** Posted using Viigo: Mobile RSS, Sports, Current Events and more ** There’s been a huge reaction to our post earlier today about AMP’s new iPhone app – “before you score” – that aims to help guys la
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** Posted using Viigo: Mobile RSS, Sports, Current Events and more ** Last night, Facebook launched an application that allows users to simultaneously update both a Facebook Page and a Twitter account
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- Tim Peter
You should give a try to Dropbox http://getdropbox.com ...Not only a network drive but offers much more important syncing functionality, cross computer syncs, shared areas, public web based access area, automatic photo albums. It's powered by Amazon S3 and bright developers from MIT. I think it's the uber-cool product of 2008 from that year's hottest start-up.
- Berk D. Demir
agreed, I've been testing it for a little and cross-computer syncs works great!
- xavier vespa
Is getdropbox unlimited storage space?
- TrafficBug
I use jungledisk for archival and dropbix for "hot" content
- Deepak Singh
Shevonne you should ask in the apple room - you'll get loads more feedback
- Zee.
If you can spare the cash for MobileMe, I find iDisk works really well. Or, if you don't mind getting your hands dirty, you can DIY an iDisk: http://www.tnpi.net/wiki...
- Paul Grav
@TrafficBug - DropBox allows 2GB for their free service; more than that has a cost associated with that.
- JA Castillo
Well, I for one, do agree. I'm glad to see the point stated so clearly. It's not 'cookie deletion' which is the issue, it's multiple browsers.
- Tim Leighton-Boyce
No argument there. I don't disagree with Clifton's observation. He's right that multiple browsers limits the reliability of uniques as a count. I do, however, disagree with his conclusion that uniques can't be meaningful as a sample. Simply because unique visitors - as a count - has issues, doesn't mean businesses can't use it. Not all site visitors will use multiple browsers. For instance, the ratio of visits to visitors may be meaningful to a given business. Why throw that away?
- Tim Peter
This looks like the payoff from the Jaiku purchase. Location aware applications are the way to go, I just don't know if it will reach the critical mass and flow necessary for it to become useful.
- Dave Senior
Nothin new here.Nokia had launched an App like this called "friendView" months ago. Although yes....this has a broader scope since it supports multiple platforms , rather than just symbian phones.
- Ray
Google Latitude makes my phone smarter than the Jaiku Nokia client ever did. I'm looking for connections bgoldbach@yahoo.com via Latitude.
- Bernie Goldbach
Big (and little) brothers (and sisters) will be watching me.
- Marc Pinter
I could see it gaining critical mass where others don't simply because it's Google.
- Jalada
anybody knows how to uninstall it? I'm feeling stalked since I activated it :-\
- Markingegno - Donato
When you visit the latitude page from an iPhone, you get a coming soon page. Native iPhone app in the works?
- Dave Senior
Looks really interesting! I am keen to explore it further. Oh, if anyone is interested I have a post with a couple thoughts here: http://pauljacobson.org/2009...
- Paul Jacobson
I like this function, hopefully it will get used by many people, it makes finding people much easier. Add me if you like: diff.us@gmail.com
- Uwe Schwarz
Hmm, how does this compare with FireEagle?
- Tyson Key
I'm still waiting on the next leap with location-based services. After using Jaiku, Plazes and numerous other LBS apps, nothing really new here, except becoming available to more people I guess... Who cares where your friend and relatives are if you can't communicate with them or exchange opinion on places, etc... For when the real contextual services integration?
- Rudy De Waele
Alex: only stupid ones will. How do you know who else is or is not in my home just because I'm not there?
- Robert Scoble
Christophe: privacy is dead, get over it.
- Robert Scoble
Every one can now be Mr Bourne & enact some CIA game - like having a chip implanted in your wrist !! Why on earth would I want anyone to track me down tho - unless I am treking in the Patagonian mountains
- viki saigal
@Robert feeling the same. If you want privacy don't use the Internet :)
- Orli Yakuel
sorry Robert, but "privacy is dead" is a stupid argument. It may be dead for you, it is not dead for a lot of people.
- Andre
The future is mobile, Google understands that. Mobile and social. Look at Japan (a country not included in the available countries, by the way).
- Paul Papadimitriou
My life is an open (Mac) book ..he said ! @ Scoble
- viki saigal
missing search fucntionnality when invitating friends
- Frédéric Sidler
I think it's nothing dramatically new - others offer similar services - what's important is that it's Google. And that gets widespread attention and adoption readily. Piece at http://TheNextWeb.com on Latitude this morning - http://twurl.nl/ohhzrq - and a piece I wrote entitled 'Imagine there's no Google' which scared the crap out of a few people, for differing reasons! ( http://twurl.nl/0b0dx6 )
- David Petherick
Hmm, I recall certain early UMTS-enabled phones in the UK (mostly made by Motorola and NEC) having Assisted GPS functionality for use with mapping services provided by 3. Interestingly, the "Find Me" service that utilised it was discontinued ages ago, and I don't know of any services or methods of accessing that functionality with a webapp...
- Tyson Key
As for privacy, don't use the app if you don't want people to know where you are. besides, it's possible to enter any info you want. currently I am in Yokohama Japan, as far as this app is concerned.
- adam garrett
Latitude is pretty cool but as @mtrends (Rudy) said it's not exactly anything new. The fact that it's Google does mean it'll have far larger reach than any of the other similar mobile services I've tried in the past. Personally I would have loved to see GTalk integrated so you could chat to your friends through the same app. *That* would be a nice next step. (It is the year of conversation after all ;) - http://is.gd/i6Zn)
- Tarek Abu-Esber
Obviously they lack vision, given that Location-Based Services are a Big Thing(TM) as of late.
- Tyson Key
Andre: your cell phone company knows exactly where you are if you are carrying a cell phone. So, not sure how this has any more privacy implications than carrying around a cell phone in the first place. With this I choose who sees my location. That puts me in charge of my privacy.
- Robert Scoble
@Robert: I know, and I have been personally using brightkite for quite some time now -- I am just trying to say that privacy is not dead at all. http://www.eff.org/issues...
- Andre
and @Robert, personally I think the geo aware stuff should focus more on the paranoids. For example there is no mention of granular permissions on google latitude home. So some privacy sensitive person jumps on and say "oh fine, now everyone will be able to see where I am. not interested."
- Andre
Hi guys, Google scares us! We are running a LBS plus location contextual services integration (similar to brightkite) , so you can partecipate, comment, private messaging, etc... But Google has all but in separate properties, it could soon integrate Talk, MyMaps and now Latitude all together....
- Christian
Am I the only one who is not finding how to uninstall it [I'm on a laptop, using Gears]
- Markingegno - Donato
I have a love/hate relationship with Google, love the services, hate the monopoly. GeoLoc is a huge topic for Sergey and Larry, this is a strategic direction of Google. Latitude will succeed, because of Google's power on the internet and Google's strategic will. They changed the way internet works by simply clustering search results by GeoIP location. I now have to fight from France to be listed in search results in the UK or US (with an english-language site), I should have hosted my server in the US...
- Christophe Pierret
@scoble "That puts me in charge of my privacy"? Yes, Latitude lets you actively increase your visibility. But it doesn't limit your carrier from knowing where you are, whom you call, etc. It's a facade, not actual control. And, as cool and useful as it may actually be, privacy concerns will likely limit its mass appeal.
- Tim Peter
According to the site, currently supports only Android, Blackberry, Windows, and Symbian. iPhone and Java coming soon. ;-) @davesenior was right
- Danny Whitt
looks good, installed it on my SE w950i and works well. I like it.
- Parth Awasthi
Since it won't support my Country, I just set it from iGoogle - Sweet.
- Orli Yakuel
Hmm, does it work on Symbian OS/S60v2? Also, does it support GSM/UMTS triangulation for phones without a GPS chipset?
- Tyson Key
Robert do you want privacy to be dead? Your statement leaves no room for anything else. Privacy is constantly losing ground to social media, but there shouldn't be a trade off. Put the user in control, that is the only way privacy can be managed. Unfortunately there is no business model that supports such an obvious solution ;-)
- Alexander van Elsas
Alexander: I have learned over and over again that by trading my privacy I get way more back in return. So, I guess I am in the process of killing privacy in some form, yes. Certainly the world I live in is far different than the world my parents grew up in, privacy wise.
- Robert Scoble
I've been using a si,ilar app called nokia friendview from nokia beta labs. But google latitude will obviously overshadow it due to the mass support/appeal. I only wish google had integrated Gtalk (nokia friendview allows you to comment on other peoples statuses through the app) with the application so you could chat with the contact in real time ..in case they have not shared their number with you. But then again ... Would you really show your location to someone who doesn't have your number ? Comments ?
- Ray
@scoble I have to disagree that privacy is dead for everyone, it's dead for Web2.0aholics, for sure. Facebook / twitter / friendfeed / del.icio.us etc have public disclosure of personal information as a business model, and it brings value for PR-minded people (like U :-), for joe-the-plumber it is a whole different matter The value of public disclosure of personal information in this case is not well perceived..
- Christophe Pierret
You say you're concerned with privacy, but it seems you don't even tried to uninstall the app, do you? Did you succeed?
- Markingegno - Donato
It will only work if I can turn it on for different groups of friends at different times. Also, this is one more reason Facebook needs their own Maps solution.
- Jesse Stay
Christophe: I didn't realize that credit card data bases had anything to do with Web 2.0. Or cell phone services that know where you are every minute of every day (and who help out the government to find you if needed). Or the hundreds of thousands of video cameras that we don't even notice anymore like in Las Vegas Casinos watching our every move. Or that grocery store buying cards aren't reporting that you bought Diet Coke last night. Yeah, right, you have complete privacy. Keep on believing that.
- Robert Scoble
Wow! The first screenshot is from Istanbul! An 'easter-egg' for all of us living in Turkey! :-)
- Burak "cyrus" Bayburtlu
Sadly can't see any integration options and no iPhone for now. Hope soon.
- Kris Haamer
@scoble Your point about "privacy is dead" and "puts me in charge of my privacy" are contradictory. I think you're right on the first one. But limiting whether or not my friends can see where I am is not my biggest privacy concern. My friends aren't the ones I worry about.
- Tim Peter
It's reasonable to expect a certain lack of privacy when in public places but I agree with some of the others, this is a little creepy.
- Mattb4rd
@Robert your privacy isn't dead, you are making conscious decisions to trade it for value. And that is the way it should work for everyone. Point is that most don't understand this or know how to deal with it. By control I'm not saying lock it up. I'm saying I want to be the one that decides, not Facebook, Google or whoever.
- Alexander van Elsas
@Christophe I agree about your concern of privacy, in this delicate matter. At Mobnotes.com for location sharing we use this simple approach: we let the user broadcast his position, we don’t do automatically. So it’s up to you to send and share your location and let your friends Know where you are. That’s it.
- Christian
@Robert The fact that you and I believe that it's foolish to believe there still is as much privacy as we'd like is pointless. Patriot act was the definitive blow on privacy. What is interesting is that many people believe that they do have some privacy and want to retain some. "Personal data" is the Web2.0 money. Part of the success of Facebook is how they allow you to have some "perceived" control on disclosure of information
- Christophe Pierret
Well at least Google didn't buy Brightkite which means Brightkite will continue to develop. Bkite is my favorite location based service. They've had an iPhone app for a long time now.
- Rutger Blom
@alexendar I'm with Scoble on this one. Facebook, Google and the like are not the big threats to privacy. Mobile phone carriers, credit card companies and local governments are. The data trail we leave unconsciously (i.e., credit card purchases, phone calls, security camera images) are far more troubling than those we leave consciously on social networks.
- Tim Peter
Burak: actually the first image centers the map to your own location. Mine is in Athens.
- Panagiotis Astithas
I totally get how this could be cool say, on the G1. I mean, once again a new app/feature comes out that merely hints at what's around the corner. I mean, I agree with Ray above, Nokia Chat aka Contacts on Ovi - does the same thing, but with a lesser known service... However it does have full contacts integration AND chat enabled. Jaiku was only a few years ahead of its time huh? The 'active contacts book' is finally happening...
- James Whatley
common sense, people! be wary with who you share your information with! i just manually set mine to the entire town. good luck finding me in the 30,000 people who live here. to be honest i like the brightkite setup better, googles version is a little dodgy at the moment.
- Terry O'Fee
@Tim The threat isn't related to a single service but to ignorance and the inability to control privacy ourselves. Current web business models simply prevent us being in charge of privacy ourselves. Privacy isn't dead, we just need business models that enable us to be responsible for it ourselves so that we can make the trade offs Robert is talking about
- Alexander van Elsas
After all my ramblings and concerns about privacy, I will probably be using Latitude nonetheless once it gets integrated on Windows Mobile or iPhone or Android (web browsing on mobile devices is so boring)
- Christophe Pierret
Each and every "where am I " social media startup (Brightkite I'm talkin' bout you!) can this morning bend over and kiss their ass goodbye. Interesting to see what type of integration will be coming.
- Wayne Schulz
The lurkers over at TweetStalk suggest they have a three-phase roadmap; wonder if linking TweetStalk to Latitude is part of that creepy plan.
- Art Beecher
I thought about this more during my commute to the office. What worker privacy implications arise if I subscribe all of my field technician's cell phones, which the company owns, and checked up on them throughout the day?
- Mattb4rd
@Tyson Key: yes it works with cell based location. Less accurate than GPS, but accurate enough for many use cases.
- Davide D'Incau
I think google is taking privacy seriously. They also have information about that in their help pages. For example, they say "Google Latitude only reports your last updated location and does not keep a history of previously reported locations. " http://www.google.com/support...
- Davide D'Incau
Still doesn't integrate with Blackberry GPS on Vz network, which was opened up a few months ago now. :-(
- cmiper
I read somewhere in the marketing material that google promote it as real-time. It does not seem to be real-time at least on symbian devices. Example, when you update the status text it won't immediately update on your gtalk profile. there is actually quite a long delay.
- Davide D'Incau
I'm checking it out by downloading Google Gears, which automatically detects where I am via my computer. However, it's detecting where my nearest host's location is, and not mine. Still in the same vicinity, so it's ok.
- Shevonne
I like the fact that you can update manually as well, I really don't want to pinpoint certain exact locations, but more of a wider area sometimes.
- cmiper
True. It's always good to be given options.
- Shevonne
@Shevonne same thing on the Blackberry, the GPS isn't available to GMaps, so it uses tower location, to show your approximate location.
- cmiper
I'm using it now. Just have to wait for more people to install it.
- Richard A.
Sounds like a GPS enabled Dodgeball.
- KyleHase
from twhirl
I'd be interested to know what google plan on doing with the data. While there are indeed many different ways in which your activities are being captured, the really sensitive ones tend to have massive restrictions on what they can do with that data. Privacy is your right to keep data about you from being public knowledge if you wish and only you can allow it to be shared. Privacy is not and never will be dead unless all of this data is in the public domain.
- alphaxion
I can't believe they have not unveiled a G1 app at the same time!
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
@christophe yes, privacy nightmare. I'll test it and remove it immediately.
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
not really big news, actually. most of mobile twitter clients I've tested on both iPhone and G1 already propose to post a GPS info with associated map. It's twitter + localization but without twitter :)
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
I wonder what all those people saying that Twitter, Facebook or personal blogging is exhibitionism will think about this!
- Jordi Soler
"My friends aren't the ones I worry about. - Tim Peter" <--- Enough said.
- Derrick Burns
Wow - everyone has completely missed the enormity of this. First, the update is real time (I tested it this morning). Second, Google is showing that it's not a play for the (profitless) social media stage but more likely a bid to get users to give up their location in exchange for ....... LOCATION AWARE ADVERTISING!! Come on all you smarty pants -- nobody can figure this out but me?
- Wayne Schulz
wayne its obvious to me, im not that smart even :)
- atul abraham
from twhirl
Doesn't support my phone so it's dead to me.
- Morton Fox
Whoa, it's apparently in a new 3.0 version of Google Maps for my Blackberry. Sweet!
- David Wilson
I realize I already give Google a mountain of my data, but the idea of posting my exact location to Google and the internet at large seems like a cross between really egotistical and downright creepy in a George Orwell sort of way.
- Eric P
So we are now that much closer to the adsense on our coffee mugs, with ads relevant to our breakfast conversations. (yippie!!)
- April Russo (app103)
With Latitude, I'm okay with getting relevant ads. Like being reminded that Denny's is giving away free breakfast after the Super Bowl while I drive by. Or a coupon from the local super market. However, I would like to see more Gtalk integration or tweeting abilities to ask What are you doing?
- Tyler Brownfield
yes - i like it - much better mapping than Bright Kite but miss easy photo integration (or did I just not spot it in latitude? -surely is Google Maps layer)
- Julian Edward
Wow lots of people seem scared that they'll be really stupid and share their location with people they don't know. Why would they do that? And for thoe worried about people seeing your house is empty for the weekend why not set your location manually to home while you are away? Or just turn off Google Maps on your phone and it won't update. Easy.
- Luke
At the eMetrics Summit today, Google Analytics announced new enterprise-class features including custom reports, advanced segmentation, an API, as well as an
- Tim Peter
"I don't know that I agree with the decision to ban short-selling, but making shorts out to be the end-all, be-all ethical watchdogs, solely "...because our gov't wasn't paying attention," is more than a bit disingenuous. Don't forget, shorts profit when these companies' stocks struggle. The shorts may be right that companies' balance sheets reflect a house of cards, hence their willingness to gamble the rest of the market will find out. And those actions may represent a balancing influence to public markets. But shorts do this to achieve profits - not to regulate the markets - just like value investors purchase securities whose balance sheets reflect greater value than the market price suggests. Of course shorts hope the market finds out. If it doesn't, the short has nothing to gain. But there are easier ways to let the market know than betting against the stock."
- Tim Peter
"Streaming is a great concept and offers tremendous long-term value. But only if bandwidth really is ubiquitous and cheap. If moves such as Comcast's bandwidth caps become the norm - and continued metered usage of mobile remains so - then file-based media is more cost-effective in the long-run. Better to pay only the first time we download content than every time we use it."
- Tim Peter
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I think we'd do well to give a listen to Mr. Cerf. While it's only coincidence we "surf" the web, it wouldn't have been inapprorpriate at all if that action was named in Vint's honor.
- Tim Peter