Timo Heuer - Likes - FriendFeed

That poor cat looks so confused. - Georgie Bestie

but it's so warm on top of the scanner! - DJF

Time for a cat scan! - Jemm

Iz I the right way up for printing? - Vicky

This is clearly not my cat. If this was my cat he's have one arm shoved down into the printer trying to tear up all the internal whirling bits with his bare claws. - Soup in a TARDIS

LOL, Soup! - Kol Tregaskes

that is one adorable kitten! - Anna Lynn M.

<3 - Furkan Tunalı

Too Funny! Reminds me of the San Mateo Cat Shelter where one of the cats loves to sleep on top of the laster printer where the paper comes out... - Greg Lato

Kitty!!!! - Janice

keep trying! - Morgan

FEED ME A CAT - tehKenny

Kol, it is NOT impossible. And that's all I'm saying. - Steven Perez

Push harder - Josh Haley

LOL@Jemm - AJ Batac :)

آخی - یک بابک

Hehe, Steven. I won't ask. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Gosh, just noticed this post has nearly 150 likes! :-D - Kol Tregaskes

1 closer....hilarious! - Jeffrey Marsh

There we go 150 likes. :-D - Kol Tregaskes

I'm in ur faxx masheen -- sendin de faxxez.... - Stephanie Segel

thanks, i needed a laugh - chaz2b

FAXCAT IS NOT AMUSED - Karl Knechtel

iz dat some copycat? - bora "head" basman

LOL, now nearly 200 likes! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Thats no fax machine, thats my new patented kitty juicer! - Threepwood

Just one more like... please. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

it's over two huuunddreeeed - bora "head" basman

MOAR! - Pat Hawks

I need 9 copies please ! - Faraz Mullick

A cute cat :) - Mohammad Abdurraafay

Haha, Faráz. - Kol Tregaskes

Next target, 250 likes. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Friendfeed loev faxcat :o - Karl Knechtel

;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Pussy by fax. What will they think of next? - Mattb4rd

X)) - Neya

OMGosh, next up is the 300 likes mark. Anyone care to join in? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Honestly, i'm not generally a fan of the Cat memes... But that is classic. - Alistair (alpinefolk)

You know this is the 7th most liked entry on FriendFeed ever: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... !!! - Kol Tregaskes

Kol, this thread is pure genius. - Scoble, Alex Scoble

But only almost 50 comments.. :) - Simon Wicks

Simon, there's not much to comment regarding the picture :) But meta-comments are more than appropriate! - Ivan Zuzak

Simon, yeah we need 1500+ comments now, who wants to start? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

there we go then for the 1500+!! - Jaap Willem

1600+ to beat the FFundercats live chat thread. I think with this real time now on all threads we're going to see some truly epic comment numbers. - Simon Wicks

Ivan, no the picture speaks for itself. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

OK, now it's the 4th: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... - it's gonna take a huge effort to break the record of 452+ likes here: http://beta.friendfeed.com/imified... - Kol Tregaskes

OK, now this is the 3rd most liked entry: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... :-D Crazy! - Kol Tregaskes

Too bad I am fresh out of likes of I would do it again. - Jason (not an Argonaut)

I'm using this photo in the latest chapter of can haz murder - anna sauce

Hehe, Anna. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

One more for 350 likes, LOL. This is mental! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Come on, 350 cats for a cat getting crushed? You guys are mean. :-P - Richard A.

I'd like again if I could :-) - Dobromir Hadzhiev

bump - Simon Wicks

Richard, LOL! - Kol Tregaskes

Awesomely funny! - Martha

Next target: 400 likes? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

theres one more for you Kol - Toby Graham

Toby, you're very kind. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Cute *_* - Sybelle

Hehe. - Kol Tregaskes

Just 6 more likes for the 400 then I'll leave you alone. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

can you spare a cat 6 likes? - Jason (not an Argonaut)

sweet - Eric Hofmann

Haha, Jason, wow 406 likes, madness! :-D - Kol Tregaskes

Madness? THIS. IS. FAX CAT. - Mike Nayyar

Well 452 likes is the record, hmm I think that is pushing it. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Awesome. - Scoble, Alex Scoble

this is underfaksink at its worzt - pb:

Petr, I have no idea what you mean, but thank you. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

@Kol .. :] that, partially, might have been the purpose.... I don't know it exactly either. :] .. was I reflecting on a cat under the fax, and that it is hard to fax that way ... /?:] ... "underfaxing at its worst" .. - pb:

Ah, OK, Petr. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

there ya have me ! :] .... see, to be honest with you, i saw this pic couple days ago, but i let it go, without posting it ..... what does that make me? :] - pb:

:-) - Kol Tregaskes

OMGosh, just 23 more likes to beat this: http://beta.friendfeed.com/imified... ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

433 Like ! Wow ! - Like

Freemor, yes very cute! :-D - Kol Tregaskes

cute~ - Chan Pen

that's why is called a cat scan and not a cat fax. - Phil Maxwell

oh ... a scan. not fax?! .... it looked to me like she was faxink - pb:

Just 5 more likes needed. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Fax, Petr. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

even a flat cat... faxes just can't handle the hair. You'd have to shave the cat first, else the hair will burn and stick to the drum... a mess! (I am extrapolating from transparencies, mind, i don't have access to a cat to test) - Iphigenie

Hehe, Joelle. This is now tied for the 'likes' top stop. One more then, hehe. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Hehe, Greg. Blimey! Erm, is that not far from 500 likes now? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Bloody marvelous, Kol. Wish I could like it again... too cute (and help u to 500 likes). - Roberto Bonini

I couldn't believe it when I logged on from the morning over posting it and saw it was at something 200 likes! You all have a strange fetish with cats and fax machines, hehe. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Am I the only one who saw this and their first thought was - My goodness did someone break that cats neck? It still freaks me out a little - SteVe C

Steve, it does look a little out of place, but cats are pretty bendy. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

They fax much better if you flatten them first. What? - The original Kevin

LOL, Kevin. - Kol Tregaskes

i can also imagine the cat going there cause it is snug and warm - Iphigenie

Ey, it would be a tad warm on there, especially after a long working day. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Caption which needs to be said aloud: Uh Ohz, I'm totally FAXED! - sofarsoShaw BAZINGA!

Hehe, Shawn. 10 more for the big 5-0-0. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Countdown! 8 more now! - Mike Nayyar

bump for more likes - Josh Haley

bump - Roberto Bonini

One more!! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

I took mine away, too much pressure. - SteVe C

Wow, there we go, 500 likes!! Thank you all!! :-D - Kol Tregaskes

I think Fax Kitty deserves a prize for that. - Georgie Bestie

меня, признаться, подзаебал этот кот - Парадокс Смейла

Kendra, absolutely. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

So we can put this post to rest now. :-) 505 likes final count, wow! :-D Good night all! - Kol Tregaskes

did 3 people really un-like this? now at 506. wtf (edit: uh, oh, yeah, me and 2 + 506 others makes 509. dammit, jim, i'm an artist, not a mathematician) - ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ

wish I could double like! - metalerik

Wish I could just like it at all. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

This is also still on the Best of page. That must be the longest running best of post? :-) - Kol Tregaskes

But it's a cat being crushed... - Richard A.

برای چی این همه لایک خورده؟؟؟؟؟ - نصرآبادی

Hehe, Richard. - Kol Tregaskes

copy cat - gibilix

518 like! most liked post? - Lu Tao

ay yerim yaa çok tatlı kedicikk :)) - Arzu

Lu, yeah but a long way now. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

*bump* - Andre

Blew past 500 likes - LIKE!!!!! - Roberto Bonini

OMGosh, nearly heading to 550!! - Kol Tregaskes

So we know how many people use this site. - Richard A.

So that's what Paws Printing means. - Jack&Cleo

Richard, we getting there. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Jack, hehe. - Kol Tregaskes

this thread is making history. - vijay

Indeed .. this is a most epic thread - Mattb4rd

Hehe. 9 more for 550! - Kol Tregaskes

8... - sofarsoShaw BAZINGA!

7. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Actually only 5...cuz "You, Earl E Morningwood, yasin ghasemi and... 542 liked this" - sofarsoShaw BAZINGA!

Who wants to bet how many likes this thead is going to get??? - Roberto Bonini

Gosh, no idea. - Kol Tregaskes

take some bets then come back in a year to check? - Iphigenie

:) - SokooteDel

Holy smokes .. this pussy cat is approaching 600 likes! - Mattb4rd

552 now, so there are some unlikes going on, hehe, oh well. Still an amazing amount of likes. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

560! - sofarsoShaw BAZINGA!

And back down to 559. Hehe. - Kol Tregaskes

And how could anyone not love kitties after seeing this photo? - Susan Beebe

I liked it without reading this discussion - evidentially we have a lot of people who like the idea of faxing a cat! - Rich

Rich, yes, worrying, hehe. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

564! - sofarsoShaw BAZINGA!

I think we'll have to recruit more ffeeps before this record will ever be broken - Jason (not an Argonaut)

maybe a good way to clone cats :) - Roberto

Hehe, Roberto. - Kol Tregaskes

This surely couldn't hit 600 likes, could it!? - Kol Tregaskes

It could! Keep bumping it up! - imabonehead

It will :) - Roberto Bonini

My next cat post: http://beta.friendfeed.com/the-fun... - Kol Tregaskes

Wow, not even 600 Likes? Feh. ;-) - j1m

No yet. Close though. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Stuck on 581. - Kol Tregaskes

One of the best funny cat pictures I've seen! :-) - John Collis

Kristian, it appears to be. Hehe, John. - Kol Tregaskes

ای بابا این پیشول بی خیال نمی شود، بابا پاشو برو دنبال یه بازی دیگه ، از هفته پیش تا حالا تو فکس ولو شدی حوصله ات سر نرفته، پاشو اقلا بپر رو کیبوردی چیزی - Maryaminaa

11 more to 600. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

داداش كوتاه بيا، مي خواي ركورد بزني!؟ - Exir

هستم بره این کامنتتو ترجمه کنه اکسیر ! :))) داره از فضولی میمیره الان ! :D - Shayan

Hehe, 6 more likes. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Need 1 more like, by my calculation, to get to 600 - Josh Haley

Another unlike then, back down to 598. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

it's 598+3, at the moment ;-) - Andre

There we go, 601!! Wow, can't believe it. :-D Thanks everyone!! - Kol Tregaskes

3 people un liked :( - Roberto Bonini

I think there have been made unlikes over the last week, oh well. - Kol Tregaskes

too many likes, the kitteh is burning up..stop the madness...;) - Jason (not an Argonaut)

Haha, Jason. - Kol Tregaskes

614!!!!! - sofarsoShaw BAZINGA!

Whoa! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

man! ..Kol is gaining ... and I saw that pic one day before Kol posted it :X ..and i let it go! :[)] - pb:

Petr, who's he? - Kol Tregaskes

omg, this post passed 600 likes! - imabonehead

@Kol ..well the man .. Mr Photographer .. ok .. let me go there .. - pb:

I see. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

631 likes, amazing stuff. :-D - Kol Tregaskes

Day 11 and this thing's still going! - Phil Maxwell

Why fax yourself when you can get famous via FriendFeed? :-) - Willem (@wim66) ☠

whereas a cat *scan* is totally feasible - Megan Craig

Kol, congratulations, you won the Friendfeed Award for the most likes entry! - Jérôme

Kol is this from your rival: Squashy Cat Photography? - sofarsoShaw BAZINGA!

Haha, Shawn. Have you really bumped this one again? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

LOL I was actually looking at best of month and I thought I'm going to be clever :-) - sofarsoShaw BAZINGA!

this makes me laugh every darn time I see it - Stephanie•CogSciLibrarian

Who is this NShawnFW? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

kitties do like to find new spots to nap :) - Maryam

LOL, now over 650 likes. - Kol Tregaskes

این هنوز در نیومده از لای این دستگاه؟ - Maryaminaa

Wow. this is good..... pleased, Kol? - Roberto Bonini

Pleased? About the number of likes? I'm happy regardless. :-D - Kol Tregaskes

So do we think it will go to 700 likes? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

what do you mean by "it" ? say "he" or "she". :) - Maryaminaa

Haha, I was referring to the entry. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

lol - Maryaminaa

I see someone already posted 'Copy Cat' !! LOL Great picture - Kevin J Hatton

:-) - Kol Tregaskes

O HAI! I IZ WATIN FR COOPONZ, KTHXBYE. - WYRD 101

Neksnapper 3000 Kitten Eradicator - Kills Kittehs Dead - Mattb4rd

Hehe. - Kol Tregaskes

10 more likes for 700! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

7 more by my count! - Bec Rowe @d0tski

Oops, yes you're right, Bec. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Isn't it illegal to fax a pussy? - aerobroken

It's really only social convention which regards it as inappropriate, same with Xeroxing it, like one does with their b__tocks. Wait are we still talking about cats cats here or... - sofarsoShaw BAZINGA!

OMGosh 700+ likes now!! LOL. Thank you all 702 of you. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Wow, not so bad huh? \u) - Zu from AOD

Before faxing it, you have to flatten it out a bit. You're going at it all wrong! :-) - Rick Cogley

Must try this at home! - Anthony K. Valley ©

Bumping some old great posts. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Now THAT is a classic! - Allan Besselink

you have to flatten it first!!! ;) - Neda S.

This is very good humor! - TrafficBug

Hey, we've hit the 700-like mark. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

just a couple thousand to go - Jason (not an Argonaut)

LOL - Smeerch

__awesome__ - scotu ._.,

and it got resurrected once again! - Iphigenie

I managed to do it once, but I don't think I'm going to do it again. The results were a little fuzzy. - Seth Greenblatt

Bump. - Kol Tregaskes

ahahahahaha salaaa baaaaaakkkkkk - missipipi

I'm so glad this thread has been revived. The cat in the fax machine never fails to delight. - Michelle Jones

aha! 700 kişi zorla kapağın altına tepilen kediyi beğenmiş - Siminya

I've heard of cheap paper but this is ridiculous!! - Neda S.

Copy the cat - Alyn William

And there I was thinking this was the most liked post on FriendFeed. Darn, just 3rd. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Just 100 more likes to go. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Missed this the first time around. - John (bird whisperer)

:-) - Kol Tregaskes

Wow, over 700 likes. :-D - Kol Tregaskes

715 likes and counting. - Kol Tregaskes

Fax Yeah! - Playing Well with Others

:-) - Kol Tregaskes

who revived that one? - Iphigenie

Me, sorry. - Kol Tregaskes

Just 40 more likes. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

all right let's do it... - Iphigenie

Love this one! - Fossil Huntress

:-) - Kol Tregaskes

#aaaf - Ali Oz

Impressive - M F

77 more comments

Great work! - Neya

I'm sorry but this is unbelievable:) I'll give credit to the artist upon more convincing proof! The photogenic look of the tiger and lion really helps the artist's case though:) - Roney Smith

I'm with Roney... I find this hard to believe... or maybe I'm just jealous that I can't even get stick people right! - Jasmin Smith

I don't believe it. Too amazing. - Rah-PM 2012

I'm with Rah - Shey

Only the lion looks like its drawn - embee

The bear and rhino look drawn, too. - Chris Charabaruk

very very talented. Wow they look like B&W pics you know photography. - Gabriella Sannino

These are amazing, were they done by you? - Angelo Rodrigues

Nice photographs - Rafael Robayna

@michael, if they weren't drawn by you, at least tell us who the artist is and the link - LouCypher

Link please? - Jason Wehmhoener

wow - Carolyn Chan

being slightly skeptical, i'm going to say these were done with pencil by a printer of some sorts... #justsayin - Enrique Gutierrez

they're beautiful, but skeptical as well - Jennifer Van Grove

Would need to see higher quality images to see if they are pencil or not - too many jpg artifacts to tell. - Luke Addison from twhirl

Stupefied. - Parth Awasthi

Wow!! Yeah it's pretty amazing what they can draw with a pencil nowadays, deviantART has lots of great pencil art. - Kol Tregaskes

Michael, who is the artist? - Kol Tregaskes

wow, cool! - Sarah Perez

I'm really happy everyone liked these. They're my most liked entry to date, Thanks! There also seems to be some question about whether these are actually Pencil Drawings.I can assure you that they are.When I get home, I should have the links. I have more drawings, too. - Michael Fidler from fftogo

O_O WOW...Stunning - Anna Haro

Wow, these are stunning!! - Susan Beebe

Yes, especially the tiger. Reminds me of that "Tiger, tiger burning bright." - Melanie Reed

Alright, Mike - I believe you. These are awesome. Good job! - Enrique Gutierrez

HOLY CRAP. - Chieze Okoye

no way! - Mister Groonk

Thanks Enrique, I'll post some more soon. They are a little more obvious than these ones. As Luke points out; without being able to look closely it's impossible to tell. He's right; but up close it's more obvious. I'll upload the originals to Picasa later, and then you'll be able to zoom in with any photo viewer and see for yourselves. I can't believe how many people liked these. A few people have reposted them already. Thanks! - Michael Fidler

Absolutely awesome, Michael. You are extremely talented. Everyone should repost these pix and help to make you famous. You should be doing this full time - you obviously have some passion for this. Bravo. - Chris Loft

These are really beautiful, Michael. Do you sell them? - Shannon Jiménez

Chris, I would love to say they're mine, but it's not true. I've had them for a while, but I'll find the artists names. It will just require a little backtracking. Besides, they deserve the credit; all I did was find them:-) - Michael Fidler

Cut the bullshit! :) Photos are very good. - Burçak Çubukçu

I draw alot in pencil, but they are amazing, the best for me is the girl, that is the most photo-like one. :o) - Rob Sellen :o)

I agree Rob, the girl is amazing. My favorite by far! Wait until you see it close up! It's really had to tell, even up close! - Michael Fidler

Burçak Çubukçu If these were photographs, they would be very good. As Pencil Drawings,(which they are), they're amazing. - Michael Fidler

Wow, amazingly realistic - Threepwood

@Michael Fidler did you draw them? How can you so sure? - Burçak Çubukçu

That is my pencil drawing :) http://picasaweb.google.com/Burcak... - Burçak Çubukçu

dont look like it - Prakash

@ Michael Fidler don't push so hard :) - Burçak Çubukçu

@Burçak Çubukçu I can't tell if your serious now or just kidding around. I hope your just having fun! If you are serious, I've never given you a reason to question my integrity, nor do I ever intend to. However, the second set is up now, so judge them for yourself, but don't judge me! http://ff.im/1BJh5 BTW, I messed up and reposted the shot of the women again. Oh well. Hope you like them:-) - Michael Fidler

@Michael: try deviantART, not Picasa, to submit your artworks - LouCypher

WOW "I can't believe it's in pencil" - sofarsoShaw BAZINGA!

LouCypher, I know it well, but I don't see why I would want to do that. I hope everyone knows by now that they're not mine? I'm sorry, but I can't say it any clearer than that. - Michael Fidler

nah, i don't believe it is done in pencil. i am sure it is photoshopped :) - hasin hayder

These would be great even for photos. - Sullivan

i'm not able to comprehend - Varun Shenoy

More comments here: http://www.bannination.com/comment... - donato

I'm finding this both interesting and humorous at the same time. There's a separate message board where this post is being discussed and it has another forty comments on it already. I think its great how this has created some lively discussion, considering that when I posted this I was doubtful if anyone would even like it. When I went to sleep last night there was only had 3 or 4 likes... more... - Michael Fidler

Very interesting. I would like to see them up close and in person...just to make sure. Bill said it's real and possible. Your 2nd set of picts look like pencil. Nice work in finding these! - LaFern Cusack

Kol, I can't thank you enough! Kol found another post which helps to prove that these are done in pencil. I had my doubts about a few of them because I collected them from several different sites over time, but the site Kol found has done a great job pulling together an impressive collection of these drawings and more. Take a look - http://www.flickzzz.com/2009... - Michael Fidler

Actually there are more than what this site shows. There's an entire set with the cats(little cats), which I have, and there's a new portrait set. - Michael Fidler

Found your post here, Michael. :-) I tried my best to find the artists. - Kol Tregaskes

Amazing and very very very good.... Very impressive ... - Linda Zeek-Bobinski

fake. http://lenscratch.blogspot.com/2009... Even if your not claiming to be the artist, these are photographs, well except the woman, thats pencil - james foor

Yeah we know, thanks though, James. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Excellent pictures - how long did it take you to scan the photographs into Photoshop and then edit them? The only pencil that has come into contact with these "drawings" is the Photoshop pencil. A tip - stop trying to fool people into thinking you are a "real" artist, because all you are doing is cheapening proper artist's works whom have spent hours creating real pictures as opposed to a few minutes on a graphics editing package. - The Wimp

A bell does ring here. And I am remembering why I was so attracted to the tiger...and the lion for that matter. These are exact replicas of prints I had in our bedroom when I lived in Dallas. I had bought the prints (in color) at a department store, - Melanie Reed

Actually, I have learned quite a bit about these drawing since I made this post. Not only have I discovered all of the artists, but I've learned more about how they are created. They are always copied from a photograph or painting, but usually a photograph. It is extremely time consuming and detail orientated work. There are many other artists besides the ones featured here who practice... more... - Michael Fidler

Most of them have portfolio's on deviantart.com and their work is truly amazing even if they are copies of other artists work. I suppose with this level of detail, they have to start with something. Nevertheless, I'm still in awe of their talent. Melanie, the animal prints you refer to are from a very well renowned photographer. The originals are B&W I'll look it up later but I do have... more... - Michael Fidler

wow; they're unbelieavably beautiful. - liladreams

Has anyone ever corrected the record and pointed out, with the exception of the Charlize Theron drawing, that these are indeed photos by Alexander Von Reiswitz? - erik weisz

Erik, thank you for bringing this up again, but I think I already mentioned something about this in my prior comment. However, since it appears that you only signed up to friendfeed to leave a single comment, (ok, why?) I will try to summarize what I wrote previously. In brief, I learned after doing a little research that all photo-realistic drawings like the ones that I shared here,... more... - Michael Fidler

Awesome - الکامپ

I can assure you that what are claimed to be drawings of animals, in your post here, are photos. I used a website to that allows you to do an comparison of the Von Reiswitz photos and the images you have posted here. There are no differences. Every hair matches up. As a pencil artist myself I can tell you that it's pretty much impossible to get that kind of accuracy and have it look... more... - erik weisz

but... it has to be real, i saw it on the internet - Iphigenie

Eric, it doesn't matter to me if you just joined, and I apologize if I made you think otherwise. If you have any questions regarding friendfeed, please feel free to ask and I will do my best to answer them. At this point, I would be happy if we could find someone who is an image analysis expert, and finally point this thing to rest. Every time that I look into this, all I find is a... more... - Michael Fidler

the site spammed above must all be done in pencil too, right, thats why you posted it? - Iphigenie

I'm amazed that people are still posting these photographs of animals and calling them pencil drawings. This is at least the third case I can remember (and there are probably more) of this happening. The myth about them being drawings was debunked long ago. It's also funny that whenever they get posted the person posting them doesn't make it clear that they aren't the artist, exactly as you have done. - canadianmaple09

@canadianmaple09 I posted these back in March, 2009 when I was beginning to use FF regularly. I ran them through TinEye hoping to find their source, but it returned no results. When I ran through again yesterday, TinEye returned over four pages of results. If I had it to do over again, would I? Yes - Michael Fidler

The people you refer do don't join "just to slam" someone, they are concerned members of the online art community that want to see real art appreciated and fake art or photos being passed off as drawings revealed for what they really are. Artists such as Brian Duey, Armin Mersmann, Paul Lung, Zindy Nielsen,and many others do not receive the appreciation they deserve because of scams like this. - canadianmaple09

canadianmaple09, the worthiness of your motives notwithstanding (and they are worthy, definitely) you could definitely have approached Michael completely differently by say, giving him the benefit of the doubt rather than attacking in a highly accusatory tone. - Chieze Okoye

When you've seen these same pictures posted multiple times by people that just find them on the internet and claim they are pencil drawings, when it has already been established on multiple occasions that they are not, the "benefit of the doubt" approach seems a little too generous. People post these images and claim they're drawings to get views for their own site or blog or page or whatever it is they post it on. It's wrong and it needs to be stopped. - canadianmaple09

I can understand that, but you should also keep in mind that everyone is not as well-versed in the issue as you are. All I'm saying is that you would probably be more effective in this case if you weren't setting this up as a us-vs.-them, "must destroy with the validity my argument!" attitude when talking to a guy who's been actively having a discussion on the issue in what seems to me (having been around when he first posted the images and the follow up thread and what not) to be good faith. - Chieze Okoye

Look at his first comment here. People clearly thought he drew them. He doesn't set the record straight. He also claims that they "are actually pencil drawings" and that "I have more drawings too." Later he claims that you need to look at them closer to see they are drawings and that he will "post the originals". Once again, this makes it sound like they are his. This follows the same... more... - canadianmaple09

Greg and Chieze, thanks for your support. I really appreciate it. @canadianmaoles09, for what it’s worth, I share your concerns about giving proper attribution when sharing also. However, I admit that I'm more conscious of it now than I was at the time of this post. Nevertheless, I have never taken credit for anybody's work here other than my own! - Michael Fidler

BTW, I didn't realize it before, but I just noticed that you're new here too. I hope you like it so far and spend more time here. IMO, friendfeed is still the best thing around! - Michael Fidler

I would probably qualify as an image analysis expert, but there's no way to prove that online. One thing we can do is look at color. Even though the images are black and white,they're actually RGB images, meaning they contain cyan magenta and yellow. If you look at the image of the rhino you have posted then look at the photo of the rhino at the photographer's site you can see they both... more... - erik weisz

"Today we bring you a great collection of portraits of the most iconic people throughout history. Portraits explore the relationship between the subject and the photographer or artist and usually continue to impress the viewer years after they have been created. The common thread running through all of these portraits is superlative design. Each is a masterpiece in its own right, from the medieval painted portraits right up to the most current photographs. This collection is arranged in alphabetical order and is by no means complete. We encourage you to post comments as to which portraits we’ve missed, that you feel should be part of this collection." - Thomas Hawk from Bookmarklet

some of the world's most iconic portraits in this set. - Thomas Hawk

3 Lizard Kings* - Billy Warhol

yea im just saying change the term that's all.. - Allen Stern

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This has come up so many times. But Friendfeed has been resisting it for some reason. - The Fat Oracle

I wouldn't vote for that change... Maybe an addition. I like to like. - iTad

tad but how would you differentiate btw the 2? im suggesting share because many times i don't want to say i like something to share it with others - in fact i may very well hate it but to get you to see it i have to say like - it was "cutesy" when friendfeed launched but time for them to change it. - Allen Stern

But, I like Like. - Mathew™ aka Youngblood

Allen... But sometimes I don't want 'Share' something, I want to mark my approval of something or 'Like' that it is in my Feed. - Johnny

I like like - anna sauce

Matthew - are you saying you like like you that you like the like to which you have shown that you like? - Allen Stern

Like the idea of having a share link too... one that you could use to share across all filtered list... like when you subscribe... thats would be a neat idea... you could even have it so you choose the list you want to share it with ;o) keep the like..as is, as its on each list seperate. :o) blimey...who am I to give opinions...lol.. been here a week.. but thought it was worth saying... tell me to shut if not lol. :o) - Rob Sellen :o)

rob you may talk as much as you like - just look at scoble, he invades every thread and they haven't kicked him off yet! - Allen Stern

In some ways when you press like you are sharing because you bubbling up the post, on the other hand when you have liked you can reshare the entry so indirectly you are also liking it but putting it a place i.e a room where others could share and hopefully enjoy/find of relevant interest in the future. - Jason

Allen..scoble is like that everywhere tho... :o) - Rob Sellen :o)

there is a reshare option. I like both - BEX

I think the verb should be open architecture. - Dave Winer

agreed. polydimensionality. - Phil Wolff

I think we need: Like, Share, Dislike, Run away from, Laugh, Smile, Cry, Get Angry, etc. And it shows up as "Chacha102 ran away from this." "Chacha102 got angry from this." "Chacha102 smiled from this." etc - Tyler (Chacha)

I like like - Alejandro

"In the English language, the word like has a very flexible range of uses. It can be used as a noun, verb, adverb, adjective, preposition, particle, conjunction, hedge, interjection, and quotative"... it'll do :) - Johnny

and add a "dislike" or something. Sometimes people post stuff I think is important, but I don't "like" the content (e.g. Mumbai attack, etc) - Dave Hodson

Gotta be careful of overkill tho eh... :o) - Rob Sellen :o)

just change it to share - thanks! - Allen Stern

i think adding share and some other options to click would be a nice addition - (jeff)isageek

I already said it here: http://friendfeed.com/e... but basically, make an additional option of "Flag". All "Likes" would be "Flags", but not all "Flags" would be "Likes".” - Micah

Any change in the options would change the UI I'm used to, but I guess they could put stuff under More. - Rah-PM 2012

I've thought a fair bit about the terms of "like" vs "share". There are pros and cons of each. However, when there is some bad news of some sort its very hard to click "like" when you really just want to share it because it's important... as Dave Hodson said. - Jesse Spaulding

I wish when I "shared" in Google Reader it "liked" the original article in FriendFeed. - Jesse Stay

I wish I had a robot ;) - Joe Dawson

I prefer "bump" and "mark", personally... for stuff I wanna pull back to the top for whatever reason, and then totally separate bookmarking, either public or private. - abacab

I like Like. When I Like something it's not always to share, it's so it shows up in my LIkes/ Comments page so I can read it later. Leave it alone! - Nicola Quinn

I want more than just like. Just a few more, like 'i sympathize' or 'interesting' or 'user defined.' Like lists, i want to put FF entries into lists instead of users. Yeah you could reshare into private rooms but then you lose conversation and possibly more related links. I'd pay $20 a year for that and an app like Thunderbird with tons of filter abilities. - sergiooo

I'm happy that its' called 'Like,' I'm "liking" the article not "sharing" the article, the original OP is sharing it. If you want to share it then there is a 'resahre' option for this. I don't agree with having dislike added, let's try and be positive with things instead of adding negatively to a great community here. You would only get people question why you dislike it and cause arguments, I'm not here for this. - Kol Tregaskes

Besides if you dislike something, then 'hide' it. - Kol Tregaskes

<3 like - Dobromir Hadzhiev

Funny to read the comments now the like will dominate the world:) - Gabriel Aldamiz-echevarri

Product/Project Manager for a company called Carmanah. - Jon-Paul Bussoli

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Elderly grad student and open source contributor. Don't know if I can call either of those jobs though :) - Michael C. Harris

Manager of IT Project Management for Nelnet Enrollment Solutions (CUnet.com office in Rochester, NY). Primary work involves "IT Infrastructure Integration" management of all projects for http://CUnet.com and http://Petersons.com = FUN! Also, I am the VP of Information Technology for http://PMIRochester.org - Susan Beebe

Batman. Oh, day job. Web Developer. - Hao Chen

IT manager for a graphic design company. - Mark Trapp

Web, Graphic, & Print Designer, and Web Video Editor for http://www.americansafetycouncil.com - and also co-founder and designer of http://www.flickchart.com - Nathan Chase

Training Manager, b5media - Tris Hussey from twhirl

CEO, Nichenet Pty Ltd...which really means Editor, The Inquisitr, as I haven't done a consulting gig in maybe 4 years - Duncan Riley

Advisory Software Specialist (just what the heck does that mean) at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in NYC. - Kevin Shannon

Bit manipulator - Drew

pixel pusher - sean percival

Senior Systems Engineer, Solutions Center (Software AG Inc.) - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

It's like a rollcall. Heh. - Robert Sanzalone

RN ICU - Irene Katz

Blogger for b5media, Cell Phone Signal, and set up websites for businesses. Also a junior in high school. - Zach Flauaus

Senior managing editor at a medical certification board - Linda Mills

programmer in startup + research student :) - David Petar Novakovic from twhirl

Web Developer at http://www.wego.com which is a travel meta search engine. My current project is to build an analytics application for internal use, analogous to Google Analytics. Right now, I program mainly with Ruby. - Winston Teo

M.O.M. - Melissa Davis from twhirl

offically it is online services coordinator at http://slwa.wa.gov.au but I introduce myself as the web geek - Nick Cowie from twhirl

web designer - Andrew Smith

I run a blog network called Gear Live. - Andru Edwards

Software Engineer - iTad

Director of Technology, Navstar, inc and IC Rockstar ;) - Andrea Baker

Product Manager at a software company - Mike Doeff

sitting at a desk pretending to work, going to meetings, and wishing my work had meaning (see also "Dilbert") - Kevin L

Run a product development/manufacturing/ideation company in Greater China. No lead allowed even in the pencils. - Mark Forman

Critiquing Mike Frutcher's blog and shares - Charlie Anzman

I am an RN in theatre but I am about to start a Geek job associated with nursing next Monday - then I have the second job doing the odd website and management and my own podcast and anything else that comes along - Dave Gray from twhirl

Independent Game Developer/ College Sophomore - the two fit together nicely :P - Sean Dunn

I help large government organizations figure out how to spend taxpayer money on technology. - Chris Hollander

VP, Marketing at Caring.com, Online Marketing, SEO/SEM Strategist and Tactician. - AJ Kohn

Tug boat. - Akiva

Online Giving Manager, Give Kids The World (Kissimmee, FL) - John Frost

Student and sometimes a journalist - Timo Heuer

Like the world doesn't know by now: I am the King of Antarctica - Dan Kaplan

Freelance developer / animator - Soulhuntre from twhirl

Retired Business Analyst and small business owner. - Russellreno

Senior Executive in High Tech - Stephen Terlizzi

Designer/Developer at Vertigo - Alan Le

3 Weeks of Serving Fried Food. Nope.. not much of a job for a 14 year old - Tyler (Chacha) from twhirl

Creative arts academic - Kate Foy

Old media reporter, New media bridge-builder, student of both computer and legal code. - Andrew Feinberg

Web Producer for The X PRIZE Foundation. I basically manage all of their web properties (mostly on Drupal) as well as 3rd party web services. - Mark Krynsky

LinkedIn gives it all away: http://www.linkedin.com/in... - Louis Gray

Business Analyst. - Parth Awasthi

I work doing software support for Barclays small business! - Joe Dawson

breathing. It's a full time job - Mona Nomura

widget media guru - Ivan Pope from twhirl

Product Manager for Digital Asset Management and Social Collaboration at http://www.day.com/ - Lars Trieloff

Louis' idea is the easiest: http://www.vincedegeorge.com - Vince DeGeorge

Thanks for participating everyone. - Mike Fruchter

Mike - This is a great resource for discovering new contacts. - Russellreno

http://www.linkedin.com/in... - Mohamed J

Russel for sure, It's very interesting to see what our fellow Friendfeeders do in there day job. A great thread for meetting new contacts as well, definitely agree. - Mike Fruchter

Quite a low-profile one but very interesting nevertheless: http://14sandwiches.com/about/ - Martin Bryant

Formerly, a social media specialist at google. Currently, enjoying an extended summer vacation and hoping when I'm 80 years old I'm still not calling myself an ex-googler. - Ginger Makela Riker

Local Govt IT Advisor - David W

Pharma and biotech marketing consultant, science and cancer geek - Sally Church

@Charlie "Critiquing Mike Frutcher's blog and shares " Your salary just increased! - Mike Fruchter

low-level fraud detection job at a very large bank. I might link this to my earlier lamentations about this job... here's that link http://friendfeed.com/e... feel free to add more to that, though I did get plenty of good feedback back then. - Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)

Garbage Man, Brooklyn New York - work the Greenpoint-Lorimer route. Ok, kidding, but I wanted to break up the monotony of design/tech jobs;) I'm a Creative Director at an interactive advertising/marketing agency. - Steve Isaacs

currently - grassroots public affairs - Marco(aureliusmaximus)

[gasp] kamilah! i do something kind of similar! :D - edythe

systems architect; currently building appliction systems unifying disparate data for law enforcement. yes, I fight crime! - RAPatton

retired - Michael W. May

In between at the moment. But normally personal / executive secretary, Any one need an assistant? Flunkie? or slave? - Adrienne Van Houten

Director of communications and public affairs at Rockefeller University (hey, @Kevin Shannon: We're neighbors!) - Joe Bonner

VP, Marketing and Product for Caring.com. On some days I also do some consulting through Blind Five Year Old (http://www.blindfiveyearold.com) - AJ Kohn

WOW, this blast from the past is back - Mike Fruchter

Since this posting I have changed jobs. Currently I'm Director of Digital Strategy at Pierson Grant Public Relations. - Mike Fruchter

I build relationships through technology - Jesse Stay

Or, more accurate: I build technology that builds relationships - Jesse Stay

Risk analyst in Compliance Management group of financial services company...deal mainly with PCI DSS - Scoble, Alex Scoble

I work for the man. - Morgan

Underpaid Bureaucrat - m9m, Crone of FriendFeed

I'm doing social media and content crap for a pretty big company - blogging as a hobby for a pretty huge network. Word. - Mona Nomura

Voice over actor, performance trainer - Kate Foy

Best viewed from photostream. Excellent!! :-D - Kol Tregaskes from Bookmarklet

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That is AWESOME - Josh Haley

That's really cool. No way I'd have the planning ability to do that. - Jandy

Nifty! - @CrystalinaB

that's awesome. - Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど

Fabulous! - Penny

Can I FAV that stream!?!? That is awesome! - Justin Korn

Clever. - Mike Nayyar

Check Daniel's share of this two: http://ff.im/2rPZM. Like that he's captured the photostream screenshot. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

I did something similar some time ago: http://tr.im/k13U and http://tr.im/k142 but in sets not photostream. Anyway this guy work is nicer, mine was just an experiment. - Leandro Ardissone ⍨

Leandro, that is excellent! - Kol Tregaskes

Brilliant - Michael Fidler

THAT is really creative! - S of 2C

i agree with creative. - امیر؟

Sweet, What a great idea! - aerobroken

Bumping some old good posts. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

I don't think Google Wave will be ready until later this year. You can fill out a form to be notified when it's done: https://services.google.com/fb... - Kenneth

You bet I filled out that form. I just figured there must be a sandbox somewhere with happy geeks already playing around. - Ryan

Google I/O attendees are in the sandbox. I expect Google to begin to invite other developers within the next month or so. They have to open it up to interested developers in order to get extensions and cool apps made before launch. Wouldn't surprise me if they have an invite scheme over the summer too and then publicly launch it later in the year. - Brandon Titus

Just listened to their video. Well.... - Wins Fern

You can request for sandbox account at, https://services.google.com/fb... (Tell them if you wan to create your own application based on wave!) - Jigar Mehta

I'm interested in getting an invite, let me know if you find something... - Jorge Avila

There's a link to request a user invite from the http://wave.google.com page, but definitely the fastest way to get on it now is to be a developer - guruvan (Rob Nelson) from PeopleBrowsr

...or know a developer. I assume developers will be able to create multiple accounts in the sandbox, otherwise how would you go about testing anything? Any developers out there who need an extra tester, feel free to message me. - Dave

good point Dave. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

@Jigar, thanx for the link :) - Özkan Altuner

Anyone already has a preview? Can you invite anyone? I`d really appreciate an invite. folone@gmail.com - ..кстати

Would be really happy if somebody could share an invite with me. My email is eugenepush@gmail.com. Thanks in advance. - Eugene K

Please give me invite to google wave. dahiicocuk@gmail.com .Thanks in advance ;) - fatih.

i need google wave angelapinto00@gmail.com - Angela Pinto

Can someone invite me... JustH8in@gmail.com Thanks So Much! - Justin

Can i have one too, if there are any left? pishcot@gmail.com thx - cata b

I love this version. And Seesmic in Twhirl is so addictive - Loic Le Meur

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nice improvements Loic!! bring it on!! - Susan Beebe

can't wait - gimme more ;o) - Marco Sascha Sven Hoppe from twhirl

very interesting. The friendfeed integration looks way better than before. Will have to give this a look when it is released. - Rob Diana

Seesmic ROCKS!! - Larry Miller from twhirl

okay, so FF and Twitter are in the latest? but not Seemic correct? - Lou Paglia

This might get me back into Twhirl. - Akiva

and it has FF rooms support! - Loic Le Meur

The question is when ? - Gilles M. from twhirl

wow, looks great. remind me http://twitku.com/ for a second there... - Orli Yakuel

looks very cool. exactly what we need. but what about plurk ;) - Phil Coyne from twhirl

needs pownce and jaiku support too. Then it will be the total solution - Adrian from twhirl

yes... when? - Mike Wills

@LouPaglia - correct, Seesmic is not integrated with Twirl desktop app yet - Susan Beebe

in a few days I think for the new FF integration. Seesmic comes next. - Loic Le Meur from twhirl

Super! When!??! - Florin Grozea from twhirl

looks like it might replace alert thingy as my RIA of choice - Steve Lynch from Alert Thingy

Great ! Thanks - Gilles M. from twhirl

integrate into one window, is all i ask, make it indisputably the best - Ruben Llibre

none of them working in linux TOO BAD! - Yassin Alvandi

Is twitter's api actually back up at 50 req/hr? - Shawn Farner

The old Twhirl works for me in linux for me, it just won't remember my password. - Daniel E. Renfer from twhirl

Yes Marco does. Twhirl is becoming my info hub. And if Twitter dies, who cares I'm sure Pownce, Jaiku or whatever could be swapped in - Tris Hussey from twhirl

so is seesmic cool now? - Soulhuntre from twhirl

How do we score the test ver? :) - Soulhuntre from twhirl

You tease. Where do I download it? - Rafe Needleman

Cannot wait, big Guy! - ledretch

I want... When? - highcenter from twhirl

Can't wait!! - Danish Khan from twhirl

actually it will be pushed in an hour or two - Loic Le Meur from twhirl

Can't wait! - Tris Hussey from twhirl

Nice teasing. Do you have any release date or will you take the "it's done when it's done" side? - Romain Péchard from twhirl

I would love some "best practices" guide for how to get the most out of all that information that will be flooding in. - Brendan Cosgrove from twhirl

How do I add my Seesmic account into Twhirl 082? It's not showing up in the "accounts" list. - Rafe Needleman from twhirl

We should have a Twhirl + Seesmic preview in the very next days - Loic Le Meur from twhirl

This looks awesome! - Svartling

I think this what im looking for! - Michael Scott

awesome! - Barbara R. S.

wow - one of the furthest back boomerang ff threads i've seen - mike "glemak" dunn

nice! - .LAG liked that

Wow, this is pretty old. I got excited for a second, thought Loic had seen the light and was starting to care about Twhirl again. NOPE. - Shawn Farner

I've ridden only once without a helmet in as long as I can remember. Felt vulnerable! - Adam Loving from StumbleRead

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It's true. They work. - Andrew Feinberg

wow... that's amazing. how old is your cousin jesse? - dave mcclure

dave, my cousin's 30, just 1 year younger than me - Jesse Stay from twhirl

You can read her story, in her own words here. I'm inspired: http://thetopotheworld.blogspot.com/ - Jesse Stay from twhirl

This happened to a friend of mine at the beginning of the month. He didn't do so good in the accident, but the helmet obviously saved his life. Thankfully is on his way home tomorrow: http://www.caringbridge.org/visit... - Steve Lacey

I used to ride my bike without the helmet even though it is mandatory in Chennai, India. But after reading this I am not even going to the next street in my bike without helmet. - Sudar

I never wear a helmet. When hearing things like this, I always think of this article.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1.... In the Netherlands no one wears a helmet. It seems safe to me. - Peter Stuifzand

I was hit while riding to work in summer 2006 & did not want anyone to touch my helmet at all costs. If my brain was scrambled, I did not want anyone to touch my egg:) I highly recommend a helmet especially if you think you will not need one! Mine was almost the same color too & manufacturer, but there is no conspiracy there:) - Roney Smith

Bicyclists/motorcyclists that don't wear helmets are better called future organ donors - Brian Sullivan

Thanks for sharing. I ride often at traffic time between cars. always wear my helmet...itsg good to know that It does work :) - jonathan from twhirl

that's incredible... - Jamie Allen from twhirl

Wow, glad to hear your friend is doing well after that. I agree, helmets save lives. Regardless, I've many intentional close-calls by drivers who don't want to share the road. Unfortunately, this is the common attitude where I live (southern US). - pete

we wear helmets for everything: mtb, snowboarding, wakeboarding, skateboarding & even surfing - skulls are fragile why not put a protective layer around it (i also try real hard to not ride on streets - a high percentage of drivers are oblivious to bike riders)... - mike "glemak" dunn

I always ride in my helmet and stay to bike lanes as much as possible. Nice to know the safety tools work. Now, if I can just avoid that NYPD cop with a penchant for knocking people off their bikes. Hopefully, he won't transfer to LAPD. - Jason Toney

Peter Stuifzand, my cousin would be dead if she did not wear her helmet. That article is BS. Wear your helmet! - Jesse Stay from twhirl

Point blank. You are a moron if you ride without a helmet. Sorry, but that's true and you're just going to play into Darwinian theory should you continue to ride without one. Any 'real' cyclist (e.g - you've been hit by a car - and yes, I have been) will tell you this without reservation. Helmets work without a doubt. - AJ Kohn

I survived a nasty motorcycle crash in my youth and would also be dead without that helmet - which cracked in 2 like an egg (that would have been my head, as the nurse aptly put it!). - Susan Beebe

A friend who's a cop refers to motorcycles as donorcycles whenever she sees someone riding without a helmet. I figure that applies for bicycles, too. - ha3rvey (Hugs 50% off!)

I was on the way to work Monday morning while it was raining, when the third car in front of me spun out of control and flipped twice into a ditch. When I pulled over to help her out she was just fine. She only had a scratch on her left shoulder from the broken window and was not hurt anywhere else. THE REASON: She was wearing her seat belt. It's nice to hear that these devices are actually helping us! - David Cook

Wow! I wear mine! Didn't for years - I was lucky I guess. Thanks for posting that! - matthew hunt

OMG... Jesse, do you have a link other than here on FF? I have friends whose kids refuse to wear theirs, and seeing this may help. - Cyndy

Cyndy why not just link here - http://friendfeed.com/e... - Brian Sullivan

Dutch don't wear helmets and they don't get killed by cars http://www.ski-epic.com/amsterd.... - Peter Stuifzand

Actually they do get killed by cars. But culturally they are not inclined to wear helmets. - Brian Sullivan

Cyndy, with this being dug out of the grave, I just noticed your question. That particular picture is from my cousin's blog here: http://thetopotheworld.blogspot.com/2008... You can read the full story here: http://thetopotheworld.blogspot.com/2008... Search for "run over by car" and you can read about her entire ordeal. - Jesse Stay

My brother would not be alive today if he did not wear his helmet while riding his motorcycle; please wear a helmet! - Sandra

man - Shey

If it's nice enough to ride, I probably won't be bothering with the human-powered bike any longer. I always wear a helmet on my gas-powered bike. - MiniMage, enterRUPPted

As long as we won't have mountains, we Dutch will not wear those things. Otherwise we won't be able to recognise the tourists on bikes. - Ton Zijp

Thanks for sharing - I had a mishap with a car, wasn't wearing a helmet at the time, was lucky. If they don't see you, it doesn't matter either way. Wear the helmet! - Rick Bucich

This isn't as extreme as this but when I fell off my bike onto a sidewalk and broke my arm, I thought I was fine for a while. Later, my dad noticed that the whole front of my helmet was all scratched up and the visor in front was torn off! I realized that if I wasn't wearing my helmet on the 2 minute trip down the road, I probably wouldn't be typing this comment right now! Not that I'd be dead but I would have suffered some head damage, limiting my ability to do most things. - Kevin Lyons

Helmets for cyclists are mandatory in Australia. Still gives me the shudders when I'm travelling and see bareheaded bicyclists on the roads. - Kate Foy

:( - Paul Buchheit

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:( :( - Rachel Lea Fox

:-( - Kol Tregaskes

Related to the election? - τorƍue

:( - Ross Miller

that's so bad... - Eren Emre Kanal

:-( - Kevin Fox

τorƍue: Yes, as far as we know - Bret Taylor

Bret: Is this based on IP numbers located in Iran, or actual activity from those users? If it's IP based, it'd be interesting to see the activity on a user basis and see if they've been able to route around the blocking. - Ken Sheppardson

:( - marina remi

Could it be related to Twitter being blocked (and therefore the twitter traffic import being blocked)? - Stephan Osmont

): - Jim Norris

Some users are definitely going through proxies. This is total # of unique visits from IPs originating in Iran - Bret Taylor

That tells it's own, sad, story. - WoH: Minding her Steves

:((( - Oguz Serdar

Wow. - Rochelle

If Twitter were blocked and FriendFeed weren't, I'd expect an uptick in FriendFeed activity, not a 92% drop. - Kevin Fox

I.e. given all the users who've previously accessed the site from an Iran IP number, how many have been active from different numbers in the past 2 days. - Ken Sheppardson

Sad. - Jen (SquirrelGirl)

Instead of "liking" this, shouldn't we have an "unlike" button? - Steven Melfi

:( Bret: According to Stephen fry, these are the iran proxies: 218.128.112.18:8080 218.206.94.132:808 218.253.65.99:808 219.50.16.70:8080 . Can you track these IPs? - Roberto Bonini

I knew this day was coming. Too bad. - Robert Scoble

Steven - same feeling here. I always feel weird "liking" bad stories on FF - Mike Bracco

How does traffic from China look? Or North Korea? - τorƍue

do not like :( - Tamara

@τorƍue Twitter has been restored in China - Stephan Osmont

Hey... we saw issues with blogfa.com as well: http://blog.spinn3r.com/2009... - Kevin A. Burton

like for spread but not like for the situation - Imprenditore

I wonder what the international community can do about stuff like this. Eventually the "bad guys" will lose. - Michiel Sikkes

Hopefully, we'll never see a graph like this for Turkey... - Onur Şentüre

that's because the government has blocked access to friendfeed,twitter,facebook,youtube and ... after election and after protests in Iran cities ! - Farshad

Man... :( That's really a corrupt government. Hope it gets better soon. - Peter

That's horrible. - @barisunver #beyn.org

Kheyzaran mentioned over the weekend that both Twitter and FF were blocked for Iran starting I believe on Friday. He is using a proxy when possible to keep us updated - FFing Enigma

Bret, any analysis about how many people unable to access FF directly are still able to access it via proxy? - Daniel Dulitz

:-( - bookmeister

:( Let the voices be heard! - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

So sad... - Luka

Sigh :( - Havang

can you suggest a way in friendfeed to show the situation in iran to the world ? its very important - Farshad

I doubt any regular North Koreans have computers τorƍue - Eric

Daniel: Well, we are still getting a bunch of Farsi comments and posts. They may be Persians from outside Iran or from Iranians using proxies. We don't have a detailed analysis breaking those down at this point. - Bret Taylor

The stigmata of evil. - Tim Tyler

all cominucation devices are blocked .even phone & cell phones ! - MohammadReza

see this for example : http://abcnews.go.com/Interna... - Farshad

Watching the "guerrilla cyberwarfare" aspect of the elections and reactions has been fascinating. Iran's universities are obviously full of resourceful, passionate geeks. - John Craft

not good in terms of freedom - Sheri Fresonke Harper

this is really bad. i hope there's some resolution to this. the people or iran have shown a lot of strength and courage to protest the illegitimacy of recent events. i don't think this will stop things - Cee Bee

please help us , we are under attack ,change friendfeed logo if you can - فرزاد

@MVB we all are Protests - MohammadReza

That's sad. - EricaJoy

:( Dislike. - Ruchira S. Datta

:( - ◄ 道 ► D/\\/|I|D ッ

P.S. Kevin should turn the logo green in support of the Iranian's being disenfranchised. - EricaJoy

:(( - رامین

For those that are in Iran: Have you tried http://fftogo.com as a workaround? - FFing Enigma

make a room for us, invite your friends we will fill it with latest news - Farshad

I'm completely for having a fair vote, but I'm not sure that I'd want to try and align FriendFeed with a particular candidate, which is what a green logo would imply. - Kevin Fox

Many iranians using proxies to access FF. and therefore their IPs changes to fake IP . - آدمیرال

MohammadReza: Maryam's mom is still able to call her relatives and friends in Tehran, so they are keeping some voice traffic open, if not all. - Robert Scoble

Farshad, I'm trying to post news here: http://friendfeed.com/world-n... - Kol Tregaskes

thanks kol :) - Farshad

@Kevin, totally understandable. - EricaJoy from IM

If Iran thinks they have nothing to fear, then why block Friendfeed? - Frode Stenstrøm

Frode: because the government is like China: they believe that by retarding the flow of information they will reduce the threat of protests and governmental overthrow. - Robert Scoble

Very reminiscent of the prelude to the fall of the Shah - Alan Morris

I don't speak Persian, so I don't know all the searches, but there are still (luckily) a lot of Persian users posting: http://friendfeed.com/search.... If you are Persian and looking for updates, try our search engine to find the few users who still have access. - Bret Taylor

Frode: and in Iran's case, they are run by conservative religious authorities and they don't like the fact that they are not in control of information flow like they used to be. They like to think they can still control information sources and, since they can't, they try to block places where their citizens can go to share information. - Robert Scoble

is it a joke? iranian users seems the %90 of friend feed. it could not be real! - Fırat Demirel

Firat: There are no units on the vertical axis of the chart. - Ken Sheppardson

Firat: This is a chart of traffic from Iran, not of FF's total traffic. - Kevin Fox

Firat, i doubt that this graph is a percentage graph... probably more likely that it's measuring hits, sessions, or total data transfered (mb, kb, etc) - Chris Heath

Kevin: what impact did this have on FF's overall traffic? - Robert Scoble

Robert: Iran is the #6 country for FriendFeed in terms of page views per day. - Bret Taylor

something is cooking out there... - mehdi

Thanks all for answers. i told that it could not be real.. :) excuse me, i ve just read Bret's notice and looked at breaking point. i saw what i've missed before.. bad news for ff and iran.. :( - Fırat Demirel

These statistics are incredible, especially the normally heavy useage of FF in Iran. - Curt Mercadante

Bret Taylor, we can tag our pix and vids about iran election by an english keyword such as 'iran' or 'iranelection'. I think it will help to ff non-persian users to find out more about unrests in iran. - آدمیرال

Iran restored cell phone service Sunday that had been down in the capital since Saturday. But Iranians still could not send text messages from their mobile phones, and the government increased its Internet filtering in an apparent attempt to undercut opposition voices. Social networking sites including Facebook and Twitter were also not working. - Üstün Üzüm

Do *not* like. :( - Pete D

:( - Mitch

http://www.boston.com/bigpict... - فرزاد

آقا یکی توضیح بده اینکه من(ما) لایک میزنیم! عملا دیسلایک ه ! :( - younes

Younes says that our likes to this graph mean dislike to tehran's regime censorship - آدمیرال

I can't find any evidence of Twitter being blocked in Iran. Anyone? - Martin Bryant

TechCrunch just picked this up: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009... - Robert Scoble

Thanks for the translation آدمیرال ! - Ross Miller

ممنونم آدمیرال عزیز - younes

خواهش دوست من. - آدمیرال

martin: those words are not mine actually from a news article from washinton post. - Üstün Üzüm

On twitter people are retweeting the IPs and ports of unblocked proxies, can we do something like that here? - Canageek

martin, i'm from iran. twitter is blocked. what evidence you wanna? screenshot!? - آدمیرال

yes Canageek. we use proxies for tweeting - آدمیرال

Authorities blocking the internet are just reinforcing solidarity between people, can't they understand ? - stanjourdan

Stanislas: not to mention they encourage their smartest and richest people to leave (the ones who have technical skills). There's a reason why Silicon Valley has 10,000 or more Iranians living here. Their government sucks and the people are getting tired of it. Of course if their government was great I would never have met my wife (who grew up in Tehran). So, there is good to come out of a crappy government! :-) - Robert Scoble

it has always seemed to me that the iranian user base is ENORMOUS here. wow. unbelievable. - edythe

It is interesting how much civil unrest that is brewing across the globe towards their governments. The knee jerk reactions in attempting to block certain websites shows how much they didn't expect the net to become such a widespread conduit for cutting through the bs and informing those that wish to know. I wish those who take a stand all the best. - alphaxion

:( - Roberto

Another way for those that are in Iran is to access through Netvibes (but I don't know if it works or if it's blocked too), adding Friendfeed, Gmail and so on such as modules - Roberto

Thanks for sharing this, Bret. It's valuable evidence of what's going on, evidence which wouldn't have been available even a few years ago. - Michael Nielsen

sad - Pedro Beltrao

Very interesting...so much for democracy and voting rights in Iran... - freedom fighter mom

If anybody in Iran feels up to it, can you temporarily disable your proxy and run a traceroute to friendfeed.com and twitter.com then post the results here? - EricaJoy

Bret and Paul, can you let us know if the traffic comes back, which would tell us they've unblocked FriendFeed? - Robert Scoble

Robert: absolutely, we will let everyone know when it comes back up - Bret Taylor from email

Steven: You Like that it was posted, not the content of the post. - Tanath

Bret, thanks for sharing the info about the dive. Shame, but what could we have expected from the Iranian status quo? - Jon Osterholm

البته یه چیز هم هست اونکه بعد از فیلترینگ همه با آی پی غیر ایرانی می ان فرندفید و برای همنی آمارشون اینجا ثبت نمیشه ... وگرنه فکر نمی کنم از لحاظ تعداد نفراتی که میومدن کم شده باشه ... بلکه هم بیشتر - Hamed Safa

@بی بی, you might try https://friendfeed.com/ - Jim Norris

:( - imabonehead

Damn. - Steven Perez

Good luck to all of you trying to get around the censorship. I hope the big sites are doing what they can to help out. - Eric

Looking at the potential of this event in the future for numerous causes is mind-boggling. Really amazing. - Charlie Anzman

Come to think of it, does FF have a presence in China? I'd imagine it's blocked there. I've seen Chinese on here, but never sure if that's from China or speakers outside. - anna sauce

Tnx Bret - CNFRMST

Thnaks :) - Exir

ببین شب انتخاباتی چکار کردیم با این فرفر. wow! - ابوهدی

چه همه لااااااااااااااااایک! - ابوهدی

:(( - AJ Batac :)

Damn. - Derrick

Expected. - Michael W. May

Yes, Friendfeed is blocked in Iran. Right now the papers and TV channels here are ‎controlled by the government and our access to satellite channels is blocked too. ‎Friendfeed and Twitter are quite vital for us now. Our main source of exchanging ‎information and news is Friendfeed. Via Friendfeed we let everyone know that where ‎people need help and where to go and how to help them and... more... - Selma

Selma: does https://friendfeed.com/ work for you? - Bret Taylor

Nope, they have blocked all https addresses, we have had to sign in to Friendfeed via anti-filters for the past few months. - Selma

Can't we "help" in some way? Providing proxies, I don't know, the kind of stuff pirates do. Pirates, and people trying to make a Revolution happen.... - Zackatoustra

It may not be long before Turkey joins the party. - Sarp Tüzün

It's very sad to see this happen - Michael Fidler

tnx all of you... - شاطر امین

internet was our last hope ...but it block...and we cant use it easily... - Opium

I just spoke with my friend Andres, the main BBC correspondent for the Middle East/Afghanistan, and he mentioned the web is being fire walled in Iran much the same as the the "Great Firewall" during last year's Olympics in China. - sofarsoShaw BAZINGA!

The Iranian websites that people used to exchange information about the election protests ‎in Iran are under cyber-attacks by the government forces and from anonymous sources. ‎Many of them are down right now. These Iranian websites were our few last remaining ‎channels to inform people. What can we do about that? Is there anyone out there who can help us with this?‎ - شاطر امین

i was 53rd active user in friendfeed until this filtering. now i can open FF with proxies and if i can fine. a Vpn but many Vpn here come from companies that have relations with security services, i thunk they allow us to bypass filternig and then, they will arrest who has wrote against their goals - خیزران

Can't we transfer the data/databases of the sites you, iranian guys, use to any new domain we could buy? I want to help. Not by throwing rocks to "security service" forces, but, at least, by making possible for what YOU have to say to go public, worldwide. - Zackatoustra

so so sorry for iran people... I hope they will win... - Tanaydin Sirin

Some amazing images from Iran - http://ff.im/42pgD - Brent - Yes I am

Does http://fftogo.com work still? - FFing Enigma

Selma: 1- I don't use a proxy but clearing all but one (deleting them all logs me out) instance of each friendfeed.com cookie name and refreshing the page always solves this for me in Firefox. Has never happened on Lunascape or IE. Good luck. - Alexandros Georgiadis

Friendfeedがイランでblockされているというコトらしい。いったいどういう理由でだか分からないけれど……もし、国内のゴタゴタの影響であればいずれtwitterも、ということになりかねないのかも。／でも、fftogoを使えば迂回できるのかな？ - Sakurai.Catshop

What about email, amin.m? Are you able to post to FF by emailing share@friendfeed? - FFing Enigma

Could http://dev.ctor.org/f2p, http://frienddeck.com or http://peoplebrwsr.com work for friendfeed? - Alexandros Georgiadis

Very sad. - Parth Awasthi

The reason I ask is because if you can email a post, then try sending it to share@friendfeed and also to YourUserName@friendfeed. Then when someone comments you'll receive an email about it and you can comment back to the thread via email as well. - FFing Enigma

:(( - Nimaa from MojiPage

No wonder why ! - Pelin

+ don't use your ISP's DNS server, verify your Firewall, search for rootkits.. + If you really wanna use Tor, be 'mobile', check the onion's status, don't be too confident, continue to use encrypted protocols & 'mobile' ports. At least, read Tor's docs and articles about Tor & privacy/security.. - Thierry R. Andriamirado

I don't know if these can help but I put them here anyway http://www.noiseriver.com/ http://moopz.com/ - M F

Alexandros: Frienddeck could work for certain parts - posts and queries against user accounts are proxied through the App Engine, searches are direct against Friendfeed so they could probably not work. - Paul Kinlan

Thanks :(( - Mahdi Motamed

:( booooooo - Duncan Rawlinson

:o - FF88

DAMN! - Vicey

whoa, NOT good - Susan Beebe

We wish the people of Iran well in these difficult times - Marc

Not good at all. Best wishes to the Iranian FFers. I hope this whole mess gets cleared up quickly and with as little violence as possible - Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)

this is terribly wrong - Francisco Costa

A government that takes away people's Friendfeed will not last long. - Goran Zec

WOW CRAZY - Matt Kaufman

I like that 667 people liked this, that's 667 people hoping it all gets resolved justly and peacefully. - SteVe C

now we are 676 people who liked that =) hoping too everthing gets resolved peacefully. - Ibrahim Tarlig

Bret, is there any update on this? Is activity still low? - Kol Tregaskes

Yes, we are still being blocked - Bret Taylor

:-( - Arif Siddiquee

definitely DON'T LIKE this... >_< ...would love to be able do more than retweeting proxies - Daniele

Best regards from Chile to all iranian people, we know a lot about bad government and human rights. Good luck, strength and courage to all of you. - Roberto Arancibia

:( - Shey

It's to bad there is such attempts to block free flow of information, how long will it be before there is more amazing differences happening? Such limits, hmm. - Raymond Marr aka Knatchwa

They have to keep the militants in check. Thank goodness for the pipes that were broken. - tony

Digg.com is block in Iran now. - Sahandram

:-( - Paolo Valzania

:(( - Mitchell Tsai

Interesting censorship- same can happen in America - I would like to talk to you abt Friendfeed and bringing over some large groups do you have time? - JanSimpson

I've seen those censorship about FriendFeed (Iran). Do you know some interesting and objective blogposts about it? - Thierry R. Andriamirado from email

:( - Rachel Lea Fox

Do you have a similar graph as ff's been blocked in China? - K.D.

#GFW - xywf

And China now has a similar blockage. You should also check on it. - Kenyth

Sometimes we forget how easy we have it than other countries. But until people revolt & I mean a HUGE revolution injustices will still go on. - Gabriella Sannino

پرلایک ترین فید فرفره این - رامین

jeddi? - Hamed Safa from IM

che jaleb , oonvaght por comment dartarin feed kodoome? bebinim mishe feed 2khtare mardom e farzad davan davan ro be oon beresoonim? - Hamed Safa from IM

ba mobile am ... to bebin bara manam tarif kon :D - Hamed Safa from IM

:))))))))) - حُسین‍‌ آفلاینـ

is it still filtered? - آرام

یادش بخیر! - ابوهدی

Don't forget IE7. It's just barely better than IE6. - Matt M (inactive)

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Many companies feel that moving from IE to an alternate browser (Mozillla) is not worth the investment/ IT/ training. Big mistake in my opinion. - David Lanning

Matt's right: IE7 is a clunky POS as well. The only thing good about it is that they fixed a few CSS bugs, bumped up the GC thresholds, and fixed the PNG transparency issue. Oh, and they somehow managed to build tabs into the chrome using C++/win32 code and *still* made them freakishly slow to render. - Joel Webber

There are a lot of complex reasons why people *can't* upgrade (IT policy, legacy intranet apps, etc). But the reason so many people don't think it's worth the trouble is that we all bend over backwards to support it, and we simply don't *try* features that would perform poorly on IE. It's slow enough on the apps that are out there, but what people often don't think about are the apps and features that never see the light of day because they're unimplementable on that foul monstrosity. - Joel Webber

Every version of IE should die horrible obsolete deaths. Unless of course you enjoy re-writing everything you code for the web. Seriously, has anyone ever did any html which displays perfectly the first time on all browsers including IE on the first shot? - Fry Ink

IE's a BROWSER?? Isn't that the same for example? /sarcasm - Robert Sanchez Jr

We have had our Application Control software blocking it for 6 months now - Simon Bryan

Joel, have seen and heard people *justifying* that if you make things ok for IE6, they'll run like anything on modern browsers- so much for not trying features that'll perform poorly on IE6. I think the proper way to get around this problem is to get the usage % to such a dismal low that lethargic sysads will have no option but to finally invest their 'savings' from an era of not developing applications for modern browsers, into upgrading them. - Ashish Tiwari

Cool - Kevin J Hatton

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Very cool product. Would have been nice if they were clearer about what the product actually is on the home page - had to dig thru to the products page to know that it was a solvent you apply to a surface. Wasn't sure if the product was a solvent/coating or if it was in the marker. I would buy this. - The Fat Oracle

This product has been around for awhile, right? I could have sworn I've seen this stuff in non-web media. - Zach Landes

Zach, yeah I'm sure but very cool! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Oh, definitely Kol. If I were building one of those trendy silicon valley offices (kinda like the one in the photo...)I'd totally have to add this. - Zach Landes

Or if I were a parent of a 3 year old. My sis & her husband just bought a house. They could so use this given my niece's affinity for crayons. - The Fat Oracle

the walls in the study rooms of our new library are like this. - Marie

nice! One of the walls of our conference room is coated with a material that makes it a whiteboard as well. Very handy - Tamara

It's uncomfortable while drawing in the conner - Tony

does it smell good? the paint. - Carolyn Chan

I really want this for my office! - Michele Lorito-Chase

I was looking at this just yesterday for the room we'll be homeschooling in. I'm excited to try it. - Heather Solos

Ironically, I just finished making a homemade white board with clear acrylic and some hardboard and some woodworking. If only I had know, I could saved a lot of work.... - Jim

This is so cool. I was actually talking with someone yesterday about having a room with whiteboard in my house. So this was very useful. THanks! - *Tiffany Diamond*

*drools* - Colby

just painted my dd's room with chalkboard paint. we're a little behind. - kelly

GOTTA get me some for my office!! link to order? Zee U mightAs Well make a few on this! *giggle* - Arleen Boyd

@Arleen If i had known there'd be this big a response.. :P - Zee.

Want! - Rick Cogley

Just wait til the late 2010s, when nanotechnologically-based paints appear. You will be able to paint computer screens onto any surface in your home. - J. D. Ebberly

I wonder how it compares with this one, which is 8x cheaper http://www.ronshomeandhardware.com/Product... - David Lynch

You can use the feature to stop conversations that are getting out of hand, or to post entries for which you don't want any discussion. Likes will continue to be allowed when comments are disabled. - Bret Taylor

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the FBI is here to arrest the MOB - iTbay

You should call it Extended Twitter mode - ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ

END OF THREAD - Josh Haley

friendfeed turns into a forum... - Hüseyin Mert

Awesome. Thanks FriendFeed! Can you re-enable comments later? (Edit: yes, you can.) - Mark Trapp

Don't make me use the B& Hammer! - CannonGod

I certainly hope 'Breaking News' has a sense of humor. - John Craft

@Mark: temporarily "suspend" comments? - ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ

I'm not sure how I feel about this one. - G Dub of the Carolinas

Chris: yeah, like when you're trying to use the first few comments for your own commentary. It looks like you can. Eeeeeeeeee! - Mark Trapp

I think it helps those people who feel they are being made fun of in their posts. - Zulema ⋅ spicy cocoa tart

Mark: yep, re-enabling involves just clicking a link - Bret Taylor

+1 Gunny. It seems like an interesting and somewhat useful idea on it's own, but I can see many applications for it that aren't exactly in the interests of everyone, or even specific people, for what it's worth... - Tyson Key

Sweet, thanks Bret. One bug I'm noticing is that if I disable comments on my own feed (that is, from http://friendfeed.com/itafroma), my picture shows up next to the entry and doesn't go away until I refresh. - Mark Trapp

Mark: thanks for the bug report - Bret Taylor

Bret, it looks like right now it doesn't show that comments are disabled until a user tries to comment, then it errors and says that comments are disabled. Not sure if that is widespread or if I just had a weird interaction. - joey

Of course, the existing moderation options were already a double-edged sword. "Sticky" posts in rooms seems like a good extension to this, on the flip-side, though. - Tyson Key

I can see the use for this, but that doesn't mean I like it. - Shawn Kirsch

Actually, it may be displaying properly for me now. EDIT: I see, it just isn't updated in realtime ;) - joey

While I welcome this addition to the many useful features on FF, I do feel that you should see all comments on a subject, as this enriches our experience. - Kevin J Hatton

YAY! - Jannifer @wordsforliving

Well done Bret, I will never use it though because I am a social creature - Mark

so can we call this the 'arrington feature'? - Chris Heath

Well arrington has yet to come back as promised - Mark

is there any way to disable commenting from all posts in a specific group? - Zee.

Zee: no, this feature is entry-by-entry - Bret Taylor

Good to see you are still able to re-share the entries with disabled comments. - Kol Tregaskes

@Bret dang...is that something you'll consider adding? - Zee.

I actually want to turn this feature on automatically for any item older than 30 days as a defense against spam. - Robert Scoble

can we get @scoble the moon on a stick too ;) - Phill Price

Phill: hey, if Arrington can get a feature, we all should be able to get features! :-) - Robert Scoble

Robert++ - Rah-PM 2012

Scoble got thousands of people to join Friendfeed! How about a little love for the big guy! - Mark

I see the main use for such a feature as being a way to post 'announcement' or 'stick post' entries but we'd really need the comment box back with the share box and the option to disable comments from there, i.e. before it's posted. - Kol Tregaskes

Hehe, Robert. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

You know you have influence when a company will modify their product to get you to use it again ;) - Mark

Bret: the error message you get if you try to comment on a comment blocked post takes you to the generic FAQ page - perhaps it should go to something specific explaining the blocked comments feature. - Mike Bracco

feature request: i want FF to flow in a <marquee> format instead of a stream! (kidding) - sean percival

Is this an attempt to make FriendFeed more like a blogging platform? It sort of feels that way to me. - Mitch

http://friendfeed.com/seanper... - Jeff (Team マクダジ )

@scoble I'm trying to think of a feature from me- but I can't! - Phill Price

Agree with Mike, that could do with fixing, Bret. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Bret or anyone: Where can you find a list of people you've blocked? - Myrna

Myrna - Ssshhh - don't speak of such a thing... blocking is an unforgivable sin here! - Jannifer @wordsforliving

But you know on twitter or fb you can unblock. Someone that I didn't know came on a great discussion about kabbalah and said F**k kabbalah so I blocked him. - Myrna

Myrna, a sin maybe but you can find out here: http://ffblockr.com/ :-) - Kol Tregaskes

myrna, http://friendfeed.com/setting... is what you're looking for... goes back all the way - Chris Heath

I think the addition of this feature may warrant the need to add a dislike button. - Mark Krynsky

Thanks Kol! - Myrna

Jannnifer: I TOTALLY disagree with you. Blocking on FriendFeed is a very important thing to do to keep your view clear of jerks, spammers, and other people you just don't want interacting with your content. I don't let jerks into my living room and the block feature is how I keep my online living room clean, too. - Robert Scoble

LOOOOL you better watch out if FF grows too fast, we're gonna be using the block button a LOT - Myrna

Robert, did you see why I blocked this character. Jerimiah probably would have blocked him from using FF. - Myrna

@Kol - Looks like FFBlockr is broken/down at the moment... - Tyson Key

@Tyson It seems so - Roberto

I guess I can see the need for this in some respects, but doubt I'd ever use it. The same way I feel about Blocking......someone would have to be really destructive to get me to do that. I just hope we don't end up with more and more "tools" that stop the natural flow and interaction on FF. - Bonnie Foster

Chris, Thx it worked! - Myrna

So Bonnie, would you block a FF stranger who came onto a discussion and said F**k the subject or your discussion? - Myrna

Bret: I think this feature should let the entry owner to be able to comment without having to re-enable comments (and shutting them down again after that) - alieb

Myrna....not unless he/she was such a pest that they did this kind of thing all the time.....kept making negative comments, or tried to continually start something. If it was someone who just happened to pop in and make their comment I would chalk it up to them being a jerk, having a bad day, I don't know, maybe just hating that subject. People just aren't going to always agree with everything you say. :) - Bonnie Foster

Scoble and Krynsky are right, options to turn off comments after 30 days, and a dislike option are needed. Dislikes should be capped at 5 a day though. - Shawn Kirsch from BuddyFeed

Bonnie, you mean if I came on one of your threads and just dumped a FU, you would just brush it off? It's negative energy. I don't know about you but I try to keep things positive. Btw, you can disagree and stay positive. - Myrna

Myrna..not disagreeing that it isn't negative energy, and yes, you can disagree with someone and stay positive. Would I do it, of course not....but everyone is different, and some people are jerks. One FU however, would not crush me, or for that matter, destroy my thread if everyone else was commenting with a positive attitude. - Bonnie Foster

Too cool. Thank you. :) - Meryn Stol

Just been reading about this over on Techcrunch. Sounds a reasonable idea, although it will be interesting to see how it works out in practice - George Hall (Australia)

Ok I understand the need to stopping comment when the Mob starts forming, you know the tar and feather, pitchfork and everything, that makes some sense. What I don't understand is why you would post an entry if you didn't want any discussion. If you don't want it discussed then don't post it. - Kim Landwehr

I am a group admin, I post the room guidelines in a thread and close the comments so that I can stick the thread url in the group description and new users will be able to read a short and to the point list instead of a 150+ comments thread. Sounds good, Kim? - alieb

Ok, alieb that makes sense I was thinking more of a regular post, wasn't thinking of a room guideline situation. - Kim Landwehr

You're welcom Myrna, i remembered a thread from a while ago with that link in it and just did a few searches until i found it - i can't find anywhere on the help/faq the friendfeed.com/settings/modifications (for your history of subscriptions and blocks as well) also i can't find the imaginary friends feature linked anywhere in the help/faq either (/settings/imaginary) -- private groups... more... - Chris Heath

Kim, also - if we had this feature back in march scoble wouldn't have had to butcher his post to stop people from trying to enter a contest that was long over http://friendfeed.com/scoblei... - also this helps with spam as a popular post can be preserved without having to be attended to to fight of spammers who would try to latch to a popular search result - Chris Heath

Bret, I like the timed idea some, but having the owner always able to comment seems right. - Chris Heath

Robert, I don't see 'blocking' to be important but then I don't have jerks even trying to get into my living room so have no need. ;-) Been here well over a year and yet to block anyone. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Tyson, darn. Sorry I didn't check it before posting. - Kol Tregaskes

Keep it comin' Bret. Someone ... PLEASE write a Friendfeed guide before I have to ?! (Although ... I'm still lost in the halls looking for what used to be rooms ?! :) - Charlie Anzman

I believe they call those Groups now, unless they're renamed in a future iteration. - Tyson Key

Thank you Tyson .... :) - Charlie Anzman

Can we get a feature added to the hide interface to 'Hide all entire with comments disabled'? If you don't want me on your thread, I may not want you in my stream. This is a place of discussion, not a bull horn :) - Johnny from iPhone

This is a great idea Johnny and it adds a balance to the whole situation. People who just want to use FF to promote themselves with no discussion could be easily hidden from view this way. - G Dub of the Carolinas

well then you might as well block them, right? - Chris Heath

@Johnny Worthington, I am totally right there with ya on that one. Why bother reading something on FF that I can't respond to? Isn't FF for conversation? - (dot)lizard kelly

But Chris, they may still comment here and may comment on my stuff. Because they don't want interaction on their posts doesn't mean I should rule out the possibility of having interactions with them all together. It's about the scalple, not the sword :) - Johnny from iPhone

me no likey - BEX

Arrington won't have to see it on his account everytime he logs in now - Mark

Because he secretly loves getting attention. Not many people know this about him. - Mitch

I like this ability, but agree with Johnny W on what he says on not wanting to read what he cannot respond to. - Rick Cogley

I get your point Johnny, i was kind of joking, but also kinda serious. - Chris Heath

Robert Scoble: Oh No! I was was being sarcastic and kidding with Myrna about blocking being an unforgivable sin!! I agree 100% with what you said above -----> "Blocking on FriendFeed is a very important thing to do to keep your view clear of jerks, spammers, and other people you just don't want interacting with your content. I don't let jerks into my living room and the block feature is... more... - Jannifer @wordsforliving

Thanks. I can't imagine ever using it, but thanks all the same. - Steven Perez

Gosh, I hope Robert Scoble will be able to see my last comment since this thread is so long! - Jannifer @wordsforliving

Interesting, but what about a 'Generate Comments' option for those us that are, shall we say, boring and get little to no activity and want to seem like they are interesting people too. ;-> - Grant Bierman

I fear that this addition will pave the way for more one way transmission. Friendfeed is about sharing and interaction. I might actually have to start using the block funtionality if I start seeing rant or mlm posts. - Mathew A. Koeneker

Excellent change. - Son of Groucho

If you want to hide comment disabled posts preemptively and user scripts are an option for you, take a look at this script update I released tonight: (only affects you, and only in effect while running the script) http://friendfeed.com/friendf... - Micah

TechCrunchで報じられていた「梅毒問題」への対策の一つ、荒れ始めたスレッドをコメント不可にする機能が実装されたわけね。仕事が早いなぁ。 #friendfeed - Sakurai.Catshop from iPhone

Le Speaky Le English - Mark

oo yeni özellik gelmiş.. süper.. - Profesyonel Öğrenci

Yorumları kapatma özelliği. - Can Turanlı

thanks - to "enable" comments, there is a direct link - to disable... it is necessary to click Edit and select the option... Why? a different design? - Kishore Balakrishnan

Kishore, having 'enable' as a direct link serves as a visual reminder that you've disabled comments on that item. Plus you wouldn't want 'disable' to be a direct link, as you might click it by accident. - FFing Enigma

@Matthew - You can disable it, if you're the owner of the post, and at present, it's possible for users to edit their comments after comment freezing, as it's implemented now. - Tyson Key

A surprisingly controversial move. Good addition, but I can't find myself ever using it. - Pete D from iPhone

this feature seems in accordance with existing moderation options available to post owners - Mike Chelen

Noticed this one. Good! - Thierry R. Andriamirado

Yeah, that is something that I have been thinking about. - Kevin Bondelli

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Less thinking more action ;) - Alberto Reyes

A tooltip maybe on hover over the quote graphic. Keep it clean - Andrew Smith

Optional feature - timestamp - not default. - Susan Beebe

great idea! - Sarah Perez

it must be part of the API, since fftogo seems to include a time stamp on the comments - Trent Olson

I'm sure they do store the timestamp, even if it isn't currently displayed. - Mack D. Male

Yeah, it's in the api, all comments & likes are timestamped - Glenn Slaven

I think this is a perfect plan. The only issue I might have is that the time information might take-over the conversations. It might just look more cluttered than FF already is. - Ryne Nelson

It would be useful sometimes. - Morton Fox

It is in the API (I use them in fftogo). I vote that the timestamp should appear as text when you hover over the "thought bubble" to the left. - Benjamin Golub

All comments are time-stamped in AlrertThingy and feedalizr - Stephen B from Alert Thingy

Comments are time stamped in bTT as well. - Francois Bochatay from bTT

and also in twhirl - Marco Kaiser from twhirl

agreed. Timestamps are important - Peter Dawson

What about a comment alert?! How do you follow conversations on ff!? - TommasoSorchiotti

Not sure if this will add to the functionality, but should be something they can try out... - Dennis Goedegebuure

Not sure a comment alert is necessary. Comments bring the post up to the top of the timeline, which makes it available for anyone who is currently paying attention to Friendfeed. (Not sure why anyone would want their attention brought to Friendfeed if it isn't already there, that would be a huge productivity drain). - Jason Wehmhoener

Please, please remember that the whole world doesn't run on PDT. I don't want to see timestamps in my FF in gReader and have to always try to guess whether the west coast is 17, 16, or 15 hours behind. If you must display timestamps, please put them in GMT. Setting the timestamps on my FF page/in my FF feed to be correct in my local timezone would be even nicer. - James Polley

we know which came first... but in n argument the comments can edit. that makes time stamping very important so we know when someone made a change - NoahDavidSimon

a timeline function in general would be nice, make everything more timeframe friendly - Ruben Llibre

Show times either in GMT or in my own timezone, and just make it a tooltip for the quote balloon or something. Don't want it to look cluttered. - Pat Hawks

just make the time relative from each comment, so I know who said what when in perspective. like 5 minutes later Noah David Simon said. <--this opens up - NoahDavidSimon

like i said earlier about plurk :) - kosmar

Is i really important to know when every single comment is made? Only the last one would really be useful, could have 'last comment on june 1 at..." right beside the date of the post. - John Duff

If the timestamp is a tooltip, then it isn't really "in the way." Maybe we can have all the timestamps as tooltips, except the most recent comment will have the timestamp printed out below it, like John said. - Rishabh Mishra (p248)

I am so tired of entering an empty room and talking to myself for twenty minutes. lol - Russellreno

A needed feature for sure I agree. I suggested this to the FF feedback room some weeks ago. - Mike Fruchter

Any news? - Amiroo ™

<--- try hover your mouse cursor on that little dialog icon - 我是真砂！

Sorry it's not more obvious, but if you hover your mouse over the comment icon you will see the time that the comment was made. Thanks for letting us know that it's hard to find! The feedback is much appreciated. - Ross Miller

I believe they are timestamped but this data is not yet displayed.... you're right ! - David Berrebi

other than timestamp I also want to be able to like the comments individually =] - Özgür D. Cyric

This thread shows what happens when nobody reads the comments before theirs - Rah-PM 2012

Agreed. The entire time... - Zachary Poley from twhirl

Rahsheen, your point is awesome right now :) - Zachary Poley from twhirl

this feed tells me that noone reads the comments before theirs =] =] j/k - Özgür D. Cyric

Yes,sure. The problems is how to realize it? - Motor Industry

Ross Miller:Thanks, my bad lots of greasemonkey junk keep me away to recognize that - Amiroo ™

<<Wikipedia (www.wikipedia.com) is one such site, a place where 100 or so volunteers have been working since January to compile a free encyclopedia. Using a relatively unknown and simple software tool called Wiki, they are involved in a kind of virtual barn-raising. Their work, which so far consists of some 10,000 entries ranging from Abba to zygote, in some ways resembles the ad hoc effort that went into building the Linux operating system.>> - Philipp Lenssen

Try http://friendfeed.com/search... It's also fun to watch the embedded search on the blog blog post (http://friendfeed.com/search...). You can see people discussing the blog post, from the blog post, in real time! - Paul Buchheit

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cooool - Dobromir Hadzhiev

coooool - zsafwan 

GREAT ! - stanjourdan

Eeee. Awesome. - Mark Trapp from iPhone

Impressive! Now you can save real time searches as embeddable widgets. That's just awesome! This is a massively POWERFUL feature. Thank you FF team! - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

Lol, you flipped the switch before the post came out as far as I can tell. I was searching for it and I couldn't see it. - Daniel J. Pritchett

Yowsa. Makes quick easy work out of social media monitoring, don't it? - Ian Wilker

YAY!!! FriendFeed staff rocks, that's all there is to it =) - FFing Enigma

Congrats Paul to you and your team! Another one bites the dust! - Jorge Escobar

WAAAAAAAAA.. meta real time search.. love the concept of embed a real-time search !! Way to Team FF -- luv u guys !! :)- - Peter Dawson

Do you guys sleep? Honestly, love the constant output and attention you guys pay to user feedback. I know this highly requested and probably not easy to implement. - Frankie Warren

Twitter Killer! - David Schmidt

Thanks so much Paul & Co. Excellent work! - Leo Laporte

hey love they way they launched search.. espcially when its close to "Search Marketing Day 2009" !1 - Peter Dawson

Thanks Leo. Jim and Gary did most of the work on this one though. - Paul Buchheit

Track is back! This is a gamechanger. - Mike Doeff from iPhone

Track is back! - Christian Burns from iPhone

Excellent news. - LPH™ and his dog P™ from BuddyFeed

I think I'm going to scream if I hear "track" again - someone please define it for me - Jesse Stay

Wow, great work! - Meryn Stol

I stand in awe of your hackfullness. - Ted Gilchrist

Good work. Much-anticipated. - Louis Gray

@Jesse: It's a dead twitter command "track keyword" sends you realtime updates whenever the word is used. Think of it like realtime google alerts for friendfeed. - Daniel J. Pritchett

I'm pretty sure Gillmor et al kept calling it "track" because that's what Twitter called it back when they had it for a week. - Daniel J. Pritchett

On a related note, live embeddable searches mean that I can hack together my own FF embeds for the pages that don't have them yet, like say "comment:dpritchett" http://friendfeed.com/search... - Daniel J. Pritchett

Daniel, Twitter never had this - this isn't "track" - Jesse Stay

you guys rock. - Karoli

...wowsers! Very nice! - JA Castillo

The blogpost said they're working to implement "keyword notifications" Jesse, that will be "track" - Frankie Warren

Twitter's brought back track, it's just no one cares. You can now have updates by keyword on Twitter pushed to you, via XMPP, just like track used to. Gillmor says that's not track. - Jesse Stay

That's why I hate the term "track" - no one knows what it is. The way Paul is explaining it, as real-time search, is a much better way of explaining it. - Jesse Stay

I guess we're still missing the realtime notifications piece that folks want. You can shape the firehose to watch terms in realtime but you can't yet get it pushed outside of FF via email or IM? - Daniel J. Pritchett

Daniel, Twitter has that right now, but Gillmor says that's not track - Jesse Stay

/me prints up a few hundred "That's not track!" t-shirts - Daniel J. Pritchett

Jesse: Oh, i'm with you... Real-Time Search is a better term :) - Frankie Warren

BTW, integrating this into my blog right now - Jesse Stay

Me too Jesse. Making a new static page for that comment:dpritchett search I mentioned - Daniel J. Pritchett

this is definitely cool and all, but what about API? We are falling way behind on feature sets :) - Tim Hoeck

It's like an alternative to watching TV, in a literary sort of way. - Ted Gilchrist

awesome!:) - m.0

kewl! - phil baumann

Yay! This is the killer feature (once it's in the API, of course ;) - Brandon Titus

I'd love to see a blog post about how this is implemented. Real-time search has some interesting problems. - Chris Lamprecht

I take it back - I can't integrate this into my blog until I can filter it to a single list. I really need an embed for "comment:dpritchett list:e20" except lists are still virtual in that no one other than me can see them unless I use the atom export. - Daniel J. Pritchett

Wow you guys rock! - Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど

I am sloooooooooooow. But what/where is the template to make the embeddable widget. please? - Marg Uerite

You're right Jesse - it's not exactly Track but it's getting a lot closer. The old Twitter Track allowed you to set up multiple search terms (e.g. track iphone) and get those delivered to your IM with zero time lag. At any time you could type "track" to see what you're currently tracking and "untrack" to untrack something - e.g. "untrack iphone". There are some third party tools that... more... - Mike Doeff

Paul, is there a way to change the title of the embed? The long search string looks kinda bad. - Jesse Stay

Mike, Twitter offers that today. Gillmor says it's not Track. - Jesse Stay

Marg, after you do a search, click the "Share / embed search" link to get the embed code. - Dan Hsiao

Jesse, are you sure? Can you provide a URL describing this feature? I think you're referring to Twitter Search (and saved searches) which is totally different. - Mike Doeff

Mike, it's in beta and available to developers, but it's back, minus SMS support: http://staynalive.com/article... - Jesse Stay

Jesse, when / where did Gillmor say that isn't track? I'm pretty sure that Steve just wants the old track brought back, with some filtering capabilities added (the old Track didn't filter out blocked accounts). - Mike Doeff

Yay! Have been eagerly awaiting this. :) - Rick Turoczy

Mike, he's said in various comments. Looks like Track to me... Heck, it's even called "track". - Jesse Stay

BTW this is on staynalive.com now (look in the sidebar): http://staynalive.com/ - Jesse Stay

for my italian friends: stica... - Alberto D'Ottavi from fftogo

Jesse - you can hide the ugly search bar with a little quick CSS - it's <h1> under an easily identified class. - Daniel J. Pritchett from IM

Daniel, good idea - I'd love to change the title more than that though. - Jesse Stay

just a few minutes work and I have a FriendFeed realtime search embedded in a blog http://www.amsterdam20.nl (web 2.0 event) - Jeroen De Miranda

Yeah - Brian Sullivan

FF guys: we like your style :) --- way to go!! - Harscoat

I think I'm going to cry - Bwana ☠

awesomesauce! - Simon Wicks

This is a really great innovation, congrats friendfeed team! - Garin Kilpatrick

Thanks, Jim and Gary! Lots of hard work for a very cool result! - Anne Bouey

HhhhhUuuuuuGggggEeeee !!! - Harold Cabezas

I want to 'Like' this *twice*! many thanks! - 我是真砂！

The first step in a storystreaming platform! - Kevin Sablan

Whoa. Wow. And Yes! Fantastic work, FF team. - Micah

Good stuff although should support negative operators such as I should able to search my name in the all posts NOT coming from me. I've tried "from:-username" but it doesn't seem to work. - Ferruh Mavituna

OK, you guys are wicked talented! It's kind of scary, but I love it. So what's next? Just kidding:) - Michael Fidler

Ferruh: you just have it a bit backwards... try -from:username instead :) - Ross Miller

WOOOOOOOOOOW. Friendfeed is really pushing some cool features out :). Friendfeed is the best :) - alfred westerveld

How can we embed FriendFeed search? - Mike Reynolds

Mike - There's a link at the top of the search just beneath the red bar. - Mitch

A box will pop up, take the HTML code from the bottom of that box. - Mitch

Thanks Mitch! - Mike Reynolds

Nice the embedding code can be dynamic.... <iframe src="http://friendfeed.com/search..." frameborder="0" height="600" width="400" style="border:1px solid #aaa"></iframe> - Mike Reynolds

Thanks @Ross it works fine now, love the RSS output. - Ferruh Mavituna

tabbr likes this - tabbr

Woo! So: will this cause a FF server meltdown anytime soon? - Tim Tyler

very good! - standin

Highly addictive--great stuff! I did notice that if you do a search like [google] you'll see dupe stories streaming by quite a bit (e.g. the TechCrunch story about Google Voice shows up over and over right now). Not sure if it's possible to de-dupe based on destination url a little bit more? - Matt Cutts

two months after redesign, we have access to real-time search. good news bc my preferred search engine is friendfeed. ;) - Friendfeed's Francisco

We are there, in the battle against Twitter - Michael_techie

Best search engine became better :) - Chirag Chamoli

I can't say enough how amazing this is. So, I ordered a bottle of real-time translation to go with this magnificent feast of real-time search :D http://friendfeed.com/friendf... - Micah

Just to show what is possible now with this feature, I've built SteroidFeed: Go here to see it as well as download the files: http://friendfeed.com/lph... Latest version is 1.01. - LPH™ and his dog P™

It's amazing! - Lizunlong

I've been waiting for this since the new UI, excellent, thank you Paul and FF! I'll give this a play later. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Micah, really looking forward to having your scripts work in Chrome. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

This is great. Well done, guys. - James Myatt

Awesome :D - Praveen Vasudev

great!! - Mike Chelen

Because they're on FriendFeed and aren't blogging anymore would be my guess. :) - Bryan Zirkel

Luke, what Bryan said. With the advent of Twitter and FriendFeed the "experts" are all saying you don't need to blog any more. I was on a panel with a few of those several months ago and I had to argue with them why these technologies have actually gotten me to blog more than before, not less. The early adopter types are usually the ones that start a trend, and eventually the rest of... more... - Jesse Stay

I just signed on with word press. Very nice site for blogging. - James Hague

Luke, sites will change and FB dominance will die just as MySpace died. It'll take time but will happen. - LPH™ and his dog P™ from BuddyFeed

Luke, whether it's FriendFeed or some other site Facebook can't hold onto their dominance forever. Others will compete - never say never. At the same time FriendFeed and Twitter are far from replacements for blogging. - Jesse Stay

Luke, that's the same with Twitter - they each have their niche. Is Twitter mainstream? "Mainstream"'s such a vague word. - Jesse Stay

Luke, yet millions of moms and dads still don't use it, despite Oprah. - Jesse Stay

I asked someone at work if they were on twitter and they just gave me a blank stare- they never even heard of it! OR Facebook for that matter. - James Hague

lol - Marcel Weiß

es spricht wenig dagegen - kosmar

Oder umgekehrt: Wenn du nix kriegst dann sagste einfach: noindex. willste das? Nur noch 10% des Traffics sofort ;) (Will Burda das?) - oliver gassner

"JULY 1--A will signed in 2002 by Michael Jackson stipulates that his assets be placed in a family trust and that his mother be appointed the guardian of his three offspring. The will, a copy of which you'll find below, lists three executors, including lawyer John Branca and music industry executive John McClain. The will makes no provision for bequests to Jackson's father or any of his eight siblings, and a court filing indicates that beneficiaries of the Michael Jackson Family Trust are limited to his children, mother Katherine, and six relatives, including his brother Tito's three sons. Branca and McClain believe that the value of Jackson's estate "exceeds $500 million" and consists of "non-cash, non-liquid assets," including Jackson's share of lucrative music royalty rights. In the case that Jackson's mother Katherine were to predecease him (or was unable or unwilling to serve as guardian), Jackson stipulated that singer Diana Ross should be appointed guardian of his minor children. The "Last Will of Michael Joseph Jackson" was executed in Los Angeles on July 7, 2002. (8 pages)" - Thomas Hawk from Bookmarklet

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There were all these rumors that he died intestate. Not much chance a superstar with so many lawyers at his disposal didn't have a will. None of those lawyers would ever work again if that were the case. But my hunch is there's a good chance one or two wills from later than 2002 will emerge. - Stephen Mack

I'd assume that even if more wills show up that his assets were properly titled to the Family Trust which would exempt them from probate and pretty much render future wills insignificant. I'd imagine the estate taxes on his estate will be large. He gets a $3.5 million estate tax exemption and everything over that the Govt. gets 45 cents on the dollar roughly. It will be interesting to... more... - Thomas Hawk

Why is this being reported? This is crazy. - tehKenny

God, this is like a bad bar exam question. It'll probably show up in the next couple of years on the California bar exam as an essay question, I'm sure. - Brian Chang

I really like this statement - but will people return to blogging as we've known it? - Tony

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Are you perhaps over estimating the allure of thinking? - Todd Hoff

Micro-blogging is good for idealets and infotainment, but it really is turning the web into a mindless medium like TV. Of course, there will always be the equivalent of PBS trying valiantly to raise the bar somewhat. Blogs will always have the possibility of transmitting real knowledge. - Paul W. Homer

The interesting thing for me is I think we have lost the definition of what a blog is. Everybody jumped up and down about what Steve Rubel did, but really I see his change as a shift of platform. If he posted that same content on wordpress, nobody would have said a word. Just because he did it on posterous and called it a lifestream, people took issue with it. So, what is our definition then? - Robert

http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/whatmak... - Dave Winer

Dave - I read through the link you sent, thanks for the information. So, in what ways do you think posterous goes against this definition? - Robert from email

I think Steve still has a weblog, he's just submitting posts to it in a "different" way. Like Dave's link says a weblog is "... a hierarchy of text, images, media objects and data, arranged chronologically, that can be viewed in an HTML browser." Pretty much sums it up, I think. Steve's post is going to generate attention, and debate, but in the end it's a weblog. - Rob Fahrni

Robert, I know you're asking Dave a question, but I don't think the Posterious way goes against the definition. If I'm not mistaken Radio could post via e-mail, and I know Blogger supports this feature. Maybe I need to dig into Posterious a bit more but isn't that what it does? - Rob Fahrni

Rob - That is my point. This in my mind is one of the major problems with looking for a "new name" for these social products. We see it as something different because it is called something different. Posterous, from what I can see so far, allows for the writer to interact with their "weblog" in a different way, just as you said... - Robert from email

Huh? - Dave Winer

Dave - I think your "huh?" was towards me... We call Posterous a "life stream", I say it is a blog, that we have given a different name to. That is what I am saying.Rob - I agree with you 100%, and that is my point exactly. I keep reading these post about blogging being dead, or blogging being alive... but those that say they are not "blogging" are still "blogging" Maybe I am not making sense, but I hope I am... - Robert from email

Robert - Precisely! I think Posterious is trying to find a why to differentiate their product, so they've coined a new phrase. It's still a weblog, how the data arrives may be different, but it's just a weblog all the same. When I read Steve's story last night, from his new site, I thought I was going to find a link on it to something "new and innovative", then I realized I was AT the actualy site, his "life stream." - Rob Fahrni

Rob - YES... That is what I am saying... Same with Tumblr in my view, it is a weblog... Blogging is not dead at all in my view... - Robert from email

Robert - Right on! - Rob Fahrni

Blogology is a still too young science, and definitio usually comes when plays are over. What I feel sad for is the lack of opportunity future literature and social behaviour experts will suffer not using post's content ( and graphics ) as sources for studying today's world zeitgeist. Borges prophecy is at work, few understands - too many doesn't even know what they're writing about: a... more... - valerio fiandra from iPhone

Robert, the photo sharing site you've used recently is structurally a blog too. It differs from normal blog software mainly in that the chronology is by date of occurrence, not date of posting. - Bruce Lewis from fftogo

It's funny that this sentence and a few lines from Anthony Trollope's autobiography should have crossed paths in my consciousness on the same day, since it's almost the same idea, thrown back two temporal orders of magnitude. Trollope tells of a correspondent, a vicar, who had enjoyed his clerical novels but was upset by Lady Glencors'a contemplation of adultery in the Pallisers series.... more... - Amyloo

Bruce - Very true! I'm glad that you are not working hard to call it something different. I'm loving it so far, even though I have not had a lot of time to put a bunch of pics up... - Robert from email

This is silly. Blogging isn't defined by the tool, it's defined by who's doing it. Read the piece I pointed to. I don't mean click on the link and hit the Back buttton, click the link and READ. - Dave Winer

Agreed, Dave. Heck, we blogged back in the day via FTP uploads; that's what moved you towards developing "Edit This Page", in fact (IIRC). - Ken Kennedy

Dave - I did read through it, and I agree that a blog is NOT defined by a tool, I think that is what we have been saying. I do not see where we are at odds on our viewpoints, please expound. - Robert from email

This subject keeps coming back - blogging will never die. - Jesse Stay

Before Web 1.0 we listened, conversed, collaborated and then we wrote. Writing was the synthesis of all the thinking that occurred in the first steps. In the new medium, the thinking process is the streams, both personal and community. Blogging is the synthesis of this new kind of community thought process. - Joolio

Dave - haha! - that is awesome :D - Susan Beebe

I think a large percentage of bloggers were really microbloggers, they just didn't have the correct apps to do that. The people that actually have something to say will keep blogging and those that just like to say something small or share something interesting will continue microblogging, or lifestreaming, or whatever variant you want to name it. Blogging is akin to publishing articles... more... - xero

This was known since the times of IRC: you can only have idle chatter or quick focused questions at that speed. - Michele Costabile

Michele, if that premise is true, then kids only absorb important life-long lessons from their parent(s) when they're sat down for a full length lecture. No? :) - Micah

The best food for thought always come in easily digestible chunks, however, sometimes you need to digest some larger/harder stuff to give you the ability to digest that chunk. - xero

Xero - That is an interesting thought... - Robert from email

Agreed, well said, Xero. - Micah

I thought completing a thought was the beauty of FriendFeed. - Alan Eggleston

Microblogging is very much a product of the times, very ADD, very video-game-ish; so I agree strongly with the idea of longer. - Rick Cogley

Just FYI, when I started Scripting News in 1997, it was entirely "microblogging" -- look in the archive. http://www.scripting.com/1997... - Dave Winer

This isn't a fight. I love all this stuff. I was just saying what I think. - Dave Winer

Question: Of those of you out there who use posterous, do you use it as a replacement of your blog, a mirror of your blog or something different? - Curt Mercadante

One of the things I like about blogging is the ability to not finish a thought, not to try so hard to say all I have to say or say come to any definite conclusion in a single post. The unfinished thought is what encourages conversation. Let someone else add to your thought. Let others challenge your incomplete premise. I don't know everything, why pretend I do? My thoughts are never finished. - Jack&Cleo

Wow, you're right Dave, scripting news was indeed VERY much a microblog. Interesting & thanks for pointing that out! - Rick Cogley

Just last night, my sister sent out a vague tweet that made no sense to me out of context: http://twitter.com/awarnoc... So I suggested she blog about the topic so that readers like me would understand the context. http://twitter.com/awarnoc... http://zelzega.blogspot.com/2009... - Peter Warnock

Just because you can finish a thought, doesn't mean people will read it. - Will Higgins™

Tell me about it. That happened earlier in this very thread. But at least you ca read it yourself. - Dave Winer

Just as your diary became your journal and then your log, your log has become your stream. The web has become your life..... AND SO IT WAS, that in the year naught-nine, the web-log was renamed to life-stream, dissected, and it's pieces scattered about the hundreds of "cloud" services, from which it could fall as raindrops of thought, pinging here and there in an attempt to spread ideas to where they were needed the most. - Joel Bennett

Here's a picture, even easier than 140 chars. http://tr.im/qrBb - Dave Winer

Haha, love it! - Rick Cogley

Love the idea! - Sampad Swain

Where's yours? - Dave Winer

Me too. :-) - Dave Winer

What do you mean, I have always been able to finish a ... ooh a nice shiny object... - Marcel de Jong

Isn't it ironic that this post contained a clear and concise thesis, in under 140 characters? - Mike Chelen

Good point Mike... - Mark Harai

There's NOTHING wrong with brevity. There is a time and a place for discussion and lengthy discourse. - Will Higgins™

Matthew DeVries: that covers definitions 1 and 2, yet the 3rd is an "incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result," where in this case the expected result was to explain how new platforms prevent thoughts from being finished, and the actual result was to the contrary :D - Mike Chelen

aren't we all copying from the same online dictionary? http://www.merriam-webster.com/diction... - Mike Chelen

wow, you got it perfectly word-for-word, remind me to pick you for my crossword puzzle team :) - Mike Chelen

50m like in 50 millon? - Loic Le Meur

yep loic, like in 50 million. we are saving companies that have political cloud left and right ;) - Oliver Thylmann

@loic yes. german gov just saved a mail order company "Quelle": http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki... (de) - Timo Heuer

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