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How long does it take Apple to approve and publish an iPhone app? Hearing it takes weeks for some.
Baard @ Pixum liked this
The Touch DJ app took forever before approval & there has to be bodies buried somewhere right or wrong:(
- Roney Smith
Our MouseWait Disneyland app was looked at within 14 days then Apple wanted a minor change, then it was approved approx 14 days after we submitted the change, they say that they are turning approvals out in 14 days on average - it took us 28 days. Our other app, Amazitter, was approved in exactly 14 days.
- Kelly Johns
Wintertime Enchantment Holiday Lighting Sleeping Beauty Castle http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Glad you liked it! We should be posting more videos soon, hope to see you in the Live Chat Lounge!
- Kelly Johns
from email
Video of Tiana's Showboat Jubilee http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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The video is down
- Carlos Estrada
from iPhone
I actually can see it, try clicking direct on the youtube link instead of the picture and it should take you to the youtube page, let me know, thanks!
- Kelly Johns
from email
Has anyone tried this? Kensington Battery Pack and Charger for iPod; iPhone 1G, 3G http://www.amazon.com/exec...
Mom uses that, I think... does it work for the touches or just the iPhone? Thanks for sharing! McKenna
- McKenna Johns
from email
Yes it works for the touch too!
- Kelly Johns
from email
KOST's Disneyland Private Party Contest - http://www.kost1035.com/pages...
Can we sigh up?
- McKenna Johns
from email
yep I signed us up, have Mommy do it too!
- Kelly Johns
Nicholas Cage at Disneyland - http://qik.com/video/3425175
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Nick Cage was getting mobbed at the Silhouette Studio on Main Street - he was out with no escort and once people realized he was there, he could barely get out!
- Kelly Johns
Check out the top Disneyland blogs in the world - all on one page updated real-time! It is on the right bar of http://mousewait.com/
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- McKenna Johns
from email
Thanks McKenna and thanks for all of your help and prayers, you are really helping out on this project!
- Kelly Johns
from email
Anyone know how to filter out bad words from posts in a Group? I am trying to publicly display a FriendFeed Group that has a twitter search (for all ages) and I want to filter out the posts where people drop the F-Bomb and other words not suitable for kids...thanks!
Holly Rae, FFer, Mike Chelen and Владимир liked this
Just responding off the top of my head & this may not work for you... I have worked around this by self selecting relevant tweets themselves and adding them with a bookmarklet to their own RSS Aggregator (which could be Google Reader, Delicious, or Friendfeed)... some other search tools may be helpful for you as well http://www.toprankblog.com/2009...
- Holly Rae, FFer
hey that is a good idea Holly - I actually added negative words to the twitter advanced search and then imported that feed URL into friendfeed and it worked, thanks!
- Kelly Johns
Another way to look at is to do a FriendFeed search on the group, and add the - operator to any words you don't want to show up. So, let's say you want to show posts from the group example-group and you want to make sure the words fudge, shoot, and jerk are not shown, you'd search for "group:example-group -fudge -shoot -jerk" without the quotation marks.
- Mark Trapp
Cool, Kelly and Mark - I appreciate hearing what works - I can share that with the educators I work with.
- Holly Rae, FFer
Tag the posts either #worksafe and #nsfw, or #ratedg and #ratedr then filter by those tags in search. If you are the topic owner, you can then either moderate or change / remove the tag.
- Mike Chelen
I put a twitter search RSS feed into a Group hoping that it would show Twitpics and other pics in the feed, but since FF links to the twitter status URL instead of showing the entire tweet in the Group, it doesn't work. Does anyone know how to get around this? Thanks!
Kol Tregaskes, Mitch and Mike Chelen liked this
A Yahoo Pipe might do it, but I'm no RSS plumber so I can't help you there, sorry.
- Mitch
When you add it to FriendFeed use the service type "Custom RSS/Atom" and check "Display entries as messages (no link)".
- Benjamin Golub
Hey thanks Benjamin that worked, I appreciate it! You can see the feed here http://friendfeed.com/mousewa...
- Kelly Johns
from email
Apple Yanks The Cord On GV Mobile. Is It Trying To Kill Google Voice On The iPhone? - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
Andrew Terry, Kazuya Yokoyama, vijay and 14 other people liked this
Sean Kovacs, the developer behind the popular app GV Mobile, has written on his blog that Apple is going to be removing his application, citing the fact that it “duplicates features that come with the iPhone”.
- Joshua Schnell
from Bookmarklet
And they discontinued VoiceCentral as well. http://www.riverturn.com/iphone...
- Christopher Harley
Crap! I totally forgot to download it... now it's gone... :(
- Walt Ruppar
They're afraid that someone will call and leave dirty, dirty voice mail that a 2 year old might hear.
- Internet's Tad
At least they won't pull the app off my phone. In the cab business I use my GV # to screen call backs from drunken Frat dorks whom I'd rather never have my real number. But I still need to reach them when they're one among dozens of Von Dutch hat wearin' oglers at the strip club. TMI? Well now you know.
- Christopher Harley
what the hell apple. The iphone is a tool that i paid for who r u to tell me how to use it!!
- Tom Searing
from BuddyFeed
Thank god for Appulous.
- Adi
Apple is making it so easy for me to chose the Google phone from t-mobile next month.
- dave burke
Yikes!
- Nicholas Kreidberg
Total BS! I wrote a post that covered a bunch of these issue about a week ago (http://thenextweb.com/2009...). Apple might as well block my .mac account from being able to be accessed on a Windows machine.
- Mike Bracco
I have GV Mobile - tonight I was using the Google Voice web version on my iPhone and it was actually faster and better than GV Mobile anyway. It even showed me calls that GV Mobile left out. It is very troubling, however, how Apple pulls apps for their own benefit, as this hurts developers and users.
- Kelly Johns
WTH Apple!?
- zsafwan
It was apple.. just reading the article my bad.. I thought do Google was releasing there own app though...
- Sebastiaan van den Akker
+1 Dave Burke. I was torn between the iPhone 3gs and the new HTC Hero... The way Apple is reinforcing the walls around their garden makes purchasing decisions like this a little easier.
- Andrew Terry
Confirmed: web based email wins over desktop - http://thenextweb.com/2009...
LouCypher, Devon Govett, Thierry R. Andriamirado and 74 other people liked this
Kind of surprised, 24% still use Outlook (express) or Thunderbird or the likes to read email?
- Nik
Not for me yet :) - I think this has a lot to do with the people who read lifehacker and the type of user they likely are. I am very much a geek but have stuck with Apple's mail b/c I use the same machine all the time (work+personal) so it's less of an issue.
- Mike Bracco
I use both *shrugs*
- LANjackal
I use outlook for my Y! and gmail accounts.
- David Cook
from fftogo
Not surprising especially considering Lifehacker's audience. To be fair GMail accounts for just over 10% of webmail users. Yahoo is still the king of webmail. http://weblogs.hitwise.com/us-heat...
- Adi
I only use gmail via my cellphone since it has push, otherwise, thunderbird on the desktop, tho, when I need to find an old email, it's right back to gmail for search.
- Richard Lawler
No way. I'm a mail hog and will always want to be able to access/review mail even when I'm offline. Hate the delay scrolling mail when I want to get to something a couple of months ago
- Rick Emery
from twhirl
@Rick scrolling mail? But with gmal there's no need for that - a quick search and you're there
- Zee.
Yup, I would NEVER switch but as IT guy I keep walking into people who have never used a desktop mail client... times are changing!
- Gerard van Schip
I use Outlook (full version) at work to access our Exchange-based E-mail. It blows away any webmail experience I've tried. My personal E-mail is GMail, which has a not-so-hot IMAP interface, so I don't try to use a desktop client for GMail. However, my GMail needs are like 1% of my work needs when it comes to E-mail, since personal is much more things like IM these days rather than E-mail.
- Christopher A. Wichura
I use Outlook at work (desktop) because they force us to. We have the web version of Outlook, but to get the optimal experience I have to use IE (blech) or IE tab (also blech). For personal mail, it's all Gmail, all the time for me.
- cecily
I still use a desktop client. I work mainly on my laptop and it's very important to have offline access to email. I don't have access to wifi everywhere I might need to get into my email.
- Vaughn
If I could get all my old mail [lots of mail] out of entourage into my recent gmail apps account then I would exclusively use the gmail apps. When I think about it, I'm rarely offline. Horses for courses I guess.
- 1x29
You can connect to gmail with IMAP. Create another account in Entourage and drag all the email over from one account to the other. That's what I did in Thunderbird to copy stuff from my IMAP server. I tried doing this in Evolution, but Evolution blows any kind of mass email management.
- Andy Bakun
At home I stopped using Thunderbird about 5 months ago and never looked back. At work I use outlook, but also use NEO Pro to make it "usable"... http://www.caelo.com/
- Vince DeGeorge
I did know that :). I can check my mails from wherever I want, and there is nothing better, if you have 3 or more computers you work on. And with an Android phone it's even better.
- Ryo / Fuck Facebook
Outlook is horrible, Gmail runs circles around it, it is a crime that Microsoft actually charges money for Outlook.
- Kelly Johns
google fails miserably on a coupe of fronts... good examples? contact management and calendars, for starters. I use it for personal mail but I really don't see it supplanting outlook in businesses who actually use outlook for its strengths until stuff like that is improved drastically. I still hate troutlook though :)
- mjc
Personal preferences cannot be “confirmed,” and needs vary among users. I swap between desktop and web email when the time calls for it. Web is certainly convenient, but desktop is quite a bit more powerful. I cannot easily select 20 random photos from iPhoto or Windows Explorer and have web-friendly copies automatically created and attached to a Gmail message. But I *can* do that with...
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- David Chartier
I'm a programmer, a sysadmin, and an office IT guy, and I switched my domain over to gmail a few months ago. As for off-line access, gmail can go off-line if you install Google Gears.
- Andy Bakun
David Chartier, you CAN do this with Picasa and GMail without a problem. Totally integrated. No problem, I do this often.
- Ryo / Fuck Facebook
I'm loving using Gmail for all of my POP3 accounts.
- Jeremy Campbell
from twhirl
83% of statistics are made up on the spot
- Bwana ☠
I use Apple's Mail client for most of my mail purposes, but I will go to my browser as well. Though, in all honesty, my primary means of handling email are through my iPhone.
- Mike Nayyar
Attention grabbing headline for sure, but LH readers are not your average Joe. Nevertheless, the shift to web-based email among non-enterprise users is quite apparent, if you see how Thunderbird has lost its shine!
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
I agree totally. In the past year I have switched entirely to web based. Love it.
- Drew Lucas
I used to use a desktop client on my junkbox, a few years ago, and ended up removing about 300MB of mail from my GMail account since I'd configured GMail to automatically remove stuff after retrieving it via POP3. Now, I just use the GMail web UI, for what it's worth. Sadly I've lost all that mail, after reinstalling numerous OSes on the said machine, but it's not a big deal. :(
- Tyson Key
I use Mailplane so which one am I? Desktop or web?
- Parvez Halim
The reason for this is portability and flexibility. Personally I use both but the big reason I use a desktop client is to offload mail I want to keep on to my pc.
- Rob Cairns
From reading through this thread and personal experience, one of the main reasons users are still attached to their desktop clients is for offline access. But, as many of the more knowledgeable readers know, Google, Yahoo!, and others are looking to make this offline access possible from your web browser. Google has implemented and tested Gears with several products including Gmail....
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- Kevin Mohr
I recently switched over to Gmail's web-based email and I'm not looking back. Webmail FTW!
- Amir
I would use gmail...but I run many different web sites from which I need to email customers/site visitors. Gmail won't allow me to send email from a POP3 account without saying "on behalf of <my gmail account name>" in the from field. This isn't acceptable for how I run my different businesses and websites. Anyone know when Google is going to fix this?
- Justin
Justin: I got over this by managing my email with google apps. I'm not suggesting its working out perfectly but it does operate my emails as per the domain not 'on behalf of'.
- 1x29
@Adrian, thanks for the tip. Haven't done anything with google apps to date. Will look into it.
- Justin
I've recently made the switch to Gmail too. Really enjoying the filters and labels, and built in Google Talk. Not looking back yet :-)
- Jalada
"google fails miserably on a coupe of fronts... contact management and calendars, for starters." - Exactly. If "Outlook" = "Email and nothing else," you don't need Outlook. Comparing GMail to Outlook is incorrect - compare Outlook to Gmail, Gmail Contacts, GMail tasks, Google Calendar, etc. I use Outlook on my Google Apps domain email, but Gmail's Contacts leave a lot to be desired.
- John Craft
I still use Windows Mail at the moment only because I have it set up exactly how I want it - this could change in the future
- outofmyarse
Okay, but I still prefer a dedicated IMAP server. 'Control', less bandwith usage.. and it's IMAP ;)
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
@hannah: You can route multiple email addresses through Gmail.
- CannonGod
Does anyone here use Google Notebook? If so, I know that they won't maintain it any longer. But will they delete it completely? Would be nice to know if I should continue to use it or just move along.
Kelly Johns, Jammy Lee and Tanath liked this
I still use it but I don't know what it's future will be. I don't want to move on because Notebook, in addition to being easy & super-useful, has the added convenience of using the same Google logon as gmail, calendar, docs, etc.
- Chuck Kahn
Maybe Friendfeed should make a Notebook.
- Chuck Kahn
Yeah that's what I like too. That I don't need to log in to another web service, I like to have everything under the same roof.
- Patrik Johansson
I loved Google Notebook. AFAIR they announced that they will keep the data and accounts for existing users until a final notice, but won't allow new registrations and won't provide any new updates/bugfixes. I recently moved all my notes to Google Docs using a single document for each notebook with headings to split the content. It works well, but it's not quite as snappy as Notebook. At the end of the day I still have my notes available everywhere so all good.
- Ivan Zlatev
switch to evernote. i think they have a importer as well.
- lemuel
lemuel: Yeah I use Evernote occasionally, but I liked the simplicity of GNotebook. Evernote is just so much.
- Patrik Johansson
Why doesn't Google Docs create a "notetaking" browser plugin that saves the result to a doc (instead of to Notebook)?
- Chuck Kahn
Switched to Ubernote
- LANjackal
I think they are no longer offering support for it but letting people who have accounts already continue to use them indefinitely: http://googlenotebookblog.blogspot.com/2009... There are lots of alternatives if you're looking for them.
- Lindsay
Evernote all the way. I was an avid G Notebook fan and my switch to Evernote has been seemless. Evernote also has a desktop version that syncs with online account and a great iPhone app as well.
- David Imielski
from iPhone
I basically switched to Zoho. I'd rather use Google Notebook, but Zoho is comparable.
- Tanath
I think they've already disappeared the firefox extension, unless you already have it installed. The extension made a big contribution to G notebook's utility.
- TomG
I still make heavy use of Google Notebook, mostly at work, running in the Firefox sidebar (so I don't miss the addon too much). Love the clean interface and the convenience cause I'm pretty much always logged into and using my Google account. If they'd delete it without announcement (hope they never will at all) I'd be f****d. Made a backup to Evernote but that site just doesn't feel right.
- Hendrik Neumann
You'd probably be better off switching it to Evernote.
- Michael Lynton
You should give evernote a try.
- Russ Jackson
I find Zoho to be a better replacement for me. It's more like Google Notebook, and Evernote (Edit:) doesn't work on Linux
- Tanath
@Tanath - what platform are you using that Evernote doesn't work on?
- Lindsay
Google notebook was so good - it was so easy to use and it made everything available on my iPhone for quick access. I really wish google would reconsider
- Kelly Johns
from iPhone
Lindsey: Linux.
- Tanath
How to photograph fireworks - http://howto.wired.com/wiki...
Melanie Langenhan, Darren Heydon and Michael Fidler liked this
This might come in handy!
- Michael Fidler
Yeah it was interesting they had iphone tips for this too, although I cant' imagine getting a great pic with the iphone but maybe I am wrong
- Kelly Johns
"If you haven't heard about Google Voice, you will. If you're not excited about it, you should be." http://www.computerworld.com/action...
metalerik, Ali Haydar, Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ and 19 other people liked this
I managed to lock myself out of my old Grandcentral account. I can't wait for this to open up already so I can enjoy the service again.
- Brandon Mendelson
I'm waiting :)
- Roberto Scano
I'm not trying to be silly but - no -I have no interest in Google voice. Maybe I don't understand the product.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
from BuddyFeed
i've been using GrandCentral for a couple of years now, and it has been great- when i was overseas i was getting phone calls through the Gizmo softphone on my computer and i never had to tell anyone a new number.
- Nathan Eckenrode
LPH - i wasn't super excited at first. the whole SMS think is a bit wonky. But for phone calls incoming it's awesome with call screening and "spam" filtering. The best is the first time i opened up the webpage and dialed an overseas #, and routed it to my cell phone, then 10 min later walked in the front door and seamlessly transferred it to my home phone..... to continue the call there. WOW
- Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF)
I'd like to use Google Voice, but I don't want to give up the cell number I've had for 8 years. So I'm waiting until I can port my number to it.
- Evan Parker
from iPhone
Google Voice is AWESOME, I have been using it since the day it was launched as Voice, it is the best way to filter your calls - period, I use one number for business and personal and I can control who gets blocked, who goes to voicemail, I even rigged it so I could leave myself voice notes that are transcribed to my email! I want to get another Voice # but I heard you can only add phone numbers to one Google Voice #, you can't add them to multiples, is that true?
- Kelly Johns
Have it, use it ... It rocks
- Charlie Anzman
Wait, Google Voice is the same as Grand Central, right? Can anyone explain to me what the point having Google Voice is? Thanks.
Raymond Marr aka Knatchwa liked this
Cuz Google bought Grand Central and is going to revamp the service instead of letting it go deadpool?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
because all the cool kids will have it soon. actually pretty convenient way to 'centralize' all your numbers - point them to one place. i have phones w/ different area codes - will be nice to have them point to one number with 1 voice mail box and other tools.
- michael sean wright
It's got online voicemail with transcription and free SMS?
- Bill Kinney
I actually use it whenever i have to give my phone number out to an untrusted source that may sell it.
- Bill Kinney
Greatest feature that I want is the voicemail transcription. I HATE HATE HATE voicemail.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Transcription suffers badly. Still, though...
- Christopher Harley
I use mine to help separate my real life calls from all these crazy internet people ;) By having it forward to my cell, it lets me use one phone, but still keep some privacy.
- Davis Freeberg
The "This number is no longer in service." recording is a big win.
- Christopher Harley
Google voice is awesome I can give my number out without worrying about it because I can tell it what to do with each person who calls - send direct to voicemail, spam, specific greetings, etc
- Kelly Johns
I give out my cell phone number all the time. 714-227-4664. I don't see what the difference is. Besides, how is talking to all you internet crazy people on the phone, different from talking to all you crazy internet people on FriendFeed, Facebook, AIM, Skype, or Twitter? lol.
- Mark Davidson
The Call Me widget on my blog is pretty cool. All those calls go directly to voicemail so I don't get bothered by the merely curious.
- Christopher Harley
How can you NOT want one...it's like a web app personal assistant. SMSs are transcribed and threaded, organization is off the hook (like Gmail) ...look. http://img.skitch.com/2009062...
- Mona Nomura
You're the Bee's Knees Mona and now I'm gonna send you an SMS to reinforce it.
- Christopher Harley
Wish there was a way for me to get a number. :(
- Andrew Trinh
Testing out Tweetdeck for the iPhone. Columns are the killer feature.
Rex Hammock, Daniel Rowley, Nicholas James and 3 other people liked this
How does Tweetdeck for iphone compare to twitterific, twitterfon and tweeite???
- T.S. Elliott
I like all three. Cant decide.
- Steve Rubel
I will stick with Tweetie, I think. It's fine for my multiple accounts.
- Francine Hardaway
I actually like Nambu - FF and T all in one. I also like the dark color scheme. You guys no likey? How come?
- chad calease
Excited to go home and try this on my touch.
- Bill Kinney
The columns are great and the fact that it syncs with your desktop, needs a few more features and fixes, but once they get this down it will kill Tweetie
- Kelly Johns
I never really hear anyone complaining about the iPhone keyboard even though the response is slow & the auto correct is not very good?
Christopher Harley liked this
It works well for me and I'm pretty speedy.
- Christopher Harley
so when you type, there is never any delay - like the keys are sticking or something?
- Kelly Johns
RT @THE_REAL_SHAQ: http://twitpic.com/6naml This is what van gundy and dwight howards baby would look like
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Rodfather, Christopher Harley and Mathew™ one of a kind liked this
The Party Starter has arrived!
- Christopher Harley
Looks like Howard Stern's Beetlejuice
- Shevonne
Shaq is hilarious, I can't stand him, but he is hilarious
- Kelly Johns
Disneyland Paris in 3D in Google Earth - http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/2009...
Mike Reynolds liked this
Last summer The Walt Disney Company took a big step into the realm of virtual tourism by introducing the Walt Disney World park located in Orlando, Florida in Google Earth, much to the delight of children around the world. We were impressed with the excellent quality of the 3D models, but the thousands of trees, shrubs, benches and other "street furniture" were a first, and set a new bar for realism in Google Earth.
- Kelly Johns
from Bookmarklet
I wish Charles Barkley would shut his trap, he is full of nonsense & has no clue what he is talking about
Brandon Mendelson liked this
I feel like I just stepped back into 1993. What'd he do this time?
- Brandon Mendelson
He is on TNT talking nonsense about the Lakers, every time he opens his mouth whether its about sports or politics or anything else he makes me sick
- Kelly Johns
I wouldn't go that far;-) he knows how to work the crowd and keep the ratings up.
- Brandon Mendelson
Brand new Mac - Apple packs the wrong install discs so I can't reset password or login 5 days later they still haven't sent the dics
This has never happened to me on a PC - not too impressed
- Kelly Johns
When I click on "Groups", I see all my groups. But when I click on "Friends" I get all my friends AND groups. That's wrong. Groups are not friends. How do I get all my friends without my groups?
Lindsey is Fierce!, Beau Liening, Andre and Kol Tregaskes liked this
Good point, it perhaps should only show friends. #betakoltag-bug
- Kol Tregaskes
Peter, if you go to your user page and click on Subscriptions at the top, here you'll get your friends at the top and groups are the bottom, i.e. this page: http://friendfeed.com/pebbe...
- Kol Tregaskes
but now the mess is that if you had created 'imaginary friends', they show up as friends. Now, when you create the same thing with different name ('private groups') it shows up as a group. I know they are re-working the imaginary friend thing, but I think that should have happened before this change went live. I'm loathe to set up anymore private feeds to create imaginary friends because of this, and that is already limiting the useful of FF for me.
- Criz
Yeah I was using the imaginary friends feature as a Twitter favorite list on FF, now I can't add any more...bummer
- Kelly Johns
No.
Kol Tregaskes, Morgan Haley, Jim Espinoza and 13 other people liked this
I tried this the other day. Not a fan.
- Derrick
I like grilled chicken, but when I go to kFc...it's gotta be fried
- Josh Haley
If I want grilled chicken, I'll go to Harvey's
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
My coworkers liked it but it looked nastay
- Lindsey is Fierce!
I'm lucky enough to have El Pollo Loco here in LA, or roast it up myself (Zuni Cafe style...google for the recipe). It looked like they jammed some chicken in a panini press. :(
- Derrick
doesn't seem right....
- Live4Emma (L4S)
Nope.
- Michelle Martinez
I want to hear why you are not a fan, Derrick. Be more specific, or I may have to buy some myself.
- Louis Gray
Popeye's or NOTHING.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Do they spraypaint the grill marks on there?
- Michael W. May
The "grill" lines are a major turn off and yes, if I wanted grilled chicken, there are hundreds of places in LA to get some.
- Captain Bubbles
Many, many years back they had a "roasted" version that was pretty decent. I don't have KFC often but when I do, it's gotta be original recipie.
- Jim Espinoza
All I can say is 'What the 'F'???' - as in What does the 'F' in KFC mean dammit! Now go get some breadcrumbs and a batch the special herbs and spices! Meet me at the fryer in 3 minutes! Don't be late dammit! I'll get Johnny set up on the fryer....HEY! JOHNNY?!!! Where is that slacker anyway???
- Morgan Haley
Kfc has not been good for a long time - each store is like a totally different business and only a few of them make quality stuff. The ones by my house are constantly out of things they are a joke!
- Kelly Johns
Finally got rid of Gotomypc and went to logmein free which seems to do the job (saves $19 per month)
You couldn't just use remote desktop on windows or NX on Linux? both are MUCH faster than the two you're using, iirc...
- mjc
Didn't even think of that, I used gotomypc in the past for the syncing but now I have sugarsync so I don't need that anymore.
- Kelly Johns
Give yourself a gift this holiday season - create a FriendFeed List that contains key FriendFeed searches. Just pipe your FriendFeed search URL's into a public Google Reader tag/folder. Then create an imaginary friend in FF and use the tag/folder URL as "Blog". Then dump into your FF List.
news2me, Meryn Stol, suelibrarian and 36 other people liked this
whoa. that's some nifty trickery.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Indeed, trickery. The cool thing is that adding new keywords only involves adding the FriendFeed search results URL to the proper Google Reader tag/folder. Results then automagically appear back on FF.
- Mike Reynolds
Would that be niftery?
- Lisa L. Seifert
Whoa indeed.
- Juan Pablo González
Good idea Mike, I was trying to figure out how to bring ff searches into a list, but of course, they don't allow their own feeds to be put into rooms/lists. This should solve the problem! The ff search is very powerful.
- Kelly Johns
Yes, the benefit is having key searches available with one click.
- Mike Reynolds
I did that for FOOD - my own "search" dumps as an imaginary friend - my "food" buddy --- dumps into a ROOM....yummy place
- Susan Beebe
Clever, Mike. I've been searching for something like this.
- Sean McBride
Don't feel bad Gregory. While I generally understand why something would be useful, I wish I were geek enough to do actually implement these fancy things myself. http://www.growmap.com/can-a-q...
- Internet Strategist
By the way, I dropped into this conversation from a search at http://www.ffholic.com
- Internet Strategist
I drop into quite a few Friendfeed conversations via FFholic Most Discussed and Friend Best of Day feeds fed through Google Reader.
- Sean McBride
Very clever!
- Jay
Thanks for this Mike. Works well. I'm trying Google Alerts as well.
- Kol Tregaskes
Chris - I'm tracking hundreds of things via Google Reader. Good for trend spotting. One thing I track is the theme park industry trends given that I work for Disney Parks, with Twitter being the ultimate resource. In economics, I like to track "gdp projections", "inflation" and "deflation". And how about you?
- Mike Reynolds
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- Kelly Johns
More arrogance from Twitter. "Normal people," huh? Here's why what @ev said is stupid: - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
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Saying "normal people" will be on the service in five years is stupid. Why? Because it's calling current customers who are on the service "not normal." I find I'm hearing more and more arrogance toward Twitter's existing user base from its management. That arrogance is stupid. Facebook already has normal people, as Ev puts it, and is far more "sticky" than Twitter is. Twitter is actually becoming harder to follow as more "normal users" come on the service.
- Robert Scoble
from Bookmarklet
Here's a tweet on my screen right now: "Back from the Quizno's breakfast run." Is that really more interesting to follow than photos and videos from your closest friends, which is what my wife shows me every night on facebook? No way. And friendfeed has better noise filtering mechanisms than Twitter does BY FAR.
- Robert Scoble
For months now I have felt that twitter should be run be more involved users of the service rather than Ev. I'm happy to see that you too feel this way. It makes me feel less prejudical about the subject at hand.
- Richard A.
Yes, I found that peculiar.
- Jim
"Normal people" will soon figure out that Twitter isn't all that great. Already I'm seeing engagement go down on twitter. As I go around startups I'm seeing more and more addicted people who are trying to escape from Twitter because watching Tweetdeck all day long keeps them from getting anything done.
- Robert Scoble
I'm not sure that I would see that statement as arrogant. The fact that you say more "normal" people are already on Facebook kind of illustrates the fact that Twitter is not in the norm...yet. It's steadily rising to that position, but the truth is, at least from my meager perspective, Twitter is full of those who are NOT in the norm.
- Carlton Hackett
One thing I'm hearing from a lot of users is that they don't feel like there's a real community on Twitter. Here I really feel there are people I know. Mona, for instance. Or Louis Gray. Plus the employees of friendfeed are ALWAYS here. That's something that I never felt from Twitter's founders/employees. Go read @ev -- is he doing anything to build a community? No, he's always on Charlie Rose or at TED bragging about how many users he has. That will backfire.
- Robert Scoble
I'm normal, and I was on Twitter early on, 2 years ago or so. I don't see what all the fuss is about tho Robert. Just unfollow the Quizno breakfast guy and find a less noisy one. FF isn't stick to me because there's too many accordion folds of comments to follow. Twitter plus Search key word is enough.
- Prokofy Neva
I believe that by saying "normal" he means people that are not early adopters, and if that happen and Twitter becomes more crowded, are you going to stop using Twitter?
- Ahmed
Not sure that engagement is decreasing on Twitter. It's about to explode here in Australia. I do find it odd however to devalue the contribution of the very people who have made it so compelling.
- Jim
Carlton: I don't agree and I agree at the same time. That's the problem with using terms like "normal." There is no "normal" in human beings. That term is arrogant.
- Robert Scoble
Prokofy: find me a single Twitter user who isn't noisy some of the time. I've looked. Even TimOreilly is noisy some of the time.
- Robert Scoble
Ahmed: early adopters have already moved to other services. They are on Twitter less and less.
- Robert Scoble
Jim: late adopters don't engage. Sorry, but they don't. At least not at the level that early adopters do. Want to prove this to yourself? Go look at the followers that @ev has. Look at how many Tweets they make. Most have zero!!! Now compare to my followers. Almost every one of my followers has many many Tweets. Especially when you compare to @ev's (Ev is a recommended Twitterer so he's getting a LOT more "recent" Twitterers).
- Robert Scoble
Well I think that he meant "normal" like in "mainstream", which I, for one, find elitist too, because imho: Being an early adopter doesn't mean you're smarter enough to use a product. Or smarter than others that don't use it yet. http://friendfeed.com/e...
- directeur
I suspect that Twitter is in the phase where it needs someone else to take it to the next level. The Twitter founders have created this wonderful thing but seems to me they need to hand over the reigns.
- Jim
directeur: exactly.
- Robert Scoble
Robert this is so true! Facebook and Twitter get worse when more people join. I also love the noise filters on Friendfeed. But above all I love it that they don't force their users to use this or that site or services. This is great while I am slowly removing myself from twitter.
- Bart LePoole
"Normal" people will not use Twitter anymore, if their support can't/doesn't want to answer to a "normal" help request. Mine, after more than one month, is not assigned to an operator yet (my timeline is empty!). Perhaps because I am not a V.I.P: I have seen tweets by "non-normal" twitterers about similar problems, fixed in few hours...
- PaperDoll
To prove the engagement point, visit http://twitter.com/ev... -- click on 100 followers. Almost all have no tweets. Most have no photos. Now visit http://twitter.com/scoblei... and compare. Late adopters, er, "normal people" are lame. I don't wish ANY service gets those!
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I guess you misinterpreted "normal" people. I think that at the moment "normal" people just beginning to recognize Twitter. Before it was for more or less Geek and/or their friends. I don't think it's arrogance. But I agree with you that all this talking about "normal" and other should be finished. I hate elitist behavior.
- Ryo / Fuck Facebook
I think there is something missing in the early adopter/follower conversation (not going to touch "normal") which is am examination of the world of twitter from inside the perspective of the social media in-crowd, vs. that of digitally engaged folks at large. An examination of this dynamic and what it means would be particularly fruitful, as in the end, the success or failure of Twitter for 1,500 social media experts is one thing, and adoption by a significant slice of the population at large is another.
- Robert Davis
"normal" can also mean...not having superpowers gang. "normal" is a reference to people without extraordinary technical knowhow...and they are 80% of the population... so in anyone's definition normal that would be. In fact by "normal" he means "less than"... meaning people who have less than tech savvy...oy c'mon people don't be so sensitive.
- davidlee
Ryo: "normal" people that @ev is attracting are people who do not participate and who have vapid tweet streams. Is that who Twitter is going to build a business around? Really?
- Robert Scoble
I didn't experience this the same way. What you took to mean that Ev was saying we were stupid, I just took as meaning the current Twitterbase is more the early adopters and later it will be more mainstream. And yeah, it is harder to use as more people come on board, which is why filtering apps like TweetDeck are becoming critical for anyone following more than a hundred or so people.
- Lisa Creech Bledsoe
Lisa: and that belief is bullshit. Why would mainstream join in Twitter? Look at Ev's own follower base. That is "mainstream." They do not participate. Now compare to Facebook! I bet that the average time spent on facebook by "normal" people is 100x more than on Twitter. Twitter is going to need engaged users to build a business.
- Robert Scoble
RE engagement @ev @britneyspears etc are all going to have those types of followers. My interest in Twitter has peaked of late due to the increasing diversity in conversation - and engagement with "normal" people.
- Jim
Scoble... you are just mad that Twitter is gonna take off and leave FreindFeed in the dust. :) You put your chips on FriendFeed and it's a bet you are losing... it's okay... you just have to get your head around the fact that when it comes to websites you (and most of your thousands of followers) are not "normal". And you have got to stop being so sensitive about being called out as the exception rather than the rule. Time to face the facts: we are not "normal people". :)
- Matt Shaulis
Robert: What services would you say the early adopters have moved onto? And I agree with you that the people that will sign up now as Twitter hits "mainstream" are more apt to tweet much less, if at all. They will sign up to see what the fuss is about and fall off the radar quickly.
- Jason Kane
Ev has no idea what twitter is about. None of those at twitter really understand how twitter is used, and how strong it is. Best example is SMS in Europe and how they removed that.
- Richard A.
i have been known to say Facebook is for civilians. does that make me evil? twitter was initially used by geeks, not "normal people". Robert- you, for example, are clearly not "normal". think about the terms like a graph- a normal distribution..... twitter isn't normal in terms of adoption yet. far from it. we're still living in the future.
- James
Maybe it depends on your community, where I live facebook is now mainstream, twitter is not yet. I do think that twitter will become 'mainstream' though, the main advantage being the ease of use. Maybe some of the 'mainstream' users will tweet less, but there are many different ways to use Twitter as a tool (none more right or wrong than others) and one of those is to receive information, which does not require a profile pic or posting tweets.
- Angela
Angela; twitter can't become mainstream until the technology is ready (mobile wise) and ideologicaly, when people don't feel sitting at a computer is geeky.
- Richard A.
I hardly think EV's statements are arrogant. I actually think it's pretty accurate. Current Twitter users aren't "normal" they are internet savvy, early adopters, and people that have a general interest in being public. It isn't a slant towards the user base. It isn't a slant towards people who don't use it either. To me, it seems your statements are just shamelessly plugging friend feed. However, there are some substantial differences between Twitter and FriendFeed to market before the offensive.
- Eric Moretti
about what @ev said...twitter existence, 5 years from now sounds very pretentious for me. People still has a sense of time very last century, they think things change every 50 years.
- Sarah
Eric: that was true a year ago. It no longer is true. Twitter is being talked about on CNN and BBC many times a day some days. The user base is WILDLY switching. Go to @ev's follower list to see how. Really really bad trends for Twitter are there. No engagement. Vapid tweets. Focus on celebrity or getting on TV. Not on discussing ideas. Those are NOT good trends!
- Robert Scoble
3 'normal' people asked me what Twitter was today. I explained the history and the application of it. The response was, and I quote, "Oh, that's intresting. So it's like SMS. Why would I want hundreds of SMS's". 'Normals' will come, realize how useless it is, and never come back...
- Johnny Worthington
Johnny: bingo!
- Robert Scoble
The antonyms of normal are peculiar, abnormal and deviant. I don't find it that arrogant but it is a word that should be used carefully in any context when describing people.
- M F
Wildly switching to what? Vapid tweets/comments/profiles etc are going to exist across all social networking outlets. I think what we are seeing now is a steep curve to ambiguous use by all of them, some will fall from grace as media darlings (MySpace) will others will see a drop in user base, but maintain a substantial following (Facebook). To me social networking is still in its infancy so it's hard to make any assumption of what will fail and what will succeed.
- Eric Moretti
Eric: Myspace is popular though, for music lovers. Hundreds of thousands of people, if not millions, use it to find lot's of music. It's just part of a sub-culture rather than mainstream. Means the user base is more engaged as a result.
- Richard A.
Eric: you are missing what goes on here on friendfeed. Here we have a way to hide noise and accentuate the signal through liking and commenting. On Twitter you do not have those mechanisms. Clicking "like" for instance does a TON behind the scenes and makes that much more searchable, for instance. It also shows that item to all your followers. Which makes it more likely everyone in the system sees some signal instead of vapid tweets flowing by.
- Robert Scoble
Richard: hundreds of millions of people use MySpace. But that service is stagnating. Other music discovery services, particularly on facebook, are starting to eat away at its dominance.
- Robert Scoble
@Rich: This might be true. I personally can't stand MySpace. Too messy in terms of advertisements and user controlled pages. It gives me a headache, which is why I think the general public over 30 won't stick with it.
- Eric Moretti
Twitter is the Post-It-Note, FriendFeed is the Memo Envelope... I scribble things down on Twitter, I get stuff done here.
- Johnny Worthington
I enjoy the analogy :) but FF is more then a Memo Envolpe
- abdellah
Robert, Twitter is going to turn into the myspace of microblogging. By that I mean that myspace has one purpose whereas facebook has many. People jumped to FB as a result. We'll find the same with Friendfeed, once it gets easier to use. It offers more value to the user.
- Richard A.
I agree... But since it's midnight here, my analogy generator is defragging :)
- Johnny Worthington
Richard: bing!
- Robert Scoble
oh it is still working, what could it generate for the facebook case :)
- abdellah
Robert: Well, hey give me time, I just joined. I'm not arguing Twitter vs. FriendFeed. I think the comment was more directed being over reactionary. For the record, I like it, but working full time, school full time leaves very little time. Does Friend Feed have an Android App?
- Eric Moretti
Depends on what he meant by 'normal people'
- Moses Kpetigo
But am I a normal person or just stupid to want a direct message feature in friendfeed?
- Bart LePoole
Anyone who really knows me (not those who just know me through Twitter) will agree that I am not normal. I guess if it was possible they would describe me as "clinically" not normal. Perhaps what the issue is too many people, many of those I follow, are just using Twitter to market their goods, website or new shows.I don't particularly find people who do this "engaging" .The good news is that the unfollow button is easy to find.
- Keith Beucler
Bart: stupid. You already have direct messaging in friendfeed. It's called Gmail. (Seriously: the worst feature of Twitter is DM'ing. It's a horrid feature. I wish it had never been implemented).
- Robert Scoble
no you aren't, but what make me in trouble is the fact that there is so many way to be in a direct relation with some one :) comment like and damn there is email too :)
- abdellah
Robert: DM is stupid, I will give you that. Why limit a DM to 140 characters? Moreover, the people who I would actually DM, I have their email address.
- Eric Moretti
i am wondering not about the normal people comment - but the 5 years part - really that long? how many new sites or addictions will pop up in the mean time?
- Damian Holmes
Damian: good point. Facebook is five years old. They got 175 million users already and are growing 700,000 every day. Facebook is the Silicon Valley success story of the year.
- Robert Scoble
I've always thought that 'normal' people, when talked about in these terms, are people who aren't like you. Everyone thinks they are a little different, so normals are everyone else
- Rachel Clarke
Robert my desire for DM is to keep one conversation thread and not to have to move to another platform. I want one conversation bundled as one conversation. This you have pointed out is one of those great features of FF.
- Bart LePoole
Robert, thanks to you, I'll never strive to be "normal" again :)
- MiaD
There is a big push to get these services "mainstream". And maybe Ev was tired of saying the word mainstream over and over, so "normal" fit the bill. :-)
- Louis Gray
All my normal friends are exchanging virtual nonsense on Face Book. or they are trying to figure out what to do about these causes. http://bit.ly/h07n Why be Normal ?
- Eric Logan
Robert, I'm not a twitter-fan but I'm not sure you're right. I believe you should follow less people on twitter than you follow here on FF or on Facebook, just because you have less filter tools on Twitter, and because you should be interested in what your friends are doing, not anybody wherever he is. And that's what "normal" people would do, if they ever get there.
- Markingegno - Donato
Perhaps a poor choice of words, but valid point that the masses (normal people) have not yet latched onto Twitter.
- David Lanning
By the time "normal" people figure out Twitter, the rest of us will be onto something else.
- The Way Things Are
I signed up for twitter a week ago and I still don't see any reason why I'd use it for anything that facebook or friendfeed don't already provide me in a way that's much easier to use. It really seems like facebook status updates that don't have comment threads. So, I feel like I'm missing the whole point of twitter.
- Steve Koch
Plus: I hate birds.
- Steve Koch
one makes the world "idiot" proof and then the world will make a better idiot !! If your not living life on the fringe or the edge, then you are taking too much room on the this planet :)-
- Peter Dawson
@scoble: thanks for starting this thread. I thought @bart's comment was the best line here: "...Facebook and Twitter get worse when more people join..." Ironically, those are exactly the conditions FB and TT need in order to become viable businesses... but from a user experience pov, it's a race to the bottom as more people get on. <sigh>
- .LAG liked that
Twitter isn't built for 'normal' people. All my real friends hate me because I refuse to add them... but I talk to them via IM. I don't need to know if they bought a new pair of shoes or if they're sick - AGAIN. What I don't understand is why Twitter gets as much fuss and attention as it does.
- Mona Nomura
@scoble I really think you are blowing the word "normal" out of proportion. He's clearly referring to non-early adopters. Goes back to the common "my parents" metaphor all consumer internet folks refer to. It's flawed, but quite pervasive.
- Clay Newton
@Mona: +200! Seriously, Twitter wins for most over hyped site. I frankly contribute to that through stomping around about how much attention it gets for so little added value. The sands are shifting under Twitter and I'm not sure they get that. People are on overload, they're shifting to trusted networks. And Twitter is now overflowing with affiliate, spam and black hat SEO. Not a peep (or chirp) out of Twitter on how they're dealing with that and the very quick backlash it will likely get from users.
- AJ Kohn
Jason - that doesn't really describe why it's getting buzz. What a lot of the Twitter early adopters (I wasn't) were saying about the usefulness and versatility of Twitter has finally been recognized by...uh..."normal people". Well, as normal as Shaq and Jimmy Fallon and Karl Rove are.
- Hutch Carpenter
Shouldn't it get recognized once it is finally stable (FailWhale after it was mentioned on The View by Barbara Walters? Still?) and monetizing? What kind of standard does this set for start-ups across the board?
- Mona Nomura
Normal just means people between the tails of the bell curve. Which, come on, we all are.
- Matthew DeVries
2.0 is to Twitter and 1.0 is to Pets.com ????
- AJ Kohn
PEOPLE: Pile off Robert. This is obviously one of those mulligan overly sensitive statements he warned us all about yesterday that were going to be coming. Give the dude a pass and move on.
- Matthew DeVries
Mona - monetization is not something the average user obsesses about. You think the news guys that are getting on Twitter spend a lot of time worrying about that? Fail Whale is an issue, it nearly brought the service to its knees last year. It's better, but needs improvement still.
- Hutch Carpenter
Robert, I'm advising for a company that is doing an amazing alternative for Twitter, targeted just at Moms. I'd love to give you and Maryam a demo some time. (I think Maryam would really love it). I'll e-mail you some more details shortly if you're interested.
- Jesse Stay
Oh, perhaps I was misunderstood. Why is this service (Twitter) garnering as much attention as it does when there is no guarantee it would even last? It just heightens its worth for a buy-out. What kind of standard is this setting for products and services moving forward?
- Mona Nomura
@scoble I think this is totally blown out of proportion. He clearly meant, "not tech obsessed" or cutting-edge. Like Clay said, he meant people like my parents. My only disagreement is that it'll take 5 years -- it's already happening. Of course, how long people stay or use the service is always the big question, but people who aren't plugged in (like my sister) are already trying it out.
- Christina Warren
Mona - YouTube
- Hutch Carpenter
Here's what I don't get - why would anyone keep working there? With all the new financing they've been getting, normal employee stock has got to be mostly diluted at the moment. I wonder if they realize that. It's no longer worth working there as a "startup environment".
- Jesse Stay
Hutch - Indeed. As well as many others. But seriously, is Twitter *that* useful?
- Mona Nomura
Mona - I think it is, because of its relative simplicity. Ultimately, of course, "useful" is a market call. Right now, the market says "yes".
- Hutch Carpenter
I just think it's a good example of how not everybody was meant to do press junkets and interviews with Charlie Rose. Time to invest in a PR person
- Dave Powell
from twhirl
Robert, do you think the language is a call back to the days when developers used the terminology "dumb user"? It seems that way to me as well..just the "lite" version of the arrogance that sadly has been endemic in developer culture since at least when I came on board in the late 90's. I'm even ashamed to admit that our university allowed instructors to use this "geek-speak" in the classroom as part of the curriculum. Esoterica often provides its own set of "ear-muffs" to its users.
- Melanie Reed
I think we contribute greatly to the market saying it is useful, by hyping up a service that is still missing many rudimentary features. I truly don't see why Twitter is a great marketing tool. Supplementary, yes but it certainly doesn't deserve all the attention it gets as a service since it's the people on Twitter, not the tool itself that makes it 'useful'.
- Mona Nomura
@Mona is on fire. + 1MM.
- AJ Kohn
Mona: That's like saying the Interstate isn't a good tool, it's the cars on that move the people are the useful thing.
- Matthew DeVries
Mona - I hear the argument about how easy Twitter is to build, nothing special to it. The *concept* was special. The early adoption was critical. The community is the barrier to entry. Twitter hit 'escape velocity' while others failed to do so.
- Hutch Carpenter
Matthew - I don't see the correlation. Interstates are a necessity. Twitter isn't. And Aaron? The mainstream is bigger than Twitter AND FriendFeed.
- Mona Nomura
I thought by not being into sports I would get out of this my ___ is better than yours thing. Guess not.
- Stephan Miller
from Friend Deck
Evan Williams says "normal people" and the ones who are offended are the geeks on the social networks. I rest my case.
- Shawn Farner
@Aaron: I use Rogers' Diffusion of Innovation.
- AJ Kohn
I always love the Twitter bashing on FF...especially from Scoble. We all know that 'normal' is mainstream and we also know that most of us are far from mainstream. Twitter is entering that sphere and as many people that think Twitter is useless there will be 2 more saying, 'Whoa! this is cool'. I'm far from a tech guru and love being able to keep in touch with friends and family via Twitter and SMS. It is the broadcast aspect that beats out plain old SMS.
- Sidney
Shawn - maybe that's why I call my blog "I'm not actually a geek". :-p
- Hutch Carpenter
Why be normal?
- Thomas Hawk
It's like Pepsi or Coke. Preferences only. And people start a war. I don't care unless I own the company, lol. But I guess it's a good time waster.
- Stephan Miller
from Friend Deck
Nonsense? Blasphemy Aaron! There is nothing more important than discussing services and measurements that clearly have no resolute answers!! ;)
- Mona Nomura
Mona - that's why I tend to be market-oriented in a lot of my opinions. Probably the closest approximation of the "answer".
- Hutch Carpenter
Mona - Interstates are not necessary, and when Eisenhower built them, everyone on Route 66 thought no one would use them, and died.
- Matthew DeVries
Hutch - indeed. Only time will tell. @Matthew - I still do not see the correlation with Interstates to Twitter. But it's me, not you. :)
- Mona Nomura
FF is futureproof. FF acknowledges that other services exist and encourages you to not be centralized. FF provides a platform for integration. Twitter wants you to use only twitter. This is what causes vapid content on twitter, it offers nothing, and doesn't have the potential to offer anything other than what you see in front of you. Twitter is a talking platform, FF is an integration...
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- Andy Bakun
I agree with Andy, except to say, perhaps FF will go away (noooo!), but something that does the same thing should rise to take its place if that happens.
- Kamilah Gill
Andy's right.
- Thomas Hawk
@Andy I would disagree to a point. It would be rude of me to walk up to a group of people and go, "I'm heading to the movies" and walking away. They'd expect me to sit around and wait for a comment from them. With Twitter I can say it and be gone. If someone wants to comment they can and I can get said comment on the go. Phone, generally one on one. Email, you can broadcast but again, no sms integration which is vital to reach people mobile. not everyone has email on their phone. Twitter does it all
- Sidney
agree w/ thomas - andy nailed it, exactly my pov too :)
- mike "glemak" dunn
Arent all humans noisy?? Prokofy: find me a single Twitter user who isn't noisy some of the time. I've looked. Even TimOreilly is noisy some of the time." Scoble????
- Francisco Kemeny
The reason why Twitter works is because of the number of people who use it. Yesterday I was having issues with Better Gmail 2, I did a quick twitter search and realized other people are having the same issue at the same time, I replied to them and we talked about it. Can't do that on Google or FriendFeed. I love FF but bottom line is most people I follow on twitter are not on FF, so I have to manually enter these people as imaginary friends to filter the twitter noise - this is a pain.
- Kelly Johns
OMG. I agree completely with Robert.
- Chris Baskind
I was helping somebody set up a new Twitter account today and noticed that during the sign up process they bring up a list of recommended people on Twitter to follow with the check marks already highlighted so you have to actually uncheck them to not follow them. Among various brands such as Dell the number 2 recommendation was a blogger, @dooce. Some of her tweets are very explicit. She refers to herself on her blog as a Sh*t A** H* M*****r F*****r (dooce.com). Interesting pick for #2
- Mike Elliott
Another thing to consider is how twitter could change their feature list or UI such that anything new wouldn't seem "bolted on". I don't think they can. If they added the ability to "browse" tweets and show threads (in the right order), something I think it desperately needs, rather than just a list of obviously ephemeral and no longer relevant entries with the most recent at the top,...
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- Andy Bakun
Mike Elliott: +100. Insightful observation.
- Robert Scoble
I am new to FF, but I like the context and conversation I can get from FF. Twitter seems masturbatory.
- Rick Cogley
Naturally he says normal people. Robert, I hate to break it to you, you are far from normal! I am certainly not normal either. Early adopters are, as a general rule, not the norm. That's fine.
- Daniel W. Crompton
I believe both FF and Twitter serve a purpose. FriendFeed, for me, is much like a university library whereas Twitter is much like the university cafeteria. It depends on 'type' of conversation one wants/needs at a particular moment.
- ka3drr
lol - no not library, twitter is like the roxbury (full of posers) and friendfeed is like a park outside a library on a sunny spring day (chilling with friends and having interesting conversations) imho of course :)
- mike "glemak" dunn
Scoble is wrong on this one, normal people are on email not twitter
- imran
Hmmmm, I'm normal, or at least, I THINK I'm normal... I use Twitter to communicate with people I normally wouldn't be able to find with any other means. I use it for information gathering too. And, bouncing ideas off of people. I don't know, I like it, and I am pretty sure that I am normal. I use Facebook for my real life friends and family, and that's it. Facebook I have locked down, so I can be more at ease there.
- Danielle Closs
My mom is on twitter - she's pretty normal
- Antonio Altamirano
this thread with the amount of quality comments back and forth illustrates the viability of FF as a great medium for debate! IMO: As busy as Mr. Scoble is, he should get mad props for starting and maintaining the discussion.
- shayne catrett
This is a nonissue. Evan's point is that like blogging was 5 years ago, twitter today seems a little offputting. To technological optimists, twitter will always be awesome, but to joe sixpack (or joe-who-has-no-blog) it may be sometime before twitter does not incite: "Well who the hell would want to know what I'm doing all the time?" The idea of 'normal' does cannot be so quickly reversed into "Evan just called me a freak." Grow up.
- Daniel Morgan
Guess I was not so stupid after all... Friendfeed implements DM !
- Bart LePoole
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- Kelly Johns
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