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If that type of legislation passes then they also couldn't regulate electricity, water, gas, or any other type of utility if the private company that provides your utility deems it necessary. I don't think the libertarian in me can get behind this idea.
- xero
I don't think it follows that they couldnt regulate other utilities. Why not?
- Andrew Baron
Almost everything I access on the internet is paid for (commercials, banner ads, sponsorship, etc.). If I can turn on my tv and leave it on all day, why can't I do the same with my internet connection? I call BS on ATT, Comcast, and Time Warner.
- Eric Thompson
How about we ban government sponsored monopolies so what Verizon can provide fiber to me since Sprint/Embarq refuses to? And banning caps will raise prices or result in charge-by-MB because of the abusers.
- John Rubier
What is infuriating is that when I signed up for Comcast it was 'unlimited' and they unilaterally changed it to capped and they give you no tools for telling how much you have used by their meter. TWC/Comcast/whoever - no difference really in my eyes. When companies pull moves like that and then bring back the same product but with wildly different pricing they should expect backlash. The TWC pricing is particularly harsh for 1GB.
- chris tirpak
Here in Australia, our providers at least have decent online meters. By the same token, it's not like we have a truly "unlimited" plan on data yet. And you'd be surprised at what our MAIN provider charges for a measly 150mb for mobile phones per month. Once we go over a certain amount, the providers all charge you the excess.
- George Hall (Australia)
A good percentage of people are trying to get Internet service considered a utility and thus regulated like all the others (supposedly for the good of the people). I don't see how legislation to ban the idea of maximum usage by a single customer is good for the people. Just like electricity (which is required for inet svc), if one or more people are using too much the providers can lower or stop flow to them to maintain a certain level of svc to other customers.
- xero
Caps will utterly destroy any hope of IPTV taking off any more than it already has.
- Josh Haley
If a provider can not provide enough to everyone by need, then those with higher needs will move on to another provider that can provide them with enough. If there is not a provider for them then they will find another route such as acquiring the utility independently or complaining until the service exists. While the lack of caps will be good to the consumer and tech in the short term, it could easily hurt business expansion due to a handful of abusers.
- xero
I think it is up to the consumer to demand a certain level of service and transparency from their service providers. In the US, we've let them walk over us for years now. AT&T only functions through abuse of its customers via price gouging and faulty billing. If an ethical business had its self-defeating internal structure, it would have collapsed years ago.
- xero
@xero, so let me see if I follow. We have crappy broadband now. You support the telcos in their plan to make broadband crappier. That much I get. And the reason you support them -- now this is the tricky part -- is because if we don't allow them to make it even crappier now, it will hurt business expansion and.....become so crappy it'll be worse than nothing? Or would there be a black hole that would consume the universe? I'm not following your line of thought.
- j1m
I don't support them in making it crappier. We have crappy broadband because the public hasn't outright demanded better broadband, sure a handful of us have, but the vast majority just take what they can get. It's getting better in tech-heavy areas, but it's rolling out slow. I just don't see the need for random govt intervention in a system it doesn't technically regulate at the moment. It must first adopt it as a strategic utility before it can start making tactical regulations.
- xero
Caps are a viable route to maximizing the current infrastructure while gathering capital for expanding and upgrading that infrastructure. If there is any legislation on ISPs it should be for transparency in terms and truth in advertising. The implementation of new technology and hardware and the promotion of a more competitive market should be guided by the govt for the good of the consumer, but not forced.
- xero
If the market is not ready to switch/upgrade and the govt forces them to, then they will have to change practices so they can make the money to do what the govt told them. The companies have limited funds, limited time, currently limited unused capacity, and limited proven tech. To get to the goal they need to change the things they can, such as package offerings, pricing, special billing, and available/maximum bandwidth to each customer.
- xero
If the regulation just says, "you can't limit the usage for a customer" then the company response will be "ok, then prices will go up to pay for our sudden surge of unplanned infrastructure". Then prices never come back down because consumers get used to paying the outrageous price and no regulation/market stepped in to promote competition, especially now that the entry bar is that much higher.
- xero
But to note re: the actual legislation: it's not about caps, it's about tiering like other utilities. And Time Warner is trying to do it at ridiculously low levels as are other companies. I think that provided the companies are truthful and transparent about what their costs really are to expand/provide service then it might be a viable solution, but according to what I've seen of the proposed rates and plans, they're just being greedy in true teleco fashion.
- xero
All that being said, there is a really strong argument that due to the unique nature of the Internet, no subscriber should have access limited or billed per usage. Only speeds should be tiered, with a regulated minimum speed. It is a great tool to enable the less fortunate or less educated by offering unlimited information. Penalizing those that could benefit from it the most by forcing useless speeds or data limits at low rates would lessen their ability to better self. Tradeoff would be slower coverage
- xero
As an ex-state congressman from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, here is my opinion: typically the government should not interfere in the private bsector, specially because in the future they could charge for the gig and not for the speed, BUT in this case, at least in Brazil, there are only 2 internet companies, and there is no way to create a competitive service (only with satellite), so there is space for STATE law to ban download caps. If I was still in Congress, I would vote for the ban.
- Kiko Cherman
"Just for comparison's sake. It feels a little wrong to file this under “badass,” and yet I'm still not to a point where I can take this pirate thing seriously."
- Jason Toney
from Bookmarklet
Black people are biased against pirates.
- B. Hatin
Unless They are the Raiders of Oakland.
- Jason Toney
The Marine Corps was essentially born to kill pirates. Add the presidents who oversaw the Barbary Wars, and Obama still ranks with the B-Team. Of course, that could change with a single phone call.
- Chris Baskind
Someone on the original article noted that Thomas Jefferson probably has about 800 pirates notched on his kill list.
- Jason Toney
Mike, if you had announced this yesterday, I could have take pictures of the pastrami omelet my son ate. Guess we'll have to go back for another. :)
- Ha3rvey (obviously wrong)
Derrick, you're killing me over here. [cries]
- Anika
Yeah, I thought Derrick was cool...but now I know the truth.
- Alex Scoble
As long as we're talking cured meats: you gotta try duck prosciutto. You can make it at home, and the taste is simply phenomenal. ( http://blog.ruhlman.com/ruhlman... )
- Andrew C
Prrrrrrraa! prrrrrrraa! prrrra! Hard. Core.
- Chris Nixon
I can't believe nobody noticed. You gotta be hardcore cause "Palmolive softens hands while you do dishes." Only the best when you keepin it real.
- Rob Diana
Yeah, this is VERY useful on the side of the fridge. I had it up in my old place and used it often.
- Lisa L. Seifert
I need to put this on my fridge; I am terrible at knowing when stuff goes bad
- Aaron Krug
FOR THE LAST TIME! Mayonnaise = MIRACLE WHIP! THEY ARE THE EXACT SAME THING!
- Michael Forian
I am SO with you, Aaron. I just go by sight / smell. Worst case scenario - I get the runs. Boo Hoo. be back later ppl, I'm actually working today, wow.
- Mona Nomura
Fantastic colors... You find the best stuff Mona!
- Mitchell Tsai
um michael, no, they're not really... they taste different. maybe it's just the flavoring. check the ingredients. mayonnaise is eggy, miracle whip is sweeter
- Kamilah Gill
Michael Forian: BITE YOUR TONGUE! Miracle Whip has that zesty thing going on. Nasty. :-| REAL MAYO = deliciousness and all things good.
- Lisa L. Seifert
Aaron, I have another list on my fridge already of when things go bad. I found that years ago. not as fancy as this, and it's for all foods, not just sauces.
- Kamilah Gill
Thanks, Kamilah! Anyone wanna' make it purty?
- Lisa L. Seifert
Good to know that special sauce lasts 2 months...
- John Ford
Mayo is NOT EQUAL TO MIRACLE WHIP!!! (I gather caps are needed to join that particular discussion). Miracle Whip has a lot more sugar in it. And, sorry, it is vomitus. Love the chart, Mona. Where oh where do you find this stuff?
- Laura Norvig
Careful with that syntax, Laura! I believe you meant to yell, "MIRACLE WHIP IS NOT EQUAL TO MAYO!" ;-)
- Lisa L. Seifert
Nice--that's a pretty funny chart. Now that's creativity!
- Dave Saunders
from twhirl
I protest! Vegimite lasts longer than 2 months1
- Glenn Slaven
Keep 'em comin' Mona ... my nightly upper. This is GREAT!
- Charlie Anzman
Charlie - are you on Seesmic, too? @Ceci: Cool Whip?
- Mona Nomura
Mona - I have a Seesmic account and it's on this week's to do list! (Maybe I'll comb my hair this time .... maybe :)
- Charlie Anzman
Cool! 8 months for honey? Don't they last forever? :D
- Ron
Of course it does, Ron. Just ask the archaeologists who find it...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Rochelle: Here's a larger color version [Robert Anton Wilson, MIT - 8/1/06] http://web.mit.edu/dryfoo... which was produced from the BW version (much more boring) http://backtable.org/~blade... It appeared in a mock calendar diary for 1997 and was produced by Potlatch (the paper company) under the title "365 Ben Days." The concept and design was by Dana Arnett, Ken Fox, Fletcher Martin and John Naresky of VSA Partners, Chicago.
- Mitchell Tsai
What don't more people adopt RSS? It is so clean and efficient and yet even geek friends seem clueless. I reduced my emails by about 80% by using RSS and I keep up with sites that I would have never revisited again. What's wrong with RSS?
Some publishers think they may loose ad revenue. I personally feel ok if they add ads to full feeds. But partial feeds plus ads is a definite NO for me.
- Sudar
Yep... lack of understanding is definitely an issue... and lack of awareness by the general public...
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
from twhirl
And I say... why don't more people adopt Atom?
- Jake (aka Jawee)
I've tried to get my dad to use RSS unsuccessfully, and he's a software developer! I think he feels like if he subscribed to it, he has a duty to read it all. I read probably 5% of the stuff that comes through my reader, and he doesn't get that at all. He figures if he would never revisit the site again, he doesn't need to keep up with it. It's a different relationship to noise, I think.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
I get way too much email as it is... I don't know what I would do if I had to get all my information via email. I think that people just don't get it. They don't get what RSS is all about. On one of my blogs I have 3 times as many people subscribe via email than RSS... makes no sene.
- Corey Smith
I'd prefer Atom, or that people use the term 'feed' if they mean something more generic.
- Michael C. Harris
I agree with faithx5 -- my manager asked me to set up some RSS feeds for her in Google Reader two weeks ago and she has opened the reader only twice since then. Why? Because it feels like an obligation, much like e-mail, to have to wade through all of that material, comprehend it and feel like you gained something from it. She probably doesn't feel like she's missing out on something. I, on the other hand, couldn't survive a day without my feeds. For me, it's become more of a need than a want.
- Mansi Bhatia
So RSS is the 2nd coming but it has an image problem. How do we fix that? Or can we?
- Keith - @tsudo
There's nothing wrong with RSS itself. It just hasn't become part of the web workflow for lots of people. I still think it still has potential, allthough not in a Google Reader kind of way. Maybe it will require smart, personalized filtering connected to RSS feeds? Sorta like "Last week you read these items and watched these videos. Based on that we think you will probably like these news articles/Youtube videos."?
- roel
You can also do that "?" in Google Reader (if you use it)
- AJ Batac
Thank you Paul! (I undo more than I do ....)
- Charlie Anzman
thinking, whether its technically possible to more undo than doing! :)
- Jigar Mehta
Still waiting on the "unsend" feature....
- Alex Cook
Charlie captured my editing style pretty well also. It is possible, at least by my count. Type something, undo it, type it again, undo it, retype it and then actually send/post/submit/publish it. You've really only *done* it once, and undone something else twice. See? :)
- Todd McKinney
cool! Does that mean I can UNSEND a message now? I keep waiting for them to add that...
- Tim Hoeck
I wish. Unsend would probably be my top feature request at this point. It's a little tricky, but definitely doable (requires a small delivery delay obviously, but an extra 15 seconds is not big deal for email).
- Paul Buchheit
totally agree on unsend. holy shit that feature would have saved me from alienating most of my friends (i think... sniff.... yeah, its not the BO)
- tommy payne
Even I would wish for outlook/exchange-like 'Recall' feature for google based domains (gmail and google apps).. I love it when I use it from outlook.. :)
- Jigar Mehta
@Jigar You realize that "recall" feature does absolutely nothing except say "this person wishes to recall the message blah." You can't unsend an email unless you're sending to people in a controlled environment.
- EricaJoy
wishlist: 'd' to delete instead of '# 'since I used it the most :( On mobile 'd' is used for delete but not on the desktop..why?
- Yeong-Ping Koh
I can't say for sure... but I can guess: we wanted to make it harder so you didn't accidentally do it (hitting # requires two keys) and d = delete doesn't internationalize well.
- Michael Leggett
That's exactly right. Delete and Report Spam are "severe" operations, so the shortcuts are # and !.
- Paul Buchheit
This is the coolest image search service I've seen. They are giving me free accounts for FriendFeed'ers. Use this link to try it out: http://tineye.com/registe...
- Robert Scoble
Really? Surprised that Scobleizer *just* found this.
- Ivan Stegic
I like the idea of new media search tools, especially in images and video. I love hearing people answer how they plan on making money, it very often seems to be a touchy issue.
- Jeremy Campbell
from twhirl
Ivan: they were too. Hey, I don't always see EVERYTHING. :-)
- Robert Scoble
TinEye is really really REALLY cool. There's a huge potential there -- can't wait till the index more of the web.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
seems like a very cool tool. haven't found anything good enough to mark as "cool" but it's fun to see what comes back
- Steve Long
Yeah, it's a really awesome tool... I bet it's hard to see a gem amongst the rough sometimes, Robert. Especially when you are wading through as much electronic waste as I am sure you are. Whew!
- Ivan Stegic
Scobleizer: Man, everytime I look at that pic of you, I think of the Ghostbusters. Here's a search I just did on *that* pic, you really are omnipresent: http://tineye.com/search...
- Ivan Stegic
Nice! Thanks for getting FriendFeed the hookup, Robert.
- Phil G
Also a big thanks from me for the invitation! Up to now I wasn't too impressed with image searching...
- Arnd Gronenberg
Looks like a great service..thanks for the hookup..
- Darryl
I've been using them for more than a month now, they really do amazing stuff.
- Yuval Atzmon
Scoble would have known about Tinyeye a lot sooner had FriendFeed been around sooner :) Glad you found them though. They have really good potential to be very powerful and useful.
- Justin Korn
A very cool tool indeed, especially if you need to keep track of where images are going around the Web...
- Chris Reed
I just registered. This is a really neat tool!
- Candace
Great! Thanks...trying Star Trek matches
- Kevin Benson
I just tested Tineye to find an art print I've been looking for. I actually found it. This print is dated to the 90's and has been discontinued for years. I was pretty happy to find what I was looking for.
- Candace
Yeah tried this out a while back, should be awesome in the long run. @Ivan, that's hilarious about the fact that you think Scoble looks like a Ghostbuster...i've been trying to figure out what it was he reminded me of for ages! And you're spot on! :)
- Zee.
I would like to see them succeed. While I find the FF deluge very nice and useful, twitter is just so danged easy, and it's a bit easier to keep up with the people you really want to. Now, if FF implements something to accomodate that....hmmmm...
- Joel Gray
from twhirl
In the meantime, @replies that don't start at the beginning of a line and @replies via SMS are also down
- Jesse Stay
Please, spare me the thought of another Google Search Deal!!!!!! :)
- Roberto Bonini
LOL Roberto. It was more than Amazon really needs to improve their UI, and recommendations is part of it. They are part of a group of 1.0 companies doing well, but still looking much the same as they did 10 years ago. Zoomii got me thinking about it, and then shopping on the site really set me off. I can figure out how to find more books by the same author myself. ;)
- Cyndy
Is this from the You Suck at Photoshop guys?
- Vince DeGeorge
donnie is back today, maybe the competition made him show up again
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
"what email?" "you just powered off the exchange server" "just the letter a" "don't use aol" "salesforce.com was on the right testicle"
- Ranjit Mathoda
That was a good use of ten minutes. I'm smiling again.
- Russellreno
Ok, after watching the new YSAP - This is much much better - flavor of the week to be sure.
- Vince DeGeorge
I'm crying. The details in this were just great. I don't work in IT but I know this is what people must put you folks through...
- Kamilah Gill
that's brilliant. and i'm about ti run out of battery power here, and I won't bookmark, adn I'll probably 4get about these guys 4eva. what a shame!!!
- john conroy
You mean he rebooted the webserver without submitting a Change Request Application with work procedure and rollback steps to the Change Advisory Board for review at their next weekly meeting? ;-)
- Stuart Woodward
:)) I was getting very frustrated with FF's best of the day page, showing mostly meta-links about FF itself all the time. And then this. Once in a while, there is one single link that makes all these page loads worth it :)
- Yaniv Golan
LMAO for most of the 10 min. Will fwd to several IT peeps I know...and maybe a few peeps at Twitter. Wonder if they'll think it's funny.
- Cathryn Hrudicka
The realism of this thing is just awe-inspiring. That techie behave pretty much like any techie I've ever encountered who's been asked to do a stupid task. And the sales dude is lethally real too. This is Dilbert meets The Office on steroids. Thanks for the link.
- Roy Blumenthal
from twhirl