Cool pic, but I would have demanded a refund if our wedding photographer had tried to shoot like this, hehe. But my brother, can do whatever he wants with his 5D Mark II.
- Alex Scoble
Oh, join up with me, so joyous and free, and away to old Sherwood hie. For I'm Robin Hood, and I'm very good at avoiding the Sheriff's eye. So we'll trip along merrily, o'er the greensward so gracefully; To trip it, trip it, trip it, trip it, trip it up and down. To trip it, trip it, trip it, trip it, so trip it up and down.
- Otto
If that's a song, I'm going to have to say no.
- Alex Scoble
It's in the country pack, and it is surprisingly difficult. But then I'm a country fan so it was in my sights.
- Joe Pierce
You put Xbox points on your gift registry didn't you
- Rodfather
Yeah, I don't own any guitar songs that are harder than 3 blobs of difficulty. I bought stuff from The Police, The Cars, Rush, Devo, Talking Heads among others.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
ROFL Rodfather, no, I didn't register for Microsoft points, but I did register for Rock Band, but bought it myself when it went on sale for $100.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
I want Rock Band in spanish. Way too many great songs for me to actually sing... it HAS to be at least an equal market than the Country pack.
- Juan Pablo González
Joe, I saw videos of some of those country pack songs, and they looked IMPOSSIBLE.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
They are! Actually in my opinion quite a few of the "country" songs they put out are really Souther Rock, but that gets called "country" nowadays.
- Joe Pierce
Agreed, Juan. In particular, I want some Cafe Tecuba & Molotov songs on Rock Band. Some old Caifanes would be awesome, old Shakira before she started sucking...I could go on.
- Admiral Anika
Umm yeah, if Kid Rock can get play on Country stations, the genre doesn't have much in the way of meaning anymore.
- Alex Scoble
thats the thing, Country is really a bunch of different genres now. Which is why it really grinds my gears when I hear people saying "I hate all country music." Kid Rock has always had a little southern rock in him.
- Joe Pierce
I hate all country music. You knew someone had to say it, hehe...Might as well be me.
- Alex Scoble
Joe's comment sounds a lot like a defense of hip-hop (though Kid Rock has never had any hip-hop in him).
- Admiral Anika
Bawitdaba has some hip-hop in it, Anika.
- Alex Scoble
I'll defend any music any time!! Except for that stuff that Marilyn Manson passes off as music. I still want to punch him in the nose and then laugh as he crawls away crying and wetting himself. I shall then celebrate by playing the Eurythmics.
- Joe Pierce
Cafe Tacuba would be AWESOME in RockBand. Pay attention Harmonix!
- Juan Pablo González
Control Machete would be awesome too.
- Admiral Anika
Welded steel, throwback jack-of-all trades for $400 (frame/fork): runs canti brakes, 650b wheels, short horizontal drop-outs to allow for SS and internal hubs, dual bosses on front and rear for fenders and racks. Will take up to 44mm tires. Been considering this to do a new townie build, but am stuck on the idea of getting a lugged frame.
- Chester
from Bookmarklet
Now there's no reason to go to Costco. Oh wait, yes there is.
- Dave Roth
Bad move for Costco. The big dog in sales is Wal-Mart. Costco doesn't even compare to them. Coca-Cola can easily afford to basically tell Costco to shove it.
- Otto
If coke isn't there I won't even notice. Good for Costco.
- Todd Hoff
I agree with Otto...Coca-Cola would like to sell at Costco, but Coke will find other places to sell beverages. Retailers do better with both Coke & Pepsi.
- Pam Negoro
Otto, how do Coke sales specifically compare at Wal-Mart vs Costco? The one advantage that sellers get from selling through Costco is that the sales are high quantity. If you're in a situation where volume is more important than profit margin (and I'm sure that Wal-Mart doesn't allow its suppliers to have huge profit margins), then Costco is essential.
- John E. Bredehoft
John: I have no data. But Costco has always been a bigger ticket item type place, mainly for rich white people. Found one article on Google that says average Costco shopper makes $74k a year. It occurs to me that they might be harder hit by a brand name loss like this. Coca-Cola is not just Coke vs. Pepsi, consider all of Coca-Cola's product line. I may not care about Coke, but if my store didn't have Dr. Pepper for example, I'd definitely shop elsewhere. What's your deal-breaking beverage?
- Otto
I would say that this is bad news for Coke (http://www.google.com/finance... ) since they are having problems with losses right now...another several percent off their top line definitely won't help them, whereas Costco will be protecting their bottom line with this move.
- Alex Scoble
If it's safe for us to take in 50,000 IU of Vitamin D for short periods of time, why is 1,000 IU the most you see on store shelves? The idea of prescription vitamins is just kind of odd to me, yet they aren't uncommon. My dad was taking prescription vitamins because of his kidneys too.
It's safe in the short term and while you're being monitored by a doctor. The FDA doesn't trust people to monitor themselves and take themselves off high doses like that in the long term.
- Rochelle
I think it's similar to how cold medicine says to only take it for 7 days. It's safer for longer, but if you're really needing cold medicine for 7+ days, you should probably be seeing a doctor. If you're needing 50,000 IU of a vitamin, you should probably be seeing a doctor for monitoring and care along with it.
- Rochelle
Also, some vitamins are considered prescription because that's how you can get some insurances to pay for them. Insurances are, in general, more willing to pay for something that is a prescription than something that is simply OTC.
- Rochelle
I'm not saying we should be able to buy 50,000 IU vitamin D pills, off the shelf, Rochelle, but we should be able to buy something more potent than 1,000 IU...Especially up here in the gray northwest.
- Alex Scoble
Just take 10 of the 1,000 IU pills! BAM, you have 10,000 IU. :)
- Rochelle
Your maths are impeccable, Rochelle!
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Mine is 2,000, but I order it from Lucky Vitamin. I think I've seen up to 5,000.
- Alix Whitmire
from iPhone
Heh. You only really need around 400 IU/day to prevent rickets and osteomalacia (as long as you have functioning kidneys) so 1,000 IU is already overkill.
- Victor Ganata
Well, Victor, in my case 1,000 IU is underkill. :)
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Alex, Vitamin D deficiency is different than taking Vitamin D for prevention of rickets and osteomalacia!
- Rochelle
The idea of vitamin supplements at all is kind of odd to me, absent some medical need. Ideally, required nutrients should come from food.
- LogEx
Ideally every house would have high speed internet and a proper home theater too...oh and everyone would have a high class education...The world isn't ideal.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Yeah, if you eat a proper diet (and you don't have an underlying medical condition) you could probably do quite well without multivitamins. But otherwise healthy people really do still get rickets and osteomalacia in the U.S.
- Victor Ganata
Victor: my doctor told me that as a woman, I should be taking 1,000 IU. with Vitamin D, my doctor said that I could go to Cuba for a week and still not get the dose I need because we wear sunscreen.
- Nathalie, Dreamer of FF
I just took my last 50k D pill last week, I have to have it retested this week. I hope I don't get rickets. :[
- Andrizzle Gizzle
Vitamin D is fat soluable. Can be dangerous if taken in high doses for a long period of time. Those 50K winners are for short term Doctor supervised stuff only..
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
from iPhone
Nathalie, yeah, I actually think the 800-1,000 IU recommendation is assuming you get absolutely no vitamin D from sunlight.
- Victor Ganata
I'm waiting to hear back from the doctor on recent test to see if I suffer from vitamin D deficiency. I'm almost always dealing with fatigue issues, but the past few weeks have been ridiculous.
Here's hoping that's all it is. Also, Whole Foods makes gummy vitamins that are D and calcium. They taste like candy.
- joey
Could it be seasonal? Stress from the wedding?
- Uncle CW™
The doctor can prescribe much higher doses of D than you can get at the store...plus I have a family history of kidney issues and that's where D is metabolized. And yeah, it could be seasonal too. We'll see how the test ends up. I'm also seeing a naturopath next week.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Vit D is pretty cheap stuff so I just take it according to the guidelines at the heart scan blog recommendations at http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/2009.... Might want to just give it a go.
- Todd Hoff
Tad had a really bad vit. D deficiency and the doc told him to just take the stuff from the store... He was taking like 10 pills a day for a while... But it helped...
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Talk to your dermatologist about Narrow Band UV Light treatments, due to Crohns relaed mal absorption I'm always vit mineral electrolyte deficent but the lights have helped with metabolism of the available nutrients
- WarLord
I'd also suggest backing off white flour and sugar. I have horrible problems with fatigue (and allergies) and cutting the flour and sugar from my diet seems to alleviate that quite a bit.
- vicster is...
No, I never did, which means his test showed my Vitamin D as being within normal range. Waiting for my 2nd visit to the naturopathic doctor to see how the labs she gave me turned out.
- Alex Scoble
Gah. I was hoping for you that it was "just" that, since that has such an easy remedy. :/
- Alix Whitmire
Yeah, I started taking 1000 IU Vitamin D pills from Trader Joe's anyhow.
- Alex Scoble
I have heard of a number of people having this lately. One person I know felt tremendously better after taking supplements. Interesting.
- Amy℠
Latest update: Went to my doctor's office to get copies of my latest test results...Come to find out that my Vitamin D levels are indeed low and that he's prescribing Vitamin D (one 50,000 IU pill per week for 6 weeks! 50,000 IU!)...Kind of annoyed that he sat on the results for two weeks, but oh well.
- Alex Scoble
thats why you have to keep calling them...........and spend some time in the sun that will help
- VAL D. Zone
Something like 75% of people in the PNW have low Vitamin D so I'm totally not surprised! Glad you got a prescription to fix it up.
- Rochelle
Yeah, Val, but my doctor's office is usually pretty good about getting results back to me. I figured that if they hadn't gotten back to me in a timely manner that my tests were normal...Now I know not to be so trusting next time. :) Yeah, Rochelle, my levels are seriously low. Minimum normal level is 30 whatevers on the test and I'm at like 18.
- Alex Scoble
Everything else OK, though? Kidneys, thyroid, blood counts, etc.? Hope you feel better soon!
- Victor Ganata
Victor, kidney issues run in the family, which is probably a factor in my low Vitamin D numbers, but my kidneys are still functioning at what most health care professionals would consider "normal" levels
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Alex, Have you been checked for adrenal fatigue?
- Melanie Reed
That's pretty much what the naturopath did
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Me too!! Been playing and having a great time. The physics of multi player is a little odd. Hard to get used to bumping into each other. but still awesome!!
- Rachel Lea Fox
Yeah - we had a few hurt feelings from others moving too fast and not letting others get their Yoshi or power up, etc.
- Jesse Stay
thumbs are SO sore now. Pretty awesome game so far.
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
I need to play it by myself now - playing with the kids was holding me back earlier
- Jesse Stay
I've only owned an original NES (Super Mario, Zelda, Excitebike) and an original XBox (Halo). I'm behind the times. I think Tudor beat me up and took the XBox360/Wii from FF.
- Jim Norris
Omg ZELDA. The only reason why I bought a 64!!!!
- Mona Nomura
I played Super Mario 3 and World, and Ocarina of Time on emulators. I tried Mario64 on the emulator too but it was too hard to control. Battlefrogs and Donkey Kong Country were also fun.
- Jim Norris
I tried emulators but there's something about holding a controller that can't be...well...emulated.
- Mona Nomura
I love it. Feels like a sequel to Super Mario World.
- James Williams
This game is so much fun that my children have all gone completely insane and have forgotten who they are, just as long as they can play or watch this game. Hmmm...need tighter regulations in the home.
- Josh Haley
I finished Level One and got all the big coins. I even beat the big boss in the castle on my first try. I've gained some respect back from the kids. They are playing now after having finished schoolwork, vacuumed their rooms and living room, cleaned the bathroom, taken out the trash... having new leverage is a good thing every now and then. Kind of broke my rule about no video games during the school year, though. Ooops.
- Trish Haley
If you had the choice between the 5 Qt KitchenAid Artisan stand mixer that has 325 watts of power (usually sold by Macys for $299) or the 5 Qt KitchenAid Pro model that is 475 watts of power (usually sold by Costco for $299) which would you choose? Does the power make that much of a difference?
Come now Alex, it's always the one with MOAR POWER
- Mo Kargas
Watts are really a measure of power used, but the Pro models are awfully nice.
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
As a side effect, more wattage usually means a bigger, beefier motor. Bigger electric motors usually last longer and have more torque. DO IT.
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
Why would you get the lower power version? Because you want to buy it on credit? Because it comes in more colors? All of their mixers use the same attachments, so that's not it.
- Alex Scoble
I think you'd usually buy the lower power version because it's often cheaper.
- Rochelle
If you can get a more powerful mixer for the same price, why even ask? Are there any other major differences between the Artisan and Pro models?
- Curtiss Grymala
And you can use credit at Costco, you just have to have one of their credit cards.
- Curtiss Grymala
IIRC, that's a really good price for the 475 watt model.
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
Yeah, that's not exactly credit card openness. :)
- Alex Scoble
from IM
It's easier to return stuff at Costco :p
- Rodfather
It's not openness, but it's available. You could always use a cash-advance check from your credit card company if you want more options. :)
- Curtiss Grymala
And yes it is, Harvey. BTW the $400 Pro model at Macy's is the 6 Qt. 575 watt version...and we aren't talking about that.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
They accept American Express. Honestly, though it's a pain in the butt, I know why they do it .Not having to pay the cc companies a cut of the transaction keeps their costs down, which keeps their prices down.
- Spidra Webster
I've never had an issue returning things to Macy's.
- Rochelle
Yeah, but Costco's return policy is legendary.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Ahh. I don't think I've ever had to return anything there.
- Rochelle
Dammit, now you're making me want one, Alex. I've wanted one for a while, but that was back when I had a job...
- Spidra Webster
I just used mine the other night. I love it, but daggone it's heavy. It's the kind of thing where you really need to have space on your counter just to leave it there (ours, regrettably, is stored under the cabinet unless we're actually using it).
- Curtiss Grymala
Alex, for many things it doesn't matter much, but for dough (especially larger quantities) it really does. The lower powered model will probably struggle a bit mixing up a double batch of chocolate chip cookies for example. If you think larger dough quantities are something you'd like to be able to handle, You might consider something like the Cuisinart 1000w model instead: http://www.cuisinartstandmixer.com/info...
- Michael R. Bernstein
Oh, and some kind of a 'splash guard' will be invaluable. Check to see if one is included/available.
- Michael R. Bernstein
I think I have the Artisan but I thought I had the same model as Rochelle so maybe not. I'm not familiar with what Pro model you're looking at that is the same size, but when we were looking at mixers (and ultimately, mine was a gift so I'm not sure what decision-making went into the choice), I wanted something a bit smaller so that I could keep it on the counter and I liked the shape...
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- joey
I have a Pro, but I've had it for 5 years so may not have the same amount of power. I LOVE it! We choose the Pro over the Artisan because we like the action of the angled lift better than the raised lift. Most people I know choose the Artisan though. Thing is though that I have never met anyone who has either the Pro or Artisan that doesn't love it!!
- Rachel Lea Fox
Go for the Pro model. The extra power will make kneading large amounts of dough a lot easier. The lift bowl is also better.
- Sparky
I have Baking Illustrated and they suggest just getting the 4.5 quart standing mixer if you are a home baker.
- Anna Lynn M.
I don't think that KitchenAid even makes a 4.5 quart dealy anymore.
- Alex Scoble
We have the Artisan and it works great, but I would go with more power if it's the same price.
- Shannon Jiménez
I almost killed my roommate's 375W Kitchen Aid with a particularly thick batch of cookie dough a year or so ago (I did pay to get it fixed) - the repair guy mentioned that the more powerful model wouldn't have had a problem. I'd go Pro if they're roughly the same price.
- Jennifer Dittrich
I have the Epicurean 475W which they don't make anymore. Got it through Amazon using part of my *whispers* School loan way back when. I wanted it because it lifted up and down as opposed to tilting back. I do love it though.
- Derrick
In situations like these, I call the manufacturer. I've been able to use social engineering to get an actual engineer on the line. Sure, it's typically a long call but the advice I get is usually pretty enlightening.
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
Not sure, but I would think that more power would be a better thing.
- Martha
More power - it makes a difference if you are mixing thick doughs, bread doughs, etc., or if you are running it for a long time. Also, make sure you get one with a large mixing bowl/container. You'll want it if you ever make a larger recipe.
- Katy S
YES. GET THE 475 WATT ONE!!! Trust me: I use mine for bread dough, cookie dough, and other heavy-duty mixing/kneading jobs. MOAR POWER = AWSUMMER MIXER.
- Ladybug Heather
I have the 4.5 stand mixer and it's good for most things, but last night, it didn't really handle a double-batch of peanut butter cookie dough. I'd go for more power and getting a bigger bowl. I actually need to acquire a second bowl because I'm sick of washing it in between mixing cake batter and icing. All else being equal, go for the luxury model.
- Sally: ice cube
We have the same one as Derrick. It says Epicurean on it, but seriously don't remember the wattage. Josh got it for me for Valentine's Day one year. Best. Gift. Ever.
- Trish Haley
from iPhone
Amazon also does not have the same Pro model that Costco does...The Costco deal is really hard to beat
- Alex Scoble
from IM
So it comes down to nylon coated tools that are dish washable vs bare metal tools that aren't...less power vs more...tilt lift vs vertical lift...and pour shield vs no pour shield
- Alex Scoble
Now it's no contest...price if you go to Costco is $280 and we have a $50 off coupon which makes it $230. GAME OVER!
- Alex Scoble
I believe tim "The Toolman" taylor (was it taylor?) had a saying about this
- Richard Lawler
I'm going to treat Modern Warfare the same way I will treat Avatar ----- PASS
- Chris Greene
Hell to the naw, I don't have it...Just not all that interested...Right now I'm playing Dragon Age: Origins Collectors Edition. Next combat game I get will be Battlefield: Bad Company 2 most likely.
- Alex Scoble
Some many great games -- so few unmodded Xbox's to dare play online with.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
"hell to the naw"???? Dude. You aren't Whitney Houston.
- Chris Greene
Google Opt Out Feature Lets Users Protect Privacy By Moving To Remote Village | The Onion - America's Finest News Source - http://www.theonion.com/content...
The CEDIA link can get you in touch with the home installer network and I would recommend you get them to consult. If you are looking to start this as a hobby then take a look at some of the links and information above.
- Chris Greene
I've forgotten about 100 more but I will try and rewind my brain for you some more.
- Chris Greene
Anyways. If you have any specific questions just let me know.
- Chris Greene
Wow, thanks Chris! That's a lot to wade through... Excited to have lots of reading though. I'm looking to do my own system... we're doing electrical rough-in in a few months. So I've got some time to figure it out. I'm sure I'll have some more questions for you though.
- SAM
Sounds good. I would suggest you pull more wire than less during rough in. CAT6, RG6, Phone you name it. You won't believe the amount of choices that are out there.
- Chris Greene
Agreed... we may even just wire the snot out of the thing for a system as yet to be invented... not sure if the budget will support the hardware investment before we need to drywall.
- SAM
I had the house wired with a bundled wire which includes 2 cat6 cables and 2 coax cables. I recommend you have 1.5-2.0" conduit put in, so you can change the wiring later if you need to. You can use one of the cat6 cables for two phone lines if you want, although more cat6 is better than less. It is possible to send HD video through 2 cat6 cables, but you then may want more than 2 so you can have ethernet and phone lines too.
- Cristo
Thinking the conduit is a must... Do you have some sort of integrating system running in your house Cristo?
- SAM
SAM, I'm still working on it, so no. The plan is to have a rack of equipment in the media closet where all the wires come into. Right now I have a bunch of sonos for music, 2 TiVo HD XLs, a Wii, two Apple TVs, an Xbox 360, a Slingbox HD, an electric shade controller, a SlingCatcher, and a Xserve Xeon server.
- Cristo
Next project is to get some 2 x cat6 to HDMI boxes to experiment with sending HD video around the house.
- Cristo
sonos? We're thinking of wiring in the shades too and perhaps most of the lights as well... Looking at having it all run off a single desktop somewhere? And I think I'm most excited to have access to the back of all of my componentry without pulling it off a shelf! I miss my Slingbox... and stereo... they've been in storage for just over a year now.
- SAM
Our shades and lighting is controlled by RF, so only the boxes that control them need to be hooked up to a server.
- Cristo
Would like the stereo, lights, TV's, pretty much everything to run through a server... still not sure of the logistics... but would like to be able to sit on the LR couch, surf for a recipe and push it to the TV/Monitor in the kitchen etc... Also, did you do any "green" things with your power? All light kill switch by the front door? Switched outlets for charging devices? Etc?
- SAM
SAM, I'm still working on it. Planning on doing the green stuff, but mostly I just want to make sure I don't get locked into some old tech. Things are changing fast, and although I don't mind spending money, I don't want to spend it on something that won't do what I want in 3 years.
- Cristo
I've seen some of these "home of the future" places, like at CES, but none of it seemed that sophisticated, although some of it clearly requires tens of thousands to implement. I can't help wondering how quickly this stuff will change and drop in price. That why I focused on infrastructure first, instead of getting locked into control4 or crestron.
- Cristo
Sounds prudent... keep me posted if you find any gems... I'm going to start wading through a LOT of research over the next month or 6.
- SAM
SAM, cool. I'm interested in what you find out also.
- Cristo
Nov 06, 2009: Alex Scoble won last week with his guess of 9,999. DJIA closed up for the week at 10,023.42. Last week's guesses: http://friendfeed.com/dow-gue... Please leaver your guesses for next week as comments on this thread and thanks for playing! Week 39 starts here!
"Open Bar -->", if you want to keep your costs down point the arrow in the wrong direction, if you want a real party point it in the right direction.
- Ed Millard
Our bar isn't exactly open hehe
- Alex Scoble
from IM
One (two? three?) ring(s) to bind them both! (loved the "INCONCEIVABLE!" response, btw)
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
"Altec Lansing on Tuesday introduced their USB-powered ulraportable Orbit speaker. The Orbit’s USB cable is used for audio input and power, doing away with the need for batteries and a 3.5mm audio jack. It’s perfect for augmenting your notebook’s tinny speakers with something more powerful. The downside? With only a USB connection, that’s all it’s good for."
- Cristo
from Bookmarklet
I bought one of these for Beti and she loves it.
- Cristo
"The world is much closer to running out of oil than official estimates admit, according to a whistleblower at the International Energy Agency who claims it has been deliberately underplaying a looming shortage for fear of triggering panic buying."
- Itachi
from Bookmarklet
"A second senior IEA source, who has now left but was also unwilling to give his name, said a key rule at the organisation was that it was "imperative not to anger the Americans"" - by Americans I don't think they mean us.
- Todd Hoff
I think it will take a loooong time before that happens. Having said that everyone thought it would be possible before a black president would become president.
- Parvez Halim
Before the first atheist President.. or has that happened already too?
- Rodfather
I think this wiki answer is actually accurate as it pertains to the founding fathers. Masonic tradition which is widely reported as including a substantial percentage of this group also requires belief in a grand architect. http://wiki.answers.com/Q...
- Eric Logan
Many of the founding fathers were considered to be Deists, although you might call them agnostic nowadays.
- Gabe
Véronique, sure. It actually is more clear if you leave off the "hours", except if you don't add the "'s" on the end, it sounds like you're asking twenty-four scenarists. English is not an elegant language. :)
- Cristo
Teach students to use Google and read aloud books to small children? Actually, I think we'll still need librarians to help people figure out how to find information. But they probably won't be using physical books anymore.
- Jess Lee
Don't they call it information science now?
- Louis Gray
There are many subtypes of librarian. I believe most of them will still exist in 20 years.
- Jason Wehmhoener
from iPhone
As long as there are physical structures called "libraries", there will be librarians. Do you foresee that public libraries, the Library of Congress will disappear in 20 years?
- Shakeel Mahate
I dont see academic libraries, public libraries, or other info repositories going anywhere. The job duties may evolve (and they *have* evolved to require more technology skills), but librarians arent going anywhere. Folks are already doing their best to get "library" out of the professional titles of positions and associations, though (ASKPro, anyone?), which saddens me, but it's still...
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- Archangel ωαřмaiden
Haven't you guys seen this episode of Twilight Zone? It's one of the many with Burgess Meredith. You are obsolete. :)
- Curtiss Grymala
from iPhone
Some are leaders in free speech battles and beating back people who want to ban books. When Sarah Palin first became a mayor, it was the librarian who fought her attempts to ban books from the library. Libraries are still priceless in providing computers and network access to everyone.
- Ed Millard
They will be called books and only those books will be allowed view and hold an actually book. Or wait that may have been from a movie...
- Dario Gomez
What warmaiden says. I seriously doubt that in 20 years our world will be so different than it has been for the past 100 years that libraries & librarians won't exist. Unless Terence McKenna was right & the world completely changes on December 21, 2012.
- josh neff, geek at large
But the world has already changed a lot. E.g. many of the people I know who still use libraries go there to borrow free DVDs.
- Cristo
Maybe not in 20 years, but they'll all be replaced by cheap robot labor. As will lots of other jobs.
- Itachi
Good question! 20 years is not so far. Some will have specializations on numeric and archives (<- how to indexe, select, find and sale part of those enormous amounts of online books and docs, also), some will still be the same; some others will keep old books - like pocket format - if you say that, as if there are precious...
- Véronique Rabuteau
Cristo, sure the items libraries collect have changed. Libraries also offer free public access computers & free computer training to the still many people who don't have online access at home. That just shows that libraries are changing, but they aren't going extinct. Libraries aren't solely about books.
- josh neff, geek at large
joshua, I didn't say they were going to be extinct, I was just asking the question. Also, whether there are librarians or libraries are two different questions.
- Cristo
Véronique, I think libraries will turn into physical centers for accessing information remotely. Some might not have any physical books at all, or will just have them scattered around as decoration like a coffee shop. In much the same was as the shift from personal computers to cloud-based computing is occurring, I think we'll see libraries become like sophisticated Internet cafes....
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- Cristo
And it wouldn't surprise me if the title "librarian" was updated to reflect the more modern nature of libraries and their changing role. Anybody have some good ideas for a new title?
- Cristo
Archangel, that along with uniforms reflecting the role would definitely get me to go to the library to check it out. ;)
- Cristo
As long as there are libraries I'll be donating to them... where else can I have kinky nerd sex?
- Lo
Cristo, there are already information ninjas at your library. They just don't let you see them. As for the original question, I certainly think there will be librarians in 20 years, but I'm biased because I plan to be one of them. I think, as others have said, that the profession will continue to change and evolve, but I don't foresee college students learning to find information on...
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- s t e v e
People have kinky nerd sex in libraries? WHY HAVE I NOT BEEN INVITED?
- josh neff, geek at large
Try stroking the books sensually the next time you're there, maybe you'll land an invite :)
- Lo
I think so, but in a different capacity than they probably are in now.
- Derrick
Cristo: thanks. Interesting. Trying to imagine it. Just, yes technology of access, but I think people will always need guiding/advice on subjects and titles. It is exactly what is happening for now with the "I recommend" or Fwd or RT.
- Véronique Rabuteau
And...for the name, maybe librarians ans e-librarians :)
- Véronique Rabuteau
Véronique, true. But this need is not restricted to libraries, and economies of scale suggest that these capabilities will be built into clients and services. Also, as you suggest, their may be human librarians online that assist with finding information, although I think most people will turn to Google first.
- Cristo
But, but, Google is not my librarian :) Will I ask it: Hello, what kind of book do you recommand me? And then, all profile marketer selling books gathered and... zack.... this one is for sure for you, dear customer (Amazon already do it anyway). Don't know... Have to think. Thanks anyway, good opportunity to think and imagine.
- Véronique Rabuteau
And, hum, sorry for the bad english. Will ask Google what type of dictionnary I should buy (no!)
- Véronique Rabuteau
i have no idea what is going to happen in 5 years let alone 20
- Loc
Cristo, while it's true that librarians are increasingly applying their skills towards "teaching the technology of access", branch librarians and research librarians still have unique advantages over ordinary people for finding many types of information. Just being immersed in all of that info, and the queries related to it, gives you a large set of "that reminds me of..." that becomes...
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- Jason Wehmhoener
I'm thinking librarians will increase the number of random sex partners they have, and decrease the number of books they lend. ;)
- Cristo
That could very well be a very successful strategy for increasing library patronage.
- Jason Wehmhoener