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I think life is better if you choose to trust people a little more. Something about reality being a mirror.
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I'm sure this seems naive to many.
- Paul Buchheit
i'm naive by nature, but always honest, :)
- chaz2b
I wish this was true in our country. Relative to other cultures, we have much to learn.
- Akshay Dodeja
people can be trusted, groups less and organizations never (sorry, I should also add "by me as a general rule")
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Are you saying... to chill out?
- Josh Haley
Too many people complaining, I guess. Indeed, trust is something rare in the cynical times we live in.
- Jordi Soler
I believe people who are questioning will trust more when they get more clarity. In the absence of answers, speculation fills the gap.
- Louis Gray
hey man I trust loads more people online than off and I certainly trust the FFolk. These guys are no fools to build what they built and sell what they sold.
- Thomas Power
Unfortunately clarity takes time. Life is inherently unpredictable.
- Paul Buchheit
PB I am happy to wait take your time and yes I trust you all the whole team.
- Thomas Power
It's precisely because I viewed FF as a collection of people that I invested trust with them - so yes I'm waiting for the clarity that I trust will come and hope your allowed to share it by the new boss.
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
I couldn't agree with you more Paul. (congrats BTW) I just hope bigger companies also realize the same thing, we will treat them the same way they treat us. With FF I think we all felt like part of the team, communication was open and two-way..it brought the passion out of all of us.
- Chris Myles
I ain't no naysayer I am a true FFsupporter. Go PB Bear x
- Thomas Power
i don't think ppl always like what they see...perhaps why they choice to treat others badly : reflecting their own ugly.
- :}(o|O){:
Oh, I could tell you stories about how I trusted people and was let down, betrayed, and backstabbed. Cynicism is not without precedent.
- Morton Fox
I don't think it's naive, you definitely live better when you are not constantly thinking if people are trying to scam you.
- Amit Morson
It's not good to call a bluff on people/anything before you understand the situation. On trusting people a little more....that's fine. However, it's a very thin line because people are different and unique in many aspects.We can do much more if we remove the slyness that have destroyed capitalism.
- Symon Muchina Thuo
BTW, I like the little "Add comment" thingy. Good going.
- Amit Morson
If I went with optimism, I would prefer cautious optimism over blind optimism.
- Morton Fox
culturally it seems cynicism is a means for people to cope with irony
- :}(o|O){:
I trust the FF team. As I said before I doubt they'll let FB take over and do messy things. They worked too hard to let them do that.
- Molly, "sorry"
I always give people a bit of trust, and it works out. There have been very few people that have lost the trust I gave them. I expect the best from everyone, and most return the favor. As for thinks like FF, well I don't have a lot of experience and I'm not super attached to the current workings, so I'm just waiting patiently to see what happens. I didn't join for the system, I joined for the people and the content. ^_^
- Heather
ana, that is why trust is required :)
- Paul Buchheit
It sounds like you've gained some confidence in yourself. That's always a plus.
- Wallace
I love FF. You guys have done a great job, and I have no doubt you will continue to do so. Some may have acted more on emotions than needed. However, when you end up being too trustworthy for too long, you tend to get burned. It's cheesy, it's a cliche, but it happens. I know I'm not one of the big ones here, but earlier today, in my completely zombified state, I decided to just roll...
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- Matthew Horton
I don't like how some people are thinking you "sold out" because you were bought by FB, because you needed the money and if you didn't get it what would happen? I think people are pissed off mainly because FB was the service that bought it. What if Myspace or Micorsoft bought FF? I bet there would be more people (including myself) who would totally lose trust in you guys.
- Molly, "sorry"
Some people are going to take this cryptic post as "Friendfeed will remain a separate entity and will continue to be developed, but I just can't reveal that yet." If that's not what ends up happening -- as seems almost certainly to be the case -- many FFers will hold it against you. I don't believe that's what you're saying, but many will. I imagine the fact that the reaction is mostly...
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- Christopher A Carr
Christopher - I think Paul should start writing even more cryptic posts to /really/ mess with people.
- Andrew C
He seems busting at the seems to talk about *something* he knows, I just doubt that something will really be all that reassuring.
- Christopher A Carr
Christopher, you're reading too much into this (as are most people here). I really do mean it as a general point about life. The truth is that I don't know exactly what the future holds, and neither does anyone else.
- Paul Buchheit
I have been through a few recent experiences where my apprehensions and concerns about the honesty and the intent of people have been proven wrong. I guess some of us need to go through this phase of realization before we can start trusting people a bit easier than before.
- Jassim
Paul: I was saying that I'm not reading that into your post, but many people will. In light of circumstances, posting something like that is going to be heavily interpreted, right?
- Christopher A Carr
I guess I'm in what some people might think of "denial". I want to think positively instead of being cynical. Being cynical to me is negative and doesn't solve a damn thing. Being positive about anything this day and age is a bad thing, I guess. People view positive feelings as being "in denial" which IMHO is a bunch of bullcrap.
- Molly, "sorry"
Depressing country music comes to mind... the dog ran away and the truck died, sad tune... *Sigh*
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Perhaps more to the point: Most here may trust the former FF team, but many don't trust Facebook.
- Christopher A Carr
Christopher, I think that is the main point. It was interesting to see Matt Cutts post his congrats via a FF post, but also mention that he hopes the FF team brings some openness to the FB. That is part of the trust thing. Even Microsoft is more trustworthy than FB right now and everyone knows that a team of talented devs getting swallowed up by an untrustworthy corp typically makes no difference to the corp's culture.
- Travis Koger
I hate Facebook
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Software is scalable to huge customer bases.. Customer support, feedback, and expectations don't scale as easily!!
- Chris Myles
Travis: Yep.
- Christopher A Carr
I had to admit, even though I like FB a lot, they have done some things I'm not happy with. I'm hoping they don't mess with FF too much or I won't go there anymore.
- Molly, "sorry"
@Paul, I will stretch my trust a bit further to see how this washes out for the FF team, but in my view trust is always based on the actions and the way this has been handled, given that you are well aware of your rabid fan base, is not good for maintaining trust. I would have actually preferred that FF be bought my Microsoft (I know MS haters, perish the thought), but at the moment I...
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- Travis Koger
Thing is, every single FF user with a FB account could go delete their Facebook account, and Facebook would barely notice. So it's hard to believe that that they care -- why should they?
- Christopher A Carr
Totally agree Christopher. The FF crowd are such a small bag that they do not care. The reason why I would prefer MS is that they would care because they are clawing marketshare with any means, each little grab of users for them means a lot more then it does to FB, who as we all know don't even care about their existing 250-300mill.
- Travis Koger
Travis: You do know that MS is FB's single largest investor by far, right? For all practical purposes, MS bought FF as much as FB did
- LANjackal
LANjackal, yeah, but I am not sure about single largest? Particularly since the valuation that they bought in at was a lot higher than the current valuation from the recent buy in, so I think their shareholding is a tiny bit smaller now. There is still competition between the two for users, as there is from Google and twitter etc.
- Travis Koger
Hmm, I don't like mirrors...
- Mo Kargas
Lanjackal, I told like you to one of my friends feed yesterday, you are right!
- muratt
Travis: FB isn't publicly traded, and MS has given them more funding than anyone else, period. No one else has come close to the $240M MS poured into FB
- LANjackal
muratt: Thanks, appreciated
- LANjackal
Travis: You don't think the Bing search results integrated with FB search results are accidental, do you? That said, I'm not one of those people who believes everything MS is bad. So far they've done well allowing FB to grow as they have. I've been with FB since 2004 so I have more faith in them than the average person. I'm giving them time to see how this all shakes out, and putting a lil trust in the FF devs too
- LANjackal
LANjackal, absolutely not, I know that was part of the investment and obviously worth a shed load more than the original 240M. I did think though that they had just received 200M from a russian company and have received other similar size investments from other companies. Don't get me wrong, I am not a total FB hater, if they do right by FF then I will absolutely stick around. What I...
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- Travis Koger
This is a smart approach. Trust...but verify. As much as many of us chuckled at Reagan in the 80s (OK, as much as some of us old guys chuckled) that's not a bad philosophy; it's what we do in day-to-day life, anyway. If we didn't implicitly trust most of the people we interacted with daily life would be chaos. Oh, and "naive" is the way we act on a daily basis.
- Tom Guarriello
Oh, and one more thing. I think the difference between the public reaction to FB buying FF and Amazon buying Zappos is fascinating.
- Tom Guarriello
I have actually more trust in FB than I have in Amazon - FB has not yet had the kind of anti competitive practices that Amazon has had in the last few years. If it had an easier way to ignore most apps, and reined their lawyers when revising T&Cs, FB would be positively peachy :)
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Reality is a mirror. We will manifest in life what we continue to see and be. If we find that we continually cannot or do not trust people, it is often because we ourselves are not trustworthy. Give situations time to sort out before you automatically assume that the worst will come about.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Paul, I take your point. This is how I've gone through my entire life, with varying degrees of success. But I should tell you because of this I've been burned many, many times and have the emotional scars to prove it. It is not a statement to be made lightly (not that I think this is what you were doing).
- Jim Is Not Smart
I think most people would like to trust but most people have been disappointed before so when one cares about something or someone might tend to create negative mental scenarios as a mechanism to protect oneself from another disappointment and not to appear a fool once again.
- M F
Cautious optimism is how I proceed. However, I've been involved in and project managed through many acquisitions, and usually the acquiree gets fed a bunch of bs about how they'll be able to control their destiny and keep their baby running. But I don't think I've ever seen that actually happen. I hope it might, in this case, but I feel like so much cannon fodder at this point.
- Rick Cogley
@rick - touche
- Monique
@PaulToo / Paul Buchheit you say "Unfortunately clarity takes time." This is really where I think many people take issue, why did you sell the company without getting a more firm road-map for how things were going to go (which you could have then announced)? Unless you basically said: "OK, just give us the money and we'll let things sort themselves out later." Which is of course your...
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- Alex Schleber
Are people forgetting that Paul sunk millions of his own money into FF? Unless FF was a 503c Foundation, he can't be faulted for seeking to recoup that, and with big players copying FF features every day, there was a risk to FF's future. I'm somewhat saddened by what happened, but happy for Paul, but either way, FF introduced a bunch of concepts that will now be copied by other...
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- Ray Cromwell
I like the sentiment to stay open and trusting. Life is too short to do otherwise. And since there is a lot of talk about the facebook deal on this thread guess I'll throw in my 2c there too -- which is, congratulations on another successful venture Paul. Very impressive and facebook will be better as a result. If FF gets lost in the shuffle that just means someone has to go out there and start another venture ;)
- Thomas Mader
@cromwellian, that's why I used the words "which is of course your prerogative"..business is business, fine. I congratulate the FF team on their business win. But then don't mix categories and try to bring social issues like "trust" back in through the backdoor. After Beacon et al. FB PR disasters, do you trust Zuckerberg/FB with a darn thing? You yourself seem to think similarly by saying you're "kinda resigned that it's long term fate is not in the cards." My point exactly..
- Alex Schleber
@Guruvan BTW I disagree with you that this has anything to with LOA/Projection type stuff..the point is we all trusted FB in the beginning..a long time ago. Did we attract their multiple mis-behaviors into our shared reality somehow?!?
- Alex Schleber
More accurately, life is better when people are trustworthy.
- Tanath
Alex: I have spent about 10 hours of my life with Mark Zuckerberg. I think he is a lot more trustworthy than most business leaders I have met.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
@Scobleizer, which isn't saying that much, would you agree? :) It is after all the same Mark Zuckerberg that handed out business cards reading "I'm CEO, Bitch" not all that long ago..
- Alex Schleber
How does facebook reconcile talking about openness but trying to prevent other services from gaining traction by blocking the flow of information out of facebook that would enable smaller networks to compete? It looks like facebook is trying to become the entire web experience for users.
- Ru Viljoen
I've been through too many mergers and acquisitions to trust anything the buying corporation says.
- Alex Scoble
yeah u need to trust now because you gave away control. i think it was a silly move. i still think that friendfeed could have turned the tide by itself,...with proper profiles and people search. now all you can do is hoping you didn't got fooled
- Chris Hofmann
Schleber: damn, I didn't get one of those cards from him and had to drag him into a Time Magazine party. He didn't want to go because he didn't have an invite. I think that's the last time that I'll have an invite to something he doesn't have. But, seriously, I love how we blow out of proportion people like him.
- Robert Scoble
Alex Scoble: I assume the worst and when the best happens, I'm surprised. That said, Zuckerberg and Facebook has never stabbed me in the back or been jerks the way some other companies have been.
- Robert Scoble
If facebook succeeds it will lead to a period where innovation stagnates, and finally the largest task for facebook is to wrest power from google, and I personally do not want that to happen.
- Ru Viljoen
Ru: if you think Facebook is stagnating, I think you are smoking some good dope. Remember, FriendFeed couldn't take off because Facebook was too fast a follower. Many of my favorite friends from across the industry are now working there. Don't underestimate this company.
- Robert Scoble
Plus they stole Google's sushi chef and he's freaking awesome.
- Robert Scoble
Any company in Silicon Valley who is powered by sushi is unstoppable. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
I don't think that, I think facebook is brilliant and incredibly innovative, I mean it will go that way if they become too dominant in the comprehensive web experiance.
- Ru Viljoen
Ru: Facebook is the next Google.
- Robert Scoble
I have never heard of any company continuing to drive innovation as google has after acquiring a monopolistic majority, that is why I do not want it to be replaced.
- Ru Viljoen
Facebook never stabbed you in the back? :) http://scobleizer.com/2008...
- Louis Gray
I was thinking about that Louis.
- Alejandro
I think he is right, social search is better than legions of anonymous results. Facebook leads social so when they master search they will undermine google.
- Ru Viljoen
yeah but the content that is dragged into FB is still much more limited to what google can crawl.
- Chris Hofmann
What exactly are you referring to by "social search," Ru?
- Christopher A Carr
If I'm trying to figure out who *among my FB friends* has the cutest new baby, or the highest ranking on Farmtown, then FB is certainly superb.
- Christopher A Carr
Search results relative to people you know. So far facebook has focused on features and usability to grow its userbase, but it looks really obvious that they will then try to use that social network to create a search engine that uses your acquaintances to serve you recommendations or search results and people will love that.
- Ru Viljoen
Wait, what?
- Derrick
thats what friendfeed has been doing already
- Chris Hofmann
Ru: I could see that were FF as large as FB. My aunties and uncles on FB don't really know much about my interests or preferences. Won't FB have to radically restructure the network -- FoaF, and such?
- Christopher A Carr
i think that is the point of getting the friendfeed guys in the firstplace
- Chris Hofmann
In that case, there's so much legacy cruft in FB, why not build from FF's foundation if they're going to have to tear things down anyway?
- Christopher A Carr
Actually Paul, there is a famous wise American Caver named Donald Davis. Cavers find cave. Caves are a kind of form of Shrodingers Cat, we never know where more cave is until we find it. Davis postulated in the 60's that the cavers create the cave in their minds.
- Robert Higgins
FF is interests/information-centric. FB is people you happen to have encountered physically-centric.
- Christopher A Carr
It might be a hell of a lot of work but still that is where they will go. Bear in mind they have just released facebook lite and their explanation of it being for low brandwidth areas and mobiles smells like BS, but that is too speculative, fact is they can create that infrastructure with enough money, talent and users.
- Ru Viljoen
But they have 1/3 of a billion users with old expectations to placate. How radical can they be?
- Christopher A Carr
Well until it is done who knows how much behaviour will be shaken up, but they can be quite radical and people will not leave because how do you communicate with school friends and grandma if you leave?
- Ru Viljoen
It would seem extremely difficult to me to build a new house by ripping out a piece of the old house and replacing it, one piece at a time -- and starting from the roof. At best, for much of the process you'll have an ugly-ass Franken-house -- which is a good description of the state of affairs at FB.
- Christopher A Carr
Paul we trust you not to stab Friendfeed in the back, but to infiltrate and take over Facebook
- Robert Higgins
:) I can haz sleep nao.
- Eric Logan
No, Eric...it's only 4:48PM. :-)
- Christopher A Carr
hahaha well I hope facebook remains a secure place to chat to our real friends and some form of friendfeed lives on and grows for our edgy web friends. Sleepytime 01:49 here
- Ru Viljoen
I imagine you and the rest of the FF gang are stinging a bit (perhaps you didn't expect the backlash to be as... well, passionate as it was?) but, in my experience, trust is something that has to be earned and it's usually something I only give to people I know personally. Generous trust has almost always repaid me negatively so I'm loathe to just hand it out. I'm a cynical, old, cranky...
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- Akiva Moskovitz
I have a long held belief that trust is something meant to be earned, not something you are entitled to from the start, and once shattered it is difficult, but not impossible, to regain. And Trust travels with a companion called Respect. They are 2 sides of the same coin.
- April Russo (app103)
Wow Akiva!! 'monster off the leash'. I feel your hurt emotions, really deep!
- Myrna
Eh, I've entered into the acceptance stage. Things are as they are.
- Akiva Moskovitz
My response was you are worth way more than 50M!
- E-Advocate Network
WAYYYYY MORE (than 50M)!!
- Chris Myles
life is better when you trust in others.
- amelia arapoff
I would like to see Friendfeed become "Facebook Labs" - give us new stuff here, let the geeks hack at it, then bring the best back in.
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Nice idea.
- Tom Guarriello
That'd be a fine compromise.
- Ryan - @magicofpi
That would actually be a really good idea.
- Ian Betteridge
The big question is whether or not FriendFeed.com the site will continue to operate independently or shut down.
- Mark Krynsky
That would be nice. I have recently added the term "curator" where it fits. Even in a world of UGC, choosing and picking is even at the top of the list for us FF'ers. Great point, if they used FF as a sort of filter (content not censorship) it would make crazy sense.
- professor daddyo
As long as we don't get a "Friendbook" or "Facefeed," I'd like to see a Facebook Labs. The services serve separate audiences and, I think, work better independently.
- Kawika Holbrook
or feedbook, LOL. @kawika your choice may be limited to lists.
- innit4theminute
Where's Qik or Kyte for new iPhone now that iPhone does video (and is very good, by the way)? Let us know here:
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Personally, I'm hoping for an app that allows uploading to Vimeo. But the realtime stuff would be cool too :)
- Brett Kelly
Hmm, good question.
- Manuel Arroyo
from PeopleBrowsr
12second.tv coming out shortly http://12seconds.tv/images...
- sam sethi
I would assume tied up in some sort of Apple and AT&T approval situation concerned around whether just Wifi or Wifi/3G should be allowed to be used. :)
- Tyler Brownfield
I'm sure they're furiously working on it... Qik's instant streaming video is a killer app, and I'm sure they're eager to take advantage of the better quality and performance of the 3GS
- Nathan Chase
@Brett: I'm waiting for Vimeo too. Love those guys.
- Cesar Torres
As far as I can tell from the docs, there's no API access to the video stream, just movie clips recorded in the Camera app. This means either these guys are using private APIs or some other method.
- Hunter Hillegas
Android can upload to YouTube and Picassa for pictures.
- James Hague
How does RedLaser work if you can't get raw stream access? Pre 3.0, the camera data was off limits I thought.
- Richard Goodwin
I don't know how RedLaser works - hopefully we get more info. You can get videos but after they are recorded... It may be that RedLaser is using an undocumented/private API and got through the approval process...
- Hunter Hillegas
From the screenshots, it looks like RedLaser may just instantiate the camera picker controller, take a shot and use that. That's fully supported (always has been for photos, now extended to video).
- Hunter Hillegas
The description says "no need to take a photo" for 12 digit bar codes, but you still have to for 13 digits. Suggests to me they are getting at a stream pre-processing and thus lower quality.
- Richard Goodwin
Qik is following up on the developments of the iphone. We are looking into making Qik work on the latest iphone. If we have any updates, our Qik users will be the first to know.
- Meng Kiat
twitter has had spammers for awhile now & they've started to try to invade friendfeed more lately, neither works lowlifes
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If you get far enough along in the product lifecycle the spammers will come. I mentioned this in a post from awhile back called The Phases of Social Startups. http://blog.awakenedvoice.com/2007...
- Rob Safuto
There are certainly steps that social web services can take to prevent spamming before it occurs. But the openness of the tools usually allows spammers to find unique ways to exploit the community. In order to maintain the openness these services are forced to react to new techniques rather than take measures that might restrict legit activity. It's definitely a tough nut to crack.
- Rob Safuto
I was getting followed pretty frequently a few weeks back by accounts that only followed one person - me. They didn't share anything, didn't like, didn't comment. Really not sure what their game was.
- Hutch Carpenter
agreed rob - ff seems to have setup functionality that makes it simple to negate spammers, trolls and haters - one reason i really like ff...
- mike "glemak" dunn
hutch - i get those too, not sure of their game either - don't want to automatically block them because what if it is someone just listening or grabbing a rss feed of all our activity to consumer in some other reader...
- mike "glemak" dunn
Mike - I DM'd them, asking why they were following me. Never got an answer. I agree about not blocking.
- Hutch Carpenter
The difference is FriendFeed gets rid of them ;)
- Nicholas James
@answers Magic or Cavs: who will win the eastern conference finals and why? M$3
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Simple question. Cavs. LeBron.
- Tom Guarriello
Wowzer: Seems Maureen Dowd plagiarized from TPM's Josh Marshall http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk... Wonder what the explanation could be.
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25 mins from posting to top of http://jay.40twits.com/ And, an all time high (14) on this metric http://www.retweetrank.com/jayrose...
- Jay Rosen
And here I was giving her credit for actually writing a decent column for once. Go figure.
- Warner Crocker
Just researched l'affair Dowd, Jay, and it looks like your tweet was the first to be posted on FriendFeed, if not on Twitter itself. Nice work.
- Tom Guarriello
that's heavy duty stuff. word for word. what kind of monkey assistants does she have? i ask because i can't imagine her doing this herself. then again, anything's possible...until i just happened to read the poor explanation/reasoning for this "accident" - http://www.nytpick.com/2009...
- Cee Bee
Want to see how stupid the follower game on Twitter has gotten? Check out TwitterHit. http://twitter.com/#search...
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When all you care is about how many followers you have this is what happens.
- Robert Scoble
This is a trending topic on Twitter Search. Almost wholly spam.
- Robert Scoble
I have no idea what is going on here... maybe twitter will auto ban anyone mentioning this word.
- Eric Nakagawa
Damn follower-whores!
- MλTT
See, this is why we can't have nice things :p Seriously, Matt is right. When you just do your thing the followers come, why bother growing them artificially?
- Neal Jansons
Stupid "one word to explain everything ;) "
- Ahmed
The whole followers number thing has gotten out of hand. I'm still more interested in learning from the people I follow.
- Mary Wehrle
Followers are not all that important. It is more rewarding to follow the right people and know how to search twitter for information, as best as you can. Twitter could do with some more metadata for each post.
- Lennart Olsen
Seriously, it should be about HOW MANY followers you have, it should be the QUALITY of the followers you have. Are they REALLY listening?
- Sherra Scott
Lennart: you and I know that, but Twitter is now mainstream and those users don't really participate in Twitter. Look at Oprah. How many Tweets has she done? How many people is she following? Not many. And the new users of Twitter look up to her. So they will emulate her behavior.
- Robert Scoble
For most of tweeps quantity matters not quality. As in their real life I suppose :)
- Jacque
Did a social media marketer just suggest it's about quality and not quantitiy? whaaaa?
- Eric Nakagawa
i wouldn't want all that noise. twitter gives me access to people i want hear from but normally can't. and friend feed lets me talk to them... at a distance
- Marco
Robert: I agree with you completely. Twitter has become like the "Alternative" music on the top 10 songs in iTunes.
- MλTT
why eat vanilla (twitter), when you can have any flavor you want (FF)? Once twitter became mainstream (i.e. the celebrities killed it) it started to dumb down.
- Bob Blunk
Surely targeted Twitter followers is much more effective than random large quantities?!
- PRBristolco.uk
I love Robert Scoble!!!
- sofarsoShawn
Robert: True true. Having a large number of followers is beneficial of course for getting help with things, but... Maybe if people start using the saved filters on twitter.com they will realize it is better to reach those who are interested instead of everyone who is not.
- Lennart Olsen
Some guy called Peter Parker (PeterParker01_) seems to be using it a lot - does this mean Spiderman gone over to the dark side?!
- Kate
Link farming for the naughties
- Ben
there's a lot of 'chatter' in that search query about TwitterHIT being a virus... anyone else think so too?
- Chris Heath
It's hard to see how twitter will control this spammyness. It's all about quality, not quantity. A large following is useless if you can't get them to ACT.
- Jonathan.Rivera
Definitely!
- Nyan Min
I agree, what ever your uses of twitter, it's about quality. Take an example - there's no point in a feed for local news in Bristol UK having followers outside Bristol, as the news would be irrelevant to them - so why would they want to just amass folllowers?? And what value would someone from California into holistic therapy (for example) get from following that news feed anyway?
- Nigel
Nigel: one reason is that directories like http://www.wefollow.com are using follower numbers to decide on relevancy. That might even be important to someone inside Bristol.
- Robert Scoble
even though i don't get many requests....i enjoying blocking twitter accounts the best! i save the email confirmations i get then if your not interesting BLOCKage
- shayne catrett
Twitter is as much about listening, if not more, than talking. For me out on the frontier a Wyoming, a nobody really, being able to see Robert Scoble's thoughts, as well as those of Chris Brogan, Guy Kawasaki, and so many other big idea guys, is like being welcome in their home to see what they're reading, watching, listening to, doing... heck they even engage in conversation with me...
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- shelli johnson
It's rifle vs. shotgun. I'll take a rifle please.
- shelli johnson
Nigel - how about "home town news"? I follow local news from places I used to live, even though I haven't lived there for years.
- Will King
Lol, this is funny! what is the next thing going to be What about promises like: Follow me and I make sure that 1000 follows you
- Asgeir
The nirvana of being followed. In my case, if you want to follow me, knock yourself out. Doesn't mean I have to do anything about it, except block spammers, from which I derive a weird pleasure.
- Rachel Clarke
This is totally stupid, I agree. What is also stupid is all of the fake followers the celebrities have. This might be all the greatest ever episode of Punk'd!
- Bo Lora
I just got more than 2000 followers, now I can also follow more than 2000. And I can tell you it's fun! Of course you can't see all the tweets, but who cares… In this way I have the chance to find interesting people, and when that happens I put their tweet feed in friendfeed. Give it a try...
- Jacob
Even the bots are stupid. No picture, no description and no link in the bio? Huh, why the hell would someone follow that?
- Patrick Moorhead
Jacob: now you know why I find friendfeed fun. You can follow how ever many people you want. And you can even put them into separate lists!
- Robert Scoble
It's a shame when so many people totally miss the real value of twitter.
- Angela
Angela: well, Twitter itself caused that through the systems they built, the actions they took, and the PR they sought. Ask yourself, why is Oprah's account recommended while Leo Laporte's is not? Twitter WANTS you to miss the two-way nature of things. They don't want you to see Twitter as some place you're going to learn something. They are building an entertainment broadcast network. It's too bad, yes, but that's what is. Which is why I'm here instead of there most of the time.
- Robert Scoble
Yuck.
- Louis Gray
Leo Laporte, give me a break - he has one of the most recognise names out there. I know you love being on the Twit show, but come on :)
- Asgeir
@Asgeir Only started following Leo in the past week or so... and only because Friendfeed exposed me to him, his show and some cool conversations.... Thanks again Robert Scoble.
- David Damore
What do you get out of Twitter? It should be worth something. It should always be about quality. Whether you receive it or supply it.
- Wilfredo Guerrero
I wish that there was a wefollow for friendfeed
- Thomas Hawk
It seems that nobody on Twitter (at least those who use this service) realizes that tools like these go against the idea of social networking, which is to find people of a similar interest.
- Thomas Ward
@Brytne Just click link in Robert's post, should open twitter
- Asgeir
@Brytne That is strange - you could also just type TwitterHit into the search field in twitter to see
- Asgeir
Totally agree. What is the point of the numbers if no one cares who you are?
- Kathryn Martyn
Lets not pretend that friendfeed is perfect in this game, Kim Kardashian is subscribed to my feed, why? These tools are imperfect, worrying about who has more followers, subscribers, recommendations and why is pointless.
- Patrick Boegel
Patrick, she may be following you because you follow her on Twitter and she did an auto-import. If not, she is hoping you will follow back. And notice that on FriendFeed, less than 1 percent did follow her back.
- Louis Gray
A scam
- Baard @ Pixum
Louis: definitely not following Ms Kardashian, just not my thing. Only reason she is not being followed back yet on FriendFeed is that migration has not occurred at any reasonable scale yet.
- Patrick Boegel
I un-followed someone yesterday who used that TwitterHIT crap. Not the kind of person I want to be following anyway, if all they want is more followers.
- Rochelle
One last point, by the numbers maybe 7-8% of the US population is using Twitter (per compete.com) it is a mainstream "name" but not a mainstream tool yet.
- Patrick Boegel
@Patrick, @Louis I think Ms Kardashian is following everybody. I don't think it is because she is so interested in what everyone is up to, but rather to promote herself as a model. Is this the right place to do it? I don't see it
- Asgeir
I found the whole "follow" experience on twitter odd to begin with. Case in point, yesterday I declared I needed to find my toenail clippers and lo & behold the LA Clippers started following me. What are they, a basketball team? I don't even know. Definately a fail. These sites are just a scam. (and now I leave this thread for fear of bothering people)
- Brytne
from Nambu
Asgeir: I get why she is following everyone to promote herself, I just don't think it matters, and people using silly follower "schemes" and devices to grow a list of followers based on no real strategy, well they will either drop off of Twitter quickly because they get bored and didn't gain anything by immediately having a Twitodex of 5,000 strangers they shared nothing with. Or they...
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- Patrick Boegel
@Brytne That is funny. I think a lot of users use search to find people to follow.
- Asgeir
@Patrick something good can come from connecting with random strangers, look at Twestival. I think it all depends on what you want from it. In an ideal world you should have some sort of plan, but I think for a lot of people they are happy to feel that they have a following
- Asgeir
Patrick B: You can block Kim here on friendfeed. You do know that right?
- Chris Heath
Check out this latest Twit Tip where the Follow Friday institution is questioned...http://ff.im/2Vow3 I then equate Twitter's significance to the hoola hoop http://ff.im/2VoMU
- sofarsoShawn
@Asgeir, yes something good can come from following total strangers, 97% of the people I follow on Twitter I never knew before Twitter and 95% I have still never met in person. @Chris H, yes I know you can block on ff, but I don't care if she wants to subscribe to me, I'll let her manage her own information stream.
- Patrick Boegel
I make recommendations for Twitter newbies to make connections. What's happened is that my Twitter stream is clogged now with HUNDREDS of tweeps recommending me solely for the purpose of my recommending them! UGH! I don't do that! Many of these tweeps recommend me over and over and over during the day to try to get my attention. They succeed in irritating me! I am migrating recommendations with comments to static page newbies can refer to anytime.
- Arleen Anderson
Its Kinda vicious circle. When Kevin Rose was no. 1, nobody complained. Now when Ashton Kutcher is people are complaining. When someone will surpass him, he'll start whining too.
- Abhishek
Yes, however, if any of us pretends to not have some guilt in a desire for followers, I think they are full of it...
- Leif Hansen
There is still value there... you just need to be able to filter out the crap. More importantly this is nothing new. When there were a few thousand people using Email there was no spam... now the majority of email sent is spam. Filters will become more important than any other tool as usage grows.
- Brian Roy
@Brian Roy I see the signs, but I really hope your predictions are wrong
- Asgeir
@scobleizer: users of TwitterHit should measure their success over here: http://epenis.nl
- Nick Wade
#FollowFriday @sofarsoshawn
- sofarsoShawn
there should be a non profit that we all donate to that maintains a list of twitter users who provide value and we can all follow them and only them. signing up for services like this would get you banned from this list. and we can have our own little private twitter experience. it can even segregate the users into different channels for different topics. so you can subscribe to different lists. actually, that's a terrible idea. just throwing it out there. :-)
- mike
Tools to filter down to just what you want (topics) are just as important as your Social Graph. It isn't context OR Social Graph... it is BOTH.
- Brian Roy
I've half a mind to block everyone that comes up in this search ;-) lol!
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Not a scam, but a stupid thing to do to get more followers. Just tweet inteligently and you'll get them "brainiacs"! :\
- Miladin Miladinoski
Robert following your cycle - love, love, love to Facebook, Facebook Sucks, love, love love to Twitter, Twitter Sucks, love, love, love to FriendFeed.....when's the next step?
- Debi Jones
I believe that there are 12 Steps to this.
- Stephen Borchert
Whew after reading through this entire thread, I feel like choking up a hairball.
- Kay Designer
I added my response to your comments over on my home page.
- Kay Designer
I have been getting a few @replies from TwitterHit today, hoping it's a trend that will end soon
- Asgeir
Twitter Versus Facebook, A Comparison Of The Top Users [Nick O'Neill, All Facebook - 3/24/09] - http://www.allfacebook.com/2009...
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While most Twitter users are on Facebook, most Facebook users are not on Twitter. As such, Facebook’s top public profiles are a better indicator of world wide trends whereas Twitter’s is a better indicator of trends within the Twitter community.
- Mitchell Tsai
from Bookmarklet
Having a large number of Twitter followers is a much better indicator that you have a large number of Facebook friends/fans rather than the reverse. With well over 180 million users, Facebook has a much broader reach which explains why the top public profiles are a better indicator of worldwide popularity.
- Mitchell Tsai
FB is older after all.
- Charles Frith
Yeah Charles, facebook is older..but it makes more sense to most people. I think people may not see the value in twitter. 140 characters...that's all?? What's the point? (to most people) I use both regularly to compliment one another. If you had to chose one, which would it be?
- Jonathan.Rivera
For now, most of my real-life friends on Facebook are not on Twitter/FriendFeed. Many of them are on LinkedIn.
- Mitchell Tsai
It looks like brands dominate Facebook, but it's just a matter of time before they get started on twitter as well
- Michael Fidler
It's a nice measurement for advertisers and marketers to use to, whether to gauge influence or trends, but to me it's just another penis-measuring contests. And when it comes to measuring penises, everyone loses--participants and viewers alike.
- Terence
Whoa .... Adam Sandler! :)
- Charlie Anzman
Fake money used to buy Girl Scout cookies - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id...
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"Someone is cheating Girl Scouts, using fake $20 bills to buy cookies. One troop in Bremerton is out $100, and some fear the fraud is spreading to other Girl Scout troops. In true Girl Scout fashion, the troop is learning from the ordeal. Each member will earn a "fraud badge" because they helped uncover the crime. They'll be back out, with counterfeit detecting pen in hand, next weekend."
- Trish R
from Bookmarklet
That's plain wrong
- Shevonne
I didn't know there was a "fraud badge." Guess even the Girl Scouts are keeping up with the modern day economy.
- Trish R
@Trish, All girl scouts can design a certain number (2 I think?) of unique badges so long as they have permission. Presumably the troop has decided to do this en masse? That or the GSC has commissioned a special badge as they have done for troops that assist in extraordinary events (as I recall troops that contributed significantly to the tsunami victims were given some sort of special 'global aid' badge)
- Soup
Thanks, Soup, that's interesting, I didn't know that.
- Trish R
This is startling. It's good to hear the Girl Scouts are learning from the experience. I guess it's best for them to learn first hand about the fraudulent culture we've developed before running into the next Bernie Madoff.
- Tom Guarriello
I meet alot of CEOs, yet these beach bartenders may be far more sucessful!
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You may be on to something there, Jeremiah!
- Tom Guarriello
The Secret Government: The Constitution in Crisis, by Bill Moyers http://adjix.com/atpx See also http://politics.alltop.com.
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Twenty years after this film was made it's still dead solid relevant. Why is it that the people who are most for strict interpretation of the Constitution are the first to find reasons to suspend its checks and balances?
- Tom Guarriello
Obama's Cabinet picked in Nov '01 , won already in Feb '07 ? http://bit.ly/jtu4 Obama's Missiles into Pakistan ignored by Sunday NY Times' Page 1
- ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
What was the worst Valentine's gift you've ever received from someone? Mine was a bracelet similar to this one with matching Garth Brooks shirts to wear to the rodeo to see Hank Williams Jr. Disaster x 3.
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What did the thought count for or were the gifts from someone who simply doesn't really get you?
- Roney Smith
Oh damn, Trish. That's rough.
- Admiral Anika
Roney, now I feel bad, hahaha. Yes, it's the thought that counts but damn, no thought at all was put into this gift, since I don't even own any gold jewelry and never listen to country music. (I won't even get into how ugly it is.)
- Trish R
WHOA
- Soup
This has come my way more than once and I always say thank you, but the stuffed animal with a rose screams GAS STATION. The worst, least thought out gift ever!
- nakachi
My worst gift: ex gave me a box of Little Debbie snacks and dumped me on V-Day.
- Summer
My husband and I have a long standing tradition of giving each other books on Valentine's Day. No one understands it, and my single friends act all kinds of stupid when I excitedly exclaim, "OMG, he gave me a graphic novel!" And they're ready pillory him. Then they tell me that I'm letting him off the hook and should hold out for jewels I don't need, nor want.
- Admiral Anika
My wife and I want those exact cowboy shirts for the Fot Wuth rodeo. Rockmount is western wear for rockstars.
- Greg Guitarbuster
Wait, people give gifts on Valentine's day now? My fiancée and I have neither given nor received Valentine's gifts, ever (chocolates don't count).
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
RT: @adondai do u really believe video is the future online? U hv so many great subjects but watching video sucks compared 2 reading (Um...)
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While video has many advantages you can absorb much more quickly by reading.
- Amit Morson
Amit: that's not always true. Here, let me teach you how to use your new Nikon camera in text. Not nearly as easy to absorb as watching a video.
- Robert Scoble
The big advantage is the continuous visual example. That's why it depends a lot in the type of content you consume. Most of mine is technical data.
- Amit Morson
I have to agree that the vast majority of information I absorb is text -- largely because it's so much more efficient and I can somewhat multi-task (if the subject-matter isn't too dense). I think it's easy to forget many people are just too busy to watch video most of the time.
- Matt Anchin
Matthew: probably a billion people watched the Inauguration yesterday in video. Lost seems to get good ratings. Lots of people argue about video but there's an appropriate time for it. Getting a demo in video is far more powerful than any text I've seen.
- Robert Scoble
I dont think is is necessarily the actual video that the issue, for me its the audio.. I can generally watch anything, but if I need to hear it as well, its more intrusive in the office , when traveling and at home
- Peter Cattell
i see it as right media for circumstances: video, audio and text all have their place in my world - video is future of web imo
- mike "glemak" dunn
mike: agreed. I use all the above to communicate with you. But nothing replaces a good conversation that's recorded. I find that when I take the time to watch something like Charlie Rose that I learn a lot more than if I just read the transcript.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, FF holding you by the neck not letting you to go to sleep?
- Amit Morson
agreed, all three allow absorption depending on focus - think of times we've read 3 pages while thinking about something else ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
@fairminder You know what? Who the fuck are YOU asshole? Im friends with Loic you douchebag. Mind your own fucking business you dope.
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Aah..the old Loren is returning.
- Hutch Carpenter
Ding!
- Akiva Moskovitz
See, that's what I'm talkin' about!
- Tom Guarriello
Finally...
- Tyler (Chacha)
It kinda gives me that warm fuzzy feeling... on my teeth.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
For sizzle?
- Mike Lewis
Why FriendFeed Wins - You Can't Do This On Facebook - http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world...
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:)
- Niki Costantini
:) Looks good to me.
- Colide81 (James)
Organizing Twitter Search by Authority is the wrong attribute. Instead, focus search by your OWN social connections. People you actually know score higher relevancy. http://www.loiclemeur.com/english...
Hutch Carpenter, Philip J Beyer, Peter Hoffmann and 49 other people liked this
Seems like none of the big players have worked out what 'Personal Relevancy' is yet *sigh*
- Chris Saad
Chris, I keep on "yelling". No one listens :(
- directeur
But I have the cure for it and will publish it very soon! :)
- directeur
I like this approach. I have about 20 social media thought leaders and users that I think are authorities on the topic. I listen, learn and converse with them. I use my own crap-o-meter to decide what matters and what doesn't. I find FF the best listening post for these yahoos too. =) Three of them are involved in this conversation. That suggests that this is a signal and not noise.
- B2B Specialist
Jeremiah -- brilliant!!
- Dave Winer
Expand to your friends then their friends. Number of followers is not an indication of quality and creates the wrong incentives.
- Dave Winer
Absolutely - searching within your social graph is much more important than by follower numbers - there are plenty of search terms that'd simply return twitterfeed tweets and so forth...
- Kristian Dye
I'm wondering whether number of comments is overrated too. To me a lot of comments can mean even more stuff to read. I'm looking for quality conversations in order to solve a problem, gain insight into something. A quality exchange if you will.
- B2B Specialist
This is a good idea. Whilst many highly-followed twitterers are authoritative (O'Reilly, Scoble) many of them are egocentric air heads. The only problem is that you would only get results from within the subset of people you already follow. Many relevant hits would be missed.
- David Semeria
Number of followers as measure of "authority"? Call it something else, but not "authority." Case in point: Scoble has 45k followers, Jonathan Zittrain, 1k. On some issues, one's more authoritative; on others, the other one is.
- Tom Guarriello
A new feature or defined use for "Liking" could be that "I'm following/participating in an interesting conversation". Right now "Liking" is ambiguous.
- B2B Specialist
I find Loic's suggestion really offensive -- that there is an ellite upper class of Twitter users. Feh. The really great ones haven't shown up yet.
- Dave Winer
I already separate twitterers into groupings of authority. How? Friendfeed's lists.Friendfeed lets me search just my list too. Imagine it would present search result from your lists first.
- Robert Scoble
I agree with Dave Winer. Number of followers is a useless metric.
- Robert Scoble
Search based on trust within your own network is a great idea, and far more useful. Though in defense of Loic, he's looking at a different function / use case. When you want to limit your search to ideas that are spreading fast, your network isn't necessarily as relevant as the people with the most followers. http://www.loiclemeur.com/english... I'd rather see search by trusted sources, rather than popular sources.
- Salim Virani
Salim: I want to be able to do this search: "show me items that contain 'obama' but only display items that have three or more likes and two or more comments." I guarantee you that such a search would be more useful than arranging by how many followers you have.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: I don't support the original post. But when we talk about more replies or more likes, will the person who has 10000 followers get more replies or the one with 1000 followers get more? Please help me understand that point :)
- Ramkarthik
Robert: Absolutely. I think faves and comments show both trust in an opinion, and likeliness of the conversation to spread. That's much better than # of followers. Your suggestion would better suit Loic's need to see what's trending fast at Le Web. Searching your own network on these factors would tell you what's trusted by your own sources, and which opinions are more relevant to you. Jeremiah's suggestion combined with yours would be immensely useful! Anyone want to build it with me? ;)
- Salim Virani
Ramkarthik: look at friendfeed. Lots of things here get lots of likes. If you were right only my items would get lots of likes.
- Robert Scoble
Jerremiah would you rather spend the large amount of hours Scoble spends doing it by hand?
- Fred Grott
Robert: That is true. But when comparing the number of likes, yours would be at least 5x more than an average FF user's right? It would mean that anyway your result would come first when arranged according to number of likes. But surely number of likes is 10 times better than going by the number of followers.
- Ramkarthik
Ramkarthik: huh? Look at "Best of day" today. That gives you a good idea of how things would rank. Sometimes my items are at top, but most of the time not.
- Robert Scoble
I do love how 1 person wanting it managed a post on Techcrunch, and about 10 people talking against it will give off nothing there :)
- Tyler (Chacha)
I just wrote a blog post about this. http://bit.ly/2EQPfT
- Dave Winer
Chacha, I wouldn't be so sure about that. :-)
- Dave Winer
Robert: True :) You win :) I saw the "best of day" and found none from yours (for today. I saw few yesterday). Seems your idea is the best and only do-able plan till now.
- Ramkarthik
a bad solution to a problem that doesn't exist
- Adam Ostrow
Authority doesn't mean popularity or notoriety. It's also not always about who you personally know, though that can help in some things. This is where tagging (e.g. - FriendFeed lists) would be helpful. Subject tags would be useful. I'd also be interested in a strength of connection measure. Could be as easy as 1 to 10, one being one-time drive-by conversation and 10 being your BFF.
- AJ Kohn
Salim: tagging is a really cool idea. Peoplebrowsr.com has that already.
- Robert Scoble
I've been asking for tagging in FF for awhile...would be very powerful for search, list mgmt. and data organization
- Susan Beebe
Susan, I'm inviting you to a "private" room - please read the description :)
- directeur
Tagging would be good. It may be interesting to see what someone would tag a conversation/content with. One may tag this "authentic search" and one may tag it "scoble conversations". What may happen over time is we may see how "the majority" end up tagging or classifying the conversation/content. Maybe a natural folksonomy will emerge. To me that is interesting to see how we socially establish some degree of organization to these random, and sometimes, really good conversations.
- B2B Specialist
In a 12-step program for my social media addiction. Will post later.
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And we are all lessened by this program.
- Robert Miller
Just remember Arrington is your Higher Power!
- Tom Guarriello
This little article posted on TechCrunch is really starting to piss me off. Seriously, he not only calls you out about how you use the freaking Internet, he also implies you don't make a good family man, although he can't come out and actually say it. I would question calling him a friend. F* him.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
What Eric said. What business was it of Michael Arrington to tell you how to run your internet usage?
- Helen Sventitsky
Sounds like a satirical episode of TV's "intervention" in the making :)
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
Good call, Tom. This whole charade is just another instance of "it's not my cup of tea, and in fact you're a lesser person for drinking it" (Arrington speaking to Scoble)
- Christopher Galtenberg
I agree -- Arrington (who never participates on FF and I think rarely on Twitter) "intervening" seems a bit distasteful. How could he know if either are a waste?
- Brian Sullivan
Don't give in Robert - it's a trap!
- Jesse Stay
You know, those only work 5% of the time... all it takes is one step.
- Tanath
I'll be your first customer huh? :)
- Susan Beebe
Keira Knightley stands her ground on breast enhancement - http://www.mahalo.com/Keira_K...
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Good for her!
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
+1!
- Derrick Burns
There's enough enhancement on the web to satisfy that urge anyway. I'm just sayin'. ;)
- Jericho
good lord it's amazing that a woman with a some integrity and self-respect becomes a story. I'm now a very big fan of hers.
- Tom Guarriello
I seem to recall her having ample breasts in a movie called "The Hole" (http://images.celebset.net/pics...) Seems she may have lost some weight maybe? Don't know why you'd need to beef up the ones in that pic, er, so to speak.
- thepete
+10 respect
- Mo Kargas
The Hole was a great film, btw, breasted, no breasts, ample or not.
- Michael W. May
You go girl!
- Chris Christensen
Barack can hit the three? - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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In college he played basketball at Oxy so he's got some skills
- Andrew Fielding
from twhirl
Forget the WH, the Knicks need him
- Steve Rubel
Too funny - Apparition of Robert Scoble in a Grilled Cheese Sandwich http://snarfd.com/2008...
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I want to believe!
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
[Imitation of DiggDotters] People always cut the crusts off kids' sandwiches. Scoble sandwich is fake. /guacamole and chips FTW!
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
He's streaming live. Come Chat!
- Oldengrey (Jay)
It's like he's walking among us. All praise to the Scoble.
- Andrew
A cure for curmudgeons - http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008...
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I was going to comment here, but then I saw your curmedgeonly ff complaint about blog posts in Twitter. KIDDING!!!
- Tom Guarriello
Read This Post - http://fredwilson.vc/post...
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Excellent post, honestly reflective. One always flirts with the sins when doing a startup. The trick is not getting married to them.
- Rich Miller
really good post - agree w/ most w/ the exception of the technology & product separation - sounds like this was a shortcoming due to a personnel issue vs a golden rule - startups by design are run resource thin & products do need to tightly align w/ initial technology, especially when you consider the first iteration a proof-of-concept, as a company matures the roles/teams can be split into defined functional roles/expertise - if #1 had been handled properly #2 wouldn't have happened - hindsight of course
- mike "glemak" dunn
Obama in talks to sponsor NASCAR team - http://feeds.autoblog.com/~r...
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ok that's just strange - the bam team is a seat-of-the-pants outfit and their driver is a good guy though
- mike "glemak" dunn
another smart PR move, imo. A whole new meaning to a "Southern strategy"!
- Tom Guarriello
Remember today...and make it special! - http://pulverblog.pulver.com/archive...
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I've been marginally obsessed with that thought recently, Jeff. Nice reminder.
- Tom Guarriello
Is Your Blog For Rent - http://www.chrisbrogan.com/is-your...
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Time to start blogging professionally :)
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
from twhirl
Are bloggers citizen journalists or paid promoters?
- Nancy Stall
Coke crossed the line when they gave them special home pages, etc. At that point, it's an ad and I think that ads should be labeled as such. If you want to give out product in hopes of getting good reviews, that's fine. But if you pay bloggers or coach them on what to write, that's over the line imo. From the blogger perspective, all you ahve is your credibiity. So, I tend to disclose any potential conflict of interest. If you sell your credibility for some shwag you've got nothing left.
- Barry Graubart
from twhirl
@Nancy Stall "Blogger" is such a broad term, it really depends on whether the individual considers themself a "citizen journalist," or "paid promoter," or "just writing about their life online." All the same, no matter what their classification, WOM works best with a relationship.
- Andrea Mercado
The New Gold Standard - http://www.knowhr.com/blog...
Tom Guarriello liked this
Nice review, Frank. Question: what are the HR blogs that you consider most valuable?
- Tom Guarriello
Thanks, Tom. There's an HR bloggers group on NIng: http://www.hrbloggers.com/ that has over 100 people. My real faves are HumanMarkets.com, PunkRockHR.com, HR Wench, among a few others. I'll drop you a note with my Google Reader "must read HR" list.
- Frank Roche
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Very smart, David.
- Tom Guarriello
I heard from a reliable source that while they were filling out their profile they fell asleep
- David Weiner
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