tristan - Likes - FriendFeed

That poor cat looks so confused. - Kendra <3 Three Lions

but it's so warm on top of the scanner! - DJF

Time for a cat scan! - Jemm

Iz I the right way up for printing? - Vicky

This is clearly not my cat. If this was my cat he's have one arm shoved down into the printer trying to tear up all the internal whirling bits with his bare claws. - Soup

LOL, Soup! - Kol Tregaskes

that is one adorable kitten! - Anna Lynn M.

<3 - Furkan Tunalı

Too Funny! Reminds me of the San Mateo Cat Shelter where one of the cats loves to sleep on top of the laster printer where the paper comes out... - Greg Lato

Kitty!!!! - Janice

keep trying! - Morgan Haley

FEED ME A CAT - teh Dork Knight aka Kenny

Kol, it is NOT impossible. And that's all I'm saying. - Steven Perez

Push harder - Josh Haley

LOL@Jemm - AJ Batac

آخی - یک بابک

Hehe, Steven. I won't ask. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Gosh, just noticed this post has nearly 150 likes! :-D - Kol Tregaskes

1 closer....hilarious! - Jeffrey Marsh

There we go 150 likes. :-D - Kol Tregaskes

I'm in ur faxx masheen -- sendin de faxxez.... - Stephanie Segel

I think you mean a LIVE cat… - Glen, Bespectacled Elder

thanks, i needed a laugh - chaz2b

FAXCAT IS NOT AMUSED - Karl Knechtel

iz dat some copycat? - bora "head" basman

LOL, now nearly 200 likes! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Thats no fax machine, thats my new patented kitty juicer! - Threepwood

Just one more like... please. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

it's over two huuunddreeeed - bora "head" basman

MOAR! - Pat Hawks

I need 9 copies please ! - Faraz Mullick

A cute cat :) - Mohammad Abdurraafay

Haha, Faráz. - Kol Tregaskes

Next target, 250 likes. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

اخي...گناهي - noonii

Friendfeed loev faxcat :o - Karl Knechtel

;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Pussy by fax. What will they think of next? - Mattb4rd

X)) - Nia

OMGosh, next up is the 300 likes mark. Anyone care to join in? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Honestly, i'm not generally a fan of the Cat memes... But that is classic. - Alistair (alpinefolk)

You know this is the 7th most liked entry on FriendFeed ever: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... !!! - Kol Tregaskes

Kol, this thread is pure genius. - Alex Scoble

But only almost 50 comments.. :) - Simon Wicks

Simon, there's not much to comment regarding the picture :) But meta-comments are more than appropriate! - Ivan Zuzak

Simon, yeah we need 1500+ comments now, who wants to start? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

there we go then for the 1500+!! - Jaap Willem

1600+ to beat the FFundercats live chat thread. I think with this real time now on all threads we're going to see some truly epic comment numbers. - Simon Wicks

Ivan, no the picture speaks for itself. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

OK, now it's the 4th: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... - it's gonna take a huge effort to break the record of 452+ likes here: http://beta.friendfeed.com/imified... - Kol Tregaskes

OK, now this is the 3rd most liked entry: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... :-D Crazy! - Kol Tregaskes

Too bad I am fresh out of likes of I would do it again. - JSNFLMNG

¡Excelente! - Marcos Vicente

I'm using this photo in the latest chapter of can haz murder - anna sauce

Hehe, Anna. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

One more for 350 likes, LOL. This is mental! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Come on, 350 cats for a cat getting crushed? You guys are mean. :-P - Richard A.

I'd like again if I could :-) - Dobromir Hadzhiev

bump - Simon Wicks

Richard, LOL! - Kol Tregaskes

Awesomely funny! - Martha

Next target: 400 likes? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

theres one more for you Kol - Toby Graham

Toby, you're very kind. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Cute *_* - Sybelle

Hehe. - Kol Tregaskes

Just 6 more likes for the 400 then I'll leave you alone. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

can you spare a cat 6 likes? - JSNFLMNG

sweet - Eric Hofmann

Haha, Jason, wow 406 likes, madness! :-D - Kol Tregaskes

Madness? THIS. IS. FAX CAT. - Mike Nayyar

Well 452 likes is the record, hmm I think that is pushing it. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Awesome. - Alex Scoble

this is underfaksink at its worzt - Petr Buben

Petr, I have no idea what you mean, but thank you. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

@Kol .. :] that, partially, might have been the purpose.... I don't know it exactly either. :] .. was I reflecting on a cat under the fax, and that it is hard to fax that way ... /?:] ... "underfaxing at its worst" .. - Petr Buben

Ah, OK, Petr. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

there ya have me ! :] .... see, to be honest with you, i saw this pic couple days ago, but i let it go, without posting it ..... what does that make me? :] - Petr Buben

:-) - Kol Tregaskes

OMGosh, just 23 more likes to beat this: http://beta.friendfeed.com/imified... ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

433 Like ! Wow ! - Like

Freemor, yes very cute! :-D - Kol Tregaskes

cute~ - Chan Pen

that's why is called a cat scan and not a cat fax. - Phil Maxwell

oh ... a scan. not fax?! .... it looked to me like she was faxink - Petr Buben

Just 5 more likes needed. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Try rolling the cat through a press first. Flat cats fit into the fax easier. - Bob Blunk

Fax, Petr. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

even a flat cat... faxes just can't handle the hair. You'd have to shave the cat first, else the hair will burn and stick to the drum... a mess! (I am extrapolating from transparencies, mind, i don't have access to a cat to test) - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

Hehe, Joelle. This is now tied for the 'likes' top stop. One more then, hehe. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Ok, over the top now. - Greg Guitarbuster

Hehe, Greg. Blimey! Erm, is that not far from 500 likes now? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Bloody marvelous, Kol. Wish I could like it again... too cute (and help u to 500 likes). - Roberto Bonini

I couldn't believe it when I logged on from the morning over posting it and saw it was at something 200 likes! You all have a strange fetish with cats and fax machines, hehe. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Am I the only one who saw this and their first thought was - My goodness did someone break that cats neck? It still freaks me out a little - Steve C

Steve, it does look a little out of place, but cats are pretty bendy. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

They fax much better if you flatten them first. What? - Kevin Pedraja

LOL, Kevin. - Kol Tregaskes

i can also imagine the cat going there cause it is snug and warm - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

Ey, it would be a tad warm on there, especially after a long working day. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Caption which needs to be said aloud: Uh Ohz, I'm totally FAXED! - sofarsoShawn

Hehe, Shawn. 10 more for the big 5-0-0. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Countdown! 8 more now! - Mike Nayyar

bump for more likes - Josh Haley

bump - Roberto Bonini

One more!! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

I took mine away, too much pressure. - Steve C

Wow, there we go, 500 likes!! Thank you all!! :-D - Kol Tregaskes

I think Fax Kitty deserves a prize for that. - Kendra <3 Three Lions

меня, признаться, подзаебал этот кот - Парадокс Смейла

пиздец как! - getalifejerk

Kendra, absolutely. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

So we can put this post to rest now. :-) 505 likes final count, wow! :-D Good night all! - Kol Tregaskes

My like is the last one so far :) - 509 afaik - getalifejerk

did 3 people really un-like this? now at 506. wtf (edit: uh, oh, yeah, me and 2 + 506 others makes 509. dammit, jim, i'm an artist, not a mathematician) - ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ

wish I could double like! - metalerik

Wish I could just like it at all. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

This is also still on the Best of page. That must be the longest running best of post? :-) - Kol Tregaskes

But it's a cat being crushed... - Richard A.

برای چی این همه لایک خورده؟؟؟؟؟ - H.M.Nasrabadi

Hehe, Richard. - Kol Tregaskes

copy cat - gibilix

518 like! most liked post? - Lu Tao

ay yerim yaa çok tatlı kedicikk :)) - Arzu

Lu, yeah but a long way now. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

*bump* - Andre

Blew past 500 likes - LIKE!!!!! - Roberto Bonini

OMGosh, nearly heading to 550!! - Kol Tregaskes

So we know how many people use this site. - Richard A.

So that's what Paws Printing means. - Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)

Richard, we getting there. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Jack, hehe. - Kol Tregaskes

this thread is making history. - vijay

Indeed .. this is a most epic thread - Mattb4rd

Hehe. 9 more for 550! - Kol Tregaskes

8... - sofarsoShawn

7. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Actually only 5...cuz "You, Earl E Morningwood, yasin ghasemi and... 542 liked this" - sofarsoShawn

Who wants to bet how many likes this thead is going to get??? - Roberto Bonini

Gosh, no idea. - Kol Tregaskes

take some bets then come back in a year to check? - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

:) - SokooteDel

Holy smokes .. this pussy cat is approaching 600 likes! - Mattb4rd

552 now, so there are some unlikes going on, hehe, oh well. Still an amazing amount of likes. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

560! - sofarsoShawn

And back down to 559. Hehe. - Kol Tregaskes

And how could anyone not love kitties after seeing this photo? - Susan Beebe

I liked it without reading this discussion - evidentially we have a lot of people who like the idea of faxing a cat! - Rich

Rich, yes, worrying, hehe. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

564! - sofarsoShawn

I think we'll have to recruit more ffeeps before this record will ever be broken - JSNFLMNG

maybe a good way to clone cats :) - Roberto

Hehe, Roberto. - Kol Tregaskes

This surely couldn't hit 600 likes, could it!? - Kol Tregaskes

It could! Keep bumping it up! - imabonehead

It will :) - Roberto Bonini

My next cat post: http://beta.friendfeed.com/the-fun... - Kol Tregaskes

Wow, not even 600 Likes? Feh. ;-) - j1m

No yet. Close though. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Stuck on 581. - Kol Tregaskes

Most liked FF post ever? - Kristian Salonen

One of the best funny cat pictures I've seen! :-) - John Collis

Kristian, it appears to be. Hehe, John. - Kol Tregaskes

ای بابا این پیشول بی خیال نمی شود، بابا پاشو برو دنبال یه بازی دیگه ، از هفته پیش تا حالا تو فکس ولو شدی حوصله ات سر نرفته، پاشو اقلا بپر رو کیبوردی چیزی - Maryaminaa

11 more to 600. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

داداش كوتاه بيا، مي خواي ركورد بزني!؟ - Exir

هستم بره این کامنتتو ترجمه کنه اکسیر ! :))) داره از فضولی میمیره الان ! :D - Shayan

Hehe, 6 more likes. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Need 1 more like, by my calculation, to get to 600 - Josh Haley

Another unlike then, back down to 598. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

it's 598+3, at the moment ;-) - Andre

There we go, 601!! Wow, can't believe it. :-D Thanks everyone!! - Kol Tregaskes

3 people un liked :( - Roberto Bonini

I think there have been made unlikes over the last week, oh well. - Kol Tregaskes

too many likes, the kitteh is burning up..stop the madness...;) - JSNFLMNG

Haha, Jason. - Kol Tregaskes

614!!!!! - sofarsoShawn

Whoa! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

man! ..Kol is gaining ... and I saw that pic one day before Kol posted it :X ..and i let it go! :[)] - Petr Buben

Petr, who's he? - Kol Tregaskes

omg, this post passed 600 likes! - imabonehead

@Kol ..well the man .. Mr Photographer .. ok .. let me go there .. - Petr Buben

I see. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

631 likes, amazing stuff. :-D - Kol Tregaskes

Day 11 and this thing's still going! - Phil Maxwell

Why fax yourself when you can get famous via FriendFeed? :-) - Willem (@wim66) ☠

whereas a cat *scan* is totally feasible - Megan Craig

Kol, congratulations, you won the Friendfeed Award for the most likes entry! - Jérôme Flipo

Kol is this from your rival: Squashy Cat Photography? - sofarsoShawn

Haha, Shawn. Have you really bumped this one again? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

LOL I was actually looking at best of month and I thought I'm going to be clever :-) - sofarsoShawn

this makes me laugh every darn time I see it - Stephanie_Happy2010!

Who is this NShawnFW? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

kitties do like to find new spots to nap :) - Maryam

LOL, now over 650 likes. - Kol Tregaskes

این هنوز در نیومده از لای این دستگاه؟ - Maryaminaa

Wow. this is good..... pleased, Kol? - Roberto Bonini

Pleased? About the number of likes? I'm happy regardless. :-D - Kol Tregaskes

So do we think it will go to 700 likes? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

it will - Seltoon

what do you mean by "it" ? say "he" or "she". :) - Maryaminaa

Haha, I was referring to the entry. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

lol - Maryaminaa

I see someone already posted 'Copy Cat' !! LOL Great picture - Kevin J Hatton

:-) - Kol Tregaskes

O HAI! I IZ WATIN FR COOPONZ, KTHXBYE. - Kris Roley

Neksnapper 3000 Kitten Eradicator - Kills Kittehs Dead - Mattb4rd

Hehe. - Kol Tregaskes

10 more likes for 700! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

7 more by my count! - Bec Rowe @d0tski

Oops, yes you're right, Bec. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Isn't it illegal to fax a pussy? - aerobroken

It's really only social convention which regards it as inappropriate, same with Xeroxing it, like one does with their b__tocks. Wait are we still talking about cats cats here or... - sofarsoShawn

OMGosh 700+ likes now!! LOL. Thank you all 702 of you. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Wow, not so bad huh? \u) - ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,

try harder! ; )) - Didier Lahely

Before faxing it, you have to flatten it out a bit. You're going at it all wrong! :-) - Rick Cogley

Caturday is tommorow ... Fax Cat on Saturday .. - johnpiercy

Must try this at home! - Anthony K. Valley ©

Bumping some old great posts. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Now THAT is a classic! - Allan Besselink

you have to flatten it first!!! ;) - Neda S.

This is very good humor! - TrafficBug

Hey, we've hit the 700-like mark. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

just a couple thousand to go - JSNFLMNG

LOL - Smeerch

__awesome__ - Matteo Scotuzzi

and it got resurrected once again! - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

I managed to do it once, but I don't think I'm going to do it again. The results were a little fuzzy. - Seth Greenblatt

Compare these two. FriendFeed has great pictures, but content that is, well, not interesting. Twitter, on right, has 6,000x better content but doesn't look as nice due to no pictures. Will Brizzly come to rescue? - Robert Scoble

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I hope somebody comes up with a fabulous client to maximize content and serve up more media - Susan Beebe

And people wonder why I don't come here much anymore. Sigh. - Robert Scoble

FriendFeed used to be very heavy in tech discussions. Now it's rare I see a tech discussion on the "best of day" feed. - Robert Scoble

The cap on the left is infinitely preferable to the right. I can't tell you how glad I am not to be inundated with tech stuff all day long. One man's trash... - Jim in Real Time

Time to adjust your subscriptions. - Bruce Lewis

try PowerTwitter ...also, which service has 6000x more users? doesn't that affect content choices? - .LAG liked that

I keep looking for the comments link on Brizzly. - Tom Landini

PowerTwitter is a great add to the twitter website (Firefox add-on) - Susan Beebe

There's more to talk about than just "tech", seriously... - Rob Haas

Robert - Do you have any general news, world news Twitter lists/groups? I tried scrolling through you lists, but they all seem pretty tech-slanted. If Twitter is to replace Friendfeed and Google Reader, then we need to be able to get real news and information out of the thing. - Matthew DeVries

The left is a best of day from your 28000 subscriptions. The right is a heavily curated list focused on something you are interested in. Try "best of" on a curated list (there is a link at the bottom of every list feed to best of for that feed). - Benjamin Golub

agree totally with you Scoble, Bruce: adjusting wouldn't make a difference now - ffcode

Ben - great advise! - Susan Beebe

I know twitter is occupied with infrastructure and list improvements, but you would think they could be building brizzly-esque features pretty easily. - Sean Montgomery

Sean - right. Twitter has to stablize their platform, then focus on UIX - Susan Beebe

Matthew: I'm a geek. Other people are doing news lists. I might start one, though. You are the second person to ask for one. - Robert Scoble

and there aren't tech discussions here one of the prime reasons are Scoble left and he is usually followed by around 10k folks everywhere, and his predictions affect all, weak or strong minded - ffcode

I find it a fascinating observation: Twitter is better than FriendFeed because there's more tech discussions in my feed. Is that the criteria you use for judging other social media sites? Because, IMHO, social media is about connecting people, not about tech discussions. - Glen, Bespectacled Elder

ffcode: sorry, I'm tracking the geek participation here and sorry, the really geeky stuff has definitely gone down. - Robert Scoble

always wondered how your feed would look like but it is clear you are no different ;) - ffcode

Robert - I come to you because you're the best list builder and analyzer of signal to noise. - Matthew DeVries

Glen: sorry, where the geeks go generally the general public follows. Generally. And, anyway, compare this stuff to Facebook. Even there it's a loser, sorry. I watch my wife's feed all the time and compare it to FriendFeed and FriendFeed loses. She said "ew" when she saw my page here. - Robert Scoble

Glen: by the way, I can make such a screen shot for a bunch of different genre's, not just tech. Twitter has far more diversity and has far more flow of all kinds. http://listorious.com 's huge first weekend demonstrates that. - Robert Scoble

Jim: if you don't want just tech, check out http://listorious.com -- what list would you like? In one weekend Twitter got more diversity thanks to lists than FriendFeed did in 18 months. And no "ew" pictures. - Robert Scoble

You still have to come here. It's mandatory - Charlie Anzman

sad one of the best place is going down like this and it is going the way every other social network is "just for fun"....:( - ffcode

Charlie: I do, but now you know why I don't show off FriendFeed at conferences anymore. - Robert Scoble

FriendFeed's still here. Unfortunately when Scoble, FriendFeed's top user goes, so go the users. - Jesse Stay

number of places on the twitter display where you could see an inline discussion: zero. - SuezanneC Baskerville

I follow Scoble, but I'm not going anywhere, Jesse. - Jim in Real Time

Either that, or this just means FriendFeed has gone mainstream, and is no longer just tech users any more ;-) - Jesse Stay

Jesse - Robert left Twitter for quite a while (well, not left, but just had it parroting his FF) and it didn't seem to hurt Twitter any. Robert can't make or break a service all by himself. - Matthew DeVries

I guess I just don't get it. My Facebook connects me with friends I haven't seen in years and relatives I contact rarely. With Facebook, I can keep in touch far better than I ever have in my life. I learn about my cousin in the ICU with pneumonia, and my good friend in Indiana who just had a grandson. The whole format is not compatible with tech discussions; the length restrictions... more... - Glen, Bespectacled Elder

Code junkies best of week: http://friendfeed.com/code-ju... - Bruce Lewis

@Cristo: +3000. @Robert: Change your subscriptions. You just haven't curated your worldview here as much lately. Things change, so must your prism. - AJ Kohn

as usual, Robert's death of FF posts shoot up the charts. get it? - Steve Gillmor

Matthew, see my second comment. I think some of it is that FriendFeed's userbase has changed as well. It's not the tech early adopters any more. I expect with Facebook's acquisition it will become more so that case. - Jesse Stay

My point being this comparison doesn't mean much - Jesse Stay

What is "geek" to you Robert? Because I've been seeing plenty of "geek" posts in the subscriptions and rooms I follow here on FriendFeed. - Itachi

Mehmet: geek is someone talking about technology or talking about building something or excited about using such. Do you see any geek in the friendfeed screen shot? I don't. - Robert Scoble

Agree with Jesse here. - Mahendra (SkepticGeek)

Bruce: is that the best example you got? All those items have no discussion! - Robert Scoble

And like Tom's comment [keep looking for comments link on Brizzly] LOL! - Mahendra (SkepticGeek)

o.O Louis is pretty geeky. His kids already have Macbooks. - Matthew DeVries

The most active discussions I've seen on FriendFeed lately are only when someone proclaims or laments its decline. Sad but true. - Mahendra (SkepticGeek)

Or when Jason holds a live chat. - Mahendra (SkepticGeek)

Robert, twitter=no conversation. I'll deal with the 'ew' pictures by simply using the 'hide' button, that's why it's there. You go your way, I'll go mine. It's all good. - Jim in Real Time

do anybody no why Scoble can't just leave us alone. Friendfeed is dying according to him, no need to make it a self fulfilling prophecy. The more you "high profile" users criticize FF the faster folks will leave it. - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

Coding geeks communicate best with code. Neither twitter nor FriendFeed let you indent. So there's going to be more sharing and less conversation for coders. - Bruce Lewis

Robert ,the best of the day are comments and likes on a post ,not content. all the contents from Twitter,blogs,Rss etc are here and its better to get them here or in public groups or in private , I am not sure that on Twitter ppl are acting ,they are just reading same as here - Johni Fisher

agree with Steve Gillmor, users are here but they are doing things way different now than they used to when Scoble was around - ffcode

agree more than 100% that "those" tech talks are just gone - ffcode

You're comparing a hand crafted twitter list to friendfeed's user-generated best-of-day? - Andy Bakun

Gunny, give the guy a break. He feels forced to be on twitter and misses the conversations on FriendFeed. Did you look at the right-hand picture from twitter? No conversation happening there at all. Zero. I can't imagine hanging out there all day. - Bruce Lewis

I skip all the tech anyway. Who says it's "better"? - m9m, Crone of FriendFeed

Cristo: try seeing feed around those times when there when acquisition talks - ffcode

Why can't there be a friendly friend feed and a tech friend feed? Is there no other use for the internet than to talk about the internet? - m9m, Crone of FriendFeed

Tech and coding news is primarily what I look for in FriendFeed, and I find it. Conversation happens, as well as users bumping things up with likes. Subscriptions (friends and rooms) help filter tech content that I want to see. A like is sometimes as good as a comment. - Itachi

and Andy: you are yourself stating what Scoble has been saying all the way twitter is place where you can get your taste now not here anymore - ffcode

Robert- regarding your early early comment- I find it refreshing that FF isn't about tech - anna sauce

+anna, +Glen, and even +cristo - Kamilah Gill

Does Plurk get this much attention about its inevitable death? Now there's a service that could really use the wake-up call. - Mark Trapp

Robert never got infatuated with Plurk, Mark. - Itachi

Robert most of the change is in the place that you decided to open a subject and to post ,I remember 3 months ago your posts here were with tooons of comments and interest and from the day that you are posting your Twitter FAV here, there is not much action ,just think on that ,I like to read your Twitter FAV but I would better have them in a group and get yr posts like in the past - Johni Fisher

Yeah, you're pretty geeky there when you have to search how to make screenshots - KapitanObvious

agree Johni - ffcode

thx ff - Johni Fisher

To be honest, any social network with content governed by who you're subscribed to, and having image media in a feed is going to come up with something you don't like. This is because no one is on topic all the time, especially on Twitter. If you want sanitized feeds from *only* tech experts, geeks and what have you, these sort of services aren't going to cut it for you.... more... - Mo Kargas

I sure like the interaction here, comments, community...this post shot over to Twitter, but there is nothing going on there about it. - Eric Matas

@Eric Yes exactly, to me it looks like a glorified RSS stream from different sources, fundamentally a list of content and that's it. The topics Robert is after may not be present on FF, but the conversation is far more intuitive. - Mo Kargas

"glorified RSS stream"...pretty much sums it up. - Itachi

Hey GUISE, we're forgetting that the list on the right will fail-whale often as twitter never seems to remember how to run their servers. As to the content on the left not being interesting, well...at least I know it's real people who aren't trying to get me to buy into some new brand or some interchangeable tech company that will just be bought by facebook one day and disappear. :) - Jon, the Chilled Beartato

I just can't wait for the day that Scoble ditches Twitter for the junk it is. Should give me a good laugh. - Itachi

Twitter has no "ew" pictures because it has no pictures. You can use the fftogo option that turns off media if you want no pictures. - Bruce Lewis

For conversations, friendfeed wins. For tons of blabbers and links, twitter wins. But agreed, activity has gone down heavily on friendfeed. Twitter mania has caught everyone. - Amit

Interesting tech discussions from http://friendfeed.com/paul... are "Think big. Code small" and the ooc one. - Bruce Lewis

One anecdote deserves another. I've posted on FF regularly for 1.5 years. I comment frequently on others' tech posts, but most of my own posts are not strictly tech-angled. This week I asked "FriendFeeders : NEED ADVISE: Best all-around value Netbook today - which one?" and it got 16 LIKES and 20 COMMENTS. The last time one of my posts hit/surpassed that threshold was early August http://friendfeed.com/search... - Micah Wittman

One thing I noticed is no conversations. Just straight links to other sites. Kind of boring. - Todd Hoff

BTW is it possible to stop getting the twitter updates from others on Friendfeed? Slowly I am seeing my friendfeed aggregating only the twitter updates. - Amit

Yeah, you can Amit. Just click "hide" on a tweet you see in FF, and then choose to "hide other items like this one"...and go from there. - Itachi

Robert is just being Robert, always stirring things up! LOL, I really do ♥ you for it though. - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

No hatin' on the Vikings here, they try hard :p - Itachi

You know what makes me laugh... People who use FriendFeed in other languages probably don't see this or any of the stuff Robert is interested in... - Johnny Worthington from iPhone

+Johnny W. - Kamilah Gill

BTW... Heaven forbid we actually have fun on a Sunday... Your lawn's that way - Johnny Worthington from iPhone

You're really going to show me Wall Street Journal on your Twitter feed and compare that to Friendfeed's personal interaction? You know better, Robert. - Eric @ CSTechcast.com from iPhone

KapitanObvious++ for the burn. - Andrew C

One of the nice things about Friendfeed is the way you can hide a post like this and not see it ever again. It would be nice to have a way to filter posts from specific people if they contained certain words such as twitter, lists, dead, or friendfeed. :) - SuezanneC Baskerville

Robert GFY dude, seriously. - LANjackal

""glorified RSS stream" - yeah, except my RSS feeds have been culled down to sources that add their own insightful commentary so it's not an endless stream of retweets of _all the same damn links repeated over and over_. That Twitter screenshot looks really information-light once the repeats are filtered out... - Andrew C

FRIEND Feed. - Tad

And this coming from a man who posted this online: http://valleywag.com/assets... :P - Jan Ole Peek

The Friendfeed screenshot shows 222 total interactions in the first three entries. The twitter one shows 14 (and I'm counting the one at the bottom that is cut off). Oh wait, those aren't interactions, those are links to other places. - Andy Bakun

I think Robert is just confusing the point of the site. The name is FRIEND Feed, not interesting feed, useful feed, news feed, etc. This is where I hang out with my friends. - Tad

Robert, you're cool and everything, but sometimes the things you post make me think of you as an arrogant asshole. The beauty in friendfeed is that there are so many different flavors to sample from. There are plenty of sites to go to that are tech heavy if that is what you are looking for. Why bother here if it's not what you want? Move on and shut the fuck up about it. Jesus. - DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE

Amen. - Tad

For someone who doesn't like Friendfeed or thinks Friendfeed doesn't offer as much value as twitter, he sure does post here a lot. - Andy Bakun

This is exactly the kind of post I don't want in my feed. Adjusting my subscriptions now. Sorry Robert, but I gotta block you on Friendfeed. See you on Twitter. - Rodfather

Robert. You are stating the obvious: of course friendfeed is going to decline: there is no more engineering or innovation power behind it! The key question is: "is a friendfeed++ going to reborn as part of facebook and have a much more profound impact?". The jury is still out but knowing the quality of the team I would not bet against it. - Edwin Khodabakchian

I think this post is very rude to the posters in your screenshot, especially the second two. They are sharing themselves and their lives with us. If that doesn't interest you, unsubscribe or hide but to call them out and mock them as 'sad' is, well, sad. FriendFeed is full of people that I enjoy discussing all kinds of topics with, including technology, but they are more than just early... more... - joey

Thank you Joey. I find the screen shot to be particularly offensive considering the tenor of the post. Stop being a jerk Robert. - DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE

Holden: I have removed my Twitter favorites from FriendFeed because of your post and my Twitter account too. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Scoble, you need to clean your Twitter DM's like stat. - Outsanity

@Robert - Just because FriendFeed isn't 90% tech and personal branding posts doesn't mean it doesn't have value. You used to be such a big proponent of lists here and molding your subscriptions so they were full of info but not noise... now that you've neglected your pruning efforts and gone over to Twitter then your feed is full of more noise (to you) than info. It's not FriendFeed's... more... - Fa La La La Lindsay

Her Lindsay-ness: sorry, so many geeks have left and there are just more interesting information (FOR ME), more interesting conversations (FOR ME), and I'm learning a lot more over on Twitter (ABOUT WHAT I WANT TO LEARN). FriendFeed HAS changed and that's OK! For you. Not for me. And, sorry, I looked at rejiggering my accounts here, but the info just isn't coming here and Twitter is... more... - Robert Scoble

Then go away. What the fuck. Why keep coming back here to make posts about how horrible it is. It just makes you look like more of an asshole than you intend to be I'm sure. Seriously. If you think there is no value in it, then it's kinda counter-productive to keep posting here, right? You act like the guy that graduated high school but keeps coming back hanging out at lunch and during pep rallies. It's a little bit creepy. What is it that you hope to gain by that? - DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE

I agree with Gunny. YOU caused the mass exedus from Friend Feed Robert, by announcing its demise. Let's see what would happen if instead of moaning about its lack of techy feeds, you began promoting it instead. Look on it as an FF experiment. - Sandra Large

I like reading your stuff Rob but yeah --- if you're only going to come here to diss FF, perhaps you should just exit FF completely. Also, it's a FACT that Twitter is inferior to FriendFeed based on communication alone because look...here I am, discussing this topic and others can follow along w/o having to search through random comments and pages [they can even comment easily also! *gasp*!]. FF probably will die eventually, but Twitter was freakin' stillborn. Just a glorified RSS service... - Scott Carmichael

Its all becoming a Robert Scoble 'self fullfilling prophecy' lately on here. You can't have a conversation on Twitter like this, twitter is a newsreel of headline news, that's all its good for, Friend Feed is as its name implies, a feed for friends to discuss anything under the sun, and not just about technical stuff. - Sandra Large

I don't agree that a person who's become dissatisfied with a service should leave. I've often heard change should come from within. With that said, I'm not sure Robert is pushing for positive change. Can it occur? With Zuckerberg calling the shots, maybe not. Maybe he owns every idea that the FFounders will ever have for the next few yrs, keeping those changes for Zuck's baby. Maybe FF will improve, & maybe the techies who were drowned out on Twitter will find they can be seen & heard here. Who knows? - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

My post is up: http://scobleizer.com/2009... - Robert Scoble

Gone mainstream? - Amit Morson

it gone mainstream alright - Fajar Nurdiansyah

You can't blame Robert for the fact that the FF guys sold out AND left the ship more or less rudderless. If they had bothered to figure out even a tiny bit of a PR strategy around the take-over, then things might not have gone downhill so fast, or at all. And, yes, you can filter out all of the emo stuff (nothing wrong with it BTW, but that can be had from your IRL friends on Facebook)... more... - Alex Schleber

Robert: accepting the accuracy of observations about the amount of interesting conversations from your perspective, there still remains a question regarding what could be the cause? while one theory may be a decline in friendfeed activity, another possibility is the decline in your own activity. what evidence can support one hypothesis over the other? - Mike Chelen

methinks a service can go on without an ego? personally i pop back here every now and again for the occasional conversation. i'd prefer more intelligent discussions on here, not just tech related, maybe i'm not following enough people? eh. - Terry O'Fee

+1,000 joey. "emo stuff" that can be "found on Facebook"? LOTS of arrogance on display here from several directions. Alex, I know that you're tempering your statement by saying that there's nothing wrong with "emo stuff", but that's still awfully dismissive. FF is more like a number of simple blogs because the whole world can access the posts. FB is a walled garden, and tends to be way more dumbed-down (except for when I look at the FF people I'm subscribed to in FB). - Kamilah Gill

Hey, guys? Don't feed the troll. - Akiva Moskovitz from BuddyFeed

now you tell us. - Jim in Real Time

Friendfeed never gone..! - ★ Soner Gönül

Well if FriendFeed has nothing else going for it, I can at least read a deep exchange of ideas here as to why it's toast. Perhaps thats why I'm sticking. Btw, slightly off topic, but am I the only one finding Twitter list creation a complete chore compared to doing the same on FriendFeed? - JSLeFanu

I don't see the problem. My pecs dominate your feed. Who can complain about that? - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

LOL @Rasheen™ - Glen, Bespectacled Elder

Rahsheen, it's ok to let the one's own fun part of life intersect one's social media sphere http://friendfeed.com/tad... , but not when it's someone else and it can be used in the wrong context to misappropriate a point. - Micah Wittman

It amazes me how people will continue to use a service just to complain about it. Just STFU and GTFO. - Steve Lowe

Micah, I don't follow what you're saying... - Kamilah Gill

Robert - Just make Twitter fix the 140 character limit thing already! - Matthew DeVries

then it would be a blog or what a tumble log? - ffcode

strange people resist so much even when they know this is it - ffcode

Robert, setting aside your point, your methodology here is insulting. Why? My response is here: http://friendfeed.com/zeigen... - Stephen Mack

Kamilah, fair point. I'll explain without sarcasm. Robert's shower photo was a bit of fun that is fine and doesn't represent the whole of his on- or off-line contribution. Andy's photoshopped photo of Rahsheen doesn't represent the whole of Andy's contribution (which is very much technical, btw) or by extension the community's many contributions through the friendfeed medium. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. - Micah Wittman

friend feed is totally awesome! - Bishal Adhikary

great one man... - Bishal Adhikary

COMMENT 1) "There's a lot more than me here. http://friendfeed.com/ninjamo.... shows lots of things that are getting engagement. - Robert Scoble" http://friendfeed.com/ninjamo... ... COMMENT 2) "You are not following the right people. This is always the problem if FriendFeed isn't working for you. - Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF" http://friendfeed.com/ninjamo... - Micah Wittman

I just looked, and http://friendfeed.com/ninjamo... still is getting a lot of engagement and there's is stuff to learn there. - Micah Wittman

Robert, I am considered a "geek" by a number of people, but I don't need or want to talk about technology 24/7. I have other interests and I like to see where they connect. I want to see coalescence. I can't get disparate connections always watching or listening to the same track. Even Richard Feynman believed that...as do many others in other "geek" fields. When I was little I happened... more... - Melanie Reed

Robert, are you reading the tech related groups? If you read Best of you are going to get all sorts of stuff as you know. I have lists and saved searches for specific topics and browse them for the likes of tech. Best of it not the best place for tech only (well any single topic). - Kol Tregaskes

I've come to the conclusion that all of Robert's posts must be read with one fact kept in mind. Even when he doesn't say it, his posts are based on the assumption that many/most people want and like what he wants. - Eoghann Irving

Robert, why do you constantly feel the need to shake the death rattle? We are well aware that FF is dying and even more aware that you see it coming. If you really did care about the service you would try to reverse the trend instead of speeding it up. - Jason Williams from iPhone

Robert I joined FF when I saw you singing praises of it on Twitter and have been loving it ever since, you seem to have a lot of interesting stuff to say, and a lot of people follow you. But, you seriously need to stop coming to FriendFeed and doing everything in your considerable power to kill it, and then complain because you are successful in doing that. Twitter is for people who like shouting through megaphones in a crowd of people shouting through megaphones, FF is for people who like conversations. - Ed Millard

@edmillard ..said the man who only imports one thing into FF, his Twitter account.. seriously though. Scoble can't kill FF because it's already dead, it just doesn't know it yet. And yes, I am still using it for a bit because it makes such a handy searchable archiving/surfacing tool, and for some aspects of the community. But the reality is that FF founder's sold out b/c they were lacking confidence that they could change FF sufficiently/quickly enough to sustain any real growth. - Alex Schleber

So FriendFeed founders gave up and sold out to Zuckerberg more or less for the liquidation value, i.e. for their IP and continued highly-skilled/paid labor for FB. It's that simple. Thinking about it any other way is a fantasy. 5 Stages of Grief... And yes, it pains me to say it. Had high hopes for this platform. I wish they would have found a way to evolve FF where it would have continued to grow, I don't think they were very far off. It's like the gold-miners who gave up 10 ft from the mother lode. - Alex Schleber

Alex you are mistaken, most of my recent posts are from FF and sometimes cross posted to Twitter if they are short and not FF specific. I didn't know the FF etiquette that twitter posts are shunned when I started. Most of my limited time here is spent in comments anyway, since I prefer the conversations to the megaphone. - Ed Millard

@Ed "Twitter is for people who like shouting through megaphones in a crowd of people shouting through megaphones, FF is for people who like conversations." You basically summed up my blog post about this whole thing (http://friendfeed.com/bluecoc...)... - Fa La La La Lindsay

Lindsey, same concept, yours was thorough, mine was short. I think part of being a geek is we opt for the superior tech, not the popular tech. FB and Twitter are popular but inferior for conversation. I had no interest in them until I found FF recently. Its a problem we geeks are letting Zuckerberg kill the superior tech here with his checkbook. I'm thinking we should launch an open friend feed like directeur is talking about, free of business conflicts. It is the geek thing to do but it would be hard. - Ed Millard

One bad day does not mean it is bad for the whole year :) - ashish

don't you ever get tired of hitting refresh every other minute? - Giancarlo Caparo

LOL, let's see you sort though hundreds of reply of Twitter, shoot a video of that... - Robert Higgins

*yawns* - T. Brent, technopeasant

Sadly, FF has largely become a photo sharing, jokes and food pics sharing site - tech community is gone. - Susan Beebe

Yes, Twitter really has raised the bar in that arena. - Glen, Bespectacled Elder

Glen LOL - Susan Beebe

ZING! I shared a lame joke a few minutes ago, Susan! http://ff.im/aTQG6 I don't feel really bad about it. That's true, many people know me as a developer, but I'm not only that. I'm a jazz/anime/languages... LOVER :) - directeur

If only someone would have told Robert that his feed is his own creation and if he is unhappy there is only one place to look fir the reason. Oh, wait... - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF) from iPod

seriously, talk about mis-matched comparisons. This general list is less focused than that built-for-a-purpose list? Well, no offense, but no shit, Sherlock. - Chieze Okoye

Le bon vieux piston ! La moitié des Français interrogés par un sondage estiment que le piston est le meilleur moyen pour trouver un emploi. Et seulement 10% pensent que c'est par le biais des offres d'emploi. Etonnant, non ? - Agnès Maillard

Pas etonnant, au contraire. Les offres d'emploi sont des bouteilles a la mer et le piston (que d'aucuns enrubannent du nom plus politiquement correcte: des relations) est bien le meilleur moyen de trouver un job. Mais ca n'engage que moi. - lelapin

oui, on préférera dire "réseau" parce que le lien est moins fort, tu n'es pas sûr d'avoir le poste, mais tu as eu des éléments qui t'ont permis d'avoir plus de chances (sans tricher), non ? - tristan

L'argument gratuit/payant est faux. Je n'ai jamais vu personne acheter MS Office pour la maison, c'est en laissant faire le piratage il y a une 15aine d'années que MS Office a gagné sa place dans les entreprises, où là MS est très attentionné pour se faire payer. Sur les fonctionnalités, Open Office ne ressemble pas du tout à MS Office, la logique de construction d'un document est... more... - Thierry Lhôte

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Réflexion vraiment intéressante ! Clairement OOo est un clone très peu innovant, mais stable et gratuit. Les document PDF qu'il génère sont très pro, les formats sont ouverts et assurent la pérennité des données pour les prochaines années. Mais OOo est un ogre, pas forcément intuitif, très lourd au lancement. Office 2007 est nettement meilleurs que ses précédentes versions, mais souffre... more... - BobbySponge

Personnellement j'utilise de plus en plus Google Docs pour l'aspect "cloud" et collaboration. La simplicité de l'outil me va bien aussi. En ce sens, l'outil simple que prone Bobbysponge est déjà là ;-). - Stanislas Jourdan

Etant maintenant sous linux, j'aurais peut être l'occasion de tester ooo plus en profondeur mais c'est vrai que 10 de ms office m'ont largement habitué à l'outil... - Stanislas Jourdan

Suis sous Ubuntu et je dois reconnaitre que MS Office est plus performant. Open Office, pour du traitement de texte, c'est suffisant mais en tant que tableur Excel est tout de même mieux. - Françoise

Voici trois analyses détaillées pour comparaison entre OpenOffice 2.3 et Microsoft Office 2007. Résultats : OOo Writer > Word http://www.linux.com/archive... / OOo Calc = Excel http://www.linux.com/archive... / OOo Impress < Powerpoint http://www.linux.com/archive... . Bon le truc date un peu puisque la dernière version d'Open Office est la 3.1.1 qui représente un saut par rapport à celle utilisée pour la comparaison Open Office 2.3 - Thierry Lhôte

Sinon, il y a un petit truc, si vous voulez éditer un document (livre, mémoire, thèse) avec un rendu et une qualité professionnelle pour l'impression, le mieux c'est de laisser tomber les traitements de texte et se tourner vers des outils comme le Latex. - Thierry Lhôte

Sinon, il reste le crayon, le papier et la gomme :) - Françoise

Je préfère encore le crayon/papier/gomme à LaTeX ! Et dire que j'avais des enseignants qui nous forçait à utiliser cet outil d'hérétique pour nos rapports de projets :/ - BobbySponge

Bah ca dépend, le jour ou j'ai sauvé la thèse d'un pote de plus de 160 pages, parce que Microsoft Office ne voulait plus réouvrir le fichier qu'il avait lui-même corrompu... j'ai compris les limites de l'outil. :-( D'ailleurs c'est classique, je rattrape en permanence chez mes potes et mes voisins les défauts et les embûches des produits MS. - Thierry Lhôte

Et oui, le sens du sacrifice! En temps qu'utilisateur confirmé de LaTeX, je te comprend, mais pour quelqu'un qui n'y connait rien, qui n'imagine même pas devoir "compiler" un document pour en produire le rendu et qui n'a tout simplement pas le temps, LaTeX peut donner quelques sueurs froides :) Moi on ne me demande plus rien en info car j'ai pris l'habitude de répondre que j'aidais que... more... - BobbySponge

Bobbysponge, juste pour rebondir sur linux : Je suis passé à linux depuis maintenant 2 mois, et je peux te dire que la transition n'est vraiment pas évidente. Ca va que je suis débrouillard et que j'avais la ferme volonté de tester plus longtemps que 2 jours, pour me faire une idée du truc. Par exemple, je ne sais toujours pas installer un logiciel manuellement, je n'ai toujours pas... more... - Stanislas Jourdan

Sinon il y a Page (sur Mac), très stable, mais possédant moins de fonctions qu'Office. - Sycophante

La réponse de FramaSoft : http://www.framablog.org/index... - Stanislas Jourdan

Pas très argumentée comme réponse - Samuel Goëta

Non en effet, je suis plutot surpris - Stanislas Jourdan

La réponse du gars de Framasoft ne porte pas sur l'intégralité de l'article de Slate, mais uniquement sur le défaut de connaissances, mêmes basique, du journaliste de Slate sur les mondes du Libre et de l'Open Source. Je ne tiens pas à rentrer dans les détails mais globalement, les paragraphes cités sont bourrés d'assertions fausses ou comme on dit "à côté de la plaque". Il est évident qu'il ne sait pas de quoi il cause. - Thierry Lhôte

Tiens, en plus je me suis renseigné, si vous tapez le nom de celui qui a écrit cet article sur MIcrosoft Office, bah vous verrez qu'en fait c'est un journaliste spécialisé dans le Business et les sujets de société. CQFD, le gars est bien une burne. Bref du magazine light... Bon c'est surement un article alimentaire... ;-) - Thierry Lhôte

Posted via web from scobleizer's posterous - Robert Scoble from Posterous

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Nice post, btw. I think the only reason why I use FF now is when Twitter may be down (which, seems, doesn't happen very often...but appears to be down now for me). For now, I'll glance at FF but rarely use it as a primary way to track threads of conversation. - Chris Judson

I'm using Friendfeed more now than I ever have. I think in part because of the community problems at Flick due to the censorship. I've largely abandoned Flickr for community and we've (at least temporarily) moved a group of people over here to Friendfeed in DMU. Friendfeed has been censorship free and largely unmoderated in contrast to other communities on the web. Rather than tell you... more... - Thomas Hawk

Robert: I confess, I too have found myself moving away from FF and spending more time on Twitter. I agree with some of your points but for not so geeky reasons. If you're building brand you want to be where the people are, well if you're doing anything really. In order to have success we have to be where everyone is, unless the place you are is so cool and has such a huge upside you... more... - Owen Greaves

Friendfeed is a social aggregation service for me more than anything else. I use it solely for posting other message to Twitter. The problem is that while it is great for that, its main focus is being the client you use to interact with social media, not just a background wiring. Until they start progressing with things like search capabilities, I don't believe it will really turn into the 'client' you use to work with social media. - Tyler (Chacha)

I agree with Tyler. Friendfeed has some unbeatable (at the moment) social aggregation features. I also find some of the conversations tend to be more in depth and less fleeting than Twitter. However, there is a lot of competition out there that continues to drive innovation and Facebook will need to continue to invest in Friendfeed or it will lose its share of the social market. - Chris Rogers from BuddyFeed

I have no expectation that Facebook will make any further investment in FriendFeed. Bret and Paul should come clean about this. Not doing so is just being evil and a sign that they have sold out the FriendFeed community. They have probably drank too much of the Facebook Kool-Aid though to venture back from the dark side. - scott anderson

Excellent read, timely as that other commenter said, especially since my last 12 logins (~2 months) included something about its changing appearance to the users. A vision I wasn't sharing but is beginning to be understood well. A educational documentary on the situation would be perfectly suited as its themes and definitions are all in the 'net entity's peripheral processing and... more... - ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,

Doh! 911 characters hehe, that 'comment', I suppose, would've not happened if FF wasn't. Not with FB, nor Twitter. Nothing presents us with this like this. That's all. Maybe a small-timer commercially, but for the current user it's not the point. - ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,

happy - michael sean wright

friendfeed's embedable realtime feed rooms are amazing - they're so easy to drop into blog pages and add content to instantly via a bookmarklet. the friendfeed tech is just so powerful and simple that i'd hate to lose it, especially since i don't think anyone is near it in functionality. maybe facebook embedded content will get more powerful, but until then... i really hope it sticks around - Kevin

Kevin: FriendFeed isn't going anywhere. I don't know why people think I'm saying that the technology will disappear. I doubt it will for years and only after Facebook matches its feature set and provides an upgrade path. But what I am saying is we won't see many more features here. - Robert Scoble

Robert: FriendFeed has for all intensive reasons all but disappeared really, 30% drop in usage, virtually no communication from the new owner what they may or may not do with the technology, or when they will integrate the real-time / search I should say. - Owen Greaves

I started to comment and ended up writing a Blog post.. Friendfeed please don't go away http://new2me.posterous.com/friendf... (http://ff.im/a57K2) - Chris Myles

Robert, it's occurred to me on a number of occasions to put together a timeline showing when you were pushing Twitter at the expense of FriendFeed, and when you were pushing FriendFeed at the expense of Twitter, and how often it has flip-flopped completely. But it's not worth the effort to wade through 18 months of noise. You generate interesting conversations sometimes, but I've... more... - LogEx

PR is always selling something -- "how does PR become even more deceptive?" might be a better title. - Brian Sullivan

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tsk, tsk, Brian. I endeavor to provide value and help people with great content.... - Valeria Maltoni

But of course you are not selling anything. - Brian Sullivan

+1 Brian. - directeur

not getting the condescension - why? - Valeria Maltoni

@Directeur - how's the project going? http://www.conversationagent.com/2009... - Valeria Maltoni

PRs job is not to sell something? - Brian Sullivan

The sad part is going to be in the future is no one is going to believe you when you say you are not selling something. Tons of credibility is going to be lost in the next few years. - Dan Morrill AKA Techwag

Brian, you started with "deceptive". Business' job is to sell - many touch points to do that. Product/service delivery being an important one. Everyone's getting paychecks when a sale is made. We're shifting from push to pull. From marketing at to building value with... or am I wrong? - Valeria Maltoni

@Dan do we know each other? 'cause I wouldn't presume to call you "sad" without getting to know you. - Valeria Maltoni

quick question to the title jumpers - have you actually read the post? Not very long, either. - Valeria Maltoni

So you are selling something but you want to make it look like you are not selling something -- wouldn't that be the definition of deceptive? - Brian Sullivan

Definition - public relations is the art and science of establishing relationships between your organization and its key audiences. Educating is part of that. Just like you do with social media, actually... I cannot defend the profession, as I know many do it the push way. I can only speak for the way I work. - Valeria Maltoni

@Valeria, so so... thanks! :-) My very humble view on the subject is that marketing is about selling, always. Now what you sell (the product) to whom you sell it (the client) and for what is the question. That humble project for eg. was an attempt to bring attention on another kind of socialmedia, and standards like microformats, apml, xfn... The interesting question now -and I guess... more... - directeur

@Directeur- yeah, but "how" we sell today has changed a great deal. Probably more indirect than ever with peers being a determining factor in what we look into. Current economic context has money = value. That's why it's so hard for organizations to think that the social Web has value... work in progress, like human nature. - Valeria Maltoni

Brian, you're an ignorant slut. - Chris Baskind

This is epic! - D. Eda Goze from iPhone

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FANTASTIC - R_ C

En son karar değiştirip yukarıdan kurtarması inanılacak şey değil. - Özer (Wrzl) Dölekoğlu

Kriz anında karar verebilmek diyelim mi buna? Hem de kralı! - Omer Ekinci

vay be... - Burak Güven (Cimbakuka)

evlat psikolojisi her daim geçerli... - zeynep

olağanüstü - Okan Vardarova

Wow! - Kol Tregaskes

wow diyorum!! şövalye ruhu diye buna derim ben =) - utkan alp

This is th coolest...great problem solving... - Robyn Hawk

Love this video but it makes me a bit sad - the dog that saves him seems a bit freaked out - Tamara

Anladık kurtardın da ne diye taa oraya sürüklüyorsun ki hayvanı :) - Yasemin

İşte köpekleri -çoğu- insandan çok sevme sebebim. Çoğu insana kızdığımızda "köpek" deriz ama emin olalım ki çoğu insan köpek kadar fedakar, gururlu, sadık olamaz. Benim köpeğime araba çarptı ve öldü, oradan biliyorum. - Ergin Eker

peki hayvanlara yapılan bu eziyeti izleyerek gülmek sizce ne kadar etik?? - meral bozucu

kısaca hayvanlara "hayvanlık" yapılıyor. - Ergin Eker

lütfen bunu kaldırın burdan... - meral bozucu

ben hayvanlara "hayvanlık" yapılıyor lafımı buradaki mini-görüntü için söylemedim, yanlış anlaşılmasın. hayvanlara işkence yapanlaraydı tamamen sitemim. hayvan savunucusu falan değilimdir ama tabii ki kimse işkence görülmesini istemez. :) - Ergin Eker

Meral hanım: Gizle dersiniz olur biter. - Özer (Wrzl) Dölekoğlu

Ben ortada bir eziyet göremedim. Bildiğim kadarıyla pek çok köpek iyi yüzücüdür ve o yavrunun da hemen öyle 1dk'da boğulmayacağından eminim. Zaten yavru eğer batmaya başlarsa eminim ki o köpeğin sahibi elindeki video kamerayı bırakıp gidip hayvancağızı kurtarır. - Kadirhan

gizlemekle sorun çözülemez Özer (Wrzl) Dölekoğlu ortada bir sorun varsa bu sorun tartışılmaldır. kadirhan, boğulabilirdi! - meral bozucu

köpekler doğuştan yüzücüdür diye biliyorum. yeni doğmuş bir köpeğe orası derindir ama kurtarılan köpek en az 3-4 aylık var gibi. - Ergin Eker

Yapmayın Allah aşkına ya... http://alkislarlayasiyorum.com/icerik... - Kadirhan

bakın burda o köpeğin yüzme bilip bilmediğini tartışmıyorum. son derece güç durumda bir hayvanın sizin geyiğinize malzeme olmaması gerektiğine inanıyorum. ve bu videonun buradan kaldırılmasını talep ediyorum. siz hala 3ün 5in hesabındasınız! - meral bozucu

Kaldırırsak nasıl tartışılır üzerinde ki? Bu gif (video) sizde ayrı etki yaratmakta ve başkalarında farklı. Bu konuyla alakalı doktor House'ın süper teşhisleri vardır. - Özer (Wrzl) Dölekoğlu

That dog DOES seem frantic. They were probably two blocks away when he finally stopped dragging the little one. - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

Oyh meral troll çıktı, hemen bloklana! - Özer (Wrzl) Dölekoğlu

"Le site est pourtant toujours en ligne, et il n'est pas question de le suspendre. Mais il est retombé dans l'anonymat du web, où il ne survit plus que pour ses fonctions initiales. Cette brusque coupure montre que FriendFeed n'a pas seulement été soudainement rejoint pour ce qu'il était, c'est-à-dire un agrégateur de flux personnes que certains apprécient. Car cela ne suffit pas à mériter un travail d'évangélisation par les "early adopters"." - Stanislas Jourdan from Bookmarklet

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Tous les A-listers ont choisis de privilégier Twitter et Facebook de manière à bien être positionnés le jour où Facebook lancera les fonctionnalités de Friendfeed dans Facebook. On sait bien que friendfeed.com n'a pas d'avenir en terme de développement, les ex-employés de FF ayant été dispatchés dans des équipes pré-existantes à l'IPO. Pour moi, le boulevard est Twitter, Facebook ou un... more... - Jérôme Flipo

Je suis quand même d'accord avec l'article. Friendfeed est maintenant un peu condamné et ne percera pas (plus) en France. J'y vois une raison, Friendfeed, pour peu que l'on suive un peu de monde prend énormément de temps si on veut interagir. Même s'il semble pour moi aujourd'hui le meilleur (je n'ai pas vu wave, n'ayant pas d'invit, snif...), j'attend le prochain qui arrivera à percer. En attendant, twitter. - tristan

Dommage qd même, c'était bien pratique ... en tout cas, c'est pas sa disparition qui me fera revenir sur Facebook, qui, je penses, n'a pas du tout le même objectif. Wave peut-être prendra le dessus avec des waves privées ? - BobbySponge

bah nous on est tjrs sur FF, et twitter lui arrive pas à la cheville pour les discussions qu'on établit la par ex :p Moi j'ai mon invitation Wave dans le tuyau (un ami me l'a envoyée, j'attends de recevoir....), a première vue, l'interface est tellement compliquée, que ça n'aura pas l'impact simple et immédiat de FF. - y!onel

En même temps, lire le figaro pour les fait divers et les commentaires réac, je dis oui ,mais pour la partie techno.... ;) - y!onel

Ah oui, les faits divers je les lis toujours sur le figaro. Y a des bons morceaux de France dedans. Avant y avait le service militaire pour rencontrer les vrais gens, maintenant y a les forums du Figaro ^_^ - Anne Trotro

FriendFeed a encore un peu de temps à vivre, facebook ne coupera le courant que lorsque l'herbe sera plus verte ailleurs. En attendant, twitter et facebook seront bien sûr indispensables, mais les early adopters migreront ailleurs encore une fois ;-) - Stanislas Jourdan

Ca fait quand même vraiment chier pour Friendfeed... :( - Sycophante

FriendFeed (en dépit de son interface assez "brouillon") est un bon compromis entre les flux RSS et le micro-blogging: Facebook c'est le foutoir et Twitter est trop bruyant pour moi ... - BobbySponge

Facebook va énormément évoluer d'ici là... ;-) - Stanislas Jourdan

En attendant, c'est pas wave qui va remplacer Friendfeed... Il est déjà difficile de convaincre de nouveaux utilisateurs non informaticiens d'utiliser et de comprendre friendfeed alors ... Friendfeed est génial et c'est pour moi un drame dele voir racheté par Facebook (que je déteste pour moultes raisons). Quoi qu'on dise, on est encore ici pour quelques temps... - DAL

j'ai wave depuis ce matin et c vrai que c un peu lent et plutot confu niveau interface . La simplicité (apparente) de FF est quand même un atout majeur. - y!onel

C'est marrant j'ai l'impression de voir de nouvelles personnes sur FF ces derniers temps ! C'est moi qui délire ou vous constatez la même chose ? - Stanislas Jourdan

Je n'ai pas constaté d'arrivées massives, mais je me trompe peut-être. Mon adresse sur Google Wave si ça vous dit : monsieurautiste a googlawave.com. Sinon pour en revenir à la discussion, effectivement ça va être dur de se passer de Friendfeed, mais je suis agréablement surpris par Wave qui est tout simplement ... autre chose. Et c'est complémentaire à FriendFeed dans un sens... - Sycophante

Je ne parle pas d'arrivées massives, mais de personnes qui se font discrètement remarquer de temps en temps et que je ne voyais jamais avant. - Stanislas Jourdan

moi par exemple, je suis plutôt nouveau, après un 1er contact y a qques temps sans suivi et une grosse déception après la nouvelle du rachat. j'y suis revenu sûrement à une heure perdue, et je me suis laissé captivé par la capacité de centralisation des flux. -<flux> que je considère aussi essentiels que les neurones pour un cerveau, de là mon grand intérêt à friendfeed. je ne me fais... more... - jeunhommalunet

Oui d'ailleurs ça m'a étonné moi cette annonce de l'ouverture du code source de FF pratiquement au même moment ou FB le rachetait. FB doit surement se dire que maintenant ce ne sont plus les technos qui lui donnent sa valeur mais sa communauté d'utilisateurs. - y!onel

L'ouverture du code source FF c'est surtout parce que le projet est mort car FB a besoin de la techno des 4 anciens de Google qui ont fondé FF pour inventer le futur FB. Donc plutôt que de laisser complètement mourir FF, on lui donne une dernière chance en ouvrant le code, des fois que des développeurs veuillent s'en occuper gratuitement. ;-) Et si la techno ne donne pas de la valeur,... more... - Thierry Lhôte

Ben oui mais c ça que je comprends pas : FB va bien capitaliser sur la techno de FF. Donc comment tolérer qu'elle soit open source si il est si cruciale pour FB ? :( Je suis ok, certaines technos qui ont de la valeur ne passent pas open source (Le big table de Google par ex ;) . - y!onel

FB ne peut pas accueillir la techno de FF, rien a voir les deux sites. Ils vont reconstruire ou adapter FB. Et je n'ai pas dit que l'on passait une techno Open Source pour la dévaluer. - Thierry Lhôte

Je me permets une hypothèse sur la désaffection récente de friendfeed. Friendfeed est quand même plutôt chronophage, participer à plusieurs discussions parfois profondes (non pas philosophique mais avec un fond important (combien de fois ai-je dû relire votre commentaire Thierry pour le comprendre ici http://friendfeed.com/haroldp... ,... more... - tristan

@tristan je suis pas sur. Tu peux aussi utiliser FriendFeed de manière "superficielle" ;-) mais il est vrai que ce n'est pas trop le genre des irréductibes gaulois que nous sommes :). Non plus sérieusement je crois vraiment que le rachat a clairement fait oublier à tout le monde que FF existait, surtout ceux qui viennent de twitter qui y ont tous leurs followers là bas ;-)... - Stanislas Jourdan

De toute façon le probleme de FF a toujours été le même : son succès ou son échec dépend d'une double spirale vertueuse ou vicieuse. Communauté active --> attrait pour de nouveaux utilisateurs --> encore + activité (spirale vertueuse) ou au contraire : activité moyenne/faible --> aucun attrait / ennui --> baisse activité --> etc (spirale vicieuse) - Stanislas Jourdan

Phénomène classique autrement appelé effet de réseau (ou loi de Metcalfe ;-) - Stanislas Jourdan

yep, c'est sur, en tt cas le ticket millionnaire d'accès au cerveau des 4 googlers à l'origine de FF, a beaucoup pesé dans la balance pour la survie de cette idée. Cependant, cela risque d'être moins dramatique ou mélancolique que la fin de Geocities. - Thierry Lhôte

Ben c chronophage parce qu'on peut suivre une discussion effectivement construite et argumentée. Sur twitter on a un peu l'impression de twitter à la cantonnade un peu dans le vide :) Mais je ne pense que FF soit tant abandonné que ça pour la raison que pour l'instant, y'a pas de service équivalent. JE pense aussi que Twitter et FB qui veulent tout faire en même temps (surtout FB) en... more... - y!onel

Je suis totalement d'accord avec vous y!onel . C'est chronophage parce qu'abouti et génial - tristan

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