I like having each service as an individual contact. Much easier. Can we see the same for Pownce?
- Chris Nixon
Well, IMified has taken bot to a next level.. I even created a customized option to check my google calendar appointments for today (a quick schedule for today) by interacting with bot! Not sure, if they have one for Pownce..
- Jigar Mehta
from bTT
One year later. Just bumping this because it's the one year anniversary of the only item on FriendFeed to get more than 400 likes. (452 at the moment)
- Ken Sheppardson
I'm using TweetDeck too. I wonder how Twhirl will respond. Loic Le Meur, in a video with me, said that they are completely rebuilding Twhirl to be a better client than TweetDeck is. One thing I noticed is that TweetDeck makes my system really slow and sometimes hangs my system. If that continues I'll have to give it up or just use it on a second system.
- Robert Scoble
While they're at it, I suggest they add some following/followers management, like sorting, batch follow/unfollow, one-page lists etc.
- Alexandros Georgiadis
I'm switching to Tweetdeck TODAY. Guess I'll see if i like it better than Twhirl.
- Jennifer Windrum
Loved twhirl, and still keep it installed, but rarely use it anymore. I use iTweet.net in a browser, PockeTwit on my Mogul, and Tweetdeck on the desktop. iPhone, I'm still dabbling; I don't use an iPhone very often, and rarely for Twitter. Tweetdeck for Friendfeed is something I requested quite some time ago, and was told way-back-when that it was in the works...can't wait.
- abacab
from fftogo
I experimented with Tweetdeck, Twhirl and Google Reader side by side for a few days for monitoring Twitter feeds, and GR was the clear winner for me. The cleaner, more minimal and more functional the interface, the better. And with GR I can manage all my feeds from all sources under one program.
- Sean McBride
Love Tweetdeck for when I monitor / really participate in Twitter. Though for idle tweeting / replying, the sidebar in Zenbe is perfect.
- Matt Harwood
This is one version I especially can't wait for. ;-)
- Jesse Stay
I can't wait for tomorrow! I stopped using the TwitKit extension for Firefox when I realized how incredibly useful TweetDeck is. (Which saved up the sidebar for FF in real-time, heh.)
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
I find mac's expose/spaces an indispensable tool for managing screen real estate hogs like tweetdeck. don't know how pc users live without it. Have tried others but keep returning to tweetdeck for it's clean, consolidated view of multiple aspects of twittering. Will have to try in GR.
- Mike Elliott
Mike - I find that I can scan much more information in GR than in Tweetdeck. I am curious if your experience differs.
- Sean McBride
Sean, I don't see Google Reader and TweetDeck as competitors at all.
- Louis Gray
The simple fact: Tweetdeck uses a single monolithic window to store everything. If you don't have that contiguous space available on your screen then it won't work for you. The *ahem* beauty of Twhirl is that each window is a self-contained movable palette and you can move them anywhere and arrange as you like, depending on your screen real estate.
- Glenn Batuyong
Glenn, while true I found the multiple windows to be confusing. If you're on a dual monitor mac set up where you can have set apps follow you through spaces it's doable but personal preference I think.
- Mike Elliott
Sean, I'm a heavy GR user and I'm always trying to consolidate. When I tried to pull RSS feed for all updates it kept giving me the wrong feed. I was able to import my @replies and DMs but I would obviously need all the updates to be usable. And then there's the issue of jumping to a different screen for tweeting. How do you resolve the going back and forth?
- Mike Elliott
one obvious limitation of tweetdeck is the "rate limit exceeded". I'm not a heavy twitterer by any means but doing a few simple searches brings up this error a little too often
- Mike Elliott
@Mike Somehow I got the feeling that's always been a problem on Twitter's end; they're the ones that limit how many times you can hit the API in an hour, aren't they?
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Rate limit exceeded is a Twitter issue.
- Louis Gray
Need multiple account support. That's a deal-killer for me.
- Jeff Ventura
Yes, Twhirl can do multiple accounts for multiple services and you can monitor all of them... I would probably consider TweetDeck if they could offer a single column with multiple row view. Most monitors are wide so you can afford to stack app windows side by side, not one above another.
- Glenn Batuyong
I can't wait to get my hands on the newest version. I just started using Tweetdeck last Saturday and although I'm not a power user I love it. Some of these features sound really awesome and should make Tweetdeck much better then it already is.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Chris & Louis - That is some Twitter ignorance on my part. Good to know though.
- Mike Elliott
Louis - I see Twitter and Friendfeed as collections of feeds, which I store in Twitter and Friendfeed folders in GR. Under my Twitter folder, I can quickly scan my Twitter feeds, see the number of new posts to feeds, and then click on particular feeds (say, Tim O'Reilly or a Semantic Web search feed) to quickly scan new posts. One click on a post takes me to the original site. When done...
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- Sean McBride
Louis - at the moment I have 540 unread items under my Semantic Web search feed under my Twitter folder in Google Reader. Scanning and processing those items under TweetDeck would be quite a chore.
- Sean McBride
I never see all the tweets during a day. I don't even try to go back and go through them. I just get the ones that I can and move on.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Mathew - if I didn't make an effort to prioritize the information that is flowing through my mental space, I would feel like I am wasting my time. I want to focus on the most important information, not on a random chaotic flow of what is often trivia.
- Sean McBride
@Sean- did I read correctly that you have a RSS feed for all of your tweet's? If so, how do you manage that?
- Amani
Amani: to subscribe to Twitter feeds in Google Reader (or any other reader) just go to the home page of the tweeter in question (like http://twitter.com/timoreilly) and click on the RSS/Atom icon at the right side of the address bar (in Firefox, at least).
- Sean McBride
@abacab where do I find PockeTwi?. I am so sick of ceTwit
- Thomas Ho
Wow....Bottom line; YES that is a TON of time, but you wisely defended it as you're migrating your "content" here on FF, generating more buzz for your blog and engage way more people. I, of course, am biased cuz I need "intervention" too. I was going to launch a "blog" but found that FF became my blog for short term writing / sharing needs. I still plan to launch a blog in 2009, but am planning that out
- Susan Beebe
Ask him when he's taking up @guykawasaki on his absence from Twitter for a week bet
- Jesse Stay
I would like to see more of you doing short video responses via QIK than reading. Seeing you is much more interesting that reading, and it makes you much more "real". You can SAY more with an INFLECTION in your voice than a paragraph of words.
- Ari Burton
I think another gain would be the broadening range of topics you are able to cover in dynamic discussion versus a static (by comparison), drawn out blog. Twitter is to blogs what the Internet was to newspapers.
- Jim W
Hello, my name is Alan and I'm addicted to Twitter :-)
- Alan Kodzasov
I think you should do it all. Blog, tweet, and 'feed. What the split should be? I dunno.
- Eric Florenzano
your realtime funnel of friends is impressive
- Genaro Bardy
We have Scoble and YOU CAN'T HAVE HIM BACK! :P LOL
- Ari Burton
you're saying you chave 68000 people you can show potential sponsors. Did you ever ?
- Genaro Bardy
What are there 40,000 BOTS answering Scoble? LOL :)
- Ari Burton
Michael, you're funny. Genaro: I haven't been asked by my current sponsors yet, but they can look at all the people I'm interacting with on FriendFeed to get a good sense of who is here and on Twitter you can see all of my followers. Same on Facebook. So, sponsors generally have a pretty good idea of what kind of people I'll reach.
- Robert Scoble
Robert you are doing a fantastic job pioneering new apps and showing us all the way, keep going and ignore the criticism. You are practising being a Thought Leader without the need to blog too.
- Thomas Power
What you have done is balanced out your activity between Twitter, FriendFeed, Blogging, Videos, etc. Others who would prefer you stay siloed don't like that you've diversified. Why close the door on a significant audience, like one here, to maintain an old one?
- Louis Gray
What?!? You blogged your response? You're falling right into his hands.
- Christian Anderson
Robert and Michael, call me paranoid but I bet you guys both organized this rant & rave together to raise some valid questions about the changing nature of the social web. I think there's a place for focused writing of blogs but I can't help thinking Robert's experiment of jumping into the fray is both bold and worthwhile. It could easily be said that M's clinging to the old for reasons like thought leadership could possibly put him in a position of being obsolete very quickly. Love both of you!
- Lance Shields
I wanted to agree with this post but Ari's comments are making me laugh too much.
- james rock
Michael, I think Robert mainly gets input from his readers. That said, advice is also good for grown ups
- Alexandros Georgiadis
I like michael´s funny comments here. I never bothered reading anything else but the headlines from TC before but now I may take a closer look (get it, michael..? ;)
- Thomas Bøhm
This reminds me of the ladies who cried fowl when computers came along..."Noooo don't take my Smith-Corona away!"
- Susan Beebe
I don't have a Tech Crunch comment account so I am pasting this here. In response to Susan Beebe, Michael Arrington stated: "and the “conversation” is fine. But Robert’s brain is better used actually writing articles that I want to read. Watching people grunt back and forth is entertaining but hardly educational." My response: "Rude."
- Mona Nomura
If you were just a regular guy with a regular job OK, it may be a little much. But..you're a leader in this business and trying to keep us informed. Frankly, I'm a big fan, and feel like I would be missing out if you contributed less.
- Missionary Broadcasting
Thought Leader = Adopting Today What Others Will Be Doing Tomorrow = Robert Scoble
- Joe Lima
Mike makes good points and he does it out of respect for Robert. These are two of the hardest working guys I've come across. Mike sees the value he is building at TechCrunch and sees the value Robert is building for Twitted/FriendFeed. As far as I know, Robert doesn't get anything for that. I don't agree that Robert's time is not well spent, but can definitely see Mike's point.
- Christian Anderson
"S**gate" getting a mention here from Robert every time there´s talk of storage is better promotion than plain ads on his blog. They should be happy about that, and I´m sure pay him equally well for that.
- Thomas Bøhm
Yeah, I agree with Christian that M has good points and I think this debate is very good to consider. How do we spend our time? What is truly valuable? Is Robert poorer than he used to be? ;-)
- Lance Shields
Your audience is more qualified than any else... That's interesting. No Media can link to facebook / twitter / ff accounts to give insights about its audience ! That's Power my friend
- Genaro Bardy
Hey Robert! I hate to say this but I kinda agree with Michael on this one. I use to read you blog every day. I loved how insightful your post were. I could tell that you put a great deal of thought into your blog, and in turn, your blog provoked me to think. I like following you on friendfeed, but it is just not as thought-provoking. I have also started visiting your blog less because there is just not as much there.
- Craig Fogle
I think Robert's brand is portable enough that he can survive outside of his own domain. At the end of the day, it's about engaging people through whatever means possible, whether that's your blog or FriendFeed, Twitter etc. For what it's worth, I had never read Robert's blog before I used FriendFeed. In some respects there's probably an element of Michael using Robert's popularity to drive a bit of traffic his way. Looks like it worked too.
- Sam
Mike hasen’t noticed your videos, does that tell us more about Mike or your videos?
- paul mooney
How about spending time where it matters to you? Maybe Mike should spend less time worrying where others spend their time. It's your time, spend it where you want.
- Brett Nordquist
Your post a while back on *real* productivity, helped me a lot and I feel answers this already. Outside of your family what you want to do more than anything else is have lots of great conversations with people. FF enables you to do this more than your blog can. So by that standard you don't need an intervention - you're possibly the most productive person on the planet! :)
- Matthew J Hendrickse
How do I sign up for this rehab thing? seems like all the "cool" people are doing it.
- Bob Blunk
Honestly, I believe all these services should be merged somehow... Maybe if Friendfeed allowed for longer posts (although then it wouldn't be microblogging, but isn't Twitter for that?) people would start to move here. FF is a very young service yet: let's see how it expands and then we'll be able to choose between FF and traditional blogs.
- Jordi Soler
Honestly, I feel that half the time I spend on Friendfeed could be more productively spent elsewhere. It *is* addictive, and you don't want to miss out on anything, but I've spent hours there without much to show for it. On the other hand, there are times where it's sheer genius to have that much input.
- Mistletoe Glen
Once nanoblogging and picoblogging catch fire, this microblogging will seem tedious and time-consuming. Last Thursday, at 10 AM, I picoblogged an entire week of bloggage. Took about ten minutes.
- david beckwith
Wow David, that's maybe the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
- Geoffrey Hamilton
from twhirl
Second, I couldn't build a feed out of a search on FriendFeed, so I can't shove all FriendFeed items that mention Scoble in here.
- Robert Scoble
Ah, you're trying to emulate Track. Need new software with features optimized for that purpose.
- Michael Krigsman
With your influence, I'm sure FF would add it if you asked.
- Aaron Eaton
Third, it's not real time. Yes, the FriendFeed option for real time is there, but it isn't feeding me items in real time because it relies on RSS, not on XMPP or SUP.
- Robert Scoble
Are you trying to now show examples of Track so people will understand how it can be used?
- Michael Krigsman
This is a cool idea :) I just might do my own ego feed! :D
- Michael Forian
I took the RSS feed of the summize search and made it an imaginary friend. It works great for "tracking" but replying isn't easy.
- Paul Reynolds
Michael: yeah. I think the real time web will totally take off if we have the ability to see stuff like this in real time and displayed properly. This doesn't look very good because everything has the same icon. Totally not very nice like the rest of FriendFeed.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, what is your internal criteria as to when to FF comment or tweet?
- Leif Hansen
Completely out of context, I may mark "I tried setting up an ego feed, but it's unsatisfying" as my favorite quote so far today. *wink
- Leslie Poston
Leif: the two are separate and have different audiences. I don't know that I've figured it out yet. Sometimes I feel like Twittering. Sometimes I feel like FriendFeeding. Or, in this case, I wanted to hit both at once (all my top-level FriendFeed items go to Twitter, too).
- Robert Scoble
Michael: a business example would be easy. But if it doesn't work for ego feeds, it won't work for business uses.
- Robert Scoble
feeding the ego is always unsatisfying because ego is insatiable.
- Laura Norvig
This sounds like a good idea, Robert! :-)
- Louis Gray
Makes me wonder if FF has any sort of loop detection. It's theoretically possible to feed into a room, take the room feed, send it elsewhere and then back into FF again...
- Jauder Ho
Louis: it should be a good idea because it was hatched in your house yesterday! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Glad to see you tackling this. Monitoring brands, even if you are the brand, is getting more and more important. To do that we need easy, effective search but the tools are seriously lacking. Keep us posted on how you manage this. For Twitter search I find the standard search engine lacking and prefer to use Dawn Foster's Yahoo Pipe mashup - http://bit.ly/218TY7
- JMaultasch
people calling themselves brands. the egos get bigger and bigger...
- Terry O'Fee
Oh, Terry. Do you need your ego stroked? Er, your brand? I'd be happy to do that!
- Robert Scoble
not at all! there's only two of us in the whole world, and the other guy isnt on the net. only people following me are family, friends or crazys. no brand i work for others :P
- Terry O'Fee
i mean no offense, i just find it funny some times people get really into all of this is all.
- Terry O'Fee
Robert - your point about showing the icons where the content comes from is one I'd like as well. I asked for something like that a few weeks ago: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Hutch Carpenter
The main issue here is that we need powerful recommender systems to prioritize floods of news items on particular topics along various parameters: personal relevance, global popularity, global elite popularity, etc.
- Sean McBride
By the way, it's much easier to manage these ego feeds (or any news search feeds) through Google Reader than through Friendfeed.
- Sean McBride
These stickers will be removed and My laptop is 4 years old and dinged up. So I started stickerizing it. If it was newer, or I had to work with clients, I definitely would not have stickers on my laptop. But I have created a couple of laptop wraps, so I'm thinking of puting those on my laptop. I also have stickers on my keybord and monitor edges.
- Admiral Anika
Hmmm, I'm also noticing that the boy removed about 6 other stickers. Evil.
- Admiral Anika
hA! I love the "no scavengering" sticker. (not to mention the seesmic raccoon!)
- Thomas Knoll
I quite a few different 'no scavenging' stickers made by the City of LA. 6 by my last count. This is just the smallest one I have. I have another that would cover the entire back. That one has images that are hilarious.
- Admiral Anika
Thomas: here's the big sticker: http://friendfeed.com/e.... I think my others are either in the garage in a bag or somewhere...Sigh. We "cleaned" recently. Ha.
- Admiral Anika
hey dear Leather Donut, thank you for encouraging us so much in our new direction
- Loic Le Meur
from twhirl
Gregory, I am all ears to help you, please email me at loic at seesmic dot com
- Loic Le Meur
from twhirl
no, I am not technical myself enough, but I have a great team, and they will explain more how it works very soon
- Loic Le Meur
from twhirl
XMPP allows us to avoid polling on the site and enables us to push live content to 3rd party apps and services. It's the whole push vs. pull thing. It'll also enable us to do some pretty cool Web 2.0 kind of services like "live search / track" in a much more painless way than traditionally. It'll enable us to have live interactions between users on and off the site. It's simply another tool on our belt, and we intend to make the most of it.
- Nathan Fritz
It will also provide a means for IM interaction with the service like Friendfeed and Identi.ca provides. Remember when Twitter had this?
- Nathan Fritz
To summarize: 1) push vs. pull. 2) really enabling our 3rd party devs to do cool things with the service. 3) Live interaction between users on and off the site. 4) IM interaction with the service.
- Nathan Fritz
We need a way to be notified of conversations we comment on but do not originate! I lose track of so many conversations because I don't have the time to constantly go back to my comments page and read down the list. Conversations die because of this!
Yes, I have requested several times, for some reason it is not being implemented, Facebook does it, Getsatisfaction.com does a great job of keeping you in the loop of a conversation via email, I am not sure why FriendFeed hasn't done anything about it yet.
- Kelly Johns
For me they die because I forget I ever commented on something and I am too busy to constantly go back to one page and scan to see if there are new entries, the only reason I am responding to this is because I am getting gchat notifications
- Kelly Johns
Gregory: Uh... yeah... ok. Probably doesn't help that FF buries them though, eh? ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
I would like the option to get notifications via email rather than gchat, gchat can get annoying sometimes, but email is easy to manage and for me easier to read and follow a conversation.
- Kelly Johns
There can be an update ping (or something) right on Friendfeed itself. Just like the alert we get at the top of the left sidebar when someone invites us to a room. It could say - "1 new update". :)
- Vijayendra (V-Mo) Mohanty
I don't care about external notification, just send it back to the top of my feed. Same as when someone comments on an item I created. Once I Like or Comment, I care about it and should see subsequent updates.
- Ken Sheppardson
Aha. I just realized this is how it works for "Likes", but not comments. If you "Like" the item, you'll see subsequent updates.
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken, you mean if you Like it, it will show up at the top of your feed when new comments appear? This is good, but it would be nice to have the option to get different kinds of notifications, email, gchat, or top of feed for anything you have commented on. Then you could choose in settings what is best.
- Kelly Johns
Kelly: Yep. This just popped back up to the top when you commented
- Ken Sheppardson
Scratch that. 'Like' doesn't make it pop back up. I was only seeing this pop again because it's in a room I subscibe to. Doh.
- Ken Sheppardson
You guys are so in tune, I thought it wouldn't hurt to ask :}
- vijay
when he's busy, he's really busy. when i'm 'busy', i'm actually still able to slack. that's the difference really. but we'll be in the same place at the same time starting on the 23rd - woo hoo!
- Morgan Haley
Wow, I have a mental image of what's gonna happen on 23rd when you guys get together; totally looking forward to it. lol.
- vijay
it's going to be about 28 hours of Wii tennis tourneys, for sure. Then we'll eat at Taco Bell. Then we will sleep. Then down to visit the folks and grandfolks in Port Aransas. I'm looking forward to the trip very much.
- Morgan Haley
Robert - Like that you're traveling some with Milan. He's seeing things many kids only dream about. Hopefully he'll remember. Great stuff
- Charlie Anzman
OK so your kids create interactive web companies and then you evangelize them. That would be a killer combo!
- Jeremy Campbell
from twhirl
Eiso: we're here for Nokia World. Looking forward to hearing all about their new phones.
- Robert Scoble
johnpiercy: that's the front page. Heh.
- Robert Scoble
"Train up a child in the way he should go and he shall not depart from it - Bible (smart... get him reading young...very wise move!) BTW, I remember a TON of things at a very early age, even diaper changes, so hopefully Milan will remember this trip!!
- Susan Beebe
I hope my future children take up similar characteristics.
- Daniel Zarick
milan will be a well read and well educated child time by the time he hits school .... his life will never be short of experiences
- johnpiercy