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Seth Godin is the top social media blogger? Give me a break. He doesn't participate. Chris Brogan wins in my view. - http://www.noop.nl/2009...
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I think that Seth is the top marketer blogger.
- Apostolos Papadopoulos
from IM
although as you said he doesn't participate.
- Apostolos Papadopoulos
from IM
i think its based on a number of stats Scoble, rather than participation. But of course, i'm just pleased we're in the top 20 of the list :)
- Zee.
Zee: stats are lies.
- Robert Scoble
well they make me feel good :)
- Zee.
Zee: Seth Godin is a great guy, great author, great speaker, very well known, etc. But no way is he the top social media blogger.
- Robert Scoble
Agreed. Like Godin's insight but he isnt regular enough. Also really like Jeremiah!
- Richard Zeidel
I subscribe to Seth's blog and have yet to figure out why there is such a fuss about him. Chris seems to put more effort into his posts and write things of significance.
- Chris Luckhardt
lol but what do u mean with the stats zee?
- Apostolos Papadopoulos
from IM
Often attributed to Mark Twain: "There are lies, damn lies and statistics."
- CAJ, somewhere else
have you subscribed to us yet Scoble? Would love you to give us a chance for a couple of weeks. Think you'll be highly impressed
- Zee.
Seth is good for those little sparks that get your own thinking going. But yeah, wouldn't put him in the top SM blogger category.
- Virante
Richard: yeah, Jeremiah should be in top two or three yet. Zee: I'm following you here on friendfeed, is that what you mean?
- Robert Scoble
sorry i mean at TheNextWeb.com - check out our recent content, i'm sure you'll be impressed.
- Zee.
Zee: what's the friendfeed URL?
- Robert Scoble
If you turn off comments (engagement) and blog about engagement (with comments off) then you get lots of linketylinks (Google love) in. Helps with those stats :)
- Laurel Papworth
@virante agree with you. I think Seth is more intellectual from Brogan and he is not social media blogger. And I don't say that Brogan isn't great! In fact, he is!
- Apostolos Papadopoulos
from IM
Love your post. I stopped following Seth a while ago for the same reason. He does not participate in the conversation. He writes posts high above from the mountain of Social Media Gods (SMG).
- John Flynn
http://friendfeed.com/thenext... and we have a group with content from all over here: http://friendfeed.com/the-nex... (nearly 6000 members)
- Zee.
The # of people he follows and learns from is an indicator as to his view of his role in the conversation...I mean monologue,
- Kevin Murray
In fact, thinking about it, it is hard to pick between Brogan and Owyang. I should have named both.
- Robert Scoble
Agreed. Great stuff, but Seth's not interested in conversation. Since that's the case, how can he possibly rate high in the social media space?
- Leo Bottary
I like the perspective Seth brings to Social Media, but I agree that he's not participating as much as others. How are we defining "top"?
- Joel Zehring
I think the behaviors of many people claiming to be the "best" of something will be monitored more closely now that FF is around ... I watch the number of people "these bloggers" subscribe to and watch for their participation ...
- LPH™ and his dog P™
methinks that Seth is not blogging about Social Media, but about marketing.
- Apostolos Papadopoulos
from IM
That list doesn't seem particularly focused. Bunch of great sites there that don't seem SM to me. I can't believe they didn't run them past me first. ;-)
- Chris Baskind
Joel: the blog that made this list is using popularity ranking algorithms. Judging people by popularity will take you down a bad path.
- Robert Scoble
Seth is like God. He disappears for a long time then pops up with the old miracle. He's a good helicopter view of what's going on whilst people like Scobles and Chris Brogran are the day to day practioneers. You need both.
- Ross McMinn
Definitely Brogan is much better. I think Godin is miscategorized here. That said he's not conversing much in any space, just thinking out loud, which is great, but not so much social.
- Bailey McCann
I think we need universal portable influence metric - something peer mediated - micro celebrities need community validation.
- Richard Zeidel
Zee would be in the conversation. At least if I were having the conversation.
- Matthew DeVries
I don't even know Chris Brogan - maybe I should..
- Arnaldo M Pereira
I like it that Seth doesn't participate in everything. It makes it easier to follow him. Has anyone tried to email him or connect through his "Tribes" projects?
- Joel Zehring
what apostolos said. seth is marketing, not social media.
- James
Joel, that's like saying Chuck Nevitt is the best basketball player, because he's so easy to follow, cause most of the time he's on the bench, and the 3 minutes a season he got to play, he moved very slowly.
- Matthew DeVries
Arnaldo M Pereira: Check out Chris here ==> http://friendfeed.com/chrisbr... He's very active.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Exactly, Social Media and Seth Godin? WTF? And how come RWW team is not in the 1st three?
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
lol +1 to Matthew
- Bailey McCann
I'd say Amber Mac would be up there, but I guess she's more like the little girl who gets every freakin new toy on the planet the day it comes out, tells everyone it's a great toy, then tosses it aside, and goes back to playing with movable type.
- Matthew DeVries
Good guy, but last I checked Seth doesn't even tweet!
- Ryan Miller
from Nambu
Ryan: we were on a radio show together and he told me he doesn't Tweet. I tried to get him on friendfeed and he didn't have any part of that.
- Robert Scoble
Seth is tops in several areas....just not social media; not even close..I'm sure he would agree
- Daniel Kenney
agreed scoble.
- Ted Bradford II
Seth is definitely a top blogger..but because social media is about conversation, then you're right...others have a right to that honor.
- Bill Reichart
Seth is a snake oil salesman, but Chris Brogan sees him as a role model. I've predicted that Chris will be the first to Tweet from the Lincoln bedroom in the White House.
- paul mooney
Maybe they should call him the top social media spammer. He's broadcast-only. Woot for Chris Brogan though.
- Dave Saunders
+1 with taryn930
- Apostolos Papadopoulos
from IM
Seth Godin uses email primarily to respond to people - he doesnt believe in the other media and he has explained that in some of his interviews. Chris Brogan on the other hand uses social media channels extensively and in my opinion should rank higher as a social media exponent.
- Mahesh Patwardhan
blogger or not.. moot question... is seth a good "social network" or "web2.0" (as much as i dislike that term!!!) media personality... *no* he's hardly a participant - he's more a "dictactor" - one way communication (mostly)... still worth reading i guess if you're into that sort of marketing guffy stuff (i'm only into technical stuff :) ...
- simran
I like Chris Brogan and Perry Belcher too!
- Vicki Z Lauter
I agree that Seth, smart as he is, is not representative of social media blogging. Having said that, what makes us so sure Chris Brogan, and I love Chris, Or Jeremiah, who I also love, are more engaged than Susie from Detroit? Because their numbers are higher hence the stats ranking. Why are their numbers higher? Because they're sort of viral. I often wonder how people become popular....
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- Sheryl
Chris Brogan I know about and I follow on Twitter and FF, I just Googled Seth Godin, wasn't sure who he was....
- Mike Nencetti
I don't feel like I should weigh in or anything, but I wanted you to know I'm listening and I'm here. I really love what Seth does. I read him religiously. He's NOT a social media blogger. He writes about marketing. That said, he writes about the part of social media that matters to me: how humans can be more human. So, to me, he's still #1, because he's writing about humans, and that's...
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- Chris Brogan
see what I was tolding ya? 1) Seth is not a social media blogger 2) both Chris and Seth are the best on what they do ;-)
- Apostolos Papadopoulos
from IM
For the record, Wolverine is the best at what he does. I'm just a working schlub.
- Chris Brogan
I like and respect what both Chris and Seth have to say tremendously. Not sure I care that much about who is the "top" blogger or whatever because either way I'm gonna keep reading their stuff and learning.
- Miguel Rodriguez
I do appreciate that Chris is present here (hi Chris!) and feel that his participation in "the discussion" adds another dimension to his insights. I wonder sometimes why Seth limits his interaction. When he's on camera being interviewed, such as by @loic most recently, he seems quite comfortable.. why that comfort doesn't extend to places like FF and twitter I am still scratching my head over.
- Miguel Rodriguez
Seth reminds me of Yoda, Chris reminds me of Obiwan. First one's cool, simple, philosophical, and ass-kicking. Second one's down to earth, practical, trained in highly useful Jedi stabs for day to day fights. Follow both, learn from both.
- waraney rawung
How would you classify Gary Vaynerchuck in the Marketing/Social Media environments?
- Owen Greaves
I watched a video of Seth essentially saying that much of social networking is superficial. http://blog.angelaconnor.com/2009...
- Angela
waraney - I think you nailed it :-)
- PXLated
I had an interesting connection w/ Seth. Back when I was doing Biznik Live interviews, Seth's answer was to ask about our listener numbers. ("10k gets my attention"...Understandable from a guy who is #5 in Google out of 3 billion hits for "blog") However, when I sent him a video of Bizniks discussing Tribes, he liked that & agreed to an interview. It was an experimental brady-bunch style video interview on the importance of Tribes in business. Edited version: http://tinyurl.com/r9f9qz
- Leif Hansen
@ChrisBrogan I bet being compared to ObiWan just made your day ;) I think I'm probably more like Luke -whiny guy with father-figure issues who gradually grows into his vocation through the grace/luck of the force and of friends and some serious hard knocks with his own dark side. Though I've got plenty of Solo juice flowing through my veins as well :)
- Leif Hansen
I agree with Chris, but Chris and Jeremiah are still up there IMO, especially when it comes to Social Media specifically.
- Jesse Stay
Apart from the fact Chris Brogan is hardly even here lol
- Rob Sellen :o)
Is Gary V. on that list?
- Jesse Stay
That's my point...shouldn't he be on the list?
- Owen Greaves
But seriously, oranges are so much better than apples. Come on guys...
- Leif Hansen
We know Scoble doesn't like lists. He really doesn't like those where it's easy to find holes in the lists. If this were written as "200 Social Media Blogs" with stats, and without rankings, it'd be easier. I was just surprised to see I was included at all.
- Louis Gray
But Louis, You are a legend here :)
- Owen Greaves
Great point about Godin not participating. In my niche there are some "experts" who have huge following numbers, but follow very few themselves. If you don't interact with your followers are you really participating in the conversation?
- Richard Byrne
Godin doesn't need to participate... he has sneezers. :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
@Rob Sellen - Yeah, I'm not really deep into FriendFeed. I use it, and try to stay on top, and I get that lots of people say it's a big next stage. This is where Seth and I agree and are somewhat alike: we both believe you don't have to be present at EVERY conversation at every touchpoint. He picks his places; I pick mine. I just find the velocity of the social web to be more my speed. He likes email. No foul.
- Chris Brogan
Nothing wrong with that... ;o) .. just thought it odd for someone to say somone is the top social media blogger and not be in the social media sites itself... after all, that's exactly what scoble has said in the title here ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
concur - chris brogan is the man
- mike "glemak" dunn
Why Mike, do you think that? what is it that Chris does that's so different to anyone else?
- Rob Sellen :o)
Not a chance. And Seth doesn't make it as top marketing blogger either.
- AJ Kohn
@Rob - oh, I'm in tons of social media sites. I just don't spend all 14 of my working hours in each one. I don't use Utterli, Plurk, Jaiku, Hyves, Orkut, Digg, Sphinn, and 300 other folks either.
- Chris Brogan
like scoble you mean? or was that 7 hours lol? I never said you weren't in any, just that scoble posted that here... and you are not here as much, nor is seth.. so scoble to me was just replacing one for another, if that makes any sense? :o/
- Rob Sellen :o)
Woot woot "Seth Godin is the top social media blogger?" - nawwwwww.. he's the world's biggest liar.. hey after all he did write "all marketers are liars" !! He connectes with people because of his views and he also disconnects to people b'coz of that too.. As for interaction and collobrative particiaption.. hes got his nose still stuck n da air.. yeah Chris wins hands down !
- Peter Dawson
One thing I will say about Seth, ha can say a lot in few words... other times he says things that are a bit broad... but if it makes you think, that is the point. :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
So Scoble chose FriendFeed. I've chosen Twitter. He also really loved the hell out of Facebook and used it up. I didn't. Which tools you use doesn't make you a better or worse social media person. How you get the job done counts the most to me.
- Chris Brogan
I agree... just thought it odd in the context of friendfeed you know. ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Agree Chris. Darth Maul's double-edged sabre is as useful as Yoda's tiny one. I'm a beginner at social media, and trying to keep in touch with what's new and what's useful. You, Scoble, Seth and many others have been very helpful for a rookie like me.
- waraney rawung
What is a social media blogger, and why don't I get on this list? I've been doing this longer and better than any of you guys. Geez Louise what's a guy gotta do to get a little recognition.
- Dave Winer
Which reminds me, a lot of early adopters in Indonesia are using FriendFeed, but they're not really into discussions in FF. On the contrary, geeks in Indonesia love and are very active in Twitter and Plurk (sometimes behaving differently in each site), with Facebook as their personal online central nerve.
- waraney rawung
It's all subjective anyway. ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
@DaveWiner - here here. You're who *I* read, anyhow. : )
- Chris Brogan
shouldn't that be "hear hear" sorry... lol. that's coming from a deaf bloke! ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
@Rob - Beats me... what do I know? : )
- Chris Brogan
I wouldn't even call Seth a top marketing blogger, jeez
- Sally Church
lol... I see that alot, and wonder if it should really be hear hear... makes more sense that would. ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
I think it probably is. Like "hear hear" me?
- Chris Brogan
yeah, what I was thinking...even if I can't "hear hear"" lol... . ah well. we learn sommat new everyday...
- Rob Sellen :o)
Gotta run, Rob. Thanks for the chat hidden in Robert's rant. : )
- Chris Brogan
lol.. welcome mate.... hang on.. does Robert NOT rant? ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
The 'what tools you use' debate is interesting. While I agree that, as long as you get the job done, the tools don't matter, there's also the ability to understand new paradigms. It's difficult to talk about and grok something without really immersing yourself in it. I didn't get blogging until I really did it. Ditto Twitter. Certainly FriendFeed. They *are* different ... meaningful...
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- AJ Kohn
I really like the comment on social media being about connection vs. the technology that allows it to take place. That is one reason I enjoy friendfeed so much more than twitter & even facebook. Much easier to connect and join conversations with people. I find myself looking at stats of who I am listening to much less in here than twitter. The result, better conversations, more...
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- Kevin Murray
I think Seth is great at what he does, I'm just not sure "Social Media Blogger" is the right description. Perhaps evidence that that's not his focus is that a conversation of this magnitude can go on without his commenting/participating. For anyone interested, here's a post from my blog about something recent I have disagreed with Godin about: http://tinyurl.com/po62js
- Brian Broveleit
Chris Brogan rocks!
- Morten Blaabjerg
thats ok Morten..as long as it's not while sat in the corner on his own ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
lol - what's so impressive about @chrisbrogan is that he responds - or at least gives the impression that he does. He works like a maniac. And he _gets_ what _it_ is. This makes his posts small gems of insights, even the less revolutionary ones.
- Morten Blaabjerg
lol "gives the impression that he does" - what does that even mean morten?
- mike "glemak" dunn
Agreed that Chis walks the talk and puts out great stuff.
- John Blossom
Seth Godin is practical and sees through the hype - something that most social media commentators are guilty of.
- BLOGBloke
Social Networking/Media Sites Staying Relevant: (humor) http://www.youtube.com/watch...&
- Kevin Murray
Seth may be an expert in his own realm. Social media is certainly not it, but I have heard Seth make some valuable points about how to not use social media. Obviously Chris is doing something right, as evidenced by showing up to speak him mind, and pay Seth some respect. You gotta respect guys like Chris, Robert, Dave, and Louis (who are the ones on the tip of my tongue right now) -...
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Ditto Robert! What is it with the "online marketing copywriters" all wanting to act like they're the top social media bloggers now? Oh... that's right... social media is the hip thing! Thus they flock to it. I respect Seth for particular forms of copy writing, but lots of better social media bloggers... like Chris Brogan, like Leslie Poston, like you, and others.
- Arleen Anderson
I agree Robert. (And thank you, Arleen *blushes*) Mahalo
- Leslie Poston
Amen x heaps! Seth is a genius... but certainly doesn't spring to mind in the context of "top" in social media. Chris is for sure in my top 5!!
- Mari Smith
Chris Brogan is the best example of what bloggers should try to achieve, IMO. Like any great writer, his stuff is worth reading even if you are not close tot he subject of a particular post. That means a lot.
- randulo
Agreed. Seth stuff is good, but he does he even get social media?
- Warren Whitlock
@glemak There are limits to one's attention span when you've got a lot around your ears (like Chris has) but it means a lot that you give the impression that you're listening and responding, even though you may not always be on your high marks. Noone can be. It's only human. But appearances still matter and are greatly appreciated. Chris is good at that too.
- Morten Blaabjerg
gotcha - level of attention
- mike "glemak" dunn
Thanks to those who mentioned me. Scoble is for sure one I looked up to and still do.
- Jeremiah Owyang
Jeremiah isnt the best at what he does - he's just the only one who does it! ;) - let's not be exclusionary - thank you to all the top minds for sharing.
- Richard Zeidel
I think Chris Brogan is THE man. Many of the social media experts are now engaging only with those who are also 'experts' and not with the new comers or followers. Brogan, on the other hand, very rarely to missed a conversation. As for marketing bloggers, I still stand behind Kyle Lacy as the best one.
- Gambit Fauri
Seth "gets" social media tools but he is not the top participant--where Chris is. I am dubious, however, of claims that Seth is not a conversationalist. Have you ever sent him an email? He personally takes time to respond to every email thoughtfully and quickly, which is more than I can say for a number of social media stars (or even myself).
- Jeremy Floyd
Lately I have been reading more of Chris has to say, that said does it really matter who is the top?
- Chet Woodside
SCOBLEIZER - Do you grant variance from the "No deleting your comments and altering the thread mother fuckers" rule if you're doing it simply to kill a thread from your "My Discussions" filter so it stops popping like popcorn on your notifier?
- Matthew DeVries
Matthew: that is an interesting problem. I wish clicking "hide" were good enough for that.
- Robert Scoble
As do I.
- Matthew DeVries
Godin doesn't allow 2-way participation, thus negating the openness principle of social media (no replies on his blog, not on twitter). He's just repurposed the blog to act as a writing platform for material for his books. He's very tactic based and without a huge depth of substance, but that's what people like; though it's not necessarily good for them.
- Aaron Shields
as a technologist, focused on emerging media yet appreciating the fine art of marketing - i learn little from seth (noise) and tons from chris (signal) - that's my experience of course, your mileage may vary ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
Our flying Dutchman makes the Reich Museum look like a tourist trap. Should be on the top 5 things to do when you are in Amsterdam. Very bright, clear thinker. If you ever get fired for being "too open with your ideas" Chris you can work for me!
- Chad Harris
Agreed, Brogan all the way.
- Jim Gaudet
Brogan is amazing
- Peter Efland
Chris Brogan is an active interlocutor in ways Godin isn't. Still, who is #1 isn't as important as who is providing content that you need. I respect Godin. Have read lot of his books. But still, Brogan is my fav.
- Prof. Pamela Hood
Seth is a pure-play Social Media thought leader. Chris participates in the SM stream so he gets my respect for walking the walk and talking the talk.
- Michael McDermott
I'll give props to Chris Brogan in this so-called "social media" space, insightful, valuable, interesting. And I will give a lifetime achievement award to Dave Winer, I was reading Scripting News BEFORE the word "blog" was coined by EvHead and MegNut. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Winer "teach" you how to blog Scoble? One thing that continues to exist that I wish would go away, but probably never will is this whole "leaderboard" mentality... is there some contest? <sigh>
- .LAG liked that
I agree with Scoble, Chris is here in the trenches and impressively dedicated.
- anthonycospito
Methinks Brogan is sending his cousins over here. :-)
- BLOGBloke
In my view the better a Blogger is the more comments they will receive. Seth Godin does not even have comments enabled on his blog.
- Garin Kilpatrick
Shows how "social" he is at the very least. I don't completely agree that a blogger needs to receive comments to be "better" - but you can't really be a "social" media blogger without being "social".
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
At Next09 I challenged Twitter users to stop answering “What you are doing” b/c the answers are mostly meaningless. What should we answer?
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"Who is" or "How are you" making a difference today?
- Russell Cook
What is important to share right now?
- Louis Gray
What might other people be interested in?
- jcunwired
What do you want Google to know right now? Heheh. Or, what do your friends need to know?
- Robert Scoble
"How many social media experts does it take to screw in a lightbulb?"
- Daniel J. Pritchett
@DanielPritchett - LMAO
- John Fox
What are you thinking?
- Abhimanyu Chirimar
i would make Twitter spit out a random Zen koan on page load.
- Karim
I don't see the issue with the current question. For certain users, it's still applicable. They should perhaps consider adding a second question though, with answers to each aggregated into separate streams. That way, you know what you're getting.
- TheLovableRogue
"What are you thinking?" is being push by @jayrosen from NYU. He has dubbed it "mindcasting".
- Meryn Stol
Over on friendfeed the question is "what would you like to talk about?"
- Robert Scoble
"<-- put shit in here" or better yet, remove the text and don't replace it with anything!
- alphaxion
I talk about pills or solutions to people's challenges. Fill a need. Ask "How can I help?"
- Shane Gibson
Thinking about it though, is the question even that relevant? People will continue to write about whatever they want regardless of how the question is phrased.
- TheLovableRogue
"what can you share that is valuable to your community right now?"
- Jason Peck
Where do you want to go today? ;)
- Meryn Stol
what can you post that's meaningful?
- Miguel Rodriguez
What have you learned?
- Lou Clark
Wuz Up?
- Sharon McPherson
For your consideration:
- Denise Aday
I like Robert's response. Rather than simply talking about "I'm brushing my teeth", it should be about "what would you like to talk about?". It's all about conversation.
- Kenneth
Why is it all about conversation? My mom likes my status updates.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
from IM
What are you thinking? seems to be the obvious one.
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
The keyword is share. It needs be something like 'What would you like to share?' Ideally, though, I think Twitter should randomize 5-10 different questions (share/say/discuss/something about photos, etc), or run them sequentially each time the user logs in, so they get the full idea of what you can do on the service. And one of them should still be 'What are you doing?', as not every tweet can be a Pulitzer prize-winner.
- Shéa Bennett
twitter is different things for different users..I dont think we need guidelines for it.
- Samuel Lewis
from twhirl
Daniel - I personally think it should be about conversation because I think that it would be great to have more dialog rather than one-sided conversation. Your mom may like that your status updates but that's for Facebook, not for Twitter.
- Kenneth
For proper conversation we need one-click access to threaded tweets. I blogged about this essential feature, and some others I'd like to see, earlier today. http://twittercism.com/five-fe...
- Shéa Bennett
what's wrong w. someone using Twitter to say what they are doing? I mean I see where you are coming from that if everyone always did this type of tweet it would get old really reaaally quick-LOL. but don't you think the democracy, if you will, of being able to say whatever u want-in 140 char. is what makes Twitter so beautiful?
- Benin Brown
from fftogo
Yes, there's always a place for the inane, and of course the definition of what that means is a very relative observation. Believe me, lots of folk think tech is inane. *Lots*. :)
- Shéa Bennett
"What's on your mind?". It fits if you are posting a link or trying to have a conversation. *edit* of course, since I haven't used facebook on anything other than my blackberry in a long time, I completely forgot that was what they asked. oops :)
- Matt Thompson
from fftogo
'What have you done for others' might be cool?
- Nicholas Chase
Cracked up on Shéamus saying inane is very relative... you know my family???
- Jim Espinoza
I just commented on this earlier today: "Instead of answering Twitter's 'What are you doing?', you should answer 'What am I good at?'"
- Erik K Veland
What about not asking a question, but instead put an instruction - 'Post Your Update Here'? I've had dozens of folks new to Twitter tell me that the reason it took them so long to send their first tweet, was because they weren't clear on how to do it.
- Sharon McPherson
"Post Something"
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
I think the question, although it may be an initial prompt for tweeps, becomes quickly ignored for other tweets. The earliest study on Twitter (a Master's thesis at the London School of Economics and Political Science in late 2007) indicated that less than half the tweets were actually answering that over-arching question. Here is the link to the thesis, if you are interested. http://www.lse.ac.uk/collect...
- enza (aka iVenus)
"Twitter is not what you're doing, Twitter is what you're thinking." -- http://friendfeed.com/akkarti...
- Kartik Agaram
"Why am I still using Twitter?"
- Josh Haley
Some amazing stuff here! Thanks for your thoughts everyone!
- Brian Solis
Let's answer questions that force us to think about the updates we wish to galvanize action, response, connections, learning, et al, such as "what inspires you," "what did you learn today," “who should we pay attention to and why,” "what are we better off for knowing now because we follow you," etc. We need to stop tweeting "at" followers and start listening to the things that help us...
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- Brian Solis
Brian, I think that you have some great Ideas there about the Social Web, but getting folks to realize it's a privilege is going to be a tough one to get across. They don't even grasp that concept with Drivers License in California, and you have many, many police folk and a much over used court system reinforcing that idea on a regular basis.
- Brent - Loving Life
What matters to you right now?
- Angela
Line Dancing | danny brown - http://dannybrown.me/2009...
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How much information is too much information? Is there a part where your business head should come into play and you start charging for information?
- Danny Brown
The Five Myths of Social Media - http://www.markevanstech.com/2009...
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You know you're addicted to FriendFeed when... - http://www.conversationagent.com/2009...
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So true.
- Roberto Bonini
Haha! I've tried to "like" things on a few sites.
- Nurse Katie
I was reading my print edition of the New Scientist this morning. No Like or Reshare buttons there either :)
- Roberto Bonini
Awesome
- Sarah Perez
#4 you look for the like button on Twitter - haha more often than I'd like to admit
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
Check, check, check, check, check...wow. Especially on the "like"ing. I try to like things everywhere. I spent like five minutes trying to find the "like" button on Facebook yesterday.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
LOL, #10 is cool... and #3 and #8 is so me
- Peter Efland
Heh, I've never looked for a "Like" link on Twitter, although I did on Facebook once.
- Tyson Key
I know I'm addicted to FriendFeed when I attempt to hit the "G+A" Google Reader keyboard shortcut to get new posts on my FriendFeed home feed - this happens all the time...
- Nathan Chase
I swear I'm not addicted (not denial) but you all sure make it fun.
- Eric Matas
#7 made me laugh out loud... call your mom people! (I'm only saying 'cause I talked to mine yesterday--in the clear for another week.)
- Trish Haley
Nice List. I confess that I am a FriendFeed addict, as it has a value.
- Nicholas James
does texting your mom count?
- Brian Appleby
heheh I need intervention... glad Arrington's on hiatus!
- Susan Beebe
worse when the friendfeed addiction is followed quickly behind by an rss feed addiction
- James Fridley
When you complain and nit pick about it but still on it everyday. :)
- Mona Nomura
I find myself thinking 'CTRL+F' when I'm reading an article in print that is long and I want to quickly find if the article addresses what I believe is the core issue.
- coldbrew
I nearly did @replies when i was SMS'ing this morning. :)
- Roberto Bonini
Your butt is wider than your shoulders.
- Phil Boiarski
when you have a Scoble filter :)
- Fred Grott
Social Media Is Not a Life Raft - http://www.chrisbrogan.com/social-...
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Social media is more like PR for an individuals ~ when it comes to large corporations, it really just seems like low budget market, and I'm talking LOW. As to my comment about PR for individuals, I've recently learned of a high profile person who's started to use it to clear up some "controversies" and misperceptions , quite skillfully too time will see if it works though
- sofarsoShawn
How Do YOU Measure Customer Lifetime Value? « Ron Shevlin’s Marketing Whims - http://marketingroi.wordpress.com/2007...
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Small companies may not need to try social media services such as Twitter or Friendfeed, at least if they want to stay small. It's good for brand management, but it's not necessary especially if your brand isn't very popular. Also, if the community of a company isn't using social media to find out more about that particular company, then the company doesn't need it either. This only...
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- Corvida
Brief Update On Digg - http://blog.digg.com/?p=516
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Is that mean you guys have not been profitable?
- John Bellone
Five Blogs to Start Off Your 2009 Feed Reading - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
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Louis - Extremely honored to make your list... It made my day! thanks again!
- andy brudtkuhl
Obama Staff Arrives to White House Stuck in Dark Ages of Technology - washingtonpost.com - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...
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The team members, accustomed to working on Macintoshes, found computers outfitted with six-year-old versions of Microsoft software. Laptops were scarce, assigned to only a few people in the West Wing. The team was left struggling to put closed captions on online videos. Senior advisers chafed at the new arrangements, which severely limit mobility -- partly by tradition but also for security reasons and to ensure that all official work is preserved under the Presidential Records Act.
- Leo Laporte
wow. it will be interesting to see what happens. with the new web site, blog, and YouTube channel change is definitely happening.
- Randy Ksar
from twhirl
I am sure that much of this will change in the new administration. You can use modern tools in government work and still maintain public records. You can even work on a Mac and maintain public records. I have to say that I am not surprised at the state of technology in the White House that the new administration inherited though...
- Rob McNair-Huff
Do you think we will see a Mac on the desk in the oval office?
- Michael McGimpsey
from twhirl
Oh dear..that is a step backwards! Grrrr! Obama needs "CHANGE" in the IT Dept!!
- Susan Beebe
I would love to see a Mac on the desk in the oval office. Even a Windows notebook or tablet would be a big change...
- Rob McNair-Huff
but frankly - if what you need to do is manage information, search the web, and write documents, a six year old version of Microsoft software is fine - say windows XP, project 2000, office, email - all of those are 6+ years old and do the job (tablet technology is 6+ years old.and hasnt improved). Also laptops go missing, which probably is a huge concern at this level. New CPUs are wasted on office work
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Joelle, completely agree, with the exception of Linux, especially Ubuntu. Mac and Windows, definitely. Ubuntu continues to surpass my expectations every new release.
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
What did office productivity tools add in the last 6 years? (excluding wide sharing tools which are forbidden for use in the white house anyway).
- Amit Morson
Given how well the rest of the transition went, it surprises me that they were caught off guard by what types of computers and software was being used in the White House offices. Sounds like someone dropped the ball there.
- Ken McNamee
I dont think anyone was surprised, this is just media trying to create a story where there is none, in the scramble to invent more ways by which the old administration can be made to look incompetent. I know many companies who still use an older version of MS Office and XP and everyone is GLAD that they do (except for people whose status is tied to having the coolest gear) - and the lack of laptops is probably deliberate. The UK gov is a good example of how much damage is done by casual use of laptops.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Joelle, I don't think the story made it sound like the outgoing administration was incompetent in this regard. According to the story, the technological backwardness is partly because of the need for security and partly just the White House culture no matter who the administration is. However, it does sound like the new administration walked into the White House the day after the inauguration and was surprised by what they found. There shouldn't have been any surprises.
- Ken McNamee
surprised by 6 years old software, hu? Would be funny to watch them enter a space shuttle and meet technology from the beginning of the 1990's.
- Amit Morson
Trends in Blog Advertising for 2009 - http://www.inquisitr.com/16043...
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Top 25 Ways to Stop Wigging Out (cross posted at Livingston Buzz) - http://www.conversationagent.com/2009...
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Enlightening! I really needed a post like that :)
- Sara Maternini
What All PR People Should Know About Journalists - http://rohitbhargava.typepad.com/weblog...
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Social Media Reading For Traditional Communicators - http://davefleet.com/2009...
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Personal CPM: Quantifying star power on social networks » VentureBeat - http://venturebeat.com/2008...
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A Crash Course in Comments - http://www.chrisbrogan.com/a-crash...
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Add: Don't forget comments on FriendFeed!:)
- Igor Poltavskiy
Marketing in 2009 (free eBook) - http://www.conversationagent.com/2009...
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...so sorry for not partecipating, but as you know, in Italy vacation are vacation :) I'll download it right now!
- gluca - [mini]marketing
@gluca yes, you know that I love to highlight people who do great work and pull all the stops :)
- Valeria Maltoni
thanks for sharing this interesting ebook Valera
- Andrea Colaianni
from twhirl
I am totally proud of this group, folks. These are the people who are making the future of marketing a reality.
- Valeria Maltoni
Valeria; just saw your article. Very much looking forward to downloading and reading the content. Chris
- TheLovableRogue
Hope you will find the content useful, Chris.
- Valeria Maltoni
BuddyFeed: FriendFeed app for the iPhone - http://tweetcrunch.com/2009...
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Works pretty well so far
- Kevin Whalen
from BuddyFeed
To be honest, the only things I find lacking from the standard FriendFeed interface is the ability to subscribe to people's feeds. What else does this App do?
- TheLovableRogue
The article lists each of the features, but I think 1 thing you can do with the app that you can't with the FF iPhone site is post images. There is also a safari booklet which I assume let's you posts links easily.
- Kevin Whalen
from BuddyFeed
Your comments and likes are also separated out.
- Kevin Whalen
from BuddyFeed
I tried using the bookmarklet. It didn't post anything when I chose a photo to attach, but it worked fine without the photo.
- Neil Bernhart
It's a great start! Looking forward to seeing more updates before I choose to use it over the standard FF iPhone version.
- Corvida
Hopefully, they're working on a real-time FF feature
- Bwana ☠
Downloading NOW!!
- Sarah Perez
And suddenly this dude makes $10,000 in one day. Looks really slick!
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
I find ff works fine within iphone. I'm not a heavy ff mobile user so maybe there's something that I'm missing.
- BEX
Looks like there's a pretty major bug that adds "+" signs in between words when posting http://friendfeed.com/search.... A bit of a bummer for an app that isn't free. Devs should consider releasing beta versions for free to squash bugs and then charge for a final release. Just sayin.
- Mark Krynsky
Mark, I agree. Instead of the beta tester discount during the first week :)
- Bwana ☠
have tried it, works fine - thanx for sharing
- Donald Townsend
from feedalizr
Sad that Blackberry can't have cool apps too!
- ursi
$1. It almost works. The main reason I wanted to use this was to post images without emailing, but when I did that, it replaced spaces with +'s in the title or crashed. The main feed is a bit slow to load, especially the avatar icons. There's no list support yet. Otherwise, it's cool. The ability to post to a room would be nice.
- Rodfather
I still like the web or mobile web interface better. I'm missing lists and rooms.
- TobiasVerhoog.com
I might wait until I hear better things.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Twitter Usability Grade: C Minus - and We’re Being Generous - http://www.growmap.com/twitter...
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There is a GreaseMonkey script that adds a search box (http://bit.ly/rCis) and I created one for looking up @replies to a particular user on their profile page (http://bit.ly/wwL8). Ideally, Twitter would have this already. It's not much work to add the markup for a search box.
- Jauder Ho
I'd caution anyone against arguing design decisions with phrases like "Standard usability calls for..." for anything!... even if it's bad design. Seriously, twitter may have a very limited set of UI hooks for the user to hold on to, but who said that less UI is a bad thing? Get Satisfaction feedback is more intelligent then this blog post :P http://getsatisfaction.com/twitter
- karl dotter
No, Tech Blogs Should Not Shut Up About Twitter - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
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Post by Eric Berlin: http://friendfeed.com/ebrage
- Louis Gray
good column
- R. Ferguson
It's self fulfilling. If you post incessantly about service X, guess what... service X grows. It's not rocket science. Feedback look, echo chamber... call it what you will.
- Ken Sheppardson
I find it funny that there's two Twitter posts on friendfeed's "best of" page today. THAT is why you'll continue seeing us talk about Twitter. Everytime I write about Twitter I get more traffic.
- Robert Scoble
Sure, I think there's some of that, but the same is true for any popular topic. I also think it gets a lot of coverage for the reasons I lay out in the piece. :-)
- Eric Berlin
Tired of Talking to Yourself? Go Visit Other Blogs, Leave Quality Comments and Links - http://www.growmap.com/comment...
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But at least I listen.
- Todd Hoff
I think a summary headline will be the absolute standard for blog posts from now on. It's so handy when sharing. One main thought - or question - per post.
- Meryn Stol
+1 Meryn
- Todd Hoff
Ha! That reminds me of email etiquette circa a decade ago: entire message in subject line, body contains optional signature :)
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
Email etiquette circa 2009: Don't send email. :)
- Meryn Stol
FriendFeed is Just Digg without the Testosterone - http://newmediafanboy.com/2009...
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What’s Your Career Mission? - http://www.web-strategist.com/blog...
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Getting Things Done - http://www.conversationagent.com/2009...
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New blog post: "Choosing Bus Stops | danny BROWN" ( http://dannybrown.me/2009... )
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The Toilet Paper Entrepreneur | The Master of Too - http://www.toiletpaperentrepreneur.com/blog...
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Twitter App Database: Will You Use It? - http://mashable.com/2009...
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Anyone try this out? Review? Thoughts?
- Colide81 (James)
"It seems like every day there’s at least five new Twitter apps popping up. The news of a shiny new Twitter toy gets dispersed through Twitter streams everywhere, hits critical mass, news dries up a bit, and then, if you’re like me, you forget about it completely."
- Colide81 (James)
The science of shopping | The way the brain buys | The Economist - http://www.economist.com/science...
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"Retailers are making breakthroughs in understanding their customers’ minds. Here is what they know about you"
- Kol Tregaskes
from Bookmarklet
I go to shop knowing what I want to get, and rarely deviate.
- LogEx
Me too, I don't browse for no reason.
- Kol Tregaskes
Thats a great graphic, and an interesting article those scoundrels...now where did they put the milk, .nor can I find the Bacon counter.. I know I'll 'follow my nose..
- Jason
@Kol - have you ever been to Fry's electronics...... :D
- SnakeDoc
Fry's has a huge impulse item wall before check out on both sides... they have a dang good selection of candy there!
- Trish Haley
Very interesting article. Thanks for sharing it, Kol :)
- Jemm
No worries, Jemm. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Wow, cell phones as locational data leaks ... sort of an anonymous web bug for large retail stores that can be used to track dwell time & location.
- Andy Edmonds
I hate shopping at Fry's. Believe it or not, they generally do not have what I am looking for. What they do have, I am able to find online for less, so my Fry's trips are mostly reserved for when things are truly sideways and I have to do something, anything, now.
- Robert Miller
I like buying
- sofarsoShawn
We understood that, supermarkets learn from customer experience management (CEM), but they use it for their own benefit, not for the customer's.
- Uğur Özmen
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