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The Only Workable Revenue Model for the Web Is Trust - http://www.conversationagent.com/2009...
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no doubt about this we've been building Ecademy's subscription business since December 7th 2002 that's over 7 years. Ecademy begun in February 1998. That's 12 years. Trust takes time. This year we got to know Louis Gray and hired him as a Speaker in London. This relationship is emerging and will gently expand in 2010. Trust takes time. It's taken me almost 3 years to settle into Friendfeed. Plus ca change, plus c'est le meme chose. Why hurry trust?
- Thomas Power
I agree, Thomas. Trust takes a long time to grow and an instant to kill.
- Dawn
That, and selling things.
- Cliff Gerrish
from iPhone
10 of my favorite social media mentors | Janet Fouts - http://janetfouts.com/10-soci...
Thomas Power, Sameer and Amani liked this
LG you are No1 in the world on this list for me
- Thomas Power
Re: 10 of my favorite social media mentors - http://janetfouts.com/10-soci...
"Brilliant list Janet. I agree Louis Gray is the best in the world. I would like to hire all the others you recommend in 2010 as Speakers and Trainers in London and the USA."
- Thomas Power
Re: How I Aimed to Do Better On the Web in 2009 - http://blog.louisgray.com/2009...
"Awesome I would say. Solid progress. http://www.alexa.com/siteinf...... Is the LG Network launching in 2010 with private meetings?"
- Thomas Power
Re: How I Aimed to Do Better On the Web in 2009 - http://blog.louisgray.com/2009...
"And how did your traffic grow in 2009 LG? As Steve says YOU are the man to follow in 2010. Who else is there?"
- Thomas Power
FestivusFeed: Start Festivus right with the traditional Airing of Grievances.
Moses Kpetigo, Mathew A. Koeneker, guruvan (Rob Nelson) and 93 other people liked this
Image borrowed from a super old post. http://blog.louisgray.com/2007...
- Louis Gray
Grievance: There is no longer an official Festivus Feed.
- Louis Gray
Grievance: That we discussed this back in August as well. http://friendfeed.com/louisgr...
- Louis Gray
"I got a lot of problems with you people! And now, you're gonna hear about it."
- Louis Gray
Grievance: Sean Percival! Your hair is too straight and too long, and you are too thin.
- Louis Gray
Grievance: Rahsheen! All your topless pictures are posted and yet, it does not encourage any women to do the same!
- Louis Gray
Ha! Double Ha! in fact.
- sean percival
Grievance: Anne Bouey, you are too kind to everyone. I want to know what you really think about Facebook.
- Louis Gray
Grievance: Cecily, you carry on the stereotype of the stern librarian who does not approve of shenanigans! Live it up every once in a while.
- Louis Gray
Grievance: Friendfeed didn't buy Facebook and declare it *dead* :D
- Adrian
Grievance: Haggis! You are the lamest poker in the world I have ever seen. Pathetic.
- Louis Gray
Grievance: Adrian, you couldn't man up and get Anika to take your last name like a true patriarch!
- Louis Gray
Oh man... I lost the armwrestling match that was supposed to decide that. :(
- Adrian
I trained for weeks too!
- Adrian
OMG *gets out p-whip*
- Admiral Anika
Grievance: Spidra, your avatar looks like Rosie the Riveter meets Archie from Archie Comics. Let's see the real you!
- Louis Gray
Grievance: Anika, you have not told us all the dirt about Mark Krynsky that you really know. It's time you told us. Everything.
- Louis Gray
Jaime Hernandez was very influenced by Archie Comics. I doubt I'll change my avatar, but (and this gets to *my* grievance) I have posted quite a few pics of me in my feed - that so few of my subscribers read, like or comment on. :-P
- Spidra Webster
Grievance: we haven't seen enough of LG bragging that he's whipped someone in Scrabble or Mario Kart. Especially that he's mercilessly beaten his mother.
- Spidra Webster
lol
- T. Brent, technopeasant
Grievance: Jandy, if you were truly the ConcertMaven of FF, how come I have #1) never been invited to a concert you attended, and #2) you have not yet organized a concert made up of FriendFeed performers?
- Louis Gray
Spidra, I try to remain humble. I would never bore you with such triviality. :)
- Louis Gray
Grievance: Louis, your most fun posts are only seen by insomniacs.
- Bruce Lewis
Grievance: Bruce, OurDoings has not yet been acquired by FriendFeed or Facebook and is far too obscure, requiring much more visibility.
- Louis Gray
Obscure? The user group http://friendfeed.com/ourdoin... has 13 subscribers. That's gotta be about half the active FriendFeed user base, if the pundits are to be believed.
- Bruce Lewis
Louis, #1) Consider yourself invited to every concert I attend; all you gotta do is come down to LA! #2) I'm waiting for Spidra to move back down here, then I will organize said concert with her in the lead. And you're invited. :)
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Hmm. We can take over the Rose Bowl and have a huge festival. What will we call it? Ffunderstruck?
- Spidra Webster
Sounds awesome! I'll get started on the booking arrangements! :p
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Well, Louis, to tell you the truth, I've never been on Facebook!
- Anne Bouey
Anne, your truthfulness pleases everyone. :) Carry on.
- Louis Gray
Festivus used to be about grievances. All this cheerfulness is ruining it! ;-)
- Bruce Lewis
Where the hell did I put my pole?
- l0ckergn0me
Grievance: Chris Pirillo is not lifecasting in 3D, so I don't feel like I know him well enough.
- Louis Gray
Grievance: Mahendra's sharing preferences on Google Reader and Twitter are dramatically different than the posts he selects for Techmeme while on his shift.
- Louis Gray
LOL...is that a grievance?!
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Grievance: Atul Arora is remarkably mysterious about his full-time work life, and is seen as a full-time link sharer.
- Louis Gray
Grievance: Jim Norris complains often about struggles with attracting a date, yet he is cute enough and successful enough that I would be happy to pass his name along to potential partners. :)
- Louis Gray
Grievance: Louis Gray won't stop hitting on me.
- Jim Norris
In your dreams, Norris -- LG only fantasizes of RSS feeds ;)
- Mona Nomura
Grievance: Jim's and Mona's hilarious comments make mine look really lame by comparison.
- Bruce Lewis
Grievance: Not enough things have been declared Dead, Lame or Wrong...
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
Grievance: I didn't follow the thread format, which probably leveled up LG's grievance. ;)
- Mona Nomura
Grievance: Bret Taylor hasn't publicized the fact Toby Gerhart lost the Heisman Trophy award after weeks of unrealistic hype.
- Louis Gray
from iPhone
Grievance: People post their mugs way too much up in here! #getaroom
- Mona Nomura
Grievance: Mona's everyday drinking behavior makes college students feel like underachievers both in the classroom and at their frat houses or sororities.
- Louis Gray
from iPhone
Grievance: WorldOfHiglet has not posted her novel to FriendFeed as a PDF to download.
- Louis Gray
from iPhone
Grievance: I live to far away from Louis Gray
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
Grievance: Stephen Mack toils away at TiVo for a decade and hasn't ONCE posted promo codes for lower-cost units. He also won't tell us if there is anything beyond the TiVo XL.
- Louis Gray
from iPhone
Track down Louis Gray using this http://www.phonedetective.com/PD...
- Thomas Power
Grievance: Johnny Worthington isn't Australian enough. Secondary grievance... the Skype connection to FFunderCats is complete rubbish.
- Louis Gray
from iPhone
Grievance: I can't quit you...
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
Grievance: Thomas Power runs a successful social network and his three children somehow all still managed to become FarmVille addicts.
- Louis Gray
from iPhone
Grievance: I have no housemates to annoy with my loud cackling at this thread.
- Spidra Webster
bah humbug
- Thomas Power
Grievance: Louis Gray made me snort my tea when I read his comment about my novel...
- WorldofHiglet
Grievance: Akiva and Rochelle Moskovitz go to bed way too early.
- Louis Gray
from iPhone
Grievance: Louis Gray has not been listening to my audiobook podcast
- WorldofHiglet
Grievance: Kol has a last name that nobody can pronounce, and a first name that should be short for something, but nobody has any clue.
- Louis Gray
from iPhone
Trez-Gas-Ges ... I can
- Thomas Power
LG, it's short for "Koldkockya"
- Spidra Webster
Ouch that sounds painful Spidra. This is what LG stands for http://www.lgblog.co.uk/wp-cont...
- Thomas Power
LOL, Louis. Kol, short for Kolin, i.e. Colin. Tregaskes: say like Tree-Gas-Kes. Easy. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Grievance: I never get invited to all the great meatbag parties
- Mo Kargas
Grievance: I never go to bed. Wait...Another Grievance: I'm always late to these parties.
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
Grievance: All my network is on Twitter instead of FriendFeed. Bastards!
- Justin Whitaker
Grievance: this video won't edit itself.
- WorldofHiglet
Grievance: LG's not on FF right now. Which leads me to believe he could only be sleeping. I'm disillusioned.
- Spidra Webster
Grievance: FriendFeed got hijacked by Facebook - bah! I think they should switch places. I mean, declare FB dead and switch all those accounts over to FF --- now, that would be AWESOME!
- Susan Beebe
Grievance: Not enough chocolate over here, that's cuz I ate most of it already :P *sad santa*
- Susan Beebe
I'm glad you aired out these grievances, Louis, They were starting to stink before, all boxed up like that.
- Stephen Mack
I don't get a Grievance? Woo hoo! I win!
- Kamilah Gill
Grievance: Spidra does not recognize I can be off FriendFeed and still not asleep at the same time. A rarity, but true.
- Louis Gray
Grievance: Susan Beebe dutifully listens in to every Gillmor Gang, but has yet to be invited on as a participant.
- Louis Gray
Grievance: Kamilah Gill is still doing her daily sketches and has yet to switch to oil-based paints.
- Louis Gray
Grievance: Stephen Mack has no resemblance to the line of trucks which bear his name.
- Louis Gray
Grievance: Paul Buchheit has not yet singlehandedly made Facebook as cool as FriendFeed or GMail.
- Louis Gray
:P I'm going to! and I have done tons of oil painting. That's how I got my art degree. Ah, that's better. Happy Festivus.
- Kamilah Gill
Grievance: Stuart Miniman won't admit that the vast majority of people who interact with him don't really get the full benefits of Fibre Channel Over Ethernet (FCoE).
- Louis Gray
Greviance.... Apple not letting Google Voice on the iPhone
- Roberto Bonini
Grievance: It is still only Christmas Eve, so I cannot partake in the (completely made up by me) tradition of spending as much of the day as possible in my Christmas pajamas.
- joey
Grievance: It's Christmas Eve day and I'm at work :(
- T. Brent, technopeasant
Greviance: Jet lag is screwing up my sleeping patterns.
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
Grievance: I wish you could all be eating Turkey here with me. Instead I have to type on a keyboard to try to feel close to you.
- Jorge Escobar
Greviance: Transporter tech hasn't been invented. See above.
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
Roberto, I've got a prototype working. You stand beneath one circular shower curtain and jump into the space with another circular shower curtain. Now all I need is to work on the distance.
- Cristo
Cristo: You tried that on Alex yet??4 ;)
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
Grievance: No one on my FF feed or FoaF has yet made a YouTube video of their Feats of Strength
- Spidra Webster
Spidra: not even Rah??
- WorldofHiglet
Spidra, I may have a photo of mine a little later. No video, though.
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
WoH, got link? ha3rvey, I'm sure we all look forward to it!
- Spidra Webster
HA HA! I totally escaped the Airing of Grievances.
- Steven Perez
Grievance: DYSP.
- Kamilah Gill
TOO LATE. YOU MISSED THE CUTOFF.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Belated Grievance: I missed the cutoff.
- Kamilah Gill
The Five Ecosystems I’m Watching in 2010 (iPhone, Facebook, Twitter, AppleTV, and Google) - http://www.charleshudson.net/the-fiv...
Thomas Power liked this
and the LG-Ecademy ecosystem too surely?
- Thomas Power
I don't know that Charles is focused on that ecosystem, Thomas.
- Louis Gray
Finding the diamonds in the rough in the “blogosphere” :: in propria persona - http://www.inpropriapersona.com/2009...
you mean like you LG
- Thomas Power
Depends on your perspective. The author suggests that I am not so hidden. More accurate would likely be the "five new bloggers a month" I was highlighting for the better part of a year.
- Louis Gray
Yelp Walks Away From Google Deal, And Half A Billion Dollars - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
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OMG why?
- Thomas Power
It could be an issue of control, an alternative offer, or even a possibility of an IPO. 2010 is shaping up to be a very interesting IPO market.
- Louis Gray
you really think so LG it's all doom and gloom here in Europe all bad news for 2010 and 2011 pay down debt etc etc. America IPO hey forget the past, you gotta love those Americans with $9trn in debt who cares?
- Thomas Power
I would say that 2010 and 2011 have the potential for Zynga, Yelp, LinkedIn, Facebook, Twitter and many others to make the leap. VCs in the Valley are tired of being beat up and they want some wins, come hell or high water.
- Louis Gray
And don't forget hardware. I already know of some that have plans. #secrecy
- Louis Gray
Interesting. I hope the possible other partner is a good one. Yelp is well positioned to be THE player in customer reviews of restaurants, stores, etc., but only if they become a lot more agile and more integrated with the biggest social networks and social mobile stuff. I'm not sure I would have trusted Google to make that happen. I'm thinking maybe Facebook got to Yelp? Not sure that would be a good thing either.
- Laura Norvig
aha Facebook becoming Yellow Pages I thought that was Google territory. What is the revenue of Yelp? Add that to the FB $730m and they may have the $1bn they need for an IPO. Linkedin revenue apparently is only $70m-$100m. Not enough really to justify their $1bn valuation. Thus LI will have to throw in with FB also before their 2010 IPO.
- Thomas Power
Simon Cowell Offers 'Rage' Campaigners Marketing Gigs - http://www.mediabistro.com/agencys...
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what a genius he is so simple http://www.brandrepublic.com/News...
- Thomas Power
the only genius I could see was admitting he got it wrong :-)
- Nic Windley
Distributed and Federated Social Networks - http://blog.superfeedr.com/XMPP...
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Julian Bond Ecademy CTO talked about this in 2002 http://www.ecademy.com/account...
- Thomas Power
I think what Julian is asking for in that article would be very doable if we could merge PubSubHub and/or XMPP with a gateway that speaks "Twitter"
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Re: Bing! Ballmer Says You’re Fired [VIDEO] - http://mashable.com/2009...
"Fake"
- Thomas Power
Is There Anything Google Won’t Buy or Offer? - http://www.markevanstech.com/2009...
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didn't chris pirillo try this? and he found it not possible.. i have considered living in a google-less world... they offer to much tentacles everywhere don't think it can happen. And that is just how they like it.
- Jay M
It is almost impossible for an early adopter, but many people only use Google for search still.
- Rob Diana
Without Google, a lot of burgeoning new web ideas and technologies would have vanished without a trace. With Google, some people get to make a lot of money before their burgeoning new web ideas and technologies vanish without a trace :-)
- Slappy Line
when Sergey and Larry landed on this planet they came with the utmost respect and with a willingness to do good for mankind. Don't be evil was the first phrase they learned when they arrived here. When google enslaves the human race our mantra's will be "don't be evil"
- Jay M
Yeah, I tried it... wasn't so difficult. Googlefasting, I believe.
- l0ckergn0me
they haven't offered for twitter yet and they will
- Thomas Power
The team behind socialmedian is already hard at work on our next... - http://betashop.com/post...
Mo Kargas liked this
we all wish Jason good luck on SM 2.0
- Thomas Power
Twitter Is DEAD, Facebook Has Won - http://www.johnnyworthington.com/...
Sean McBride, atanas, Victor Panlilio and 32 other people liked this
Just one note if he is the one with the http://twitter.com/johnwor... with no photo, he has no basis of understanding and doesn't even know how to utilize it, much less pass judgement. If he isn't and has an account that was utilized then it's more relevant. So many people want to be social media experts and claim they are and yet they lack the experience or understanding. So it's irrelevant, though his face to face less than 20% of his Facebook Friends use Twitter.
- James Stratford
Nope wrong one.. Johnny is at http://twitter.com/jworthi.... He doesn't claim to be a social media expert.. but he knows his shit, and he's always a good read. You can also find him here at http://friendfeed.com/jworthi....
- Chris Myles
Hrm. That kinda illustrates the whole point, James. Friendfeed is the perfect example. So many posts have been written about it by people that hadn't a clue. Others saw these sources as authorities on the subject and believed whatever was said. Experience and understanding is relative. Johnny is spot on here :)
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I choose the blue pill :-P
- Jesse Stay
utter utter nonsense Johnny you're out of touch
- Thomas Power
...liked the rant on the strength of this gem alone: "...[m]y space may be a bath tub in a sea of fact..." a clever turn of phrase, and an unintended diss of MySpace as well. kill two birds. +1^100
- .LAG liked that
I agree with Johnny. The mere cost of generating enough followers and building yourself up to be a 'trust agent' a la Chris Broggan far exceeds any business value that can be derived. Here is the test -- how many tweets do you actually read? I'll bet you'll say those on your preferred lists, perhaps 20 people. The other tens of thousands go unheard. Now scale that. Twitter is dead as a social and especially business social medium.
- Doug Wolfgram
James, two things... I have a photo (I photoshopped the FriendFeed DoubleFs inside the Twitter no photo avatar) and I have over 30 saved searchs on all the topics I want to read about. I use Twitter very well, I just don't go around telling everyone just how shit hot I am at it...
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
Rock on Johnny.. rock on!! and I agree.. 95% of my friends are on facebook and could care less about twitter. That doesn't mean I don't find some value.. but it's awkward and difficult to explain the value to non believers.. facebook doesn't require an explanation or a value sell!!
- Chris Myles
I stood up in front of an audience of 1,000 tech geeks and developers 2 months ago and had the exact same response.
- Jesse Stay
I find it funny that James even found this post on FriendFeed, since he doesn't seem to spend a lot of time here (has a lot of subscribers though, which is interesting). I understand the sentiment of being sick of self-proclaimed social media experts, but also entertained that he bashes Johnny of all people. Johnny may not be a social media expert but that's mainly because he just finds...
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- Fa La La La Lindsay
Twitter's not dead, considering it's now appearing at the top of Google search results. Considering the 3rd party app store getting a new round of funding. Considering it's a serious target for hackers. I don't particularly care for Twitter myself, but it's very much alive.
- Raphael, Raphael
Raphael, before that, FriendFeed got top billing in Google... Things change
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
Re: betashop, The team behind socialmedian is already hard at... - http://betashop.com/post...
"and we all wish you luck Jason"
- Thomas Power
Plaxo CTO Joseph Smarr Will Lead Google’s Social Web Efforts - http://gigaom.com/2009...
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great news good luck Joseph
- Thomas Power
Does Facebook have Aspbergers? - http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger...
Mike Nencetti, Joe Silence and Mark "DerBingle" J liked this
LOL! I love that analogy!
- Fa La La La Lindsay
That would/does sort of militate against the whole "social' media thing...
- Mark "DerBingle" J
Facebook is about a big email list, revenue, profit and a $10bn IPO next year. Why would FB listen to users who pay them nothing. Can you really have an opinion and complain about something you don't pay for?
- Thomas Power
Yeah but... Facebook (or any "social" site, for that matter) derives it's long-term mojo from having all those users, and presumably wants more. Sure, they don't HAVE to listen. They don't HAVE to do anything. But if they ignore the legitimate desires and concerns of their users repeatedly, users go bye bye. (And an email list of used-to-be-users won't generate the long-term outlook for big returns that help make an IPO successful.)
- Mark "DerBingle" J
agree Mark nice post
- Thomas Power
oh and Alexa ranks Facebook 2nd - http://www.alexa.com/topsites
- Thomas Power
Startup Bloodbath in Social Media? - http://www.cloudave.com/link...
Thomas Power liked this
life is always tough for start-ups
- Thomas Power
Apple Looking to Have Record iPhone Quarter: Report - http://theappleblog.com/2009...
Kurt Starnes, Mike Nencetti and Thomas Power liked this
My God I just don't get it the keyboard on my BlackBerry remains miles better than my iPhone for answering email. How do they do it? Apps, Fashion, Coolness.
- Thomas Power
Speaking of your Blackberry, are you going to call me or what, Thomas? I keep hitting VM. :)
- Louis Gray
hey man calling you now. That's 82,222 iPhones a day.
- Thomas Power
aha called you but you're on vmail. Have I caught out the king of sm pop? The king of connected.
- Thomas Power
The AT&T Network doesn't seem to be holding back sales.
- Cliff Gerrish
Can you imagine how much bigger they'd be if they unlocked the phones? Google may just force that to happen next year.
- Warren Whitlock
Thomas: How they do it is easy: Most people don't answer email on their phones, other than short brief fragments. Email on the mobile device market tends to be a very read-only affair.
- Otto
FriendFeeds Visitors might be down but its quality is back up - http://techwag.com/index...
Ed Millard, rowlikeagirl, Amani and 12 other people liked this
hear hear Twitter and Facebook cannot deliver FF group quality.
- Thomas Power
Whooo HOOO! Thanks Louis - This means I get the Louis Gray effect! Yes! (for those who don't know google "louis gray effect" it should raise a laugh or two).
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
They say the best and earliest quality on the net is from Slashdot and Reddit
- Itachi
@Itachi - agree on slashdot - I never really got into reddit or Digg for that matter.
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
3 out of the 5 FriendFeeders he's picked aren't even active on the site. Lame.
- Itachi
Agree Thomas, FF trumps all for engaging content and discussion
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
Facebook Rolls Out FB.me URL Shortener - http://ryanspoon.com/blog...
Itachi, Steve Chou, Kol Tregaskes and 7 other people liked this
should used FK.me
- Allen Stern
Allen, you are so fired.
- Louis Gray
i am asleep
- Allen Stern
Louis is always awake. Allen is always asleep. Hmmm...
- Jesse Stay
Hm. Now Jesse, can you please go code those SocialToo improvements I requested?
- Louis Gray
jesse - dont you have some people to auto-block ?
- Allen Stern
im gonna get "cc.cc" for my shortener
- Allen Stern
Allen, Louis is SocialToo-proof. I can't auto-block him - I keep trying.
- Jesse Stay
for the record, I was not talking about Louis, Jesse you should know that Louis is unblockable and/or unbannable. This is part of the geneva conventions.
- Allen Stern
I know some people that have blocked Louis :-)
- Jesse Stay
surely no-one would block the king of social media pop (KOSMP).
- Thomas Power
+1 Allen
- Charlie Anzman
charliiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeee!
- Allen Stern
I liked Allen's retort
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Accenture Dumps Tiger - http://blogs.barrons.com/techtra...
Brian and John E. Bredehoft liked this
very sad and inevitable. I'm very interested to see what kind of man returns to the golf course in 2011. Pain creates real growth in humans.
- Thomas Power
Do you really think he'll stay out for all of 2010?
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
Voice of the Brand http://www.tomfishburne.com/tomfish...
A Mitchell, SAM, Derek Coward and 2 other people liked this
Tom Fisburne money quote: "Social media exposes Cyrano de Bergerac."
- Valeria Maltoni
LOL love it
- Thomas Power
OneTVO Video :: Ecademy Co-founders Thomas Power and Penny Power (Idea, Market, Value) - http://www.onetvo.com/video206
Fadi Yaacoub, Michael R. Bernstein and Thomas Power liked this
A great series of videos featuring Thomas and Penny
- Louis Gray
from Bookmarklet
Ecademy has been around since 1997 and is a profitable social network for small business owners and social media users. http://www.ecademy.com
- Louis Gray
thank you so much Louis.
- Thomas Power
Blah - shilling, we used to call this..
- Andy Connell
Sorry, that was uncalled-for - just fed up with promo/enthusiasm. Time for a break from FF I think..
- Andy Connell
Andy, if folks like Mark Zuckerberg of Facebook or Reid Hoffman of LinkedIn put together detailed videos, those are news. Ecademy is lesser-known, but has been around a long time, and Thomas is an enthusiastic supporter of FriendFeed, and a friend of mine. That this transparency is available is a good thing in my opinion. Being positive is not always to be mistrusted.
- Louis Gray
Hey Andy, Penny and I are not here to promote or sell we are only here to connect people
- Thomas Power
Matthew and Sarah reunited with their parents after their week in Paris (at my parents' house)
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Josh Haley, Charlotte M, Jason Huebel and 25 other people liked this
awww they must have been SO happy to see you!
- Call me Bronco
Looks like Sarah has discovered zippers just like JJ - he loves my shirt with the zippers
- Jesse Stay
Yay! I bet they were excited. :)
- Rochelle
lovely! :)
- Oğuz Serdar
Haha - Thought I'd check in with the movers and shakers of the Friendfeed community. It's Saturday night, and so far I find baby pictures and wedding photos. I think we can safely say that the action is now elsewhere..
- Andy Connell
Thanks for posting these, Louis! Sarah and Matthew look thoroughly content!
- Anne Bouey
You're welcome, Anne! Just for you, of course. Jesse, yes, Sarah loves zippers, including her own. She prefers to be clothing-free. And Andy, Friday and Saturday nights are family-friendly here on FriendFeed. For more techie stuff, please check the rest of my feed. Thanks!
- Louis Gray
well done the two of you what a great trip crumbs next time you might end up in Africa or Russia! When are we getting the Le Web mega summary predictions who you met and what we should know for 2010 blog?
- Thomas Power
Compete reports FriendFeed traffic now is below last year's numbers. Down 21% month over month as well.
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- michael sean wright
I'm still here damnit!
- Glenn Slaven
Not me! I left a long time ago! (p.s., I can quit whenever I want)
- Louis Gray
The lightweights left. Good riddance.
- Spidra Webster
Figures. FF may have jumped the shark when it sold out to Facebook. But at least we diehards continue to stick around...
- Dennis Jernberg
my feed is jumping more than ever. something in those stats must be broken or skewed.
- Joe Silence
"... this is when we opened the real time beta and when the beta rolled out to the main site... oh and this is when we announced the Facebook aquisition..."
- KyleHase
I've been getting a rather healthy influx of new subscribers.
- Mark Davidson
Everyone's experience is different, Joe. I believe, in aggregate, that these numbers are correct. That doesn't impact my own behavior, of course.
- Louis Gray
Yes but I think the quality of information here is much better. The people that left were producing noise. Thank god Scoble took them with him..
- Uncle CW™
definitely less noise
- holly
oh, yes.
- Joe Silence
ff's dying:(
- Igor Poltavskiy
Compete or Complete? just wondering?
- Bill Heslin
not so Igor
- Mitch
Compete.com is Incomplete, Bill. :)
- Louis Gray
it's not dying, Igor, it's just losing the "flavour of the month" people who like to talk to the mirror.
- Joe Silence
lol...ty Louis...after I typed it I said ....Ooooh god...I'm an ass...no one needs to agree...
- Bill Heslin
I've been hit with a bunch of new followers lately. I'm still doing the same ole thing, I think. Plus, I found the librarians (or maybe they found me?).
- Derrick
@Derrick: in the end, The Librarians find us all!
- Joe Silence
well, that's not entirely true.
- Joe Silence
I've still got around my librarian at my U...it's a catholic u...I thank my spiritual friends...lmao
- Bill Heslin
Derrick - it was a mutual thing :)
- holly
Well, FF is probably the best of the last round of linear conversation and aggregation tools, largely thanks to the lack of overhead and fluff (the users contribute plenty). Whether you use it in a bare-bones, flat way -- or have mastered an elaborate orchestration of API hooks and fiddlizations -- there is plenty of value to be had in the way FF handles its business and lets the user handle theirs.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
This matches my observations as well and is a major reason why I've spent less time here. Chris: the problem is that most people tell me that Facebook has enough conversations for them. One of Zuckerberg's items a week ago had many thousands of comments.
- Robert Scoble
That still doesn't mean anything for me - it's still a very productive tool. I'm at an advantage by using it.
- Jesse Stay
I'm still here on FF too!
- imabonehead
quantity != quality
- holly
Compete is about as wrong as Alexa was in the old days. Seriously, I have numerous benchmarks where I *know* the traffic and Compete is often off by serious margins. Instead, I'd use Quantcast which shows a major drop off in September, but with the bottom falling out the numbers have started to trend back up again. http://www.quantcast.com/friendf...
- AJ Kohn
I agree only Quantcast is accurate-ish.
- Thomas Power
@Thomas: Yes, I'm not saying Quantcast is always right, but it's usually more right than the others.
- AJ Kohn
Alexa is a relative measure it's relatively right http://www.alexa.com/siteinf... the top sites look right-ish to me http://www.alexa.com/topsites when compared to Quantcast http://www.quantcast.com/top-sit...
- Thomas Power
Thomas, that looks pretty up and to the right to me, in a long-term sense. It's fun to look at the short-term, but we're seeing no sense on a long-term scale of FriendFeed losing traffic. Great point on the Alexa and Quantcast (assuming we even need traffic graphs to keep us on here)
- Jesse Stay
Thx J x
- Thomas Power
@Robert, I'll never argue that Facebook isn't more popular. All the cute that it offers (which isn't nearly as bad as it could be) seems to make it approachable enough to a much wider audience than a tool like FF. I get that you can filter out the fluff and minimize the Facebookishness of it, but then you're stuck with their interface and color scheme (unless I'm missing something). I guess I really see them as being different corners at the same party.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
whatever it is.friendfeed still has it's unique user group's. i am happy to be here
- İbrahim Ot
I see more interaction on my items now than in the pre-Facebook days, but I may be an outlier.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
from iPod
Well, I don't care what the numbers say. I get much more out of Friendfeed (in terms of discovery, engagement *and* enjoyment) than I ever have from Facebook - and I should point out that, with 2 or 3 exceptions, I've met everyone on my Facebook friends list.. Friendfeed demonstrates that it doesn't require a cast of 350 million to make a great community.
- Andrew Terry
hear hear Andrew
- Thomas Power
looks like FriendFeed was the first to be kicked by Facebook changes.. wich is not so bad since the service belongs to
- Frédérick 2 Baro
from Yoono
Somehow I feel the Compete state are not correct!
- Sampad Swain
I'm not going anywhere!
- Jason Hill
To get a good experience, friendfeed has always required you to put in a lot of time. So many active users comment on a thread and Hide it when they no longer have anything to say, if you come by a few hours later to comment you're just talking to a wall. friendfeed has never been very rewarding for casual use, in my experience, and that is doubly true now.
- DGentry
Awe man....
- Alternating Reality Books
What RAP says. I don't think this could ever be determined, but I wonder if certain language groups have dropped off their use while other language groups have maintained?
- Rochelle
You can Hide Stories? Really? Well, damn, so you can.
- Jason Hill
*yikes* that explains the lethargic Home Feed; less users = less interaction/activity = the lethargic(boring) feed
- sofarsoShawn
I check FF as much as I ever did (though I should prolly post more)
- Iain Baker
*quoting mode on* Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. -- Albert Einstein.
- Citronella
Do not like ...
- Charlie Anzman
not a good news
- Ted GUO
:-(
- Kol Tregaskes
Traffic Statistics: fascinating if you like numbers; otherwise it's just classic ePenis-waving, pointing, and gloating, and not really important if you're happy.
- Mark H
Without ads, how does friendfeed pay for itself?
- T. Brent, technopeasant
That's a shame seeing as FF is better than all the other social sites. I'll continue to use it until I can't.
- Araceli
All you frowny faces need to go read through the thread - FriendFeed's just fine - up and to the right even. I'm not sure why Louis felt the need to post this. See this thread, much more accurate: http://friendfeed.com/jessest...
- Jesse Stay
Note that November was the month Scoble announced publicly he was leaving Friendfeed (FTMP)
- Jesse Stay
T. Brent, FriendFeed doesn't need to make money (although I'm sure they will) - they're owned by Facebook, which is already profitable and cash-flow positive
- Jesse Stay
Yet, keep in mind FriendFeed is part of Google's deal for real-time content :-) I bet there was money there.
- Jesse Stay
Thx, Jesse.
- T. Brent, technopeasant
"Q: Why doesn’t Compete’s estimate of site visitors match my local analytics (e.g. Google Analytics, Omniture)? ... A: ... Compete measures only US activity." -- http://www.compete.com/resourc..., while the Alexa chart Jesse posted in his thread showing up-and-to-the-right growth reflects global activity. There's no real disconnect between the two charts. Which one you think matters more probably depends on what argument you're trying to support.
- Ken Sheppardson
What's friendfeed?
- veo
Ken, exactly
- Jesse Stay
veo: the matrix. you're in it. you just don't know it.
- Itachi
Interesting. I was just thinking that FF has started to die. The activity amongst my friends and friends of friends has decreased considerably in recent weeks.
- Jason Toney
oh that's not cool wonder what's going on!!!
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
still here
- Mike Nencetti
successful exists do not always equal successful products once acquisiiton is complete.
- susan mernit
...still here. Still like it. Still find it useful on many levels. The thing about FF is that even at its peak, its traffic and usage wasn't even in the same league as Facebook, Twitter, or even MySpace in steep decline. The raw user numbers never (or should I say, optimistically, haven't) reached any kind of critical mass. Outside of the early-adopter and sophisticated info junkie/informavore crowds, Friendfeed, just isn't that relevant.
- .LAG liked that
Quoting Jeniffer Aniston: This is so uncool. :-(
- Olivia Lovag
why I should trust only compete's data? where is guarantee they are not biased due to some unknown reason? now if you would go to e.g. quantcast for another opinion http://www.quantcast.com/friendf... and switch between 3m, 6m, 1yr and "all"... do you see difference? yes, I know quantcast doesn't have access to data, only estimate, yet... Ok, let's try alexa.com http://www.alexa.com/siteinf... - and they also show compeletly different trend... so, WHY we should trust compete's graphs?
- A.T.
A.T., be sure to also see my article here that agrees with you: http://staynalive.com/article...
- Jesse Stay
How many people here use FF for work / project dev - or do you use it for just link sharing with friends?
- zeroinfluencer
@zeroinfluencer I use it for conversations, along shared links and not necessarily bound for them. I can't discuss my work in public at all, apart from very generic details, hence question about using it for work/project _is_ irrelevant for me. But rest is just goes here - twitter is very far behind friendfeed for me. And facebook complements friendfeed pushing it even further.
- A.T.
zerioinfluencer I use it for both
- Jesse Stay
@AT @Jessy - I use FF a lot for project dev with distributed teams - the mix of chat and sharing in private groups has proved amazing. Even team members who have never used FF before have been going "wow" why the hell haven't we used this before?
- zeroinfluencer
To my point - FF has not really been presented as more than a Twitter style app - it's far more than that IMHO. It's a swiss army knife for the web.
- zeroinfluencer
I am new so this read well. I am one of those - why the hell wasn't I here before now. I used to Icq a LONG time ago. Then did nothing for a while. Joined a fan site - LonghornNation.com and met tons of people that many are still very important friends to me - I blogged, read and interacted on forums, met tons of people at real life events. Then that site was shut down and some moved to...
more...
- Paulette Garcia Morris
@zeroinfluencer I use it for both too
- .LAG liked that
I'm still in love with FF as my web swiss army knife too. What should we move to when it disappear? What about Feedoor?
- Opensource Obscure
My new iPhone workflow: e-mail, my6sense, Tweetie and then FriendFeed. Fast to "catch up" this way. Back in SF now. Long travel day.
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Welcome home!
- Anne Bouey
Thanks, Anne! The best solution to jetlag is to pretend it doesn't exist. As Robert Scoble woke me up with his pocket dial before 6 a.m. Paris time, that's the equivalent of before 9 p.m. yesterday PST. Now, it's catchup time.
- Louis Gray
And who needs sleep anyway, right? Still kidless?
- Anne Bouey
Yup. Sleep is a waste of time and unproductive. We pick up the kids tomorrow.
- Louis Gray
Someone needs to take pics of the kidlets when they first spot you and Kristine!
- Anne Bouey
I will forward your request to whomever is in charge. :)
- Louis Gray
Kristine?
- Anne Bouey
If they are to be photoed seeing us, maybe I can phone my mother ahead of time. :)
- Louis Gray
and when are we hearing the LeWeb run down?
- Thomas Power
Thanks, Louis. I imagine the kids will be so excited to see you both.
- Anne Bouey
What would you like to know, Thomas? Want me to summarize in a Cinch podcast?
- Louis Gray
Yes please.
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
Now Is It Facebook’s Microsoft Moment? - http://daggle.com/faceboo...
I'm still thinking Apple will strike to acquire Facebook as this privacy thing is going to hurt them. People are way too sensitive esp. in the US. You guys have more spies than us I guess.
- Thomas Power
At LeWeb, I was interviewed and asked for 3 people to emulate. I suggested @briansolis @thomaspower and @mattcutts. Who are your three? #ff
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No doubt a list too short. I couldn't use @chrisbrogan as he referred me. This also was a diverse answer. Thoughts?
- Louis Gray
from iPhone
I had to think about this one a bit because I'm not sure what the scope of the question is. It's vague, but judging by your answers, I think it’s referring to people who are connected to Social Media. It's hard to narrow down to three, but the first one was the easiest; @louisgray, @fredwilson, and @jasongoldberg. I'm still amazed at what he did last year.
- Michael Fidler
hey man I don't deserve that I am truly honoured thank you. Tx
- Thomas Power
directeur, John Newby, and James Arama
- Itachi
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