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Re: Event: Google Technology User Group (GTUG) Shanghai Event on 29th Nov - http://www.mobinode.com/2009...
"Will you be streaming the event?" - Tom
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Second Life Founder Launching Reputation Currency System - http://www.readwriteweb.com/readwri...
she's just a love machine - Tom
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Re: Twitter List iPhone Apps - http://www.avc.com/a_vc...
"Actually you don't need an app for that. Twitter lists could be presented within ad units already, no need to wait in the iPhone app store queue. On iPhones JavaScript comes native to the Safari browser, so you can have a scrolling list of tweets from a list e.g. TNT's NBA running in an expandable banner, and you can offer oAuth twitter connect features if the user would like to follow the Twitter list. I'm not going to switch from Tweetie and there's no need for a brand to compete on usability. I have to go call Turner now. Thanks!" - Tom
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Re: iPhone Finally Comes to China…Without WiFi - http://mashable.com/2009...
"The WiFi argument is problematic, but remember that black market iPhones also do not have iTunes or the App Store. http://j.mp/rC16l" - Tom
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Re: Open Subtitles - http://www.avc.com/a_vc...
"I had an idea for using open subtitles to make reality tv global. I have no interest in watching US reality tv, but how much fun would it be to see reality tv from other countries?" - Tom
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Re: So Many Mediums – David Berube's Blog - http://dtb.me/general...
"I use a google talk --> friendfeed stream that has a badge on my blogger blog for link storage, bookmarking songs on pandora, and sharing stuff that is unexpectedly from me - stuff that has nothing to do with my interests, which is what people on twitter would want to see from me. Therefore twitter --> facebook which gets updates about me, links that have to do with my interest, retweets from people I follow etc. And facebook gets the same, but sometimes I post directly to facebook for personal photos, videos and other stuff that I only want friends to see. And then every once in a while I update my status on linkedin if I do something careerworthy or write a post on a real news site." - Tom
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Chinese iPhone Pricing Revealed: It’s The Exact Opposite Of Ours - http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009...
Reversed subsidy is nice, but you generally can't switch from China Mobile to China Unicom, it's a geographic limitation. - Tom
Reversed subsidy is nice, but you generally can't switch from China Mobile to China Unicom, it's a geographic limitation. - Tom
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Re: The NYC Web Startup Sector - http://www.avc.com/a_vc...
"Love slide 6 (trading places) and slide 9 (times sq red line newstand?). Anyclip comes to mind in terms of how our media obsession turns into an engine for new business models. I'm not sure if slide 12, factor 6, the nyc lifestyle is a strong enough photo... To me NYC is the most data intensive city. NYC's population are the heaviest users and providers of data for meeting scheduling, bar hopping, sports checking, restaurant critiquing, work emailing, calorie counting, and multiplicity of check-ins each day. I feel that the sample of data and relevance of that data to a population does not exist even in SF let alone the valley. There's a reason that foursquare and meetup started and thrive in NYC and it's not just to get people away from their computers, it's because they already are, and NYC is the city that's tracking that behavior best." - Tom
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Twitter Spitter: The problem of autotweets from 3rd party apps and how to solve it - http://www.thisisgoingtobebig.com/2009...
great ideas charlie. - Tom
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Re: this-party-s-lame-max - http://anyclip.com/title...
"Max: "Where's the bar?" Ian: "Bar!"" - Tom
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Re: TC50: AnyClip searches movies for quotes, famous moments - http://digital.venturebeat.com/2009...
"Reid Hoffman's feedback on distribution is instructive, and I think to be a winner anyclip will need to open up an API and let others experiement with distribution -here are some ideas for how to make that distribution better. http://www.uwsjournal.com/2009......" - Tom
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"this is a useful clip, but also need the companion that includes "well listen to this!!!!"" - Tom
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The Old Fail Whale Was So Much Cuter - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
I've seen this, but usually it goes back to the good old whale when you refresh. - Tom
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If Apple Allows Competition for iTunes on the iPhone... http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Apps that help you find movie and TV clips to share. They could come from movie studios, Hulu, Funny or Die etc. There needs to be a better movie quote search API in place to make this work well on both the desktop and mobile, but it could be quite cool, and could end up being plugins for existing apps like Shazam, or IM clients as well. Here are some more ideas: http://www.uwsjournal.com/2009... - Tom from FriendFeed MT Plugin
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Comment on: If Apple Allows Competition for iTunes on the iPhone... - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Apps that help you find movie and TV clips to share. They could come from movie studios, Hulu, Funny or Die etc. There needs to be a better movie quote search API in place to make this work well on both the desktop and mobile, but it could be quite cool, and could end up being plugins for existing apps like Shazam, or IM clients as well. Here are some more ideas: http://www.uwsjournal.com/2009... - Tom from FriendFeed MT Plugin
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Re: Books For Entrepreneurs - http://www.avc.com/a_vc...
"Kavalier and Clay, Atlas Shrugged both not on kindle!" - Tom
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Re: Where's The Best Place For Freelancers To Work In NYC? - mediabistro.com: FishbowlNY - http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbow...
"New Work City @ 200 Varick" - Tom
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Re: Building A Real Mobile Web - http://www.avc.com/a_vc...
"ah nice work! I didn't know that it was optimized for mobile and will check out streampad now. If your platform can handle mobile optimization on all subdomains, then the only value of using m.website.com is just to market to the consumer that they should not be afraid of looking at the site on their phones. And to me it's not a question; hopefully soon all sites wil be run on device aware platforms so they can render different style sheets." - Tom
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Re: Building A Real Mobile Web - http://www.avc.com/a_vc...
"So far there's really only one site that I know of that has thought of the architecture to the point of making desktop and mobile work by offering different 'feels' or style sheets. That is Flickr, which redirects to m.flickr.com if you click on a shared link in an email, on twitter etc. Device intelligence is key, as is the architecture with the ability to logically shift users between optimized experiences. The best way to think about it is to first look at how people interact with the site - via tv remote, scroll buttons, or touchscreen, and then optimize the style to the screensize." - Tom
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Everyone like @shelisrael is looking at Zappos sales. Wrong number to pay attention to. Here's why:
Retail usually has profits of about 5%. Which means out of a billion in sales, Zappos only kept $50,000,000, out of which they had to pay rent, employees, benefits, etc. So, when you see that the purchase price was about $900 million in stock, that makes sense considering the smaller $50 million in real revenue number. - Robert Scoble
rofl - Joel Bennett
lol - Justin
I'm playing duck hunt while scoble types out why.... :) - Adam Jackson
Adam: you're funny and a bad shot! - Robert Scoble
I know the duck move very fast. - Adam Jackson
They got people to buy shoes online. Amazon wouldn't have figured that out alone. - Tom
Nice observation - Michele Neylon
Duck hunt :P There's something I haven't thought of in a hundred years. - Jason Hargrove
Anyway, the way to look at it is really this is a company with $50 million to $100 million in real revenues. That's why $900 million in stock makes sense. - Robert Scoble
is the retail margin you posted, robert, for brick and mortar retail? or online retail? - Tristan Walker
Tom: right, and Amazon gets a bunch of really great executives and a culture that NO ONE can match. - Robert Scoble
Tristan: both. - Robert Scoble
Uh Robert, aren't profits usually calculated AFTER deducting rent, salaries, benefits, etc.? Perhaps you mean operating profit, in which case 5% is low for retail industry. - Ritesh Lal
ya its not about revenue, its about annual net profit usually - sean percival
Yeah, this deal was calculated as a multiple of EBITDA or PBT, not top line revs. - Alan Chamberlain
Tristan: retail sucks unless you are Apple. - Robert Scoble
Sean and Ritesh are right. My number is NOT net profit. That's even lower. - Robert Scoble
Zappos has 1,500 employees and a huge warehouse, etc. - Robert Scoble
Robert: have you heard of bonobos? those guys are pulling impressive margins because theyre direct to consumer, and how about companies like threadless? - Tristan Walker
Tristan: I'd be shocked if they make that much profit percentage wise. They probably have a nice business, though. So does Zappos. - Robert Scoble
The ones who are scared by this are the IT vendors who supply Zappos. - Capn' One Eye - adrift
Does _web_ retail really have only 5% profits? - Joel Bennett
What about http://www.endless.com, Amazon's shoe site? - Andrew
i think threadless runs at 30% profit margins, will send the link to where i found that stat - Tristan Walker
metageoff: Zappos doesn't have that much IT. Joel: yes. Think about it. Anyone can open a web business. - Robert Scoble
Tristan: Threadless has a very unique business model though. - Ryan
Tristan: that's very high margins for retail, if true. - Robert Scoble
Robert: Can you point me somewhere (edit: grammar) detailing web and brick retail comparisons? - Jason Hargrove
"doesn't have that much IT" - therefore the IT vendors they do have are easy targets for "new efficiencies" - Capn' One Eye - adrift
depends on the business - You.
http://www.inc.com/ss... "The business grosses $30 million a year and enjoys profit margins of 30 percent." - Tristan Walker
I'd think Amazon can squeeze savings out of the distribution side too. - Ryan
@Ryan I agree but there are fantastic opportunities in online retail that generate impressive margins. that being said, i understand why zappos would be MUCH lower...amazon will certainly help bump up those numbers through various synergies - Tristan Walker
Amazons next buy will be Rackspace, Great culture and good company. ( I am just guessing based on common sense ) - Luis Borjas
Luis: don't scare me like that! :-) Jason: I can't, but helped manage retail stores for the first 10 years of my career. - Robert Scoble
Quick look at Yahoo Finance says Robert's numbers are in the ballpark. Amazon, Walmart, both have operating profit 4-5%, and net about 1 point lower. Best is Target with 6.7% operating profit. Costco is terrible at 2.53%. - Ritesh Lal
My take was that Amazon is buying a culture. http://www.onebyonemedia.com/amazon-... - Jim Turner
Robert, would love to chat with you about your experience there at some point. Interesting space - Tristan Walker
Robert: Retail doesn't suck for Apple because they are vertically integrated. It's just another 5% to add to their bottom line. - Ryan
Robert: fair enough. Hmm. A breakdown on web retailers would be awesome. I see a few links here already. Research task for the summer perhaps. - Jason Hargrove
I assume by "retail" you mean that they don't also manufacture what they sell. - You.
So will Amazon make all their employees go on Twitter? Imagine the horror although they could probably squeeze a bit more productivity out of them. - Mark Littlewood
Jim: That works. ~sometimes. Hmm. Maybe 'rarely' is a better word. It's tough to acquire a brand culture unless you're prepared for full adoption. One (decade+ old) example is Canada's Telus (http://telus.com) that acquired a small mobile carrier called Clearnet, paving the way for Telus to become a mobile powerhouse. It was all about the Clearnet brand. I remember the CEO quoted as... more... - Jason Hargrove
I wondering if Zappos excellent customer service will be adopted by Amazon, or will it lose some of its well known service. (Hopefully not) - Kim Landwehr
Mixing both companies will be a mistake, because they go with different strategies to achieve differentiation. Amazons focuses on efficiency and lowest cost, Zappos focuses on costumer happiness. I think they can both learn from one another and then keep serving their respective costumers with the strategies that have made them successful this far. - Jorge
Robert, congrats on being a VC, but your 5% estimate for an online retailer seem lower than anything I have heard before. EVER. - shelisrael1
shelisrael1: OK, so let's say it's 30%. Still is 300 million, not a billion like the number you used. I don't think Zappos is that high. If it were, they wouldn't have laid people off last fall. - Robert Scoble
agree with robert...impossibkle their margins are in the 30% range - Tristan Walker
I think we are seeing perhaps a mixing here that could work. With Zappos customer centric culture and Amazon's backend infrastructure. I think that was part of the reason for the layoff since it was mostly that par tof Zappos' company that felt the crunch. - Jim Turner
Good reminder, people often look at the big figure and forget where it all goes. - Andrew Nimick
Everyone seems to be high on Amazon - and if your order comes as expected they are good. But, if it doesn't, the customer service sucks.Example: Order with next day delivery (extra charge) but fulfillment slips from Thurs to Friday. No Sat. delivery, won't come till Monday. Call Amazon and they will redirect you to take it up with the carrier. Fail - PXLated
Talked to some manufacturers reps that handle Amazon. Example-1: Amazon orders by the container load and reorders when down to xx units. Rep gets a new container order and was amazed they'd sold the last that fast. They hadn't, they still had a half container in the warehouse and didn't even know it. - PXLated
Example-2: Customer orders a $2K product. Receives it with a broken part ($150 part). Instead of shipping part, Amazon ships a completely new unit. This happens three more times. And, the customer had to threaten to have the other (broken units) declared abandoned property to get Amazon to pick up the other four units. - PXLated
So, I fear for Zappos - PXLated
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Re: Don't Ignore The Least Common Denominator - http://www.avc.com/a_vc...
"Actually, the iPhone 3GS loads mobile websites much much much faster. Even though twitter's mobile website is behind the times, if they upgraded to an iPhone optimized site it may even load faster than the basic xhtml version of m.twitter.com. Apple told us that the 3GS processes javascript 3x faster and you can really see that on sites that are optimized for the iPhone. However, I'm thinking Fred that you were inspired to write this because SMS is the cheapest way to update sites while you're in Europe, no? This was what I found when I was in China back in May, I hadn't used Twitter's 40404 shortcode to send out a message in probably a year (but I still use it to get DMs). Flat Data plans are about as American as Apple Pie. :)" - Tom
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Re: Google My Location for iPhone 3.0 Only Available if You Logout! - mediabistro.com: MobileContentToday - http://www.mediabistro.com/mobilec...
"As I mentioned in the comments on tech crunch, any publisher can enable location on their mobile website, not just google! And, this can be used for location aware ad units. Email me tom [at] crispwireless [dot] com or tweet @toms for a demo." - Tom
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Re: teendrama :: hello my name is dennis. - http://dpstyles.tumblr.com/post...
"So the 'magic window' is cool to me because AR apps are specifically focusing on how to mash layers of data together - like try to get Zagat ratings out of Zagat and onto a dynamically located dot that hovers over the building you are facing. Of course there are problems with the concept of AR because it complicates views rather than simplifies them, which makes for clugy or slow UXs and in some cases makes the data alignment with the compass tough. Ok, so there are a lot of problems! But these experiments in complicating the view is to potentially eliminate steps in the way we navigate the world. You don't have to go out to the browser, you don't have to tab-toggle, or open another app that has a different part of the puzzle. Of course, virtual reality is trying to do even more, I just think AR is interesting at this time because it is lighter than full virtual reality, and people are not expecting thriller resolution if the app can show you a moonwalk. It's not a second life, it's..." - Tom
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China Mobile Has Created A Monster With Google Android - http://www.businessinsider.com/china-m...
Live from New York!! - Tom
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One of the funniest picture series I've ever seen. Seriously. Hope the link works for you. http://www.kaixin001.com/repaste...
doesn't work "该转帖已删除" - Tom
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Layar’s Augmented Reality Browser: Literally More Than Meets The Eye - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
I'm on hyves! - Tom
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Twitter Puts a Muzzle on Your Friends: Goodbye People I Never Knew (Updated) - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
This is exactly what friendfeed needs to start really competing with twitter. - Tom
Robert Scoble
I'm actively trying to use other URL shorteners now that bit.ly is in bed with Twitter (their servers are even in the same racks). That's too much control to give one company, especially one that is defacto owning my namespace. Am I too paranoid?
Smoke less potent pot Robert. ;) - Rolf Schewe
Rolf: I wish I was stoned. It might make me less paranoid. What happens when we give our lives over to Bit.ly and it changes all of our links from Facebook to Twitter's search? - Robert Scoble
dunno if you're paranoid, but you raise a good point. I could see bit.ly getting a lot bigger than just an url shortner. - phil baumann
People would revolt, that's what would happen - Jan Ole Peek
Eggs. Basket. All-in-one. I agree with your sentiment, Robert... I just switched from Tweetdeck to Twhirl so I hope to distance myself from bit.ly a little. - David Muir
Robert: I hear you. Competition is a big issue for me. The paranoid point was a freebee. Had to take it. - Rolf Schewe
Jan: that might keep them from doing it, but what if they put an interstitial advertisement? Or did something else, like block Google's spiders? - Robert Scoble
Maybe we'll end up with meta-shorteners to keep track of the links stored by all the shortening services. This would avoid the problem of "what if it goes offline", but doesn't solve the "Twitter/Bit.ly can see all my information" issue. But that part mostly comes with it being a publicly visible service. - Ho John Lee
These people are in business and aren't here to make friends with us. They've already proven that to me. - Robert Scoble
That's why I use random url shorteners, whichever one I can remember at the time ;) But let us know if you find a best alternative, I think there's so many it's hard to choose for the average user. - Jan Ole Peek
Look at the problems that Jesse Stay is having with Twitter. They change things on a whim without communicating them. They don't care about what people think of their moves. And we want to bet our entire linking system on this company? - Robert Scoble
@Robert So how big could a twitter-bit.ly entity become? - phil baumann
you should be able to set your default shortnener in your twitter profile - Allen Stern
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean there aren't people after you. - Harry Wolff
Allen: that would be very nice and a good engineering solution. I just don't see Twitter as being good at either of those attributes. ;-) - Robert Scoble
@Allen Agree, but what would stop twitter from giving you only 1 option? would enough people exit to make it too costly? - phil baumann
Robert: I personally like the tr.im name the best. Bit.ly's has the best features. Both are better than TinyURL. At least the move off of TinyURL by Twiiter was one in the right direction. - Rolf Schewe
My Twitter client supports 9 URL shorteners and I usually use urlborg. - Morton Fox
Allen: also, we all know the power of being the default. Most people won't switch it. Heck, look into how the suggested follower list is working. Most people use it and nothing else. - Robert Scoble
And it's not just Jesse having problems with Twitter. Several companies, and everyone with email filters got hosed by the recent changes on the New Follower Emails from twitter. No, Robert, you're not being paranoid, you're being smart. While I'm not sure that the "too much control to give one company" argument holds with the likes of Google and Microsoft around, it sure doesn't seem... more... - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Has Twitter stopped artificially shortening URLs that fit within the 140 yet? Someone needs to come up with a syndicated shortener you can run on your own domain. - LogEx
yes. unless you end up proven right, then no. - Tac Anderson
Logical Extremes: There are at least 2 that I know of. - coldbrew
I personally think URLs should not count towards the character count of Twitter or other services. They should be embedded someway in their message/posting. URL shorteners have always seemed like unnecessary middlemen. - Rolf Schewe
I think Twitter *should* own it's own URL shortener. That way we know that, as long as Twitter exists, all our short URLs will too. - Pat Hawks
I use icanhaz.com whenever I post a link, just because it's really silly. - Alan Chamberlain
While that may be nice Rolf, the only message in Twitter is the tweet. There is no metadata, and therefore there is not "character that doesn't count" - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
guruvan: Thus an inherent flaw. - Rolf Schewe
LE: In my experience they have stopped the autoshortening of some. It seems that they will still autoshorten in some cases, but I haven't determined exactly which. I have seen tweets that were mostly URL. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob, I tried to do some testing too, but the results were inconsistent. I wonder if they are sensitive to certain domains, among other things. But it's annoying... if it fits, don't mess with it. I want to manage my message length myself, avoid shorteners whenever possible, and choose my own when needed. - LogEx
Metadata is huge. Imagine each post having a URL embedded. Then the service like FriendFeed or Twitter resolving the link and pulling metadata. Then they could rebuild a nice comprehensive link title under the post with context such as Title, Author, Location, tags, etc. - Rolf Schewe
yes seems there are enough monopolies already, really don't need one more ... but certainly it is an interesting idea to wrap the mind around to see how a community run system like Twitter could be improved to be truly community based. I also understand that twitter is in business whereby the objective of any business is eventual profit. - Ray Marr aka Knatchwa
Use a Twitter client that gives you a choice of URL shorteners -simple. Why the fuss? IMHO bit.ly has been the most reliable and simple system to use so far, so I'm happy enough. Some people are only happy when they have something to complain about, of course... ;-) - Bob Walder from BuddyFeed
LE: Yep, that's my experience as well. Didn't seem to have much rhyme or reason to it. and Rolf: In one way it's an inherent flaw, but the service was designed specifically to be completely compatible with SMS...SMS inherently passes no (user usable) metadata. But that's not inherently flawed is it? - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
You're too paranoid. - Chieze Okoye
Maybe. I've come to love bit.ly. Good alternatives? - Hutch Carpenter
Tr.im seems to be a good alternative, but b/c I don't use Twitter, I have no use. - coldbrew
robert/phil - what i am suggesting is that by default it uses bitly (since they are in bed together) - but you can go into your profile and set it to whatever shortener you like - say they have a list of 20 or something... - Allen Stern
Coldbrew: The one use is to be able to track CTR on the links you post. Unless you're posting links to sites you already get stats from, this can be valuable in measuring personal reach. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Hutch: adjix is a good alternative. Doesn't experience the outages like the one seen with tr.im over the past day. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
It seems silly to be concerned about bedding with a url shortener on a service that is almost entirely likely to be dominated by 3rd party applications to be effective. - Patrick Boegel
To quote Robert himself when he is responding to others outrageous claims, "what are you talking about!?" But seriously if you search using Google and you're signed in isn't that surrendering far more personal information about you? And why wouldn't you want your shared links to be evergreen? I think bit.ly should cache results too. - Gregg Scott
I use BurnURL because the data that comes from the sharebar, including Mood Mining, will be fed back into ReadBurner, who I advise for. I advise them because I loved the ReadBurner service and when they relaunch it should be very cool. - Louis Gray
I gave up on all shorteners like 6 months ago, cause well - I didn't like any of them!! And have faithfully used tweetburner/twurl bookmarklet - it is a secret favorite, but don't tell a bunch of people because I don't want their servers to get slow on me!!! - T.S. Elliott
cli.gs! They power the WP to Twitter plugin I've started to use (bye bye Twitter Tools). - Shawn Farner
You're not being too paranoid. I recently noticed that Ars Technica has deployed their own shortener at http://arst.ch. - Michael R. Bernstein
try http://shortn.me we haven't automated it yet, but it offers the ability to have multiple links to intelligently redirect to mobile web for users who hit links from their phones. We have the flickr automation ready to launch as a demo. - Tom
Huh? what's wrong with being in bed with Twitter? I love bitly, use it constantly as it gives me feedback on how many clicked and keeps a record for me and doesn't get in my way, stays on the side. - Prokofy Neva
I think it makes sense to like variety of providers in a landscape, to be wary of too much control by one company etc. But why are people so freaked at twitter+bit.ly but arent freaked over google's, apple's or amazon's own vertical control? Twitter seems small potatoes in comparison - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I really like cli.gs - ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
I use the is.gd shortener in twhirl. I dont care which one they use. I started getting ff in email, it is good I use gmail.. - David Gross from email
tweetdeck gives users a choice, if you think it important I will stop using the default (bit.ly) - jcunwired
I've been using tr.im and been happy with it. Other suggestions? - Ted Bradford II
How about www.notlong.com ? - Martin Lindeskog
Or make your own. It's a relatively easy script... :) - Joe Manna
I usually use http://twitclicks.com I can track clicked links geographically, by browser, if the clicks came from Twitter or some other source, plus it tells me the username(s) of the Twitterers who clicked on the links. - Sharon McPherson
resources - Kol's room http://friendfeed.com/url-sho... , list of shorteners http://kl.am/short , http://friendfeed.com/social-... , I personally look for shorteners that allow for custom/edit addresses ///////// and FF, it'd be fine to have an option of ff.im/user , and also, if i type <term> , a box with search of where that term was discussed/posted about last, as an option :] - Petr Buben
I like ow.ly for posts I don't care get indexed by Google, but here's a breakdown of options. http://foomandoonian.blogspot.com/2008... - Janet Fouts
Not paranoid. Now ME, I'm caesium standard Paranoid!!! - pazzer1
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RT @rww Firefox Could Be the Real Facebook Challenger http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive... (me, I hope not!!)
It's striking how far Firefox has come - remember that it was originally the lighter, simpler alternative to the more fully-featured Mozilla suite, and as a result became wildly more popular. I feel strongly that the browser should be invisible; it's a facilitator for the web. As soon as you start adding other functionality, for example identity, you begin placing more and more limits... more... - Ben Werdmuller from FriendFeed MT Plugin
This is very interesting, and I've no doubt that the distinction between "browser" and social platform will disintegrate eventually. But the problem is that the v1 of a paradigm shifting product like this is likely to be far from perfect, and quite unsettling to users, who always reject change at the outset. If Firefox pushed something like this through its normal upgrade channel as a... more... - Tony Zito from FriendFeed MT Plugin
Marshall, How come we see the promise of browsers on the desktop as clear as capitalism over communism, but for the past year the future of mobile is apps, apps, apps and specifically not the browser? Articles like yours and the link below about how gaming consoles like xbox and playstation might start to appear in-browser show an almost sure win for browsers, and once the iPhone 3.0... more... - Tom from FriendFeed MT Plugin
As a chrome convert, I can support the need for a viable plugin structure over here. But that would mostly revolve around greasemonkey and identity integration. As with the "market" for firefox addons, having Javascript as a dev basis opens up a huge opportunity to developers, if there is a proper way to have a user opt in. XUL is just not feasible for the average jQuery or widget... more... - Björn Klose from FriendFeed MT Plugin
Hmmm.... it is odd that flock is so vilified. I have a unique perspective that I am relatively new to the trenches of social media, as I used to be a property level manager for hotels. I think I installed Flock in November? This reminds me of the situation with what I think was likely the best social media site EVER... tribe.net. It was great, basically broke and had so much... more... - Michael Hraba from FriendFeed MT Plugin
Fantastic. That means that we can't wait for the applications to change the web. That means that without the efforts of the browsers, they won't be real social web. And, if you ask me, I'm so glad the Mozilla Foundation is the one building all this! And, as for Flock, i've been using it some times ago, and didn't convince me at all. - Zackatoustra from FriendFeed MT Plugin
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Comment on: Firefox Could Be the Real Facebook Challenger - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Marshall, How come we see the promise of browsers on the desktop as clear as capitalism over communism, but for the past year the future of mobile is apps, apps, apps and specifically not the browser? Articles like yours and the link below about how gaming consoles like xbox and playstation might start to appear in-browser show an almost sure win for browsers, and once the iPhone 3.0 drops with better HTML 5 support even location will work; it already does for the pre and android. any thoughts? http://www.gamesindustry.biz/article... - Tom from FriendFeed MT Plugin
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