Hoping this will lead to an improved/cleaner interface for Facebook...I prefer Friendfeed
- Rick Bucich
so, so sad. I like(d) Friendfeed much more than facebook
- Francisco Kemeny
home run for FF.. Facebook will be able to give developers a treasure trove of data one thing that Twitter is dominating on right now. Twitter has a huge developer community but isn't managing that. Here FB is poised to be huge
- John Furrier
So classic that Robert has the first interview about this...Where's Louis? :)
- Anthony Farrior
How do they plan to mix the teenagers with the geeks?
- Jordi Soler
Amani: I am excited! Facebook has 800 employees and 300 million users. This makes both companies much more important.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
here was a comment on SiliconANGLE blog .. very funny .. "Hey, since we've copied almost every innovation you've had, guess you might as well play on the company softball team!"
- John Furrier
Nice strategic move - Interesting to see how this will integrate and looks in 12 months
- Alex Vermeule (@alexve)
to be honnest I was predicting google offer, then facebook preceed google on this, they are doing well, now rarding FF this is great, the sucess is to know when to pass to something else, the future will make the abtle wave, facebook rude for all geek it is time to code.
- abdellah
You rascal Robert, bet you had wind about FriendFeed and FaceBook merger before today? Yes? Have not used either SM apps. much UNTIL Twitter locked my account. May have been a fortunate mishap as it turns out. Getting to know the beauties of both apps. =)
- SashaKane
do you have a small amount of FriendFeed shares Robert?
- Torsten Eckert
NOOOOOOO. Damnit! I am praying that Facebook doesn't wall up Friendfeed. I was starting to build a site around Friendfeed :(
- beersage
beersage: as Facebook is trying to break their users into a more public world, I doubt that you really have anything to worry about there.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Starting to listen to this now. Hoping you are right, Rob.
- beersage
I hope so to. But regardless, I think that it was in reality necessary for FriendFeed to sell to really put the technology in front of a sufficient number of eyeballs. Facebook is probably the best acquirer that FriendFeed could have. (I would have not felt the same had FF been acquired by Google)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
The thing with Friendfeed though is how I can share things outside of a 'wall.' I prominently feature the FF widget on my site. I'm just concerned of losing that capability as I was tinkering with delivering a new site w/ content primarily running through my Friendfeed account. I am to this day unable to do much outside of the wall. I am unable to subscribe to Fan Page updates in Google reader for instance. That is what concerns me about FB acquiring FF given my goals.
- beersage
Robert sounded quite breathless in that interview. Thanks Robert.
- Roberto Bonini
Wow! I'm in shock. I can't wait to hear this interview.
- Micah Wittman
from iPhone
This deal was about getting Paul and the team and nothing else
- Stephen Pickering
@stephan, are you serious? FB is buying a concept, a technoloie, a structure, a content and a user list
- abdellah
now how could a team that left google resist under a unique perception system, where the leader vision is upon any thing
- abdellah
Unconvincing Paul Buchheit, the team is more exited of being part of bigger story - logical for them to move on
- patrickdh
They want a way to turn their white pages into a yellow pages and the only guy on Earth who knows how to do it, is Paul
- Stephen Pickering
It was only about the technology and the people. Most people are on also FB anyway.
- James Myatt
My guess is that Paul got a tooooooooon of options and will soon be the No.2 guy at Facebook
- Stephen Pickering
Glossing over of that "short term" question by the FF boys. It just seems more about the individuals at FF than it does the users of FF. "Their (Facebook) long term goals" Nice interview, Robert!
- Melanie Reed
Well, it looks as if pass-through of FriendFeed Likes, Comments, etc. to Twitter is down. Will it be for good? Did Twitter do this in response to the acquisition? Or is it just a regular (though curiously timed) hiccup?
- Alex Schleber
this is why your own personal website is always more important than friendfeed, Twitter and all the rest. that's never going anywhere
- Terry O'Fee
from BuddyFeed
Very thoughtful. Embodies a lot of the ideas we have talked about at FriendFeed. The severance process and priority is a bit more front-and-center, though perhaps that is because it is not a problem you have at a company as small as ours.
- Bret Taylor
Now if they could only stop buying popup ads.
- Sam Pullara
That's the first sane example of a policy like that I've ever seen. There's nothing in it that stands out as really dubious to me. The biggest vulnerability is that it requires managers to be better leaders, and capable of really understanding the differences in culture between what they are aspiring to and the norm. What is often overlooked is that in many older rule-bound companies...
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- Robin Barooah
Is Free The Future Of Enterprise Software? Yes And No. {if users value UR offering, you'll make $$..hype model is dying} - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
"MessageLabs, a division of Symantec, said today the presence of shortened URLs in spam has skyrocketed over the past few days and now appears in more than two percent of all spam. The presence of shortened URLs in spam has skyrocketed over the past few days. The company says that the dozens of new URL-shortening services are allowing spammers to evade anti-spam tools that target Web domains known for sending spam. The services also inadvertently help spammers trick Internet users who would normally be wary of domain names like, say, Spammy.ru."
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
So the obvious question is whether there are tools that interpret the root URL after the shortened one does the redirect. Or is a redirect not necessary?
- Mark "DerBingle" J
URL shorteners should provide a 301 redirect to most automated systems, which allows everyone to resolve the URL before serving it. But that's only if they play nice, and spammers do anything but. They could just as easily frame the content (just like the DiggBar et al) to make it especially hard to determine where they redirect to.
- Mark Trapp
Those spammers [shakes her head in bemused wonderment]
- anna sauce
Mark: if you run an email product, it is pretty difficult to follow every link in every email, 301 or not.
- Bret Taylor
Great... I'm starting to think that URL shorteners are more pain than they are worth.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
If following links is too hard, I wonder what the solution will be then: blacklisting of certain URL shorteners, or scoring known URL shorteners higher? That'd be a pretty good reason to stop using them altogether. I guess it'd be pretty trivial to have a dozen more shorteners pop up for every one blacklisted, though.
- Mark Trapp
Bret- what do you mean as an email product? ESP or a transactional email system in your software/web site?
- anna sauce
Yet another reason url shorteners are the work of the devil. Seriously, we need another way for links to break like we need a hole in our collective head. And I have a hard time seeing twitter enabling as a good thing either :)
- Joel Webber
anna: I mean if you are Gmail, you receive billions of emails a day, and following all of those links is practically infeasible (and has privacy implications)
- Bret Taylor
wow, what a messy problem to solve... yikes
- Susan Beebe
Jason: Can you get that to work properly in a posting to Twitter?
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Rishabh: I can't but twitter certainly could if they could be bothered to do so. (notice how Friendfeed handles it? seems to work!)
- Jason Wehmhoener
Jason: So let's say I use Twitter through the text messaging service. I have a limit of 160 characters. How do I get the long URL to show up as a short URL? How do I receive long URLs that don't hog up the space?
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
There are two use cases, really: typing a long URL into a text message and sending it out to Twitter, in which case I really wonder how many people are actually typing in URLs; long, short, or otherwise; when they're texting. The other use case would be receiving URLs via text (so, someone tweeted a URL that you want to see from a text message). In that case, Twitter could set up their...
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- Mark Trapp
SMS wasn't designed for URLs. Fortunately we have other ways of sending messages now on phones that are likely to have modern browsers.
- Jason Wehmhoener
How can this problem be resolved? The amount of spam is rising daily. Is there a way to filter? TRENDS: Twitter Needs Spam Filter, http://hubpages.com/t/98819
- Debby Bruck
Let spam detectors be aware of URL shortening services so that they can detect the blacklisted ones the same way they had been doing it before. Identi.ca expands short URLs - so other programs will be able to do it too. Should there be a Spamassassin plugin for that ?
- Jean-Marc Liotier
There is a video being passed around of a woman dying after being shot in the streets of Iran. You know how to find it. I won't post it. It's just too horrific. My thoughts with her family and those who struggle to be heard.
that's the one Milad was talking about :||||||
- Shandiz
What the hell can we do instead of just agreeing that real time is awesome !
- sami
god. its just one person. today almost 6 ppl died in the streets
- Myri∂m
It's interesting that journalists always struggle to show just how much to show. It's a tough one. Sami: if you aren't in Iran you can't do much other than to declare your solidarity.
- Robert Scoble
I agree with you (I didn't post it). then italian television showed it at 8pm... they suck...
- ezekiel
The only reason a video like that exists, is because people are morbid enough to go watch it. These people are like real life trolls. We should just ignore them, maybe they'll go away. Yea, don't judge me, I mean, we have never tried that, have we? For all we know, it might work.
- Javier Altman
Javier: I don't agree with that. Sometimes you need to show other people the truth of life and death. Here they are showing what really is happening on the streets. On the Internet you can choose which truth you want to pay attention to.
- Robert Scoble
Has anyone stopped to think that maybe passing these types of vids around could be further inflaming an already violent situation on the break of something much worse?? I am all for transparency but, when do we in social media draw a line and say that its not our place to interfere in other countries politics??
- Joe Hall
Maybe can we all decide for a worldwide gathering on a certain date to push our governments to do anything to help.
- sami
the most important channel of italian public tv decided to show the video, at 8 pm, during the news, when a lot of people is watching... i'm glad here on ff we have this attitude, and WE THINK before posting...
- Ivy /composmentis
sami: the worst thing for the US government to do would be to get involved. That will allow the Iranian government to turn the protesters into villians.
- Robert Scoble
Not if governments where pushed into involvement by their citizens, Rwanda, Darfour, Bosnia, This has to stop, you know well that our governments will do nothing if no money is involved
- sami
This is when clicking 'like' is not really appropriate. I've seen some horrid videos on the internet over the years, no matter where the 'line' is drawn it will always be broken. Sad but true.
- Chris Marshall
The Supreme leader chap called Britain (my country) the most evil nation on earth which I thought was a bit harsh.
- David Lloyd
Robert: I don't disagree with the dissemination of information. I think we all have a responsibility to know what is really going on in the world. All I'm saying is that media can be morbid because the media knows that blood, gore and icky stuff grabs peoples attention. It's very sad, but it's very true. And all I tried to say was, maybe the only reason why this crap happens is because...
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- Javier Altman
I was so shocked when I saw that. But in a way it illustrates what is keeping everyone glued to the topic: ghoulish bloodlust, electronically sanitised for the mass market. Meanwhile I'll keep tweeting to encourage a donation to avzaaz.com to pay for an independant exit poll http://bit.ly/q46TU - the only practical suggestion I have come across for those outside of Iran to do something affirmative to try and help this dreadful situation.
- Anita Hunt
this is not interfering joe/ we need your help / we need you all to reflect these films and photos / we need to be heard
- Shandiz
Just watched the video: what a world.
- David Lloyd
Or we do something know to help them now, or our governments will go to war because of the Nuclear threat - Our choice !
- sami
we know iranian gov. is killing people... that would justify not a 'us' intervention, but for sure a UN intervention...
- Ivy /composmentis
from email
Anita: That is exactly my point. Because people consume it, it exists. Maybe if we stopped consuming it, it'd stop existing (or at least become rare). It's just a thought. It'll never happen though, human beings are way too drawn to blood and gore.
- Javier Altman
@Javier I don't agree with you. I was just having this discussion with someone. The media in the U.S. censors tons of stuff because they think it's too much for the American audience. On the other hand, other countries don't censor their media. I know that in Latin America, they show everything because they feel people should understand what is exactly going on. I am not sure if this...
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- Shevonne
The protesters have already been labeled villans. I watched this yesterday when it was broadcast on CSPAN. The crowd chanted "death to America" and "death to Britain". Sadly this clip on CSPAN only has been viewed 104 times according to the counter on the site. http://www.c-spanarchives.org/library...
- Robert Kenney
i just watched the video..and i feel that such videos should be shown so that the world gets to know the real situation in Iran . we cant just continue to be armchair activists ...something needs to be done ..NOW !!
- Ray
I saw it. There are simply no words.
- Chris Baskind
Shevonne: Please understand that I'm coming from a different background, as I was born, raised and still live in Latin America (Argentina and Chile, to be precise). If you saw some of the footage they show on TV here, dismembered bodies after a car wreck for no other effect but to keep people watching, you'd be disgusted. I have not watched this video either. I don't need to watch it to...
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- Javier Altman
@Javier I guess it depends as to the person's motive why he/she is posting it. I think the majority of the people (not going to say everyone cause you never know) are forwarding it so people can see that there is more to the story. The first time I saw the video on here was a Persian FFer, and I don't think she posted it for the shock factor. I think it's so everyone can understand what is going on.
- Shevonne
Javier: I think the importance of this video is to help us conceive of the horror on an individual level. It's so easy to say Iran, Iranians, Iranian Government - to coalesce these ideas into an oversimplified whole. Those oversimplifications allow concepts like "Axis of Evil" to exist. When you are confronted with the harsh reality on a personal level, it's harder to ignore that these are individuals like us with families and friends, who are suffering at this moment.
- Chip Ramsey
Shevonne makes a good point; there is so much disinformation flying around people post pics and vids as 'proof' to the outside world of their actual situation. For example: several hours ago there were reports of a bomb at the tomb of the last Ayatollah but not one pic or vid.
- Anita Hunt
Shevonne: True, I'm not saying people posting it are all doing it out of a morbid sense of entertainment. I just think it's redundant. Maybe I'm too much of an optimist, but I want to believe that people don't need to be shown this kind of horror to understand it. Then again, that's just me.
- Javier Altman
Chip: I'd hate to think that people need to be shown this horror on a personal level to understand how it works, what it is and what implications it has. I don't have to show you a video of me killing your dog so that you'll understand how much you'll suffer if I actually go and kill your dog. Aren't we smarter than that? Oversimplifications do exist and they suck, I'm not going to...
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- Javier Altman
+1 Javier. Just because I can see it, does not mean I need to. Just give me the overview so I can understand the gravity of it without all the gory details. The same reason I have refused to watch the beheading videos from the radicals. I understand what i means to be shot, beheaded, blown up, and have seen enough of this footage unintentionally to be satisfied that I have a grasp of what it means. I get it.
- Robert Kenney
so sad and horrifying may her death and all those involved not be in vain.
- Kim Landwehr
It is a difficult clip to watch - it makes me feel helpless. I pray for those in Iran fighting for their freedom.
- Robert Freeze
Javier: I understand your point and wish that were the case. Let me put it this way, I will be going over to a friend's house in an hour or so. Most of the people there will not be talking about Iran, nor will they care to talk about Iran. 1) because they have negative preconceptions of the region and 2) because they don't want to talk about anything that makes them uncomfortable. This has been going on for me at work as well. My experience has been that very few people are really paying attention.
- Chip Ramsey
@Chris: we need to be heard as much as possible throughout the world. we can't just rely on BBC/ CCN or other news networks!
- Shandiz
Chip: But that's life, for the most part. People generally don't care about things that don't affect them directly. Showing a video won't change that, it'll only make them want to stay away even more -- if they are uncomfortable talking about it, be jumping of joy at the idea of watching a video of something like this, don't you think?
- Javier Altman
Javier: My point is you can't ignore the video. You can't shake the video. But, you can easily ignore my desire to talk about the situation at a party. You can easily ignore Anderson Cooper on CNN running a 5 minute news story about Iran tucked between stories about legalizing marijuana and a celebrity couple getting a divorce.
- Chip Ramsey
just saw the video, may her soul rest in peace and her death not be in vain. I really feel for all the poeple in iran, that there rights to choose for a president are being ignored, and their protests being beaten down.. shame to you ahmejinejad.. excuse my spelling
- Sebastiaan van den Akker
Chip: It's true, you can't shake the video that easily, and I suppose the rest of your argument holds water as well. One thing though, even if you make these people who obviously don't want to get involved at least be aware of the situation, what do we gain? These people are not the ones who are going to go out of their way to complain, to participate, to make an effort from their own...
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- Javier Altman
The video has been published on Facebook with a brief description of the incident that ends with the words, "The film is shot by my friend who was standing beside me. Please let the world know." Initially I was against such footage being shown but if such a video makes the world take notice then so be it.
- Chris Marshall
Chip: maybe you could wear green to the party ;)
- Anita Hunt
Javier: It becomes a matter of peer pressure. An exercise in social psychology. We see it happen every day with politicians and religious leaders. Once a story gets promoted to a certain level, even the people on the sidelines get involved. Anita: Good idea, but that may clash with what my wife is wearing. (joke)
- Chip Ramsey
Chip: It usually happens when it affects that person's own community or country at most. It's rare that the people in the sidelines get involved with something that is so foreign to them. Still, I honestly hope you are right.
- Javier Altman
Saw it almost immediately. Was considering tweeting it, but I have to agree with Robert here. All those interested will find it on their own. I would, however, appreciate it if someone would point me in the direction of the facebook post that tells the story behind the vid. May she and all those who have ever lost their lives standing up for the right to speak or as collateral in any power struggle - rest in peace. Lest we forget...
- Danica Radisic
And so once again the media (real-time this time) is busy weaving and plotting justification to invade another country, demonize another nation (Obama 'world is watching'. Similar warning from then president, Bush, before Iraq invasion). I'm glad I know enough technologists are transforming the world for the better instead of fueling an already inflamed situation. Those who are claiming...
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- Moushumi Kabir
There are those who watch a video for the morbidity of it, there are those who watch because they need to see truth, and there are those (like me) who watch a video because they care about the subject (and had no idea the content would be what it was) There is nothing inherently wrong in posting, showing, or viewing a video. Only the intention behind the action is right or wrong. Many...
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob, I agree, intention is important. Sadly, given our history/record, I can't help but sense a hidden agenda, more when emotions seem to be selective for the same crime based on nation/religion/ethnicity/color, etc.. If not, why are there no tears for fellow Americans: Katrina survivors, homeless, unemployed, etc.?! We all know the agenda is to instill a gov of our choosing. What...
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- Moushumi Kabir
I hope (among other things) to know her name... someday...
- Carlos M. Gomes
carlos, I've heard her name was Neda?
- motownmutt
it is not horrific, it is beautiful and tragic--she is the face of the revolution
- Eleanor Wynn
Moushumi: I agree with you about the desire to interfere (by politicians/military) when we have plenty of issues at home. However, the people here have the desire for the people of Iran to have the same freedoms and voice that we have here. It is our duty to stand with them, and encourage them. Hopefully in doing so, we all succeed, and there is no need or reason for bombing or...
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I've only seen the Techcrunch picture of that scene. Horrific is right.
- George Hall (Australia)
That vid is raw, and real. Its a small representation of what people are ACTUALLY experiencing. We simply aren't used to not having layers of sanitized filters between us and well, life.
- Sean Oliver
Thank you so much, Robert: 'Free speech' means spreading infos 'wisely' and respectfully too..
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Rob: let me quote a fellow American who articulated it best "....It's a sensitive issue in the US, given the ongoing threats of "humanitarian" invasion, whether it be by our military or Israel's. The 24/7 news coverage we're getting is obviously aligned with the perpetual pre-war propaganda effort and an anti-Iran bias that has much more to do with oil, Islam, and the 1979 revolution...
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- Moushumi Kabir
What was I complaining about again? This vid is unspeakable even though I'm failing to be objective about it.
- dhamza
Moushimi: What I would like to see come out of all that goes on this week, is sufficient change that any and all threat of western military action in Iran is removed, once and for all. What is sufficient to do that? I don't know. These protests, if /un/successful at changing the mode of leadership in Iran, will likely lead to intervention. However, if the protests change make some...
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob: why is it our business whom the people of another nation chooses to elect? Our allegiance should be with our constitution, not with any foreign nation. In some countries it's considered treason and rightfully so. Singapore is a prime example: 0 political disturbance and 0 interference in internal politics of other nations. Nothing personal but just to clear my point: Would Robert...
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- Moushumi Kabir
Maryam told me that the name Neda means beautiful voice. I keep thinking of her dad who was one of the ones holding her as she died. It is my worst nightmare to watch one of my children dying. A beautiful voice has been silenced.
- Robert Scoble
The allegiance is not with any foreign nation. It is with /people/ who wish to be heard. People transcend the borders of any nation. My allegiance is for the right of the people to express themselves without being silenced. (cutting off all communications infrastructure silences them!) And as a nation who has suffered the /very same thing/ recently, when one of our own /stole/ an...
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Today when we celebrate fathers day. Please observe a moment of silence and say a small prayer for the father in Iran who lost his daughter.
- Russ Jackson
Robert: It is when I saw that video that I decided I could not just stand idly by.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob: bottom line, there is an agenda behind 'supporting' Iranians. I want my government to focus on domestic issues, plain and simple. I want my fellow Americans to channel their energies in solving domestic crisis, health coverage for ALL Americans, jobs created for the rising unemployed. I want solidarity with these issues not the internal politics of a nation I've absolutely no right over. It's that simple.
- Moushumi Kabir
Want or not, your government is going to continue to worry about international issues. Want or not, your country is on the brink of military incursion into Iran. Would you rather that? Would you prefer us to be completely isolationist? No nation is going to fix all of its own internal ills. If there is any agenda behind supporting Iranians, it seems that it would be a CIA sponsored...
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob: on his day, I'm honoring my dad and following his teachings: cleaning up my own backyard and staying away from hypocrisy/double standards. It really is very simple, try it sometime! :-)
- Moushumi Kabir
I don't feel that I'm engaging in hypocrisy or double standards. I would do the same as they are in my own country. And, if I happened to be in their country right now, I know where I would be. I'm not sure what you think is hypocritical about that. It is every person's right to be heard. I feel it is my duty and obligation to support people who choose to exercise that right, whether or...
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
This is the first time I have been so conscious of Iranian women, defiantly beautiful, with perfect make-up, a shock of hair showing out from under the hijab, they remind me of the Tianamen Lady Liberty and our own Lady of the Harbor.
- Phil Boiarski
Rob: allow me to share my Iranian friend's sentiment and message, "Friends: As a conscientious citizen of the world, I am very disturbed by the events that are taking shape in Iran, the country of my birth. As I have been telling some people in my recent discussions over the situation in Iran -- we all have to be very careful as to what we claim to oppose and what we choose to support...
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- Moushumi Kabir
Moushumi: well said. That's why I totally disagree with USA Republicans who are pushing Obama to do more. He has been perfect on this issue and should stay as quiet as possible. Iranians need to do the hard work here and it needs to continue to be seen as an Iranian issue. My wife still remembers being bombed by Iraq with USA made bombs. Lets not continue to make mistakes as Americans and I hope it all works out for Iranian citizens.
- Robert Scoble
Russ, I will. And I pray for all the fathers who have lost children either through death or divorce. May they be reunited, if not here in restoration then in the Resurrection. May they be granted comfort and peace and hope.
- Melanie Reed
I have to agree with Robert - The LAST thing I want to see in this is US military involvement. Whether that is to step in and be "peacekeepers" or to step in to overthrow the current regime, I don't think that these are admirable or desirable goals.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
And Moushumi, I don't understand why you think that supporting the people's right to be heard is hypocritical, or objectionable. I do not advocate violence, and I do not advocate military conflicts. Peaceful deomonstration is the proper means to change minds permanently. Why should I not support the people's right to do that. Go back and look through my tweets, and see what I think....
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Robert, Rob, I agree with you. As we got nearly the same problem in Madagascar: US, South Africa, other Africans, France (?) military involvement and so on! Believe me, pple just wanna live in -peace-, and those kind of unhealthy buzzes and wishes are simply inadmissible!
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
The Iranian people don't need me to speak for them. But I am happy to help them have the means, and carry their message further. They don't need a "twitter revolution" but if there is revolution, the news of it won't be on CNN, and it won't be in the New York Times, or even on al Jazeera - at least not the news of it happening while it happens. That news will be on twitter, and on FriendFeed. I support people delivering the news.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Also: I truly believe that thought and words carry the ultimate power. If we all sit here and think about, and talk about violence as a solution, it will come to that. If we all sit and think about, and talk about the power of speech over the power of guns, that is what will come to be. Support speech with me. And remember Moushimi, supporting speech is not the same as taking sides. I would support both sides' rights to speak.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Robert I respectfully disagree. The us is the home And beacon of freedom loving people everywhere. It seems to me that most of the protestors want a strong show of support from the us administration. The eu has been much for forceful in their condemnation of the regimes behavior. I am a proud republican and want Obama to so much much more than he has. Like it or not we are accused of meddling anyway so we may as well truly meddle.
- Zachary Adam Cohen
Rob, you said it all! US and European governments can't continue to 'ignore' facts and truths spread on the Internet when their own people are buzzing about them. That's why too many unfair infos can lead to horrible 'mistakes'. Horrible but sometimes wanted or even provoked mistakes! We are talking about billions $$$, but about billions of lifes too!
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
"Gandhi contrasted satyagraha (holding on to truth) with “duragraha” (holding on by force), as in protest meant more to harass than enlighten opponents. He wrote: “There must be no impatience, no barbarity, no insolence, no undue pressure. If we want to cultivate a true spirit of democracy, we cannot afford to be intolerant. Intolerance betrays want of faith in one's cause." [http://ff.im/4g7Oe]
- MikeAmundsen
Zachary, talking about 'home and beacon of freedom', once again I'll try to talk about nothing but just what I know: Madagascar, as an example. Believe me or not, but we in Madagascar have 'notions' of freedom too! We too have deep culture of 'how to protect peace' etc.. We too are Human, we too love our country as you love yours. We have brains (yes we do!) and can recognize it when...
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- Thierry R. Andriamirado
There is a world outside US and Twitter. It doesn't reside in 'color' and has a mind of its own. It's called Asia - http://3.ly/tbE. Will Obama walk the walk as he talked the talk in Egypt? He should know Asia/Arab/Muslim world are watching him too.
- Moushumi Kabir
I'll be in New York until Thursday and am looking for companies and developers to interview for Building43. Rocky Barbanica will be with me too.
- Robert Scoble
ewing2001: yeah, I'm still putting together my schedule, but we're doing a Tweetup on Wednesday evening in Times Square. Want to meet up there?
- Robert Scoble
I was planning on heading to the networking party. You heading to that as well?
- Vin Turk
Vin, I'm not sure. When is that and where, who is hosting it, is an invite required? I haven't gone through all my email yet.
- Robert Scoble
Cocktails + Networking Networking / Cocktails evening event at Touch (240 W 52nd Street) - You MUST wear your #140conf Wrist Band to gain access starts at 7:30pm (this is the 16th of June)
- Vin Turk
If the networking event doesnt groove with your schedule, you can simply tell me when and where and I'll be there and buy the drinks. I know some amazing drink spots in NYC if your interested
- Vin Turk
I will definitely be there. See you there! My phone is +1-425-205-1921 call me tomorrow to meet up with me.
- Robert Scoble
Tweetup on Wednesday sounds kewl, but i have to work until 11PM EST. will follow u updates for possible after-party meeting or still over there on 52nd ;
- ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
Chock up another time I wish I was at a conference, is the friendfeed/tweetup open to non conferenceers... 10pm is a little late, may have to pass this time around, early birds miss the party :D
- Mark Essel
We can do breakfast on Thursday, if that works better. We are staying at the Marriott in the financial district.
- Robert Scoble
I have no $ for the conference. Breakfast on Thursday at Marriott sounds perfect, but also is the meetup supposed to be today Tuesday nite or Wednesday? i'm off-off tonite ; Hope to see you at one of the opportunities ;
- ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
Breakfast Thursday could work (Thur/Fri are my "free" days). I'd be interested in chatting more about where you want to go with building43 (and how I can pitch in)
- Mark Essel
Location based aggregated travel info, down to the street level. I want to be able to instantly know historical facts, reviews, tips, etc. about the building I'm looking at right now.
- Jason Goldberg
A user-curated/voted guide to the best expert advice on anything.
- Jason Goldberg
dont these all exsit or are possible today, bringing together lots of sites... whats stopping us doing these now. is it just the user interface?
- Nigel Walsh
that said, I like your idea.... we should have a news network that starts with positive news!
- Nigel Walsh
@Nigel --> it's all doable with stuff that's out there. That's the best part of where the net is right now. It's all online, now we get to build cool services to make sense of it.
- Jason Goldberg
Jason, this is an interesting idea. Regarding the "expert advice" thing, I would love to get a good version of product recommendations, but in a "wizard" format. Look at HDTVs, I should be asked questions about size, price, picture quality and maybe one or two other things and it should give me the best fit.
- Rob Diana
Jason: the first two could probably done pretty easily as Mahalo apps.
- Christian Anderson
Seems to me mashup apps are going to get huge. The companies that have the most open APIs with deep access to information will win the next round.
- Christian Anderson
Further speculation: of the 100, 49 will be localized- or verticalized-search related. Another 49 will be mashups that tie econmerce to existing search tools such that the commerce gets more targeted and powered by one's social graph.
- Christian Anderson
I think the people driven social space needs a metric. Something portable that identifies users contributions and influence. Something peer mediated.
- Richard Zeidel
Christian, I hope you are right about mashups being huge, that would help me a lot :) However, I am not sold on social ecommerce. Product reviews are good, but the "power of the network" or social graph may not extend well with commerce. The social graph tends to use the idea that several people in your network are experts in something. Commerce does not work quite in the same way.
- Rob Diana
Richard, I do not know if peers want to "mediate" as much as knowing how they rank. It is the selfish part of social that drives that. Once you start listing or ranking people, you get the whole a-list and a-list backlash problems. Just look at what is happening with Scoble's list today, http://friendfeed.com/scoblei...
- Rob Diana
Point your smartphone or iPhone at a house or building, and get all the background information. (This is potentially scary -- one could get all the background information on the residents or inhabitants of the house or building. This is doable now -- the technology and data are there.)
- Sean McBride
One startup idea I wish we had was a unified communication platform. Basically, email, IM, twitter, friendfeed or whatever hook into one big "thing". This could probably start as a web app, and branch into mobile and and thick client apps as well.
- Rob Diana
Rob: I'm more hopeful on the ecommerce side. For example, I have several photo geeks in my social graph. I'm thinking about buying a DSLR. They know me and suggested a D90. It's not so hard to imagine someone suggesting where to buy one or even selling me theirs over ff or whatever.
- Christian Anderson
I agree with Rob. "a unified communication platform" could make life way easier for me. Streamy comes close but I am struggling with the interface. another startup that could be helpful is one that does location based social networking no matter where you travel...couchsurfing, socialect and localwoot do similar stuff. i wish the three could be combined :-)
- Freddie Benjamin
Rob: Here's the disconnect for me. The Social Space is about the individual and the individual's positioning is based on their own packaging, contributions etc. Influence is a key factor - Twitter started with followers, Facebook has friends, LinkedIn has connections. But qualitative data begs the SFW - so fukin what!?! We need a measure to understand people and their place - and i...
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- Richard Zeidel
Point your smartphone or iPhone at *anything* and get all the background information. Think about that. Products at stores. Places. People. Documents. Vehicles. Any physical entity.
- Sean McBride
@christian -- *could* be done via something like mahalo but i think they are more pure play apps. the first is more of a killer iphone app. I have been traveling so much lately that i want something like this. A service that literally can tell you everything interesting you need to know about the exact place you are at right this minute. The info is already out there online, it just...
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- Jason Goldberg
Nigel: In keeping with your positive news network idea, I'd love to do a series in manner of The Soup... a possibly humorous weekly recap of web culture news (from trending topics and blog top stories to start-up coverage and web series highlights).
- Sarah Crisman
Book Recycling. I'd like to see a method developed that would remove the printing from old books and reprint new text..
- Bill Bittner
Jason -- this idea of yours has occurred to me many times, so naturally I think it's brilliant. :) One of the tricks would be to prioritize the mountains of information associated with any given place.
- Sean McBride
Richard -- got it: fantastic link to the work of Pattie Maes and Pranav Mistry at the MIT Media Lab.
- Sean McBride
Death Alarm: Follow my online activity via RSS feeds (blog, twitter, facebook etc..) to determine if I am dead!, and if so, activate my afterlife macros. Macros include: sending my letters (e-mails) to family, updating statuses("farewell everyone"), posting blog. Death will be triggered by configurable idle time counter (no status updates for 30 days for instance), followed by e-mail...
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- denizoktar
@sean I would love to know the history of my house - I have a picutre from 1926 when it was just a field, yet a year later it was built... who by, who lived here -
- Nigel Walsh
how about a feature request so that when you comment @nigel or otherwise it alerts you on Friend Feed!
- Nigel Walsh
you know I was thinking earlier - Monday, better Detox, would love to use twitter for global support and tweet what I eat - and everything I tweet, automatically get counted for me and emailed to me every day against a plan.. I rushed back to the PC and someone had done it - almost identical to my thoughts... either Im getting slow or someone has read my mind!
- Nigel Walsh
@Rob - Isn't this Digsby or something similar - the only thing that misses is Skype. Im also doing a lot of work with people like Cisco right now and they have some very cool UC stuff out or coming out - linking Presence and various other API's. Im doing this as part of an Enterprise Mashup - but this could easily be consumer based.
- Nigel Walsh
Twitting credit card. Choose which kind of activities with your credit card to be twittered in your account.For instance: Visa, please twit everything I eat.(Inspired by Nigel) Whenever I buy a food, it will be twittered. (I am assuming credit cards keep track of each item bought. Do they? Here they don't)
- denizoktar
One important start up - web 2.0 for education - there are people in the field but it is not "easy yet". Education is inherently conservative and slow to change - something stupidly simple that would allow/teach/train educators how to use and be successful in web 2.0 would be a great startup. Heck i'd even invest in that one.
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Another important start up - portable health care - in that people can have an electronic version of their health care records, everything that they can carry with them. Personally it should be implanted, on a special card, and be very secure, up datable. The fun part would be dealing with people's MRI's, and other imagery/telemetry systems.
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
A critical piece of the social web is status/rank. All the successful plays have some method of measuring one popularity/authority.
- Christian Anderson
A just for fun startup - a true and reliable way to rank internet success, while we have ffholic, twitterholic, compete, quantcast, and other systems, where is the one that ties all this together, is reliable, is accurate, and can not be gamed?
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Jason: yep, a location-aware iPhone app from mahalo could do what you want.
- Christian Anderson
Dan: isn't that internal conversion tracking tools? Or were you wanting to measure other sites?
- Christian Anderson
this probably exsits (someone let me know if it does) but when I comment on blogs I want it to update FF automatically - eg Disquss...
- Nigel Walsh
Ok. try this one on for size. I'm gonna create a website where every feature, including the first thing we build, is decided by a weekly vote of our users.
- Jason Goldberg
I'd like to see a location based social network built around graveyards. You'd create a profile and reserve a physical plot of land and be buried there when you die. Your tombstone would display random status updates you posted to the web throughout your life. And you could look up your dead friends graves on google earth. I've thought about this!
- Jon Gosier
give me a chip no bigger than a credit card which recharges my blackberry in 10 minutes
- Jason Goldberg
an online incubator that turned an idea(s) into a working site in days not weeks or months..
- Nigel Walsh
Days? Let's throw something together, halfassed, let it go down all the time while we get it working over many years. Days would be great, but if you want something good, you can't throw it together in days.
- Dean Clark
I'd like to see a mashup that would work for open networks like twitter, digg, friendfeed etc. that would allow community walls. a block would trigger a whole community to block the same person till a person within the community unblocked. open networks are dying because people don't want to comment on threads with people that they know they don't like. it could be voluntary. we would call these "Unions" and you would have to agree to be a part of one and you could always leave.
- Noah David Simon
Some great ideas here. Really like the unified communications idea.
- Gavin
How about a startup that encourages hobbies for school aged children
- Anthony Farrior
or a startup/networks for artists and animation. Perhaps something that has online tools and copyright ownership. For an extra fee provide help with networking and distribution.
- Anthony Farrior
or a start up like peek that provide gps and text communication between parents and kids
- Anthony Farrior
or a start up for upcoming clothing designers(not tee shirt stuff) where,again, for an extra fee, networking and real store distribution is provided.
- Anthony Farrior
last one, someone PLEASE make me a mobile video phone...As in "Hi yes, i can hear you and see you."
- Anthony Farrior
A free 'app' that helps re-educate those displaced by the Internet / automation / tech revolution.
- Charlie Anzman
Jason, this would be a great idea for a room here. You could create an identical one on socialmedian and import the RSS feed from it over here. If I have one criticism about friendfeed, it’s that so much of what is shared here, winds up in the rear view mirror, and is quickly forgotten.
- Michael Fidler
I can see why you would like a location based service like the one you described. There’s something like it on the iPhone, but I tried to find the name of it on Google with no luck. Additionally a lot of information just became public which would help with such an app. I would like something along the lines of what Rob mentioned, "A unified communication platform". I have a few more ideas but I need to find some info. first.
- Michael Fidler
Jason, there’s a site like the one you mentioned about user decided features also. Loic used it to decide what features to add to Twhirl. It’s called Uservoice http://bit.ly/ykT5
- Michael Fidler
We've already started a series of hyperlocal "best of Twitter" city sites like http://BreakingLANews.com. It's a grass roots initiative that provides these city templates free to community hubs and groups in each city, down to towns like Chico, CA http://ChicoBreakingNews.com. It's a unique way to propagate a new hyperlocal marketing model that, unlike sites like Topix, directly involves members of the community.
- Pat Kitano
Expanding on the UC idea, I was thinking someone could write a connector for twitter that in essence links twitter to all other chat clients, ie if you tweet msn:ndwalsh then you chat with me.. Same for skype:nigelwals, icq: etc etc... The ultimate comms platform
- Nigel Walsh
@michaelfidler: yes, we use uservoice at XING. It's a great tool! What I'm talking about is using a tool like uservoice in a whole new way, to decide everything from the first line of code onwards.
- Jason Goldberg
Hmm I work on a location based iPhone app and unfortunately the GPS is too often not accurate enough to pinpoint the building you're in but can usually narrow you down to a 100 meter area. Also we need a magnetometer on the iPhone to do any accurate pointing (but it's coming in june they say...)
- Raj Advani
Raj, the other option would be to provide users a 3D map of nearby buildings so that they could use their human intelligence to find their correct location. But that might be hard to implement in an iPhone app. ;-)
- Bruce Lewis
Nigel Walsh, Backtype will import all your comments on blogs to FF. FF is even smart about not duplicating your Disqus items here.
- Bruce Lewis
Haha Bruce I was going to say wait a minute...
- Raj Advani
I like Thomas Hawk's idea of starting a company to comb through old game shows and then selling the DVDs at outrageous markups to the original contestants or their family. http://thomashawk.com/2005...
- Davis Freeberg
One of my weird ideas: Create a User Profile Management Site that allows users to create / update a common "User profile" (could have multiple "personality" profiles - work, personal, family, etc). The profile site updates would push out to a gazillion other sites and update user profile settings with each update. API adoption by a number of other apps is a must, obviously. The idea...
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- Susan Beebe
Distributed Indexing (Search Engine, Classifieds, Auctions, Real Estate) Like MLS for web directories / search engines.
- Matt Robson
@Susan I've been thinking of something like that for a while.
- Gavin
@Susan, @Gavin something like chi.mp maybe?
- Dragos Ilinca
Do we really need another 100 startups? I'd rather see one or two excellent startups come through and form their place on the web then seeing 100 coming through and all burning. Some of the ideas listed are pretty interesting and it would be cool if some of them were implemented although I'd like to see a few of the ideas merged together to see a more feature rich and useful service for users.
- Nicholas James
I'd really appreciate some feed back on the idea I stated above. I think it addresses a very serious issue in making "open" networks acceptable to the mainstream. I'd really like to hear from some tech people if it is feasible: making open networks acceptable for more people http://ff.im/3i7y9
- Noah David Simon
Coin-based economy for kids to help them skirt the issue entirely of having to ask parents for their credit card to play online games. Coins are kid money (and their parents nuisance money). Let's get coin value translated to online money and watch the revenue pour in.
- scott epstein
I want an app that will accurately predict the closing price of the Dow for any given day in the future. I know it’s not realistic, just call me a dreamer.
- Michael Fidler
Jason, I was thinking about your idea today, and that would be an interesting experiment. You could call it Tabula rasa. It’s definitely worth trying.
- Michael Fidler
I had this startup-idea: http://prezi.com/20331/view/ but I droped it. Now I have another one: 1. Start a communities for science & business topics, 2. provide Conference-Life-Streams with Twitter-Comments as usp like this: http://www.ustream.tv/channel..., 3. Provide further information like news, topic-monitoring (twitter), publications-research, 4. Track the use...
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- www.louis-e.de
oh, it's a bit similar to social median, I see ;-) Didn't know that before, sorry. But I can't find info-portals with meme-tracking-technique there. And no conference-streaming. So will built your competitor, haha...
- www.louis-e.de
Just in case people really liked the "unified communications platform" idea, I believe it is now called Wave, from Google (http://wave.google.com/).
- Rob Diana
Nother idea for startup: when riding public transport, service sends notification when friends are on the same train/bus etc.
- André Gallinat
You were right on the money, Rob. Nice Job!
- Michael Fidler
A Google Wave app that integrates with Google Health to provide real-time healthcare between Payers and Providers
- Jesse Stay
Good feedback for me. We are working on this stuff. Agree with it all. What's fun is Compete shows us growing much faster than Techmeme.
- Robert Scoble
"Maybe someone else can figure out precisely what's up. But to me, it appears that Harbaugh is telling the Stanford community one thing ("I love this place and am going to stay") while telling NFL teams another thing entirely ("If you want to talk about a job, I'm interested")."
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
I hope this is just a negotiating tactic for Harbaugh. Every time we get a decent coach, we lose them in a couple of seasons to a higher bidder...
- Bret Taylor
Phew: http://myespn.go.com/blogs... "Responding to speculation he's a candidate for several NFL head coaching jobs, Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh released a statement late Tuesday saying, "I would like to unequivocally state that I am 100 percent committed to Stanford and I look forward to leading this football program for years to come.""
- Bret Taylor
Until all NFL vacancies are filled I would guess that Harbaugh's statement can best be interpreted as follows. "I would like to unequivocally state that I am 100 percent (for now or until something else really interesting comes along) committed to Standford and I look forward to leading (or leaving) this football program for years to come (or not.)"
- AJ Kohn
Shouldn't they get rid of the smog first? =)
- Beau Liening
Interesting news. They have leading wind-power companies in China, using European parts and know-how. They are competitive regarding quality, price and delivery time. Have you seen the new vertical wind-power turbines in action?
- Martin Lindeskog