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Johnny Worthington
FOR ROCHELLE: Crumpets and English Muffins :D
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And an awesome shirt. - Joe Pierce
:D Very nice! The crumpets look smaller and inferior to the English muffins. - Rochelle
Indeed... But crumpets hold more butter per square inch so... Yeah - Johnny Worthington
More than meets the eye, eh? - CAJ, somewhere else
You mean vegemite, right? ;) - Brett Kelly
OPTIMUS PRIME - Josh Haley
more lessons in Aussie groceries please! - BEX
Autobots? Roll out! - Derrick
So basically you are the nerdiest mountain man in all of Australia? I can dig it. - Sparky
Find a mo or other disguise for your transformer and take a pic. - Josh Haley
I would just like to mention that I saw Rochelle's post at 5am this morning (10 hours ago). I have been bugging Rach to go to the shops all day JUST for this shot, which she took in the middle of a crowded supermarket... My wife FTW! - Johnny Worthington
English Muffins FTW - Mark Davidson
Johnny's wife FTMFW! Also: Johnny is pretty cool. - Bec Rowe @d0tski
Oooh, is that crumpet toast on special? - Bec Rowe @d0tski
Yay Rach! Also, I love your use of "the shops". - Rochelle
I'm rather dismayed that you are a Woolworths shopper. - Bryce Roney
I LOVE CRUMPET TOAST! - Mo Kargas
I love the look on Johnny's face that says "Any more damn questions?!?!?". - CAJ, somewhere else
For breakfast today, I had an English muffin with butter and maple syrup. - Rochelle
YUM... How was it Rochelle? - Johnny Worthington
I was just at the store this afternoon. Should have bought myself some english muffins. I would wake up early if it meant eating those! :) - Jon, the Beartato of '10
Bumping since this seems topical again. - Ken Sheppardson
CRUMPET TOAST CRUMPET TOAST - Mo Kargas
Trader Joe's carries crumpets (or at least they used to) so you can make a side-by-side comparison. To me it looks like what Australians call English muffins and what we call English muffins are the same. - Spidra Webster
I've still never tried English Muffins. They sell them here in Canada but I never had them in England - they don't exist there! - WorldofHiglet
Crumpet toast is awesome. That is all - Glenn Slaven
though one thing I miss here is oven bottoms. Now, *they* were really good.... - WorldofHiglet
Oven bottoms ? - Mo Kargas
This is the near future of shopping. "Honey, which do you want? Text me." - Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Josh Haley
My dance style is similar to Elmo's. - Jon, the Beartato of '10
FUCKYEAHNEILPATRICKHARRIS! - Haggis (Sean Loyless)
hhaha - Alan Le
I also make love similar to how Elmo is dancing. 0.o - Jon, the Beartato of '10
Jonathan, are you trying to get me to spit my drink all over my iPhone? - Josh Haley
*elmo laugh* - Jon, the Beartato of '10
The sensual side of grand mal seizures. - Christopher Harley
wth Jon wth - Alfredo
But no one makes love like Neil Patrick Harris is dancing? FAIL! - Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
My brother in law in the Philippines can't be dissuaded from naming his son Elmo. I hope that unborn boy is ready to be tormented for the rest of his life. Why do parents do that to their kids? - Bradley Farless
They just. don't. get. tired. - Josh Haley
That's me after about 12 beers. - Michael McKean
That's awesome! - Jim Graham
LMFAO - Danny Minick
hahah... this is going to be my best of the day! - AJ Batac
...he'll never live that Doogie Howser thing down this way. .LOLz - .LAG liked that
Wait till Pea sees this. If there was a way to make a animated GIF a background.. :) - CW™
Win. - Louis Gray
This needs to pop up in my feed a lot more than the 4 Asian nipple lickers. - Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Make it so. - Josh Haley
CW: There is... (active desktop, IIRC). - Tanath
Liking this even more for the fact that their dancing was synced with my music for a little bit - Tamara
NPH = the awesomest. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
So cute. - Ayşe E.
Barney'e bak sen :S - OnuRC
;) - Josh Haley
la-la la lah la-la la lah elmo's world... la-la la lah la-la la lah ELMO's world... elmo loves his goldfish and crayons, too... - Trish Haley
Call me crazy, but I want someone to superimpose Hugh Laurie's face on NPH just to watch him dance... - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Crazy! - Josh Haley
LOL Tina. - Trish Haley
The gif fills me with delight....always! :) - Jon, the Beartato of '10
Doogie's gay!? *shock* - Nathalie, Dreamer of FF
DANCE BARNEY DANCE - Haggis (Sean Loyless)
yeah! whip it baby! whip it good! - AJ Batac
hot. Elmo, that is. hot. - anna sauce
Don't you wish your monster was hot like me? Don't you? - Josh Haley
++ Josh - Rachel Lea Fox
I feel like dancing now. Oh OH OH OH yeah! - Jon, the Beartato of '10
*OOOO* He's probably my favorite celebrity/actor. Love love LOVE him! NPH ftw!! *dance dance* - D. Eda Goze
旁边那个布偶一直在上下晃脑袋 - K.D.
Is there a party in his tummy? So yummy! So yummy! (yes, I know that's from a different show) - Kevin Sablan
发现这是伍佰TX的花朵舞啊!!flower dance~~ - K.D.
:)))) - فائزه
He is seriously working it :D - Joe Dawson
Forgive me. It's been 3 hours since the last comment. - Josh Haley
I've seen this so many times today and I laugh every time I see it. I really don't think it could get old. - Tracy McLaughlin
that's why it's the best of day - Alfredo
hahahaah! - Carmen - Happy 2010!
I haven't seen this enough today. - Michael McKean
ای بابا 1248 کیلوبایت از پهنای باند منو خوردی - egza
3 more likes and we hit 200. C'mon now... - Josh Haley
200! yay! Thanks Bryce, Mel and Mr. Robot! - Josh Haley
go elmo, go elmo...! - imabonehead
Still happenin'! - Christopher Harley
I can't let you kill this thread, Harley. - Josh Haley
Once NPH and Elmo stopped dancing and it was sad, so they just decided to be awesome and dance instead. True story. - Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Still dancing.... - Mathew A. Koeneker
they're tireless. - Alejandro
You know, in my heart I hope that people like NPH who seem just so damn awesome on the screen are just as cool in real life. Anyone met the fellow in person? - Adam Lasnik
I'm sure he's a decent guy. Never met him, though. - Josh Haley
But he sure can dance, just look at him go! - Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
Dr Horrible cuttin the rug LOL - martha
This gif just doesn't stop making me smile. :-) - Mathew A. Koeneker
grind - Josh Haley
i watch Sesame Street every weekday morning with my kids and he's been on several times. always awesome. - Joe Silence is Dr. Teeth!
It's been too long. - Josh Haley
He's dancing in time with the song I'm listening to (Post Service - Sleeping in). - Yolanda
I planned that just for you, Yolanda. :) - Josh Haley
Yay! Thanks, Josh. I feel speshul. <3 - Yolanda
You awww! You awww! </Marissa Tomei from My Cousin Vinnie> - Josh Haley
wanted to see this again :D - Alfredo
hell yeah - Josh Haley
Nothing about this .gif ceases to bring me smiles. :-) - Mathew A. Koeneker
It's time. - Josh Haley
There should be more Elmo. Elmo has the power of ten kittehs - Slappy Line
Bump! Cause you havn't seen this enough. :D - CW™
they don't stop! - docrivs
Bump for the Fun of it.. :P - CW™
w00t - Josh Haley
Ah, man, I can't like this again. :( - Alix Whitmire
so funny! - barbarars
So sexay. - Spidra Webster
Love him when he's unicorn watching. - Gabrielle V
Okay, I swear I am not just pimpin' good swing music, but I was looking at this GIF and listening to this song - http://lala.com/zPe9 ("Billie's Bounce" performed live by Buddy Rich) - and it matches! :o - Adam Lasnik
^____^ - Josh Haley
This still makes me laugh. - Christian (Simply X)
w00t - Josh Haley
Much love for NPH, I think he is awesomeness personified - arekayelle
1 more like to get to 300. - Josh Haley
YAY! Over 300 likes! It's my first time, was it good for you? - Josh Haley
Gross. I just unliked to be contrary. Yet another reason why I pulled back from FriendFeed. And why getting swallowed up by Facebook, the great leveler, couldn't make more sense. - Rick Powell
That's right, all you horrible time-wasters you! Get back to talking about kernels and APIs! Have you no Protestant work-ethic? /sarcasm - Neal Jansons
More power to ya, Rick. - Josh Haley
por eso es que friendfeed le podria ganar a twitter, porque las opciones no son tan limitadas, jajajajaja - Ferzvladimir
keep on with the force don't stop... don't stop til you get enough - docrivs
needed to see this again ^_^ - Alfredo
YAY! - Josh Haley
Woot Woot...go elmo go elmo...!!! - Bill Heslin
HA! This is funny no matter how many times you see it! =) - David Cook - 2010!!!
NPH was great on the Emmy awards tonight. - Josh Haley
Josh, agreed! - imabonehead
Dancing Elmo and NPH....yes..yes..bring it Friendfeed. :-) - Mathew A. Koeneker
AND THE PARTY DON'T STOP 'TIL 6 IN THE MORNING! - Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
actually the party won't stop...ever - Alfredo
bump - Alfredo
w00t - Josh Haley
FTW! - Jay
Dude would you just start up Skype, Ustream and call Johnny, already? - CW™
party elmo is partying - Alfredo
ha ha, Thanks CW but no can do right now. - Josh Haley
Hell yes! - Nicholas Kreidberg
I guess that is where God took him............. - VAL D. Zone
This thread must NEVER die - Slappy Line
he's baaaaaaaaaaack! - Richard pancakhaus Walker
Dance, dance, dance. - Jason Huebel
He just joined Twitter: @ActuallyNPH - Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕ from iPhone
Steve Rubel
"Three Reasons You Need to Be on FriendFeed *Now*" - http://bhc3.wordpress.com/2009...
"Three Reasons You Need to Be on FriendFeed *Now*"
Actually, I'm getting tired of Friendfeed. Most discussion is vapid, banal and inconsequential. IOW, a waste of time. - Dawn
Me too Matthew. I use it that way to some degree. - Steve Rubel from email
Is there a way to get a friend feed onto a personal web site? - Peter Fletcher
Thanks for posting this Steve. And Dawn, are you deliberately ironic? Regardless, this post is for those who may not have the time to engage actively here, but will still benefit from being part of the service. - Hutch Carpenter
Thanks Brian. - Peter Fletcher
Nice work but a lil late on this BNO - sofarsoShawn
Peter, you can also embed an individual thread on your site by copying the code from the "Share" link - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Oh, Dawn, that's rich cause I blocked you for bringing vapid, banal, and inconsequential stuff to friendfeed a while back. All you have to do is look at all the items from the Google I/O conference to see just how wrong you are: http://is.gd/HaUQ - Robert Scoble
"Personal Content Database" is quite apt (especially if we could have our service icons back) - When working in twitter and waiting for twitter's page to refresh a new post, it is quicker to jump to FriendFeed, because the post is there instantly. - Chris Loft
@rahsheen thanks for the tip. - Peter Fletcher
BS, Robert. You blocked me because I'm not one of your sycophants but actually challenge your assumptions, motivations and actions. Like when I said you were neglecting your blog, you retaliated against me, but just two weeks later, Arrington said the same thing and you took that seriously. But I'm just a female, right Robert?...somebody you keep calling stupid, even though I'm sure my... more... - Dawn
Amen to that! - Calvin Ayre
Dawn: you don't even have a clue about why I blocked you. It's cause you were arguing religion and politics and had no clue who Ralph Reed was and then you followed it up with the lamest posts on global warming I've seen that it made me wonder why I was arguing with someone so clueless (and I forget there were a few other things you were arguing about). So much for that high grade point average. By the way, I don't remember Mike Arrington ever talking about that stuff. - Robert Scoble
BTW: I unblocked her for some reason, I still don't know why. Oh, yeah, my brother stuck up for her and so far I've seen just the lamest additions to the community, like this one here. If friendfeed's discussion is vapid, banal, and inconsequential IT IS OUR FAULT. So, Dawn, this one is on you. Good riddens, I say. - Robert Scoble
Ahh, community. - τorƍue
#4 Bacon - sofarsoShawn
Yeah, right, Robert. I'm so lame that Louis Gray announced both on his blog and on FF that I'm a great person to follow. And you're comment about Ralph Reed just once again shows your bigotry against Christians, lumping us all in one basket - that far right fundamentalist basket that you once belonged to and now despise. I never did belong to it. I'm Catholic, not "born again." I've had... more... - Dawn
Btw, two people have DM'd me that Scoble is best ignored. I can't do that. Being the target of repeated and consistent defamation by Robert Scoble isn't the same as Joe Blow FFer calling you an idiot. Robert's words carry a lot of weight in the tech world. I've asked Robert privately and politely to back off and as you can see, he's refused to do that. I not only have the right to defend myself, but I have a duty to my present and future investors and to my future employees. - Dawn
FriendFeed's usefullness to me would increase 100% if I could automatically filter out every post with "friendfeed" in the title. That way I could get rid of the constant yapping about how great it is, and actually use it usefully. - Ian Betteridge
Bump for the good times. - Mark Krynsky
This is a post from last may! The situation has totally changed since then - DC Crowley
"even though I'm sure my IQ is higher than yours. Were you valedictorian of your high school? Or graduate magna cum laude? Did you get a graduate degree with honors" wow that means even i don't qualify :( - ffcode
I agree, I think we should try to save Friendfeed. - Hunt from iPhone
Duncan Riley
10 Classic Google Search Suggestions - http://www.inquisitr.com/41967...
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Robert Scoble
I predict that lists will rejuvenate Twitter. Why? Each list will have its own timeline. Twitter is finally adding FriendFeed features
Next, they need to add comments to their new RT API... - Dennis Jernberg
I would hate that - Robert Scoble from iPhone
Robert Scoble
koltregaskes: How Posterous could be the next Friendfeed - pingmicro http://ff.im/6rkDd - http://twitter.com/koltreg...
lol, what a ridiculous statement - Mark
you still continue friendfeed ? I thought you decided to quit :P - Melissa Taylor
If Friendfeed was a funnel, Posterous is a trumpet. (Facebook is more trummel than fumpet) #slightlyforcedobjectmetaphors - goodmachine
Thanks for the fave, Robert. Svartling passed it onto me. - Kol Tregaskes
I still thinks that Posterous has the potential to take over some of Friendfeeds features. They have great developers too! The comment system is really great. - Svartling
And here is the link to this post (mine): http://pingmicro.com/how-pos... - Svartling
more lifestreaming features could come soon in some existing services - polou/indigo_bow
Yes probably. Lifestreaming are going mainstream. - Svartling from email
Robert Scoble
Facebook is unusable? That's what I'm reading here. Well, please explain how 300 million use it then. Including my wife, my son, me, and ALL of Maryam's elementary school friends from Iran.
I think most mean it's not as comfortable as FriendFeed. - Amit Morson
I think some of the stuff I'm reading about Facebook is laughable. Really? I went over and used it tonight and the news feed is very similar to FriendFeed. The technology from here will fit right in. - Robert Scoble
Actually, Robert's right. FriendFeed's basically a superior version of the Facebook news feed. - Dennis Jernberg
I wish Friend Feed was keyboard navigatable though. Google Reader and GMail have spoiled me; making me think that web apps can be usable as well. I don't like using the mouse so much. - Travis B. Hartwell
It's gotten a bit easier since they started copying Twitter/Friendfeed...but its the third-party silly stuff that puts me off. Serious stuff was always better here in Friendfeed. - George Hall (Australia)
we are compatable, hell the wedding is over put the shotguns down and lets all party like geeks. go to bed. love you all. you may friend me at any one of these places as lisbethwest. gnite! - lisbethwest
George: I ignore all that stuff, it never bothered me. - Robert Scoble
When do do we get hear what the plan actually is? I have used the FF app in facebook from time to time. But the problem is facebook is clunky due to it's massive membership so I tend click back to here. Is FB really going to get faster? It be smart to have both running in tandem methinks no? - BairdWilliamson
Facebook is like the social housing estate next door. There are some decent people living there, and there are some pockets of nobs who will steal the hubcaps off your car and throw them through your windows while trying to sell some dodgy dvd's on the street corners. - Gilbert Harding
PS yoono makes it groovy and friendbar keeps it happy - lisbethwest
Almost everyone I know IRL uses Facebook, but increasingly grudgingly. - LogEx
I know millions of people who use four remote controls to watch TV. - Luca Sofri
It is not usable in the way that friendfeed is (I know there are problems) - Paul Kinlan
but facebook is soo complicated - Paul Kinlan
I'll go with the train. If the train heads to Facebook I suppose thats where I need to go as well :) I'm absolute certain that FF staff will have a great impact on the user experience of FB. Trying to be positive I also think it's a great thing that FB still strive to evolve. - Patrik Arwengrim
Facebook is ugly, looks like a corporate site and very slow and clunky, like a busy factory with adds at every corner - Thierry Lhôte
Baird: software takes months. Paul is right. But Paul, you can just ignore a lot of the complexity there. - Robert Scoble
hhahaha, sth. like that i thought this second too, Luca :) - Ronald
Facebook is unusable to do the things that FriendFeed can do - Anthony Feint
lol, the #1 excuse I hear for people migrating from FriendFeed to Facebook is the annoying applications on the home feed. You can edit those out of your view you know. Same for people you don't want to converse with (privacy settings). - Hugh Isaacs II
@Robert - I find Facebook extremely useful... for playing Mafia and FarmTown style games. Engagement is just difficult there. I'm not sure if it's the UI, the crowd I have there, or what, but I just don't get into a comfortable conversational groove there on FB the way I do on Twitter or here. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
in fact, the four founders of Friendfeed recieved a trader bonus, for doing real-time search on Facebook, not changing Facebook to become Friendfeed - Thierry Lhôte
Robert - you're confusing number of users with ease of use. Millions of people of all ages used to be happy with their cellphones, but it wasn't until the iPhone came along that those people saw how usable a phone *could* be. - Andrew Terry
Anthony: like start a mob war? :-) - Robert Scoble
robert: I think it is hard to ignore the complexity, it took me ages to upload a phote once (or even find where to do it) - Paul Kinlan
robert: and there is no discovery... I love ff for its friend of a friend features and best of the day.... oh and my discussions. - Paul Kinlan
On Facebook i really only have my closest friends and family as "friends". I think i will not change that. I believe i am not the only one - Flynn (Michael A. Volz)
I think someone hit the nail on the head. The one thing really missing from the Facebook experience is the sort of engagement we have here at Friendfeed. - George Hall (Australia)
robert: no sharing content is what im talking about. I actually don't personally know the people I follow on FriendFeed. many are influencers like yourself. This is where I get my news. On Facebook you have Friends not Followers - Anthony Feint
anyway, the key way to tell something is not friendly to someone, it is listening to that someone. That someone says it's not. You can't go and tell him he's wrong in what he doesn't like. - Luca Sofri
Anthony: that's changing and quickly. My Facebook looks exactly like FriendFeed. - Robert Scoble
Why are you using FF and Twitter and not FB then? Besides, they totally hid the applications so anything not out of the box is hard to get to. Advanced functionalities are hard to get to. It's the only site I can think of that I had to use the Help section to find stuff... - Eran Kampf from iPhone
@Anthony Actually Facebook has a following feature http://startupmeme.com/faceboo.... - Hugh Isaacs II
That and facebook is full of punk teenagers that I don't want to talk to ;) - Paul Kinlan
@Paul, Then delete them from your friends list, or don't add them. - Hugh Isaacs II
You choose your own friends on facebook, right? - TobiasVerhoog.com
also I do believe the UI on Facebook is terrible. It took me 5 attempts to try and create a page on Facebook and I still have to do a search for it when I want to view it - Anthony Feint
Robert, its all the poking and quizzes and other jejune stuff on Facebook - Aaman (Clone of FF)
Of course Facebook is usable. The point is what do you want to use it for. It was the one place where I could have family and close friends in a CLOSED network. I don't want the world and his missus to see my birthday party - sorry. Friendfeed is a completely different thing. Use it as a lifestream - have all sorts of friends/ acquiaintances/ whatever on there. They are not one and the same and I don't see how they can be. - sofiagk
@Aaman, block the quizzes from your home feed. - Hugh Isaacs II
Aaman: I've been on Facebook for a long time and I just ignore that stuff. No harm to me. - Robert Scoble
Facebook is cluttered. It's not a platform for sharing information and discussion. They're intended for two entirely separate purposes. That being said, I definitely am looking forward to what the FriendFeed team can do with Facebook. If real-time search is where they stop, it'll be hell. - Adam Reyher from Alert Thingy
On Facebook you choose your friends, just like here. Some differences, plus over there you have to decide whether you're going to be public or private up front. - Robert Scoble
So why you were then one of the sincerest ambassadors for FF and NOT FB? But taste changes... - Ronald
@Hugh what I was implying was that FF is open participation, so I am talking to you, I might not be following you but I am still talking to you; FB is open to 300 million users most of which I couldn't stop talking to me even if I wanted. Usage wise (from my perception) FB is closed to your personal groups, FF is discovery, the twain shall never mesh - Paul Kinlan
Robert Scoble was more interesting when he actually had a defensible opinion, rather than just went along with whatever the industry seemed to be doing and worked to egg people on. We remember those times, don't we? - Andy Bakun
I always laugh at people saying "what's the problem? Just do this, and it is ok". But the reason we use computers and software is we don't want to do this. We want to have things exactly the way we need them, not the way we need them if we just do this and this. - Luca Sofri
Facebook is not designed to be a public tool - think back to its roots. It's more of a private thing. If I am forced to use it like Friendfeed then I am deleting at least 80% of my info - sofiagk
@Paul, I think that's going to change with the FriendFeed acquisition. Facebook's aiming more for the public stuff instead of only focusing on close relationships now. - Hugh Isaacs II
cool, I used the word twain (evern if it is wrong) - Paul Kinlan
@sofiagk that´s exactly my point - Flynn (Michael A. Volz)
@sofiagk, Everything on Facebook is choice, I doubt they'll force you to be public, it'll probably be very tightly controlled. - Hugh Isaacs II
Think of the privacy settings. - Hugh Isaacs II
@Hugh, I would love FB to change to be more like FF but I can't see it happening, I would love to get to see the real-time search (someone said they just released it). - Paul Kinlan
sofiagk: I completely agree - Facebook was built for closed and private networks. Which is the complete opposite of FF. I don't want to setup complex privacy settings becasue I don't want my family to be inundated with php and coding articles. - Anthony Feint
If we are talking about privacy settings you might want to check out my FB app http://www.knowyourprivacy.com - Paul Kinlan
do i really want to search facebook? really? - Flynn (Michael A. Volz)
FB's great strength was for the private stuff. If I'm forced to choose between public and private, I'm going to stay private, because that's where my IRL friends are. Sorry, FFers. - James Myatt
@Michael A. "Flynn" Volz +1 - sofiagk
@Paul, I don't think Facebook plans to continue as just a closed network anymore, I think their goal is to cover all types of social interactions on the web so it's very likely they'll have FriendFeed like features. - Hugh Isaacs II
We use each tool to our own purposes but that doesn't mean that each tool is not better suited to a type of use. - sofiagk
@sofiagk, What's to say Facebook can't act as two tools instead of one? - Hugh Isaacs II
@hugh, the had better change their API to support that type activity then. - Paul Kinlan
@Paul, They already did. - Hugh Isaacs II
Hugh, I'm sure it can, but it's going to be really awkward. Like using a Swiss army knife to put shelves together and then skin a rabbit. - James Myatt
@James, Yea, I can't defend that, lol. - Hugh Isaacs II
@Hugh Isaacs II well if they are planning to open up then half of the apps are more or less redundant I would guess. You spend all of your time becoming something and then strip down to become something else? What's the point? I'm sorry I just don't understand what is the point with competing with twitter. Facebook vs Twitter is just a silly question, how would you compare them? Using some ff feature to make the stream on facebook better - sure I get that. - sofiagk
I think Facebook really need to sketch out what they're going to do with Friendfeed, and that might help people adapt to the idea better. At the moment, too much speculation and people really have no idea what to expect of this. - George Hall (Australia)
I've never beeon a big user of FF. I still don't quite get it. I use FB to keep in touch with people I know. As far as I can see FF is more for discovering stuff and discussing it with people I don't. Or have I missed the point? - Marc A. Price
@sofiagk, When you look at what Facebooks done so far, it seems like they just want all of the internets social interactions in one place. I mean it does sound silly but sticking to one thing is what killed off Friendster, Classmates, MySpace and so on. - Hugh Isaacs II
Marc, I think that is exactly the point - James Myatt
Being on FF is like publishing only things you want. With advanced privacy settings, you can just filter what to share on FB. BUT (a big but) I don't trust Facebook and I've seen it enabling stuff like alerts and configuration settings just because they had some error in their system. I don't share my private life on FF but I share family pictures, my personal details like my cell phone because I only allow people I know personally on FB. - Burak "cyrus" Bayburtlu
My biggest problems with using Facebook like Friendfeed are lack of friend-of-friend content (if someone else likes / comments on something, I don't get that in my feed), barriers to engagement (subscribing to someone you don't really "know" on FF is fine; sending a friend request to someone you don't really "know" on FB is not cool), and the fact that stuff falls down the feed too quickly because likes / comments don't bump it to the top again. - Tristan Seligmann
@hugh, they haven't changed their api at all, the status stream is a bit of a joke. - Paul Kinlan
@Hugh Isaacs II if they want to get all of social interaction in one place they have grossly misunderstood the nature of social interaction generally. People do not have ONE identity which they use to interact with EVERYONE. Rather we have MULTIPLE. I don't talk to my boss the same way as I talk to my friend. That's why I need multiple tools. So if there is only one on offer I will not use it. - sofiagk
@sofiagk i totally agree with that - Flynn (Michael A. Volz)
@sofiagk, that's what the privacy settings are for. In real life you don't take on multiple personas (well at least I don't think you do) so why do it on the internet? And in real life certain conversations are private, kept from others. You shouldn't require separate identities for that. - Hugh Isaacs II
And you can't expect them to know the perfect network for human interaction. The fact that they're trying gives me confidence though. It's like Googles goal to store all of the worlds information in one place, it won't happen but it definitely made some great products. - Hugh Isaacs II
@Hugh Isaacs II do you really trust facebook with the complicated settings and permissions and groups. I don't. I will agree with what @Burak "cyrus" Bayburtlu said above. I get what you are saying about trying. But at the end of the day Google has multiple product offerings. Facebook doesn't (for now). - sofiagk
Hugh, you do need separate places for that so that there's no risk of being overheard accidentally. - James Myatt
@sofiagk, I don't honestly. I'm defending them based off of idealism not favoritism. And yea, handling all of that stuff will probably end up in a million mistakes but it's a product, that happens. Also what's to say Facebook can't have multiple products? (That could be apart of this whole FriendFeed thing) - Hugh Isaacs II
@Hugh Isaacs II well - let's see what's gonna happen. Btw thanks for the lively chat a blog post is being drafted in my head as I type :-) - sofiagk
multiple products, like google does, that would be a really good idea. rename friendfeed and go on - Flynn (Michael A. Volz)
Your welcome, also if it's of any help, the maker of FriendFeed posted up something of reassurance http://friendfeed.com/paul... - Hugh Isaacs II
I think it makes more sense to have multiple "spaces" (work / private / whatever) in the same tool than arbitrarily dividing those up across multiple tools. - Tristan Seligmann
For example, most people would probably not create a Yahoo email account for emailing some people, and a GMail account for emailing others; they would just create two GMail accounts. - Tristan Seligmann
@Tristan, It's funny alot of people on FriendFeed are talking about migrating to Google Wave because of the whole Facebook thing, and in reality that's what Wave is going to do. - Hugh Isaacs II
All of the big companies whether open or not are aiming at owning your internet identity, they don't want separate identities because it doesn't define everything correctly. That's why Google has their profiles feature, why so many companies support OpenID, etc... It may not be something you're used to but over time it will just be one account per person, based on how social networking evolves. - Hugh Isaacs II
I bet even FriendFeed had that idea (Hint: Google, Facebook and Twitter log in feature). - Hugh Isaacs II
Carefully observe how someone communicates on phone call versus a face-to-face conversation. It's different—for one thing speaking in a louder volume on the phone. The medium influences the communication itself (but don't get me started on McLuhan ;) So multiple tools can help achieve a certain dynamic that would not have happened just by using another feature inside a single service/construct. That's certainly been my experience on FriendFeed. - Micah Wittman
@Micah Wittman +1 - sofiagk
@Micah, Wouldn't Facebook count as multiple tools in itself. You can have a toolbox, that doesn't mean all of it's contents equal one tool. - Hugh Isaacs II
Well, I guess this is more of a Swiss Army knife, but the analogy still applies. - Hugh Isaacs II
Hugh, typically, the same culture/available resources produce stuff under a certain paradigm. - Micah Wittman
@Micah, I doubt they'd just stuff all of your social interactions under one blanket. - Hugh Isaacs II
They've already separated all of my friends by relation. - Hugh Isaacs II
I mean, look at FriendFeed, I used the Facebook Connect feature to log in, but I don't interact on here as I would with my friends - Hugh Isaacs II
The last post I see from Robert on his FB Fan page is June 4th. Being a fan on FB is certainly not the same as subscribing here. If you tried to post all these comments on FB, they would take up 4-5 times more screen space. Like others, I use FB for private family and friends, and FF for subscribing to other public feeds. I like the differences. - Keith Rowland
Facebook is just really cluttered, and it's UI looses focus on so many fronts. Take the start page - i've missed events, birthdays and other stuff because its burried with a million things on one page. But that's where the people are. I - Shawn Roos
Or you are SO wrong here. People pretend they are using it - then their wife asks - btw, honey, how did you create that fan page about me? And he says - WTF? :) - Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
Apostol, lol :) The idea is that usability could have been much-much better! Right now it's a total mess and there is a lot of room for improvement. Yes, people use it everyday, but do they use all of it? - Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
@Sasha, do you use all of FriendFeed? (Example: Last.Fm, Brightkite, desktop notifications, google talk integration, etc...) - Hugh Isaacs II
Then why use people not using all of Facebook as an argument? - Hugh Isaacs II from iPod
FB is not unusable, but it is bloated. Tough to set things up the way that I want. Too many new toys/apps popping up almost in every second. I'm tired of hiding this, hiding that from the feeds - ilter
It's still pretty simple and pleasant to use provided you don't install any applications IMO :P. - James Stephenson
James: what about not being able to stop some favorite friends from installing any applications? :) - ilter
ilter: Ummm ... I guess you could start selecting your friends based on their Facebook Applications :P? That would be a sad, sad day... - James Stephenson
Maybe we need a seperate facebook application. Wait... are there ANY facebook desktop applications? AIR-free preferred (for now) :) - ilter
Throws a sheep at Robert. - Mark Davidson from BuddyFeed
Hat tip to this discussion and to @Hugh Isaacs II - I explain my point on facents and identities better here http://www.digital-era.org/renditi... (I know this is a shameless plug - Robert fee free to delete, I just thought it is relevant) - sofiagk
@sofiagk, I read your blog post and understand your argument but the same rule still stands. You only have one body. As with the friend list feature on Facebook you have social barriers that keep some people away from what others may see. I know it sounds foolish to push all of your social interactions under one service, but if that service can recreate the same personas you use in real life, the only argument against it would be ease of use, comfort and bugs. - Hugh Isaacs II
@Hugh Isaacs II with you all the way if we can find some way to meaningfuly separate functions and feeds - to actually control what info we send to whom. - sofiagk
@sofiagk, that's what I've been getting at this whole time. I mean I know Facebook in it's current state doesn't do a great job of controlling who sees what, but I'm sure they've been working on that. The FriendFeed acquisition is probably to cater to that. - Hugh Isaacs II
Facebook has lots of usability issue. For example, they hid all the apps in that ridiculous bottom toolbar making them less accessible. It took me a while to find that my events are now there... If you want to do anything a bit more advanced than the basic functions then you'll probably lost without their help site (took me a while to figure out how to set permissions to different groups... ). Facebook should be way easier to use... - Eran Kampf
@Eran, Windows does the same thing. Hides all of the apps in that ridiculous bottom toolbar. ^_^ - Hugh Isaacs II
scobble: it's close to unusable. - Gal Granov גל גרנוב
If its so good and usable... why do you use FriendFeed\Twitter? - Eran Kampf
@Eran, Facebook doesn't let me hold public conversations like the one we're currently having (which I think is bound to change). - Hugh Isaacs II
It's not unusable... it's TOO usable. Too easily gamed by spam apps, too visible to employers who want to block it, too easy for advertisers to target your feed and use your stuff. And way, way too cluttered. It's like the boardwalk in Atlantic City... I avoid it if I can but every so often I make the mistake of going and find that it hasn't changed. Friendfeed on the other hand has none of the crap, while it does have a boatload of interesting, engaged people. - Jim in Real Time
well said Jim.... +1 - Kim
++++jim - BEX from iPhone
I totally (!) agree with Jim *thumbs up* - Ronald
@Jim, you know you can actually filter out the applications from your view, even keep them from posting on your wall. - Hugh Isaacs II
You are spot on, Robert. The proof is in the pudding. - thinkQuick
Hugh... yes, I know. But while facebook is very easy to begin using it requires a fair amount of effort to set up all that stuff and get the look/feel you want. For all the talk I've heard about how Friendfeed is difficult to figure out, I've never had that problem here. - Jim in Real Time
@Jim, yea but FriendFeed is a very young website. I'm not content just knowing that I can't filter out which of my friends can see what. If FriendFeed lasted longer it would've probably gotten more complex and you would've lost interest, or it would've stayed the same and you would've lost interest. Either way judging from your comment I think you would've moved on to something new at some point (this is Facebooks attempt at being relevant to you). - Hugh Isaacs II
Hugh... I guess you missed the part of my comment that spoke about interesting, engaged people. I will not be losing interest in them anytime soon. In fact, I've been (and still am) on facebook longer than I've been here. I've never been that interested in facebook and still am not. It was just the opposite on FF. I was skeptical and used it very little at first but as the service (for... more... - Jim in Real Time
Slow... Bogged down with apps... And who wants to refresh a page or discussion manually? Although it does allow me to stay connected with people I would have otherwise lost touch with. - Walt Ruppar from iPhone
@Walt, Facebook + Realtime experts = Facebook in Realtime. It's an assumption but not one without merit. - Hugh Isaacs II
Good to connect with friends of friends but do not like the stupid apps - Randy Allen Bishop
people who barely know the net are ALL on facebook. you know what i would like? friend group settings. think about it. post photos to your personal group, your online friends or something else entirely. and WHO KNOWS - with the smart people working for the boogie men, it might happen too! - Terry O'Fee
@Hugh yes I know it is coming... Just wanted to share my top three issues with #facebook and why I use it to help this wonderful R&D discussion... :) - Walt Ruppar from iPhone
I think Facebook is perfectly usable. I just can't use it for the same sort of things. Honestly, most people think Facebook is unusable because of all the applications that their friends use, and which those people are too lazy to block. There are some legit problems though, like the quiz applications which, literally, make new applications, so that they show up and you have to block... more... - Otto
Logging into Facebook means a 10-12 minute commitment just to catch up on a half-day's worth of communication. By contrast, I can get in and out of Twitter or Friendfeed in a minute or two if that's all I have. Facebook is just...heavy. - Ed Moltzen
I know people that work at Facebook. They're good people. But I have serious doubts about their abilities to make an interface that doesn't totally suck. Face facts, Facebook's interface absolutely blows. It is very difficult to do anything that you actually need to do. A good friend of mine is a teacher, and she stopped using Facebook because she didn't want to reject her students on... more... - Otto
I think FB is/has reached a level of importance as SOFTWARE that there needs to be detailed guides/documentation/tutorials. Think about it, most of FB's functionality is simply put out there for people to discover. When you sign up you aren't introduced to a 1/4 of what is available or provided any kind of best practices guidance. Software we buy for our systems generally comes with some type of manual or instruction. Most webapps like FB do not, you have to go to the community or hunt through the interface - Martin Johnson
It's not unusable but it is quite a challenge to new users. I wrote this post about how Twitter is the gateway drug to social networking. http://blog.adam-jackson.net/2009... - Adam Jackson
I may have to have two accounts on FB, one private and one public - outofmyarse
It might come as a shock to the designers out there but usability is not the most important aspect of an application. Facebook's success in the face of its sucky usability proves that. People are on facebook, and other on-line social networks, because they want to interact with the other members, not because of usability. - sjjh
Unnecessary to chew gum. But it's called billion dolar industry. - Burçak Çubukçu
The selling point of friendfeed is that it's a social interface utterly different from facebook. The default is open, shareable, aggregrates, and the UI isn't overridden with crud. - Mark Essel
there are more stranger things that people do, not everything could be explained, asked a wrong question. like say if there aren't any ghosts why more than half the world believe, if there is any god or isn't why are people theist/atheist. why men cut their hair both head/facial when they are there for sexual and heat exchange purposes at first places, you asked it out of your sentiment for facebook and i wrote it because i don't like facebook ;) - testbeta
Paul Buchheit
After signing the papers :)
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hide - jcunwired
What's with the fists, Paul? :) - April Buchheit
congrats Paul - Zee.
I thought it would make a funny picture April. - Paul Buchheit
Secret backyard meetings FTW. :) - EricaJoy
What? No lawyers in suits? Mark's setting a pretty low bar on the dress code for this sort of thing...:) - Tomas Remotigue
Our lawyers were wearing shorts actually -- no air conditioning at their office on Sundays I guess. - Paul Buchheit
Zuckerberg's the only one from FB who could be bothered to show up? - Andy Bakun
American big business such a formal affair - Robert Higgins
Contrary to popular misconception, lawyers don't actually enjoy wearing suits. Haul us into work on a Sunday, and we'll definitely be dressing comfortably. :) - Brian Chang
Andy, the person on the left is Vaughan Smith from Facebook. Sanjeev (the fourth FriendFeed founder) is not pictured because he was boarding an airplane. - Paul Buchheit
Paul, that's so awesome. FB's an awesome company to do business with. - Jesse Stay
Congrats. Happy for you guys. - Tsega Dinka
Must have been exciting, congrats. - sean percival
Congrats, and thanks for having us here. Much success in whatever comes next. - Chris Baskind
Yeah, wishing you guys all the best, its been good fun hanging around here thanks!! - Mel Buckpitt
Congrats to you guys! - Jack Wilson, K4SAC
Congratulations you guys!!!! I love the Teak Conference Room table :) - Susan Beebe
Hey Paul congratulations - FriendFeed has been leading the way since its inception. Are the photos you've posted copy-protected or could I use them in a story on the deal? - Mitch
Mitch, feel free to use the photos. - Paul Buchheit
where's the ...friendfeed shirts then?? ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)
SWEET!!! Congratulations! - Chad Lester
...congrats.can't wait to see what happens with both FF and FB as a result of this. - .LAG liked that
Please try to keep Friendfeed like it was if they let you. Either way, congrats on the financials! - Josh Haley from iPhone
Congrats and best wishes for the future. - Jeff Stannard
For $50m you could at least have hired a photographer who doesn't shake so much. :) - Rodrigo Jaroszewski
FF was the cutting edge whereas FB is quickly becoming the mainstream. Unfortunately, the mainstream does not necessarily equal innovation and pushing the envelope. We all suffer when innovation is chilled. But on the other hand, congrats to the FF crew. They made their money! - laosan
Congratulations guys! - Diego Barros 
I think the Tiger suit would have been more appropriate! But hey....shorts in a backyard is pretty cool too. - Drea Lester
Congrats! - Christopher Golda
Whatever the outcome, Friendfeed is terrific. Congratulations. - ashish
LOL, click through if you want to see pics of newly rich geeks in casual wear.. -> - Alex Schleber
Hahaha! Funny Alex.. - Bill Heslin
congratulations! keep the innovation coming... - ozlubling
VERY happy for you guys. Possibly even owe you one or two. Are we getting FriendPhone next?? Think Mark should seriously think about 'Friendbook' :) - Charlie Anzman
Congratulations to you and your team. - Maria Niles
just showed the pictures to my students and they were like, "they look like normal people!" Congrats on the deal, onward and upward! - xxx xxxxx
Congratulations, Paul -- to you and everybody at FF. - Eric Johnson
Congrats Paul, Bret and the rest of the team, this is awesome news! The big question on everyone's lips is: Who gets to have http://facebook.com/paul? :) - Fenn
Congrats, and thanks for taking us all on such a terrific ride! Big ups. :) - Pete Delucchi
You've done a great job! You deserve this and more... Congrats! - Ricardo J. Valle
now this is what a deal term meeting should look like - file under inspirational - - mediaeater
Congratulations to everyone at FF. Whose house was the deal made? - seman
I am sad .. !!! I do not know .. why .. for me its not good news - Nayan
Congratulations! - Made Adi
Awesome! Congratulations! - michael silverton
hey, congratus Friendfeed team!!! - K.D.
+Lindsey - Kamilah Gill
I call this pic... "Six Happy Dudes & 1,000,000+ Pissed-Off FriendFeeders" - Brad Williamson
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! - Mathew™ one of a kind
Looks like Mathew™ has found a UI bug by flooding contiguous characters. - Jay Cuthrell
I don't get the negativity - did no one realize FriendFeed was a business? The object of a business is to sell eventually (either privately or publicly). We should be celebrating their success. This is a huge win for them, as well as Facebook. I personally think it's a huge win for the "loyal users" as well. So now we stab them in the back when they do something huge? - Jesse Stay
Not to mention we know *nothing* about what this will mean for both services. These guys haven't let us down yet, have they? - Jesse Stay
Congratulations to all of you!! - Steve de Mena
The FB/FF deal rocks. Total win for users and developers. - Steve Gillmor
Facebook announces the acquisition of FriendFeed http://facebookmania.net/en... - Vincenzo Piromalli
Congratulations guys.. and good luck! ;) - Vincenzo Piromalli
Congratulations Paul. I hope for nothing but the best for you and FF. - Martha
We should start a PhotoShop meme on this. - Ben Hanten
Millionaire meme - Bill Heslin
Lindsey, I'm with you completely. Bad timing. Too bad there weren't photos of money being thrown in the air. - Ben Hanten
Congratulations Paul, you should have got more, but I guess $50m is nothing to sneeze at. Have a great wedding anniversary too, I'm sure you both deserve it. Much happiness - :) - Chris Loft
Congrats! The hard work paid off - Becca
Those are the kind of business meetings I could get used to - no suits... but selling to Facebook? Hmmm... Good for someone of course but I suppose we'll see where this ride takes us. - Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
congrats on building an amazing product and incredibly passionate community! I was mad at first, but then realize that the technology was most likely sold, not the community. I'm hoping ff community will stay somewhat untouched and features that have been built into ff will be ported to fb. - Derek Coatney
Congratulations, FriendFeeders! I'm anxious to see what changes this will bring. FriendFeed is my favorite site to visit, so hopefully y'all will find a way to maintain the FF spirit somehow. - Keith Pelczarski
No matter the type of big change, there are those who will not like it, often simply because it's change. I for one am very pleased that two of the services I use most are joining forces, and am eager to see the new developments that come of this acquisition. Congrats to EVERYONE on the FriendFeed team. You all deserve it! You've done a great job with a small company. Now lets see what you can do with a large one :) - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Nicely put, guruvan. - Anne Bouey
What I wonder is ... a 50-million dollar deal and no one has a camera capable of taking a clear photo? :P - Nicholas Kreidberg
Congratulations - Steve C
@Jesse Stay re: "the objective of business is to sell eventually" : Ummm, the objective of many businesses is to become profitable by providing a valuable experience to their users. Businesses that feel they can't do that are the ones that sell. - Shane Gibbons
LOL! ♫ ♫ "ooh, take the money and run"!! ♫ ♫ ;) - Vincenzo Piromalli
Congratulations to everyone involved. Well done. - Darius Dunlap
This is a very sad day in friend feed history. It is horrible because I like friend feed for how it's different from face book. I use facebook but I find it really annoying and I wouldn't use it if my friends and family weren't using it. So if Friend Feed becomes another facebook then i donno if I will keep coming to friend feed. - Colide81 (James) from iPhone
Grats. :) - Joshua Schnell
Congrats to the FF staff, but you'll have to pardon my lack of exuberance. I have mental pictures of being forced to use the FB UI and it makes me sad =( - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Very happy for the Friendfeed team. These pictures say it all. - Christian Burns from iPhone
Congrats -- may the FF UI stay alive! - RateBrain
Where are the photos of everyone celebrating? No beer or champagne? - Shane
Great match-up guys ! The Fabulous Friender Boys ! - Let's see some integrated mashups and extensible apps and FF UI. Given Google and Twitter a run for their money... Looks like they are going to have to "hook-up" now ! - Mike Schmidt
Congratulations Paul and the team! Hopefully we'll still get the same simple UI for FriendFeed. I'm sure however that no matter what you do, things will turn up nicely. - Ovidiu Predescu
Enjoy! - Paul Mayne
NOOOOO! I _LOVE_ friendFeed and this will change it forever. Yeah - this will improve Facebook. Great deal guys - I can not wait to see how this works out - Ric Johnson
Congratulations! :) - İdris Cin
hayırlı olsun - Sinan İŞLER
:O :( - ★amin.m★
congratulations to both parties. intuitively, it feels like the right move. - ray
Congratulations guys :) - Yalcin Parmaksiz
So the deal was done at night in someone's back yard. Weird. - Andy C
Congrats Paul, Bret and the rest of the FF team. Your smiles are priceless!! - Mohamed J
Hayırlı işler... - Onur Selek
Congratulations gentlemen! - Mutimba
Congratulations Paul. Yes, I do hope Friendfeed users and community are "treated right". - Paola Bonomo
shit all FF VC's and CO-FOUNDERS! YOU DID THE SHIT! you can safely accept all spam "app" invitations on FB. - Ahmet Alp Balkan
Ahmet: I'm disappointed to even be on the same service as you and I really can't wait until you leave. - Robert Scoble
Congrats! Maybe you'll make FB usable again... - Eran Kampf from iPhone
cngrtlti.ons I hope you will understand what i mean! - Atif UNALDI
Great vibe :) - Sharel from FriendFeed API Example
@Scobleizer: Come on you're a genius and can not realize future of FF? Turkey was one of important countries which is using FF! They asked no one about this! We hate fcking morons and stupid people on facebook, and I'm sure that this post will be real, just read it: http://ff.im/6pRmM - Ahmet Alp Balkan
But Ahmed you are still being an ass about it, trying to rain on their good times. Go find a hole under the bridge where you belong. You can be sad and not have to come out all bitchy about stuff. Clear thoughtful comments instead of going all into "fuck you" mode. - Rasmus Lauridsen
OK, that's great. I hope you can be successful at Facebook Dev Team and enjoy spending that money. - Ahmet Alp Balkan
Ahmet: I hope this helps with your inquiry -> http://friendfeed.com/about... - Clifford Kennedy
@Clifford, haha LOL. - Ahmet Alp Balkan
Bilseydik biz alırdık :) - Hamdi Yaman
wohoo, lets celebrate that ff owners for selling the land they have hired us - now we have to find another place - MobilAdam
very nice FF! Amazing team! - @RecruitingDiva - Sangeeta Narayan
valla kelepire gitmiş, fotoğraflardan belli.. - Mücahit Yılmaz
Who took the pic? - Marco Massarotto from iPhone
@MobilAdam + 1. - Ahmet Alp Balkan
@Mücahit +1 :D - Hamdi Yaman
böyle önemli bir iş için fiyat açıklanmadı ama 50 milyon $ deniyor. Bu kadar lakayt bir ortam olur mu yau. Uzaktan baksan gençler eğleniyor dersin - Fatih Hayrioğlu
Şİmdi yorumları okumadım ama çok kişisel bişi söyleyeceğim. Bu gençlerin milyon dolarları çeviriyor olması durumuna şaşıyorum. Bizim memlekette bu seviyeye gelecek mi veya? Kaç sen uzaktalar bizden bu gençler? - mustafa can
Bizim şirket sahipleri konunun belli saatler arasında, belli kıyafetlerle ofiste oturmak değil, yapılan işin niteliği olduğunu analdıkları zaman gelir tabii. Ama bence bu gavurların dediği gibi "When the hell freezes over". - özlem ercan
bu postu türkçe commentlerle doldrmak süper fikir.. sarcasm diil ciddiyim - MobilAdam
Bakmayın böyle güldüklerine arkada buyuk yatırımcılar olmasa batar gider bunlar..Adamların yatırımcıları işi biliyor... - Zeki Pehlivan
tebrikler.congratulations.gratuliere !!! - muratt
Sorry but as an FF user, I've just tried to express my thoughts about this acquisition: http://fc07.deviantart.com/fs46... - İbrahim Özdemir
Congratulations! :) - Ruben Sanchez
Great result Paul. In such a short time, millions of users, 1 new interface and a marriage with internets' celebrity. This is a period which you should write down to make it as an on-line business case. You people are really wise businessmen. Nice job, congrats! :) - Olcayto Cengiz
Not happy happy congrats bullshit from me-I used FF. - frankiecarl
Frankie, a lot of us use FriendFeed and are concerned about where things are going from here. As I said in my comment above: I'm happy for the staff but displeased with who they chose to sell to. I'm perfectly capable of feeling both emotions at the same time. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
@Tina ++++ - Shevonne
wonderful so normal so ordinary so simple - Thomas Power
MZ looks like he has just returned from the gym - Joe Dawson
These guys represent the most talked about entreprises (Ok even more so by geeks in the case of Friendfeed) and they're still in their 20s. We're talking millions of dollars and look how relax they look and casually they're dressed. - lelapin
Awesome, nice to see they are actually in fact human still. - Robert Schultz
Congratulations, Paul! - Bill Sodeman
Great photographs showing the very reason why 99% of all people start their own business - money! Well done and good luck for the future. - David Jagger
this is so great! congrats paul! im really happy for u guys! - Jason Pollock
congratulations guys! - Liam Daly
congratulations from me, too! mind to stay (y)ourselves. ;) - Valentina*
L-O-V-E the attire, guys. Did you end the evening with a nice barbecue and a dip in the pool? - Giulia B.
Yeah yeah, you worked hard, you got the payout, well done guys. Now. Down to business....where's OUR share? ;-) - Slappy Line
"Hi my name is Mark, I do $50m deals in my shorts!" - Simon May
Congratulations. I'm sad for us and extremely happy for you and your team. - Arleen Boyd
congratulations...can't wait to see the success of the collaboration! - Katy Barrilleaux
We better run away! - Constantine
Congratulations. I'm sure that this acquisition will be beneficial for both parties. - Volkan Özçelik
the one in the green shirt is hawt. just sayin'. - Jessie
eew, that causes diseases - Jim Norris
congrats Paul & evereyone ! - Thomas Mader
Is that Mel sitting on Paul's left? http://www.youtube.com/watch... - j1m
CHA CHING!!!!! - sofarsoShawn
congrats guys - well done!!! - Gerd Leonhard
supper! - Ahmet Koldaguc
Business is Business and we can only move forward with social-media applications as we herald a new interactive platform. Albeit thanks to the Mothers of all Mothers, Google. Frank Burns - frank burns
mashable
Geek Parents Reject N00b Boyfriend [Video] - http://mashable.com/2009...
vijay
#STICKY : The Official FF Filters list. *note to admins - edit this post & add new filters as they come in, thanks :) Also, all comments in this post that aren't filter links have to be edited out.
Fresh Scoble Likes: Posts where Scoble is the first (edit: only) person to like - http://sn.im/gdlcx - vijay
FF is down?? - http://sn.im/gdlhp - vijay
Guess What I'm Watching? Popular FF game to guess movies/tv shows - http://sn.im/gdlj4 - vijay
Eating Out? See what people are talking about. - http://sn.im/gdlka - vijay
Coffee Lovers! - http://sn.im/gdll9 - vijay
Twitter FailWhale Sightings. THAR SHE REFRESHES! - http://sn.im/gdlma - vijay
Economic Discussions on FF - http://sn.im/gdln4 - vijay
Content posted by your friends(replace isthisstupid in the URL linked here with your login-name) - http://sn.im/gdlos - vijay
Who's checking FriendFeed out right now! - http://sn.im/gdlqc - vijay
Top Photos on FF that aren't *liked* by you yet(replace koltregaskes in the URL linked here with your login-name) - http://sn.im/gdlr4 - vijay
Re-tweets from your friends and groups, with links (and are not thank yous): http://bit.ly/sEwRP - change the "friends:koltregaskes" with your username. - Kol Tregaskes
iPhone news filter - http://sn.im/gdlrp - vijay
FF Newbie - find who needs help with FriendFeed - http://sn.im/gdlsi - vijay
FF Favorite people - find who is recommending who and if you wanna follow them. - http://sn.im/gdltd - vijay
Retweets (via @ or RT @): http://friendfeed.com/search... - Bwana ☠
Forgets - intitle:"I forgot" http://friendfeed.com/search... funny stuff in here :) - Bwana ☠
New Jobs - intitle:"I got a new job" http://friendfeed.com/search... - Bwana ☠
Memes - intitle:meme comments:2 likes:2 http://friendfeed.com/search... - Bwana ☠
Track Twitter @Replies to multiple Twitter accounts (Replace 'SocialGeek' and 'Palsule' with your Twitter accounts) http://friendfeed.com/search... - Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Track Scolbeizer's announcements under embargo: http://friendfeed.com/search... - Sriks7
service:lastfm,ilike,pandora friends:me http://friendfeed.com/search... - 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
Steve Rubel
The iPhone is a netbook replacement says one writer http://theappleblog.com/2009...
I am starting to work much the same way - Macbook at home, desktop at work and iPhone everywhere in between (except long road trips). - Steve Rubel
I agree. I look at my ipod touch as basically an ultra-portable computer. - Tomy Thomson
We still need an editable version of Google Docs (Wave is coming). - Jérôme Flipo
My netbook can edit PowerPoint and Google documents. It can play flash games and help me clean out my Inbox when I'm offline (yes, that happens). I can expand its storage capacity. I can replace its flat battery with a freshly charged one and keep on going. For me, the iPhone is much less a netbook. It can be a MID. - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Oh, yeah, and my netbook can run Java! - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Veronica
The more "uplifting" someone's email signature quote is, the more I want to stab myself in the eyes with hot needles.
Hang in there! - Kevin Fox
that's acceptable if the picture of the kitten is attached. - Veronica
It's always sunny somewhere! - Thomas
Search deep inside yourself, Veronica, and try to explain why you hate it so much. - Eric Geller
They don't need to be hot ... - Salty Droid
It's 5 O'clock somewhere! - Fee501st
they cauterize better that way. - Veronica
If you did that, you realize you could never see any more LOLcats, right? - Eric Geller
A frown is just a smile with potential... - Thomas
My boss usually has some Zen Buddhist message on his AIM (which seems uncharacteristic for him) - but today he's got "In case of rapture, have a designated sinner." That's more like the sarcastic boss I know and love... - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Stabbing myself in the eyes with hot needles turns me from the ugliness of the world to the peace of permanent darkness. - Andrew C
'Make the world a better place via the power of bacon' - Alex Scrivener
that's a nice one. - Veronica
You know you've hit rock bottom when 'uplifting' quotes don't make you want to barf. - Amy
I've long ago learned to ignore signature quotes (unless they're Groucho Marx). - George Brickner
Would really depressing signature quotes be preferable? - DGentry
Is the inverse true? If my sig is super depressing, will it bring a smile? :) - Mo Kargas
Sent from my iPhone. - Geoff Schultz
Confucius say: "man who run behind car get exhausted"..."man who run in front of car get tired" --------------------------------------------------- "Who made you Judge Judy and executioner?" -- Homer Simpson - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Time for some demotivators? http://despair.com/viewall... - vb100
haha, you actually read them. - mosta from AndFeed
Funny, "Please stab your eyes with hot needles." is my email sig. - Todd Hoff
That one about the number of breaths you take vs the moments that take your breath away just makes me want to pinch someone. repeatedly. until they scream. - Yolanda
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." --Red Adair - Michael R. Bernstein
"Perhaps God rewards martyrs, but life seldom does..." --Ulrika O'Brien - Michael R. Bernstein
new here and you just made my day with a good laugh - nyfamily5
An old coworker at Nokia who's sig said: "The world is a festering pit of despair." An engineer trapped under the marketing umbrella. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Calling me out huh? :-P Dropping the gloves. j/k - Mathew A. Koeneker
I like pizza - Noah David Simon
I like cats, and pizza. - Veronica
But not really at the same time. - Veronica
couldnt agree more - sean percival
hoping you don't like cats IN the pizza - Wagner
Wagner, see above. - Veronica
and this is why the company I work for insists you don't use them and. I'm glad - Christian (Simply X) from Android
here, found your new email sig! http://farm1.static.flickr.com/48... - Wagner
Admiral Anika
OH: No he was talking like this Scoble guy was famous. I did a search. I think he's a chef, he has a cooking site called FriendFeed. *dead*
Haahhhahahah! - Micah Wittman
How to Cook for Everyone or something like that - John (a.k.a. dendroica)
BAHAHAAHA!!! - Helen Sventitsky
And Arrington has a candy bar site called TechCrunch :) - Richard pancakhaus Walker
"How to serve man" - CAJ, somewhere else
Louis Gray is the proprietor of a theme park called "Twins" ;) - Micah Wittman
Johnny Worthington, isn't he the guy in that movie who said, "That's not a Like. *That's* a Like!" - Micah Wittman
Yummy. - Louis Gray
I couldn't stop laughing when the lady said it. She was triggered by my cashier who had mentioned Scoble, though she had no idea who he was either. - Admiral Anika
I thought Johnny was no-pants-man. Never heard of those others, though. - WorldofHiglet
LOL! That's hilarious. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
*cackle* - Michael W. May
+1 Curtis - Daniel J. Pritchett
hahahahahahaha! - Kisha, Well Conditioned from BuddyFeed
LMAO! CLASSIC! - Manny
That got me to laugh! - Robert Scoble
My friend once asked if Scobleizer was a new brand of an electric screwdriver! :) - Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Wait... Does this mean Mashable isn't about mashed potatoes? :( - Rooker
ROTFLMAO! - Steven Perez from Android
Sooo... what's the recipe of the day, Robert? - Adrian
That's a nice story. cooked, deep-fried and garnished....thanks - Ashish Tiwari
Sorry but are you implying that Anika is making this up, Ashish? - Adrian
Not at all Adrian, actually enjoyed it and Thanks again to Anika for the post. sorry if the "cooking" reference to the Robert being chef went too afar or missed.... - Ashish Tiwari
Oh! I see now, my bad. That was pretty clever. - Adrian
Adrian trying to pick fights on the internet . . . damn - B. Hatin
You smell like PEAS, it's not amusing! Put em up!! ;p - Adrian
April Buchheit
Should your website have a flash intro? - http://angryaussie.wordpress.com/2009...
Should your website have a flash intro?
The flowchart actually applies to use of Flash for most other purposes as well. - Gabe
This diagram should be teached in schools and universities :-) - gib
Now if it just worked to tell them exactly that all would be good. Sadly, saying this rarely works. - Rachel Lea Fox
Reminds me of one we saw a while back: http://friendfeed.com/sethosc... - Seth
Wow, I was complaining about this just this afternoon! - Stuart Inskip
LOL excellent! - Toby Graham
No. I hate them. - Svartling
Not a fan of sites with Flash intro... plus it does not display on phones. - David Lanning
DO NOT WANT. In my opinion, Flash should only be used for things like YouTube. - John (a.k.a. dendroica)
NO, but if you insist don't make it autoplay (for those who have bandwidth limits or additional charges) and DO let us SKIP it. Have you seen my post "The Serious Drawbacks to Using FLASH for Web Design: Usability, SEO, Editability" at http://www.growmap.com/flash/ ? If you're going to use Flash you REALLY need to know the pros and cons! - Internet Strategist
I can't 'Like' this post enough - Chieze Okoye
LOL - Josh Haley
Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
How many of you have found that FriendFeed has moved beyond "social" into "information stream"?
It's interesting that while it still has a certain social aspect, I am leaning on it more now than ever to come discover articles and information that I would like to consume to keep me frosty at my job. That is a welcome shift, but I predict it will be hard for the traditional "boss" to get their hands around. - Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
.. and directly after posting this I go and 'Like' a LOL cat meme... Oh well, so much for credibility ;-) - Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
It started as an information stream for me. It accidentally became social, when I started following Mona. - Matthew DeVries
It has always been information stream for me. I don't know the people I follow here. - Alex Scrivener
I've always thought of it as both. - Tyson Key
It's sort of-like continuing down a motorway after getting lost - you never quite know what surprises you might find. ;) - Tyson Key
Good analogy, Tyson. Matthew, I know how you feel, but Mona has found some really cool stuff. She even helped me learn how to Google something ;-) - Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
It's still mostly a social tool for me, but I have noticed over the last month or two that FF has started to break news faster then my RSS feeds. When it comes to big news especially, so many people share it that you see it right away - Davis Freeberg
It's an extension of my social presence on other networks but I use it as an information feed first and then meet new people because of that. - Janet Fouts
Both. - Louis Gray
I've always thought of it as a data flow. One that allows me to transform data into information. Some of the data happens to be social in nature - so for me, it's always been information first and social second. - AJ Kohn
it was social at some time? ;) - chaz2b
@chaz2b - According to Common FFolklore, it was once a social place. ;) - Tyson Key
Still both for me - Shey, Jamaican of FF
Saved searches contributed greatly to FriendFeed's usefulness as an information stream. - John E. Bredehoft
It's a lot of both for me. I get breaking news here, but I also enjoy goofing off on FF. - Jason Huebel from iPhone
FF is, and always has been, a good "information stream" for me because it is social. Of course, "information" does not equal "news." Then again, one could argue that the definition of news is changing drastically right now. - Kevin Sablan
Robert Scoble
There's one thing NO ONE is talking about in terms of #twittergate (the role of the SUL in pressure on @techcrunch). Will discuss here:
TechCrunch is on Twitter's Suggested User List. They have been gifted about 880,000 followers by being on that list, AKA "SUL". That's worth a lot of money. - Robert Scoble
SUL? - iconic88
SUL? Sulfuric acid? - Richard
So what are you saying? That they shouldn't leak the docs because they got a lot of followers from Twitter? - Dare Obasanjo
That they leaked the docs to become more popular on twitter? - Tyler Hurst
the point most people are missing is that TechCrunch states they have spoken with Twitter. I am sure Twitter execs know what's coming and are prepared - Kevin
brave new world... - Bill Kinney
Wouldn't you think the <800k SUL-generated followers would have made @arrington LESS likely to publish the docs? - Tom Guarriello
Dare: I bet that Twitter is threatening Mike with getting kicked off. - Robert Scoble
Here is a link to a post of a dozen screenshots of Twitters admin panels http://www.nowhereelse.fr/admin-t... "There are 187 featured SUL Uusers" - Mark
Tom: it's gotta be one consideration Mike is considering. - Robert Scoble
Techcrunch did mention in one of their posts that Twitter is generating a lot of traffic for them. So the SUL does work for them. And it works for twitter as they stop TC from posting the documents - Sidharth Dassani
Sure, Robert. But he's pushed it this far despite the SUL factor. - Tom Guarriello
SUL = Suggested User List - Manuel Arroyo
I bet that twitter prefers this to leak on techcrunch where Mike can spin some stories for them than to see the zip file with the docs appearing on a torrent site ! - Eschnou
wikileaks maybe? - Mark
So twitter kicks arrington off. does he publish the docs? does that help him? - Tyler Hurst
If Twitter kicks him off get ready for a big time firestorm! (Just mistyped: "firestory"!) - Tom Guarriello
Tom: Mike is a journalist. He also says that someone else will publish them, so might as well tell everyone that these things are knocking around in public. - Robert Scoble
Even without the suggested users list, TechCrunch must be weighing the cost of enmity with the most popular startup in the Valley right now. Don't they write like 3 Twitter stories a day? What happens if Twitter stops talking to them and takes all their press communications to Mashable (who are already beginning to kick TechCrunch's butt with their social media savviness? - Dare Obasanjo
Robert - Arrington is NOT a journalist. Journalists check sources. Process journalism is NOT real journalism. He's a writer. - Tyler Hurst
How did Arrington not check his sources? He confirmed they are real docs - Kevin
Yes, read all his rationale. Seems sincere in trying to separate juiciest from items he considers newsworthy. BTW, I do believe he is a journalist. - Tom Guarriello
Which would they kick? Him with ~8K followers? Not TC with ~1million followers. - Mike Shea
Kevin - not just this article. did you see his article on how the free google apps was gone when it was just a page layout change? - Tyler Hurst
Tyler: I've been in the hotel room watching as Arrington checked his sources on a story. You're wrong on that one. - Robert Scoble
Mike: almost all of TechCrunch's followers were gifted to him by TechCrunch (same with Mashable, by the way). Before the Suggested Users List came along both had fewer followers than me, Leo Laporte, and a couple of others. Being on the SUL is worth lots of money (I believe it's worth millions, if you stay on it for a few years). - Robert Scoble
Tom - these are stolen documents. What does his rationale matter at this point? - Tyler Hurst
Dare: yes, I'm sure Mike is considering all the consequences. Also, if these documents really do exist someone will publish them. When I quit Microsoft I told 15 people and I didn't even know the guy who leaked my story. - Robert Scoble
For the record, so far, I have not been given the Twitter documents. - Robert Scoble
Scoble - so why doesn't Twitter just publish them? Get ahead of any new site? - Tyler Hurst
Tyler: journalists have printed stolen stuff that's newsworthy in the past. - Robert Scoble
Tyler: I don't know, but I bet that Twitter does not want these released. - Robert Scoble
Tyler - So were the Pentagon Papers. - Tom Guarriello
Tyler: I wonder, if I did have them, and I talked with @ev, would he offer to put me on the SUL in return for not publishing the documents? - Robert Scoble
Scoble - are they newsworthy because they're stolen or newsworthy because they're juicy? What good does this do? - Tyler Hurst
Scoble - now that's a damn good question about SUL. - Tyler Hurst
No journalist should have accepted to be on the SUL and at least at this moment ask that they be taken off. - Stephen Pickering
Dare, to answer your original question, the SUL is a gift worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, maybe even millions. Jason Calacanis has already set the price at $250,000. So, the SUL is, in effect, a bribe that can be used to keep journalists/bloggers/twitterers in line. If you had a gift in your hand worth hundreds of thousands of dollars you would think twice before turning that gift away. I know I would. - Robert Scoble
Robert: I'd say no to that, @ev knows that those docs are out there now anyway. If you were the only with them (hypothetically speaking), then he might have. But he'd probably equate it to extortion. Would you really want that? - Mike Shea
I think twitter could just delete the techcrunch account if it wants to make a point. SUL removal wouldn't do much as they already have a lot of followers from it. - Darren Stuart
Stephen: that is a very difficult ethical position to arrive at, especially if your competitors are also on the SUL (Mashable is on the SUL right now). - Robert Scoble
Darren: wrong. If you remove yourself from the SUL you immediately start losing followers and start falling behind your competitors. - Robert Scoble
Scoble - so you're saying that blackmail is okay as long as it benefits you? - Tyler Hurst
Darren: in the race for advertising and PR and all that being at the top of the follower list gets you all sorts of goodies. http://www.wefollow.com for instance displays people in order of the number of the followers. - Robert Scoble
How did the valuation for getting on the SUL end up being done? Is there a dollar value per follower based on link click throughs + ad clickthroughs? - Dare Obasanjo
No one in the TC office yet, according to CrunchCam. Probably all sleeping. Boy today is going to be a busy day for them. - Mark
Tyler: no. I'm not saying that. I'm hoping that if I am in any of these positions that I would take the high road. But living on the high road is very difficult. - Robert Scoble
Dare: I used to help run a magazine with 100,000 subscribers that made millions in revenue every year. - Robert Scoble
Scoble - That's the answer I'd expect from you. Journalists ALWAYS take the high road. - Tyler Hurst
Dare: you could use a CPM (advertising fee per 1000 viewers) of $5 and come up with some sort of valuation. - Robert Scoble
You can't objectively report on a company who is paying you directly and for that matter its impossible to also be a journalist and the owner of the news organization. In the past there's always suppossed to have been a firewall between content and the business side. But that's out the window. Notice all the puff pieces about bing on the NYtimes. Hmmmm, I wonder if that could be all the advertising dollars? Hmmmmmm - Stephen Pickering
Tyler: journalists don't always take the high road. There are several New York Times journalists on the SUL if I remember right. - Robert Scoble
Scoble - I wouldn't say the NYT is a leader in journalistic ethics anymore, either. - Tyler Hurst
Wise words from @arrington "News is stuff someone doesn’t want you to write. The rest is advertising." - Mark
Stephen: exactly. Money does cause news organizations to carefully consider their coverage, even those who say it doesn't and that have a "Chinese firewall" between editorial and advertising. - Robert Scoble
No one is in this tight economy its all about $$$$$$$$$$$$ - Stephen Pickering
Mark - BS. he publishes rumors too. - Tyler Hurst
Stephen: if I had the documents I'd have to consider its impact on my employer, Rackspace. That's why I disclose all my conflicts of interest. - Robert Scoble
Scoble - do you believe Arrington's claim that he just received these documents? - Tyler Hurst
Robert: Trick is to take the employer out of the equation. What would you do if you were on your own? - Mike Shea
Robert: good points, are techcrunch going to publish the stories is the question now? I think twitter is at a point now where it does not matter if techcrunch start a war with them if they were to just ban all techcrunch and employee accounts. - Darren Stuart
There's no better publicity than bad publicity. Just remember that. Remember the whole Ashton and CNN thing? That turned out to be backed by twitter and created HUGE publicity for them. Something doesn't smell right. Not saying all bad publicity is good for both parties, but in a situation like this, it's plausible that both Ev/twitter and Mike/TC are just laughing their asses off as the publicity pulls in more page views - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Mike is not a journalist. He is a self-confessed showboater. - Mark Littlewood
Mike - so much for the honesty, transparency and authenticity we hoped social media and such would provide. A new ruling class has just replaced the old one. - Tyler Hurst
Tyler: yes, I do believe Arrington. - Robert Scoble
Does twitter go after the hacker? - Tyler Hurst
Tyler, especially with the whole mob thing and FF. Something is up here. Of course, I could be completely off my rocker and it's all just one big coincidence and Mike really is that much of a pompous ass. - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
The twit poll on the issue from TC http://twtpoll.com/2a1oiv showed an overwhelming stance from the community that posting the information is unethical. It might be better for TC to let someone else (Mashable) post the information, resulting in removal from a SUL and gaining both ethical rapport with the community and an edge over competition. This is one story that would be rough to break, why is that only TC has the information so far? That is the more alarming concern. - thestaticfrost
Well so far all he has posted about is the Twitter Reality TV pitch. So I suppose there is a chance Twitter convinces him to not post anything else. In my mind it would look bad if he backs down now given the perception of the SUL. - Kevin Whalen
Mark: Mashable won't publish these either. They have benefited from the SUL a lot more than Arrington has. - Robert Scoble
Robert, interesting POV, I would still personally stand down on the issue. - thestaticfrost
ethics a side I think its a case of - if SUL pageviews > estimated story pageviews then do not publish - Darren Stuart
Mark: on the SUL? Yeah, but the SUL is interesting and won't stop being interesting just because I stop writing about it. There are rafts of new journalistic text books being written because of it. - Robert Scoble
The more I think about this...the more it seems plausible that twitter has been doing stuff behind closed doors to generate publicity. Who's heard of twitter going after ANY hacker? Why is it only TC that this email was sent to? If a hacker REALLY had this info, wouldn't they do something a bit less obvious? Like I dunno...sell the stuff? Which brings up another question....how much did TC pay for this info? I guess if TC continues to be on the SUL we'll know the answer. - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Mike: what would I do if I were on my own? I'm biased toward publishing, but I need to know the facts first before I really could say one way or the other. - Robert Scoble
To put it in reverse, maybe if you got the documents you could give them back to Twitter in exchange for getting on the SUL. :) - Louis Gray
Mike: it's possible that the hacker works for TechCrunch or has a business relationship with TechCrunch. Mike has built a good network of people who offer him news before anyone else. The thing is now Mike has access to internal info at Twitter that will be hard to avoid in interviews with Twitter. - Robert Scoble
Mike/Robert: If a less reputable blogger/company had this information, it would already have been posted and this conversation would be moving another direction. The pageviews would trump any SUL. - thestaticfrost
mark - what a crappy way to make a name for yourself. publishing stolen documents to serve the public good is one thing, publishing as a smear campaign is wrong. - Tyler Hurst
Mark: I don't believe that's true. Remember, TechCrunch only had about 50,000 followers on Twitter before being added to the SUL. I seriously doubt one story would get them more than 100,000, even if it was the most interesting, sexy story around. - Robert Scoble
Tyler, it would be an awful way to make a name for yourself, I agree but that is not the issue. - thestaticfrost
Louis: word gets around when you extort companies. It's not a good thing and almost always comes back on you eventually as the people involved move to other companies and spread the news around. - Robert Scoble
Louis: if I had the documents I wouldn't use them as extortion for that reason. I know one guy who extorted a company and I'll always remember that. - Robert Scoble
Tyler, if TechCrunch was doing it as a smear campaign they would publish a lot more of the documents and have started off with something other that a softball. - Matthew McCowan
Arrington is getting it both ways here. He writes about it to say they're not going to post the most juicy stuff but he still gets most of the benefits of posting everything. A lot of people are talking about it. He's a master hypeologist. - Justin Whittaker
Matthew - that was in reference to a small blogger grabbing the documents and throwing them all out there. - Tyler Hurst
Justin: that is accurate about Arrington. - Robert Scoble
Tyler, oh gotcha - sorry - Matthew McCowan
Freaking Kelso is on the suggested users list, Arrington has 800K subscribers, hooray how many tweets fall silent in the Twitter forest. Much ado about nothing and the SUL. - Patrick Boegel
Matthew - no, techcrunch is doing it for the page views, of course. - Tyler Hurst
Robert, interesting tie of numbers into the SUL growth of TC. Perhaps there is an exorbitant value of the SUL, this story would just be pennies in comparison. I see no feasible monetary gain available for TC to violate this ethical issue. - thestaticfrost
Patrick: even if you aren't on the SUL most of your followers aren't listening. :-) - Robert Scoble
I'm sick of being monetized into the services I use.. It's almost enough to make me stop it all altogether. - John Blanton
John - stuff has to get paid for. - Tyler Hurst
Says John as he drinks a $4 latte from Starbucks. - Robert Scoble
"I'm sick of being monetized into the services I use." - Then turn off the TV and radio, don't buy any newspapers or magazines, or look at any ad-supported web sites. It's the way of the world. - John Craft
Stupid posh coffee. Normal coffee, with milk, please. - Mark
I guess I'm not seeing how the SUL status of TC is factoring. TC is going ahead and publishing the information they deem to be part of their news mission. Is the insinuation that if SUL status were not a factor, that TC would publish the entirety of the documents without culling non-TC mission-related information? - Matthew DeVries
that is what I mean Robert, I follow you for interesting information, not because someone suggested it, sure there are people who sign on for Twitter and just follow a host of the suggested users I guess, but I just see zero value in that, there is nothing organic in it, so it does not bother me, I am pretty sure the likes of Tech Crunch and Mashable have each questioned whether being on there has hurt or helped. Followers and fans is pretty "loose" terminology, and a metric that gets dicey after some time. - Patrick Boegel
I fully agree with the premise that SUL-Status is a COI consideration. - Matthew DeVries
Patrick: Arrington tells me that being on the SUL has brought them audience and, therefore, money. - Robert Scoble
I don't have a problem with Techcrunch releasing the articles they are, however don't say they are doing in for public interest. They are doing it for Techcrunch interest, nothing wrong with that, but lets be honest. - Kim Landwehr
Right now the man with all the answers is fast asleep in his bed, dreaming of world domination - Mark
Kim - yep. - Tyler Hurst
Matthew: pat of the "Mission" of a business is never to shoot yourself in the foot. - thestaticfrost
Can we just ignore the people who claim SUL status is not of value? It's like arguing with flat-eatherers at this point. Just accept it as fact and let's discuss how this value is affecting TC's behavior here. - Matthew DeVries
Robert: This is what happened when the lovely Veronica Belmont finally responded to my questions regarding the number of 'bots' following those on the SUL :http://ff.im/57MjU - Jim Connolly
I'd like to see an estimate of the ROI of being on the SUL. Different for everyone, but it can be modeled. Would bring an interesting new perspective into the discussion. - Peter Kim
Matthew - the only debate of SUL value would be total worth, not if it has a worth. - Tyler Hurst
If I could offer you hundreds of thousands of extra hits on your website a year, for FREE, would you accept? - Mark
Mark: there is no such thing as a free lunch. - Robert Scoble
Nothing is ever free. - thestaticfrost
But that's a debate for a different thread. We're in the midst of a real time story right now, and we should be discussing how that thing of value is affecting TC's reporting of a story. I would contend it's not, as TC is going ahead and publishing the documents, without regard for loss of SUL-Status. - Matthew DeVries
hehe - Mark
What if Twitter is using their influence at TechCrunch, to manage the delivery of this 'story?' Better that, than someone publish the story, with a negative spin. - Jim Connolly
Matthew: how do you know it's not? Mike has already said he's talking with Twitter and he hasn't published the information. So, he gets best of both worlds. Gets credit for having the info, and now has inside access that no one else has. The SUL might never have even come up (I doubt it has, actually) but now we're wondering what kind of deal they made. - Robert Scoble
That would be a good point, Jim, but what I've read from Arrington is that they're publishing the documents that relate to their news mission. - Matthew DeVries
here is a link to a story that deals with Arringtons "wise words" http://ff.im/5g6LJ - Marco
Matthew: yes, which leads me to think that he made a deal with Twitter. - Robert Scoble
TC has not let the cat out yet, no reason to believe that it will. They made it past the first hour of having the information which is most crucial to it being fully released. - thestaticfrost
Robert - I agree that is a realistic concern, but I would reserve judgement until the story rolls. - Matthew DeVries
Good point Jim. That TC story was actually Incredibly measured. Not like arrington at all. Hmmmmm.... - Roberto Bonini from iPhone
Matthew: I'm not judging, just bringing up the potential conflicts of interest to discuss them. I don't see anyone judging here yet. - Robert Scoble
I agree with Arrington's assertion that publishing what kind of panties @ev's wife wears would not be within TC's news mission. - Matthew DeVries
Correct. You're not judging. Just trying to stem the mob till they have a true target. - Matthew DeVries
Robert: In your experience, would Michael Arrington NORMALLY be this careful about drip feeding a story, so as NOT to offend the person / company featured in the story? - Jim Connolly
And Robert: your points here SHOULD be in the front of everyone's mind when they do roll the story. - Matthew DeVries
I may be naive here, but I also think any Twitter-directed communication regarding the release should be disclosed by Arrington when the story rolls, else he's not a reporter, he's a shill. - Matthew DeVries
Jim: Twitter is the story of the year. So, yes, he's being more careful here than he otherwise would. And, if these documents were stolen, he's also a lawyer and is being careful to make sure he stays on the legal side of the line. I would be very careful with this story too. I have a different conflict of interest, though, which is that I'm an employee of Rackspace and would have to consider the impact of such a story on my company. - Robert Scoble
Let's be clear if Techcrunch has the information, so does someone else. The information is going to get out. Techcrunch maybe releasing the story slowly to maintain the interest. My guess is they are getting a lot more hits with this story then they would normally - Kim Landwehr
Matthew: I like to pretend I live in a dream world sometimes too, but I don't. I doubt we'll hear what was actually said back and forth in an off-the-record conversation. If i were Ev the first thing I would have said is "this is an off the record conversation, right?" And then if Arrington repeated it he would lose status too, because sources wouldn't trust him to talk openly. - Robert Scoble
Kim: if other people have the story they will publish it all at once. So doing a slow rollout would actually be stupid. I bet no one else has the story, yet. - Robert Scoble
I don't see them on the twitter SUL - Orli Yakuel
Ok, going too lunch. This will probably outpace me too far to catch up. Not ducking direct questions to me. - Matthew DeVries
Orli: see who? - Robert Scoble
Orli: if you are already following TechCrunch and Mashable they won't appear on the SUL, you've gotta check with an account that isn't following them. - Robert Scoble
oh, silly me. I remember that list before BTW, it's just got HUGE. who's checking there anyway? - Orli Yakuel
Orli: most new users of Twitter get shown the list and get the option to follow everyone on it. - Robert Scoble
It looks like some of the same information is being released on a French Web site per bizjournal - Kim Landwehr
Sorry if this is a repeat, I haven't managed to read every single comment... @techcrunch didn't even publish these docs first; why are they taking all the heat? This was the first place I saw it - http://bit.ly/10FySf - Kenton
um. - Orli Yakuel
Kenton: Because Arrington himself said he would publish them. Arrington is a joke and far from a true journalist. - John Fox
John: I disagree with you about Arrington. But so far nothing is that interesting in what the French site has published. So I'm wondering what the big deal is? Maybe Arrington knows that there's no real news value in what was gained, so he is making lemonade out of lemons? The real story here is that Google's security measures were overcome, so this is a cautionary tale about putting private info into the cloud. - Robert Scoble
I totally agree about your cloud comment Robert. This should be a lesson to everyone who's jumping on the bandwagon without thinking about the risks. - Kenton
Here's another post from Business Insider. Now that the docs have been published, everyone can link ethically, even though the info was stolen. Ahh, I love the journalism business sometimes. http://www.businessinsider.com/twitter... - Robert Scoble
Robert: I don't see where the educational part of the content is that he's going to publish. What will be gained except corporate secrets and Twitter's dirty laundry? If this was a major corporation, he'd an injunction would be in effect right now. Yes, shame on Twitter for putting that kind of information in the cloud without adequate security, but then again, Arrington doesn't need to take advantage of the situation for notariety alone. That's a poor ethical standard. - John Fox
John: Arrington gets the best of both worlds. He gets credit for thinking through the publishing of this info, while other people do the dirty work. See http://www.businessinsider.com/twitter... Why didn't Arrington just publish? Well, the SUL is one potential reason. Are there others? Did @ev give him an exclusive? Or some other reason not to publish? We'll never know. - Robert Scoble
Arrington is definitely doing some back dealing which quite frankly makes him lose credibility. - Kevin Whalen from email
I think by the time Arrington wakes up (lazy bastard) he will have been Scooped by other websites - Mark
Robert: I don't doubt that Arrington walked a fine line, thinking through the publishing of the info. I don't fault him for that. As a tech writer myself, I know there are certain things that will get you sued in a heartbeat. However, I don't see what Arrington has to gain from this other than notariety and to get TC's name out there even more. This is a tainted story from the start.... more... - John Fox
Ok question, are we mad at Techcrunch ie Arrington, because he published only part of the information or that he publish the information at all or that he said he would publish it and didn't? - Kim Landwehr
I'm not saying it's okay to publish ill-gotten confidential material but people would be less tempted to do so if Twitter were more transparent and less secretive. For a social network, they have a real 1.0 social media philosophy. Even Facebook reveals information about their userbase and growth. But Twitter is like a black box as the #fixreplies disaster revealed. And since that hashtag dropped off the Trending Topics, we've never heard any more about their proposed solution. - Liz
The lack of democracy on the SUL is one of the most disturbing aspects of Twitter. It pushes Twitter towards an echo chamber since new people just follow the same old people. There needs to be some serious rotation. - Trent Hamm
Didn't Kevin Rose design an enhanced SUL for Twitter? Where people who identify themself with a tag tell you who they follow with that tag? - Matthew DeVries
Matthew: yes, Rose runs http://www.wefollow.com -- the problem is that most people on the home page and at the top of most lists are on Twitter's SUL. - Robert Scoble
Just logged into twitter and a big red box tells me my account is suspensed for strange activity. Hmm - Mark
But I can still post. Hmm - Mark
I am reading that thousands of twitter accounts have been wrongly suspended due to "human error". Has anyone heard anything? - Mark
he sees to have delisons of Grandure Murdoch gets away with hacking becasue of his power and the willingness of cronys to take the fall and the plod to turn a blind eye - he still needs to mak the public interest defence which he has not - Maurice Walshe
Twitter's response: http://blog.twitter.com - Liz
Judging by Liz's link, looks like Twitter chose to play cards in public and Twitter just won. Talking about "The underware drawer" analogy flat out says the documents are gossip and not a story. This makes TechCrunch look like a gossip rag. Twitter also focused on their users and their security- the Ace of Spades. Bravo. - E-Advocate Network
Calling TechCrunch a journalistic entity is an extreme stretch of the imagination, as the vast majority of their blogs are opinion totally devoid of fact. TechCrunch has found that "ethical line" Arrington mentioned, and tripped right over it, falling face first into the sewer. Indeed, TechCrunch's true colors have now revealed just how much of a gossip rag they are, totally lacking in... more... - jcunwired
I was wrongly suspended along with 9 others months ago. It was a terrible experience. - DaveDelaney.ME
my question for mr. scoble is, if the same documents landed in your inbox would you have done the same thing? - Tobias Lewsadder
poop - Jacob
Just curious about something. Earlier I tried following Techcrunch on Twitter and found I was blocked, supposedly "at the request of the user." Since I don't remember saying a bad word about Techcrunch or Michael (as Robert can attest from discussions in the past couple of months, I've usually defended Arrington on a few things), I'm wondering if the block was TechCrunch's doing or Twitter's. - George Hall (Australia)
Philipp Lenssen
Please post a line of code from your current project which will probably make absolutely no sense to an outsider.
class SubscriptionsHandler(SubscriptionsHandler): [EDIT: Casey deleted this section of code with the comment "remove unused and terrifying code" ] - Gary Burd
<p class="byline-author-<?php the_author(); ?>">Par <?php the_author(); ?></p> - Luka
fields.extend([("%s%d" % (k,i), None, val) for i,val in enumerate(v)]) - Tudor Bosman
Gary's is my personal favorite. - Benjamin Golub
ClientsData = sorted(store.find(Client), key=lambda x:x.denomination) - directeur
(apply self-promote (list-ref sites (brl-random (length sites)))) - Bruce Lewis
i++; - Paul W. Homer
var i,e={"%7C":'|','%2C':',','%3A':':','%3D':'='} - Chris Myles
<?php if (is_page('happy-people-heartfelt-recommendations')){ - berchman
var newPay = oldPay/0; alert(newPay); - Swaroop
Swaroop..if ONLY it was that easy.. nice one! - Chris Myles
there goes the myth of self documenting code.......... - Roberto Bonini
sqlite3 cookies.db "select * from Cookies where domain_tail = 'app.phone';" | awk -F\| '{print $5}' | sed -e 's/%22//g' - Jauder Ho
oh yeah.. gotta throw some awk in there.. awk's what got me into software development (sounds strange I know.. but it was 1989). - Chris Myles
How about a FriendFeed code line? :) - Diego Barros 
Diego: The first comment on this entry is from FriendFeed - Benjamin Golub
My line of code was also from FriendFeed. - Tudor Bosman from email
find . -type f -exec md5sum {} \; > ~/M1.md5sums - Matt Cutts
drupal_bootstrap(DRUPAL_BOOTSTRAP_FULL); - Justin Hopkins from twhirl
if (!preg_match('/FROM\s+\S+\s+AS/si', $query) - Mark Trapp
Who's an "outsider"? I figured this would be easy, but if I examine the code on a per-line basis, it's obvious what it's doing. It's at one level up, the conceptual statement or function level, where, without the function name, it would make absolutely no sense. - Andy Bakun
zbd t1,4(a0) - DGentry
let (|MultipleOf|_|) x input = if input % x = 0 then Some(input / x) else None - Akiva Moskovitz
partial:XN YN,,,#n - CdL Creative
I think mine claims the distinction of the least amount of useful work in a single line of code. Assembly language for the (dubious) win! - DGentry
Not so quick Denton, for my line: i was probably already in the register, thus i++ is a simple register increment. Is that indirection as your second argument? Hmmm.... - Paul W. Homer
Blast! I think Paul is right: his would compile to a simple add immediate, where mine loads a value from memory and also operates on it. Darn it, assembly language failed me. I should learn a new skill, maybe macrame or something. - DGentry
exec("WorldDomination.now"); - AJ Batac
Marshall Kirkpatrick
I wish everyone put their phone number in their email signature. life would be so much easier that way
never really thought of doing this but I really should - Darren Stuart
My phone number is on the e-mail signature, on the blog and in every single RSS feed. 408 646 2759 - Louis Gray
In the Google Future, all emails will be Waves with a "click here to contact via Google Voice" button. - Daniel J. Pritchett
brb prank calling Louis Gray. - Andrizzle Gizzle
I put my phone number in my Twitter bio since I use email less nowadays. - Bernie Goldbach
mashable
World Domination: The iPhone is #1 in Japan - http://mashable.com/2009...
Steve Rubel
In other news, I am no longer going to publish to my blog. Posterous and my lifestream there will be home base http://www.steverubel.com/its-off...
I think this is a mistake - you're completely relying on others to own your content. If any of them go down that content's gone forever. - Jesse Stay
BTW, you can find Wordpress plugins that do the auto-posting on self-hosted Wordpress installations. - Jesse Stay
Jesse, don't you post to posterous via e-mail? Seems like everything you create will at least be in your Sent folder. - Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva, it just seems like you're losing control by doing that. I can post to my blog via e-mail as well with the right plugins. - Jesse Stay
Jesse, true. I'm just wondering if something like posterous might be a good solution for people who have had their urge to fully blog sapped away by sites like FriendFeed. I barely post anywhere now but often wish I had something more flexible than FriendFeed but without all of the hassle and overhead of running a WordPress blog. People don't seem to complain about giving up e-mail to Google; why is posterous different? - Akiva Moskovitz
That's a change, but have just started utilizing them as well in addition so it's easy to see why. - James Stratford
Akiva, I'm trying to bring more of the FriendFeed, Twitter, etc. conversation over to my personal blog, personally. IMO that's something e-mail can't backup - the conversations are what I'm trying to own even more than the content. - Jesse Stay
Jesse, ah, yeah, that's a great point. I didn't even consider the comments. You would almost think that there was a business idea in here somewhere: some kind of cross-platform/cross-site back-up solution for people who blogs and comments strewn all over the Internet. - Akiva Moskovitz
Its difficult to control the formatting in posterous: its great for photos plus captions, but will you be attempting to publish long-form essays or other articles there too? I use posterous/tumblr for quick little things and blogger for longer articles. - DGentry
Akiva, technically, you could use Disqus or Backtype to do that, but again, I want it all happening around my blog and my brand. I want control, not another company to control. - Jesse Stay
Technically you could use Disqus or Backtype, but that is not the easiest implementation and then the commenters need accounts, don't they? I agree with Akiva, there is a great need for an easy product that could integrate disparate comment threads and bring them back to a blog. - Laura Norvig
I don't even necessarily want them in a blog. I want them in some kind of format that I can store them, manipulate them, and/or re-consume them without having to rely on all of the original source sites/formats. I'm talking about a back-up system and not an import system. - Akiva Moskovitz
Laura, the commenters don't need Disqus accounts. See Fred Wilson's breakdown: http://www.avc.com/a_vc... - Bruce Lewis
@DG I will be. Try posting to it from GMail. - Steve Rubel
One thing. Posterous converts all embedded media links into internal references, so you will NOT be able to get your content off their servers if anything ever goes wrong. Go into the source view of one your posts on Posterous which includes a YouTube video or whatever, and you'll see what I mean. - Marlin Forbes
And another thing, you want control over your brand? Posterous doesn't allow much in the way of customization of the blog design. Last time I used it, every blog on their system looked exactly the same. Way to stand out from the crowd. Wanna adjust the behaviour of the blog by adding plugins? No can do. I like the idea, but if the only reason you're doing it is for the auto-posting by e-mail, then there's loads of ways of doing that without losing control over your content. - Marlin Forbes
Posterous SEO has room for improvement. They are aware of this but have no immediate plans to address this. Just something to consider. - Jauder Ho
You can also see your lifestream here: http://ff.amplifeeder.com/user... - Paul Kinlan
@JH how? - Steve Rubel from email
@Robert Zemanta is great, but why is "look more like a blogpost" a desireable trait? - Wade Dorrell
@Jesse I agree with everything you are saying... but regarding ownership -- what about all the content you pump into FF, FB, and twitter? you don't own that - andy brudtkuhl
Jesse and Andy - As I understand it, content you create is yours. But Steve would be relying on Posterous to display that content. A couple of backup strategies come to mind. It's there in your email, nicely backed up. You could autopost that content to Tumblr or, say, a Wordpress.com blog, where it will be there as a live backup. Comments, though, are for now stuck on Posterous, and it would require screen scraping to retrieve them. I don't know if/when the Posterous guys intend to make them exportable. - Eric Johnson
Actually, the Posterous API supports export of posts, media *and comments*. So with a little scripting, you can take it all with you should you need to leave. http://posterous.com/api... - Eric Johnson
Good debate here with very valid points (re: control, SEO, etc.). I would say that Posterous (or Tumblr) should only be 1 of the many elements of your social media presence. Can see Steve's need for a shorter outlet though, as I've been using Posterous myself in this way for the last 6 months, as a "Quick Hits" outlet to post excerpts and brief responses to -... more... - Alex Schleber
I agree with those who do not agree: you lose conreol, tracking data, referrers etc. You have far less conreol over the communications (and gaining that is the main reasin to blog anyways ;) ) - oliver gassner
Oliver that's not the case with Posterous. - Steve Rubel from email
Robert Scoble
Putting knowledge into Twitter makes me sad because it is almost impossible to pull it out again in future.
No kidding :-) - Jason Cronkhite
But it's real time! Once you've put the knowledge in there, it's already old. - Andy Bakun
It needs to be indexed and achieved - Chris Duffy
Ya, It's like the email of 2009 in that sense. - Malcolm Bastien
Andy: OK, quick, find me all the tweets that replied to my netbook question - Robert Scoble
Robert: that was sarcasm. - Andy Bakun
FriendFeed is infinitely better, and I want to thank you, Scoble, for introducing me to it. Unfortunately, I still find myself opening Facebook from time to time, as I cannot seem to integrate that into FriendFeed properly :( - Carlton Prest
I know that's impossible. Which is why people should use friendfeed instead. Friendfeed: where search actually works. - Andy Bakun
Carlton: that's a problem with facebook's platform. - Andy Bakun
Once FF integrates better with blogging systems - then we'll see a greater adoption. - LPH™ and his dog P™
Jonathan: yes. In FriendFeed knowledge is bundled together and can be found in the future. - Robert Scoble
Does anyone know if all your Tweets are archived forever? Do they ever expire? - Ideas At Random
Under what circumstanced is Twitter a good knowledge-base? - Amit Morson
Twitter archives your tweets: if you delete them, it takes like 3 weeks for them to disappear out of search. - Andy Bakun
but twitter do not need to offer this - thousands of apps already exist to pull out the knowledge you want it. e.g. find what links you posted -> http://tweetmeme.com/user... - Nick Halstead
Ideas: My early Tweets are not indexed. You can't find early Tweets from the Chinese earthquake, for instance. Are they saved? Probably, but since they aren't indexed in Twitter search it doesn't matter. - Robert Scoble
Nick: bullshit. Find everyone who responded to my Netbook question over on Twitter. Some responded without using my name. - Robert Scoble
What's interesting about this challenge is that since twitter's search ability is what's being questioned, there's really no way to verify that _everything_ could be found, because there's no external, non-twitter copy of all of twitter to see if you could find _everything_ about any given topic. You can't be sure that you found everything. - Andy Bakun
They'll be a search or other app capability that will make getting anything you want out easy in future. The whole world will be (increasingly) organized, and not just via Google. - Alex Hammer
Alex: that's not true. Each Tweet does not have enough metadata to make search easy. This is the #1 reason why I have been pushing FriendFeed so hard. - Robert Scoble
Alex: that's the future. What about now? - Andy Bakun
It's almost impossible to find a tweet. It's only 140 characters of info with no metadata. Each tweet is just not individual enough to find again later. Needles and haystacks... - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Yep, metadata is the key, and 140 characters is not enough to even store unstructured metadata AND the content itself. - Andy Bakun
Once you shout out the window it is gone... unless you live in a canyon. - Art Witczak
Robert (from FF and copying Twitter): I have heard that Google is planning to launch a search engine for twitts. If so, that could be a very good solution to store, index and retrieve all the knowledge in Twitter. By the way, 140 characters are not that heavy! - Eduardo Loyola
@ Robert Scoble ...Have you tried searching your FF account for your early Tweets, like the Chinese earthquake? - Ideas At Random
Ideas: I have and it is better than Twitter but not perfect. - Robert Scoble
You mean "impossible" as in the rich API with which tons of developers have found tons of ways to interact with Twitter? I'm no dev, but it sounds like it's one of the most accessible services yet. - David Chartier
David: twitter's API can't add the metadata that will make search good. - Robert Scoble
Yeah, Robert is right there. The API just doesn't make search any better. Everything is just too much of the same. - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
If you send all your tweets to FriendFeed they are much easier to search and find later. Or use LoudTwitter < http://loudtwitter.com > you can backup your tweets to your blog and archive them. - Chris Loft
Good point. That's why I archive my tweets. It ain't pretty, but it works: http://davestweets.tumblr.com/ - DaveDelaney.ME
I still have a lot of followers on twitter that are not on FF. I see that changing fast, but I have no desire to set up a bunch of "fake" accounts. I wish I could just view twitter users in FF. The way that Steve Rubel uses Gmail, is changing my workflow for sure however... - Robert from email
Those fake accounts sure are a pain in the arse to set up. - Mark
I realized the difference when I googled something and found the answer in a friendfeed thread, not going to get that via twitter. - BCK
Agreed, thats all I will say - polou/indigo_bow
Take heart Mr. Scoble, the next big Twitter is looming nearby, the developers are coding it as we speak..This is the most amazing time for technology, as long as the 'bean-counters' don't kill the innovation.. Respectfully, Nicholas Chase - Nicholas Chase
Workaround for archiving my Twitter conversations. I setup a rss feed based on a search results with my username.(ie http://search.twitter.com/search...) and have the feed in Google Reader. Now I can quickly search my old tweets. Yes, I know it doesn't help find other people's tweets or info. But, with using my Twitter username as the search word, I archive @replies, and any mentions. I started this with Google Reader in January and have access to every tweet I sent and received since then. - Brian
That is real time, man. Why we don't understand: it is not there if it is not happening in real time. - Nitin Nanivadekar
As we are moving towards a real time stream of information, we fail to conserve the value. Twitter Search lists the latest messages on your query and therefore any tweet older than a couple minutes is lost. I would love a time line of the election in Iran from the beginning with coverage of the main events within the election, the most important messages and the leading users. Than, add photo and video footage and Twitter would have real time coverage of events. - Thomas R. Stegelmann
Whatever actual knowledge Twitter has to offer is generated via network effects -it is collective, not Scoble- who along with 'us,' contibute time, presence and input which is sometimes smart + insightful, sometimes off-the-cuff, sometimes emotional + sensational, sometimes (yes, even) frivolous... all of which generates a certain kind of intelligence. And yes, given a specific context, this might pass for knowledge. - Brad Kligerman
I have my twitter home feed imported here as an imaginary friend, just to make searching it easier, so I can restrict the search to my home feed instead of the entire twitterverse. - April Russo (app103)
That's why everyone should pipe their tweets into FriendFeed, even Technosailor Aaron Brazell. All of them are retained, and they're easily searchable. - Hutch Carpenter
What should be added in a search engine to make it more viable? - James Stratford
Maybe you need to stop thinking of Twitter as something you 'put things in' that you later need to 'take out'. If Twitter is not a type of container, what else could it be? I think Twitter is a thought process, a community thought process. It helps you think, it helps you generate new ideas from it's own content. You don't need to take things out, you just need to add your thoughts to it. - Joolio
Robert are you aware of Tweetree? It is like Twitter in HD. http://tweetree.com/garinki... It does a much better job tracking Twitter replies and it will insert videos, entire blog posts, and even the entire ff thread in real-time from any tweets that are made via ff. - Garin Kilpatrick
Garin: Thanks for the link. Great site! Hadn't heard of tweetree before. - Mike Bracco
Mike: You're welcome! Glad you like it :) - Garin Kilpatrick
You should try out http://www.tweets2mail.com then you can search directly from within gmail :) - NerdyHearn
This is the reason why I have Louttwitetr blog all my daily tweets in a blog dedicated to this ;) Same for delicvious links to also share the link-love - oliver gassner
Leo Laporte
Rumor: Windows 7 to be sold on USB drives - Ars Technica - http://arstechnica.com/microso...
CNET quotes an undisclosed source in its speculative report: "Microsoft is considering offering Windows 7 on a thumb drive to allow netbook owners to more easily upgrade their machines." Microsoft confirmed in February that all editions of Windows 7 would run on netbooks but never disclosed how those who already own the low-end computers could get the operating system on their system. The currently only known solution, downloading a copy and putting the installation on a USB drive, isn't a process many netbook users would be happy to do. If the USB drive option is skipped, most will likely have a friend or a tech support guy get the job done for them. - Leo Laporte
I wonder if Microsoft will provide a simple utility to copy the windows 7 install DVD to a thumb drive. I installed the RC on my netbook using DISKPART to format a thumb drive and copy the DVD to the thumb drive, etc, but as you say Leo, that's a bit geeky for the average user. Of course, if your only computer is a netbook, having a utility from Microsoft won't be of much help. - Michael
It surprised me, actually, how complicated it was to get a boot sector onto a flash drive compared to burning the windows 7 beta onto a disk. You would think someone would have written a simpler utility for that by now, but I guess you really don't need that many bootable flash drives. - Craig B.
Ryan - @magicofpi
Lifehacker's Top 10 Productivity Basics Explained: excellent tips, if you're not already doing these http://lifehacker.com/5303204...
Julian Seery Gude
Local news producer uses video iPhone 3GS to shoot, edit and voice over his video and broadcast the results on Miami CBS Affiliate TV station Channel 4. http://cbs4.com/local...
That is great...but there have been a lot of small, portable solutions for video way before this version of the iPhone. It's kinda strange to see this enthusiasm for something we have been able to do for a while. - Kreg Steppe
Kreg, you get that but the world doesn't and that's what will be different over the next 24 months. Regular people will start using online video shot on a 3GS just like regular people are using twitter today when very few of us were three years ago. More fully explained http://www.blog.julians.name/2009... - Julian Seery Gude
Were "Fins Cheerleaders" also shot with an iPhone 3GS? :-p http://cbs4.com/slidesh... - LonelyBob from twhirl
Louis Gray
Would you give up your spouse, car, Internet, iPhone or DVD player in order to keep your TiVo? Survey says...
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BTW - I didn't REALLY say I would give up my spouse for TiVo. I just wanted it for the screen cap. - Louis Gray
Dvd player - Shevonne from fftogo
I would only give up my DVD player for TiVo. - felix
Guy walks into a Best Buy and says, "I'd like a TiVo for my wife." "Sorry, sir, no trades." - Stephen Mack
I could live without DVD, now if I only had a HD TiVo, that would really up the ante - Rick Bucich
I've never owned a TiVo - Jesse Stay
Hey Jesse... think of it this way. TiVo is FriendFeed for your TV. :) - Louis Gray
Louis, I have Windows Media Center to do that, and I can do much more :-P Not to mention my Netflix subscription and Hulu access - Jesse Stay
All for free... - Jesse Stay
Free? Jesse, how did you get yourself free WMC software and hardware? - Stephen Mack
Stephen, I mean I don't pay any monthly fee. TiVo costs money up front too. And Windows 7 is free right now. - Jesse Stay
You can easily get all of our models with Product Lifetime to avoid monthly fees, and the end result will be cheaper, quieter and more reliable than any WMC set-up. (Sure, I'm biased.) - Stephen Mack
Stephen, I've had my PC for 3 years now, and anything that needs to be fixed, upgraded or replaced I only have to replace the part. Add into that I would have the computer anyway for my kids and family (it is the family computer), there is really 0 cost for the WMC components. :-) (and no bias here, sorry - I'm actually a Mac user) - Jesse Stay
I find Tivo extremely expendable. Mostly because I prefer to get all of my television on the computer through various sources. - Geoff Schultz
Jesse, so when someone in your family wants to check e-mail, you have to stop watching Macgyver? Geoff, are you sitting on a couch to do that watching, or in your office on an office chair? Everyone has their own preferences, but neither of those scenarios are what I would choose. - Stephen Mack
In many ways the debate between a dedicated DVR like TiVo vs. a PC or Mac is like the debate between dedicated game machines (like a Wii or an Xbox) vs. a PC or Mac. Yes, PCs and Macs can run some games very well. But if all you want is a dedicated game machine for running games, it's often convenient and easier to get hardware just for that purpose. Here's my FriendFeed promise: Try... more... - Stephen Mack
Stephen, you need to learn your competition. WMC is a service - it runs in the background. No normal usage of the PC affects any of the WMC components. My PC runs in my basement office, and streams all content up to my Xbox - in fact, it can run it up to multiple extenders throughout the house, all on one device, no monthly fees, and I can continue to use the PC as a PC with no... more... - Jesse Stay
That said, the advantage TiVo does have (which isn't worth it to me, IMO) is that it's a device you can plug and play, no additional set up or network connection necessary. Microsoft is failing in educating its users on this particular use-case. It's actually not hard on WMC - people just don't know about it. - Jesse Stay
Ah, Jesse, I presumed you were using your PC with WMC in your living room and not an extender. Bad assumption on my part. But I meet so few people who know about extender features and have configured it properly. I think you're right that Microsoft needs to educate more, but I'm not complaining that they don't. - Stephen Mack
Jesse... you're comparing apples and oranges. TiVo is the gold standard and has defined what the world expects from a DVR. Nothing else comes close. What you're trying to compare is like saying that you can make a white box PC at Frys and that it's better than a Dell or a Mac. Walk away. - Louis Gray
Louis, what you're implying is that what I'm doing is a hack - this is software that comes pre-installed with all new versions of Windows 7. It's an education and UI issue on Microsoft's part. All anyone needs to buy is a Windows Media Center extender (which would be the equivalent to the TiVo), plug it in, and it pretty much works out of the box if you have a Windows 7 machine (Dell, HP, etc) anywhere on the network. - Jesse Stay
And in my case I already have an Xbox 360 so that Media Center Extender is already built-in. - Jesse Stay
Josh it's the only thing Microsoft is good for. The only reason I still have a PC to tell you the truth - otherwise I'd just own a Mac. In one box (my Xbox 360), I get the DVR capabilities, Apple TV Capabilities, a DVD player, and much, much more. I have no need for a TiVo because of it, and in this case I think it's reason to call it competition for them. - Jesse Stay
Josh, actually Microsoft is shipping a lot more commercial Media Extenders now, especially since Vista and now Windows 7. They're really starting to push that market. - Jesse Stay
Josh regarding stability I haven't had a major crash in about a year on my Vista machine. It's all about finding a computer fast enough to handle it - no different than a Mac. On Macs they just come pre-bundled with the hardware needed for the OS. - Jesse Stay
Josh, Microsoft is *years* ahead of Apple in that game right now. I've owned an AppleTV before and was left much wanting. - Jesse Stay
Jesse, sounds like you're opening a new thread re: the Apple TV. Ours does great. It's iTunes for the TV and it does exactly that. Could it be stronger? Sure. But if you let iTunes be your media filter, which I do, there's no alternative. AppleTV and TiVo keep our living room Microsoft free. We don't to give the twins Redmond Radiation. - Louis Gray
Louis and Josh name one thing the AppleTV does that my combined Xbox 360 and WMC machine can't do. I can name at least 10 features that mine can do that your AppleTV can't do. - Jesse Stay
Josh, why buy the movie when you can just stream it for cheaper? I can integrate my iPod with my Xbox as easily as a Zune. Why do I have to use a Zune? - Jesse Stay
Josh, how is that? My iPhone works great with the Microsoft experience. You're now just sounding like an Apple fanboy. I don't think Microsoft ever said you had to use a Zune with the experience. - Jesse Stay
Josh, and that's one deficiency of the AppleTV - lack of flexibility - Jesse Stay
Josh I'm typing this on a MacBook Pro, and just reserved another iPhone for my wife. How am I a Microsoft FanBoy? I've owned both an AppleTV *and* an Xbox 360. I like features of each. - Jesse Stay
Josh, I think you'll find that my defense has been very constructive. I'm very willing to point out Apple's flaws where they occur. I am also willing to point out Microsoft's flaws where they lie as well. Microsoft has many more flaws than Apple right now. - Jesse Stay
such as what? Microsoft's flaws? Or Microsoft's strengths? - Jesse Stay
Josh, their OS doesn't fit my needs for one. I need the equivalent to Spaces. I need a bash shell as a *nix developer. Windows 7 blue screens for me all the time. I hate their anti-OSS mentality. I hate the UI of Windows, although it's heading in the right direction. I hate that Windows takes up 40 GB of my hard drive. I hate that they still have yet to perfect 64 bit architecture. I hate that they are trying to rope developers into their own platform and environment. I hate the cost of Windows. - Jesse Stay
I like the beer/chocolate right after spouse, like, yeah now that THAT's gone... bring on the binging! - anna sauce
Anna, I do like Bing, but it's no Google - Jesse Stay
Josh, it's the exact reason I own both Microsoft and Apple products. It's also the same reason I run Linux for my server environment. - Jesse Stay
I choose the best tool for the job - Jesse Stay
Stephen, I have my PC hooked up to a flat panel TV as a secondary display. So as far as a different "experience" there isn't one for me. I have DirecTV(which is not TiVo but a fairly comparable product) hooked up to the same television but it just sort of sits there as noise when I am doing other things and when it comes time to watch I change input. The interesting thing is that I could easily dvr the programming and, well, just don't for what ever reason. - Geoff Schultz
I don't have TiVo. - Morton Fox
No - Seek Ground from email
Robert Scoble
53% of my 96,000 followers don't follow directions. They are useless. The others will discuss this on FriendFeed here:
you mean like so? :) - Iwan
:-) seriously, everyone wants followers but what good are they if they won't do anything you tell them to do? Useless! - Robert Scoble
hahah that is soo funny - Susan Beebe
yet sooo true. wondering just how long until people figure it out - Susan Beebe
huh? - Gabriel
is this a timed challenge? - Iwan
Hmmm... - Adam
Literally LOLing at this, Robert. - ha3rvey (wants confit)
Yes master... - Chris Forbes
You're not the boss of me! :) - jcunwired
i'm not sure what you mean ;) - Suzannah Archibald
I want to know how many of them consider themselves social media experts? - Colin Anawaty
bit of a pompous mood today? when have you ever expected anyone to follow directions on the net? - Doubledown_inSL
I was lost when Robert was at the 140 conference - he wasn't active here so I didn't know what to read...haha - Mike Bracco
*looks around for FF koolaid* - Susan Beebe
Fine, so I am useless. - Julie Anderson
Getting people to follow directions on the internet is akin to herding cats. Best of luck. :) - Keith Bourgoin
Any reccomendations for friend feed convos on the iPhone? - Stuart Tracte
FF sux nardz - Doubledown_inSL
How could I defy the techno-hulk? - Amanda Magee
ahah, like most of the followers on twitter =) - Pierre TAMISIER
You are fired up today...you might want to switch to decaf. GOOD GODS, WHAT AM I SAYING. - M.L. Stone
but 47% of people go on FF? that is quite good - Billy Fung
So, 47% or your followers are expected to discuss here? The comment counter is going to explode. - Brome
http://friendfeed.com/iphone works well. At least, it works well on my Android - Keith Bourgoin
3% of Scobes followers are still trapped on Myspace - Doubledown_inSL
twitter wasn't an interactive medium was it? :P - jaspio
What? - fanch_guy
Kevin: only about 42,000 of my 96,000 followers are here. Useless! I think they are all spammers or bots. - Robert Scoble
I'm amazed how fast this thread is growing. - Nick Prince
You mean 95,999 followers. - Robert Peterson
Very clever. - Nicole
that mass growing of the thread would be the 47% who can follow instructions ;o) - Carl Grint
I keep having to block spammy, icky followers on twitter, mostly porn and get-rich schemers..augh! - Susan Beebe
I refuse to respond to such a claim! - Al Fuller
seriously, how much is FriendFeed paying you? - Greg Hollingsworth
"I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep." John 10:11 - don manu
What am I not supposed to do? Where is the line? - Brian Goss
Spammers and bots eh? Great minds think alike? - ralphsaunders
What prize are you going to give your 100,000 follower? - Mike Bracco
*reading and where is my popcorn? ;) ;)* - Ronald
Greg: I got a free t-shirt. - Robert Scoble
Flame bater - Ron Hudson
following on twitter AND NOT subscribing on FF = useless? - Alexei Zheglov
promised to cure cancer at 100k - Doubledown_inSL
I won't comment this thread ;) - DAL
Does it count if I follow you on FF, but not twitter? - Keith Bourgoin
Spammers are everywhere though including here. - Brian Sullivan
@Doubledown_inSL Now that's funny. - Mike Dowden
Power is a double-edged sword, Robert...lol... can be tough to galvanize one's - Carol Lynn Martens
wow... think we could crash friendfeed with this thread? - Chip McComb
ROBERT! I sent you like 500 @ replies on twitter, wth aren't you replying? j/k - Justin Hopkins
I don't get it - Amelia Rangel
Do you want followers or slack-jawed lackys? - Mark Petzold
how many comments per minute will appear in average :D - Flavio
LOL @ Justin - Doubledown_inSL
Huh, what? Should I comment here? - Kandeezie
No one has to do anything anyone says/ - Paul Kinlan
let's see how 'stableizer' FF really runs *bumping up this thread *g* * - Ronald
No. I refuse to. But that doesn't make me useless. :-P - Ladybug Heather
show me a bridge - I'll jump after you! - BEX
FF is great, it just requires a higher level of interaction that many people don't have time for or interest in. - Stuart Tracte
new game: instead of "simon says" it is now "scoble says" - Chris Rogers
That's truth but I am one of the direcitons follower - Gent Thaqi
Just following instructions. - Larry Roth
Glad I caught this in my Twitter feed - I'd hate to be a bad directions-follower. - Shawn Farner
whatever you say - George Deane
^^ yeppers, i robot :D - Ronald
If you're happy and you follow (Scoble), clap your hands! - Carlos Granier-Phelps
I may of missed something, my bad.. - Sebastiaan van den Akker
Doh! Sorry, I clicked that link by accident - I'm in the 53%. As you were... - Andrew Jordan
Must do what Scoble says... Slow down comment box... forgot what this tread was about. - Drew S
/claps hands - George Deane
do what? - Mick
I agree that FF is better for tracking conversations, and hopefully @Twitter will get that. I still spend more time on Twitter - Matthew Scott Horbund
I follow directions but am often useless. Where do I fit? - Aaron Ball
53% your numbers are inaccurate. - Carlos Ayala
This should be interesting... - Robert Lee
YES O LORD AND MASTER, WHAT IS THY BIDDING :) - ftg888
wow, I'm not the only one who has no clue what's going on.. - Sebastiaan van den Akker
Grr... shouldn't have commented... Now I'll be getting IM updates forever!!!! - Carlos Granier-Phelps
I think this is just a psychology experiment... - Chip McComb
Commenting so as not to appear useless - Herb Hernandez
hahaha - Ronald
Carlos: lol - Larry Roth
what is actually ment by "directions"? - Clemsen
yes how is the number 53% found. - Daniel Graversen
as usual im in the minority (43%), Im never in the majority :( - George Deane
I hope you're wrong, Chip. Otherwise, you didn't see me here. - Shawn Farner
reporting for duty... - Todd Goldstein
baaaaah - mikepk
Scoble does have a lot of followers... - Sebastiaan van den Akker
I thought men were basically incapable of asking for directions, so why would they follow them? ;-) - Julie Bovee Hill
Robert, you are looking angry today. Take it easy, man! - Walter Lounsbery
d'oh! I meant 47% - George Deane
I am in building 44. Can you give me directions to 43? - David Connell
??? is this a test of the national broadcasting system? - Robert Wilkins
damn it scoble! get a real job! =) - Jonathan Crossland
Wow--never thought I'd wish for a "Don't Like" button or link, Robert! - Kathy Fitch
Robert's comments are very important particularly for political & development work. - Justin Long
Also important for business marketing. - Justin Long
U made me upset in first look then I realized what u mean and I found Im not not one of those. Hope you are not angry sir and wont fire me.. - Abhijeet Singh
I need a job like Scoble's... but in Miami. - Carlos Granier-Phelps
to comment or not to comment.... that is the question... - Kim
Are trending topics on friendfeed called "friending topics"? - Larry Roth
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT) What was the question again? - don manu
hehehe... nice trick - Gustavo Munoz from twhirl
Robert, I'm up to the CHALLENGE of not being "useless." Actually, my business communication students at SFSU just heard my initial remarks which included THREE RULES FOR SUCCESS in BUSINESS [and everything else!] The rules: LISTEN CAREFULLY, READ CAREFULLY and FOLLOW ALL DIRECTIONS! - Shari Weiss
i think this thread goes 'epic' on FF ;) - Ronald
Apathy is the big killer of networks. - Justin Long
I'm here. That makes me not useless, I guess? - Celia
Robert Wilkins: it is my test to see how many spammers, bots, or jerks are following me. - Robert Scoble
I get alot of spam about sites who gives you followers, whats the point of the followers have no interresting to give to you? And whats most crap is that they have enabled auto-follow back.. grrr :P don't sign up on those sites people.! - Qbat
I like the constantly refreshed list but it doesn't half distract me from my own comment! - Joshua Davidson
hahahahaha, ok.. now I get it - Sebastiaan van den Akker
I Welcome our FF Overlords! - Al Fuller
Does this mean that you expect there to be 45,120 comments here? - Andrew Pass
I like Viagra. - Paul Puri
a spammer... - Sebastiaan van den Akker
this is the only ff link of yours i followed. - moogs
You are usefull for us Robert =) - Qbat
I am getting a few new people to follow here, which is good! - Robert Scoble
Qbat aka Larsen: Agreed! - Larry Roth
I am not a bot! I am a free man! - Jeff Newfeld
Talking directions? - Sardar Mohkim Khan
i guess i've been lucky - i don't think i've seen any bots yet on FF (going now to check my short followers list) - Chris Rogers
Why do you think that people take the time to comment here? - Andrew Pass
This thread is like watching the real time web on steroids.I can't type fast enough to keep the comment box in view....yikes! - Dana Fosburgh
Robert - me too, thanks! :) - Susan Beebe
All you have to do is insult people and then they come :-) - George Deane
Notice how many of us follow when we are told we are not following. - Sandy McMerty
So, you're saying that people who don't use FF are spammers, bots or jerks ? - Djordje Lukic
So when you figure out how many there are, How are you going to auto filter them out? - Robert Wilkins
I read, I clicked, I arrived. I guess that means I'm not useless. - Mike
This comment intentionally left useless. - phil baumann
Seriously though let's not take the term 'followers' too literally. Just because I read a column doesn't mean I share the authors views. Just because you say lets discuss this on friendfeed doesn't mean I log onto FF and.......ah. OK....What is thy bidding?! - Joshua Davidson
You suck, man. I refuse to be a minion. Oh, wait... shit... - Joey Gibson
<Insert clever comment here.> - CAJ, somewhere else
Am I in the 53% or the 47%? - Tony Connor
What type of followers do you need Robert? Tell us and maybe we will try to be better. - Qbat
DeVries: oh, I understand. We need better notified control. - Robert Scoble
150th - Harscoat
Well, those who don't do what you tell them are actually more useful. No for you directly, but for the society. They mix your directions with their own to create new ones. - Kirill Petrovsky
Is this a roll call :) - Boon Kwee
i'm just commenting to hang with the cool kids - ukgrad98
^^ Nope 'happy hour' at Scoble's ;) ;) - Ronald
"Follower" is a weird term. "Watcher" may be better. Follower implies action and engagement, and anybody who's used social media for more than 20 minutes knows that just isn't true. - Jared Smith
Have I responded quick enough not to deemed useless. I feel a little baaaaa now. - Crispin Heath
Jared: bing! - Robert Scoble
So if you ever figure out how to deal with the bots and all the "I will teach you to make millions with Twitter" junk let us all know! - Marshall Huwe
you are talking about twitter, they would be useless but they are numbers and number always count. - Madhav Tripathi
If we need to use friendfeed to be useful, are there any clients or is it only the webinterface. - Daniel Graversen
Marshall: this is how. Bots and spammers don't get FriendFeed. - Robert Scoble
Daniel: what is wrong with the web? - Robert Scoble
inscribo ergo sum (I write therefore I am) - Jeff Newfeld
Nothing, just seem deficult to follow more threads. But that is probably not needed because the whole conversation is in once place. No need to multitask. - Daniel Graversen
is it just me or is the most used "plugin" on FriendFeed twitter? - Qbat
Actually, I find FriendFeed useless. I was reading an article about Twitter being useless, but the news get faster there. We'll have to say thanks to TwitScoop for that. - Dragos Pirvu
I never use FriendFeed. it just agregates all my other feeds into one feed. thats all :D - Zafarali
Dragos: wait until you compare search here to Twitter before calling it useless. Among other features. - Robert Scoble
No bot me, no. Count me out for that one. - Ton Zijp
dragos: all the news on Twitter is on FF, plus FF has better conversation - what do you think is missing? - Chris Rogers
FriendFeed enables comments on your tweets.! - Qbat
Robert Scoble: I think the proliferation of tools for Twitter let you slice and dice the data the way you want it and that is helpful to many. I do like the Web interface for FriendFeed, but imagine the possibilities that some cool tools could bring. No? - Larry Roth
So then we need someone in your vast network to write us a little app that will map the Twitter users who comment on FF and then block all the rest! Or at least create a "Real" Group in TweetDeck for me. - Marshall Huwe
You don't want followers, Robert—you want minions. I've got a few myself, and they're great. - Glen, Bespectacled Elder
ha! - Ned Baugh
there are SO MANY COMMENTS HERE - Zafarali
haha :) - Johnny from BuddyFeed
the best part is u can track em - Zafarali
Is this the way to San Jose? err ... I mean Friend Feed? - Tom Horn
Twitter should have a option that people who want's to follow you must write a small text for WHY you should let them follow you or the other way around - Qbat
Did you know that more than 90% of all statistics are made up? ;) - Tim Young
I'm getting tired of having to block the spam followers everyday. - Ron Hudson
Working on both FF and twitter - but FF is easier to follow comment threads - kathysd
What is interesting is I am already following most of the people who commented here which proves my point. - Robert Scoble
I was carefully looking at this list the other day http://spinn3r.com/rank... - turns out many people on it barely/if at all - use friendfeed. - Nir Ben Yona
Can you guys slow down - I can't keep up :( - Al Fuller
I think Twitter and FF provide different things and there is space on the internet for both :) - Tom Griffin
I've had friendfeed for quite a while, but I've not used it much, how do I expand this chat? - Ron Hudson
How does this post check for bots? - Amit Morson
Followers can not be useless. At least you can be proud of the sheer scale. And I believe, you don't want to have a conversation with thousands people at once. That would be truly useless. - Grigori Milov
I am here with you - I think it is that only half want to have a say. - Robert Freeze
On Twitter I talk strangers V on Friendfeed I am among friends - Asgeir
I'd like twitter to have a "report spam" button, this would avoid quite a lot of hassle... - don manu
Ron: just click on comments link under the topic - Qbat
ya like that! thanks. How do I do that? - Ron Hudson
Why is it important that followers comment & discuss U2, @Scobleizer? BC U R green? - Petter Griph
Amit: bots don't follow directions from people who are not their owners. No bots here. - Robert Scoble
FriendFeed should get a comment button under all the comments - Qbat
So, 47% will choose to do their own thing and not comment on here. Wait - what? Doh! And 65% won't read the comments that have already been made because there are already 'too many' :-D - Andy Bold
Qbat: click on the time under the post and open it in a new window - Robert Freeze
Andy: I'm in the 35% that read the comments. Didn't want my lame joke to be a REPEATED lame joke. :D - Tim Young
Robert Freeze: aaah.! Thank you =) - Qbat
Robert: unless perhaps the bot has directions to comment on every Scoble post? - Brian Sullivan
This reminds me of that "following directions" test from grade school. 1. Read all instructions before beginning. (2 -> N-1). Lots of crazy instructions which we all did. N. Don't do any of the previous instructions. Turn the page over, write your name, and wait. - Don Faulkner
Robert Freeze, that never worked for me - Amit Morson
Go watch Perez Hilton's video about being beaten up last night and going on techcrunch - Mark
time for a pint :-p - tony bland
Robert Freeze that worked. that should be labeled a bit better - Ron Hudson
Andy: I didn't tell you to read all the comments! :-) - Robert Scoble
If I reply here that I think it's less than 53% I may actually prove myself wrong. So be it. - Arnd Jan Gulmans
Should be a rewind and play button so you can play back all the comments.. like google wave - Qbat
Lots of users are already on the service but, under utilize it. Really still don't understand how powerful the service is or how to use the filtering system. - Eric Logan
And how many minutes/comments-in does the Scobalizer stop reading the comments? Opps, I just see that we are not supposed to "read" to comments...only discuss them. - Stephen Price
Thats cause they were busy seeing what I am doing!! LOL, your not the only person bossing people around. - T.S. Elliott
How big is the percentage of your followers that doesn't follow you? - Arnd Jan Gulmans
I love Friend Feed! - Robert Freeze
Click here for 101 ways to get rich ... Woooops, sorry wrong percentage group. - Chris Spencer
The reason I don't use friendfeed very much is because there is no SocialScope support on my blackberry. As soon as I can get a sweet blackberry app I'll be here more. - Ron Hudson
Now if I can just get my mom on here. http://www.building43.com/blogs... - Robert Freeze
I don't want to be in the wrong group. :P - Sheryl
Tim: I'm a 65%er :) Though I am now in the 13.9% that skim comments to see what's going on. And also in the 29.4% of people managing to find replies to their comments in the Scobleflow. Definitely in the 100% of people wanting a Comment link at the end of each conversation since I moved back to Safari. Oh, and also in the 100% of people who take conversations off topic while making up statistics. - Andy Bold
Done, in. - Thom Kennon
Tom Griffin, I saw that, and it's "usable" but it's nowhere near the elegance and simplicity of say UberTwitter,SocialScope, or TweetGenious. I use SocialScope. It is an absolute Killer app. - Ron Hudson
Do I get partial credit for skimming the comments? No? Sorry, master. - malackey
Cool, so, I'm in the 47%, 35%, 29.4%, 100% and 100% ranges! I'm all over the place. Thanks Scoble and Andy for helping me learn something new about myself. - Tim Young
I see the "224 more comments" bit on FF and know I don't need to add another comment. Erm... - Ian Betteridge
FFtogo doesn't auto-refresh - Ron Hudson
To follow or not to follow, or to passive follow versus have an active conversation? - Peter Simoons
More stats: 41% will miss Robert's reply to them in the reply flood, 26% will see it and not answer, 22% will have ADD (the tech curse) and already be doing something else, and 1% will see the reply and see it as an excuse to make up some more statistics. (And reply that I definitely have not read all the comments ;-) ) - Andy Bold
It's all about the user experience though - it's easier to comment to someone's question on Twitter by quickly clicking @ than click a link through to FF, faff about sizing the screen on the screen to wait for the comments to load, read them and then post, so yeah, I can see why many respond on Twitter than FF. I'm doing that more myself as currently very busy with work projects. This... more... - Sally Church
And, somewhere in the horde, somebody will belatedly realise that he somehow manages to fall into Robert Scoble's "useful" list. Darn it - will need to post more signal and less noise now! ;) - Andy Bold
I refuse to fall prey to this ruse, Robert. Oh...wait... ;) - Robert J Taylor
I added you to my Live acct weeks ago. No reply. - Bret
I'm too sleepy to read all this right now. - Daniel Zarick
clever early morning link-bait - Jake Ludington
nice one :) you should do an NHST on that hahaha - The Pageman
They should change that from "followers" to something like "watchers" or "subscribers". As in "I have a subscription to the Scoble lifestream." - Steve Lynch from twhirl
discuss (Would hate to be useless) - Charlie Anzman
So is this a casual social experiment to determine rough percentages of active/rabid users who like to engage/participate with those they follow? - Eden Hensley
I completely agree! Unfortunately I might be considered part of that 53%! The only reason I am responding is because someone else I follow re-tweeted it. I personally have over 5000 followers but only regularly interact with 50 or so. Isn't Social Media about conversation and being engaging? Hmmm...... - Robert Dominguez
Robert: Very interesting experiment, one should use there own judgment over there (twitter) regarding bots and spammers. - Eran Even-Kesef
@Scoble: I'm listening. What are you going to say, or what did I miss? - Jason Cronkhite from Alert Thingy
It is a direction. Anybody must walk all alone ... so, what is the point? - bishoph
same here, most people don't read - Michael Reese
Smile and wave boys, smile and wave:) - Rick Bucich
I too am tired of blocking spam followers on twitter... - W_B_K
great man!!no protect update.... and i just follow ..i 'd like be the unless fllower..lol~~ - HealingBrush
Not being a bot, I am compelled to follow directions. - Randall Fink
I am useless :-( - Andrew
Re blackberry access, try http://friendfeed.com/iPhone - it's supposed to look good on BB too - Andy Bold from email
Andy Bold, I played with iPhone page too, but it's just a pain to have to open the browser. The blackberry environment is all about easy simple communication. If I have to jump through hoops it breaks down. Not to mention a friend feed experience without push is not a friendfeed experience.\ - Ron Hudson
99% of your followers will not read the 250 comments proceeding this one, and I am one of those 99% - Steve C
That'll teach me for ignoring Twitter for a few minutes a couple of hours ago! Late as usual. - Graham Stewart
Hey, much better here! Twitter sux.... after getting locked out of @freddavis for months with NO reply from Twitter, even after you tweeted @ev and @biz (thanks!)... so I my new Twitter name is @fucktwtr ... but much better to use FriendFeed! - Fred Davis
I almost thought that you have a big ego. :) - Shuuro
followers are for cults. twitter should change to readers/reading, because at the end of the day this is all about reading - Jim Posner
Adding my opinion to the rollcall, though I've just realized that i actually have no opinion on this. - Chris Foley
Clever. :-) - Patrick Ward
To much noise, the good data is lost. - Adam Mesenbrink
Yes to much noice. Maybe a way to mark comments as good could be a way to filter the comments. - Daniel Graversen
Adam, I think that's a limitation with the threaded discussion model of FriendFeed - it becomes very, very difficult to follow a conversation once it goes beyond a hundred or so comments. Of course, Scoble will come up with a search filter which makes it easy in about three comments from now, just to prove I'm wrong... :) - Ian Betteridge
I didn't realize followers were supposed to do what their followees said. Does that mean I have to open those links to help me make money on twitter? I was just using it for communication. Silly me. - RobinDotNet
Robin: communication takes someone on the other side listening and talking back. - Robert Scoble
Useless to YOU, perhaps. I'll bet they are getting value from the info you rpovide. Social media doesn't have to be about communication, it can be about "transmitting information" or some other morer restrcitive definition of what goes on. Some people just like to listen! - Jim Tierney
Useful post :) - Krishnamoorthy
Agreed! There are those like me who sit in shadows, read and do not comment... oh wait, crap! - Danny F Santos
Talking back is definitely good, but I'm still not clicking on those links telling me I can make money on twitter. I do talk back to people (as evidenced here). :-) So you have a lot of followers who don't. Do they even tweet? Can anyone explain why people join twitter and don't tweet? - RobinDotNet
Jim: I'm not a broadcast, though. Are people who just consume really useful? - Robert Scoble
And BTW, if you don't realize the value your personal brand gets from having those 48,000 followers whether they reply back or not, you're missing something! - Jim Tierney
Robin: people are used to consuming info and not talking back. I understand that. Jim: there is some value in having lots of consumers, yes. I just aspire to more. - Robert Scoble
lucky you that non all of them have an active role in your FF... how can you think of have an interaction wth so many people? - Paolo Galli from IM
I think you math is waaaaaaaay off. Looks like somewhere around 0.3125%(300/96,000 - rounding up) of your followers are useful, meaning you should edit your comment to say 99.7% of your followers. Really makes me wonder the true value of twitter if one of the top uses gets this percentage of useful following. The other possibility is that as followers increase, the percentage of attentive/usefull/whatever-you-want-to-call-it decreases. - Robert D. Fraser
Paolo: I've had interactions with tens of thousands of people here on friendfeed, just not all at the same time. Robert: you're right. :-) - Robert Scoble
Do you think those non-tweeting-twitterers sit at their desk and read all the tweets coming across? Or are they looking for something specific. - RobinDotNet
Scoble: You are asking questions and experimenting with stuff that I find interesting. Just reading through this thread provides some interesting insights into users' perspectives on Twitter. - Matthew Schrock
Is that southeastweb thing from a bot or some kind? - RobinDotNet
Robin: I think it's a spammer. But at least it's a spammer that follows directions. That said I think I'm going to block it. - Robert Scoble
Blocked. - Robert Scoble
Scoble you really can do it? I'm very impressed :) I'm jocking... I think many users on the web just read information but doesn't partecipate... it's to difficult ;) - Paolo Galli from IM
97.2% of all statistics are made up. - Jason A. Nunnelley
Tekany: and the statistics that aren't made up can mislead. :-) - Robert Scoble
Seeing a spammer blocked just makes me feel warm all over. It's so awesome. - RobinDotNet
I am exceptionally useless. - Geoff Schultz
Geoff: that's why I follow you! :-) - Robert Scoble
Following instructions is way overrated - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
That's what I'll have on my next business card: Scoble found me useful, what about you ? - Antoine Bertier
RTFM or GTFO said the BOFH. - Jon Winters
I like threads like this. As well as pointing out who it may be useful for me to subscribe, that I haven't already, you get the occasional comment that allows you to increase your "People blocked" count by 100%... - Andy Bold from email
Although at this point I would welcome someone giving me instructions as to the next steps in life - far too many options. Maybe I should crowdsource it, but I am certain not to like the results - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Robert: To be honest, I think sometimes folks are intimidated by the breadth of knowledge that you and others on FF seem to have and your ability to engage in discussions. They may feel that they need to say something 'brilliant' or not say anything. I will admit that that I fell into that category up until recently. To your (and others') credit, once I took the plunge I found that this wasn't the case. You guys still know WAY more than I do, but that's one of the reasons I'm here - to learn! - Alex Hellstrom
@scobleizer you crack me up sometimes! There, see this post went to you in both places... But I don't really feel like discussing it... ;-P - Walt Ruppar
Walt: heh. - Robert Scoble
LOL! Great job of being satirical! You have a lot of great followers. :) - James Stratford
Just sayin I could follow directions and discuss here if I wanted, but not interested in this discussion. However it did make me laugh that you called 53% of your followers out on not being able to follow directions. - Walt Ruppar
Alex, uhm like totally and stuff ... and uhm. Ya know. Cool. - Jason Nunnelley
BTW: where'd you see my reply come in from first? FF or as a mention over on twiiter? - Walt Ruppar
Walt: here on friendfeed. - Robert Scoble
Robert, you dropped your twitter response button. Makes sense, but was it purely to reduce redundancy? - Jason Nunnelley
viewing people as "useful" is problematic..useful to who?..tools are "useful'...people not so much...helpful may be a more precise word. - Jim Posner
Jim, wordsmith! - Jason Nunnelley
.LOLz...great thread! - .LAG liked that
Twitter to me seems a big mess of information, I can't keep up with it! FF sorts the mess out nicely and without the spam. I much prefer FF. - Matthew Davis
Jim: you're right of course. I was just trying to be an egotistical bbbaaaahhhhssssttttaaaarrrrrdddd to get a conversation going. Jason: what did I drop? I didn't do it on purpose. - Robert Scoble
Damn it Robert, you got me to make an account here three days ago, what more can I do for you? ;-P - Shane Trammell
Robert, you are smart - Arvind
This is an easy way to get rid of bots. They don't have anything intelligent to share (like me)! - Carlton Prest
WTG sheeple for getting conned into commenting here... wait. um. - Scott Breakall
Robert, what if people want to reply and be engaging but don't feel like they have anything of value to say / to add to the discussion? - Wang Yip
Scott: Perhaps, but at least I un-liked it... - Walt Ruppar
Robert - what is the point of this? I took carrot... - Liza
Robert, I just put the lime in the coconut. Now what? - Sue Radd
Robert-Great discussion at 140, BTW. On another topic just watched the Perez Hilton video and trying to get my head around that rant..if you haven't seen it you should watch both sides of the feud with will.i.am. Interesting use of twitter and video to address insult/outrage. - Jim Posner
Sue, like it. - Liza
Yahoo Inbox: 178 messages. 132 are notifications of new comments here. Good job. :) - Tim Young
Ok now I "get" this FriendFeed experience. - Ron Hudson
lots of people commenting here--I wonder if it has to do with the time of day more than the topic - Brent R Jones
I have a fear of being useless. - Ron Wening
I hope I'm not within the 53% - Michela Cimnaghi /cimny
I follow Mr. Scoble, but I feel no particular obligation to be useful to him for anything. - Pat Rice from twhirl
Twitter rocks, but I'm starting to see more value in FriendFeed - Adam
I just drove from Pierre SD to Fort Totten ND, so I'm a little bit groggy. What exactly was I supposed to do to pass Robert Scoble's version of a Turing Test? Also, is it really important that people think I'm not a bot? I bet there is still money in AI. - Matthew McCowan
Is that percentage of useless followers greater or less on Twitter. (I think I can predict your answer!) - Curt Mercadante
"I would never want to belong to any club that would have someone like me for a member." - jacek
This thread is taking me a long time to read when I haven't had coffee yet today. - Jannifer @wordsforliving
So, my understanding is.. one who doesn't give 'directions' to his followers is useless too. Mmhhh! yeah - Thierry R. Andriamirado
Robert - there's nothing egotistical about it! I'd also be remiss if I didn't add that I get plenty of thought-provoking value from you even when in "read-only" mode. Understandably my usefulness to you is nil in those cases. However (and I'm echoing at least one other commenter here: IRONY ALERT) I've found that by the time I comment in this type of thread, my exact thoughts have... more... - Jim Tierney
I just hope Scobleizer never directs me to do something self-destructive. I hate it when that happens. - DGentry
I don't think lurker are useless :), I don't think number of followers have a great significance, Friendfeed is a Virtual Life Streaming, and in virtual life (as in real life) some people don't have a direction, they live (however i prefer LIVE with all capital letters, and have a direction!!!). - CantorJF
90% of community members lurk. - l0ckergn0me
Twitter has become useless for any sort of participation - Jorge Escobar
Really, you Are scaring - Eta from Nambu
here. - metalerik
Yay for the other 47%. - Colette
Does this post count as "discussing?" - Mark "Mr Bolivious" J
So if we post here, are we teacher's pets? :) - Daynah
Members of the "TV Generation" are just not used to follow directions... (they sit and consume with chips&beer and maybe do some shopping via telephone - these are a well trained habits and hard to change)... - Arne Krueger
I thought I'd contribute further to this discussion... you're welcome. - Mark "Mr Bolivious" J
I'm jumping up for another cup of tea, be right back... - Deborah E. Bifulco
There clearly comes a point of scale where FriendFeed fails to delivery clarity...nothing useful on the first screenful or last... does that mean that 47% of your followers are unable to provide significant value? - David Race
Will there be and end of this direction? Do we want to close directions? I think somewhen even directions become useless - Vedran Rudelj
delivering significant value to ff and/or the subscribers depends on the roi they get... some people are just not using it - as it is intendet to be used. so what!? - Arne Krueger
If technology fails you, next time you are in Memphis lets get together for lunch. Great value remains in human contact. - Jeff Milton
That is priceless - Keith - @tsudo
I am not a bot, I am huma ... wait, oh yeah, I am a bot .... never mind, back to being useless. - John
Bots are human too. - Thom Kennon
No one say anything useful, otherwise this will have meaning. - Liza from email
Liza: shhhh. Heheh. - Robert Scoble
I found this thread useful. - Mike Nencetti
Love these types of threads - quite enjoyable! - Jannifer @wordsforliving
Oh, yeah? - Baard @ Pixum
O Captain! My Captain! - Nicola Mattina
Commenting so I'm not included in the useless category... Also, I'd love to chat about this the next time you're around the FF office. - Ross Miller
There are 3 kinds of people in the world: 1. Those that follow Robert Scoble because he doesn't act like he's too good to talk to us. 2. Those that follow Robert Scoble because he is known to follow everyone back, and therefore he is good for "inflating" their follower count. 3. Those who have no idea why they are following Robert Scoble. - April Russo (app103)
4th type of person follows for great feeds that generate discussion on FF. - Mike Nencetti
April, you forgot the fourth category: 4. Those who don't subscribe to Robert Scoble but find far too many of his posts liked and commented by their friends. - Scott of Two Countries
But the only reason why Robert generates great discussions is because he is part of that discussion. He doesn't just drop & run, or only talk to people he thinks are "somebody", completely ignoring the rest of us. While he may have a big ego, it isn't so big that he thinks he's too good to have a real conversation with us. - April Russo (app103)
53%? That seems a generous estimate. - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Rob: I have almost 42,000 followers here and 96,000 followers on Twitter, which comes out to 43%. Glad someone caught me on my math! :-) - Robert Scoble
My casual research indicates about 1% will respond. - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
I can't put my finger on it, but I feel somehow manipulated...? - Mark "Mr Bolivious" J
even if they don't respond there is something to be said about passive observing- no? - michael sean wright
You call this a discussion? - Phil Boiarski
Phil: this is not a discussion. It's a lot of people following directions. :-) - Robert Scoble
Hi Robert, nice experiment! - Luis Enrique León
Aye aye Cap'n Scoble. Sorry I'm late but I just got done eating a plate of waffles in some diner in midtown NYC... - Aaron Strout
53% of your followers aren't followers in the sheep sense. That's a good thing. Lose the other 47% - C. K. Sample III
C. K. why must you self loathe on my thread? - Robert Scoble
I feel kind of funny. - Mike Nayyar
It's not easy being part of the 47% - Aidan Mann
I am not a sheep! Oh wait, maybe I am. - adam garrett
RS - The puppet master : ) - Mark Harai
I feel compelled to comment here... odd - Jan Ole Peek
Mark: who is the puppet master and who is the puppet? I'm answering you now. - Robert Scoble
Just following directions. Too many Mark's here though, I wish FF signed thing with our usernames. - manielse (Mark Nielsen)
You can change your display name any time by clicking on your name in the top right corner. - Mark
Robert: communication still occurs when unidirectional, surely the works of Socrates convey concepts to readers even today? - Mike Chelen
Wow! It wasn't till I finished reading through almost all the comments that I got what Robert was trying to say :) FF good, Twitter bad. But I can't complain since it was Leo Laportes constant references to FF that got me to join and Roberts comments that got me to try and really understand what FF is all about. Initially FF was a little overwhelming and the only reason I've stuck it through so far is because of the higher quality of content for a (mostly) passive FFer. - Anant Gairola
Writing that last comment took me 10 minutes! Really really wish there was a good FF iPhone application!!! - Anant Gairola
Anant: the content here keeps getting better as more and more people join (which is quite a few every week lately, my numbers are going up much faster here than on Twitter, the tides are starting to move). - Robert Scoble
baa baa - Kim Landwehr
I'm sorry... did you say something? - Sean
You have no Idea how tempting it is to reshare this - and discuss it over there >>>>>>>>>> - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
No rain, no rainbows.. - BryanSchuetz
FF is the only place I can dip into your content 'at will', Twitter is to noisy and makes me dig a lot further to see the flow of conversation and any associated references. - Threepwood
I like to lurk most of the time. I usually don't have much to add by the time I am able to read the whole thread. - Dan Douglass from Nambu
I'm with Dan (above). - Miss Elle from fftogo
Better late than never! - John Rubier
Testing the maximum for FF comments? :P - Barbara
Are you happy with how friendfeed is developing? What would you change, if you were in control? I love the daily digests, I prefer something filtering the best content from those I follow - Ryan Singer
first post... wait. - Aaron Baer
following........ - sirishkumar
amazing post. - Guy Vander Heyden
Suivez moi? - Gordon Joly
Oui, monsieur Gordon ! Où allons nous ? - Brome
<----- not a bot so what percent does that make me? - Howell Selburn from BuddyFeed
bleet bleet - Sriks7
Master is our friend! - Rick Cogley
Adding myself to the list :) - TiTi
Why a follower must follow direction? :) - Christine Yang from BuddyFeed
Lead, follow or whatever...Info on Neda http://tinyurl.com/nm9xdn - JoWazzoo
:) - Tony
This is a wicked and interesting post on FriendFeed =) - Qbat
by the way some of my twitter followers complain that, like you, I redirect them to friendfeed on every post there. Some say I have to choose between the two and they will follow me there, but not on both services. - Kostantinos Koukopoulos
Kostantinos: it's an open question how best to interconnect FF and Twitter. remember that there are a wide range of options, including sending comments or posts, and sending posts automatically or manually. the feedback from readers is helpful if it can be used to find the right balance - Mike Chelen
53% of your followers will leave you and then what? insult the other 47%. You can't just say it that way. You need to treat your followers with respect. Especially when you are your biggest fan. People will leave you in a heartbeat. - Jack Scalfani
Be a nice little follower, and drink the damn kool-aid! - James
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then it's the one i'm going to buy :) - Zio Bonino
Bret Taylor
"Web 2.0 was created so that people could publish cute photos of their cats. But this same cat dissemination technology has proved extremely helpful for activists, who’ve turned these tools to their own purposes." - Ethan Zuckerman (http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog...)
haha awesome quote. - Geoff Schultz
Nice. The Cute Cat Theory. From @EthanZ in 2007. Reading old blogs? Great find! - thinkQuick
I thought Web 2.0 was created to more efficiently deliver Porn - Bastard Operator From FF
Bizarre. I was under the impression Web 2.0 was created for people to publish cute (and not so cute) photos of themselves. :) - Mona Nomura
Web 2.0 was created *for cats* to publish cute photos of themselves. - Amit Patel
Heck, a cat can program a robot, why not? http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Paula W
: ) - "Twitter lets Robert Scoble tell me what he’s doing 200 freaking times a day… but it also lets me know whether Egyptian activists have been released from the police station when they go in for questioning." - Sarah Miller
Cat dissemination technology. LOL. :) - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Walt Ruppar
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"Most firms now recognize the importance of developing a powerful online brand. Now, an increasing number of professionals have started to recognize the benefits of developing a personal brand. Many people recognize that a personal online brand could be as important (possibly more so) than a company brand when looking to win a new client, get a conference speaking pitch approved or be asked for expert opinions from the media. Online reputation management has also become a very important aspect of recruiting. When investigating a person, the first place most people will go is Google. Rather than having a results page full of information about your unrelated namesakes, or neutral—or even worse, negative—listings about yourself, why not try to portray yourself in a positive light?" - Walt Ruppar from Bookmarklet
Robert Scoble
I think it is funny that we are arguing Macs vs Windows 7. Ahh, some things will never change. Been arguing this since 1984.
Windows 7 was available in 1984? [rimshot] - Akiva Moskovitz
Well actually their is no argument - Macs has no competition - just wannabes - - JanSimpson
another interesting thing is how much the two have converged since then. - Karim
These days, the OS is become increasingly less relevant which makes the old Mac vs. PC argument kind of quaint. - Akiva Moskovitz
I think Marc Andressen's 1996 comment about the browser making the OS irrelevant has come to pass to a great extent. I have a Mac for iPhone development and don't have any apps on there except what it came with (plus the iPhone SDK of course) and I'm happy on that for long periods. Don't even turn my PC on some days even though it's still my "main machine". - Richard Matthias
so true, if you are happy with your computer, then thats all that matters! - Calvin Ayre
That is an interesting question about what apps you use though. Do you have an account on Rescue Me or something similar that tracks your application usage? Maybe you just use Firefox and you can't tell the difference between the two operating systems? - Sam Pullara
Sam: I use Wakoopa so you can stalk my app usage there. - Robert Scoble
Akiva: Harsh! - John Fox
Atari ST-40 FTW! - Johnny Worthington
As Apple's market share continues to increase, we'll have new folks to help keep the fight fresh for some time, I'll wager! - Chris Foley
Let's argue concurrent CP/M vs. dos 1.x instead. - Richard pancakhaus Walker
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