And frankly, I like adding friends with whom I have a low compatibility. It helps me hear music I never would have found in the first place. I never would have listened to a lot of my favorite music if someone hadn't said, "just try it."
- Ciaoenrico
Heh, "Music you have in common includes ABBA and Depeche Mode"...
- Tyson Key
Your musical compatibility with koltregaskes is Very Low. Music you have in common includes Sneaker Pimps, Hybrid, Snake River Conspiracy, VAST and The Boxer Rebellion. (that's because I listen to a lot of obscure stuff) http://www.last.fm/user/app103
- April
http://www.last.fm/listen... BTW, I send my Blip.FM feed to Last.FM. I fell asleep several times while listening to Blip, so there's some music in there that I don't necessarily like. But, for the most part, it's mine.
- Michael Fidler
If I played my 'best of the best' playlist one day would anyone be interested? It's 45 songs and iTunes tells me it's 4 hours. I can post a FF message when I start and finish and you can check the tunes out.
- Kol Tregaskes
Welp. Ya'll have been friended and oddly enough I only had 4 with high compatibility. Lucky for me that means there is a lot more music our there that I need to be turned on to. Thanks, Kol! :-)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Ok, so people are deleting accounts left and right! Is anyone actually happy with a social media site or do we just like to find something wrong with *everything*?!
I like all 4 listed... Well... I don't use Buzz but I have no objection to it. The problem is we all have different use cases and levels of expectation. Hard to please everyone... and sometimes you have to go for the decision that secures your future that effects your largest body of users the least. All I can say is: easy to criticize, difficult if it was my job.
- Johnny
I love FriendFeed no matter what kind of drama goes on here. The people *overall* are amazing and I wouldn't have ever met any of you on sites like MySpace and Facebook. Yes, people are going to start drama, but you will find that everywhere! FFeeps, I love you!
- David Cook
I don't have a problem with FF, FB or Twitter.
- ☆ Mellyboo ☆
I still like FriendFeed, and I haven't deleted any other accounts recently. Buzz sucks, but I'm keeping it in the hopes that Google might improve it. I don't have accounts on the other two.
- John (bird whisperer)
i tried Buzz but it blows up my email so I had to disable it. I never use MySpace anymore but I haven't deleted it
- Outsanity
I like FriendFeed for conversation though its vexing it hasn't much future. Like MySpace for their Miles Davis catalog, otherwise don't care about it, totally don't like News Corp or Murdoch. Don't like Facebook or Zuckerberg. I dislike networks where people impose on each other to authorize follows. I find that awkward on LinkedIn too though I do it some there. I love Twitter since I found interesting people who put out great link vomit. Got tired of Buzz, needs work, got spammy, needs API.
- Ed Millard
FriendFeed and Buzz have the best experience. Twitter is a great utility.
- Louis Gray
I'm with Johnny on this. All of these platforms can do different things in different ways - reaching different people. I am NOT going to delete my FaceBook account, I don't care who owns it. I don't expect anything to be private on the net - if you need to keep some private then don't put it on the internet in the first place. FriendFeed still rocks - it has all he features that users on Buzz are crying out for.
- Chris Loft
I like FF. Twitter is OK for what it is. Buzz will get better once it has lists and filters.
- Tinfoil 2.0
BTW, telling people not to share (online) if they want privacy isn't helpful. Privacy isn't secrecy, it's choices and control and trust. People share in myriad ways, online and off. As the internet becomes an increasing part of the way we live, why try to force people to suppress speech and stop sharing and withhold support, rather than just have systems that allow ALL of the ways that people want to communicate?
- Tinfoil 2.0
Matthew, I’m not sure what kind of numbers you would want. Do you want me to say that I know 3 people on MySpace, 6 people on Facebook and 3 people on FriendFeed that have deleted their accounts? This post *is* just a personal observation of people I happen to know. I’m not exactly keeping stats on how many people on each site are leaving due to not liking each individual site. I just...
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- David Cook
from email
i think people just dont fully understand what goes with having a social media site account. everyone just wants to be cool at 1st, then they realize that they are opening themselves up to many different elements. most of which, they arent ready for.
- Tofu De la Moore
I use friendfeed/facebook, hardly ever use twitter...As for privacy, theres no such thing as privacy anymore, the governments know all they need to know about us, lol :|
- Halil
Still pretty happy with the architecture at FF.
- Spidra Webster
FF, twitter is full of spam, keep facebook because of old friends and church members. Buzz, it's like Google Wave to me . . . useless (and I am a google fanboi).
- Friar Will (:^)
FF is great. Too bad they don't maintain it properly though.
- İlter Kalkancı
Something wrong with all of them. FF gets closest to what I want.
- JSLeFanu
We place too much importance on social media. I told my friends I was getting rid of my Facebook account and you would've thought I had decided to remove all of them from my life and join a convent in Tibet. It's just a website, folks. Remember phone calls? emails? That's how you used to get in touch with people if you really wanted to. We end up with so many contacts that we really...
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- Fleagle
I may not care what my old high school friends do in specific, but if they do something interesting, then I might be interested. That's the advantage of the FB information sharing model. It's useful to turn casual acquaintances into closer friends. On the other hand, I just deleted my Blippy account, because sometimes there's no point to information sharing.
- Otto
ffsms: (now, released for USA) Send Your FriendFeed Posts via SMS! Sign up, get your PIN and post to FF from your mobile phone. It is FREE! #ffsms Try it now: - http://ffsms.com/
Users from the USA can use our new project "ffsms": ffsms is the first FriendFeed service brings you ability of posting to FriendFeed via SMS. After its pre-release in Turkey, it is available for you! You'll just pay for a standart SMS. Try it now! (Feedback: http://friendfeed.com/ffsms)
- Alp
from Bookmarklet
Nicholas, I'm not sure about it. Most probably in a few weeks, it seems nobody wants to use this in the US, so maybe we will never launch for UK. Even Turkish people are using it a lot but American friends haven't liked it. We included launching for Iran in our plans.
- Alp
I read that as FFS MS rather than FF SMS - I liked mine more ;-)
- Graeme Spice
That's great! Now I'll just wait till they have it in the Netherlands as well - or move to the states, whichever comes first ;)
- James Kuypers
@James I've no idea about how many of FriendFeed users are from Netherlands or other European countries. I think Russia and UK are the at the 1st and 2nd place about FriendFeed usage. Do you have any idea?
- Alp
"insatiable ....k, I'm done." There is something wrong with that sentence.
- Your Neighbor Steve
You didn't, Morgan, but you brought up a Spanish variant in another thread.
- Derrick
yeah, and if you noticed, it was a joke that had nothing to do with you. so if you take things in other threads personally, especially when they are not offensive to anyone else in context, then I guess I need to apologize for everything I've ever posted because either I'm a fucking insensitive prick, or you are a bit too defensive about shit that was never directed at you in any way, shape or form. either way, if you were hurt by something i did or said, i sincerely apologize for that result.
- Morgan
It's a real word. It was a movement set up in England that campaigned against the disestablishment of the Church of England. In other words, they campaigned to keep the Church of England as the official state church
- Ian May
holy crap! finally an IMDb iphone app! but heres a word about Dragon's Lair; you have to have some small-ass fingers to play. for some reason, i keep getting sent back to the info page between scenes. this HELLA frustrated mi, and i removed it immediately...which was cool, because i then downloaded Call of Duty: Zombies. which is fun as hell!
- Tofu De la Moore
"New Super Mario Bros. Wii, like all the previous releases in the Super Mario Bros. franchise is a side-scrolling platforming game where players collect coins as they attempt to make their way through progressively more difficult game levels using their ability to time jumps over obstacles and avoid a slew of enemies. But although the game contain several well-deserved nods to previous games in the series in the form of iconic characters like Mario, Luigi and two Toads, as well as familiar enemies, sound effects and levels, it is not simply another trip down Mario Bros. memory lane. Taking advantage of the flexibility and power of the Wii and Wii Remote, New Super Mario Bros. Wii manages to preserve the retro experience that fans love about the series, while adding new game features. Notable additions among these include, expansive play levels and new powerups and characters, but by far the most important, and in fact game-defining new feature is simultaneous multiplayer."
- Derrick
from Bookmarklet
A friend sent on the photo. Don't know the back story but am definitely going to make one up. ; )
- Fossil Huntress
This isn't the time some drug dealers made a run for the border and tossed like a million dollars into the freeway to stop the cops by tying up traffic, is it?
- Victor Ganata
I'm thinking not since the highway is a sea of 5-0 and there doesn't appear to be any litter.
- Fossil Huntress
Ah, but this looks like it's right before the point where they actually did it :) I seem to remember that they let loose right after passing the 805-163 interchange
- Victor Ganata
"Is your pet feeling left in the dirt because of his/her unsightly rear, I’ve got them covered... Rear Gear is handmade in Portland, OR and offers a cheerful solution to be-rid your favorite pet’s un-manicured back side. Rear Gear comes in many designs including a disco ball, air freshener, heart, flower, biohazard, smiley face, number one ribbon, cupcake, sheriff's badge, dice, and you can even make yours custom, so there’s a Rear Gear for everyone."
- Katy S
from Bookmarklet
Ok... I think I've settled on "WTF?" and then a good "LOL".
- Yolanda
The really sad thing - I found this under the toys category. I was innocently looking for catnip goodies for my kittehs and this is what I saw.
- Katy S
"The medals, revealed today, each feature a different crop of larger contemporary Aboriginal artworks and are undulating rather than flat -- both firsts in Games history. The dramatic form of the Vancouver 2010 medals is inspired by the ocean waves, drifting snow and mountainous landscape found in the Games region and throughout Canada. The Olympic medals are circular in shape, while the Paralympic medals are a superellipse, or squared circle."
- Derrick
from Bookmarklet
does it matter? they're medals. not that big and hanging around a neck, will do fine.
- Iphigenie
This typifies everything wrong with modern art. Ugly, pointless, different for its own sake, needing a manual to understand the message the artist failed to convey with the art itself.
- Alex Scrivener
"Vancouver 2010 medals display traditional native 45-RPM-record-left-on-dashboard-in-sun design."
- Alex Scrivener
I love them - they look organic and cool, not stodgy or boring like many awards are.
- Sparky, lurking
I think they're lovely, but I'm not sure I'd want one if I'd been a winner in the world's biggest competition.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
what do you mean about "need a manual to understand the message" - it's in a shiny metal and has olympic rings on it, it's a medal. WHat message?
- Iphigenie
Telling the truth never makes things as bad as the snowballing of lies to cover lies can. Hurt me once with the truth, I can take that, it is truth. Lies are what makes the truth hurt for much longer, much deeper, once revealed.
- Michael W. May
Well, yes, always tell the truth, that's my policy (but as far as telling someone what I felt about him, I'd just try to avoid saying anything at all, heheh).
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
Am I *that* transparent? :P :) That is a really cool image. I'll give it away... Micah guessed right. I had to use a new technique (new to the sketchbooks, anyway) to capture this image...
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
How about a CC (or other copyleft) license so we can use and cite this in presentations?
- Chris Lasher
I guess we now know where some of the Matrix style came from in real life, eh? @Curtiss: That old handle of yours sounds so cyberpunk that I'll probably have to use it as the title of a cyberpunk novel... ;)
- Dennis Jernberg
for me at first glace it looked like the MCP from maybe Tron 2
- Shawn McCollum
It looks like the birthplace of Skynet.
- TrafficBug
@Dennis - In case you weren't aware, the handle Crash Override is from the movie Hackers with Jonny Lee Miller, Matthew Lillard and Angelina Jolie (with Fisher Stevens as the evil corporate hacker and Penn Jillette in a small role as his assistant). Although much of it was ridiculous from a technology perspective, it was still a really fun movie with a fantastic soundtrack (the soundtrack itself actually has two sequels).
- Curdy G
@Curtiss Grymala - Hackers! great movie! the "Rainbow Books" HA!
- shayne catrett
I wonder if it's the same guy from that animated GIF yesterday showing the dude lying on the beach.
- Curdy G
LOL! Nah, don't think so, but that GIF was definitely bad business...
- Rah-PM 2012
If those ankles, those hips, and that hand are a woman's...poor girl. Wrong outfit. LOL. (but yeah..it's a dude)
- Rah-PM 2012
So what? Does manhood belong to those who wear the stereotype? Did you ask this person how they self identify? What if she told you she's as much a woman as your mama? Would you be satisfied then? This some bullshit, Rahsheen. Real talk, son.
- Nakachi
from fftogo
Manhood in the sense I'm talking about here just means you have or recently had a penis. If "she" has a uterus and can bear children, then I would have to agree. I have no problem if someone born male actually wants to be female, but it's the same as with anything else. I'm going to keep it real. If you just look like a dude rolled out of bed, put on his little sister's clothes and...
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- Rah-PM 2012
Yeah, you keepin' it real. Real ignorant. Because you didn't take this picture to comment on the fashion sense. You took the picture and posted it to make a comment on gender. And if we take gender as you define it, you have no grounds to determine if that is a man or a woman in the photo. Raise your eyebrows until their teepees if you can't help yourself. But you're out of place playing gender police. That ain'tcho job.
- Nakachi
I have not attempted to define gender. I have merely stated my opinion on what I saw in the photo (which I didn't actually take). I did not peel off those tight capris to see what plumbing was down there, nor did I ask for a medical or mental history. This person just looks like a man to me. I don't see why I'm not allowed to say that. How am I being ignorant?
- Rah-PM 2012
I love you, Rahsheen. You know I do. But can you really tell me you don't see what's wrong with this?
- Nakachi
I guess I'm well outside the boundaries of politically correct. Other than that, no. You'll have to explain because I'm at a loss to see why I'm not allowed to call someone who looks like a man...a man.
- Rah-PM 2012
All I can tell you, Rah, is that it's deeper than looks. Much, much, much deeper. The problem with being transgendered or just queer in general in this society is that too many of us cannot, will not go beyond what we think we see.
- Nakachi
Until I know the person, it's all I have. You walk around looking and acting like a freakshow, people notice. I'm not going to sit here and try to guess whether this is just a dude that likes dressing like a woman, a gay dude who has taken things too far, or a tranny who picked the wrong outfit. I have no problem with the LGBT community, but that also means I'm going to treat you like...
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- Rah-PM 2012
And, just for the record, love you too nakachi. I'm just trying to learn something here :)
- Rah-PM 2012
how is this a picture of someone "looking or acting crazy"? especially when many people think it looked like a female? are females crazy-looking these days?
- Liz
Was speaking in a more general sense since I see that all the time here. Guys, dressed like women, acting all types of extra. As for that last question...I'll leave that for a different thread. :)
- Rah-PM 2012
"Acting all types of extra?" Okay, see... Rahsheen. No one gets to determine the social parameters of masculinity and femininity independent of all of us. So if a person chooses to dress in a way that makes them feel happy about themselves, who are you to call it "extra"? You don't have to like it. Your vote was not solicited, so who are you to divvy out "treatment"?
- Nakachi
As an example: If someone likes to dress up as a clown every day, it is well within my right to not like it or just think it's a little extra. Will I treat them badly or even different because of it? Probably not. It is my opinion that they look ridiculous because the average person just doesn't dress like that, but I'm not going to force it on anyone else. I'm not judging them, I'm not...
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- Rah-PM 2012
Nakachi, no man should try and rock bright red skin-tight capris in public, transgender or not. Some things cannot and should not, be blamed on sexual identity.
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
is this conversation REALLY about the outfit? I call shenanigans on that.
- jbrotherlove
I'm disappointed in this post, Rahsheen. is it unexpected / surprising / shocking to see a "man" dressed "like a woman"? I guess it can be, depending on the circumstances. As a black, gay man (who lives in Atlanta), I can certainly confirm that the "kids" can be "extra" sometimes; there's a number of reasons for that. and while a discussion about that might've proven valuable ("I'm just...
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- jbrotherlove
Mark, what I believe you mean is that YOU shouldn't try to rock bright red skin-tight capris in public. To which I reply, "Whatever you say, son."
- Nakachi
I think y'all are taking this entirely too deep. A man is wearing clothes that were made for a woman. The clown analogy was only to make it clear that this really has nothing to do with sexuality or gender and more to do with looking ridiculous in public. I caption it "This is a man" because it's a man wearing capris, flip flops, and a damn purse just to name a few things. Yes it's shocking to some, slightly amusing to others. You guys seem to have a problem with anyone pointing it out at all.
- Rah-PM 2012
It's your right to do whatever you want in your life, but you can't expect for nobody else to notice. Not like I'm posting the person's home address and sharpening my pitchfork.
- Rah-PM 2012
Whatever, dude. Let the record show I called bullshit.
- Nakachi
Nakachi, I think you are projecting your beliefs. I tend to write exactly want I mean.
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
Nobody is actually getting to the point here, which is odd to me. If that is, in fact, a man. Why am I wrong for saying so? Is it because that man has on a girl's clothes? Somebody help me out here...
- Rah-PM 2012
I'll reject any attempt to paint me as some uber-liberal, politically-correct robot. of *course* you would notice; who wouldn't? do you really think I don't laugh at things/people that look "funny" to me? but you didn't write "look at this awful outfit" in which you may have had a point (it's not particularly remarkable to me one way or another). but you wrote "this is a man". and then...
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- jbrotherlove
Rahsheen, this is what I'm hearing: you saw (what you believe to be) a "man" dressed like a "woman" (perhaps, ridiculously so) and thought you would share, right? you're not unusual. believe me, I get it. I get how you - or anybody, really - would be shocked or find it hilarious (I see it everyday). I'm just not one of those people.
- jbrotherlove
I wrote, "this is a man" to make it obvious why I bothered to post this. This is a man dressed like a girl. Not only that, it's a man dressed in a horrible girl outfit. Mean spirited? Kinda. Just like some of the other things I've posted. Like dude in those tight-ass jeans the other day or various people parking like assholes at my job. Am I making fun of their gender/sexuality? Nope....
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- Rah-PM 2012
do women that dress "like men" also bother you Rah?
- The Amber
Nakachi, it is unfortunate that you can't have a conversation or have a difference of opinion without being rude and condescending.
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
And this one is as easy as just asking... Rah, was your post about a man wearing women's clothing or about a man wearing a ridiculous outfit?
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
No, and I don't think "bother" is the right word. I'm good friends with a few women who rock jeans and a t-shirt on a regular basis or who go with a dress shirt and slacks.
- Rah-PM 2012
Mark, It was about a man wearing ridiculous women's clothing with the attitude to match. I didn't think it would spark such heated discussion.
- Rah-PM 2012
I'm not sure I'm entirely disagreeing with "HAW HAW look at teh freak!" and to be honest, I'm still not seeing where the line is being drawn. Is it wrong for me to classify certain clothes as being for a male or female? Is it wrong for me to notice a man dressing in clothes made for a woman or vice versa? Or, is it just wrong to post a pic of someone who might possibly be having gender identity issues?
- Rah-PM 2012
Cecily, correct me if I'm wrong, but at no point in this thread have I disagreed with what you just said. Is it wrong for me to disagree with someone's method of expression?
- Rah-PM 2012
Jimminy, assuming that is the case...so?
- Rah-PM 2012
Rah, you just seem so positive that it is a man, that you keep making comments about, "a man wearing ridiculous women's clothes with an additude to match." "This is a man dressed like a girl. Not only that, it's a man dressed in a horrible girl outfit." I just find it odd that even though it's an assumption you seem so positive about that it isn't just a flat-assed woman with horrible ligaments, and bad elbows.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
Rah. I mean full on dress as men. Not just jeans and t-shirt.
- The Amber
So, finally, someone gets to the point. I only said tranny because I was not aware it was a derogatory term. I apologize for that. I call out gender because one more female with a silly outfit on wouldn't be worth posting. I never said this post wast just about clothes. I have no beliefs about gender or sexuality, which is exactly why I have a problem with people pointing it out. If a dude wants to dress like a woman, that's fine, but I just felt like this was pushing the boundaries of ridiculous.
- Rah-PM 2012
Full on dress as men, Amber? I'm not sure what that entails. Men are pretty boring in what they wear, so a woman dressing like a man isn't all that exciting.
- Rah-PM 2012
Cecily, you just deployed argumentum ad populatum. Just because a lot of people wear ridiculous outfits in Vancouver, does not make such an outfit any less ridiculous.
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
Cecily, you make good points, but I haven't posted who this person is. I've only stated that they are a man...which they probably are. Whether they identify as male is irrelevant. I'm talking about what I see in the photo. Others actually have doubts. Now, does type of exposure hurt...or help?
- Rah-PM 2012
is this a witch hunt? or is this the trial going on?
- Gus
Cecily - 1: I like bigger women; 2: There is no way you can tell me with a straight face, that outfit is flattering on that man. Unlike gender identity, fashion is a choice; 3: For all we know, that's a very heterosexual transvestite; 4. It's still a ridiculous outfit.
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
Or it could be a woman that you are ridiculing.
- The Amber
Cecily, I've already touched on this, but nobody can look at you and see what's in your heart. What they can do as look at you in see whether you are male or female. I'm pretty sure there is science behind that. Now, in reality, that science doesn't always work out because there are other issues at work. But, if someone *looks* like a man, they are a man to like 90% of people out there....
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- Rah-PM 2012
Rah, as far as I know the scientifically proven psychological gender discrimination part of the human brain only works with faces and voices.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
Well, in retrospect, it did cause a discussion. Maybe it's not a man, maybe it's a woman with no curves, big hands, and ashy ankles. But, I found it interesting and the story behind it was that it was a man with a fierce walk. If you don't actually know what you're looking at, though..how can you ever accept it? It's like people saying they're color-blind when it comes to race. It doesn't make sense to ignore differences as it does to acknowledge and accept them.
- Rah-PM 2012
Cecily - If Rah had simply posted a photo of a man in women's clothing, that would be one thing, but he didn't. If Rah had posted a picture of a man wearing women's makeup and jewelry, that would be another, but he didn't. If Rah had posted a picture of a man in women's lingerie, that would be yet another... But he didn't. My perception of his post was that he was poking fun at the...
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- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
Agreed with Mark on that one. The primary reason I posted it was because of the outfit and the fact that it was a man wearing it, which just made it more crazy. Otherwise, it wouldn't be interesting.
- Rah-PM 2012
Remind me to burn my copy of Mrs. Doubtfire. Thanks to this thread, I've been enlightened to the fact that cross-dressing should never be considered ridiculous or humorous.
- Gus
Well, when you put it like that Rah - seriously - I see girls/women dressed like this ALL DAY, EVERY DAY. and while it's not the epitome of high fashion (could even be seen as "tacky" or "ghetto"); it doesn't look out of the ordinary enough to me to be surprised [okay, Cecily's right; what's up with the fuzzy slippers?] so... since *I* didn't see the outfit as particularly outrageous (I...
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- jbrotherlove
I got to thinking, how do we determine what gender the person is forensically, assuming the tiles are 6x6 and they are 6 high, so that's 36in, average counter height, but the person is less than 2x this measurement by a considerable bit, even by eyeballing it, I'd guess about 6inches. Totally 66in 5'6". This is considerably short for a man, so it's most likely a woman.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
if each tile is 6 inches, this individual is exactly 6'2" tall. since there are no women in the world who are this tall, we can only conclude this is a man... confirming the eye-witness testimony.
- Gus
Gus, the person isn't quite 2x times as tall. I've measured the via scale, using photoshop, it comes out to around 5'4". Also, Rah didn't actually see this in person, thus no eye-witness testimony.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
lol, if you can't detect sarcasm and wanna get technical, don't forget the floor doesn't start at the yellow tiles... and the subject's head extends beyond the border.
- Gus
Gus, I took that into account, still doing more number crunching but it's right at 5'4" -5'5". I'm uber technical.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
oky doky, but you counted tiles incorrectly in your example. :)
- Gus
Gus, technically I did, but I factored the 2 partial tiles into one, there is generally a basing tile, which is 3-4in in height, and then the very top tiles weren't full tiles, the lip adds a little bit of height do to the camera perspective. I just factored these to tiles into 1 single tile. lol :)
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
j pretty much said what I was feeling/thinking about this whole post.
- Liz
The only thing I can gather from this thread is that looking at someone and assuming their gender is wrong. Apparently, this is a touchy subject for some of you, but no one has actually explained the Why of it. Assuming it's a man in capri pants and fuzzy slippers, I don't see why I'm not allowed to say WTF. Also, according to Jimminy's math, I'm *considerably* short for a man, so I'm most likely a woman?
- Rah-PM 2012
Ah, and maybe that it why this thread even went so far. I'm not calling WTF simply on a man wearing women's clothes. I'm calling WTF on a man wearing this particular women's outfit.
- Rah-PM 2012
See, before this got out of hand, I thought that the joke was on Rahsheen, like "I was checking out this dude's ass for a good two minutes before I realized he was a dude."
- Your Neighbor Steve
Except that what Lindsey said has nothing to do with why I posted this. No offense to Lindsey as assumptions were made early on, which is the only reason this thread is so damn long.
- Rah-PM 2012
Yes. I found this outfit to look ridiculous and unflattering, especially on a man. I copied the image and caption verbatim from elsewhere. The first few responses were mostly what I expected, but I didn't expect anyone to feel a way about such a simple caption.
- Rah-PM 2012
Oh, so it's ok to assume things about something based on what you see before you? I thought that is what everyone was upset about. Now, I'm really confused.
- Rah-PM 2012
And, for the record, I am not mad. Just trying to understand exactly WTF happened here.
- Rah-PM 2012
I don't know if you noticed, Mo, but that's pretty much how I do with all of my posts. I sometimes post things before I've even formed any real opinion on it. I want to see what others think. With this particular image, I've already stated my initial reaction. I posted here to see what would happen, just like with anything else. The only time I post things with any real forethought is on a blog and sometimes those are only partially complete thoughts.
- Rah-PM 2012
I had a similar sighting a few weeks ago with a buddy of mine. The exchange was hillarious with a "id throw her one" comments. When we discovered the 6 ft 4 in heels gal was in fact a dude, we could only shrug and say, "that guy has sweet legs, he must work out." :)
- Sean Oliver
I think a better way of initiating this conversation knowing Rah's character would have been to give him the benefit of the doubt, ask for specifics about his attitudes towards transgenders and/or transvestites and reserve judgment until after he had a chance to explain his motivation. Having followed Rah for well over a year, I've never known him to be a hurtful or "ignorant" person....
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- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
I agree with what's been said re transgender issues, but what's with the apparent majority consensus that it would be fine to just ridicule the outfit? Why is that a valid and important use of time? Does anyone here actually believe that there is a single outfit in existence that wouldn't look stupid to somebody? Laughing in your head is one thing, but publicly posting someone's image...
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- Lo the Baker
Is the witch hunt still going or has the execution taken place? Robin Williams is next... for making people laugh at the concept of a man dressing up as a woman in Mrs. Doubtfire.
- Gus
My statement did not derail this witch hunt disguised as a reasonable discussion.
- Gus
Gus, using Mrs Doubtfire as an example in this thread is a false analogy. Robin William's character was an actor using a disguise to spend time with his kids. The movie had nothing to do with the character's sexual preference, gender identity, or a psychological/sexual need to wear women's clothing.
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
Mark, the premise of the humor in that movie is the ridiculousness of a man dressing as a woman.
- Gus
Valid and important use of time? Is that a determining criteria for posting on FriendFeed or the Internet in general? Fashion is a choice and/or a decision. Gender identity, sexual preference, and somtimes cultural identity, isn't. It's one thing to be accepting of who someone is, it's another to be accepting of what someone chooses to do, and that's the dividing line. And by cultural...
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- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
Gus, I think you and I may have a difference of opinion on that. The disguise in Mrs. Doubtfire is used as a fish-out-of-water device. The Bird Cage might be a better example of a comedy that touches upon issues of gender and sexuality.
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
Mark, the basis of the humor in Mrs. Doubtfire is a man dressing as a woman, for whatever reason. You don't have to dissect it. It's an obvious fact.
- Gus
man oh man....the things I could do wit dat!!!!!
- Jeremy
i felt it was a hurtful thing to ridicule somebody for what they wear.Strange how uptight people get when men wear colorful or feminine clothes, while women can wear anything they want and rarely get ridiculed for it. Some people sure have double standards, this is a putdown just like racism
- daveeza
Mark, I'm not going to dissect my own sarcasm. You're on your own there. :)
- Gus
The bishop of rome wears a funny-looking hat. OK, now where's the line of people ready to publicly express their outrage for my posting a personal opinion about someone's choice of clothing?
- Gus
he's got better legs and butt than me! Kudos!
- Melissa
choice or not, the hat is still funny-looking.
- Gus
At first I was confused because I didn't realize what was going on. As the thread progressed, I realized that y'all probably thought I had a problem with LGBT folks, which is ridiculous at best. Now that we've come this far, I'm confused and a little upset at how this went down.
- Rah-PM 2012
I finally saw this photo from a large TFT instead of from my iPhone. Those are scuffs, people. Not fuzzy slippers.
- Mark Davidson
Mark, as far as I know there is no "determining criteria for posting on FF," and if there is it wasn't laid down by me. I ask myself whether I'm using my time in a constructive and important way not because it's the rules, but because I don't want to think "OH SHIT DO-OVER PLEASE!!!" right before I die. Also, it wasn't explicitly stated but my original post was meant to imply that if...
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- Lo the Baker
Just heard this guy (Illmaculate) use "he'd rather debating the finer points of html vs flash with his nerdy ass, what'cha goin do bust a caps lock in my ass?" as a line in a rap battle, freaking AWESOME.
he's no joke. whenever he's in northern California, ill records at mi studio; Omina Labs. him and battle rap vet Chase Moore have TWO albums dropping soon, as a duet! the beats are bananas!!
- Tofu De la Moore
from BuddyFeed
No Homo. Cam'ron and the Diplomats are, ironically, among the most homoerotic MCs in rap. They wear pink and purple furs and brag regularly about how good they look. In the video for "Pop Champagne," Jim Jones and Juelz Santana giddily douse each other with frothy white geysers of bubbly.Similarly, Lil Wayne has been photographed kissing his mentor, the rapper Baby, on the lips and cultivates a shirtless, slithering, rock-star-worthy air of libertine sexuality. Similarly, Lil Wayne has been photographed kissing his mentor, the rapper Baby, on the lips and cultivates a shirtless, slithering, rock-star-worthy air of libertine sexuality.
- cysko
from Bookmarklet
@BVCaB *dead* x_X.... just... ****DEAD**** ... *give Kaia a high five*
- MoTO Bott
But it is SUCH an exfoliant! Baby-soft skin!
- Martha
Rochelle it's a UV shirt.... Baroness... I have cravases
- Johnny
from iPhone
I feel your pain. I too suffer from a loathing of sand.
- Bryce Roney
I don't mind the sand, but I hate being in the sun for more than a few minutes. UV rays are eeeeeeeeeeeevil. Good to see you wearing such great sun protection :o)
- ☆ Mellyboo ☆
@socializationeur Create friend lists to sort your subscriptions, dropping people into lists as you follow them. You can also drop the people you are already following into lists too, rather than unsubscribing and losing them. It makes it all much easier to handle, especially when you are subscribed to a lot of people.
- April
That's awesome! (Whoa. There are a bunch of people I thought I subscribed to that I haven't. Fixing that right now...)
- Jennifer Dittrich
Wow, and Steve Gilmore can sure turn a phrase, also: "I still can’t get past the reality that when Twitter farts, FriendFeed becomes a complete and total gasbag." It goes downhill from there.
- Rex Hammock
oh, well, that's never happened before :)
- Steve Gillmor
holden: can u splain the activia ref?
- Steve Gillmor
The whole article, Steve. Why does he blame FriendFeed? Is it like blaming Drew's cancer, or something? And why anyone thinks Twitter is better than this is beyond me. (Just realized you're the Steve who wrote it.) Still don't get it. Why do you think Twitter is better?
- Kimber Scott
Kimber: Where do I say Twitter is better. It just is. And FriendFeed brings out whatever that is.
- Steve Gillmor
Steve - Twitter is better at giving voice to teeth whitening moms and life coaches. You can't use Twitter without using some sort of third-party thing. (I use Tweetdeck and FF.) I much prefer spending my time here and checking in there. I have my rooms here. I don't have to click on anything to see a picture. I can talk as long as I want in one post. Liking is much better than RTing and...
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- Kimber Scott
That was funniest Gilmor post I've read. Read it three times and still trying to understand the point but it was great.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Yeah. Yet another journalist who doesn't know how to use FF. Why do I think this? B/c in his screenshot Louis or Robert were telling him how to use it! haha.
- anna sauce
No offense, Steve, but I'd like someone with a big following to review FriendFeed who actually knows how to use it. Perhaps the ease-of-use is way past these folks? I doubt it. Or whip out the old "I don't have time/ I have a job." Yet, these people spend their time reviewing, and using, technology. So.... still unclear on why the non-power-users are reviewing it.
- anna sauce
As I said, I'm not a geek and I had no trouble figuring FriendFeed out. It's really not that hard. Really. Actually, it's easier than Twitter. First: You don't have to figure out what it's for. You "get it" right away. It's obviously a communication tool. Second: if you want to jump in on a conversation, which you can actually have on FriendFeed, and as I did with this one, you don't...
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- Kimber Scott
anna I am a power user. Kimber I love FriendFeed but also know why it exists. How hard is it to understand that there is a hugely dynamic symbiotic relationship between the two platforms, dominated by Twitter's reach and FF's depth. Holden, the point was to communicate, which it definitely is doing. And even developers like Dave choose not to explain some of what they write. Activia means what?
- Steve Gillmor
Activia is a company that makes yogurt that aids in getting the bowels flowing...
- Ryan
So, Steve, what you're saying then is there is a symbiotic relationship between a parasite on a pimple on an ass and a body as a whole? That seems like a one way relationship to me and it doesn't reflect kindly on FriendFeed. So, I guess what I don't get, getting back to my original comment, is how you can love FriendFeed and still call it a parasitic ass-pimple eater.
- Kimber Scott
from email
Ryan ahh thanks I use Metamucil when I have that problem, but this piece came easily
- Steve Gillmor
Kimber it's a reference to the original post, and it represents a size relationship in the post Oprah Twitterscape. And one organism's pimple is another's home sweet home. I love host and tenant, one more than the other -- which you'll have to ask elsewhere for the "answer."
- Steve Gillmor
Couldn't you just blame Friendfeed once and be done with it in under 140 chars?
- ianf ⌘
is anyone else wondering where gillmor gets off not googling things for himself? steve... double click the word, right click it, and do the search google option in the context menu... i really is that simple
- Chris Heath
Guess it's nice that you think you're a power user, but you haven't really shown here that you are. Upset with the "gasbag" of FF? Follow new people. Create lists. Get off the main feed. Trim your subscriptions. You can't complain about the content (well, I can) unless you either know the various ways around it. Then you can complain. Otherwise, it just seems that you, like most of the people reviewing FF, have no idea how to use it.
- anna sauce
This whole thread is one the funniest things I have read in a long time, including the post that started it all! Thanks to everyone.
- frankiecarl
Unfortunately Steve is right, if Twitter goes down, the quality of realtime information in FF decreases... it is still the best client for Twitter but sharing and discovery still happens first on the fail whale network
- Alberto Saavedra
from Nambu
Holy smokes! I agree w/Frankiecarl, this is hilarious.
- Mark Evans
from iPhone
I commented on Steve's article, because I felt there was way more he could have written about the actual problem, the DDoS attack. However, there is one thing that bugs even me sometimes. It's one thing to have the best platform amongst social media, but it needs to be demonstrated in times like this. Needs a few more people using the strengths of FF to do a bit of citizen journalism.
- George Hall (Australia)
Alberto, that's exactly my concern in the future as Friendfeed grows. As mass mainstream enters, quality the way we think of it decreases to Twitter Trending Topics.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
ianf: no. anna: what makes you think gasbag is not a term of endearment? George: it's really simple, FF's fault. Chris: I don't use search except as a spell checker, and I trust Dave WIner's spelling implicitly.
- Steve Gillmor
This is a hysterical thread in response to one of the funniest posts i've read in a long time. the stuff about Steve not Googling for himself...that's just rockin' funny. thx for the laugh. I needed it.
- Karoli
ff's fault only in that they don't always take opportunities to demonstate FF in such times NOT for what's happened.
- George Hall (Australia)
from BuddyFeed
how could you possibly know what happened. Me, I Blame FriendFeed
- Steve Gillmor
Why is Blame always capitalized? I feel like I'm missing out on something.
- Jonathan Langdale
Why, Steve? Why? What did FriendFeed do? I shouldn't even respond to this silly post anymore. It's almost like you're an artist who's painted a mess and is being vague about it with the hope that people might get the impression it must really "mean" something. Twitter goes down from a DOS attack and you Blame FriendFeed, but you love FriendFeed. You sound like my ex-husband.
- Kimber Scott
from email
Alberto, when Twitter went down, my FriendFeed folks continued to serve me quality contents. Really.
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Steve, your article made perfect sense to me. Sorry others didn't agree. It's clear that the tweetstream is the core of FF's value to most people, even if FF has oodles of other features that we "native" FFers get a lot more mileage out of.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Daniel: wasn't too hard, was it. thx
- Steve Gillmor
i'm a tad inebriated, but still... wha? if twitter is the be all end all of online communications then we're f'd... seriously (in an inebriated kind of way)
- Chris Heath
and by 'be all end all' i mean 'end all be all' and by that i mean 'core of FF's value to most people'
- Chris Heath
Is it because I've just exited the 25-54 demo and now face the death panel, or does anyone else detect some ageism in comments about Steve's opinions on tech? I noticed it when GG was on Leo's network, too, from commenters who needed to teach the old men about things only a gen-xer or younger could possibly comprehend. I get it from younger people, too, who KNOW I won't be able...
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- Amyloo
like which comments Amyloo? sometimes stuff like that can be unintentional just because a younger generation's social norms deviate from the past generation and your perceptions are different than their intentions - misunderstandings and miscommunication are some of the pitfalls that are abound in life (and even more so in online life where there's not facial expression or tone and inflection of voice to give other social weight and cues to our words).
- Chris Heath
in regards to steve, his style, and the reactions that his writings and online activities provoke: I think steve is either 1) trying to 'stir the pot' to 'get a rise' out of a certain type of person in a john c dvorak kind of way, 2) maybe he's really just a crotchety old man, and i mean that in the kindest of ways that a stranger can say that about someone or 3) something else -- and i...
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- Chris Heath
chris: I write something, people comment, I comment back. Pot is constantly stirred, doesn't need any extra. some people are trying to inflict damage by calling me old, or fat, or whatever. it usually say more about them since I am 60, fat, and whatever. The ageism thing is subjective: I could outlive all of them or none of them. WHo knows. Their problem, not mine.
- Steve Gillmor