How much faster is the new iPhone 3GS? It keeps up with friendfeed's realtime feed and the old one didn't. My son noted that 3G web pages are a lot faster too.
I'm getting slightly better battery life on my 3G with just the 3.0 update. I was hoping the 3GS would have substantial battery improvements though.
- Alex Knight
Eh, maybe I will shell out the $$$ to upgrade. I thought my 3g would be good enough. :( Not very interested in the video. Just battery life and speed
- Johnny
One of the many impressive ways it's shown off its speediness to me was on app updates. I had 12 waiting for me when I synced the 3GS first time to my Mac. I never, ever let it try to 'Update All' on the 3G because it usually took a long time just doing one at a time. Yesterday I gave it a go with the 12 updates - just over 1 minute - boom - done.
- Patrick Jordan
How are you accessing FF on the iPhone (I have a 3G)? What's your recommendation?
- Scotty Perkins
Scotty, BuddyFeed is the best app for the iPhone so far. AlertThingy is coming along nicely.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Scotty: I am sitting on my couch talking with you on my iPhone just using the web browser (Safari) set to the standard FriendFeed site. I refresh often. :-)
- Robert Scoble
LPH: I have BuddyFeed and love but today I was typing a long comment and got a call in the middle of it and then when call was done my message I was typing was completely gone...I don't understand how the app would not save the message in that case...absurd!
- Mike Bracco
Do any of the iPhone apps do real-time updates yet?
- Jesse Stay
Mike, I've had similar things happen. I've lost pictures that way too ...
- LPH™ and his dog P™
LPH: yeah seems like a huge design flaw, I guess I'm so used to apps on iPhone just working so I was really surprised by behavior.
- Mike Bracco
Excellent, thanks. Will try those. I'm still getting my feed under me with FF.
- Scotty Perkins
Jesse - don't think so, if you mean any of the native FF apps and FF real time updates that is.
- Patrick Jordan
Try Google Earth - which was barely usable on the older models. It screams on the 3Gs - benefits from the CPU, gpu, and ram improvements - it's more responsive than my MacBook pro (though obviously I have a much larger screen on that).
- Robin Barooah
This is great news. I can justify buying one if it's substantially faster than the 3G.
- RobinDotNet
Robert: I have a 3Gs since yesterday. I did not have the old 3G but sometimes I grabbed my friends' ones. I can tell you is faster and that the 's' is a good descriptor.
- Eduardo Loyola
makes it much harder to ignore when I have a 2G, will I be liked in past the 4G release I wonder?
- Mark Essel
Did you mean OS 3.0 or OS 2.x on the 3G didn´t keep up with FF realtime feed ?
- Thomas Bøhm
It blows that you have to go to the regular FF site to get the realtime updates. The iPhone site is much better adapted to the size of the screen but you still have to refresh. Do you think this is because of speed concerns?
- Wim Mulder
Wim: yes. Realtime was useless on old iPhone. Even on new one I keep it off most of the time.
- Robert Scoble
Is there a concern that developers might start building apps that won't work/are too slow with the older models?
- Obayoo
Obayoo: that almost is a certainty. Games, my son says, are much better on the new hardware.
- Robert Scoble
Jeff Atwood posted a link to a great video from the iPhone Blog that compared side by side the 3g with the 3gs and it was pretty well twice as fast.
- Travis Koger
I turned Wifi off yesterday after the first 2 hours of usage and then proceeded to use 3G the rest of the day for all data and forgot I wasn't on Wifi... Fast is an understatement, however I'd like to see some side-by-side speed tests for 3G vs 3GS. Not convinced just yet that folks need that "S", the more efficient OS could be adding to the speed... With that said, provided I un-brick...
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- Walt Ruppar
iPhone provides me tools for work and leisure that have me very excited about modern (social) media.
- Dave
I wonder if this means I'll be posting videos twice, considering that my YouTube and my FriendFeed will both be publishing to Twitter?
- Thomas Ward
from Bookmarklet
The export thing = holy poo awesome. The default export format/behavior has always sorta bothered me (since it's effectively a "proprietary open" format).
- Brett Kelly
from Bookmarklet
Robert that video was awesome to watch. That setup is amazing. You get your audience involved, respond and recognize them. Changing the game each and every day.
- Geoff Farinha
from Nambu
I can only hear the audio - there is no video...what could be the problem?
- Mahesh Patwardhan
Mahesh: do you have the latest Flash player.
- Robert Scoble
Steve, the audio on the Qik site works fine for me. I do get black on the embedded version - guess I need a flash upgrade.
- Laura Norvig
The video was blank for me here as well. Using Windows XP with Google Chrome [updated today]. Was able to watch on the Qik site. Great video Robert ;)
- David Damore
I'm getting blank video. Only audio. OS X/Safari.
- Diego Barros
I have the latest flash player... theres still no video here.. however I can watch it on the qik.com site.
- Mahesh Patwardhan
If you use the Qik link instead you won't see the blank video. I think the problem is on the FF side.
- Alexander Grundner
I'm torn between thinking - "that is awesome" and "what's the point?". For Scoble it makes sense as his job depends on keeping up with all this and commentating on it. For the rest of us, not so sure this realtime river of news is really where the future is taking us.
- Barak B
Love this video. You gave me an idea on utilizing feeds on a vertical screen
- Thomas Chai
Apparently, Scoble either wastes his time watching 3 friendfeed columns instead of writing a new book or revising Naked Conversations (in real time) OR he just showed us how the job looks like for some community managers.
- Michael Jung
Amazing how many posts come in. More data than the NYSE.
- Bill Hertzing
when i grow up i want to be a geek like Scoble
- daniela barbosa
You'd have to become a child to be more like Scoble :) His child like wonder is his trademark
- Chris Saad
serious overload. i'd tune it all out. it's too much.
- Don Martelli
Don: of course it's too much, but that's why my list of searches grows by about five every day. I want to have the best list of geeky searches in the industry.
- Robert Scoble
...Scoble, i am as realtime nuts as u with 65 soc news monitors therefore it irritates me that the new friendfeed doesn't allow realtime button-refresh twitter updates into the feed - or i was too stupid to find the icons. it also s*ks that u cant add all u old icons to make automatic refreshes in case there is some glitch. anyone else can help out in case scoble is busy ?
- ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
I read somewhere that Scoble singe-handedly save (or something to that effect) FF. Now I can see how. Thanks for sharing this. Btw, I also got black screen here, but fine video in Qik, using OSX/Firefox.
- waraney rawung
ewing: I have no idea what you are asking for. Tweets come here within seconds. Seems real time to me, why do you need a button update?
- Robert Scoble
Darth Scoble is more machine than man now.
- Rolf Schewe
interesting.. Scoble is watching the world in his war room.. :D
- Pico Seno
Proves once again how sorely track (realtime search alerts) is lacking. The setup as it is now is better divided between right and left eye serving corresponding brain hemispheres. The streams then should be tweaked in accordance with brain hemisphere functional/cognitive asymmetry; the result would be hyper-realtime web/personality blend leading to eventual zombiefication and madness :-)
- Mindaugas Dagys
That's amazing, that's the reason why you're the best at what you do. Thank you for sharing that video, Robert.
- Diego Espinoza V.
Can someone please tell us how to setup the Twitter stream like Robert has?? I want to set that up sooo bad.
- Jeff
Jeff: You turn an Apple monitor sideways. YOu open up three different Safari or other browser windows. You stretch those windows to look like my screen. You point them at various Tweet streams.
- Robert Scoble
I guess this is not live and you are saying what are you seeing here LOL I am seeing a black screen :o(
- David Gross
David: not live. It works here. Do you have the latest Flash player?
- Robert Scoble
hmm.. didnt work in Chrome, doesnt work in IE, I havent installed Firefox yet LOL
- David Gross
yes, have latest flash, would not play in friendfeed but when I clicked on link it worked on the qik site
- David Gross
I watched half of it till I started getting dizzy and shut it off LOL dont know how you do it Robert.. I guess gradually you can. ever use Pocketwit? LOL you would miss 90% of tweets.
- David Gross
btw I would like a windows mobile app for friendfeed or website :o)
- David Gross
Wow, that is so cool. Watching the long monitor is very hypnotic
- Asgeir
In the new friendfeed you can subscribe to just my likes, if that's all you like about me.
- Robert Scoble
Why has it freed my mind? Because now I can share photos and other things again that only really make sense in friendfeed. Plus I can get back to using Twitter for what it really is for: telling you what I ate for lunch, er, what I'm doing right now. :-)
- Robert Scoble
woah, I had no idea you could subscribe to someone's likes. hmm
- Daniel Sims
One little annoyance from sharing on FF and CC'ing to Twitter is the "[pic]" that is added if your share includes an image. I'm not really keen on this. But yes it's interesting that you can sub to user's comments and likes separately, though not done so myself.
- Kol Tregaskes
Daniel, and to their comments only too.
- Kol Tregaskes
Too bad we can't do some sort of combining - only posts and comments, only posts, only likes and comments.
- Brian Sullivan
Yep, or subscribe to only certain services for each user.
- Kol Tregaskes
I don't know, maybe you should keep it synced up. We tweeps like to follow you on twitter.
- Abhimanyu Chirimar
@Scoble, I follow your Likes on Twitter..that way only one app, Twhirl in my case, is open. I check FF once in 4-5hrs. For those of us with non-social media jobs gets tricky to track multiple services.
- Mahesh CR
Apollo: funny, but where's the links?
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I think Twitterfeed will add them.
- Kol Tregaskes
Yeah. Twitterfeed doesn't do a query of the feed on creation, just on the interval you specify, so the countdown is set at 30 minutes, 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5 hours. So likes should appear soon.
- Apollo Gonzales
Agreed - I was never that into sharing just what I liked that I found on FF. Not very substantial stuff to go the extra mile and share on Twitter as well.
- Ciaoenrico
Sigh, but FriendFeed text is so hard to read....
- Colin
Colin: what browser are you using? You can bump up the size in your browser.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: So how is the "sharing" working out?
- Nick in Manila
Robert, it is not the text size that is the problem on Friendfeed, it is that the text is grey. Very hard to read, especially on an iPhone. I do love Friendfeed besides that though.
- Travis Koger
Nick: so far I've gotten a few thank yous from people who hated my likes and no complaints, so I ain't turning it back on.
- Robert Scoble
One of the biggest problems with the integration of these tools is that not everyone is going to want to integrate. Facebook, twitter and friendfeed all have different purposes for me, so for the most part I like the separation. Where it gets more difficult to manage is cross-following individuals in those other platforms, and the duplication of information (increased noise). Your solution is perfect Robert, and well appreciated (not that I didn't like your likes).
- jcunwired
I really find thise Likes annyoing... as a matetr of fact, I filter them out using TweetDeck. If you find Twitter of such little value then why even bother with it? Use Friend Feed and be done with it.
- BlueMoonMultimedia
I liked your likes in Twitter.... come back!!! :)
- frank barry
frank: I probably won't. I've had too many "thank yous" today for turning them off. I'll figure out another way to get people here.
- Robert Scoble
I had to bring them back to my home feed I missed you so much :)
- jcunwired
I think Google Reader is better at managing a large number of Feeds, especially from businesses and news websites. Friendfeed seems more capable (and better for) tracking peoples various personal feeds like Twitter, etc... (hence the name).
- Greg Fowler
Feedly is a great Firefox extension for Google Reader - worth a look.
- Pinksy
Feedly is OK but I wish when I clicked on my separate folders that they were like the digest page and not list the whole feed. I had a spell with feedly recently and the digest is great but it shows articles I've read, even after a refresh and even after forcing it via the set-up. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
I only like Feedly's digest view if I don't have many items. Otherwise, I find it really hard to scan and prefer the individual folder/feed view.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
I would think about it yes. I like the idea of using it to channel "micro" discussions about a very finely tuned topic. Or as Leo Laporte uses it as "Mini Chat Rooms" for his shows.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
I'd certainly consider it, assuming it had OPML in/out, mark as read, and once the beta is final. Would be great with easy reshares to other feeds. I'd also want an updated bookmarklet.
- LogEx
I doubt that I'd replace Google Reader with FriendFeed. They have different purposes and I use them for different reasons.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
The more features, the better "instruction". There's a lot here that people don't really know how to use.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
I don't use it now as a feed reader but would it it included some easy UI to get the full RSS content (I like the iGoogle bubble popup) and some feed subscription (and management) process. If they improved the posting function to allow paragraphs and minimal text formatting it would also be a substitute blogging platform.
- Brian Sullivan
Brian, some text formatting would be cool but how far should it go?
- Kol Tregaskes
I would be happy with multiple paragraphs and numbering/bulleting. Bold/italic and inline graphics might work as well.
- Brian Sullivan
@Kol Tregaskes - Yes. We are rolling out a new version of the digest and there was a refresh bug. It was fixed yesterday. Next time you restart firefox things should be back to normal.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
(I also like your idea of making the category pages more like the digest. I will talk to the team about that on friday. We should be able to easily do that with the new recommendation engine I think)
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Edwin, excellent news, thank you. :-) Like I say about if I could click on my other folders and have the same format as I do with the digests then it would be feedly a whole lot more useful to me.
- Kol Tregaskes
Yeah! I just created feed for Artemy Lebedev (one of russian designers) — http://beta.friendfeed.com/tema. But if Artemy sign up to friendfeed, what about username «tema» and subscribers of this feed?
- Сашенька
Scott, need the search URL not the filter URL.
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol: To make sure that I explain your idea correctly: you want to click on a category and have at the top the best articles in that category and then a list of sources and for each sources the best 7 articles. Yes?
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Yeah it would be awesome to have an OPML import that creates imaginary friends from each RSS source, which could all then automatically be added to a Feed - Would definitely need to import main photos for each post, videos when possible, and perhaps the first paragraph as the first comment...
- Nathan Chase
RSS reader? I don't use that since I fell in love with Friendfeed, an year ago or so :-P
- Marcos Marado
I created a yahoo pipe of various tech news and then created a rss feed which I added to Friendfeed, it works really well.
- Kim Landwehr
Kim, what did you do with the feed in Yahoo Pipes?
- Kol Tregaskes
Edwin, yeah. I use feedly when I want a catch up on the best posts from my GReader feeds. Basically I like to start with feedly to see the best stuff then if I get time go into GReader to have a quick look at the rest. I've painstakingly put my feeds into folders and those folders into an order...
- Kol Tregaskes
...So ideally I'd like to have a digest of all my folders/feeds combined showing me the best posts from the lot and the ability to select from the top menu each of my folders and have the best posts from each of those. If I could select the number of posts to see on the digest and the separate pages that would be great too...
- Kol Tregaskes
(ok I think that I understand enough for us to create a prototype and we will take it from there. sorry for hijacking your thread)
- Edwin Khodabakchian
...Also, I've tagged some of these folders as a-list (the main folders I want to check each day) and the rest as b-list (folders I could live without checking if I don't have time). I've put the a-list as my favourites but I don't see a way to have these favourites on a digest type page or for them to be prioritised or highlighted over the rest? Am I confusing you now? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
That's not a problem, Edwin. Thank you very much for responding and reading the thread. :-D
- Kol Tregaskes
I guess it would depend on how it was implemented. I like my reader being separate from FF. I find the value of FF is in the conversations about the material more than the material itself. I really just peruse my feeds (in my reader), read a small percentage of them and share an even smaller percentage of that--but I get a large amount of them--so to have them run smack into my friendfeed stream (without being able to separate them) would only muddle my FF experience.
- Kelly W.
Would you use a screw driver on nails if it had improved hammering capabilities?
- Peter
I definitely would use it for my favorite feeds that I read every day, but probably would continue to use Google Reader for the hundreds of other things I just have a glance at.
- Eph Zero
Using a dedicated app is a much better choice for anything. Let FF do what it does best.
- Roberto Bonini
I had just been thinking about starting to use a reader when I discovered FF. Now I can't imagine why I'd use a reader when I could just aggregate things in a private feed. Of course, I'm 110% in favour of improvements to the importing. I've made some suggestions here and there, too. :)
- Karl Knechtel
I just set this up the other day in the room Collected Feeds. But I've found that my RSS reading has fallen off, so I'm still experimenting with it. What I'd like to see is the favicon or something for the source icon, so it's easier to run down things. Also, only displaying the 2 or 3 of a group makes it easy to miss things (you have to click see the rest).
- Andy Bakun
@Peter: I'd certainly rather buy a good swiss army knife than a whole toolbox if I knew I wasn't going to be working on especially large nails, screws, etc.
- Karl Knechtel
Did you know that FF can only process an RSS feed if it has items "in hundreds" (quote from an FFer) or less ? Anything like your twitter friends' timeline with a 1000 items will fail.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
i totally agree with you on the point that importing feeds should be improved. this would definitely help in starting better FF conversations. as a firehose solution, i made a (free) web service that improves the experience of starting conversations around imported/shared RSS/ATOM feed posts. the service sacns the feed for media (images only for now) and inserts special XML tags that FF...
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- Ivan Zuzak
Gosh, thanks Edwin and thanks for the mention on the blog. Now if I could select the folders that appear on the top bar (I have my favourites) and the order of the folders on each magazine/digest page (I've set them in a priority order in GReader) I'd be a very happy man, hehe. ;-) Thank you again!
- Kol Tregaskes
You should be able to order the categories/folders on the bar by drag and dropping them around. Within each folder, you can not control the order beyond marking some as favorite and some not. The order of the sources is currently dynamic based on reading and sharing pattern. Not ideal. We might expand from 2 buckets (favorite and others) into 3 buckets (must read, favorite and others). but right now we are expending on our time on feedly mobile so not sure when that would happen. Thanks for all the feedback
- Edwin Khodabakchian
No worries, Edwin. I'm just after extensive control of things like that, I'm probably on my own. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Edwin, I cannot DM you so hope you get this: I've re-created all-new folders/tags in Google Reader. I've refreshes feedly but it's still showing the old folders/tags. Are you still having the refresh problem you mentioned?
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol. For feedly to sync back to the changes mades in GReader, please restart firefox or logout/login to feedly. I am now following you so do not hesitate to DM me if you have any questions.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Ah, OK Edwin. I'll try again tomorrow. I've reorganised lots of things, including GReader and the GReader changes might make using feedly a little easier. Still would love a Chrome version in the future, though. ;-) Thanks for adding me BTW. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Yes (would use as RSS-reader); No (haven't yet quite figured out how - obviously the subscription process and account maintenance would have to be vastly improved).
- ianf ⌘
I've got one large Imaginary Friend feed that I've imported several of the feeds I read so that I can keep track of them. I've not imported them all because 1) that's a pain and 2) I really am using it on FF so that I know if blogs that don't update every day have updated without visiting them constantly.
- Elizabeth Parmeter
I'm a big fan of Friendfeed, and still tuning my using. I balancing being distracted from being current. (I'm trying to get off Facebook, which is too much noise). So, I'm currently using Friendfeed in two ways. (1) I've created lists (e.g. family, colleagues, digerati), and take feeds of those into FeedDemon. (2) I'm using the Friendfeed over IM feature to send to Google Talk, which...
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- David Ing