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Robert Scoble
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Dana VanDen Heuvel
RT @TheSalesWarlord: Create 52 declarative statements about you, your idea, business... Its a GREAT way to create an autoresponder series!
Leo Laporte
I left Twitter for Jaiku. Then Jaiku left me for Google. I moved in with Pownce but it died. I went back to Twitter, but flirted with Plurk, Identica, and Rejaw, and even tried doing it myself with Laconica but it was Twitter I really loved. Twitter finally broke my heart so I left it for Friendfeed. Now Friendfeed is leaving me for Facebook. No...
It's like the internet version of Days of Our Lives - Jon, the Beartato of FF
HAHAHAHAHA.... - David from IM
Haha. ROFL - Roberto Bonini
is friendfeed going anywhere or will it just get better? - Craig Shipp
I'm with you Leo. - Oracio
It reads better than Soap - my roadmap is very similar but I'll forgive FF and live happily ever after with it (for the time being, anyway) - Nicholas Paul Gordon from iPhone
You're the best Leo. Canadians are the funniest people. - Dan Lessard
I'm betting they'll slowly digest it into the Facebook news feed. They claim that Friendfeed is staying put for now, but that won't last. - Ken Bauer
And we keep following Leo all over the place! - Robert Scoble
Long live Leo - Randy Pollock
When will we all get in a long term relationship and stop getting our hearts broken? - Nate Pilling
so what is more important, the medium or the people, hope that FF will let us export our content, and our social netork :) (in my wild dreams) - abdellah
Need ice cream? I'm new to FF, and kind of sad I didn't jump on the proverbial wagon sooner! - Elizabeth K. Barone
Feels to me like maybe it's time to go back to building a distributed network, rather than hopping from service to service. - Ken Sheppardson
I hope you leave your standard breadcrumbs so we can find you in the next chapter of social interaction. - jcunwired
But where to next? That's the question. Wave sounds great, but the implementation will be a PAIN. So where? Oh LeoMoses...where is our path in the desert? - ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Sounds like a hurtin' country song in the making. - Bill Rodman
The wave of the future is wave - Randy Pollock
Well you can't say that what is happening in the 'social sphere' is boring by any means! - Matt Cassem
I think Leo's audience is more likely to click "Like" or "comment" than Scoble's is. When Leo and Rob are both posting on FF, Leo gets more likes and comments - Mark
Didn't you leave a post earlier saying how funny it was that people complain anytime there's a change (referring to the FF buyout)? This sounds like a complaint to me. - Fleagle
Not complaining - just thinking about the future. I think a little Friendfeed DNA will vastly improve Facebook. And I think Facebook is already the big winner with the general populace. I also think we geeks need a corner somewhere else to hang out in. - Leo Laporte
And I have no plans to leave Friendfeed. Yet. - Leo Laporte
Yet being the operative word..... - Roberto Bonini
sounds like a country song to me - gavin
As for this geeky alternative, http://a.tinythread.com/ just showed up in my feed this morning. Thoughts? - Craig B.
I feel more of a personal connection with the FriendFeed team than I have with other services I've left, and that will be a big part of why I will stay as long as possible. - Louis Gray
^^^ replace "team" with "community" and there's my reason for sticking it out. - jcunwired
Its also going to take a very long time to go through content and bookmark/store it elsewhere. Evernote is going to be used heavily in the weeks to come. - jcunwired
The only way to have control is to use your own URL - Craig Shipp
Wait till you meet Facebook's randy cousin Overly Friendly Book =) - Cynthia Yildirim
what Louis gray said. I'm going to hang around until the lights go out. - Jordan Brock from BuddyFeed
What they said, I don't see any reason to leave FriendFeed unless something actually changes that makes the service worthless to me. - Craig B.
And many times you cheated Twitter, she was always loyal to you. Thats mean someting! - Jacque from f2p
yup me too Louis and I don't know any of them - Thomas Power
Plurk's not worth leaving anyone for. - Rachel R.
Leo, I think you need to change your FaceFeed status to "It's Complicated" ;) - Daynah
Play this thread off, keyboard cat. - Fleagle
You have to go back to your blog. It still loves you Leo. - Dave Winer
Screw you, Friendfeed! - Andrew Leahey
Users today are investors too - only the 'exit' for us is not lucrative.... its the other way sometimes :) - Mrinal Desai
I just had the idea: wow, how good will Faceboook become though this input? (JUST imagine tagging ppl in FB the way U can Tag them in FF.) - oliver gassner
Love Stinks. - shelter watch
I'm quite surprised that you could keep track of all that! - Robert Alex
Leo Laporte listed his relationship as: "its complicated." - Randy Shapiro
Damn thats complicated - drmacintosh
Don't worry Leo, its not you, its them... - Steven McGurn
so where do we go now? - Brian Appleby
I agree with Jonathan Hardesty "It's like the internet version of Days of Our Lives" - And sites keep getting killed off only to come back to life a month later! - Amy Flynn
very true, however on the other hand, we are getting closer to that one service which everyone will be on... and I dont think twitter is going to be that one - Bryce Campbell
Facebook buying FriendFeed is like having to MOVE just when you got your house all dressed up and made into a comfy HOME! I don't feel like doing it again! - Arleen Anderson
Now that Facebook and Friendfeed have married, I'm waiting for Twitfacefeedplebospacening. - Anthony Marco
You all just have ants in your pants :) - Jeunelle Foster
Leo, u by your self made two companies (services) out of 3 famous and made Google interested enough to buy 2 of them (Jaiku & FF). Google also tried to flirt with Twitter as well. So which one u choose now? Cause we will follow u :P - Sam Ehsan
Sounds like some of my past love affairs. Of course, I'm married now. That, um, was prior. - Paul Chaney
lmfao, its so true leo, so true! - Derek Bender
Feeling a bit worn around the edges? ... me too! - Susan Beebe from iPhone
Speaking of Days Of Our Lives: Didn't that show jump the shark when the serial killer was unmasked as Marlena (a character I used to have a mad crush on, and who's now mostly a professional victim)? Then all the "killed" characters came back to life, since they were only what I call "soap opera dead"... - Dennis Jernberg
And if everyone follows you, then your all having affairs all over the place! LOL - Sandra Large
I think it's back to the TWiT Army! - Paul Salzman
It's not like we have proposed Healthcare reform, or anything really important, going on in the U.S.A. - Steve de Mena
it's getting ridiculous, FEDERATED is the word! - Dobromir Hadzhiev
who is actually leaving FF? have many people vowed to do so yet? I'd like to but there isn't any alternative. - Denise Young
the joys and sorrows of everyday social IT folks... :-) - Thomas Lee
People are talking a lot about Streamy today. Might be an alternative. - Caio Cesar
Streamy seems to be crashing left & right tho. - Rick Cogley
Not to mention Pownce was shutdown as soon as it got good! - Kenneth Reitz
No mention of Microsoft Vine? - Robert MacEwan
yep. welcome to another episode of; As the Stomach Turns. one big soap opera. - Scratch5150
I've decided I'm not going to tell ANYONE which site I'm favoring... not even myself! I swear! As soon as I decided that FF was my new place (a couple months ago) THIS happens! It's like magic, but in a bad bad way... - Mark Jepsen
Why do we all assume this is a bad thing? Maybe the FF Facebook combo will be better?? - Craig Shipp
Maybe they'll keep both open -- FF is the open side, and FB is the closed side. - John Flinchbaugh from IM
Social Networks are sluts? - TheDiva Rockin
It sure is. - Jason Hill
I know exactly how you feel. What's a person to do? I am mad at Twitter for suspending some of my accounts. First, the accounts kept causing the password to reset, then they were suspended, all around the time of the DOS attacks. All I ever used Twitter for was to advertise my businesses, and for fun. Now I don't know where to go. - DogPatch
Here's some thoughts on what's going to happen:http://kennethreitz.com/blog... - Kenneth Reitz
It's like my beloved Archie comics romantic twists from childhood! Archie loves Veronica who loves Reggie who loves Betty who loves Archie... ;) - Shawn Zehnder Lea
More like "As the worm churns" - Houseofmax
한글 와서~ 루거 .. 당신은 정말 잘 생기고있다 누드 사진 기다리다 :] - HealingBrush
One of the funniest sad stories I've heard in a long time... - Aviva Gabriel
Gotta find one who is a lady in public and a whore in the bedroom. One who looks like a woman, but thinks like a man. One who tells you you're the only person in their world and worships the ground you walk on. One who's from Venus but want's to live on Mars. One who you know will always be there even when the chips are down. One who looks like a movie star, but doesn't bust the credit... more... - Jan Simmonds
I think a lot of people LOVE to think negatively and don't want to think positively. They think FB is BAD and will ruin FF, but I think if they do it well, FB won't be the bad guy. I think most people who are irked about this are irked because they think the FFers "sold out" to the "man". - Mol, Time Warping
@Mollyanna - I disagree. I am irked because the future of FF is completely uncertain. It's more likely that FB will let FF flounder and close it down than it is that FB will invest time and resources in maintaining and enhancing FF. FB has other interests and is splitting up the FF dev team. That does not bode well for FF. I don't begrudge the FF devs for taking the money. I would be... more... - Her Lindsay-ness
Leo, I hope you mention FriendFeed in your Dubai TED talk ! :) I'll try to be there ! - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
@Jan You're an asshat. - Ian Wright from BuddyFeed
leo, check out Streamy.com. I'm actually commenting to friendfeed from there right now...you may like it better. - Casey Petersen
looooool =)) - amin.m
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that was cute! :O) - Jeanne
@ian - "Wordsmith. Public relations undergraduate at The University of Texas. Feminist Capitalist. WordPress geek. Future commercial rights attorney"...surely that kind of asinine comment is beneath you! - Jan Simmonds
Maybe they're just not that into you. - Elizabeth Johnson
Wait... who's on first? - Michael Rosenau
Logged in to suggest that many of us have tridden a similar path, but a lot of people have beaten me to it! I miss Pownce - SpionKopRed
wow, Leo. You've got relationship issues! - Justin Bradshaw
there there, Shawny's here... - sofarsoShawn
I sense a pattern here.. maybe you always seem to go after web2.0 services that are bent on ditching you :) - Shivanand Velmurugan
Bwana ☠
"FF connected me with new friends that I would never have known. FB connects me with old friends I could have done without. :(" - jcunwired http://friendfeed.com/jcunwir...
Exactly - Shevonne
The best comment I've heard today! - Bonnie Foster
its actually quite easy to ignore someone you could have done without. *sigh* - Sidney
Wow. Some of you apparently live terrible lives, filled with terrible people you seem unable to avoid, with the possible exception of this one website, I feel terrible about that.Of course, it's also possible you've wildly overestimated the difference between the people you know here and the people who know you in real life. - Richard Lawler
Or it could be, you're wrong. - Bwana ☠
Nope, you're the ones who keep saying everyone you know and everything you do on facebook sucks. That must be terrible. - Richard Lawler
Yes Richard because clearly I can make friends from all over the world on my daily stroll through the park. Or not. - vijay
Richard: That there's a possible incompatibility between networks centered around personal relationships -- or at least people you've physically encountered -- and networks based largely on interests, seems pretty clear to me. - Christopher A Carr
Yes, it's confirmed. You're wrong. - Bwana ☠
bingo - Jim Goldstein
My life wouldn't be the same without vijay - Rodfather
If everyone you've physically encountered sucks, the problem just might be you. - Richard Lawler
Hear, hear. This news sucks. - Adi
Oh Lord....not this guy :) - Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
Richard: I suppose there's nothing stopping you from deleting your ff account now and heading on over to Facebook full-time. - Christopher A Carr
I like this post, but I love all my social networks equally lol. - Ryan Peach
Luckily, unlike so many here, I can keep using any website I want the same way I did before without devolving into a baseless bitchfest about what might happen someday somewhere. Or, I could have kneejerk reaction based on irrational fear. hmmm - Richard Lawler
And you're very good at keeping your assumptions to yourself - Bwana ☠
Richard: Were friendfeed to say that it's going to survive, or at least that FB will have a more open, public facing side to it as a result of the acquisition, then I think the bitching would subside. As it stands, there's not much reason to think that anything of friendfeed will survive. If Facebook perfectly met everyone's needs, there would be no friendfeed. - Christopher A Carr
On the bright side, I can have a kneejerk reaction on FB and remove baseless bitches from my friends list. :) - jcunwired
Except, they haven't really said anything. So thinking anything will or won't survive is premature. If Facebook perfectly met everyone's expectations there would be no need for war, sickness or evil deeds. Every online community is the same as every other one, if friendfeed, for whatever reason, doesn't keep doing what you want ti to do, you'll use something else. It hasn't ever been perfect and it never will be. - Richard Lawler
I told you Richard. You're wrong. "Taylor and Cox say that the Friendfeed product will live on independently, and eventually Friendfeed will be merged into Facebook. But the Friendfeed team is not being kept whole. Some employees will now report to Cox, others to engineering head Mike Schroepfer. In my opinion that means, long term, the Friendfeed product itself is unlikely to be a big priority." http://www.techcrunch.com/2009... - Bwana ☠
Well, you told me what techcrunch's opinion is, because that's what I wanted to know. Thanks! (there's sarcasm there) - Richard Lawler
Ok let me slow it down for you. The team is splitting. The product is going to merge with Facebook. (No sarcasm) - Bwana ☠
Richard: "Every online community is the same as every other one..." That's nonsense. - Christopher A Carr
I can wholly identify with JC's statement. - JA Castillo
Wow Bwana...you are really bitchy in this thread...I think Richard is making some good points. If you are having issues with the people you 'accept' on Facebook there really is only one person who you can point the finger. You. Facebook makes it quite easy to NOT get involved with any person. - Sidney
Thanks. Appreciate the feedback. - Bwana ☠
I accept friends in Facebook because if they took the time to want to be friends with me, I feel obligated. I'm also not one to hurt a person's feelings by turning them down. That's what its like in a closed community like Facebook. Friendfeed is totally open - I can read, share, participate and like without having any obligation whatsoever to the people I interact with. - jcunwired
Sidney - Refusing to see that there is a clear difference between the people and the atmosphere of Facebookers and Friendfeeders is either foolishness or stubbornness. There is a world in facebook, full of garbage, that people think is "ok" because it evolved from other crap. - Matthew DeVries
Same here. Wisely said! - Nia
You are probably right. I am checking things out only now - AbZ from Nambu
There is the matter of censorship too. You really have to post some very illegal crap before FF will step in a mod it. Facebook bounces you for saying breastfeeding. - Matthew DeVries
I couldn't have put it better myself. Just got back and saw the news. Still digesting it. - Charlie Anzman
Well said guys! - Susan Beebe
Actually, I love most of my Facebook friends, or I wouldn't have (re)connected. But FF is a different community. - Glen Campbell
Dont twitter groups achieve a similar effect? - AbZ from Nambu
I like Facebook friends, I don't like that think it's ok to kidnap me, poke me, or ask me what Fantana girl I'm most like. I don't like that they think I'm the misanthropic curmudgeon with the problem when I ask them not to "It's what Facebook is for" - Matthew DeVries
LOL - Thomas Power
It's interesting to see ho people use different networking sites - for example - I use FB for personal connections and family and the rest are business related. - Graham Bunting
I like my friends, but you are definently right. I just got on friendfeed any advice on making friends? - Ryan Peach
Smart! - Martha
Great insight! - William Phillips
l0ckergn0me
Heh. I have a MessagePad 120 somewhere, I should dig it out. - DGentry
Awesome. We love Technology. - mp3WatchWorld
coincidence: i took this just 3 days ago - side-by-side w/ an hp ipaq h5555 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3423... my ibm workpad pc companion (palm iii in black) was missing. otherwise i would've taken a side-by-side w/it too. :) - sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
Louis Gray
Reminder: The Five Stages Of Early Adopter Behavior (See Stage 4: Entitlement) - http://louisgray.com/live...
Reminder: The Five Stages Of Early Adopter Behavior (See Stage 4: Entitlement)
"At this point, often in part due to favorable feedback from the service's authors, the early adopter feels a sense of entitlement, that the product absolutely must be architected in the way they say so, even if to move in that direction wouldn't serve the larger installed base. Now, instead of suggesting quick ways the service could update, the calls are more like ultimatums, and if not quickly seeing a response, the early adopter can get extremely frustrated, at times, seeing this annoyance bubble up to the same degree their first comments on the product reeked of praise." - Louis Gray from Bookmarklet
Re: This. http://friendfeed.com/scoblei... The feedback is predictable. - Louis Gray
I get the feeling the Robert has jumped the shark a little bit here. I hope he apologizes to Kevin for his uncalled for ad hominem. - Brian Sullivan
This is great, but I think it ALSO applies to less than diplomatic responses from early adopters that I go back to Twitter, ha. I don't take it personally, but your point is a nice reminder that it is not about me. - Liza
science. - Josh Haley from iPhone
I may be the only early adopter that doesn't feel entitled to anything - Bwana ☠
Then again, I'm not your average human - Bwana ☠
Ever since I posted this, I'm self-aware about potentially slipping from a 3 to a 4, so I think twice about posting criticism without knowing the deciding factors. - Louis Gray
I for one am appreciative of evangelists especially ones that are willing to reevaluate their perspective, tech or otherwise. - Eric Logan
Hah! Looking in mirror. Seeing egg on face. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
I feel entitled to type in this box and push the button named "comment." Sorry, I thought that was what FriendFeed was designed for. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
I don't know that entitlement is the right word. For me, at least, it's more frustration. Here you have this great product. I want more people to know about it, but I'm having issues, be it my tech, user error or just loss of features, it's frustrating. If I'm having these issues, then there's no way I'll be able to explain to my friends and family why things are why they are. When you... more... - Anika
One point to the one above. I know that many companies who offer free service will or should charge for use at some point. I'm okay with that, but when they mess with functionality it's hard to justify paying for it. When your users are asking for the same thing over and over again, especially when you're in beta, don't give them a useless feature that offers nothing much to usability. At that point, it's hard to justify the ongoing use of something, let alone paying for it in the future. - Anika
Is it entitlement or ownership? People support what they help build, right? So maybe it is partly a sense of ownership... - Liza
Great conversation thread... Rule #1 if you do not own it, then do not falsely allow yourself to believe your vote will ever - or should ever - count. Sometimes the developers listen to your sound words of device, but in my humble findings often this waxes and wanes. Rule #2 is that step 5 is your alternative. Rule #3 is always see Rule #1 when you begin to think your opinion matters ;-) - Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
Robert. No harm, no foul. :) I'm just glad I wrote this one already last year, so I don't have to do it again. - Louis Gray
its a pretty graph and perhaps it is true, i have experienced it myself through mmos, beta testing, but did you actually have numbers or is this just instinct? - Robert Higgins
By the way, I'm ACTIVELY still in the promotion phase. I'm showing FriendFeed to EVERYONE as everyone I met in Boulder last week can attest to. That's one thing that Louis' graph doesn't understand. I go through all of these phases IN PARALLEL. Not serially. So, deal with it. :-) - Robert Scoble
The graph is simple. People are not simple. :) The downside to acting like a #4 is dorks looking for an excuse tend to use it as an excuse. Just wait. (Not even Scoble likes FriendFeed any more... he says... "x") So don't give the bastards any ammo. :) - Louis Gray
Louis what is the oldest service that you still use that you didn't migrate from and why? - Robert Higgins
Interestingly, those seeking to distill life into simplistic terms can be dangerous. Like those dorks who spout off non-sensical rules ;-) - Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
I do think it is used as ammo, which stinks, b/c a discussion we should have (UI on FF) becomes a territorial battle. There were great points made, but also a lot of juvenile comments which I hope are ignored. As I learned in my first online attack, "don't feed the trolls". They are everywhere and not unique to specific networks. - Liza
for me the oldest service i still use is hotmail. - Robert Higgins
Robert: you didn't ask me, but I'll answer anyway: Outlook/Exchange. Although that has changed a lot over the years but I first started using whatever Microsoft called it (MSMail?) back in 1993. Regarding newer web services? Flickr. Wordpress. Google Reader are probably the ones that have had the longest staying power. - Robert Scoble
Louis: yeah, but if I worried about what dorks think I would just stay off the Internet. :-) - Robert Scoble
thought about why and the stages of the graph. while i still use hotmail, for family and things i have migrated to gmail mostly. I personally never did step 4 with hotmail, but i did get buddies on it a long time ago before they even had their own computers. It was cool to promote hotmail and messenger in the 90's felt hip to chat with people in China when I lived in USA. I still like sky-drive for the free 25 gigabytes of online storage, so will probably never migrate. - Robert Higgins
Robert, I still use .Mac mail, and have for a very long time. (Some day I may move to GMail, but not yet). I have stuck with Mac OS through all its iterations from System 6 or so, so I assume that counts. I've been on FriendFeed longer than Twitter, and Facebook longer than FriendFeed and Google Reader longer than Facebook. - Louis Gray
thats interesting, but in term of early adopter and stages where are you now with Mac OS for example. - Robert Higgins
I would say Stage 3 with Mac OS. I don't feel like they need to change anything to reward me for my loyalty. I've never been a Stage 2 user for Twitter, so I hang out in Stage 3 or 4, it's just a utility, as is Facebook. I am Stage 2 and 3 with FriendFeed and Google Reader. I will always push FriendFeed and Google Reader, even if I know they could improve, because I get great value from both and trust the teams. - Louis Gray
Louis: I was through all five stages with the MacOS by 1993. Started over again in 2003. Heheh. I forgot that I still use Hotmail and have for a long time (I remember waiting in line for StarWars #4 overnight with the Hotmail founders and thinking they were pretty cool). - Robert Scoble
you are such a geek scoble waiting in line overnight for Star Wars #4 with hotmail founder - Robert Higgins
Robert: that is true, but, as waiting overnight for the iPhone proved, the line itself was more fun than seeing the movie or getting the phone. In Silicon Valley these things turn into impromptu barcamps. Several companies had tents and it was an all-night party. My son did both with us and they were among the best things I've ever done with him. Good bonding time. :-) - Robert Scoble
Higgins: if I remember right one company even paid for a T-1 line so they could provide wifi to everyone. In Silicon Valley we take these things seriously! :-) - Robert Scoble
Nice bell curve, this typically represents most things - I can be in different stages at different times! - for example - different features of the product (ie I can discover a feature, then promote, etc). Not sure about Migration phase, I would prefer to call it Withdrawal - Geer
I think this post was bad form. I have experienced the same problems with admiring the power and brilliance of the features and simultaneously being confused by their counter intuitiveness. In any case if the graph is accurate Robert's activity would have already slowed and will continue to slow down until migration. The bad form is explicitly referencing Robert. - Ru Viljoen
Ru: thank you. Truth is in just the past week I was in all five phases of FriendFeed and even Twitter. I never liked this post by Louis' even though there's some truth to it and I'm still trying to figure out why. - Robert Scoble
It's a post more human behavior centric than tech focused. Of course i'm interested in HB and how the brain works. I object to the generalization. We all have unique patterns of usage. There are probably hundreds of tools I use a day and am unaware of - Mark Essel from iPhone
Ru, I know FriendFeed is not perfect. But pound for pound, they have the best talent in the business. I also read and enjoyed the exchange in Robert's piece, but didn't "like" it, as he says he didn't this one. Robert and I have a long history of agreeing 95% of the time, and have a mutual respect that lets us exchange ideas this way. I personally would not have approached the issues in the way he did, explicitly referencing Kevin, for example. - Louis Gray
Louis: Kevin runs design at FriendFeed and he's a guy I've judged that is able to take a huge amount of criticism (earned or unearned) and keep his cool and tell you why he's doing what he's doing. Like you said, they have the best talent in the business. Kevin proved it again yesterday. - Robert Scoble
My 2 cents about FriendFeed interface design: Overloading/hiding of controls is often used to present a simpler UI. It's difficult to find a balance, and often testing things on novice users is better than on veteran users to get a fresh response. One difficult example (which I don't know if I could improve) is Canon's cameras (of which I've used 4 cameras). Canon had a standard way of... more... - Mitchell Tsai
Sometimes interface design can be complicated with people at various stages of behavior. Yahoo! tried to change their interface after a few years and got a "New Coke" response (e.g. focus groups, testing, etc... before release). The new interface worked better & made more sense, but they got 1,000s of e-mail complaints from older experienced users - ended up staying with the old... more... - Mitchell Tsai
Oldest services I still use: MS-DOS (1981), Unix (1982), Mac OS (1984), MS Word (1984), MS Excel (1985), MS Powerpoint (1987), MS Windows (1987), HTML (1993), Yahoo! (1995), PriceWatch (1995), Post.Harvard.edu (1995), Slashdot (1996), MapQuest (1996), Google (1997), Amazon (1998), MS Outlook (1998), Internet Explorer (1998), PriceGrabber (1999), SECInfo (2000), Network Solutions (2000),... more... - Mitchell Tsai
Goodness me Mitchell - Thomas Power
Indeed. Outlook 98 is the devil :) - Roberto Bonini
Thomas - It's interesting to see what "stands the test of time". Used HotBot for search 1996-2000, but Google's cache won me. MS Multiplan was my 1st spreadsheet (not a Lotus 1-2-3 fan), but Excel beat out many better spreadsheets. MS Outlook won me with color e-mails, shared calendars, & event coordination. Google Maps still hasn't beat MapQuest IMO. I'm still resistant to using GMail... more... - Mitchell Tsai
Considering I'm on stage 4 right now, I wonder how much I stand to make from the sale of Friendfeed? - Andrew Smith
Louis, Robert: It makes sense to me that a service would be forced to field speculative criticism and that the criticism should be answered on the merits of the argument. In this instance I thought that Robert insightfully pointed out the problem with the UI and then must have been totally side swiped by an unrelated personal criticism from someone who is well regarded. I hate to see... more... - Ru Viljoen
It's Interesting that you posted this last night, before the friendfeed/FaceBook announcement! Good intuition! - Michael Fidler
Louis Gray
Re: Twitter’s platform shortcomings - http://scobleizer.com/2009...
"I know my comment on ff.im sounds silly, but I've gotten to know the FriendFeed team over the last two years, and I believe I trust them with my data. I trust them to make the right long-term decision for things like the URL shortener, even in the chance their business was not a success." - Louis Gray
@louis , what do you mean by the last sentence?!! - abdellah
In context, I was asked why I thought ff.im would live in the remote chance FriendFeed would disappear. - Louis Gray
thank you for the explanation. - abdellah
@louis now after FB integrating FF, where is the money? - abdellah
Bankers get the money, silly! - Liza
Robert Scoble
Re: Twitter’s platform shortcomings - http://scobleizer.com/2009...
"Mark: I have, but I've learned by watching Leo Laporte (who is responsible for getting a lot of the early adopters onto Twitter in the first place) that people don't move easily once they've started pouring their life into something. I don't think there's anything Twitter can do now to slow its growth. Me neither. :-)" - Robert Scoble
The value of moving has to be greater than the value of staying. Or, the perceived lack of value of moving probably has to be greater than any irritations in staying. For example, if Twitter were constantly down to due to DDoS or constantly being spammed without any effective controls. - Justin Long
I guess I just have so much lower expectations from twitter and friendfeed and the like. Nothing is forever. - Phil Calvin
Justin: Twitter was constantly down in 2007 and 2008 and we didn't leave even though there were other (and some good, like Pownce) alternatives. I don't believe Twitter will be stopped, even by its own management (or lack thereof) at this point. So, they might as well keep treating developers and users like crap. - Robert Scoble
Robert, would you agree with my student Tam Chung's opinion on Twitter's imminent demise? http://tinyurl.com/l3y69l - Shari Weiss
I think you're wrong Robert, and I think you would have said the same thing about MySpace 5 years ago... all those scares about pedophiles, and STILL people just kept signing up -- until they didn't. - Joel Bennett
Shari: I still haven't been able to move away from Twitter and until that happens Tam is wrong. Even though Tam is right. :-) Looking forward to the day when I can leave Twitter behind. - Robert Scoble
@robert maybe in less then a year or two. I think that google voice have a lot to offer. - abdellah
Probably the small outages here and there weren't painful enough to cause people to leave. They just temporarily migrated. I would guess it would have to be a number of long significant outages. I think you're right, though. There's enough people on Twitter that I doubt it's going to fold. But I wonder how long they can run it with no income stream?? How do they monetize it? How do they pay for the servers etc? - Justin Long
Justin: I see a TON of ways to monetize. Heck, I'd pay for decent DMs. Flickr has proven I'll pay for search. I'd pay for a ton of features. And I see a TON of advertising models that could be used. - Robert Scoble
True, I guess I wasn't thinking this morning of professional features; I was wondering how they would do advertising. - Justin Long
i do wish they'd return the friend-of-a-friend replies to twitter though I also wish Friendfeed would do threaded discussions. and favoriting comments. - Justin Long
Bob Hitching
Todd, Chilli, Alvin: I've just posted a preview version 1.1.7 of Fresh From (http://wordpress.org/extend...), with a new admin option to overwrite the post title from the default 'Fresh From...' - let me know how you go with this and if it's all good I will push this version live to everyone.
Thanks for doing this, Bob!!! - Todd Lohenry
Thats a great step in the right direction. Can we have some more variables please regarding to http://ff.im/3QmTg (f.e. date and time)? - René Fischer
Robert Scoble
Explaining the Cloud | Davey Shafik (Interesting article about cloud computing). - http://daveyshafik.com/archive...
Robert: Going to add these links as a comment to that post, http://www.economist.com/special... - Mark Essel
thought this one was really interesting, and had to ask myself what will we learn from pirated clouds? Dark Cloud Computing: http://news.idg.no/cw... - Mark Essel
They key issue in the cloud dialog is people talk about the movement and the technologies as if they were one. The movement is the concept of simply not running computing in house anymore. Centralized, on demand computing is mature, at scale, and now feature rich. Building in house computing plants will be harder and harder to justify. Part of the what has advanced this movement... more... - lew
(jeff)isageek
Is there a way or could there be a way for this? when i click on the blog post title it just takes me to friendfeed....could we have it go to that post directly? i send my blog posts to twitter and when i click on the link in the tweet it just goes to my friendfeed page...i want it to go to my blog post. thanks!
Jen (SquirrelGirl)
Is the iPhone worth it to you? Or is it a better idea to keep a simpler cheaper cell phone for calls and buy an iPod Touch for it's apps? Any iPod Touch supporters out there? - http://www.iworthitappreviews.com/2009... (via http://friendfeed.com/squirre...)
Is the iPhone worth it to you? Or is it a better idea to keep a simpler cheaper cell phone for calls and buy an iPod Touch for it's apps? Any iPod Touch supporters out there? - http://www.iworthitappreviews.com/2009/05/09/compare-and-contrast-iphone-and-ipod-touch/ (via http://ff.im/3vKvf)
I love my iPod Touch, but I am planning on getting on an iPhone this summer. - RAPatton
The rate plans are worth it to you? - Jen (SquirrelGirl)
I got an I-pod touch free with my MBP, but really not worth the cost if you already want/use a cellphone. I mean it's more $ than the i-phone (with a contract) and you lose the phone part, along with the speakers and the camera. Love, love, love my i-phone though. - Kelly W.
With so many apps relying on location awareness, you can't really replicate the functionality with an iPod Touch. - Kevin Pedraja
I'm a big fan of convergence. I hardly ever use my phone compared to how much i use the apps but it's nice to have it all in one. Less to carry around. - ·[▪_▪]·
And yes, I do feel the rates are fine-both me and husband have a plan together and now have gotten rid of our home phone. - Kelly W.
I can see that, though I read somewhere that 90% of what is available for the iPhone works on the iTouch. Esp if you have wifi. - Jen (SquirrelGirl)
What ·[▪_▪]· said. - Derrick
I'm thinking if I did it, I could get away with the lowest rate plan.... especially considering everyone I know is on ATT. I don't really need the minutes. It would be about $30 more than what I'm paying now (a month). - Jen (SquirrelGirl)
I would love to have an IPhone but the price point of the data plan dont fit with my budget. And now days, with all wifi hotspot, I get a very good coverage ... I only miss the coverage in the car ! - Christian Farley
without any doubt at all, worth it - Zee.
I do not want either one, prefer a real keyboard.. - David Gross
I got an iPhone on a corporate affiliate plan so that I only had to pay $25/mo. on top of my existing low-minutes, no-data plan. If I had to take the $30/mo. on top for unlimited texts I wouldn't use it - I never text. - Daniel J. Pritchett
i use my iphone as an ipod touch (4 wifi use) + have a cheap mobile for calls. data plan just isn't worth it, especially with first gen iphones like mine. - Spotcher from twhirl
I used my free iPod Touch (came with wife's macbook) for almost a year before getting an iPhone and I really liked it. Sure it doesn't have the camera or gps or speakers or microphone but for couch surfing, games, and general entertainment apps (like Kindle) it can't be beat. - Daniel J. Pritchett
Don't have an iPhone or an iPod, Windows Mobile ftw! :D - Stuart Evans
buy a prepaid cell and get a Touch. use SMS and VOIP apps to stay in communication. iPhone phone packages is one of the biggest scams going. - Jason Rundell
Is SMS cheap where you come from? - Daniel J. Pritchett from IM
@Stuart Thats right! - Sweyn Venderbush
I had a touch for about a year before I grew tired of carrying both a cell and the touch. All I wanted was a touch that was also a phone. No data plan. I do like the data plan, but the total cost of ownership is not worth it - stretta from twhirl
+1 Stretta. While I used my touch more than I ever used my phone it is still quite nice not having the extra pocketful of geekery on me. All I carry now is the iPhone and my keys and my wallet. - Daniel J. Pritchett from IM
I've a touch. Cost of the unlimited data plans makes it ridiculous for the benefit that I'd get from it. - Rich
Rather have a good S60 phone, but AT&T isn't interested in offering me a good selection. - dthree
I find myself using the 3G data linkup on a daily basis. It's hard to claim that most of that is "value", but I do use it everywhere I go. - Daniel J. Pritchett from IM
I have an iPhone and an iPod touch. both come in handy. I like both, for different reasons. - Karoli
If the cost of the phone is putting you off, hold on until the new ones come out, then you maybe able to pick one up cheap from a friend who upgrades. Either that or eBay. Personally, I cannot live without my iPhone, best device I've ever bought. - Keith Bennett from BuddyFeed
I was thinking about whether Mifi + ipod touch = 95% of a Verizon iphone. With the Mifi, you'd have (sharable) wifi in your car, outside, etc. No location awareness, but most apps, skype, sms, etc. - dave burke
I love my iTouch and am tempted by the iPhone. But since I rarely leave the house I have a hard time justifying the cost of a plan. Sticking with my cheap cell phone for now. - Matt
I like the MiFi, but would mostly use it for my laptop. I make full use of my iPhone's features so it's well worth it for me. It also helps that the iPhone plan is still less than the data/call plan I had with my windows mobile phone. @Matt Yeah that's probably the best decision. It takes a certain usage to really make the iPhone (specifically the data plan) worth it. - Arlan Koizumi
It is *so* worth it for me. I already forgot what life was like w/out it. *shudder* ;) - felix
The iPhone is pretty compelling. @Daniel - I rarely text. Though I'm wondering if that would change if I had an easier way to do it. - Jen (SquirrelGirl)
I hardly ever text myself, I was just trying to figure out why Jason Rundell thought SMS plus a prepaid phone was a good idea. It sounded like maybe his texts aren't expensive like mine are. - Daniel J. Pritchett
For me, the iPhone is totally worth it. The Touch's lack of GPS is a deal-breaker for me, and if you don't live in a large metro area, relying solely on WiFi isn't viable. - Roger Benningfield
I love having my ipod touch, and my HTC touch on VZW. Having both lets me have the best of both worlds. - Mitchell Hislop
I am mostly ok with my iPod Touch. There are times though when I miss the Camera+GPS of iPhone. But OTOH, I need the 32 GB that I could get only on Touch. Besides the cost of data plan is prohibitive for me. Of course lugging two devices is a minor pain too. - Vinay | विनय
Personally, my iPod touch is enough, but no mic or camera is a pain sometimes for apps... otherwise it's great (I don't want to have to buy apple's headphones to get a microphone) - henry
I already have a sweet phone/data plan (too low to mention ;-)) and i would never sign a new contract just to get the iPhone cheaper. I sold my iPhone 3G and stick with G1 until the end of the year. By then, prices for unlocked new iPhones are down and perhaps i'll grab one. If i find more time to play some games again, maybe i'll get an iPod touch for summer fun... - Ralph
I went with iphone last month...I love it! having fun with apps - Malinda Routhier
This is gonna sound completely fanboyish, but I absolutely love it. It changed my expectation of mobile devices. I wouldn't trade it in for anything out there currently. - Joshua Schnell
not having internet access all over makes most iphone apps pointless. POINTLESS. - mjc
rumor has it $99 4gb phone soon. - mjc
@MJC - But some of us don't have the wonderful opportunity to have the great service that is AT&T. - Zach Flauaus
I <3 My IPHONE - BEX
I'd love to have an iPhone, but the pricing is outrageous in India. Close to US $800 for the 16GB model, not inclusive of monthly rental & usage. - Vijay
I love my iPod touch. Don't miss a crappy camera, already have a phone that has power even if I run down my iPod, and free WiFi's not hard to find. I agree that the lack of a GPS is a drag, though. I'm about ready to move to a smart phone, will consider the new iPhone, and the Palm Pre. - David Sky
iPhone v. Touch was an epic struggle for me. Ultimately, I went with the iPhone and haven't looked back. Many apps are not usable without a data connection and living life with one device has really simplified things for me. The iPhone is really my everything: phonebook, calendar, map, to do list, email, book reader, news outlet, etc. The phone works well enough and the camera is fine. My vote is to take the plunge and go for the iPhone, but wait until after WWDC. - David Imielski
Kol Tregaskes
"It’s widely known that China runs a pretty tight ship - to put it mildly - on what its citizens get to see online, especially that content which exists outside of China. YouTube has been blocked for some time and although Wikipedia was blocked for a while, it’s gradually become more available. However today Chinese authorities have come down like a tonne of bricks on a number of services including Twitter, Flickr, Bing, Live.com, Hotmail.com, Blogger and a number of other sites. And that’s no joke, given that we’re talking about the Great Wall of China here." - Kol Tregaskes from Bookmarklet
*dislike* - Michael W. May
Artificial constraints to prohibit access to information is inherently evil. - stretta from twhirl
and yet the template of the great firewall of china is being used to construct similar blocking schemes in Australia, various EU countries, Canada... Makes you think those in power consider the internet to be their biggest mistake in letting it slip out without their control for so long. - alphaxion
What does GFWd mean? - Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
GWF, GreatWall Fireware. - netvista
If you lie long enough, the lie will become the truth. - Hiro Asari
Now I truly know the origin of oppression. - Dv8thwonder
@stretta dictatorships are pretty damned evil too - Rudolf Olah
It's going to get interesting as more and more American business becomes dependent on Chinese resources to see if we start moving away from all of our freedom and democracy ranting in favor of selling 18 billion plasma screen TVs. Not that we should - but we really are a hypocritical society. When rights go head to head with capitalism, capitalism always wins. - Ciaoenrico
Our China and the "most favoured nation" status history already speaks to that, by a decade and a half. - Michael W. May
well ... if Tienanmen succeeded, and China disintegrated, split apart into waring mafia states, fate similar to Soviet Union, there probably wouldn't be $5 nice shirts, world prosperity and stability might have suffered another blow ... a couple groups of, yet nice meaning, students, just cannot rule 1+billion people ..China needs to keep democratizing slowly, rule of law needs to be there - Petr Buben
I wonder whether this "finger in the dike" will hold much longer. Other developing nations with more lenient policies may begin to eclipse them in economic growth. You can only succeed with fewer ideas than your competition for so long. - John Blossom
I was traveling in both India and China a couple of years ago and found more sites blocked in India than in Beijing. That surprised me. But hiding information is how governments control what the people know, and therefore what the majority believes. Important for us to remember here too! - amygeek
@Petr Buben, you can't turn a country democratic via the free market system. It just doesn't work. You can't do it slowly either because the ruling party there is in complete control and won't stand for it. You need bold actions. - Rudolf Olah
I guess the question is whether or not the censorship in a country effectively cuts a country off from business relations with the outside world. Is the free flow of ideas important enough for business, or is it possible for business to succeed under a tightly controlled information regime? - John E. Bredehoft
@Rudolf .. you EXACTLY turn and keep country democratic via the free market. free market /positively regulated, so that it stays free/, free private enterprise, reasonable personal freedoms, - no freedom of crime /much less kill, or be overly impolite/, free participation of all at proper democratic generated wealth distribution .......EVOLUTION, no violence, to me is better, more... more... - Petr Buben
when was a country turned democratic by free market alone? I don't see it happening. - Alejandro
what else do you suggest is needed? ../// what do you mean by "democratic" ? poor people without healthcare living under the bridges? - Petr Buben
by democratic I mean people being able to chose their representatives and everyone having the chance to become one. I don't see that happening unless they overthrow the current government. - Alejandro
Block the media or control the media; which tactic is more efficient? Do you really think the average "reality show" distracted American is any better informed than the average Chinese? Subtle deception works far better than ham-fisted blocks. - Alex Williams
google has been really slow here last couple weeks. images don't show etc. started about the same time plurk was blocked. but i've got a vpn running, so it's all good. just... slow. - samantha
Chilli
Is there any way to customize the title is uses for the posts?
I take that as a no.... - Chilli
Chilli: Not yet but never say never... can you be a bit more precise about which titles you'd like to change, and to what? Are you talking about digest posts or single posts? - Bob Hitching
I would just like to be able to change the title the plugin uses when making a blog post. I just want to be able to have the posts titled something like "Chiili's tweets for today" instead of "Fresh From Twitter". I dug around in the code some, but I'm really a noob when it comes to code. I would really appreciate an option to change this, or simply point me to the place in the code where I can customize this. Keep up the good work. It's always great when you can get direct feedback from a developer. - Chilli
I agree with Chilli! I'd like to be able to customize the title feed... - Todd Lohenry
Would be even better if you can at the date/ time in there. And also i like to change the category to whatever I like, is this possible? - sjdksjdk
Add me to the list of people that want to change the default title of "Fresh From Twitter ..." to something else. I'd also love to be able to change the tags. Finally, I'd like the permalink to be within my blog's domain rather than the original tweet. Thanks for the great plugin. - Alvin
VitreousHumor
Can I make the FreshFrom update post to a persistent page rather than to a new post that would automatically appear on my front page as a new story?
Carlos Alfaro
Hello, I really like your plugin, you did a great job. I do have one problem which is that the twitter feeds are not updating, I have to manually refresh the blog everytime to get the latest twitters. How can I fix this?
EricaJoy
Comments on Fresh From FriendFeed and Twitter v. 1.1.6
Still no configurable title or tags. Is this something that's not going to happen ever or is it just tricky to do? - EricaJoy
Erica, it's on the list (this Room == the list) but I guess the idea still needs to be fleshed out. Happy to hear future feature ideas from you and everyone. (Tags are better than categories because content can arrive via FF from an unknown number of sources) - Bob Hitching
I'm using tags for other reasons on FriendFeed so tags are good for me too. But my previous points still stand. For me I'd like importing from FF to blog (i.e. what Fresh From does) over exporting to FF from blog (basically what FF Comments plugin does). - Kol Tregaskes
I'd definitely like to have the ability to remove the new "powered by fresh from" link beneath each post (is that new?)... - Matt
Matt: the 'powered by' link should only be appearing once per page, not on every post, so I don't think it is really that obtrusive. Having said that, if enough people want an Admin option to switch it off, that's fair enough and it can go on The List. Let's see what the Room thinks... - Bob Hitching
I'd like to be able to remove the 'fresh from friendfeed;' from the title. I use twitterfeed to push my rss feed from the blog to twitter. Those extra words take up a lot of real estate in a tweet. Great work, Bob... - Todd Lohenry
First off I wanted to say how great the plugin is, I tried a few before settling on this one. One question I had was about the RSS feed. On my mai website I pull the RSS from wordpress where I have Fresh combine into a single service (set on keep it coming). When the site pulls the RSS feed, the headline doesn't link to the post of my blog that Fresh created but the twitter account of whoever posted last. So sometimes it will be my twitter profile or a friends. Can this be changed/fixed? - Brian Chalfin
johnpiercy
The Iphone Stone ,, heheheheheheheh
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only one difference - honkin
Jay
Remember The Milk: Online to do list and task management - http://www.rememberthemilk.com/
Remember The Milk: Online to do list and task management
Remember The Milk: Online to do list and task management
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Yes, I have begun to use this as well - Melanie Reed
And you can use it from gmail too... requires FF 2.0. http://www.rememberthemilk.com/service... - Juan Pablo González
The addon for Gmail is really handy. Keep track of your todo lists without ever leaving Gmail. - Mark Wilson
for those on Iphone, Gcal and Outlook - you can also sync All calendars including RTM by using a free exchange server at nuevasync.com . I update stuff in any of them and all the other Calendars sync/update "automatically".pretty nifty. - SnakeDoc
I'm a long time RTM user and love it. - Jeremy Kunz
Is it easier to use than the organizer on a windows mobile device? - John-David Lusan from fftogo
i love it too. haven't found a good Android app for it yet. the iphone app is great - @baratunde from twhirl
and there's a gmail labs plugin which doesn't depend on firefox extensions - @baratunde from twhirl
i've been using it for a while and love it. i ponied up the $25 for the pro account and the $9.99 for Todo on my iPhone (no RTM app at the time) and have been really happy. Now that I've tried the RTM app, I kind of like Todo better. No regrets here about upgrading to the pro account or the $10 for Todo. - Mark Foundos
How do you compare this with iwantsandy? I've been using iwantsandy and I'm pretty happy with it... - Jorge Escobar
never tried iwantsandy but in skimming a few reviews they look very similar but iwantsandy seems totally email-based whereas RTM you can add tasks etc via email but also via the web/google gadget/iphone app. - Mark Foundos
The more I use it the more I like its integration capabilities over that of iwantsandy. - Melanie Reed
Can I sync RTM with Outlook? I didn't find anything on their website. - Marcel Janus
For the PRO users: Does it worth to pay for premium account? - Gian
This might be a bit irrelevant, but just in case. I got to know about this app through the Lifehacker blog and they have quite a bunch of blog posts about the app. You can get the site search for RTM in here http://www.google.ie/search... One of the best ones is this one... more... - Cibeles
This is one of the few on line apps that I was willing to pay for use. It has become essential to keeping me organized. The iPhone app is awsome. - Dave Ploch
Best one app for online to do list and task management - Icekahlua
@John-David: RTM has a WinMo client that syncs with your WinMo task list...this is a killer function for me. you need to go pro, but for $25/yr it's completely worth it to me. - Trent Olson
It's a great tool, I've never been this productive before - MattAlder
Couldn't recommend this more highly -- especially when used in conjunction with Gmail and their rtm gmail addon for firefox... - Todd Lohenry
thanks for the tip...I'm going to try it out now - Beth K
Instead of the firefox add-in, take advantage of the gadget. It uses less memory and, since it's actually part of the web page, is browser agnostic. That's good news for users of Chrome, Safari, IE, Opera, etc. Instructions on RtM at http://bit.ly/21RzqS. - Chris Rogers
Seriously considering switching from OmniFocus. After a week of heavy use, I can't believe I've lived without a web interface for so long. - cecily
I've been using RTM for about 4 months now, along with the iPhone app ToDo for synching. It's fast, feature-rich, and integrates with GMail - a winning combination. - Peter Ghosh
Just started using RTM now it's been integrated with GMail, it's been really useful..... - Iain Baker
i've used for ~2 years. it's a great app. - Kevin Gough
Its really good stuff, but their real world integration is horrid. No sync to outlook? Really? C'mon folks, is that a religeous thign with them? Dont get me wrong, I use them (pro member) but that is a glaring omission. - Soulhuntre from twhirl
Been using it for months: perfect app. Simple but powerful. - Jordi Soler
Been using it for a year now. Best to-do application I have ever seen, thumbs-up for RTM - Peter Efland
Just downloaded this. Will try it out and see. I need a good to-do app so I'm jumping in with both feet. - Amani
I need to remember to keep using this, to be honest. I have an account but I end up not using it as much. Perhaps someone can recommend a desktop client if one exists? - Neurario
@Neural Psychosis: If you're on Mac, you may like TaskPaper. Very simple and basic. A text file on steroids (with contexts & archiving) if you will... - Vero Pepperrell
JazJaz
FreeMind - Free open source mind mapping software for all platforms - http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki...
FreeMind - Free open source mind mapping software for all platforms
This is a very nice application, I use it a lot! - Paolo Feadin
Awesome stuff! Mindmapping changed my life and Freemind is my tool of choice... - Todd Lohenry
Jesse Seymour
Just one example of the direction this country is headed in - Jesse Seymour from Bookmarklet
Jesse is in the house! - Todd Lohenry
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