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Am reinstalling iTunes today. Noticed this in the license:

"Without limiting the foregoing, under no circumstances shall 3Com be held liable for any delay or failure in performance resulting directly or indirectly from acts of nature, forces, or causes beyond its reasonable control, including, without limitation, Internet failures, computer equipment failures, telecommunication equipment failures, other equipment failures, electrical power failures, strikes, labor disputes, riots, insurrections, civil disturbances, shortages of labor or materials, fires, floods, storms, explosions, acts of God, war, governmental actions, orders of domestic or foreign courts or tribunals, non-performance of third parties, or loss of or fluctuations in heat, light, or air conditioning." - TobiasVerhoog.com

I'm wondering what kind of "act of God" could stop my iTunes from working and do acts of Allah or Buddha count? - TobiasVerhoog.com

Kol Tregaskes to Kol's feed, Google Reader, All Things Google, Appetite, TheNextWeb Forum

What is your Google Reader URL? Mine is http://www.google.com/reader... #greader

August 9 - Comment - Like - Share

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I share all sorts. :-) Lots of photos, photography and tech stuff though. Feel free to sub to me if you like. :-) BTW, you can see who is following you here: http://www.google.com/reader... #whatsyoururl - Kol Tregaskes

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http://www.google.com/reader... - Michael Hocter

Thanks, Michael. - Kol Tregaskes

http://www.google.com/reader... :-) - Müjdat Korkmaz

More often I end up sharing directly through FF even if I find it on GReader, but sometimes I share there. http://www.google.com/reader... - Tony, Paradox of FF

http://www.google.com/reader... Just about internet! - ★ Soner Gönül

http://www.google.com/reader... I'm glad you asked this right now. I just realized that several people are following me and I didn't even know it. I hope it hasn't been this way for long! - Michael Fidler

Michael, it's not been clear until very recently, you can see notifications here: http://www.google.com/reader... - Kol Tregaskes

Love yr posts :-))))) - Johni Fisher

http://www.google.com/reader... - Lode Nachtergaele

mine is http://www.google.com/reader... ;) - alebaffa from twhirl

http://www.google.com/reader... - OnuRC

thanks for starting this thread - here's mine http://www.google.com/reader... (mostly social media stuff, a little food, and occasional randomness) - Chris Rogers

http://www.google.com/reader... - James Slater

Kol, thanks! I wish it would tell me when they started following, I'll have to keep a better eye on it now. - Michael Fidler

http://www.google.com/reader... - Kevin Mohr

http://www.google.com/reader... - LouCypher

http://www.google.com/reader... - zsafwan 

http://www.google.com/reader... - Tony C

Mine is http://www.google.com/reader... - hope you enjoy! - outofmyarse

Just noticed that Reader now allows grouping of people you follow! Wondering: is Reader going to become a competitor (instead of complement) to FriendFeed? - Chris Rogers

http://www.google.com/reader... - Steve Lowe

http://www.google.com/reader... - Always looking for more ppl to share links! - Liza

http://www.google.com/reader... - M F

Ah so that's your name, M F! ;-) I'm wanting to live in that area too, nice around there? - Kol Tregaskes

http://www.google.com/reader... - Simon Tracey

Yes it's alright I moved here two years ago, I was in West London before that - M F

GREAT FEED - I am finding so many great ppl to follow - this is great. - Liza

M F, I like to move to just over the other side of the stream from you. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

And your pics are great! I am going to be stuck in greader for a while! - Liza

http://www.google.com/reader... - phil baumann

Well wave your hand Kol when you get here - M F

http://www.google.com/reader... - Jason Wehmhoener

http://www.google.com/reader... - But I only really use google reader as a simple RSS reader. Follow people on FriendFeed. - Anton Tanderup

http://www.google.com/reader... - Andy Sternberg from fftogo

Hehe, M F. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

mine is http://www.google.com/reader... - Kim Landwehr

Thanks for your latest bookmark there, Kim. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

http://www.google.com/reader... - mridul

feedly.com :) - Zach Landes

https://www.google.com/reader... - Bryan R. Adams

http://www.google.com/reader... - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

http://www.google.com/reader... #greader #whatsyoururl - Ron Bailey

http://www.google.com/reader... - Parvez Halim

http://www.google.com/reader... but everything I share in reader comes on to FriendFeed. - Aram Zucker-Scharff from twhirl

http://www.google.com/reader... - Daltonsbriefs

http://www.google.com/reader... - the stuff I share there is also on FriendFeed. - Hanna Wiszniewska

http://www.google.com/reader... mine are mostly science items - Sally Church

Mine is http://www.google.com/reader... - Mostly Tech. - Svartling

http://www.google.com/reader... - Nick Humphries

http://www.google.com/reader... - Ozgur Uckan

http://www.google.com/reader... - mixed up content in Portuguese (mainly), English and Spanish. - Marcos

Liza, oooh I love the post on generating Mandelbrot fractals in Excel! - Sally Church

http://google.com/reader... - Anton

http://www.google.com/reader... - Shawn Farner from twhirl

http://www.google.com/reader... - Kevin Whalen

@rogersdc / Chris, Google Reader is obviously been trying to become more social, but I'd really like to see FF come out with a bookmarklet that makes sub'ing RSS feeds to FF easier/faster. Right now it's a manual process involving either a new Group/Room or Imaginary Friend. Should be 2 clicks tops.. Also see: http://friendfeed.com/alexsch... - Alex Schleber

http://www.google.com/reader... - Andrew Leahey

http://www.google.com/reader... - Eric Geller

http://www.google.com/reader... - Zachary TG

http://www.google.com/reader... - Vince DeGeorge

http://www.google.com/reader... - Lin Yong from NoiseRiver

http://www.google.com/reader... - Baard @ Pixum

http://www.google.com/reader... - Jason A. Nunnelley

http://www.google.com/reader... - Louis Gray

http://www.google.com/reader... - Travis B. Hartwell

http://www.google.com/profile... - James (!?)

http://www.google.com/reader... - Warren Butler

http://www.google.com/reader... - Brandon Ball

http://www.google.com/reader... - "Jazzperous" Isaksson

http://www.google.com/reader... - Joe Dawson

http://www.google.com/reader... - guilherme

Thanks everyone! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

http://www.google.com/reader... - dkb

http://www.google.com/reader... - Adi

http://www.google.com/reader... - Mathew A. Koeneker

http://www.google.com/reader... - Alex Scrivener

Here is mine : http://www.google.fr/reader.... I share (mainly on French sites and blogs) about libraries, literature and arts, human and social sciences, photography :-) - Nadine Pestourie

http://www.google.com/reader... Google and other tech stuff, as well as other random things of interest. - Californian

http://www.google.com/reader... - Chris Luckhardt

http://www.google.com/reader... - Peter Ghosh

Thank you. - Kol Tregaskes

http://www.google.com/profile... - Kim

http://www.google.com/profile... http://www.google.com/reader... - Kamilah Gill

http://www.google.com/reader... - Robin Barooah

Keep 'em coming, I'll add you all later today. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

http://www.google.com/reader... - Patrik Johansson from Android

http://www.google.com/reader... - Dobromir Hadzhiev

http://www.google.com/reader... - Arthur Guy

http://www.google.com/reader... - Nathan Rein

http://www.google.com/reader... Politics, photography, humor, news, tech, entertainment - amygeek

Thanks for starting this conversation Kol! - amygeek

http://www.google.com/reader... - Shevonne

http://www.google.com/reader... - Dean "Karnatos" Michaud

http://www.google.com/reader... - Eric Johnson

No worries, Amy. :-) Thank you all! - Kol Tregaskes

http://www.google.com/reader... - Andrew Roche

LOL here we go again :o) http://www.google.com/reader... I share a lot of blogs and funny stuff that I read, it's neat how I can share and it gets posted all over by friendfeed. - David Gross

http://www.google.com/reader... - Joe Bonner

http://www.google.com/reader... - Vlad Bobleanta

http://www.google.com/reader... - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

http://www.google.com/reader... - Ivan Pavlov

Thank you. - Kol Tregaskes

Don't know that I have one, as I eschew most things Google.... - Mike Shields

Not sure if I've already shared it, but my URL is http://www.google.com/reader.... - Tyson Key

http://www.google.com/reader... - Ethan

Thank you guys. - Kol Tregaskes

your welcome kol - Tony C from IM

:-) - Kol Tregaskes

I think that I over-loaded my poor G-Reader by adding all of you. ;-) - Mathew A. Koeneker

Here is my feed: http://l.clipotech.com/shared - I will try to add all of you on this list :) - Svartling

Don't forget to add all out new contacts in to groups. Otherwise we cant comment on each others shared items. - Svartling

http://www.google.com/reader... - Almost exclusively tech, including humor/cartoons and productivity. - Mahendra (SkepticGeek)

http://www.google.com/reader... - I share items about productivity, gaming, movies, and misc. stuff from the Google "cool" via Recommendations feed. Thanks Kol for starting this thread because I've been trying to cut down on the number of feeds I subscribe to and instead just follow interesting people. - Dusty Edenfield

Svartling: good point about adding people to groups. I noticed I couldn't comment on items that were shared by some users. - Dusty Edenfield

Thanks everyone. - Kol Tregaskes

http://www.google.com/reader... - (jeff)isageek

http://www.google.com/reader... - Roberto Bonini

http://www.google.com/reader... - ★Kristy

I've (we) written a lot of more good tips on how to use Google Reader in Google Reader comments. It's too bad we don't have permalinks in Greader so we can share our notes and comments. Otherwise I could have posted a link here. Here are some on friendfeed: http://friendfeed.com/svartli... - Svartling

http://www.google.com/reader... - David Peacock

here's mine! Love some of the new features... http://www.google.com/reader... - tomit

http://www.google.com/reader... - Ken Sheppardson

I don't think I added mine yet: http://www.google.com/reader... - LogEx

Thank you. - Kol Tregaskes

http://www.google.com/reader... - DGentry

Almost missed this one! http://www.google.com/reader... - Patrik Arwengrim

http://www.google.com/reader... - Frode Stenstrøm

http://www.google.com/reader... - Aaron Krug

http://www.google.com/reader... - Tristan Seligmann

http://www.google.com/reader... - Russell G

http://www.google.com/reader... - Dani Radu

http://www.google.com/reader... - Kenton

http://www.google.com/reader... - Remo

I guess I best start sharing stuff, then. :D - http://www.google.com/reader... - Bette Cooper

http://www.google.com/reader... - I guess I'm a bit late to the party, but here's mine. I share mainly technology, photography, design... and other random stuff. - Ryan - @magicofpi

Thank you all. - Kol Tregaskes

Yes! The list I was looking for! I'll get my info on here as soon as I get on my netbook - Kamilah Gill from email

http://www.google.com/reader... - George Hall (Australia)

http://www.google.com/reader... - Gtp19

http://www.google.com/reader... - ha3rvey (Ho)^3

http://www.google.com/reader... - Kamilah Gill

http://www.google.com/reader... - Bluesun 2600

http://www.google.com/reader... - CAJ, somewhere else

http://www.google.com/reader... - Martha

Thanks for posting this Kol. Never paid any attention to my shared items folder before but just did! - Martha

http://www.google.com/reader... - Eric Logan

The conversation is really blowing up (in a good way) on Reader. The most important reminder currently is to set up groups and allow commenting. That is NOT on by default! - Vince DeGeorge

http://www.google.com/reader... - Tapio Kulmala

Vince, exactly! - Kol Tregaskes

http://www.google.com/reader... - Nik

mine is http://www.google.com/reader... - Daryl Hunt on FF

Not sure how I missed this thread. I share lots of tech news, some programming stuff and a little more at http://www.google.com/reader... - Rob Diana

There is also a group that collected a bunch of reader shares at http://friendfeed.com/share-y... - Rob Diana

http://www.google.com/reader... - Nick B.

http://www.google.com/reader... - Mike Nencetti

http://www.google.com/reader... - Slappy Line

http://www.google.com/reader... - Sean Brady

http://www.google.com/reader... - Spidra Webster

http://www.google.com/reader... - Or just go to: Sharing settings on your google reader shared items and search for: Avi Joseph - Avi Joseph

http://www.google.com/reader... - Pete Delucchi

Thank you all. I think I have subscribed you all now (except those feed in languages I don't understand) Here is mine again: http://www.google.com/reader... - Svartling

http://www.google.com/reader... - Nathalie, Dreamer of FF

I've started to follow a few of the people here but there's quite a few, so will take me a while :) - My currently fairly bare feed is: http://www.google.com/reader... - Roy Herrod

http://www.google.com/reader... - Steven Perez

http://www.google.com/reader... - edythe

http://www.google.com/reader... - http://friendfeed.com/kevinar... - Kevin Arth

http://www.google.com/reader... - topics include a bit of everything, but there's a fair about of Android-related stuff in there - Chuck Falzone

http://www.google.com/reader... - Damond Nollan

http://www.google.com/reader... - Californian

http://www.google.com/reader... - Mike Reynolds

http://www.google.com/reader... - AJ Kohn

http://www.google.com/reader... - MLx

http://www.google.com/reader... - German - mostly politics and crude funny things. Maybe some new technology - JoeD

http://www.google.com/reader... - Jesse Stay

http://www.google.com/reader... - Grant Bierman

http://www.google.com/reader... - Neal Jansons

Thank everyone. - Kol Tregaskes

There are a few entries here you might like to read to help you. This one: http://ff.im/6CkQj explains about adding people to groups to allow them to comment and why some don't stay in groups. In this one: http://ff.im/6F9pQ I suggest a way to track a large number of shared items using PostRank. This: http://ff.im/6Ci0P and this: http://ff.im/6AM35 has a few tips on using GReader as a lifestreaming service. And this: http://ff.im/6EMT1 gives a few examples of GReader bundles. - Kol Tregaskes

http://www.google.com/reader... I mostly share ART with a little bit this and that thrown in for good measure. - Kimber Scott

http://www.google.com/reader... - michael sean wright

http://www.google.com/reader... - Bryce Roney

http://www.google.com/reader... - Jon, the Chilled Beartato

Ryo: Same here :) "completely moved to Google Reader / Twitter / Posterous" All my followers, please subscribe to me on Google Reader: http://www.google.com/reader... or my lifestream: http://l.clipotech.com/lifestr... - Svartling

http://www.google.com/reader... - Alexander Kruel

http://www.google.com/reader... - Tristan Hambling

http://www.google.com/reader... share various science research and news - Colby from iPod

http://www.google.com/reader... - George Moga

http://www.google.com/reader... -- nothing shared yet; still learning several social networks & services, so it might take me a while... - Dennis Jernberg

http://www.google.com/reader... - Adrian Scicluna

http://www.google.com/reader... - Mark O'Neill

Those of you above whom I already follow on FF/Twitter/etc., I've subscribed to your feeds. As for the rest of you: if you follow me on GReader, I'll follow you back. - Dennis Jernberg

I'm sharing some pages now, including a few of my past blog entries. - Dennis Jernberg

http://www.google.com/reader... - Imabug

easier to just follow and edit groups from search url>http://www.google.com/reader... - Ru Viljoen

http://www.google.com/reader... - John Ladd

http://www.google.com/reader... - Marko Saric

http://www.google.com/reader... - Pete Gilbert

Because I have issues with data duplication, I have merged this list with the google reader shares room feeds. You can view the Google spreadsheet at http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc... - Rob Diana

There are a bunch of shared feeds that I could not resolve the Google username for because they did not have a named profile set up. - Rob Diana

tristanhambling, your link didn't work. :-( - Kol Tregaskes

Thank you very much, Rob! - Kol Tregaskes

http://www.google.com/reader... Right now I'm testing it in comparison to Netvibes. It's yet to be seen if I end up making the switch. - Brad Williamson

http://www.google.com/reader... - ronin

http://www.google.com/reader... - Muge Cerman

https://www.google.com/reader... - Mo Hall

http://www.google.com/reader... - Tal Shafik

http://www.google.com/reader... Mainly photography related things. - Sven

It would be really handy to have all these shared feeds as an opml file. Has anyone added everyone? Care to export an opml of the shared feeds? - Paul Jacobson

My shared stream is at http://www.google.com/reader... - Paul Jacobson

Paul, can do that but it will be out of date the moment I post it as I'm getting more new users all the time. - Kol Tregaskes

http://www.google.com/reader... - Damond Nollan

Maybe someone could hook up something via Yahoo Pipes (or whatever) to automatically generate the OPML? - Tristan Seligmann

http://www.google.com/reader... - Yant

Damond, I'm getting that deja vu feeling. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Whoa, hey, I'm late to this. I'm here: http://www.google.com/reader... :-) - Jordan Hofker

I'm http://www.google.com/reader... Not really comfortable with the custom URL though since it can only be your gmail username. Makes it really easy for spamspiders I think. - TobiasVerhoog.com

Tobias, possibly but not had any problems myself though Gmail has the best spam filters around so I probably not noticed. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

http://www.google.com/reader... Please dont tell me I have to add everyone manually like I did with Facebook yesterday?? *sigh* - Julia Ault

http://www.google.fr/reader... - Olivier Castets

http://www.google.com/reader... - Chris Hofmann

http://www.google.com/reader... link to my bundle with all my feeds that i have in friendfeed too - Chris Hofmann

http://www.google.com/reader... mostly webdev, photography news, music, world news which i get interested. plus half of them may be article in Japanese. sorry. :-p - browneyes

http://www.google.com/reader... - Edmund Tay

http://www.google.com/reader... - Jez Arnold

Thanks all! - Kol Tregaskes

:-) - Kol Tregaskes

spread those tentacles thats what i say (I'm generally sharing comics, animation, and interesting weirdeness) : http://www.google.com/reader... - Paul Greer

Exactly, Paul. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

http://www.google.com/reader... - Gerald Hildebrandt

There are a few people that have not added me to a group and so I cannot reply to some of your comments. :-( - Kol Tregaskes

http://www.google.com/reader... - flaimo

http://www.google.com/reader... - Charles Owens

http://www.google.com/reader... - Johnny

http://www.google.com/reader... - Kenley Neufeld

http://www.google.com/reader... - OK I'm in. Late as always. Will post my thoughts, feedback and pleading requests for help over in Google Reader so please follow me over there. Eat your own dog food and all that. - Andy C

MF/Kol = I live in Kingston on Thames. It's OK apart from the traffic (continually gridlocked) and the shops (girls just lurve them). Handy for getting into London both airports and out to the Thames Valley for work type things. Richmond Park and the river in walking distance is great too. - Andy C

phew.. - Paul Greer

Andy, Richmond Park and the others around there are the appeal really. Good place to go photographing and cycling while being very close to London I think. - Kol Tregaskes

Teddington (across the river from Kingston Upon Thames, is where I think I'd like to live. Just 'cos it's cheaper than everywhere else around it. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

https://www.google.com/reader... - Customized with numbers - ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift

@Kol many years ago, we made the mistake of asking an estate agent in Surbiton whether it was any cheaper than Kingston. She replied 'No - of course not. We are on the fast line to Waterloo' and looked at us as if we were dog excrement. - Andy C

I've checked rental prices in the area several times over the last 2 years and Teddington is definitely cheaper. I'm not buying, no way I can afford that. ;-) All a pip-dream anyway, need a steady job and I've not had that for a while. :-( - Kol Tregaskes

http://www.google.com/reader... Enjoy! - Arvin Dang

:-) - Kol Tregaskes

http://www.google.com.au/reader... - Threepwood

http://www.google.com/reader... - jcunwired

Mine; http://www.google.com/reader... - S.D.Allen

Thanks guys. - Kol Tregaskes

http://www.google.com/reader... - masstrovato

http://www.google.com/reader... - Chris Myles

http://www.google.com/reader... GReader, Twitter, and Delicious (plus my own sites) are my primary hubs now. Y'all please join me on GReader. - Chris Baskind

http://www.google.com/reader... late as always - Raymundo Roxas

Thank you. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

http://www.google.com/reader... - barbarars

Trying Google Reader.. Share your friendfeed feed WITHIN Reader. (see http://ff.im/6WRIk) - Chris Myles

http://www.google.com/reader... - Claude LaFrenière aka climenole :) - Claude LaFrenière

anyone use google reader on windows mobile professional? I cant seem to get it to work and when I try to go to the mobile site it takes me to the regular site. - David Gross

Nope, sorry can't help you there, David. - Kol Tregaskes

http://www.google.com/reader... - Christopher A Carr

http://www.google.com/reader... - Russ jackson - Russ Jackson

Sweet! http://www.google.com/reader... - Jesse Baer

http://www.google.com/reader... please add! - Brendon Wadey

Jesse, I saw your share of this FriendFeed thread on Google Reader! - John E. Bredehoft

David, I use mobile Google Reader on an older phone with Windows mobile. My bookmark begins with google.com/reader/m/view - John E. Bredehoft

Here's mine...http://www.google.com/reader... - Oscar Antonio Moralí

Aloha! http://www.google.com/reader... - Ryan

check it out...http://www.google.com/reader... - Cos

Will share tech, science and skepticism, and education news stories: http://www.google.com/reader... - TC

in case anyone missed it, mine is http://www.google.com/reader... - David Gross

http://www.google.com/reader... - Irma Vermaat

more cool - Brent - Loving Life

http://www.google.com/reader... - Anthony Citrano

http://www.google.com/reader... - James Ferguson

http://www.google.com/reader... - Otto

I share interesting articles about Internet music, social media, open content and copyright issues: http://www.google.com/reader... - David Holmes

TobiasVerhoog.com

Thomas Friedman - The Copenhagen That Matters - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/2009...

December 23 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

"As I listened to Denmark’s minister of economic and business affairs describe how her country used higher energy taxes to stimulate innovation in green power and then recycled the tax revenues back to Danish industry and consumers to make it easier for them to make and buy the new clean technologies, it all sounded so, well, intelligent. It sounded as if the Danes looked at themselves after the 1973 Arab oil embargo, found that they were totally dependent on Middle East oil and put in place a long-term strategy to make Denmark energy-secure and start a new industry at the same time." - TobiasVerhoog.com from Bookmarklet

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Nokia N900 Linux smartphone • Register Hardware - http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009...

December 22 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

"Now, with the N900, Nokia is trying something new, with a brand new OS in Maemo 5 – a slimmed down version of Debian Linux – plus a host of top-end features, including a sizeable 3.5in touch screen, slide-out Qwerty keyboard, 5Mp camera with Carl Zeiss optics, Wi-Fi, A-GPS, quad-band and much more besides." - TobiasVerhoog.com from Bookmarklet

This looks very good, but I had the same feeling with the N97 when it was anounced. In the end it all comes down with the usability of the OS. I hear good things about Maemo though. - TobiasVerhoog.com

Andrew Eglinton

Will Cunchpad deliver the apple user experience that its design seeks to imitate? Love the idea of a $200 tablet though. http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...

July 11 - Comment - Like - Share

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You just answered your own question with a couple of nos. Nobody can deliver equivalent level of immersive interaction without a sizable investment. Which Arrington hasn't got. And you can just about forget the idea of a $200 tablet, it won't be happening. This was a gross miscalculation of TC team once upon a time based on cost of components in somewhat midsized batches of the product... more... - ianf ⌘

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How do you know Arrington doesn't have the investment money? He frequents the VC crowd. Are you suggesting that the whole venture was created on a whim without any prior market research? Surely this is not a 'vanity device'? - Andrew Eglinton

Will it only run a browser? Would be nice to run maybe Adobe AIR apps or something. Like tweetdeck. - TobiasVerhoog.com

That's exactly what I am saying, a badly researched vanity project against better judgement. It's all well and dandy if TC manages to come out with an initial, still-imperfect batch of these, and then sees the goodwill towards the product crumble. What Arrington hasn't really thought through is that in order to compete in the commodities market (as any $200 web-appliance device... more... - ianf ⌘

I think the initial spec spoke of somewhat modified FireFox browser only, with some plugins and linked Skype, etc. No OS would be needed. Then they must've realized that FireFox, even a very stable release, is a glutton for memory, and a constant future vector for user complaints why it can not be extended by this and that favorite plugin, and must have reconsidered its use. I don't... more... - ianf ⌘

ianf - These are all solid arguments you make here. Another point that comes to mind is to do with form factor. Do we really need a large touch screen device when the tech world has been perfecting portability for the past 60+ years? The iPhone (and its competition) is shaping a large swathe of today's digital landscape, so while it may still seem desirable in 2009 to provide more screen real estate, it's soon likely to become a non-argument. - Andrew Eglinton

Actually, CrunchPad's "oversized" form factor is of little consequence to its portability, as the device has apparently been designed for use within easy reach of a recharging socket. Consequently, I do not expect any great battery life from it, perhaps 2hrs on full charge (that's what one could depend on from Compaq, then HP TC1000/TC1100 tablet with similar form factor). If it turns... more... - ianf ⌘

[December 2nd, 2009] For the record: here's the official "Demise of the CrunchPad" by Arrington himself http://www.techcrunch.com/2009... plus a lame attempt at explaining away the colossal non-future of this ill-conceived project: http://www.crunchgear.com/2009... Ah, well, it was entertaining to read about while it lasted. - ianf ⌘

TobiasVerhoog.com

If Doritos Was Serious About Advertising - http://digg.com/comedy...

November 29 from Digg - Comment - Like - Share

"Funny, but most of them are not product placement, but sponsoring. I think only the ginsu knife and the snuggie are product placement." - TobiasVerhoog.com

Paul Buchheit

Ask Reddit: What incorrect things did you believe for way longer than you should have? - http://www.reddit.com/r...

November 25 from Reddit - Comment - Like - Share

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crazy at what people are admitting to, and how many of them that there are - Chris Heath

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a presumptive high smart factor in other ppl, :( - chaz2b

wow.... - Jan Ole Peek

Example: "I always thought "prima donna" meant "pre-Madonna", like a reference of time.." :) - Louis Gray

Louis--that's classic. - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)

Louis, you are like a virgin! ;-) - Tim Tyler

Tim, I think it is rather that Louis doesn't live in the material world. - Jim in Real Time

One must read the thread to note I was quoting, not that it was my response. - Louis Gray

Haha, poor Louis - TobiasVerhoog.com

Louis, i like the response further down that same thread that said they thought when their mom said someone was a premadonna that meant she (the mom) thought that the person would grow up to be like Madonna - Chris Heath

I believed there was no color prior to 1952, until I was 12, and started wondering how Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel, if he didn't know what colors he was using. - Jimminy Fuller

I used to believe that no matter how much two people might disagree on a particular issue, with enough time and effort they could always work back to fundamental principles they could agree on, then work forward logically and resolve the disagreement. - Ken Sheppardson

good one ken - Chris Heath

That thread is frightening. - SuezanneC Baskerville

Amazing lols: "Actual conversation with my roommate, reading the wikipedia page on Lady Gaga: Him: "How does her line feel about her doing this?" Me: "Her line? Like her family? I think they don't care, and even if they did, there's not much they could do about it." Him: "Don't they worry she's ruining their reputation? I thought being in the peerage carried extra responsibilities." Me:... more... - Joff

Kol Tregaskes to Kol's feed, Question of the Day, entertainment, Music, Movie Reviews, friendfeed Gamers, electronical games

What will happen to the pre-owned market when digital downloads become the norm? Should we be able to sell our digital downloads like we can we our old wares?

November 14 - Comment - Like - Share

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This goes for games, music, movies, etc. - Kol Tregaskes

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Indeed. It will be missed. - Amber, Random Time Lord

People are still buying landline phones. This will be a gradual process - Johnny Worthington from iPhone

Johnny, of course. Landlines are a long way off from dying off. I would say physical boxed games/music/movies have a slightly shorter life. - Kol Tregaskes

The pre-owned market will be around beyond our life times. Why? Because you have a ton of people who will want to own those games from our time and before. You still have people buying Atari 2600 games. It may not be huge for Gamestop, but personally I don't care what happens to Gamestop because as a company they suck. And I can say that because I used to work for them. - Mathew™ one of a kind

The same way digital downloads are killing the DVD Market? My point is not everyone lives on the bleeding edge and not all moms can afford $90 for a new game. It has a long tail filled with young kids and casual gamers - Johnny Worthington from iPhone

And people like me still want to buy physical media. I personally would rather buy a game, dvd, cd, etc and then put it on whatever device and have the physical copy on the shelf. - Mathew™ one of a kind

Johnny, agree but that wasn't the question. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Kol - No, we shouldn't be allowed to sell our digital downloads, as there would be no real way to ensure we had removed all traces of them. That said, digital downloads should be considerably less expensive (notice I said should) than the physical media, as the manufacturing and material costs will be virtually nil. - Curtiss Grymala

Curtiss, you forget about the added cost of digital downloads. Servers and bandwidth. That will keep the cost pretty even. - Mathew™ one of a kind

If tied to an account, it would be nice to transfer the license of a game to another - Rodfather

I agree physical games will probably exist for a long time, just like vinyl and the aforementioned Atari 2600 games. But collectors aside, downloads will form the largest part of movie, game and music purchases I think (source: my crystall ball). It is an interesting question whether you'll be able to sell'm. On the one hand I think you should be able to do that, but on the other hand... more... - TobiasVerhoog.com

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'Machete' a trailer from Grindhouse is actually being made! "They just fucked with the wrong Mexican" w Jessica Alba - http://www.youtube.com/watch...

November 6 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

Here's the new movie poster featuring Jessica Alba as Sartana: http://www.comingsoon.net/news... - TobiasVerhoog.com

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Today's website tip: 1001 rules for my unborn son - http://rulesformyunbornson.tumblr.com/

October 22 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

"396. Never get your haircut on the day of the big dance." - TobiasVerhoog.com from Bookmarklet

Mark Krynsky

FriendFeed User Locations - Google Shared Map - http://maps.google.com/maps...

November 19, 2008 - Comment - Like - Share

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Roll call...this can be great if we all participate. Add yourself to this shared map. I created a placemark on the 2 major intersections near where I live. - Mark Krynsky

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or just list location...I'll start...Chatsworth, CA - Mark Krynsky

I would but I won't - Outsanity

near Chicago - LogEx

How do I add myself? - Mo Kargas

Grayson, GA - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

Puyallup, WA - Bren -- feeling merry

Mo, I'm a newb to the shared maps stuff, but I turned on collaboration and allowed anyone to edit the map. There should be an edit button and then you can add a placemark. - Mark Krynsky

erm...Adelaide, SA, Australia - Mo Kargas

Sydney, Australia. - Andrew Trinh

Yeah, I don't see how to add anything to the map - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

But you already have Rahsheen. - Andrew Trinh

Well it's working because I see others are adding themselves...Make sure you are logged into your Google account. - Mark Krynsky

After most have put their placemarks on, don't let anyone edit it because there's always someone out there waiting to fuck shit up. - Andrew Trinh

This guide may help http://local.google.com/support... - Mark Krynsky

@Andrew...good point. I just changed it from public to unlisted which only makes the map available to those with the URL. - Mark Krynsky

Even so, last time we had the Confessions account details on FF it was tinkered with. - Andrew Trinh

I added mine, but in the process of learning I think I nudged the Sydney, Australia points off a little. Sorry. - Rob Haas

Ok, think I did it! - Bec Rowe @d0tski

Robert bought me a new house in the northern suburbs. - Andrew Trinh

@Bec...nice. You are the first brave female on here. - Mark Krynsky

Cool idea, Mark! I was thinking something like this would be fun the other day. Duly added myself - or at least the nearest big intersection. ;) - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Mousing over the usernames shows your Google profile info...cool. - Mark Krynsky

I marked a bus stop near my house. But not TOO near. :) - Nine

If you haven't yet...go add FriendFeed to your Google Profile...it will then auto-discover and allow you to add a ton of other profiles you have. - Mark Krynsky

Thanks for the profile tip - I hadn't updated it since I moved here! - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Added myself. Verona, Italy - Stefano

Added. Sydney, Australia - Jay

Added. Doha, Qatar. - Mohamed J

Thanks guys. This is coming along nicely. It's great to have as a resource to see where everyone is from. Hopefully this can become a standard feature on FF one day. - Mark Krynsky

Canterbury, Melbourne, Victoria added - Duncan Riley

Athens, Greece added, too :) - George Tziralis

Added. - Atul Arora

Ace idea, I've added mine in Kent, England. - Kol Tregaskes

There's no spot for "Hell, Eternity" ... *sigh* I'll have to give in to my worldly location... - Kyle Brady

Added, Near Paris, France - Olivier Castets

Asia's letting the side down - Toby Graham

added, North London, UK - Rory

Current count: 13 US, 11 Europe, 3 Australia, 1 Middle East. Happy to see many others add themselves overnight. Hoping more will continue this. - Mark Krynsky

Done ! Waterloo Belgium - Jacopo Gio

Added myself! - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

Hey Robert Haas - We're apparently neighbors. - edit. Okay maybe not, unless you live at the airport. XD - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

I've read the instruction and still don't see the button thing to add myself. I'm feeling pretty stupid right now. -

@Jill, make sure you are logged into your Google account and then click on the edit button above the list of names already on the map. You will then see the pushpin in the upper left hand side of the map. - Mark Krynsky

Thanks Mark! I see it all now. -

Great idea! - Alan Le

Added. Seems like there are a lot of us in the Bay Area...we must do a get together at some point. - Neal Jansons

@Neal yea, we really need a FriendFeed meetup. I might be up there for Web 2.0 in March...or we can have one at SXSW if a large number of us are going. Let's plan and get the Upcoming page going. - Mark Krynsky

Am I the only FriendFeeder in VA? - Aram Zucker-Scharff

@Mark Not gonna make SXSW, but am definitely down for working on an FF get together. March is long enough away to make sure plenty of people have time to plan ahead. I added you on Upcoming so we can start coordinating it. Anyone else interested/want to help set this up? - Neal Jansons

Maybe we can talk Paul & Bret into letting us invade the FF offices for a meetup in conjunction with Web 2.0? That would be sooooo cool! - Mark Krynsky

Oooh, now that's a really great idea. - Neal Jansons

I'm there :) - Alejandro

Yay Alejandro...first South American..and my old stomping grounds in Argentina no less :) - Mark Krynsky

Added! - Shey, Jamaican of FF

Neat. Added. - Rodfather

Added. - michael sean wright

Alright Shey! We finally have a Canadian...let's see if your fellow compatriot Mark Wilson joins the fray. - Mark Krynsky

@NiceFishFilms, your pushpin seems a bit off up there in Russia. Dana Point is thousands of miles from there :) - Mark Krynsky

Oh, I see now...you added 2. You're a pushpin litterbug :) - Mark Krynsky

Added.. - Uncle CW™

Another snowflake pushpin *waves to Shey* - Micah Wittman

whoo hoo! Canadian snowflakes FTW! - Shey, Jamaican of FF

Added.Hi from Russia.:) - Igor Poltavskiy

How do I add myself again? How do I add my ff to my gmail account? - Amani

Done - ♥patricia♥

Cairo, Egypt - Hayk H.

reykjavik, iceland - siggimus

Cologne, Germany - Holger Eilhard

Carcavelos, Portugal - Ricardo Vidal

Added New Jersey but boy, it took a while to get the Pin logo on the screen, not so obvious - Sally Church

London EC1 UK - Joe Dawson

Added - Michelle Martinez

Added - Bwana ☠

Pinned! sheesh this just cost me 1/2 hour of time as I scrolled thru all the folks :) - bear (aka Mike Taylor)

Except for Bret, there are no FriendFeeders on the penninsula between San Jose and San Francisco. So much for Silicon Valley early adopters. - Ryan Kuder

Added! I'm the first in The Netherlands :-) - TobiasVerhoog.com

Added. First in Japan! - rawwell

I think I added me. HOpe it worked - Amani

added! - matthew john ernisse

This is truly awesome! - Mathew™ one of a kind

Cluelessness alert! I'm not seeing how to add my pushpin! - Hutch Carpenter

For some reason whenever i use google maps in creation-mode, it defaults to some other maps I've used, not the one I'm trying to access - ah, figured it out. Had to de-activate some other collaborative maps - anna sauce

Added. What a great way to see who's on FF in Austin, TX! - Carter Rabasa

Added myself in Shenzhen,China. - Steve Chou

courtenay, canada - http://friendfeed.com/ernieya... - ernie yacub

added me. Coimbatore, South India - vijay

Added Bangalore, India. - Mahesh CR

Added - Glenn Slaven

Added - Youngmin Kim

I'm added now, too. - Kamilah Gill

Nice! I'm the only active FriendFeeder in Montreal: Quebec represents FF! I could be a French Canadian FF ambassador or something. =) - ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,

Added - ThenWang

Added - James Myatt

Added. I am now an icon :^) - Nick B.

Added =) - ChaCha Fance

Added. - Bonnie Foster

Looks great in Google Earth! (from Paris) - Liviu Barbat

Added - Michael Fidler

Added. Antananarivo, Madagascar - Thierry R. Andriamirado

Finally me too :) Greetings from Ankara Turkey :) - Burçak Çubukçu

Bump for the good times. - Mark Krynsky

Nokia

Nokia Tries to Undo Blunders in U.S. (Kevin J. O'Brien/New York Times) - http://www.techmeme.com/091019...

October 19 from Nokia News Combined feed - Comment - Like - Share

"Nokia, the Finnish company that is the world’s biggest maker of mobile phones, is an undisputed powerhouse in Europe, Asia and Latin America, with market shares regularly topping 30 percent. But in the United States, Nokia’s signal has faded. As recently as March 2002, it led the American market with a 35 percent share. By last year, though, it slipped to 10 percent and by June of this year — the most recent figure available — Nokia’s share was only 7 percent. " - TobiasVerhoog.com

Sardar Mohkim Khan to Sardar's feed, ProBlogger Room, StartupMeme, Nokia Productions, Nokia

AT&T will bring Nokia Booklet 3G for $299 - http://startupmeme.com/att-wil...

October 13 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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299 is not much, but the required plan with AT&T is pretty heavy. - TobiasVerhoog.com

Nokia

Told Ya Nokia Was Doomed [Cellphones] - http://gizmodo.com/5382438...

October 15 from Nokia News Combined feed - Comment - Like - Share

Well, doomed. Has a fluctuating international market share. - TobiasVerhoog.com

Nokia

Getting started with the Nokia N900 - http://www.youtube.com/watch...

October 16 from YouTube - Comment - Like - Share

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This thing looks good. Better than the N97, with this type of touchscreen. But I wonder how the UI experience is. I didn't find that very good on the N97. - TobiasVerhoog.com

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My years of MS paint finally pay off. - http://gizmodo.com/5374890...

October 8 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

Hoax? - TobiasVerhoog.com from Bookmarklet

Zee. to Zee.'s feed, TheNextWeb Forum, Appetite, RWW: The Future of Tech, building43

Million Dollar Question: If you had to call it now. Is there: A) a particular community/site you're replacing Friendfeed with? If so, what is it? Or...B) nothing yet that comes close, and my plans are to...

September 22 - Comment - Like - Share

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B. - LogEx

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B. - SAM

B. - Michael Pardee

B. - Spidra Webster

B. - Derek Coward

/b/ - Akiva Moskovitz

I'm spending more time on FB... not that it's.. remotely the same. - Alix Whitmire

Can I buy a vowel, because A is too upsetting. - Micah Wittman

B... It has not felt quite the same since the FB buyout... - Robert Freeze

B... I don't know!! :( Ride it out as far as I can, hope that Google Wave saves the day really soon (though I'm worried if Google Reader is any indication of what that will be like). I'm so worried!! - Kamilah Gill

B and my plans are to keep hanging out here until further notice. - Laura Norvig

B. - Anne Bouey

B. I don't see a point in replacing Friendfeed. there is enough activity here to keep one going on for times to come... oh by the way what if Twitter becomes FriendFeed, in layout/functions? - Sardar Mohkim Khan

B - Joe

Sardar, that would be perfect and amazing, but I doubt it would happen... - Kamilah Gill

A-ish. Gotta be honest - the thing i liked most about Friendfeed is the tech community. My current project in SAlabs is building out a Friendfeed-like set of functionality for facilitating tech conversation. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

B. ...stay here until Friendfeed dies. - Jeff P. Henderson

You know, I still don't get why everyone thinks this place is going to die. I get that it could, but I'll wait until FB/FF announce something like that before I start worrying about it. (BTW, self-fulfilling prophecies generally aren't so great.) - Andrew C

Threadsy - Carlton Prest

B - ipek aral kişioğlu

B - my plans are to stay on FF as long as it's here in it's current unFacebook'ed state. As for alternatives, there is perhaps GReader but it doesn't come close. So let's hope the new OpenFF will eventually be FF's replacement. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

B - remain here and make friends. Websites may come and go, friends are forever. :) - Mahendra (SkepticGeek)

I liked the older version of friendfeed better, before the interface redesign, so if other site offered same interface with lots of people already in it, then I would be interested. From what I have seen, nothing comes close. The closest is socialmedian as alternative to friendfeed but it lacks the structure and flow as is found here. - TrafficBug

B. While the community here continues to be so engaging, I don't feel the need to move on to anything else. - Andrew Terry

B. Andrew +1 - Sasha Kovaliov(.com) from fftogo

B. - Mark "Lykkelig Nyt Ǻr" J

B. Well I've just managed to get all my real friends using Friendfeed. I created a private room and now all my close friends from all round the world can banter it up. Facebook has the numbers but the tech is still poor. Anyone who watched the developers preview of Google Wave will know we're all just treading water till it comes out - Toby Graham

B - RAPatton from iPhone

Paul Buchheit declined to make any definitive statement about the future, but I think that's because geeks like to always be right, and forward-looking statements can be wrong. He did say that he thinks the chances of FriendFeed disappearing are lower post-acquisition, which to me means "don't worry about it." I don't have any post-FriendFeed plans. I like it here, and I'm staying. - Bruce Lewis

Nothing even comes close yet. I'm staying here until they turn the lights off. - David Cook from fftogo

b - stay on ff as long as i enjoy staying here - barbarars

/b/ then /s/ - Chris Hofmann

No there would be nothing close - unless someone managed to build something very similar. If anyone knows of such a site - let me know. - Alternating Reality Books

B - I agree with Andrew as well - This is a great community - martha

B - Still a great community. Nothing has come close to replacing it yet - Anthony Feint

B - and I'm staying put until everyone else leaves. Like most folks here, I have tons of accounts on other social networks and web services, and I maintain them to a degree, but FF is one of the only places I come back to regularly, with a high rate of frequency. - tinypants - Hagitha of FF

B - Go down with the ship if it ever sinks. I'm sure other sites will replace this experience at some point but no need to worry now. - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

B - I tried A. Facebook and A. Google Reader and they're both something else - Jorge Escobar

B - My plans are to cut my self off from the social networking community when FF goes under. - Alex Scrivener

B. Keeping my eyes open for a backup/archiving system (I know a few are out there), but most of the good content is aggregated from other places -- as time goes by, that becomes less and less true, as I've been uploading stuff directly to FF. I am hopeful that FB won't do something stupid though. - Andy Bakun

I have actually been rethinking the way I interact online. That is, move away from the aggregation of content from various services and more toward the pushing of information from one network (a la Posterous). - Cloud

B and I agree with Anthony Feint - Muge Cerman

B. We obviously need a decentralized way to share real time. Wave federation seems to fit in but it's not even available for all. - Berk D. Demir

I think B but once Wave comes out there's a chance it may replace FF for me - Wang Yip

Someone will need to create a front-end, of sorts, if we want Wave to replace FF. Ideally it's the best option but I don't believe it will be easy. - Kol Tregaskes

Posterous seems to be moving in an interesting direction. - Colby

B. - Ton Zijp

b - Mike Nencetti

B - Unless something wonderful comes up with a similar community of users, I'll just drop out when FF is gone. FB is for RL friends and that sort of use won't change probably. - Jen (SquirrelGirl)

Spending more time w Posterous lately - Phil Dunn

B but using A GReader a lot more and waiting for OpenFF - I have to say that Google Wave looks v promising though and have been trying it out - Nicholas Paul Gordon from iPhone

wow, so i'm the only person who used FF to replace something else? :P - Joe Silence

Well he didn't ask us what we used FF to replace. He asked us what we're replacing FF with, if at all. Otherwise I would've answered differently. :) - tinypants - Hagitha of FF

Both.. - ★ Soner Gönül

B - Chris Myles

B. I'm pretty sure another FF like service will become huge in the next two years, the walled garden approach of FB has no future. - Nik

A: Reddit, Google Reader (although I don't comment that much) and Twitter. I don't know why, but I'm not spending a lot of time here anymore. - Alejandro

B: This is still the spot. No other system compares. - Eric @ CSTechcast.com

B: Plan is to wish that it was still around - Keith - @tsudo

Friendfeed will only die if we let it. - Garin Kilpatrick

B ! - zʍıɔ

B - Everything has a life cycle but FF does just what I'm looking for now. Show me something new and I'll try it. I come here first for tech news daily. - Dave from BuddyFeed

d'oh, misread OP! B: i'm sticking around on FF. - Joe Silence

gotta go with the B's. - Karma Martell

B, but I'm starting to focus my time on fewer networks & I'm going too be very cautious about joining new ones for the time being. - Michael Fidler from BuddyFeed

Spending more time in Google Reader now. Is it me or Reader's comments/conversation isn't real time? Oh, I have Posterous account now. Just in case. - jan geronimo

B. - Denis Titkov

sigh. :( - edythe

B. - Guy Vander Heyden

B - LouCypher

My time on FriendFeed has dropped dramatically although threes nothing that competes with it at the moment its not worth my time using a service if its going to disappear. - Nicholas James

B. Staying with FriendFeed, at least for the time being. There are a couple of other semi interesting services out there, and I'm not talking Posterous, but until such time as they're supported by some slick iPhone clients there's no chance I'll be taking a closer look. FreshFeed has had a recent and very useful update (currently a complete bargain in appstore, go get) and hopefully... more... - JSLeFanu

I should really read the entirety of the first post before moving onto the comments. I thought everyone was moving to 4chan :( - Matt Snoulten

making an effort to use facebook while waiting for friendfeed to get integrated - Mike Chelen

I tried to replace the experience on Facebook and then got hooked on a silly farmgame there. So, somehow not spending as much time here anymore... The system of Facebook does have potential though. Not such a big surprise, since they replicated Friendfeed. - TobiasVerhoog.com

B - Kimber Scott

B. - Steven Perez

B - Nothing else compares *mumbles* - I really hate Facebook - Jannifer @wordsforliving

Tobias: it would be great if they can copy Friendfeed, for now the like & comment system is very different, posts don't get bumped to the top, and there is nothing in realtime except chat - Mike Chelen

TobiasVerhoog.com

Monopoly City Streets - speel monopoly met Google Maps als bord. Wie op 30 jan het meeste van de wereld bezit wint. - http://www.monopolycitystreets.com/game...

September 13 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

Wel snel zijn, de meeste leuke straten zijn al weg en je speelt tegen de rest van de wereld. - TobiasVerhoog.com from Bookmarklet

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Rep Joe Wilson Getting the Stink-Eye

September 9 from email - Comment - Like - Share

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She's as cold as ice... - Eric @ CSTechcast.com

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Stay classy #partythatwillnotbenamed - Louis Gray

If looks could... discredit your party with the populace... - Eric @ CSTechcast.com

Do they have no shame. Oh yea that's right he's a republican. Do we expect anything more or less? - Seth Goldstein

I really loved Joe B. in that moment. He was simply disgusted. - Ayşe E.

It looks like Nancy Pelosi is about to smack someone in the back of the head like what the hell is wrong with you. - Eric @ CSTechcast.com

If looks could kill - Joe Wilson would be a zombie right now. - AJ Kohn

i wonder what Obama is saying behind closed doors.... - ~C4Chaos

They're probably on the phone with Home Depot to send him some more shovels to dig his political grave. - Trish R

I'm surprised he didn't vaporize on the spot. - Karoli

I barely noticed the President's reaction because Nancy Pelosi was shooting arrows, make that stinger missiles over at unruly Joe Wilson. - Robin Bertelsen

"See me after class." - Trish R

Oh, I love that look! I have a friend from Hawaii and that's what she'd call it as well - The Stink Eye.LOL - Jesse P. Luna

Great photo - Chris A. Hanousek

In this picture: Biden: "I'm disgusted." Obama: "How dare you." Pelosi: "Jackals will slake their thirst on your entrails before dawn." - Stephen Mack

*saves image as JoeWilsonIsToast.jpg* - Joe Silence

joe assured his re-election - imran

Stephen, re: Pelosi. Maybe. But she only seems to be tough when it comes to members of her own party. - Kevin Pedraja

Why does Pelosi look surprised. O wait. - TobiasVerhoog.com

Instead of #bitchlips, might I suggest #POTUSbitchlips as a tag for this post? - cecily

You can almost see Pelosi's face turn white... anger, shock, surprise dismay, all in one look. she should have been an actress she can express so much with one look - Tate DA FF MVP

haha, Stephen, nice caption. - Chieze Okoye

a collective 'WTF?' moment. The rare and deadly '6 Stink Eye Gaze of Death' makes it's debut. - Morgan Haley

http://www.youtube.com/watch..., start at 1:12 - Pelosi plots execution under breath at 1:35 - Christopher Galtenberg

Great picture. A lesson in leadership: Joe's constituents deserve representation, not a mimic. - E-Advocate Network

Christopher, great vid, but I noticed that the poster is super right wing and is (somehow) trying to use it as a condemnation of the president and his speech. GUH-WHAT? They (and the commenters in the heavily moderated comments) took the best parts of the speech and are trying to say this is why the President and this plan is wrong?? Reality Distortion Field in full effect. - Chieze Okoye

Yeah, all the other videos had the same lunatics commenting -- same people, too -- I swear there are like 20K-100K people representing the entire nutso right online. Let's hope. - Christopher Galtenberg

Cristo

When you click Like on a post, do you think you're adding it to your subscribers' feed?

September 3 - Comment - Like - Share

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Most of the time, I don't. I just do it as a bookmark, or to say to myself it was interesting. - Cristo

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I do. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

I try not to think about it, 'cause if I did it'd make me all self conscious and I'd probably never Like or comment on anything ;-) I've thought about creating another account...with no subscribers... just for random gibberish like the discussion around TWiT shows and other podcasts... or threads like this... but then I'm not really thinking about "branding" or "followers" as much as I guess I'm supposed to be. - Ken Sheppardson

my likes go to twitter for my twitter subscribers - Chris Heath

Yes! - Eric Logan

Ken, threads like this?! What's that mean. :) - Cristo

I mean threads that really don't have a purpose or go anywhere. Like the time I caught the ferry to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for my shoe. So I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt. Which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees... more... - Ken Sheppardson

Yes, and they'd better damn appreciate my contribution. LOL. - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

Ken, okay. I thought it was an interesting question. I mean, as interesting as anything involving social networking goes. I'm interested in hearing how your story ends though. Do you get smashed in the face before you get to Shelbyville or on the way back? :) - Cristo

sometimes - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF from fftogo

It obviously ends with sweet onions like the potato belt ends with a dictator. - Eric Logan

Sorry... yeah... I agree it's an interesting question. I just got a little distracted there :-). For me "Like" is primarily feedback to the person who posted/started an item, i.e. "I like that you posted this" or "Thanks for starting this thread" I rarely think about the down-stream effects. - Ken Sheppardson

For me Like = Share - TobiasVerhoog.com

Sometimes - Rodfather

Awesome Grandpa Simpson quote there Ken ... made me think about liking this post - Chris Heath

I too use it to bookmark, similar to a star in Greader. I either really liked it or want to read it later. - David Rodriguez

Andrew Trinh

Beyoncé, Scarlett Johansson or Jessica Alba?

August 17 - Comment - Like - Share

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is there a 4th choice? - Yolanda

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God dammit! Andrew, they're all hot. You damn bastard. - Matt Ruiz

@Yolanda++++ - Shevonne

Scarlett - ★Kristy

None of these ladies, Yolanda/Shevonne? - Andrew Trinh

Johansson...aside from the physical, I think should would be the better conversationalist. - JA Castillo

What Yolanda and Shevonne said. Obviously. - Derrick

Derrick, that's cheating. Let's say everyone had to pick ONE of these ladies, who would you choose (not necessarily based on physical appearance)? - Andrew Trinh from IM

I guess I would choose Scarlett. I wouldn't choose Jessica Alba because she is ashamed of her latin roots. Beyonce still annoys me with how she handled the whole Destiny's Child thing. Scarlett hasn't done anything to irritate me, so if we are not basing it on looks and I have to choose one, then Scarlett. - Shevonne

Scarlett - Alex Scoble

It all depends on the criteria. I don't know what any of them are like IRL, so it's hard to say. - LogEx

I suspect that Beyoncé & Jessica Alba are both quite high maintenance, so they lose points for that. - LogEx

If there's no other choice - Scarlett - Spidra Webster

Beyonce appetizer, Scarlett! main course, Jessica dessert - Adrian

Scarlett! - AJ Kohn

Yes? Oh wait this is another cosmo how to secretly make your fiancé guilty trick. The correct answer is, they're all uglier than my lady! - Mark Essel from iPhone

Well, if I have to choose, I'd like to hang out with Scarlett. She might have some interesting stories to tell. - Yolanda

+1 Mark - Robert Miller

Scarlett - Adi

Smart choice, Mark haha. - Andrew Trinh

Umm. Scarlett because she puts me to sleep in every film she's in and I have chronic insomnia? - Alix Whitmire

Yes. - pea

Scarlet handsdown. - vijay

What Vijay said - Johnny

Definitely Scarlett for me - Wang Yip

Beyonce is just dos muchos, Jessica Alba? Meh. And I'm still hating on Scarlett for A) Lost in Translation, and B) Marrying Ryan Reynolds. - Derrick

Beyonce is about as fake as the airbrushing on that photograph, and would probably hold a conversation as well as a potted plant. Jessica seems far too stuck up and high-maintenance, and I agree with Shevonne about losing points because she's ashamed of her heritage. Scarlett is intelligent and multi-talented, so I'd have to go with her. - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

yonce, then alba, then scarlett - chrisofspades

Beyonce? Woof.. - Johnny

Scarlett Johansson seems to be the clear winner so far because she seems to have more brains and personality than the other two (or she puts you to sleep if you're a chronic insomniac…interpret that as you will). One point goes to Mark Essel's lady. - Andrew Trinh

Jessica by a close margin. - Josh Haley

+1 for Scarlett - ronin

ALL OF THE ABOVE. I CAN HAZ. PLZ? - AJ Batac

Scarlet. Absolutely. - Joey Gibson

Alba...yummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. - Beau Liening

Scarlett... - Zee.

Scarlett - Giovanni Cappellotto

Scarlett - گل باقالی

Beyonce! - MutfakTeyze

yes, Scarlett.. period. - Gtp19

i think i have a prob. since i only see scarlette... :))) - Atif UNALDI

my wife blows these ladies out of the water. sorry, no bikini-clad pics. just take my word for it... :) - Scott Magdalein

@Scott A quick look through your Flickr gallery can amend that. Hubba hubba! :D - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

Drop Alba for Ayumi Hamasaki and you've got my ultimate 4some! As much as I like the others, for me it has to be Scarlett as she genuinely seems to have a personality. Oh and my mum's blonde with big tits so according to the Oedipus complex I really had no choice in the matter! - Toby Graham

@haggis - oh yeah, LOL. I ain't lyin', huh! - Scott Magdalein

Your wife blows WHUT? - Andrew Trinh

@trinh - ahem... ;) - Scott Magdalein

scarlett :D - آریـوبرزن

Milla Jovovich? Morena Baccarin? Jewel Staite? - Ladybug Heather

Jessica Alba, duh - Outsanity

scarlett, cuz everyone knows Beyonce' is a bitch and I have already seen Jessica naked. - Lokei Atikus™®

what's the question? I pick D, all of the above - Bryan R. Adams

I'm pretty sure Jessica Alba is the only right answer. Ever. - Heather

Scarlett Johansson...tho that Tom Waits cover album makes it iffy. - Joe Silence

I'd go with Scarlett, but dang that photo of her is awful. - Tristan Seligmann

i dunno, i think the only bad part is the expression on her face. it's like she's waiting for you to discover the poop she smeared on your chin while you were napping. - Joe Silence

Scarlett Johansson hands down :) - 'Like' robot (frɐnc)

just jessica alba :) - ugly girl

ooo, Scarlett - Imabug

Alba - Bradley Farless

Scarlett. - Parth Awasthi

Ok crikey!! Nurse! - Kevin J Hatton

Can't believe Alba doesn't get everyone's vote. Well +1 Jessica Alba. - TobiasVerhoog.com

Alba is good looking and photographs well, but Scarlett looks like she means business... when it comes down to business. Just a guess. - Adrian

Beyonce. Have you seen her thighs? #oohgirl - Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕ from iPhone

Scarlett - Alex Scrivener

Scarlett だろJK - YungSang from FriendFooV2

Beyoncé. She'd make me laugh, and then she'd teach me the "Single Ladies" dance, which would make her laugh. We'd have fun. - Ayşe E.

...yes - Cardeen Martinez

Even though I can't stand her music, Beyonce. The other two, while pretty, could use a sandwich or a bowl of grits....just sayin. - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

None of the above, it would've been Scarlett hands down till she stole my boyfriend Ryan Reynolds. Bitch. - sofarsoShawn

Yup, Rah. - Ayşe E.

Scarlett - Brandon

Scarlett! - Shawn Farner

Beyonce, the other two "girls" are overrated.. - Terence

Mmmm Jessia Albaaa - Will Higgins™

Jess! - David Cook

Rah, this is the first time I heard someone say that Scarlett could use a sandwich. - Bryan R. Adams

I'll have Scarlett and Jessica, you can keep Beyonce. - Mellissa

Just Beyoncé :)) - Mahdi Ebrahimi

Salma. Oh, not a choice. Damn. - Ben Hanten

Looks like one big Buffet to me. Just sayin. - Scratch5150

Scarlett - Raphael, Raphael

Alba - Mohamed J

Scarlett and Jessica. - zooz

Scarlett first. And fourth, and seventh, ... - Andrew C

Based on these photos Scarlett - میر «عرفان» موسوی

Jessica Alba no doubt - Rodfather

Scarlett no doubt - Durukan Duru

Beyonce. I only like ethnic women, and I especially love ethnic women with curves. - Mark Davidson from BuddyFeed

Jessica Alba's face and Beyonce's body :)) - Turgay Dogan

I've always been a huge fan of Jessica Alba('s body), but I'm gunna have to go with Scarlett Johansson. - Matthew Horton

jessica... - Erfan342

Scarlett - Serkan Unsal

Jessica Alba. - Peter Kruit

If this had been posed circa Dark Angel, well, no contest. But Scarlett has since dethroned Ms. Alba. Oh, though even circa Dark Angel, if you replaced Beyonce with Original Cindy, I'd have problems choosing. - Michael W. May

I'll let them do the fighting. Whoever wins can have me. - Ruud van Wijngaarden

Scarlett any day of the week. - Nathan Chase

Beyonce - مهکامه

J. Alba. - Ümit Orhan

Gotta go with Scarlett, myself. Although Jessica Alba is all-kinda caramel goodness. - Jason Huebel

Alba - eljayblue

TobiasVerhoog.com

Retweeting Is Cheating, Thread The Conversation - http://www.joedawsons.com/2009...

August 16 from Google Reader - Comment - Like - Share

I totally agree. Threaded tweets would improve twitter majorly. - TobiasVerhoog.com

Kol Tregaskes to Kol's feed, FriendFeed Talk, FriendFeed for Beginners, FriendFeed Feedback

Find Friendfeeders Across The Web - http://haochen.me/ffweb/

August 16 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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"This tool finds all the sites that your Friendfeed friends (subscriptions) use and allows you to filter the results. It uses the Friendfeed API and the Social Graph API." - from Hao Chen: http://friendfeed.com/bitfaker - Kol Tregaskes from Bookmarklet

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Nice find, but like nearly all such sites it maxes out at a low user count (200, in this case). I already have more than 200 subscription connections on here so *shrugs* - LANjackal

I'm running it with max 6000 users. Just change the # - Kol Tregaskes

Find friendfeeders across the web ... http://friendfeed.com/everyone - Slappy Line

This is really great. Am using it to follow google reader people. And maybe facebookers. - TobiasVerhoog.com

I wish I could do the same but I'm not clicking on 2449 links ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

I don't really know exactly how many *users* I subscribe to from my 6,017 subscriptions but 3,473 of them are on Facebook. - Kol Tregaskes

Kol, you're right. Didn't see that the max # was customizable - LANjackal from IM

All the Friendfeeders I know are across the web - Aaman (Clone of FF)

:-) - Kol Tregaskes

Does this show only the services that my friends have imported to FF? - Rochelle

Wow, didnt know about this, quite clever! - Simon Wicks

Simon, yep, shame there is no easy way to subscribe from the page and I'm not sure if it actually removes everyone you subscribe to but very clever nevertheless from Hao. - Kol Tregaskes

Rochelle, I believe that's how it works, yep. - Kol Tregaskes

I'll run it against all my subscriptions later ;) - Nicholas James

LOL, expect a loooong wait then, Nicholas. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

TobiasVerhoog.com

Google Reader actually has some nice social features. Will have to try it some more to see if it is actually easy to work with. I already use it for reading stuff of course.

August 16 - Comment - Like - Share

Am also using this to find fellow ffers on G Reader. http://haochen.me/ffweb - TobiasVerhoog.com

TobiasVerhoog.com

Hello everyone! :-) - http://www.google.com/reader...

August 16 from Google Reader - Comment - Like - Share

Not sure how it works, but I guess this should show up. Reader has some pretty nice social features. - TobiasVerhoog.com

TobiasVerhoog.com

Re: Private: Survey: How do You Process Online Information? - http://www.productivewise.com/survey-...

August 16 from Disqus - Comment - Like - Share

"Depends. Very few things I bookmark (and sync with xmarks). Some more things I will tag in Diigo. Then some more things I will share in Friendfeed, which I know will be pretty easy to find again. You can also search in Google Reader in your read or shared items, which is useful too sometimes. But thinking about it I hardly ever try to find something again." - TobiasVerhoog.com

TobiasVerhoog.com

Facebook's Purchase Is Bid to Own Social Media - washingtonpost.com - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...

August 16 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

"So here's a theory: FriendFeed is going to become the companion to Facebook Connect; Facebook Connect pipes Facebook out to other sites, while FriendFeed's technology pipes other sites in. How do I deduce this? It's reasonable to assume that Facebook won't somehow combine FriendFeed's user database with Facebook's. It's likely all FriendFeeders are Facebookers, and the two networks aren't set up to be compatible. And unlike much of the tech press, I don't believe this acquisition is about real-time search or a competition with Twitter. Instead, I think this is about social aggregation. Facebook bought FriendFeed so it could become the Huffington Post of your social life." - TobiasVerhoog.com from Bookmarklet

Simon Vreeman

Busje komt zo (1995) - http://www.youtube.com/watch...

August 14 from YouTube favorites - Comment - Like - Share

1995 al weer - TobiasVerhoog.com

TobiasVerhoog.com

Een statiegeldautomaat waarbij je ervoor kunt kiezen dat je geld naar het goede doel gaat. Slim. Nog niet in NL of wel?

August 14 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

Wel gezien dat je de bonnetjes in een doosje kon stoppen voor eem goed doel. - Daan from Android

Oja, dat is ook wel handig. Maar ik las over een automaat in Duitsland waar je gewoon op een knopje kon drukken. - TobiasVerhoog.com

Robert Scoble

Facebook is unusable? That's what I'm reading here. Well, please explain how 300 million use it then. Including my wife, my son, me, and ALL of Maryam's elementary school friends from Iran.

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I think most mean it's not as comfortable as FriendFeed. - Amit Morson

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I think some of the stuff I'm reading about Facebook is laughable. Really? I went over and used it tonight and the news feed is very similar to FriendFeed. The technology from here will fit right in. - Robert Scoble

Actually, Robert's right. FriendFeed's basically a superior version of the Facebook news feed. - Dennis Jernberg

I wish Friend Feed was keyboard navigatable though. Google Reader and GMail have spoiled me; making me think that web apps can be usable as well. I don't like using the mouse so much. - Travis B. Hartwell

It's gotten a bit easier since they started copying Twitter/Friendfeed...but its the third-party silly stuff that puts me off. Serious stuff was always better here in Friendfeed. - George Hall (Australia)

we are compatable, hell the wedding is over put the shotguns down and lets all party like geeks. go to bed. love you all. you may friend me at any one of these places as lisbethwest. gnite! - lisbethwest

George: I ignore all that stuff, it never bothered me. - Robert Scoble

When do do we get hear what the plan actually is? I have used the FF app in facebook from time to time. But the problem is facebook is clunky due to it's massive membership so I tend click back to here. Is FB really going to get faster? It be smart to have both running in tandem methinks no? - BairdWilliamson

Facebook is like the social housing estate next door. There are some decent people living there, and there are some pockets of nobs who will steal the hubcaps off your car and throw them through your windows while trying to sell some dodgy dvd's on the street corners. - Gilbert Harding

PS yoono makes it groovy and friendbar keeps it happy - lisbethwest

Almost everyone I know IRL uses Facebook, but increasingly grudgingly. - LogEx

I know millions of people who use four remote controls to watch TV. - Luca Sofri

It is not usable in the way that friendfeed is (I know there are problems) - Paul Kinlan

but facebook is soo complicated - Paul Kinlan

I'll go with the train. If the train heads to Facebook I suppose thats where I need to go as well :) I'm absolute certain that FF staff will have a great impact on the user experience of FB. Trying to be positive I also think it's a great thing that FB still strive to evolve. - Patrik Arwengrim

Facebook is ugly, looks like a corporate site and very slow and clunky, like a busy factory with adds at every corner - Thierry Lhôte

Baird: software takes months. Paul is right. But Paul, you can just ignore a lot of the complexity there. - Robert Scoble

hhahaha, sth. like that i thought this second too, Luca :) - Ronald

Facebook is unusable to do the things that FriendFeed can do - Anthony Feint

lol, the #1 excuse I hear for people migrating from FriendFeed to Facebook is the annoying applications on the home feed. You can edit those out of your view you know. Same for people you don't want to converse with (privacy settings). - Hugh Isaacs II

@Robert - I find Facebook extremely useful... for playing Mafia and FarmTown style games. Engagement is just difficult there. I'm not sure if it's the UI, the crowd I have there, or what, but I just don't get into a comfortable conversational groove there on FB the way I do on Twitter or here. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

in fact, the four founders of Friendfeed recieved a trader bonus, for doing real-time search on Facebook, not changing Facebook to become Friendfeed - Thierry Lhôte

Robert - you're confusing number of users with ease of use. Millions of people of all ages used to be happy with their cellphones, but it wasn't until the iPhone came along that those people saw how usable a phone *could* be. - Andrew Terry

Anthony: like start a mob war? :-) - Robert Scoble

robert: I think it is hard to ignore the complexity, it took me ages to upload a phote once (or even find where to do it) - Paul Kinlan

robert: and there is no discovery... I love ff for its friend of a friend features and best of the day.... oh and my discussions. - Paul Kinlan

On Facebook i really only have my closest friends and family as "friends". I think i will not change that. I believe i am not the only one - Flynn (Michael A. Volz)

I think someone hit the nail on the head. The one thing really missing from the Facebook experience is the sort of engagement we have here at Friendfeed. - George Hall (Australia)

exactly - Flynn (Michael A. Volz)

robert: no sharing content is what im talking about. I actually don't personally know the people I follow on FriendFeed. many are influencers like yourself. This is where I get my news. On Facebook you have Friends not Followers - Anthony Feint

anyway, the key way to tell something is not friendly to someone, it is listening to that someone. That someone says it's not. You can't go and tell him he's wrong in what he doesn't like. - Luca Sofri

Anthony: that's changing and quickly. My Facebook looks exactly like FriendFeed. - Robert Scoble

Why are you using FF and Twitter and not FB then? Besides, they totally hid the applications so anything not out of the box is hard to get to. Advanced functionalities are hard to get to. It's the only site I can think of that I had to use the Help section to find stuff... - Eran Kampf from iPhone

@Anthony Actually Facebook has a following feature http://startupmeme.com/faceboo.... - Hugh Isaacs II

That and facebook is full of punk teenagers that I don't want to talk to ;) - Paul Kinlan

@Paul, Then delete them from your friends list, or don't add them. - Hugh Isaacs II

You choose your own friends on facebook, right? - TobiasVerhoog.com

also I do believe the UI on Facebook is terrible. It took me 5 attempts to try and create a page on Facebook and I still have to do a search for it when I want to view it - Anthony Feint

Robert, its all the poking and quizzes and other jejune stuff on Facebook - Aaman (Clone of FF)

Of course Facebook is usable. The point is what do you want to use it for. It was the one place where I could have family and close friends in a CLOSED network. I don't want the world and his missus to see my birthday party - sorry. Friendfeed is a completely different thing. Use it as a lifestream - have all sorts of friends/ acquiaintances/ whatever on there. They are not one and the same and I don't see how they can be. - sofiagk

@Aaman, block the quizzes from your home feed. - Hugh Isaacs II

Aaman: I've been on Facebook for a long time and I just ignore that stuff. No harm to me. - Robert Scoble

Facebook is cluttered. It's not a platform for sharing information and discussion. They're intended for two entirely separate purposes. That being said, I definitely am looking forward to what the FriendFeed team can do with Facebook. If real-time search is where they stop, it'll be hell. - Adam Reyher from Alert Thingy

On Facebook you choose your friends, just like here. Some differences, plus over there you have to decide whether you're going to be public or private up front. - Robert Scoble

So why you were then one of the sincerest ambassadors for FF and NOT FB? But taste changes... - Ronald

@Hugh what I was implying was that FF is open participation, so I am talking to you, I might not be following you but I am still talking to you; FB is open to 300 million users most of which I couldn't stop talking to me even if I wanted. Usage wise (from my perception) FB is closed to your personal groups, FF is discovery, the twain shall never mesh - Paul Kinlan

Robert Scoble was more interesting when he actually had a defensible opinion, rather than just went along with whatever the industry seemed to be doing and worked to egg people on. We remember those times, don't we? - Andy Bakun

I always laugh at people saying "what's the problem? Just do this, and it is ok". But the reason we use computers and software is we don't want to do this. We want to have things exactly the way we need them, not the way we need them if we just do this and this. - Luca Sofri

Facebook is not designed to be a public tool - think back to its roots. It's more of a private thing. If I am forced to use it like Friendfeed then I am deleting at least 80% of my info - sofiagk

@Paul, I think that's going to change with the FriendFeed acquisition. Facebook's aiming more for the public stuff instead of only focusing on close relationships now. - Hugh Isaacs II

cool, I used the word twain (evern if it is wrong) - Paul Kinlan

@sofiagk that´s exactly my point - Flynn (Michael A. Volz)

@sofiagk, Everything on Facebook is choice, I doubt they'll force you to be public, it'll probably be very tightly controlled. - Hugh Isaacs II

Think of the privacy settings. - Hugh Isaacs II

@Hugh, I would love FB to change to be more like FF but I can't see it happening, I would love to get to see the real-time search (someone said they just released it). - Paul Kinlan

sofiagk: I completely agree - Facebook was built for closed and private networks. Which is the complete opposite of FF. I don't want to setup complex privacy settings becasue I don't want my family to be inundated with php and coding articles. - Anthony Feint

If we are talking about privacy settings you might want to check out my FB app http://www.knowyourprivacy.com - Paul Kinlan

do i really want to search facebook? really? - Flynn (Michael A. Volz)

FB's great strength was for the private stuff. If I'm forced to choose between public and private, I'm going to stay private, because that's where my IRL friends are. Sorry, FFers. - James Myatt

@Michael A. "Flynn" Volz +1 - sofiagk

@Paul, I don't think Facebook plans to continue as just a closed network anymore, I think their goal is to cover all types of social interactions on the web so it's very likely they'll have FriendFeed like features. - Hugh Isaacs II

We use each tool to our own purposes but that doesn't mean that each tool is not better suited to a type of use. - sofiagk

@sofiagk, What's to say Facebook can't act as two tools instead of one? - Hugh Isaacs II

@hugh, the had better change their API to support that type activity then. - Paul Kinlan

@Paul, They already did. - Hugh Isaacs II

Hugh, I'm sure it can, but it's going to be really awkward. Like using a Swiss army knife to put shelves together and then skin a rabbit. - James Myatt

@James, Yea, I can't defend that, lol. - Hugh Isaacs II

@Hugh Isaacs II well if they are planning to open up then half of the apps are more or less redundant I would guess. You spend all of your time becoming something and then strip down to become something else? What's the point? I'm sorry I just don't understand what is the point with competing with twitter. Facebook vs Twitter is just a silly question, how would you compare them? Using some ff feature to make the stream on facebook better - sure I get that. - sofiagk

I think Facebook really need to sketch out what they're going to do with Friendfeed, and that might help people adapt to the idea better. At the moment, too much speculation and people really have no idea what to expect of this. - George Hall (Australia)

I've never beeon a big user of FF. I still don't quite get it. I use FB to keep in touch with people I know. As far as I can see FF is more for discovering stuff and discussing it with people I don't. Or have I missed the point? - Marc A. Price

@sofiagk, When you look at what Facebooks done so far, it seems like they just want all of the internets social interactions in one place. I mean it does sound silly but sticking to one thing is what killed off Friendster, Classmates, MySpace and so on. - Hugh Isaacs II

Marc, I think that is exactly the point - James Myatt

Being on FF is like publishing only things you want. With advanced privacy settings, you can just filter what to share on FB. BUT (a big but) I don't trust Facebook and I've seen it enabling stuff like alerts and configuration settings just because they had some error in their system. I don't share my private life on FF but I share family pictures, my personal details like my cell phone because I only allow people I know personally on FB. - Burak "cyrus" Bayburtlu

My biggest problems with using Facebook like Friendfeed are lack of friend-of-friend content (if someone else likes / comments on something, I don't get that in my feed), barriers to engagement (subscribing to someone you don't really "know" on FF is fine; sending a friend request to someone you don't really "know" on FB is not cool), and the fact that stuff falls down the feed too quickly because likes / comments don't bump it to the top again. - Tristan Seligmann

@hugh, they haven't changed their api at all, the status stream is a bit of a joke. - Paul Kinlan

@Hugh Isaacs II if they want to get all of social interaction in one place they have grossly misunderstood the nature of social interaction generally. People do not have ONE identity which they use to interact with EVERYONE. Rather we have MULTIPLE. I don't talk to my boss the same way as I talk to my friend. That's why I need multiple tools. So if there is only one on offer I will not use it. - sofiagk

@sofiagk i totally agree with that - Flynn (Michael A. Volz)

@sofiagk, that's what the privacy settings are for. In real life you don't take on multiple personas (well at least I don't think you do) so why do it on the internet? And in real life certain conversations are private, kept from others. You shouldn't require separate identities for that. - Hugh Isaacs II

And you can't expect them to know the perfect network for human interaction. The fact that they're trying gives me confidence though. It's like Googles goal to store all of the worlds information in one place, it won't happen but it definitely made some great products. - Hugh Isaacs II

@Hugh Isaacs II do you really trust facebook with the complicated settings and permissions and groups. I don't. I will agree with what @Burak "cyrus" Bayburtlu said above. I get what you are saying about trying. But at the end of the day Google has multiple product offerings. Facebook doesn't (for now). - sofiagk

Hugh, you do need separate places for that so that there's no risk of being overheard accidentally. - James Myatt

@sofiagk, I don't honestly. I'm defending them based off of idealism not favoritism. And yea, handling all of that stuff will probably end up in a million mistakes but it's a product, that happens. Also what's to say Facebook can't have multiple products? (That could be apart of this whole FriendFeed thing) - Hugh Isaacs II

@Hugh Isaacs II well - let's see what's gonna happen. Btw thanks for the lively chat a blog post is being drafted in my head as I type :-) - sofiagk

multiple products, like google does, that would be a really good idea. rename friendfeed and go on - Flynn (Michael A. Volz)

Your welcome, also if it's of any help, the maker of FriendFeed posted up something of reassurance http://friendfeed.com/paul... - Hugh Isaacs II

I think it makes more sense to have multiple "spaces" (work / private / whatever) in the same tool than arbitrarily dividing those up across multiple tools. - Tristan Seligmann

For example, most people would probably not create a Yahoo email account for emailing some people, and a GMail account for emailing others; they would just create two GMail accounts. - Tristan Seligmann

@Tristan, It's funny alot of people on FriendFeed are talking about migrating to Google Wave because of the whole Facebook thing, and in reality that's what Wave is going to do. - Hugh Isaacs II

All of the big companies whether open or not are aiming at owning your internet identity, they don't want separate identities because it doesn't define everything correctly. That's why Google has their profiles feature, why so many companies support OpenID, etc... It may not be something you're used to but over time it will just be one account per person, based on how social networking evolves. - Hugh Isaacs II

I bet even FriendFeed had that idea (Hint: Google, Facebook and Twitter log in feature). - Hugh Isaacs II

Carefully observe how someone communicates on phone call versus a face-to-face conversation. It's different—for one thing speaking in a louder volume on the phone. The medium influences the communication itself (but don't get me started on McLuhan ;) So multiple tools can help achieve a certain dynamic that would not have happened just by using another feature inside a single service/construct. That's certainly been my experience on FriendFeed. - Micah Wittman

@Micah Wittman +1 - sofiagk

@Micah, Wouldn't Facebook count as multiple tools in itself. You can have a toolbox, that doesn't mean all of it's contents equal one tool. - Hugh Isaacs II

Well, I guess this is more of a Swiss Army knife, but the analogy still applies. - Hugh Isaacs II

Hugh, typically, the same culture/available resources produce stuff under a certain paradigm. - Micah Wittman

@Micah, I doubt they'd just stuff all of your social interactions under one blanket. - Hugh Isaacs II

They've already separated all of my friends by relation. - Hugh Isaacs II

I mean, look at FriendFeed, I used the Facebook Connect feature to log in, but I don't interact on here as I would with my friends - Hugh Isaacs II

The last post I see from Robert on his FB Fan page is June 4th. Being a fan on FB is certainly not the same as subscribing here. If you tried to post all these comments on FB, they would take up 4-5 times more screen space. Like others, I use FB for private family and friends, and FF for subscribing to other public feeds. I like the differences. - Keith Rowland

Facebook is just really cluttered, and it's UI looses focus on so many fronts. Take the start page - i've missed events, birthdays and other stuff because its burried with a million things on one page. But that's where the people are. I - Shawn Roos

Or you are SO wrong here. People pretend they are using it - then their wife asks - btw, honey, how did you create that fan page about me? And he says - WTF? :) - Sasha Kovaliov(.com)

Apostol, lol :) The idea is that usability could have been much-much better! Right now it's a total mess and there is a lot of room for improvement. Yes, people use it everyday, but do they use all of it? - Sasha Kovaliov(.com)

@Sasha, do you use all of FriendFeed? (Example: Last.Fm, Brightkite, desktop notifications, google talk integration, etc...) - Hugh Isaacs II

Then why use people not using all of Facebook as an argument? - Hugh Isaacs II from iPod

FB is not unusable, but it is bloated. Tough to set things up the way that I want. Too many new toys/apps popping up almost in every second. I'm tired of hiding this, hiding that from the feeds - ilter

It's still pretty simple and pleasant to use provided you don't install any applications IMO :P. - James Stephenson

James: what about not being able to stop some favorite friends from installing any applications? :) - ilter

ilter: Ummm ... I guess you could start selecting your friends based on their Facebook Applications :P? That would be a sad, sad day... - James Stephenson

Maybe we need a seperate facebook application. Wait... are there ANY facebook desktop applications? AIR-free preferred (for now) :) - ilter

Throws a sheep at Robert. - Mark Davidson from BuddyFeed

Hat tip to this discussion and to @Hugh Isaacs II - I explain my point on facents and identities better here http://www.digital-era.org/renditi... (I know this is a shameless plug - Robert fee free to delete, I just thought it is relevant) - sofiagk

@sofiagk, I read your blog post and understand your argument but the same rule still stands. You only have one body. As with the friend list feature on Facebook you have social barriers that keep some people away from what others may see. I know it sounds foolish to push all of your social interactions under one service, but if that service can recreate the same personas you use in real life, the only argument against it would be ease of use, comfort and bugs. - Hugh Isaacs II

@Hugh Isaacs II with you all the way if we can find some way to meaningfuly separate functions and feeds - to actually control what info we send to whom. - sofiagk

@sofiagk, that's what I've been getting at this whole time. I mean I know Facebook in it's current state doesn't do a great job of controlling who sees what, but I'm sure they've been working on that. The FriendFeed acquisition is probably to cater to that. - Hugh Isaacs II

Facebook has lots of usability issue. For example, they hid all the apps in that ridiculous bottom toolbar making them less accessible. It took me a while to find that my events are now there... If you want to do anything a bit more advanced than the basic functions then you'll probably lost without their help site (took me a while to figure out how to set permissions to different groups... ). Facebook should be way easier to use... - Eran Kampf

@Eran, Windows does the same thing. Hides all of the apps in that ridiculous bottom toolbar. ^_^ - Hugh Isaacs II

scobble: it's close to unusable. - Gal Granov גל גרנוב

If its so good and usable... why do you use FriendFeed\Twitter? - Eran Kampf

@Eran, Facebook doesn't let me hold public conversations like the one we're currently having (which I think is bound to change). - Hugh Isaacs II

It's not unusable... it's TOO usable. Too easily gamed by spam apps, too visible to employers who want to block it, too easy for advertisers to target your feed and use your stuff. And way, way too cluttered. It's like the boardwalk in Atlantic City... I avoid it if I can but every so often I make the mistake of going and find that it hasn't changed. Friendfeed on the other hand has none of the crap, while it does have a boatload of interesting, engaged people. - Jim in Real Time

well said Jim.... +1 - Kim

++++jim - BEX from iPhone

I totally (!) agree with Jim *thumbs up* - Ronald

@Jim, you know you can actually filter out the applications from your view, even keep them from posting on your wall. - Hugh Isaacs II

You are spot on, Robert. The proof is in the pudding. - thinkQuick

Hugh... yes, I know. But while facebook is very easy to begin using it requires a fair amount of effort to set up all that stuff and get the look/feel you want. For all the talk I've heard about how Friendfeed is difficult to figure out, I've never had that problem here. - Jim in Real Time

@Jim, yea but FriendFeed is a very young website. I'm not content just knowing that I can't filter out which of my friends can see what. If FriendFeed lasted longer it would've probably gotten more complex and you would've lost interest, or it would've stayed the same and you would've lost interest. Either way judging from your comment I think you would've moved on to something new at some point (this is Facebooks attempt at being relevant to you). - Hugh Isaacs II

Hugh... I guess you missed the part of my comment that spoke about interesting, engaged people. I will not be losing interest in them anytime soon. In fact, I've been (and still am) on facebook longer than I've been here. I've never been that interested in facebook and still am not. It was just the opposite on FF. I was skeptical and used it very little at first but as the service (for... more... - Jim in Real Time

Slow... Bogged down with apps... And who wants to refresh a page or discussion manually? Although it does allow me to stay connected with people I would have otherwise lost touch with. - Walt Ruppar from iPhone

@Walt, Facebook + Realtime experts = Facebook in Realtime. It's an assumption but not one without merit. - Hugh Isaacs II

Good to connect with friends of friends but do not like the stupid apps - Randy Allen Bishop

people who barely know the net are ALL on facebook. you know what i would like? friend group settings. think about it. post photos to your personal group, your online friends or something else entirely. and WHO KNOWS - with the smart people working for the boogie men, it might happen too! - Terry O'Fee

@Hugh yes I know it is coming... Just wanted to share my top three issues with #facebook and why I use it to help this wonderful R&D discussion... :) - Walt Ruppar from iPhone

I think Facebook is perfectly usable. I just can't use it for the same sort of things. Honestly, most people think Facebook is unusable because of all the applications that their friends use, and which those people are too lazy to block. There are some legit problems though, like the quiz applications which, literally, make new applications, so that they show up and you have to block... more... - Otto

Logging into Facebook means a 10-12 minute commitment just to catch up on a half-day's worth of communication. By contrast, I can get in and out of Twitter or Friendfeed in a minute or two if that's all I have. Facebook is just...heavy. - Ed Moltzen

I know people that work at Facebook. They're good people. But I have serious doubts about their abilities to make an interface that doesn't totally suck. Face facts, Facebook's interface absolutely blows. It is very difficult to do anything that you actually need to do. A good friend of mine is a teacher, and she stopped using Facebook because she didn't want to reject her students on... more... - Otto

I think FB is/has reached a level of importance as SOFTWARE that there needs to be detailed guides/documentation/tutorials. Think about it, most of FB's functionality is simply put out there for people to discover. When you sign up you aren't introduced to a 1/4 of what is available or provided any kind of best practices guidance. Software we buy for our systems generally comes with some type of manual or instruction. Most webapps like FB do not, you have to go to the community or hunt through the interface - Martin Johnson

It's not unusable but it is quite a challenge to new users. I wrote this post about how Twitter is the gateway drug to social networking. http://blog.adam-jackson.net/2009... - Adam Jackson

I may have to have two accounts on FB, one private and one public - outofmyarse

It might come as a shock to the designers out there but usability is not the most important aspect of an application. Facebook's success in the face of its sucky usability proves that. People are on facebook, and other on-line social networks, because they want to interact with the other members, not because of usability. - sjjh

Unnecessary to chew gum. But it's called billion dolar industry. - Burçak Çubukçu

The selling point of friendfeed is that it's a social interface utterly different from facebook. The default is open, shareable, aggregrates, and the UI isn't overridden with crud. - Mark Essel

there are more stranger things that people do, not everything could be explained, asked a wrong question. like say if there aren't any ghosts why more than half the world believe, if there is any god or isn't why are people theist/atheist. why men cut their hair both head/facial when they are there for sexual and heat exchange purposes at first places, you asked it out of your sentiment for facebook and i wrote it because i don't like facebook ;) - testbeta

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