiT shows are where I started (actually TechTV is where but... ) ... didn't discover this til later ;-) ... I have an interest in the legal issues with tech
- Xenophrenia
Tina chucklin'! :D
- Jerome Hughes
Joe Hewitt talking to MG over on TechCrunchTV
- Ankush Narula
Its called failing better than facebook.
- Christian Burns
Denise Howell is very smart...
- Kevin Marks
Loren said that about the squid
- Christian Burns
how about Places, Moe?
- Kevin Marks
Mute this gif
- Christian Burns
I love Denise...really I do1
- Tina Chase Gillmor
perhaps it could be both
- Jerome Hughes
with different views once that's more possible
- Jerome Hughes
Community is building with chrome plugins
- Christian Burns
This is so much more about profiles and identity... the activity stream and comment systems are a byproduct
- Jerry Schuman
Google can adopt the best features later
- Christian Burns
Google needs to accelerate personas combined with trust network validations
- Jerry Schuman
yep Jerry
- Christian Burns
Jerry - those just rollin' still get to breathe exhaust
- Jerome Hughes
yes
- Xenophrenia
Steve, bringing it back,
- Christian Burns
and then what happened?
- Jerome Hughes
2 much G+ noise like corp email CC
- clive boulton
Google can address one of the biggest stumbling blocks today.. DISCOVERY, especially when it comes to how I can be contacted.. via a circle, via a VoIP call, via a Hangout etc etc etc. Combine webfinger with profiles and you're talking the directory of all directories.
- Jerry Schuman
Its still a mystery to me, few of my contacts use it and so it remains idle.
- Arnie Klaus
g+ is here to stay
- Christian Burns
cross posting sucks
- Xenophrenia
I would like to crosspost to facebook
- Christian Burns
I stop following people who do that - I'll follow your Twitter feed if I want to see you Twitter feed ;-)
- Xenophrenia
this is a great example of how I want to see a message... the message routing should be recipient determined.. not what the hell service I'm logged into.
- Jerry Schuman
Cross posting *everything* sucks, but cross posting *some* content across many networks can be useful.
- Chris Bray
Facebook killed our family blogging, g+ is going to bring it back
- Christian Burns
cross posting should be earned ?
- Jerome Hughes
Apple-Twitter all the media and best personal tools.
- Arnie Klaus
Cross post photos
- Christian Burns
Chris: exactly, and copying and pasting doesn't take long.
- Robert Scoble
yes - it depends on how and where ... but many who do that only post in one place and forward it to everyone else
- Xenophrenia
I understand *why* they do it ... but just because you can doesn't mean you should ;-)
- Xenophrenia
I copy and pasted my blog post in, but the lost links made it less useful
- Kevin Marks
I tend to use #fb on the end of a Tweet to cross post to Facebook, #li to post to LinkedIn, I'd use #gp to cross post to Google+, but I use them sparingly and only when applicable.
- Chris Bray
solution... be a better noise processor
- Jerome Hughes
our 8 year old family blog has been silent for 2 years
- Christian Burns
Tumblr's got blogging dialed right in
- clive boulton
Ping is still a sleeping giant.
- Arnie Klaus
Posterous is how we do photos
- Christian Burns
LOL
- Jerome Hughes
Kevin has mad self mute skills
- Christian Burns
Kevin, nice headset and noise reducer. Brand?
- Arnie Klaus
suddenly I'm surrounded by lunch people. oops
- Kevin Marks
skillz!
- Jerome Hughes
Posterous seems to do pictures best, overall prefer Tumblr's edge
- clive boulton
Moe... iOS5 *tw integration to the rescue
- Jerome Hughes
It's a Sony headset, with active noise supression.
- Kevin Marks
I have Danny in a circle called "flame bait"
- Jerry Schuman
kevin -- people found you. there are no private corners!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
gmail was a beta until they had it replicated across data centres
- Kevin Marks
Google+ shows there still is room for someone else can get into the game.
- Arnie Klaus
g+ is whats happening now
- Christian Burns
the keynote just ended, and the 1000 or so left are snacking
- Kevin Marks
did you see MSFT's attack video on gmail?
- Kevin Marks
food rules
- Tina Chase Gillmor
google corp does need to learn, Danny pushback helps make that happen
- Christian Burns
Kevin, MSFT's 'GMail Man' is cringeworthy isn't it!
- Chris Bray
like with Apple - it's a religious type of thing ... people get a little crazy when they nearly worship something - Apple inspires religious experience according to science ;-)
- Xenophrenia
I wish Scoble hade a circle for posting to non noisy commentors.
- Christian Burns
Apple religion will launch ping
- Arnie Klaus
GMail Man is FUD ... scaring people for profit ...
- Xenophrenia
Scoble, do you read every comment?
- Christian Burns
I try. But I do fail.
- Robert Scoble
Like Leo said on Windows Weekly to Paul Thurrott - it's really no different than spell check only using it for different purposes ;-)
- Xenophrenia
totally understandable
- Christian Burns
I miss OSCON.. needs to come back to San Diego
- Jerry Schuman
I dont comment on a scoble posts because It feels like I wont connect, just add to the noise
- Christian Burns
call me back
- Kevin Marks
g+ embedded Peter Norvig direct report Ed Chi for HCI analysis / noise control etc
- clive boulton
I love the nearby stream for g+
- Christian Burns
node,js getting a lot of attention too
- Kevin Marks
Christian: when I'm posting I'm almost always reading every comment, even when they come hot and heavy. But after say 30 minutes the chances I see it go down.
- Robert Scoble
Good to know, I also dont post unless I have something to add :)
- Christian Burns
Dont comment I mean :)
- Christian Burns
a bug?
- Kevin Marks
So the people who think before they type are the ones you don't read ;)
- fuzzyscorpio
@robert i found a complicated way to share a circle with people who are part of the circle.
- Abhijeet Desai
anyone going to the TechCrunch party later today?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
yes, flying back for the TC party tonight
- Kevin Marks
Cant go, Need to take care our our goats.
- Christian Burns
August Capital, tho' I think it's sold out
- Kevin Marks
send them a huddle message . when u c the participants of the circle . @ the end u c an add to circle option so u can add all those people in the huddle to a circle,
- Abhijeet Desai
see you later then Kevin. Maybe a drink together
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Christian - Goats sound like more fun!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I search for Rackspace and I see that Robert and Ben Fisher +1'd the site
- Jerry Schuman
Interestingly that same "xxx Shared This" also seems to hook into my Twitter feed somehow since it identified a share from a contact that's not on Google+ yet...
- Chris Bray
ya even i saw that
- Abhijeet Desai
I get HD net from Mark Cuban and Virgin inflight from Porter Gale when I search for movies
- Kevin Marks
So if lady gaga will +1 a page on google, would up the ranking for the little monsters?
- Christian Burns
probably separate DBs at the moment
- Kevin Marks
yes, christian
- Kevin Marks
they are working on it is what google said
- Abhijeet Desai
It'll be interesting to see how the fact that my Google+ and Twitter social graph is very different to my Facebook social graph (mainly tech/work rather than family/friends) affect these result promotions.
- Chris Bray
yes, social search is part of this
- Kevin Marks
lost you Kevin
- Tina Chase Gillmor
crazy to be able to have these meaty commentaries and conversations but unable to retrieve any of it
- fuzzyscorpio
you're back!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
interesting.. http://blog.superfeedr.com/meta...
- Jerry Schuman
It’s a Chrome application that will silently build a small firehose of all the web services that you use online. It will show you some of these messages as HTML5 notifications.
- Jerry Schuman
Got to make lunch for the kids, see ya
- Christian Burns
there's now a right-wing plan to report Barack Obama for spamming twitter
- Kevin Marks
I actually think almost everyone now has "heard" of twitter, even if they don't use it
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I can guarantee that my mother knows about both Twitter and Google+. Primarily because I'm her son and we're connected on FB and she's actively involved in politics. She's also 72
- Jerry Schuman
(mental image of Kool-Aid guy with a Facebook tattoo breaking through a firewall)
- Ankush Narula
Can someone explain the difference between search and track?
- Ankush Narula
twitter is now fail-whaling for me. did Obama DDOS it?
- Kevin Marks
Get rid of Xeni and you'll cut down on the cat photos ;-)
- Jerry Schuman
ya we need search for google plus
- Abhijeet Desai
Abhijeet: Sparks might eventually be that
- Ankush Narula
it's bloggy :)
- fuzzyscorpio
Anybody found a really good use for Sparks yet?
- Ginger Zumaeta
ankush... track was realtime push, search is just behind pull
- Jerome Hughes
may be but sparks is more like google news
- Abhijeet Desai
But sparks isn't nearly as good as google news - wish it was
- Ginger Zumaeta
i doubt it will fail but they may plan to buy twitter anyways !!
- Abhijeet Desai
sparks is a placeholder at the moment - I think we're going to see something really cool there that uses search algorithms and filters based on your social interactions/profile
- Ankush Narula
Nice Steve Gillmor gave Amy Winehouse props
- clive boulton
one of my friends at Google who codes for Apple just quit to build his own iOS apps
- Kevin Marks
Google should look outside and hire contractors that can kick ass with iOS.
- Alex de Soto