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Interesting that no one has ever talked about porn seriously here. I'm not going to start, how about you?
Jeunelle Foster, Veetrag, Jack Wilson, K4SAC and 25 other people liked this
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...
- l0ckergn0me
Pr0n is good )
- Prolific Programmer
from IM
It is funny that Pirillo commented first.
- Robert Scoble
Pr0n is good :)
- Prolific Programmer
from IM
It's funny that lots of people talk about it when you get face-to-face but very rarely do you see it seriously discussed online.
- Robert Scoble
Can you talk with no samples ?
- Johni Fisher
Notice that no one has yet shared their favorite porn site. Yet if we were talking about Android Pirillo would have 20 sites to go to.
- Robert Scoble
Johni: I read on TechCrunch that Bing.com is a good place to find good porn. But I wouldn't know about such things cause we're not allowed to discuss such things online.
- Robert Scoble
Freudbox.com is the shit. I am not ashamed:)
- Shawn Hickman
I will share here the best site I know ... let me get it
- Johni Fisher
if i'm going to like a thread, it's this one.
- Jim Halligan @jim
If you don't know about porn all you have to do is askjolene.com
- Dale
Jim: u will sure do :-)) Robert: it look like that I will be the only one that will share a link :-) http://livesex.com/sextv if you sign up (no spam) you can get all in HD prof. videos http://livesex.com/
- Johni Fisher
Warren Ellis was talking about it the other day http://www.warrenellis.com/... Filament, a magazine of porn/erotica for women that are having trouble getting small printers who "won’t print images of the male of the species in a state of obvious arousal"
- Rachel Clarke
Bing, Bang Bong!
- Prolific Programmer
from IM
This is what I like about FF. I could have spent hours trying to find good quality (pr0n) links... but here, in like a few minutes we have some quality links already. :D
- Sunny Saxena
That would explain your following Violet Blue on Twitter. :)
- Louis Gray
i think maybe the altitude got to Robert.
- Jim Halligan @jim
just need to ask :-))
- Johni Fisher
Porn seems (edit)like a process to access with guys. No one just pokes around RedTube? o.o
- Heather
Robert: I think the reason that porn(social expectable to most in this age) isn't more fluently spoken about on the web outside of 1:1 conversation is that now it's easy to track what some has said. If porn(links,images, etc) exist on your social profiles, its possible your family, prudish friends, or in a background check for a job could uncover it. It's possible it could hurt you and...
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- Jimminy Fuller
I'm with you Heather, http://www.fleshbot.com and http://www.pornhub.com (preference over Redtube)
- Jimminy Fuller
Holden, I don't know how many times I've gone to http://www.twatter.com/ and think someone should put a porn site there, sadly it's just a place holder selling adds, no content that I've seen.
- Jimminy Fuller
Louis: I follow Violet Blue because we spoke at a Fortune Magazine conference together. Oh, and we violated a Mac display at Macworld together. But that wasn't really about porn. Or was it?
- Robert Scoble
Errr... We gave discussed this already in the gentlemen's room. Months ago.
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
Woah, well apparently that's been added in the last 2 months. I don't think I've typed twitter into my browser for about that long.
- Jimminy Fuller
Cracking up, Louis. Well, Robert did say that who he follows should tell the world something about what he's interested in, so there ya' go.
- Kathy Fitch
Kathy: and also that I follow people who I've met face-to-face and I've definitely met Violet Blue face to face.
- Robert Scoble
Dying laughing, here.
- Kathy Fitch
:-)
- Johni Fisher
Kathy: of course I follow you too!
- Robert Scoble
Here, sure.
- Kathy Fitch
Oh, wait--there, too! Okay, now I'm in tears laughing.
- Kathy Fitch
Robert : you cant follow me on Twitter as I dont let my contents to the once I hvnt met in person :-)
- Johni Fisher
The hardest part about talking about porn is that once you share a few links... everyone leaves the conversation. Can't figure that one out.
- Louis Gray
Louis: they will be back in a few minutes.
- Robert Scoble
Are we talking about gadget pr0n? :-P
- Nick Humphries
Nick: now you are talking SERIOUS porn!
- Robert Scoble
Louis :LOL
- Johni Fisher
finally paying attention after @nickhumphries mentions gadget porn
- Prolific Programmer
from IM
Prolific: wait until we start talking about food porn.
- Robert Scoble
Alright everybody. You can undo "Private Browsing" now.
- Louis Gray
you know me too well, @scobleizer :)
- Prolific Programmer
from IM
Can't wait until Apple's new iPr0n tablet. So sleek and shiny..
- Nick Humphries
Nick: what else would multi-touch be invented for? ;-)
- Robert Scoble
You need to call it something more high minded--what did Howard Rheingold call it? "Dildonics," I think.
- Kathy Fitch
ugh
- Prolific Programmer
from IM
I gotta admit, I'm still freaked out that Pirillo was the first to comment on this.
- Robert Scoble
There. Feast your eyes on nerd discussions of the development of internet porn.
- Kathy Fitch
What they failed to grasp, apparently, is that the visual alone would suffice. Duh.
- Kathy Fitch
Talking about food&sex-funny video: http://video.google.com/videopl... ..Time to go ...
- Johni Fisher
I've noticed the lack of porn discussion here too. I'll say that I don't know the majority of people on FF very well so I wouldn't feel *right* talking about it here.
- EricaJoy
Yeah, it's weird. Every flavor of sexuality is right at our fingertips in virtually clinical detail, but humans still have a hard (uh, *difficult*) time talking about sex. Slippery (er, *elusive*) subject.
- Kathy Fitch
The fear of talking about porn sometimes prevents some learning about some good tech practices as porn site techies have done some serious tech work on ddos, payment systems and other security work.
- Andrew Leyden
from iPhone
Interesting to see that Andrew was the first one to bring up the business side of porn. I've worked for companies that stood to make a significant amount of revenue if we accepted business from pornography purveyors. Unfortunately for our top line, we let the "morals" of top leadership prevent us from making a good business decision. Once we get over the stigma of our sexuality and allow it to become a topic of everyday conversation, businesses that go about it smartly will make lots of money.
- Sally: in Florida
To me, being comfortable with sexuality and being comfortable aligning oneself with the porn business aren't quite the same thing. I think it's okay to pass up some opportunities for profit when they don't suit an organization's mission or philosophy.
- Kathy Fitch
This is a great Saturday night conversation... lol
- Kevin Whalen
I'll talk about porn seriously. Where do I start?
- Brian Felix
from iPhone
I formerly worked for a web hosting service that did the same thing that Sally referred to regarding disallowing "adult content websites" that approached us about hosting. I've noticed that most web hosting services (including Rackspace and its affiliates) seem to keep porn from entering their business realm. What's your thoughts on that, Robert?
- Michael Owens
from iPhone
Michael: I will be at Rackspace tomorrow and will check on our policies.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Probably a conspiracy to drive up prices for hosts that allow porn (very very few). Odd really for a perfectly legal past-time.
- Mark
What a minute...there's porn in the Internet?!?! Who knew ;)
- Kenny
For me this problem seems to be coming from MyBlogLog. Right now I'm being stalked by a Sheyla S who's MyblogLog account and blog is all about tits & ass, trying to link from BlogCatalog to Mybloglog to my Twitter account and then trying to follow me here at FriendFeed. I don't even log in Mybloglog. This person was also a member of Blogcatalog and was visiting my profile for weeks but...
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- Jeunelle Foster
We are seriously talking about porn and porn detection. We have made the porn filter, which detects porn content in images without performing text analysis.
- Irina Yakhneeva
Twitter is down. Oh, what will the SEO experts, the celebrities, the spammers, the bots, and the social media experts do?
Asha Tampa, Bruce Lerner, Laurentiu and 221 other people liked this
Come to FF!
- Simon Wicks
Give Friendfeed a shot?
- Rubin Sfadj
Hang out on FF
- Roberto Bonini
Hopefully they don't come to FriendFeed :)
- Robert J Taylor
they will spam friendfeed instead?
- Denis
They are so freeeking out.
- SolidSmack
I couldn't tweet about it, so I told my wife instead.
- Patrick Lightbody
I tried retweeting that. *sigh*
- Andy McIlwain
Big ups to the FriendFeed massive!
- Josette Torres
Call them to join friendfeed, and make
- Madhav Tripathi
Hopefully FF won't get killed by the Tweeters flocking over here.
- phil baumann
ok.. here ya go..twitter being down has forced me here. Haven;t tried FF yet so...
- cheapsuits
just like ya possibly twiddle their thumbs...
- Baba
I suspect the bots will rejoice....
- walidmREALTOR
Let's see where these so-called "social media experts" go to fill the void of Twitter.
- Christian
I can't open twitzap.com
- ybs
Can FF servers manage such a massive movement?
- Samuel Goëta
since bots supply at least 25% of Twitter traffic, should we feel the worst for them right now?
- Kevin Norman
write a post about twitter being down as a threat to humanity, may be?:)
- Nikos Anagnostou
Twitter down... can't post on Facebook,,. so it's FriendFeed!
- carrotmadman6
So your're not responsible for that ? Strange... :-)
- Enikao
lay on the floor and spin in circles
- SolidSmack
Maybe the SocMedExperts will go back to Plurk since Scoble likes Friendfeed. :)
- Jay Gilmore
thank God, now we can get back to work
- E.P. Scott
if they are the experts they claim to be then they should be here!
- Mark V. Fusco
Facebook seems frakked too.
- Gregg Le Blanc
I get tweet trough tweetdeck...
- Giorgio
I need serious help with FF. For an idiot like me this isn't so intuitive really. Help section is nice but I need someone to hold my hand ..bleeech. Don't get me wrong I am sorry I was reluctant to try FF before
- cheapsuits
I blame Scoble. It's always his fault :-)
- Keith Barrett
but how am I going to tell the world I need a cup of tea???? nooooooo
- Rachel Clarke
Giorgio - I'm seeing some activity through the Twitter API, too (that's what TweetDeck uses, I believe); not a lot, but some
- Robert J Taylor
I thought it was just my connection. ;-) I'm also having problems with Facebook today.
- Timothy Federwitz
yeah, it seems the web interface is down but the api is working..
- Giorgio
I think the social media experts are going to spend the next hour talking about Twitter being down
- Keith Barrett
Maybe read a book for a change?
- Yiorgos Adamopoulos
Scoble's followers where the glue keeping Twitter together! now that he's 'pulled the pin' and released them all, Twitter has fallen down and can't get up.
- MikeAmundsen
Seems to me like some sort of an (DDoS) attack on Twitter and Facebook.
- Jari Hakkarainen
I'm so lost this morning without my cup-o-Twitter
- frank barry
You broke it Bob! All this follow/unfollow madness.
- ZuDfunck
They'll comment on it, much like I just did.
- Marlin Forbes
Man imagine if this had happened on #followfriday...
- Rob Paller
Yiorgas: read a book for a change? I do that anyway, but only about 10/month. need more twitter time to balance it out
- Rachel Clarke
Facebook is copying twitter too closely...even to going down at the same time
- Robert Littlejohn
Does Twitter have what it takes to be a big player? We've been working with their API on a project and every time there is something out of whack. Anyone else have the same issues?
- Chris Nadeau
twitter is really down, I think twitter itself should have a site that tweets when it's down :)
- Ata İsmet Özçelik
They will use FF to inform their friend that twitter is down
- Didier Girard
They'll use Identi.ca ;)
- Nicholas James
No actually the blog: http://status.twitter.com/ ("We are determining the cause and will provide an update shortly.")
- Patrick Mackaaij
Show up here I'm thinking. :-)
- Dion Hinchcliffe
Huge exodus to FF!
- akihito
We will start feeding friends and keeping up our identi.ca 's
- JuneM
They're probably crying so loud right now that they can't do a thing ;-)
- Caio Cesar
What's been the longest twitter outage on record thus far?
- Dusty Edenfield
hmm at least they found a solution with a blog :)
- Ata İsmet Özçelik
I don't understand why you maintain an account when you have such contempt for Twitter & those who use it.
- Liz
they will cry in their soup
- Bobby Griffith
holiday
- Ronald
it's back up. made ya look
- Kevin Norman
Strangely, search.twitter.com is up.
- Marlin Forbes
Tokyo: I already have a private group setup. Sort of like a bomb shelter in case the rats take over.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
i noticed that twitter is down... anyone know how facebook is ssOOO slow 2...????
- Sebastiaan van den Akker
Just noticed it...
- k00pa
do not waste time and do their job :D
- Roldano
twitter outage and news of the PubSubHubbub feature in Google Reader (http://is.gd/24YvH) make FF look pretty good right now.
- Dusty Edenfield
facebook too! i guess i'm going to have to do something like "get a life" which is abhorrent to me... ^_^
- Kayce Maisel
friendfeed is having some issues but for the most part is still up and going :)
- (jeff)isageek
find another medium such as friendfeed ;).
- rick
Roger, Mr. Scoble!
- akihito
@Sebastian they connected somehow... ahhh scary :)
- Dani Martínez
good. so not the only one with issues with FB.. wel atleast is FF is going strong..
- Sebastiaan van den Akker
what we all are going to do??? =) but if seriously i remember this video on youtube - trouble with twitter: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- obolonskyi
They will all sit in their chair and stare at their monitor!
- Gabe Diaz
@Dani, who knows... the might merge or something... explain the strange twitter is pulling fb down 2..
- Sebastiaan van den Akker
Did Scoble bring Twitter and FB down as he unfollowed everyone ? winks -)
- Del_
This is still up... even this FF tweet. http://search.twitter.com/search...
- Johann Chiang
In the event that twitter goes down I tend to frequent FF more.
- © b e e n s w a n k
This is very interesting that it is impacting more than one social network ... can't even speculate what the cause is yet. Not getting much work done today I'm afraid, going to be following these conversations..
- Joe Magennis
I haven't been on twitter for days. I guess I picked the wrong morning to jump back in.
- Jeff Stannard
Robert: The most important question>> How many new sign-ups for FF today?
- K.N. Ajit Narayan
...and who wins? FF great :)
- Dani Martínez
Was just able to post to Facebook but took several tries. Wow. FF FTW!
- Tom Guarriello
so!!
- abdellah
The smart ones will go to FriendFeed ;)
- Helene
The spammers should go to MySpace...
- Dennis Bjørn Petersen
Tweeple will come to FriendFeed!
- LauraLee Dooley
That's why I joined FF a while back. Then I found all the useful features- and the bonus is having Scoble here to show the way.
- Brenda Young
No, the smart ones are ALREADY on FriendFeed :)
- Susan Beebe
and?
- abdellah
@obolonskyi nice. vid.. ROFL... never seen it before...
- Sebastiaan van den Akker
GUILTY ! I have had a FF account for awhile just never used it--
- cheapsuits
What the celebrities like you do. Talk about it on Twitter.
- Tad Chef
This actually made me laugh out loud, because I was thinking the same thing!
- Dan
This kind of reminds me of a line from Office Space: "I must have put a decimal point in the wrong place or something. Shit. I always do that. I always mess up some mundane detail."
- Jari Hakkarainen
haha lets get FF down also :D
- Salim Sarımurat
Could this mean that CNBC was right??? Nooooooooooo!
- Travis Koger
I was planning to unfollow a bunch of followers due to Twitter's follow limit rule kicking in at the ~#2000 user level. I have to wait with that then... ;)
- Martin Lindeskog
FF FTW
- Eran Even-Kesef
Is the Twitter bubble bursting?
- Travis Tasset
Let's see how well Friendfeed handles this Twitter outage :)
- Rene Silva
Re previous comment of mine, 'Nooooooo!' was for CNBC being right, not that twitter is dead. ;)
- Travis Koger
life goes on
- Eran Even-Kesef
Hey don't tell anyone about this FF thing, its our little secret
- Jeff Wiant
Twitter better be back up by the time Rick Sanchez is on CNN this afternoon or he won't know what to talk about ;)
- cjcubs
telnet 80 twitter.com ?
- Gordon Joly
@gordon wont work
- k00pa
FF was down for me for about 10 min just now.
- Dusty Edenfield
Blogger's having some trouble as well
- Crispin Heath
No address associated with nodename (twitter.com)
- Gordon Joly
If friend feed ever gets as popular as twitter were will everyone go to to avoid the popular crowd?
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
Panic?
- Dean Clark
@scobleizer I'm seeing issues with twitter and facebook. Social website attack?
- Michael Fierro
Panic? Aren't we all used to this already? :)
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
if this is the North Koreans with a coordinated attack I WILL laugh
- cheapsuits
@scobleizer I'm seeing issues with twitter and facebook. Social website attack?
- Michael Fierro
Robert, please follow back 106,000 and everything will be ok))) joke =)
- obolonskyi
I can not play 140mafia!!! This sucks sooooo bad :(
- Sam Beckett
Twitter outage is causing issues with both facebook and friendfeed. I guess we know where everyone is going instead of twitter.
- April Russo (app103)
facebook? no way :)
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
Twitter being down is a a relief to me this morning! Now I can stay OFF it rather than fitting it into every 30 second change of task! n
- Arleen Anderson
at this rate they will have to start sending out junk mail via the post office again... oh the humanity
- Terry Bruce
Let's all chat on Friendfeed
- johnpiercy
from iPhone
Nothing seems to work, I think it will be the Friend Feed greatest traffic boost ever
- Jacob Kobi Gamliel
guys, is it Ddos attack? or smth like that? as I understand twitter is hosting somewhere and this datacenter is down. am i right?
- obolonskyi
FriendFeed traffic is rocking now...
- Jacob Kobi Gamliel
social media "experts" might need to actually find other work to do.
- Luis Sandoval
thanks God, Youtube is working
- obolonskyi
More info needed. Where is there an alternate feed to real time news?
- SenderOK
seems unlikely I'll do anything productive in the interim
- WarLord
Hopefully they will move to FF :)
- Martynas
it could be ff provocation
- obolonskyi
I feel like we are all stranded on a tropical Island together
- Jeff Wiant
was afraid for a moment that out IT blocked all social networks or something horrible like that. Thank god FF came back up quickly. This might have gotten me to use FF more. I often neglect it.
- Ryan Cummins
Wondered why tweetdeck wasn't loading anything. actually got some programming work done. lol
- Justin Long
friendfeed rules!
- Kevin Dolan
twits will move, but only until twitter is back online, then there will be a mass exodus. Remember during all of the 2007/2008 fail whales users still flocked back to it regardless.
- Travis Koger
Twitter, Facebook, now Posterous... 4chan organize an attack or something?
- Sam Harrelson
from IM
Thank goodness FF is still working. :)
- 3Cinteractive, L.L.C.
from twhirl
Friendfeed + Facebook :)
- Rafa Lacerda
From status.twitter.com: "Site is down 1 hour ago. We are determining the cause and will provide an update shortly."
- Martin Lindeskog
Having issues with Facebook as well as Twitter. Can sign into FB but unable to go to anyones profiles- process just hangs
- outofmyarse
chinese attack? :)
- Roldano
Touché Robert, Touché
- Jeff Woelker
from twhirl
"We are defending against a denial-of-service attack, and will update status again shortly." from Twitter Status
- Kurt Jarchow
North Koreans I tell ya....
- cheapsuits
took inordinate amount of time to get into ff today as well
- A Zmaj
Hmmm DoS attack...someone wanting a ransom from Twitter?
- Mike Gargano
Guess they'll have to either pick up the phone or do some work :)
- Graham Bunting
Can someone with 94k followers really mock the the celebs and experts devoid of Twitter?
- Augie Ray
Hey, no bogus follow messages in my inbox for a while! ;-)
- Julie Barrett
from twhirl
This is teaching us something about the framework of the current Internet traffic patterns. We're watching cascade scale problems from one major Internet program going down.
- Melanie Reed
Facebook is giving up the ol', "Transport error (#1001) while retrieving data from endpoint `/ajax/inline_comments.php': A network error occurred. Check that you are connected to the internet" message now.
- 3Cinteractive, L.L.C.
from twhirl
I think this is bigger than Twitter and FB... I think it's some interweb routes or something. I had a VoIP call going with a party local to me and two across the country and I lost the two across the country, but maintained the local party. And others are commenting on other sites showing signs of outages.
- Timothy Federwitz
from Alert Thingy
Twitter is Down....panic..run.,,SOS!
- Veetrag
Yeah, had all the characteristics of a DDoS attack. What do perpetrators of such attacks get from doing that, I've never understood.
- Jari Hakkarainen
What will they do? Use FriendFeed!
- Chuck Huckaby
It's official. Twitter's problem is a DoS attack per twitter/status.
- Roger Jennings
shhhh they'll come here
- andy brudtkuhl
The real bummer for me is, now I actually have to listen to the radio to get the word of the day!
- Travis Owen
is twitter connected with FB or Friendfeed? I am having page errors with both, Ajax issues with FB intermittently , I am no tech geek so I have no clue whats up and come here to learn
- lisa coultrup
Status Blog says "We are defending against a denial-of-service attack." Mmmm... http://status.twitter.com/post...
- akihito
Friendfeed it is then.
- Aren Grimshaw
Now, It's up!
- Martin Sliacky
Posterous isn't working properly either, at least for me.
- Steven Melfi
http://status.twitter.com/post... We are defending against a denial-of-service attack, and will update status again shortly.
- Zalt Woo
What does DoS mean?
- Kimberle Kelly
denial of service
- Justin Long
I meant what does denial of service mean? (dumb blonde here sorry)
- Kimberle Kelly
If it's true..or is it propaganda?
- Alex Schleber
It's down, again.
- Martin Sliacky
Tracing route to twitter.com [168.143.162.100] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 172.16.1.1 2 25 ms 29 ms 28 ms lo1.br57.fra.de.hansenet.net [213.191.64.45] 3 24 ms 24 ms 23 ms ae1-252.prju01.fra.de.hansenet.net [62.109.64.13 7] 4 24 ms 23 ms 24 ms fra32-hansenet-3.fra.seabone.net [89.221.34.61] 5 120 ms 119 ms 195 ms ash1-new50-racc1.ash.seabone.net [195.22.206.2] 6 125 ms...
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- Zalt Woo
Thank you :o)
- Kimberle Kelly
DoS on large portions of the internet. Is this 4Chan... Chinese... N. Korea... durkadurkastan...
- Ryan Cummins
now having trouble getting to Friendfeed
- Justin Long
look, few days ago Clinton back home with two imprisoned american journalists from North Korea and today Korea is attacking twitter? it is revenge)))
- obolonskyi
maybe Robert's great unFollowing crashed the servers... no loss! Go FF
- Jay Shapiro
from BuddyFeed
some government is DDOS'ing the real-time internet to cover up something :-) http://leeprovoost.posterous.com/the-twi...
- Lee Provoost
hmmm
- abdellah
As I said, I predict a baby-boom in 9 months... wait and see!
- Jordi Soler
SEO Experts can analyze their charts, celebrities and wannabe's can entertain us with video (maybe some cool Twitter Whore like stuff) , and social media experts can quickly become Fail Whale Experts.
- Michele Lorito-Chase
@Lee Provost don't you thing you're going to be a little apocaliptic ? :-)
- Filippo Ronco
Twitter downing has to be a lesson for all of us. if sometimes gmail or even google will be down. what we all are going to do in that situation???
- obolonskyi
@Filippo i've been suprised many times that reality is often more wacked up than the conspiracy theories of geeks :-p
- Lee Provoost
I'm hoping the social media experts go away and do something useful.
- Parvez Halim
@Lee this is true too :-)
- Filippo Ronco
@Jordi LOL, considering that there are a vast amount of single male computer geeks out there in the twitter community, baby boom effect might be negligible :-D
- Lee Provoost
what is bad here? here doesnt exist reply button =(
- obolonskyi
The realtime updates of the comments is great. FF rulez. Would be better though to have the comment link not on top
- Flynn (Michael A. Volz)
@Lee single male computer geeks - LOL))
- obolonskyi
Go back to MySpace?
- Juliana
Maybe some will switch to FF if twitter is down for a while
- Flynn (Michael A. Volz)
The twitter bots are rebelling
- Charles
@Flynn, go check out this Greasemonkey script, solves it: http://userscripts.org/scripts...
- Alex Schleber
Come here and moan about it!
- Kami Huyse
Read post on 100k unfollow - I love how people are commenting and blaming Twitter being down on that! lol
- Helene
@AlexSchleber: thanks, great :)
- Flynn (Michael A. Volz)
AAANND.. it's back. At least for a moment I guess..
- Alex Schleber
AAANND it's GONE! ..Again. At least I managed to send out a quick FriendFeed SOS, as in: "Still think you shouldn't have all of your favorite tweeps in a "backup system" on FriendFeed? Join here: www.friendfeed.com/alexschleber "
- Alex Schleber
Either collapse or back to use their phones in voice only mode, do some shopping, get eye to eye contact ... Blame god, and then. Give a serious try on FF ;p
- Marco ILLESCAS
from iPhone
They will still be able to Tweet to themselves - not sure if they will realize it is down until it comes back up.
- Phil Harrison
I hope everyone will be ok...lol
- April Mendez
Hey, can I hang out here on FF while my Twitter is down :)
- Kevin Krewell
Welcome to FF Kevin! You can tweet from here too!
- Arleen Anderson
Thanks Arleen. I hear all the kool kids hang out here now - like Scoble and you!
- Kevin Krewell
I'm glad I joined FF yesterday, great timing!
- CodeSamurai
I also micro-blog or create my own Twitter, but in more than 140 characters.
- polou/indigo_bow
FF and Tumblr are working fine! :-)
- Tim Moore
A good FF day- new familiar faces on this thread.
- E-Advocate Network
What will the blackhat SEO experts, the SM spammers, and the social media experts do during a widespread outage? The answer is obvious: While sitting out the crisis they're fine-tuning their methodology. Seriously, your question offends me. There's a gazillion of SEO experts out there who do not abuse social media.
- Sebastian
Sebastian there can't be a gazillion SEO experts! What's 10,000 keywords times 20?? (and that's being generous!)
- Arleen Anderson
Would a social media expert consider it to be a crisis? If they rely so heavily on just one or two tools that it's enough to throw them into a tizzy, their expert status would seem to me to be ... questionable, at best.
- Gord McLeod
Agreed.
- Greg
Arleen, 10,000 keyword phrases times 20 is a tiny fraction of the search terms that are worth optimizing for. Think of the long tail. Also, consider lots of webmasters and even publishers / site owners / bloggers / Web developers ... SEO experts who are able to optimize their stuff quite successfully but don't sell or publish their expertise. Many of them, and even many SEO consultants, do make sensible use of social media, as plain users.
- Sebastian
Gord, in a social media spammer's book 2 hours of outage, IOW 2 hours w/o sales from sneakily distributed links to questionable sales pitches, can sum up to way more than a good day's beer money. ;) However, "crisis" might be a term too strong for this potential loss.
- Sebastian
+1 Sebastian
- Bill Sodeman
I'm hung up on hop 12!
- bev
I love FF!
- John Giglio
come to Friend Feed? Not
- Rob Cairns
You must be dying of laughter now Robert!
- Arleen Anderson
Arleen: yes, reading this is fun. Sebastien SEO types are so easy to wind up. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Gotta love it... @RobCairns says "come to Friend Feed? Not" and then his page shows ONE POST from Twitter in the past 18 hours! And that one talks about how Twitter seems to be slowing down again! (Sorry Rob, but that's just too good to let pass!)
- Mark "DerBingle" J
Robert, admit it, you broke Twitter by massively unfollowing people. The DDoS attack reports have just been a ruse to cover up the fact that you were the backbone of Twitter all this time.
- Louis Trapani
Louis: that is true. I pissed the bots off.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Keep running into the wall a few times then find alternate outlets such as ff, linkedIn, etc...
- Kirsten Mitchell
from iPhone
Looks like the devious plan to move everyone to FF is working well. LOL :)
- Geer
Ha! The whole Facebook Twitter slowdown may have been just people clicking on spam (not a DDoS botnet). How funny! Manual DDoS. See Bill Woodcock's theory at CNet, AP, SF Gate, and The Register http://ff.im/6gLmO
- Mitchell Tsai
There you go again implying the only ones that use twitter is SEO experts, the celebrities, the spammers, the bots, and the social media experts - This is definitely SPIN. Perhaps you should join CNN also LOL
- RetiredTeacherD
Ironic, given your status as a celebrity social media expert who constantly spams about bots... :-P
- David Kettler
Now they'll have time to shower and do their laundry!
- Ron Hagenhoff
I just unsubscribed to "Louis Gray" because I got sick of looking at his twins.
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That's nice.
- Beau Liening
To each his own, I guess. I like seeing peoples' kids, especially when they're parents are creative about how they get posted.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Thanks for sharing!
- Louis Gray
Ding Ding Ding! You just won the "Sad Fuck of the Day" award! Congratulations!
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
I suggest you post more Louis
- Nick Halstead
Here, let me shed a tear for you.......Nope...couldn't....sorry.
- Beau Liening
Some people just don't like seeing kids. No big deal. Some people would consider it unnecessary to post such feelings to explain an action none of us are concerned with anyway. Fabricated big deal. The choice of words tells me that this is an attempt at fabricating a big deal. It flopped. Negative cred.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
I categorize these kinds of posts with the "I'm deleting my FF account because of..." posts. Bait to get a crapload of comments and likes.
- Beau Liening
Why is Louis Gray in quotes? Is that not his real name? Or is that code for something? Inappropriate use of quotes is totally "FTW"!
- pea
There is the Hide function...
- JA Castillo
@Pea +++++ Hahahaha so "Louis Gray" needs to tell us his real name.
- Shevonne
Cute little mobsters... may grow up and pay you a "visit." See what I did there with the quotes?
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
cracking knuckles - it's time for da MOB!
- BEX
Good for you. Why do you need to tell us exactly?
- Kamath (नमः)
I like "using" quotes for no "real" reason.
- B. Hatin
Or just remove him. I'm sure Louis doesn't stay up late at night weeping because someone removed him without posting all over why.
- Andrizzle Gizzle
LOL
- Paul Papadimitriou
Well I'll be damned! I haven't looked at Friendfeed since I made the initial post. And I didn't post it to start some kind of bait to get comments. I couldn't care less. I was just being honest. Louis is probably a nice guy and I wish he had two feeds (or does he?): one for tech posts and one for family posts. I'd subscribe to the first and pass on the second. "Children should neither be seen or heard from - ever again." - W. C. Fields
- Tokyo Dan
I'm more interested in subscribing to real people than edited personnas.
- Scott of Two Countries
Scott of Two Countries, Who's edited and who's real?
- Tokyo Dan
I think Scott is saying that by removing the twins and putting them in a second feed, that would be edited.
- Louis Gray
That's right. If you want a tech feed, there are plenty of places for it, but IMO FriendFeed is not about narrow feeds, but multi-faceted people.
- Scott of Two Countries
OK. My initial post was cold. I sincerely apologize to you Louis. But I was really irritated. I subscribe to your posts for tech. And to tell the truth, I tire very easily of seeing constant family pictures of even my close friends. Sorry if that makes me an asshole. But if I feel like that then there must be others who feel the same way. Or am I really that unique? Anyway, two feeds...
more...
- Tokyo Dan
This all boils down to the way communication is done on social networks. Today, the burden of sorting through feeds is almost exclusively done by the receiver. While most people talked about how Facebook did open its status updates to "everyone", I was more interested in the application of selective outbound communication: one status update could be directed to one list only. This is a...
more...
- Paul Papadimitriou
Good idea Paul.
- Tokyo Dan
Microsoft “Code7” coding contest announced - Within Windows - http://www.withinwindows.com/2009...
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"Microsoft has announced (on the Windows Team Blog) a new coding contest titled Code7. The rules are pretty simple: Write a native Windows application (sorry Adobe Air people) that utilizes a new feature or five in Windows 7. Prizes include travel to LA, entrance to the PDC 2009 conference, and/or a heap of cash."
- LANjackal
from Bookmarklet
$17,777 up for grabs, go for it. (Anyone else think MS should've gone for $77,777?)
- LANjackal
I wonder if there is anything this FF user can do to shorten this irritating title of these posts: "LANjackal to LANjackal's feed, Windows 7, TheNextWeb Forum, RWW: The Future of Tech, Apps"
- Tokyo Dan
Post about that in the FriendFeed Feedback group if you have an issue with it. Nothing I can do, that's just how cross-posting on FF works
- LANjackal
Definitely $77,777. Got to keep it consistent.
- Ryan - @magicofpi
Tokyo Dan: Those are not the titles, FF posts don't have titles. Wish I could customize the FF look and feel
- Hoop
I have been using Shazam for song recognition but Midomi blows it out of the water. Granted it's not free ($4.99) but it's A LOT faster than Shazam at recognizing songs and also offers a bunch of other features. It's #4 in paid app music section of iTunes - http://www.midomi.com/index...
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Great, I've already had the free version :)
- Leandro Ardissone ⍨
Hmmm... perhaps worth checking out. /me makes note... this comment ;)
- Daniel Krech
Midomi Ultra is gonna be the first iPhone 3GS app I buy. Hope my iPhone arrives on the 26th.
- Tokyo Dan
Tokyo Dan: Yeah I have it on my 3GS and it's lighting fast - usually picks up song with 3-4 seconds - doesn't wait a set duration of time like Shazam does.
- Mike Bracco
The only thing that Shazam beats this app at as far as I can tell is in the lyric lookup functionality.
- Mike Bracco
Apparently, not everyone has GarageBand. Music Software - Indaba Music - http://www.indabamusic.com/landing...
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something a little more fun than a metronome for my student to practice along with
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
from Bookmarklet
I don't know if this will eliminate Audacity for me, but I will give it the "good old college try". It does look really cool. || Shared on Facebook.
- Miss Elle
Last summer I was looking for something like this for my N810
- Tokyo Dan
@Tokyo Dan -- Do you really think this will run on a Nokia device? Because I have an E71 ... Or is my phone going to be too pitiful and out of date?
- Miss Elle
My students see me using GarageBand and are always asking for a windows equivalent. Hopefully this will be good for them.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
I welcome other (FREE) suggestions for Windows users.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Please have a look at our free app - basically a pre-configured RSS reader for users who don't have a clue about RSS. Developer Website: http://randomgoodies.ning.com/ App Name: Random Goodies App Price: free URL: http://ax.itunes.apple.com/WebObje... Have a few extra minutes to kill? Random Goodies will deliver some of the most interesting tidbits from the...
what platform is it for?
- Tokyo Dan
Heard something very disturbing from my friend last night: Some seeds are engineered to produce only once forcing us to buy a new batch of seeds every time we want to grow the corresponding vegetable/fruit.
To me this is a fucking outrage. Another way The Man sucks our lifeblood, enslaves us, and forces us to work for fuckin' ever. God gave us seeds so that we can be self-sufficient. The Man doesn't want that.
- Tokyo Dan
The only thing I can say is FUCK YOU to society and establishment.
- Tokyo Dan
Audio: The Man Who Beat Monsanto : http://breakfornews.com/forum...
- Tokyo Dan
Live now: The Gillmor Gang with Steve Gillmor, Robert Scoble, Loren Feldman, Mike Arrington, and Kevin Marks. http://live.twit.tv Discuss here...
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Last.FM thinks TechCrunch is full of it, and attacks TechCrunch again RE: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
- Chris Heath
leo call kevin now
- Steve Gillmor
i'm listening in, but not able to talk yet
- Kevin Marks
ello
- Jackson Pollock
i'm fine alan
- Chris Heath
Local issue, I think. Comment deleted.
- CAJ, somewhere else
is there a way to get just the audio stream, with no video?
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob: close your eyes.
- Robert Scoble
Link to Last FM's response http://www.last.fm/forum...
- Jamie
rob, http://twit.am
- Chris Heath
rob, or twit.am iphone app
- Chris Heath
twit.am/listen cool!
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
hanks!
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I think, the thing we need here is more streaming methods, really.
- Jackson Pollock
you're tom rob
- Chris Heath
poor computer is doing too much, and the video is killing it
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
HI...
- Tina Chase Gillmor
hi
- ralphsaunders
hello tina
- Chris Heath
hello tina
- Adnan
'ello!
- CAJ, somewhere else
Hi Tina!
- Robert Scoble
ello ello
- ralphsaunders
Hi Tina
- Hilary Talbot
Hello all....glad to see everyone here
- Tina Chase Gillmor
You can open http://bglive-a.bitgravity.com/twit... in VLC player, which is more efficent than flash
- Greg Byrne
tweet the show pleeeze
- Tina Chase Gillmor
k
- ralphsaunders
linda lovelace
- Gabe
.... deep throat?
- ralphsaunders
Hi Robert, Hilary
- Tina Chase Gillmor
wow. that 's a killjoy
- Jackson Pollock
didn't we have OPML for sharing feeds?
- Adnan
lol @ the UI diss to Dave
- Jamie
bundles sounds like a friendfeed room but not as powerful
- Chris Heath
its teh shourty bald guy
- ralphsaunders
Someone needs to develop something as robust and powerful as Yahoo Pipes but not as geeky for the masses. You can do some really cool RSS aggregation and filtering with the service. http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/
- Mike Bracco
Leo, whatcha eatin'? Looks like BBQ from Whole Foods box.
- CAJ, somewhere else
alan, i think it's salad
- Chris Heath
Well, that's no fun. Just thought I recognized the box.
- CAJ, somewhere else
alan, leo often eats salad in a box ... you'll see it again
- Chris Heath
nice cans leo
- Jackson Pollock
I really hate that about gmail
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Robert, where you at
- Nick Rae
Robert is doing a diaper change ;-) Good daddy
- Tina Chase Gillmor
lol
- Nick Rae
Kevin has lost the long sideburns
- Tina Chase Gillmor
hate Follow Friday :-(
- Jamie
ask kevin what his ceo learned at the bilderberg meeting in greece?
- Nick Rae
why does every app have to take off. what happened to useful apps for a niche group
- Jackson Pollock
chat is a quite holiday weekend chat, isn't it?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
followfriday is mostly useless because it gets gamed so much - so much competition
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
nick, you really think that kevin is privy to the goings on of the bilderburg meeting? you really think so?
- Chris Heath
zee posted a couple bundles here on FF https://friendfeed.com/the-nex...
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
just curious to see the reaction on his face
- Nick Rae
http://alltop.com/ also does a good job of getting top sites across various topics.
- Mike Bracco
nick, the reaction on his face would probably 'say' something like "why would you think that they would tell me that kind of info?"
- Chris Heath
what's the url? calacanis.com?
- Jackson Pollock
502 error at the moment. Weird.
- CAJ, somewhere else
leo: http://100twt.com (other links across the top)
- Chris Heath
chris, your probably right, but you ask the question then maybe he educates him self about bilderberg
- Nick Rae
poor kirstiealley
- Tina Chase Gillmor
yeah, but it makes you look like a dick, nick
- Chris Heath
little more tact might get you a better reaction
- Chris Heath
how bout Gillmor Gang fights... anybody cataloging them?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
twitter search is a joke...drops soooo many tweets
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Except when you delete a tweet, then Twitter's search keeps it
- Colin
there should definitely be a "Catfights" section on the wiki Tina, I'd create it, but I don't want to fuel the fire
- Gabe
twitter is vain... good premise
- Chris Heath
lol @ Colin And Tina
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Twitter is about being a framework that everyone else can build products/services on to add additional functionality that people can choose to use or not to use.
- Mike Bracco
ohhh. i beg to differ
- Jackson Pollock
if twitter wqould let more companies have a firehose like frienffeed has, twitter could be very useful
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Steve always moves GG away from porn.. good idea Steve
- Tina Chase Gillmor
there's a sentence I never thought I'd hear Scoble say; "RSS is dead":
- Jackson Pollock
Gabe - what wiki? the twit one?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
scoble is full of it
- Dave Winer
that was complete fucking nonsense
- Dave Winer
when isn't he dave?
- Chris Heath
Cool real time search engine TechCrunch covered the other day: http://searchmerge.com/
- Mike Bracco
welcome dave :-)
- Jamie
how is rss dead? how would we get blogs/etc. flowing through friendfeed without rss?
- Adnan
oh geez
- Dave Winer
i have to stop listening to this crap
- Dave Winer
OK, Dave, why are my Tweets so slow to show up in Google Reader then?
- Robert Scoble
how would we get podcasts? i mean, it has it's place
- Jackson Pollock
Twitter's API uses json/atom/xml
- Colin
Dave reminds me of Bobby Fisher
- Jackson Pollock
xml steve
- Dave Winer
Dave: is it an RSS problem or a reader problem that they can't poll everything all the time?
- Robert Scoble
neither scoble, I'm trying to explain it
- Kevin Marks
finally kevin says something right
- Dave Winer
The argument is that the RSS model is too slow because of the pull architecture. Every time you check the RSS you need to download the entire thing. A push architecture would be better.
- Peter Kruit
steve, so what?
- Dave Winer
Twitter only let's you poll it so often.... Whitelisted ips can still only make 20,000 calls/hour to Twitter, which is nothing.
- Colin
kevin keeps saying things that make sense now
- Dave Winer
so?
- Dave Winer
twitter pushes RSS, thats about all
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
and?
- Dave Winer
saying that you don't interact with rss is like saying you don't interact with the gasoline in your car
- Jim Posner
and RSS itself!
- Dave Winer
How is RSS dead?
- Jason Hansen
Tina - I mistakenly assumed there was a Gillmor Gang on wiki.twit.tv, I gues it could go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Gabe
That's right Steve
- Colin
when you eat your cereal do you use RSS steve?
- Dave Winer
Don't they use RSS to get their podcast within iTunes?
- Jason Hansen
It would actually be more of the opposite Steve.
- Colin
RSS isn't dead.
- Peter Kruit
When you are posting to Twitter, you probably aren't using RSS, but when you are using a Twitter client, you are using a form of RSS.
- Colin
Does anyone this that Steve Gilmor is a pompas ass! RSS isn't dead. I use it more than ever now.
- Chris Rodgers
After all the twitter debate over the last few months, I see more and more people stating how much Google Reader is still integrated into their daily news gathering.
- Matthew
I use Google Reader everyday Matthew.
- Jason Hansen
I use RSS feeds from twitter, and twitter searches combined with yahoo pipes fed into Google Reader to monitor topics and searches in Twitter
- Gabe
Me too Jason Hansen
- Matthew
I use RSS more than ever as well, but that's the only thing I use, and further, it's not how I'm going to see breaking news. But I use it more, and for more purposes as well
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
steve, nor should they be
- Dave Winer
I still use Google Reader because 1) it allows me to read full-text feed without leaving the service 2) it is clean, there is no FoaF content - I want FoaF entries in FF but still want a service that has only content I explicitely ordered.
- Jérôme Flipo
What's the point of this statement
- Bwana ☠
Google Reader shows me how many articles I have. If I followed a lot of people on Twitter, I would miss so much, right?
- Jason Hansen
I use google reader to make sure I don't miss articles from my favorite people
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Technically that might be true Steve, but they use similar forms of RSS, they are very close.
- Colin
The argument is that RSS doesn't have the role it once did, for certain people (including Scoble). Everytime anybody updated their blog, he pulled it down through his reader. Now, this happens through Twitter/etc and he doesn't PULL it, it gets pushed to him through another service. And in this context of Roberts life, YES it is not in use anymore.
- Jackson Pollock
It seems as though twitter has given Google Reader a bump in mindshare.
- Matthew
http://updates.sixapart.com/ is six apart's flow
- Kevin Marks
nonsense
- Dave Winer
oh dear
- Bwana ☠
Dave you should call in and straighten these jokers out
- BryanSchuetz
steve is saying the store and forward model is becoming antiquated.
- Jim Posner
RSS isn't being replaced. There are just additional methods to access information flow. sigh
- CAJ, somewhere else
actually that isn't all you're saying steve
- Dave Winer
Dave Winer should call in. Steve is an idiot. I don't know why Leo has him on the Twit network
- Chris Rodgers
I agree Alan.
- Jason Hansen
is there an application that acts like google reader and employs its design? That could get me to use twitter over GReader, but then again not every feed I subscribe to twitter their posts over twitter.
- Matthew
imagine a web where nothing was stored....kind of like the gillmor gang
- Jim Posner
Engineer vs journalist
- Jackson Pollock
geeez... tough crowd todayl
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Love it jackson lol
- Colin
thanks chris
- Nick Rae
Go engineer!
- Colin
too true tina
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Where's the fact behind that statement?
- Jason Hansen
that doesn't make sense to me
- Bwana ☠
what evolution does RSS need, it works perfectly.
- Matthew
I think RSS from SINGLE SOURCES may be dead. Downstream RSS generated feeds generated as mashups of a bunch of sources are more useful. Real time is more about content and not the source of that content. In that case, automated and dynamically generated feeds are more useful.
- Mike Bracco
Too much information in Google Reader?
- Jason Hansen
+1 Matthew
- CAJ, somewhere else
product replacing format?
- Bwana ☠
Steve's argument is not making sense to me...it's not a valid comparison I think
- Bwana ☠
This is about news readers vs twitter, not RSS vs twitter.
- invariant - farewell FF
Steve thinks he's the smartest man on the planet.
- Tokyo Dan
I don't think the differences between Twitter and Google Reader are a function of the underlying protocol.
- Chris Johnson
I use Google Reader to find the news to talk about
- Bwana ☠
I didn't follow scoble on google reader because he shared too much
- Kevin Marks
Since when is Google Reader a social network?
- Jason Hansen
Google reader is my newspaper, not my social network
- Matthew
I don't wait for others to find it for me
- Bwana ☠
agreed Matthew
- Bwana ☠
My gg feed is forming rust ... Realtime
- Ed Guinn
developers don't use RSS?
- BryanSchuetz
+1 Matthew
- Jérôme Flipo
That's the way I look at it invariant, I just want them to skip this other nonsense.
- Colin
Google reader is trying to be a social network.
- CAJ, somewhere else
I pump shares into FF from Google Reader
- Gabe
Google Reader is the springboard for all of my FriendFeed discussions.
- Bwana ☠
I find the news
- Bwana ☠
I do too Gabe
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I have google reader but i don't use it much. I prefer having RSS bookmarks in my toolbar.
- ralphsaunders
people discuss it
- Bwana ☠
without Google Reader, I wouldn't start any conversations on FriendFeed
- Bwana ☠
If I find a story I want to share in Google Reader, I click the post and use the FF bookmarklet to share it on FriendFeed
- Matthew
omg .. who the hell cares how many followers scoble has.
- Dave Wallace
there's a guy who doesn't get it at all
- Jackson Pollock
It's a wast of time watching this when u can download it and listen to it later while exercising or driving.
- Tokyo Dan
Dave Wallace: that tells me the relative popularity of the tool.
- Robert Scoble
i can never get into google reader... just doesn't draw me back
- Chris Heath
I pull RSS feeds into FF to do that myself, Bwana. However, it's a small, easy to manage amount.
- CAJ, somewhere else
real time is here to stay..we get that...next.
- Jim Posner
Alan - I have a hard time using FF as a feed reader
- Bwana ☠
Robert: that doesn't mean kevins reason is wrong.
- Dave Wallace
Google Reader beats it so hard
- Bwana ☠
with a stick?
- ralphsaunders
an ugly stick
- Bwana ☠
Twitter + FF is central spine of real time web...
- Gregg
:O
- ralphsaunders
I don't disagree. For me, a LOT of the same material was being shared on FF already so I didn't need to keep watching some of my feeds. :)
- CAJ, somewhere else
perhaps they were never offered it in the best way possible
- Jackson Pollock
I can skim google reader, skimming twitter is having to skim hundreds of tweets and getting less info, imo
- Matthew
ugh, I keep cringing when he says RSS
- Bwana ☠
rss is good if you want to get all available articles from a certain point... but most of the time, i don't want to do that ... i want the most recently active articles from all points (friendfeed does this very well)
- Chris Heath
I don't want Google Reader to have a social aspect.
- Peter Kruit
I use Reader now for only my favourite high signal/low noise feeds
- Jamie
Every page in friendfeed creates an RSS/Atom feed. I pull all date into friendfeed except from a couple of services via RSS/Atom.
- Robert Scoble
Steve sure is making a big deal over a tool he doesn't use.
- Jeff Harbert
jamie, i just use live bookmarks in firefox for my most favorite feeds (or igoogle)
- Chris Heath
for general news reading it's FriendFeed for me. I dip in and out - I don't need to consume every single article, or even skim every article
- Jamie
Jamie: I have switched to using feedly for that, which uses my Google Reader lists to present me news.
- Robert Scoble
the main reason I use the share in google reader is so that FriendFeed hears about it and tells twitter
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
don't get the protocol fixation..why does it matter?
- Jim Posner
I also have 4-5 live bookmarks chris
- Jamie
who uses Google reader (or any reader) more now than they did before twitter?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
as a user I never got the usefullness of rss. I like visiting sites and the searches that I set up on rss search engines had too much noise in them to be useful.same thing with twitter and friendfeed
- jccalhoun
me too Robert.
- Jamie
I use Google Reader more than anything out there
- Bwana ☠
Tina: I use it WAY less.
- Robert Scoble
I just don't find reason to attack Kevin or Google for developing a new, different and perhaps better way to do this.
- Jackson Pollock
even friendfeed
- Bwana ☠
fwiw I completely agree with Steve. he might not be articulating it how he wants but I get what he means.
- Jamie
I use GR more now
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Jackson: the thing is that Google Reader never got the mass market appeal that Google wants to see for its services.
- Robert Scoble
Jamie, can you explain it to us? :D
- CAJ, somewhere else
Twitter/FriendFeed did not change my usage of Google Reader. Twitter has too much noise. FriendFeed doesn't have all the subjects I'm interested in.
- Peter Kruit
Good point Leo
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Twitter went mass market. Google Reader didn't. Facebook went mass market. Google Reader didn't. Friendfeed is much more used than Google Reader and friendfeed hasn't gone mass market yet.
- Robert Scoble
right - Scoble - I use it way less too
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Alan - check out FeedSync.
- Jamie
I still don't see why we can't use these tools to compliment each other
- Bwana ☠
I like google reader's ability to infinitely scroll into feed history. This is valuable when mining data from Yahoo Pipes. Great tool for content analysis
- Gabe
Agree w/ Gillmor that Bundles is wrong feature to focus on for Reader. Better to enhance mechanisms to get Reader items into FF. Currently, RSS is the only way - that doesn't work in realtime.
- Nick in Manila
Peter: you can bring in the EXACT SAME RSS feeds you bring into Google Reader into friendfeed.
- Robert Scoble
why are we in such a rush to kill something off and move on
- Bwana ☠
The money isn't not an issue, if we look at newspapers. Usability is one.
- Jérôme Flipo
imagine a protocol that was two-way and real time.
- Jamie
google reader is only one client for a comon format
- Kevin Marks
i use google reader to follow topics. sources from postrank. Favs are shared to private rooms
- Webferret
Why can't I use Google Reader, Twitter, AND FriendFeed in a happy utopia world of news
- Bwana ☠
Bwana: you can.
- Robert Scoble
Most people consume realtime and RSS together, they compliment each other.
- ralphsaunders
you can Bwana :-) I do too
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Robert: Agreed, but not the content of the post or am I wrong?
- Peter Kruit
Right Bwana, Twitter and FF augment, they don't replace.
- invariant - farewell FF
what is the motivation to say that rss is dead?
- Jim Posner
Realtime doesn't allow people to click ads/go to website because their attention is still on the realtime
- Matthew
cool kids club 2009?
- Bwana ☠
:)
- Bwana ☠
lol
- CAJ, somewhere else
headlines Jim Posner, headlines
- Gabe
RSS Great! Live Great! Can't we all just get along?
- MarK
The world hasn't changed over. A certain percentage of the valley has. 10 people know what it is here in Norway. 99% of the population knows what Facebook is.
- Jackson Pollock
not on the Gillmor Gang :)
- Bwana ☠
OH Robert no you didnt
- Bwana ☠
hahahah
- Bwana ☠
YOU said it Scoble
- Jackson Pollock
FriendFeed NEEDS a special live feature that is customized for live interaction like this for live shows.
- Mike Bracco
It's a good word to get us to read their stories. hah
- Colin
Robert, you brought Jimmy Wales to Friendfeed, but he never came back. Still no likes and only 4 comments. Be careful with stats of innovators on FF!
- Jérôme Flipo
When did Steve declare Office is dead? anyone got the date?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Scoble this is not "the chatroom." the chatroom is at irc.twit.tv
- jccalhoun
Jerome he's still there.
- Robert Scoble
I think 2004 tina
- Jamie
Friendfeed needs to put a "comment" link on the bottom of the conversation as well as the top!
- Gabe
jccalhoun: this is the chat room. IRC is dead.
- Robert Scoble
IRC moves a little too fast, I prefer FriendFeed.
- Colin
what did scoble do? i missed it.
- ralphsaunders
Robert, here but inactive.
- Jérôme Flipo
scoble IRC isn't dead.
- ralphsaunders
@Gabe You should also be able to comment on comments
- Mike Bracco
Pop the chat out on the permalink Gabe
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Robert; I hate when pundits use the word dead
- Jackson Pollock
scoble there are 500+ in the irc chatroom
- jccalhoun
does everyone still use Office? is it the center of your universe like it was?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
IRC isn't dead either.
- Peter Kruit
doesn't really make that much sense, I need a drill, so I pronounce the wrench is dead?
- Matthew
this is a realtime messageboard not a chatroom
- jccalhoun
Yes, I use Office every day
- Bwana ☠
Saying RSS is dead will give you better tools? Please explain.
- Jim Posner
thanks Jamie
- Tina Chase Gillmor
You just can't work out how to use it. :P
- ralphsaunders
And I use Google Docs
- Bwana ☠
wow, two tools
- Bwana ☠
I hate this either/or movement
- Bwana ☠
Just because some of these people aren't using services doesn't mean it's dead.
- Peter Kruit
Jim: it creates a conversation of where the future will go and the protocols and tools we need to get there. Google Reader isn't good enough for this environment.
- Robert Scoble
Well, if someone isn't using Google Reader anymore, to that person, it might be dead ;)
- Colin
your news, not my news
- Matthew
Google needs a real time feed display if it wants to compete with Facebook/Twitter/friendfeed.
- Robert Scoble
which comes from Google Reader
- Bwana ☠
lol
- Bwana ☠
this "acts" like a chat room during a live show
- Tina Chase Gillmor
it's so funny how a tiny percentage of people in California bury themselves in themselves and what they find to be relevant. What you miss is that the money, the users, everything a business like Twitter or Facebook wants, is not in California. It's the rest of the world. And not a soul in the rest of the world has any clue about FriendFeed yet. Not a clue.
- Jackson Pollock
hi leo
- ralphsaunders
It's really not an EITHER - OR discussion, it's a BOTH - AND thing. RSS + RealTime Web = two great tastes that taste great together
- BryanSchuetz
Horses as a transportation mean is dead, but horses are still alive :)
- Jérôme Flipo
Mibbit
- Bwana ☠
Right Bryan it is a Both-AND thing
- Francine Hardaway
real time FTW - dead air FTL
- Chris Heath
FriendFeed isn't ugly Scoble?
- Colin
I hear that
- Jackson Pollock
Robert-Telling me my truck is dead doesn't get me into a Tesla. We need more specifics..how do I get into the Tesla?
- Jim Posner
I told ya you couldn't use it scoble.
- ralphsaunders
Thanks Kevin
- Bwana ☠
Robert Scoble is an elitist
- Matthew
scoble just go to http://irc.twit.tv/ in your browser and it works just fine
- jccalhoun
Matthew: heheh!
- Robert Scoble
exactly Jerome - when Steve says it's dead, he doesn't mean literally dead. just that the technology has/will/should be replaced for certain things that are technically superior
- Jamie
Peter: if the user base is stagnant and not growing, then it is "dead." Scoble is right, though. Dead can be a misleading term.
- Nick in Manila
dirty elitist.
- ralphsaunders
I like the fact that FF save the chat and I can search it later
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
how do people identify themselves on here? I'm jccalhoun everywhere online
- jccalhoun
Robert, most of FF users (IMO) still use GReader besides FF. For me, they're very complementary. They should diverge in their development to better serve their users in their new usage.
- Jérôme Flipo
jccalhoun that irc client sux
- Chris Heath
if 4chan decided to raid FriendFeed, we'd go crying back to IRC
- Bwana ☠
Robert, how do you put 350 RSS feeds in to FF?
- Francine Hardaway
I'll say it again - Disadvantage of FriendFeed = No "comment" button at bottom of conversation = lots of scrolling :(
- Gabe
irc advantage is tab-complete usernames
- Chris Heath
Robert.... Is Gilmor gang soley about social media??
- ralphsaunders
Learned the other day that South Korea requires social security numbers to register for social networks
- Mike Bracco
chris heath i dno't use it. scoble just said 'irc is hard to get to" and it isn't
- jccalhoun
huh Gabe?
- Jamie
exactly Leo
- Bwana ☠
correct Leo
- Matthew
EXACTLY. Let's keep it this way, PLEASE
- Jackson Pollock
And thank goodness for that, Leo.
- Jeff Harbert
If 4chan said let's raid FriendFeed, you'd see moderation nightmares
- Bwana ☠
Gabe: Use the timestamp link and open this in a fresh window and you get the comment button at the bottom
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I'm on IRC now. It's lame compared to friendfeed.
- Robert Scoble
@Scoble Do you use Yahoo Pipes?
- Mike Bracco
Did Leo say the people on FF are more intelligent?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I use Goolge Reader and I use FF. This conversation is stupid and boring.
- MarK
Keep Paris Hilton away from FriendFeed. That's my new quest.
- Jackson Pollock
http://friendfeed.com/twit-co... @ Gabe
- Jamie
The culture of the service/team will make the difference over time.
- Jérôme Flipo
Mike: not enough.
- Robert Scoble
Unfortunately, FriendFeed won't be successful with the few people here
- Matthew
Not gonna last folks.
- Denise Howell
Hey Denise
- Matthew
bwana absolutely. there's no reason why friendfeed couldn't be overrun by trolls
- jccalhoun
Matthew: I had a magazine with 100,000 users that made millions per year.
- Robert Scoble
Thanks Jamie
- Gabe
How do you ban spammers for kick people from ffee?
- Greg
hi Denise
- Tina Chase Gillmor
FF isn't a Magazine Robert
- Matthew
Matthew: size of audience is not a necessary condition for financial success.
- Robert Scoble
Matthew: it is to me.
- Robert Scoble
hi all, good to get my Gillmor Gang on. :)
- Denise Howell
It should work this way here too: http://friendfeed.com/twit-co...
- Gabe
Friendfeed isn't a magazine to the majority
- ralphsaunders
I think Steve's right in this way: Realtime has the mindshare. We will see rapid development in this space. RSS has pretty much fulfilled it's promise, so you won't see a lot of new and interesting tools in this area. But I think that once realtime matures, something else will grab developer attention.
- invariant - farewell FF
how is this not easy to troll? I just cut and paste a bunch of racists homophobic stuff and keep hitting "comment" over and over
- jccalhoun
how will Friendfeed make money?
- Matthew
Two years ago no one knew about Twitter.
- MarK
ads?
- Matthew
good conversation Steve,,another reason it should be stored and forwarded.
- Jim Posner
jccalhoun - we'll block you and be done with you
- Chris Heath
jccalhoun: yes. One block and you're gone.
- Robert Scoble
block won't stop a full blown raid
- Bwana ☠
you'd see fake accounts left and right
- Bwana ☠
Bwana: yes it will.
- Robert Scoble
chris heath you can do that in irc and any decent message board
- jccalhoun
no it won't
- Bwana ☠
this chat is being stored
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Bwana: it's not easy to create an account here.
- Robert Scoble
4chan'ers know how to make multiple email accounts
- Matthew
sigh
- Bwana ☠
Tina: right. And we can see everyone else's info too.
- Robert Scoble
jccalhoun the mods have to do it in irc, here we all do it
- Chris Heath
and multiple twitter accounts
- Matthew
how is it not easy to create an account here robert?
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
it is just as easy to create an account here as anywhere else
- jccalhoun
Chris: it's decentralized moderation.
- Robert Scoble
exactly
- Chris Heath
Rob: you need an email or a Twitter account.
- Robert Scoble
It's easy enough for 4chan to kill it
- Bwana ☠
When Twitter decides to MONETIZE, how will that effect everything. Premium accounts, ads, Google analytics on Twitter pages etc..?
- Mike Bracco
IRC is a different community from FF. the chat here goes dead after the show but IRC carries on.
- ralphsaunders
bwana, i'd like to see them try
- Chris Heath
Bwana agreed
- Andrew Johnson
If anything is killing RSS it's Microplaza http://microplaza.com not friend feed
- BryanSchuetz
there's very little stopping a full raid
- Bwana ☠
Robert: How hard is it to get an email address?
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Still want to know how/why to put my 350 feeds on FF
- Francine Hardaway
I'm saying I want it to happen
- Bwana ☠
Robert, Twitter has decentralized moderation too (I think) but it has lots of spammers.
- Jérôme Flipo
Robert: 4chan had people working all day to enter captchas to game the Time poll. If they want to game FF they will be able to.
- invariant - farewell FF
I'm saying decentralized moderation would fail if 4chan decided to raid
- Bwana ☠
What is SO much better for me on FF is this chat gets saved, stored and can be referred to later... the irc chat goes away
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Jerome: absolutely wrong. Twitter does NOT have decentralized moderation.
- Robert Scoble
francine - make a group, and add them to the group (that way it's not all in your account)
- Chris Heath
you wouldn't be able to block fast enough
- Bwana ☠
Bwana: all we'd have to do is create a white list room. I'm already doing that.
- Robert Scoble
twitter should have a pro and premium accounts. Pro removes ads from your stream, Premium removes ads from stream and all tweets you send out
- Matthew
bwana, well i'd still like to try
- Chris Heath
Jerome, Robert's correct on that. Go delete someone else's tweet in a thread that you create on twitter
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
When I block someone on Twitter, it doesn't have the same effect that FF blocking?
- Jérôme Flipo
You can't
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
this chat may be saved but how useful will it be to people? irc chats can be logged if you want but they are most useful live
- jccalhoun
if you go private, 4chan wins
- Bwana ☠
Here's an audio rebuttal to the nonsense about RSS on this edition of the Gillmor Gang. http://friendfeed.com/davew...
- Dave Winer
white list based on userid?
- Greg
jerome, not it's not the same ... friendfeed does it right
- Chris Heath
guruvan, thanks for the example.
- Jérôme Flipo
the archiving of comments is very useful
- Jamie
jccalhoun: I regularly look back at the chats.
- Robert Scoble
jccalhoun; it makes the podcast searchable. very very big for audio
- Jackson Pollock
Why doesnt FF have a "comment" link/button at the bottom next to the last comment in the thread? No way to sort recent comments to the top?
- Andrew Johnson
so do I in irc
- Greg
private list/room = invite only irc channel
- Bwana ☠
same thing
- Bwana ☠
robert, yeah leo should do that here and delete/block some of the unruly comments
- Chris Heath
the gg video needs to be made available..why it's not is a mystery.
- Jim Posner
how did you post this 5 hours ago Dave Winer?
- Matthew
Great site to check handle availability across social networks - http://namechk.com/
- Mike Bracco
That's the whole thing of it Jerome, I can completely block someone here, and I can delete comments in my own threads - you can't block someone completely on twitter
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
andrew click on the 1hour ago beliow the heading
- Greg
Chat storing could save Youtube lots of work to add metadata to their video. But they still must develop audio-indexing.
- Jérôme Flipo
jim, steve's addressed the feed issue on friendfeed this week
- Chris Heath
I'm not saying anything is wrong with friendfeed I'm just not seeing it as all that different than other things.
- jccalhoun
Andrew: Use the permalink (timestamp) to open the chat in it's own window and get the comment button at the bottom
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
jim, go look at my comments on the most recent gillmor gang on the techcrunch site
- Chris Heath
so, the FF chat is more like scrolling comments on a blog (yeah, I'ma n00b)
- aBruchis
andrew: or add ?embed=1 to the url
- Chris Heath
Dave should call in or play his audio. Apparently he has something to say here.
- Jim Posner
Awww thanks everyone. They really should make that default IMHO
- Andrew Johnson
aBruchis, that was your first FF comment :) Welcome here.
- Jérôme Flipo
got a big buffer and timeshift on the BG stream just now
- Chris Heath
Someone on the show can play Winer's audio
- jccalhoun
if you click the time stamp you get the embed window
- ralphsaunders
an inconvenient truth perhaps
- Jim Posner
Fhew I need to take a break from the IRC.... Moves much too fast.
- Colin
thank you guruvan, much better
- Denise Howell
I routinely open the timestamp-link in another tab to track older conversations
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
:-)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I am having trouble with the Bit Gravity stream every weak
- Francine Hardaway
steve's points are like pulling teeth
- Jackson Pollock
Hello all
- Edward Perry
Robert Scoble, bring up Dave Winer's audio
- Matthew
lsitening to Dave Winer's audio now
- Bwana ☠
forgot how cool blogtalkradio is
- Bwana ☠
Matthew: I will.
- Robert Scoble
Jackson - agreed.
- Jeff Harbert
robert is on the move it looks like
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Francine Hardaway, I've switched to the Ustream, it's the best one imo
- Matthew
mike, yeah he's been moving about a lot today
- Chris Heath
Mike: I gotta watch the baby.
- Robert Scoble
also, I would suggest using the TWiT 2.0 app on leoville.com
- Matthew
Robert's boy must be up and about
- Bwana ☠
and there you go
- Bwana ☠
Can someone pop up the ustream link, please?
- CAJ, somewhere else
You asked for it Steve.
- Colin
Please play it Leo
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
We're playing Dave Winer's audio.
- Robert Scoble
Play it leo
- Denise Howell
ahh - wait till "watching the baby" means running around chasing a toddler :)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
yay!
- Bwana ☠
I want a Trac-a-pottamus
- Gabe
Or, more accurately, Leo is playing it.
- Robert Scoble
/patiently waits
- Jamie
Dave sounds like he's on a plane :)
- Jérôme Flipo
It's going to sound like Bobby Fisher's rant against the US and Israel.
- Jackson Pollock
ustream link http://ustream.tv/flash...
- jccalhoun
cool way to step up Leo
- Jim Posner
np Leo
- Matthew
Alan: http://www.ustream.tv/channel...
- 321
realtime once removed
- Denise Howell
Thanks all!
- CAJ, somewhere else
I have to say: live video ..comments in friend feed..chat in irc..audio responses via blogtalk rado ... the realtime web is pretty cool
- BryanSchuetz
I don't think Dave really understands the point Steve is trying to make
- Jamie
it's cool that a lot of this show is happening through Friendfeed
- Matthew
Matthew; i'd hear him out first
- Jackson Pollock
hmm, semantic nitpicking
- Preternat (Ken Cadby)
very cool..many kudo's Leo..
- Jim Posner
dave sees "rss" and "dead" and ignores the point.
- Jamie
so the wordstar format isn't dead then?
- jccalhoun
hmmm? what do you mean Jackson Pollock?
- Matthew
jccalhoun; never was alive
- Jackson Pollock
Matthew; he isn't done yet and you disagree
- Jackson Pollock
:)
- Bwana ☠
Is that twhirl leo is using?
- ralphsaunders
about what?
- Matthew
what are you referring to Jackson Pollock?
- Matthew
the real headline is "RSS isnt right for real time."
- Jamie
via identi.ca: dave: New BlogTalkRadio voice message: http://tr.im/mdWf
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
I think Dave just takes the word "dead" too personally
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
RSS won't die - it is a delivery tool, not a messaging tool
- Joshua Dale
^
- Jamie
you're saying that he doesn't get Steve's point, and he's not even done explaining himself yet
- Jackson Pollock
which is understandable, given its his baby
- Jamie
RSS Enterprise
- Preternat (Ken Cadby)
Cripes! It's 15 minutes. Will Leo play it all?
- Greg Byrne
I haven't quite figured it out yet, but the more I use FF, the more I use GReader (and really hadn't been before)
- Denise Howell
Jackson Pollock, what exact comment are you talking about? are you sure it was me who said it?
- Matthew
Great! Now we have one more Winer. LOL
- MarK
So Dave Winer is on the show without being on the show....hmmm
- Tina Chase Gillmor
@jackson dave has addressed it many times on his blog the past 2 weeks.
- Jamie
Matthew; very sorry. that was all aimed at Jamie
- Jackson Pollock
this is exactly what winer wants. he wants the attention and they are giving it to him
- jccalhoun
would you want a real time news paper
- Webferret
np Jackson Pollock, you had me scratching my head
- Matthew
real time is great..very visceral..a beautiful thang..thanks to both Steve and Dave
- Jim Posner
Webferret: no I want realtime headlines, and I want the news to lie around waiting for me to read it
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Doesn't the Kindle use RSS?
- Jackson Pollock
@jackson yes
- Denise Howell
podcasting is all RSS
- Jackson Pollock
@guruvan same here
- Webferret
maybe podcasting is dead?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
noo
- Jamie
this is akin to IMAP vs Push
- Jamie
calling things dead is dead
- jccalhoun
Here in Norway, many government institutes use RSS to keep their websites updated and up to date
- Jackson Pollock
That's about all I get out of my twitter stream too - realtime headlines
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Dead pundintry is dead
- Bwana ☠
I know you were joking Leo, but realtime isn't slow, it's the delay on your show feed that made you wait
- Matthew
Bring back smoke signals and the teletype!
- CAJ, somewhere else
i would rather watch in a web browser than wait to download a podcast in itunes or other software
- DeMedici
yeah matthew
- Chris Heath
+2 Alan
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
dead is dead... I like that! ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
me too tina
- Chris Heath
It is an EXPIRED parrot!
- CAJ, somewhere else
podcasting's not dead, just becoming more textured
- Denise Howell
active
- Jackson Pollock
google reader is my newspaper ff is my realtime headlines
- Webferret
thanks largely to leo ;)
- Denise Howell
ah so this is the friendfeed chat (Dltq here)
- Raymond M. Kristiansen
alan, It's only resting! Lovely plumage
- aBruchis
heck, FTP is technically "dead" but it's still in use today
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Denise, why only one TWiL a month??
- Matthew
I wrote "Live TV is dead" a while back...
- Kevin Marks
Webferret: exactly I use both FF and Twitter for headlines, but I get conversation about the news on FF -
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
radio isn't dead, newspapers aren't dead. talking face to face is Not dead
- Raymond M. Kristiansen
will this show ever make it to RSS? a defining moment
- Jim Posner
Geocities is dead
- Matthew
How do people get their news? Through Twitter? I have an RSS reader and get them that way, what's better than that?
- Jackson Pollock
Jackson: TechMeme/Memeorandum
- Robert Scoble
Matthew, Kid/family. I LOVE doing TWiL, plan/hope to step up frequency in the fall.
- Denise Howell
Jackson: The same feeds in friendfeed filtered by various things.
- Robert Scoble
Robert; you've been talking about that for years, but did it really ever take off?
- Jackson Pollock
internet fail ><
- ralphsaunders
Hope so Denise, it's a great podcast, even if a lot of it goes over my head
- Matthew
Jackson: it took off more than Google Reader has.
- Robert Scoble
Jackson: I get more traffic from TechMeme when I'm on it.
- Robert Scoble
:) Will work on that last part.
- Denise Howell
Denise Great news Twit Army looks forward to it
- Andrew Johnson
for me, Twitter extends my GReader / news reading experience. I can go and subscribe to a writer and such and such
- Matthew
Hey Scoble have you played with Microplaza? = http://microplaza.com | wishing friend feed could do some of that stuff
- BryanSchuetz
Steve Gillmors work on attention has been very inspirational for me, but mostly as a philosophical concept - so far the implementations haven't blown me away. yet.
- Raymond M. Kristiansen
I dropped off the IRC chat. The friendfeed chat is better because I know who I am talking to and because these chats stick around.
- Robert Scoble
I like the way Steve is phrasing this
- Hilary Talbot
Thanks Andrew!
- Denise Howell
robert - we'll have to solve that problem for you
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
I have to run and get Milan some milk.
- Robert Scoble
the video of the exploding ball is pretty funny. ;-)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Leo's ball exploding http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Matthew
Mike: IRC is so 1995.
- Robert Scoble
Mike: give it up, I'm not going back.
- Robert Scoble
robert - :)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
robert im on freindfeed now but its not easy to get started
- DeMedici
How do you post a new comment without going back to the top?
- Willowdale
Aww Robert, there's a place for it ;)
- Colin
Willowdale, click the timestamp twice and it will open a mini pop up of just the comments
- Matthew
willowdale - open the chat in it's own window by right clicking on the link that is the timestamp
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Willowdale: https://friendfeed.com/twit-co...
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Dead is a terrible word.
- Bwana ☠
thing are never dead, they just start to fade while other rise
- Marcos Detry
how do I higlight posts where my name is mentioned in friendfeed or alert me when someone mentions my name?
- Greg
it's inaccurate
- Bwana ☠
great, thanks everyone
- Willowdale
deprecated
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Willowdale: click on the time stamp.
- Robert Scoble
Where else can an Apple employee hide under a false nickname and spill details on seomthing he's working on without getting in trouble?
- Colin
it's semantics
- Chris Heath
it's not dead, ...something else is "Drinking it's milkshake"
- BryanSchuetz
I said Live Tv is dead: http://epeus.blogspot.com/2006...
- Kevin Marks
Willowdale: that will open up a new window.
- Robert Scoble
sick?
- Preternat (Ken Cadby)
Got it thanks Robert
- Willowdale
What about all the people that still do not know what RSS is...will they every see it
- TonyatMATC
Steve knows what he's doing, I think the recipe includes a big cup of linkbait
- Matthew
frames it very badly apparantly
- Tony, Paradox of FF
what does gillmor use if he doesn't use MS Office?
- jccalhoun
semantics? Ok, I'll play. Web browsers are dead.
- Bwana ☠
jccalhoun: Google Docs/Spreadsheets. I'm using that almost exclusively now too.
- Robert Scoble
All these competing/parallel chats...Kevin and Steve remember the back channel at the first AO Summit. This is some sort of weird stepchild. ;)
- Denise Howell
I now understand why these calls will not get released
- Jim Posner
@Scoble me too
- TonyatMATC
The Razr is dead... hah
- Colin
RSS has reached adulthood and growing old, maybe!
- pmclem
Robert Scoble that's what I assumed
- jccalhoun
Live Sports is dead
- Bwana ☠
semantics is pretty huge in journalism, saying it's "dead" is a huge statement, not a missunderstang
- aBruchis
bwana - html is dead - at least according to the whatwg guys
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
google docs gets laughed at in the enterprise. but I understand the point about collaboration.
- Jamie
blasphemy Bwana
- Matthew
Leo: I think Calliflower is beginning to charge for long distance:-)
- Francine Hardaway
I can keep going
- Bwana ☠
Howard didn't like the Pre
- Jackson Pollock
Jamie: not for much longer, methinks
- Denise Howell
the iphone wasn;t originally transformative! Needed 3g + App store
- Chris Lloyd
can't wait for football season, football has always been in real time
- Matthew
The Palm Pre isn't going to make an impact.
- Peter Kruit
It will be interesting to see if Steve has the balls to release this show.
- Jim Posner
Podcasting is dead - We're watching a dead podcast
- Bwana ☠
Zombies!
- Bwana ☠
Christopher, I think it was, it owned the touch screen without a keyboard. That's tough to pull off.
- Colin
Even I don't use Office anymore. I use either IWork or Google docs
- Francine Hardaway
Pre will never compete with the iPhone in the gaming arena (and thus the consumer market) at least. Might do ok in the business market.
- invariant - farewell FF
NO MICROSOFT products on my Mac except Silverlight for Netflix stream...Feels so good! :)
- Mike Bracco
podcasting is about timeshifting. rss doesn't have to be the glue that delivers it.
- Jamie
invariant: I disagree. The Pre will have Flash. iPhone won't.
- Robert Scoble
Pre will be a better alternative to a Blackberry than the iPhone is
- Matthew
the iPhone forced blackberry to really improve it's browser
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
So, the Pre will get tons of games from casual gaming sites
- Robert Scoble
That's where you get it wrong. That has nothing to do with it. The iphone would've died if MS released it. The iPhone is far beyond that.
- Jackson Pollock
instead of dead steve should say zombified - living dead
- DeMedici
SMS is dead
- Bwana ☠
lol bwana
- Raymond M. Kristiansen
RSS is a Zombie
- Matthew
whats the lightest twitter app on resources?
- ralphsaunders
/me bumps into bwana to get him out of his rut
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
phones are the whole reason, guys
- Joshua Dale
Colin: It was new, but compared to N95 and other phones in europe, it had too many limitations, it as only for hardcore users, it wasn't untill 3g (See the lines, stock problems) that it became a must have transformative game changing device
- Chris Lloyd
Alright so next month what if the iphone does video calling, every other phone instantly dead? I think so! ;)
- Colin
Robert, I'll grant you that, but we'll see how well Flash runs on it.
- invariant - farewell FF
thanks bear :D
- Bwana ☠
Zombies are dead, sorta
- Andrew Johnson
sms never took of in the US because of the cost associated with it. Twitter is free and thats what made it a killer app.
- Ash
Tina: what *is* up with no non-realtime version of the show? (Apologies if this has been done to death.) Timeshifting's not dead. ;)
- Denise Howell
Colin - right
- Tina Chase Gillmor
kevin - when is Google IO going to be somewhere besides SanFran?
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
christopher it also went on sale in about 50 other countries
- Jamie
ohh!! one more
- Bwana ☠
RSS is undead!
- Bwana ☠
I win!
- Bwana ☠
RSS is Re-Animated
- Matthew
twitter is growing pretty fast in Europe too, but i doubt we will see big sms usage decline for a few more years
- Raymond M. Kristiansen
Denise we're working on something
- Tina Chase Gillmor
SMS is the worst rip off in history. Isn't it like $1,000/MB or something like that?
- Mike Bracco
lol @ Bwana
- Andrew Johnson
'sides, if you're chatting, you need to listen to the actual show after the fact.
- Denise Howell
Jamie: Good point
- Chris Lloyd
use a high pitch tone Youtube
- Bwana ☠
that works well
- Bwana ☠
mike; you crazy americans. every other country adopted SMS 8 years ago.
- Jackson Pollock
Ah, good.
- Denise Howell
We did Google Develoepr Days around the world last year, and have several lined up this year too
- Kevin Marks
Why hasn't Google killed Google video with YouTube?
- Mike Bracco
what happened to youtube search?
- Jamie
Google Video is Dead-reincarnated
- Bwana ☠
kevin - yea, but it's coverage of api's is no where near what happens in GoogleIO
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
its really gone to pot recently.
- Jamie
now the after show begins
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Vat69. It is the only right choice
- Jackson Pollock
No, but having some Crystal Skull Vodka, it's lovely.
- Denise Howell
my first twit in ages - how is the aftershow?
- Raymond M. Kristiansen
did Steve end the show or not?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
yes
- Bwana ☠
yes, he said the magic words
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Robert, what are your thoughts on Dolphin 6.
- DeMedici
Tina You must ask that a lot. ;)
- Denise Howell
visicalc is dead
- Preternat (Ken Cadby)
lol @ denise
- Jamie
well, GDD is one day, I/O is two, and they are smaller, but they are just as deep - I did 4 myself in Europe. 3 lined up already: http://code.google.com/events...
- Kevin Marks
I like that friend feed doesn't have anyone telling you what you can and can't say. Unlike IRC.
- Willowdale
a lot
- Tina Chase Gillmor
think I need a drink right about now
- Tina Chase Gillmor
TWEETING TOO HARD IS BACK UP! check out. HILARIOUS - http://tweetingtoohard.com/top
- Mike Bracco
E3
- Matthew
Pre will be so sold out
- Bwana ☠
it'll be worse than the Wii
- Bwana ☠
It's not over 'til Arrington's the last one standing.
- Denise Howell
willowdale i like that ff doesn't have so many jerks that need to be moderated
- Preternat (Ken Cadby)
my wife will kill me if I get a Pre
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
<3 the friendfeed notifier
- Jamie
Customer: "When will you get some more Pre's in?" Best Buy Rep: "April 2010"
- Bwana ☠
Good choice Scoble! Toyota wins best quality, best price and happiest customers in Norway
- Jackson Pollock
What happened to Youtube streaming? Didn't they have a big live event celebrating that? Heh.
- Nick in Manila
They were always like that, Leo.
- CAJ, somewhere else
I like Makers Mark more than Bulleitt
- Ron Felton
what's the percentage of stick-shifts in the US these days?
- Jackson Pollock
Scoble and Bourbon? Oh NO
- Tina Chase Gillmor
/me passes Tina a memorial day margarita
- Andrew Johnson
Yes, Tina. Steve ended the show. And???
- Francine Hardaway
I wouldn't trust that
- Matthew
Right... the show never ends... not for me anyway
- Tina Chase Gillmor
gm has had the adaptive cruise control for a few years now
- Chris Heath
Robert: seen that in big trucks
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I want to go to Petaluma. Robert, I will drive your new Prius home...and you if you want
- Francine Hardaway
Thats insane, and scary
- aBruchis
yar
- Bwana ☠
Coffee soon Francine?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
no building!?!?
- Bwana ☠
robert - is there room for people with skill specialties in your Building43 ?
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
no building for building43?!?! :P
- Bwana ☠
mike i'm sure there is... it's an inclusive community from what i hear
- Chris Heath
get Savage!
- Jackson Pollock
they better get on FF, or Robert will declare they're stupid :)
- Bwana ☠
would love to help folks with XMPP stuff
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
you built a private room.. you hit three buttons, let's be honest
- Jackson Pollock
no one's going to do that Robert
- Bwana ☠
I am going to use it that way for teaching my students
- TonyatMATC
People won't even build a list or hide items now
- Bwana ☠
private rooms would kill a lot of conversation on friendfeed
- Matthew
Beach Boys: "In my room...
- Denise Howell
I don't know bwana - I hide items and have many lists -- just avoiding using a lot of that until they get the API up
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Twit Conversations doesn't show up in my groups list
- Matthew
I do too
- Bwana ☠
why wasnt it building42? we all know 42 beats all numbers
- Raymond M. Kristiansen
secret posts ;-)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Matthew Not even when you expand?
- Denise Howell
I believe a vast majority of FriendFeed users don't hide nor create lists
- Bwana ☠
friend feed is becoming the best
- Rene Castro
Denise... funny I was just thinking bout that song too
- Tina Chase Gillmor
it's anonymous only to the users - the FF mail gateway knows
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
customer support complaints
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
yes Denise
- Matthew
sorry already the best
- Rene Castro
Email is Undead
- Bwana ☠
lol Bwana
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
oh email is dead
- Tina Chase Gillmor
tina FTW!
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
kevin just got younger
- Rene Castro
I keep unsubscribing and subscribing to Twit Conversations, but it's never in my list of groups
- Matthew
Gmail is growing
- Jérôme Flipo
andrew, henry and patrick
- Jackson Pollock
Steve: That's one of the very best features of FriendFeed - the management pay attention and plays along with the rest of us
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
boom
- Bwana ☠
Loving Andrew Marks
- Francine Hardaway
get a kid on the show and they'll contradict the whole conversation :D
- Bwana ☠
Matthew Must be an exclusivity thing. ;) FOG (Friends of Gillmor)
- Denise Howell
Oh how cute is he??
- Denise Howell
LOL
- Bwana ☠
blog is old media
- Rene Castro
Kevin's son is so adorable
- Tina Chase Gillmor
OK, web sites are passe. So that answers Scoble's question on what makes a website 2010. It doesn't exist.
- Francine Hardaway
Blogging is nearly undead. It got bit by an undead RSS feed.
- Bwana ☠
Blogging isn't dead, but blogging on one platform is dead. And right, blogs used to be shorter.
- Francine Hardaway
twitter is messaging not bloggin
- Joshua Dale
oh man
- Bwana ☠
LONG is good.
- Raymond M. Kristiansen
I think you're right Denise
- Matthew
The destruction of society as we know it. Lazier and fatter. Idiocracy, check it out.
- Jackson Pollock
Leo actually said too much work
- Bwana ☠
Been blogging since 2000. Archives are on WP from 2002. Much shorters posts in the past.
- Francine Hardaway
everything is what you make it
- Andrew Johnson
the man who's a one man tv studio
- Bwana ☠
ok one man, one woman
- Bwana ☠
FOG?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
For Leo, that's true
- Francine Hardaway
Inchoate. Good word
- Francine Hardaway
Yours, with my blessing Tina.
- Denise Howell
he's doing top secret kid stuff
- Bwana ☠
I've got a new podcast idea. The Snakepit. Hosts Gillmour, Dvorak, Calcanis and Winer. I think it could really take off.
- Jackson Pollock
I keep buffering
- Tina Chase Gillmor
these kids will have me out of a job :-)
- Jamie
i kept buffering on IE but not on Google Chrome
- Raymond M. Kristiansen
might be a short list Denise ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Tina, Bit Gravity does that
- Francine Hardaway
I can't wait for the kids to kick us old folks out of all the power spots
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
thats because chrome is made of WIN
- ralphsaunders
I know... sometimes sucks
- Tina Chase Gillmor
tina ustream or stickam will probably work better for you
- Preternat (Ken Cadby)
I was buffering on Firefox, so I switched over to Chrome and it was ok for about 10 min, now its buffering again.
- Tony, Paradox of FF
Abby's Road... cute
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Abbey Road wasn't suppose to be called Abbey Road. It was originally named Mount Everest
- Jackson Pollock
McCartney said, let's just go across the street and take a picture, cheaper, easier.
- Jackson Pollock
Another crazy Saturday afternoon.
- Robert Scoble
Thanks for joining us.
- Robert Scoble
thanks Tina
- Hilary Talbot
wooo yeah
- ralphsaunders
Good show.
- Willowdale
Thanks Robert
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
thanks for another great GG
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Ach, you folks haven't followed Kevin since the cooling of the earth (or shortly thereafter) http://funnystories.blogspot.com/
- Denise Howell
After show was teh best bit!
- Chris Lloyd
Good show today
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
This show should be renamed "This Week in Social Media"
- ralphsaunders
thanks everyone.... you people make this show a valuable experience
- Tina Chase Gillmor
youtube is going turn into only to silly cat videos as things like Hulu have all the real content.
- Mike Bracco
oooh... never heard this before!
- Chris Lloyd
Since I use Miro for all my main youtube subscriptions, its all already downloaded.
- Tony, Paradox of FF
See ya all! Going to watch The Treasure of the Sierra Madre...
- Jérôme Flipo
if you pass a cirtain file to youtube... there's no re-encoding
- Chris Lloyd
Thanks Tina, fun to make it live for a change.
- Denise Howell
Can't Leo just record it locally?
- Greg Byrne
Off to other tasks - Have fun y'all :-)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Denise.... holler when you come to town
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Will do, been too long
- Denise Howell
saw a women like that last night
- ralphsaunders
never seen steves kids before.
- Jamie
Any idea why the podcast hasn't been updated in over a month? Has GG moved back to a live only format?
- Adi
Reading aloud is dead! :-)
- invariant - farewell FF
Beat me to it, invariant, lol
- Tony, Paradox of FF
Just saw the Leo bursting ball video. Can't stop laughing...Now my wife thinks I should get one
- TonyatMATC
Bye Ella, Steve, Leo, all.
- Denise Howell
hi from georgia soundeing good and looking good
- daveccorey
You don't have to have everything anymore with FF notifier. You can pick and choose very specifically.
- Tony, Paradox of FF
Go lefty's!
- Tony, Paradox of FF
Are they going to re-run GG. I missed it.
- Wo
Re-run at 5:30 for Gillmor?
- Wo
yes 5:30
- Tina Chase Gillmor
great!
- Wo
not being able to download Gilmor Gang and it only being live sucks... then again the shows is kind of getting boring and repiticious.
- Joel Asaro
They're looking into video downloads of the show... waiting for youtube to allow downloads apparently???
- Chris Lloyd
C Lloyd, they've got an a/v sync problem. Apparently when YouTube does its encoding the sync is skewed.
- Chris Heath
Though discussion because it touches on too many dimensions: RSS as a data format, RSS as a client experience, RSS as a latency, RSS as a solitary experience compared to twitter as a social experience.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
RSS (ATOM) is going to continue to be a key extensible data integration format (as proven) by the work on Atom Pub and the Activity Stream initiatives.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
But new experiences will be built on top of the RSS data integration platform (which will evolve from a simple pull to a combination of push and pull). Many new experience to adapt to both the fact that an increasing number of people are mobile, an increasing number of people want to use their social connections as a filter and an increasing number of people like to check new more often than in the past.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Just watched the re-run, RSS is not dead (yet) but it's not the main technology used for key innovations in realtime, which is Gillmor's point and finally it's getting understood by others.
- Alberto Saavedra
I am waiting for Google to buy Friendfeed and to kill Twitter and Facebook
- Charbax
1141 PM IN GEORGIA GOOD NIGHT EVERY 1 SWEET DREAMS SEE YA SOON
- daveccorey
Missed the show again today, but trying to read over the comments... was it just another round of people talking past each other about whether "RSS is Dead"?
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken: pretty much!
- Robert Scoble
Lovely.
- Ken Sheppardson
Wouldn't it be awesome if these comments could sync up to a recording of the audio/video? FF needs to start time tagging comments for a start.
- invariant - farewell FF
invariant: the speech bubble to the left of the comment has a relative timestamp if you mouse over it.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Looks like it isn't fine-grained enough (starts rounding to the hour).
- invariant - farewell FF
I keep pushing for absolute timestamps on those rather than relative ones.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
The API will give you absolute times.
- Raphael, Raphael
quite right. I see them in f2p for sure.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
My ZenV battey life is now too short to last the day. My old Iriver iFP-795 (uses normal batteries) would be the perfect MP3 player if only it had bookmarking function. Because it uses normal batteries you can take it on a weeklong camping trip. Can't do that with any other MP3 player on the market today.
I was wrong: http://reviews.cnet.com/4321-64...
- Tokyo Dan
My dream almost comes true: Casinos in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania: http://www.pasands.com
I'm from Johnstown, PA. One of my dreams was to return home with billions of dollars, flood the town to cover the rotting steel mills and create casinos and resorts around the man-made lake. There'd be boating and swimming in the summer (imagine diving to get a look at the old submerged steel mills) and skiing in the winter, with Las Vegas-style entertainment year-round.
- Tokyo Dan
My father worked for Bethlehem Steel all of his life. Now many rusty steel mills rot unattended in this valley town that is surrounded by mountains. Johnstown is like a hole in the earth which makes it susceptible to floods. http://tinyurl.com/rd3hj9 There have been three major floods: 1889, 1936 and 1977. 2,200 people were killed in the 1889 flood which was caused by the rich steel...
more...
- Tokyo Dan
Job: Scenario writer for artificial intelligence - Tokyo, 3.6M Yen/Year". U gotta be kiddin! A person with the qualifications stated should get at least 10M yen/year. - https://jobs.gaijinpot.com/index...
Do you Poken? Click here to see a Poken in action and learn more about how business cards might go away:
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http://wwww.doyoupoken.com is what you're looking at. Here the founder, Stephane Doutriaux is demonstrating them.
- Robert Scoble
My Poken is the pink one. You hold it against his. They automatically have "poken sex" and trade your information, which you can then see up on the DoYouPoken website. Very cute and would have saved me a lot of money in scanning business cards in.
- Robert Scoble
That is, if everyone had them. Right now they are too expensive to go really viral, though.
- Robert Scoble
Most stupidest thing ever IMHO.
- Peter Kruit
Robert, I have one. I agree with You, too expensive (15 euro each one)
- Luca Conti
I can't wait until these are cheap and available to everyone, which hopefully will be soon.
- Trish R
12 of them costs about $189, which is way too much. If they can get the cost down to $1 or $2 a piece, then I could see them taking off. Until then, they are fun game if you get one for free at a conference or something like that.
- Robert Scoble
in italy poken is amazing and overbooked !!!!
- michele ficara
This is hilarious! Poken sex is better than no sex! I actually heard something about the iphone app that sort of does this by exchanging info as you get close to another iphone user who also has the app. I do think physical cards will go away.
- Sheryl
I would get one seems like fun
- Matt Bebich
probably wont catch on here in the states, but cool idea
- sean percival
It's a cool technology, though, and lots of fun to do at a conference if everyone has them (they are building them into badge holders, too).
- Robert Scoble
Way too expensive, and would you really ask a client "Do you Poken"?
- Bruce Fraser
Pondering Facebook pokes in a whole new unhealthy way...
- Ken Camp
They need to make one of those with "The Big Blue Monster" from GapingVoid on them :)
- Sean Kearney
If I asked questions like that in some of the pubs I go to it would be the last question I asked :-)
- Gordon Wheeler
What happens if someone just walks by and they have one do they automatically get your information
- Matt Bebich
Gordon: I wouldn't advise using that as a pickup line! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Matt: no. They have to touch to exchange information.
- Robert Scoble
I have one but at the moment not so many people have a Poken!
- Michela Cimnaghi /cimny
Oh, and they have "executive" versions coming out that don't look cartoonish.
- Robert Scoble
Sean, when they go down in price, they will totally catch on in the U.S. I went to a conference here in Houston where your badge was also a thumb drive with everyone's contact info on it and we were talking about how handy these will be when people are using them.
- Trish R
embed this tech into a mobile and you have a winner
- Richard Spalding
I just checked them out... The price for one isn't ridiculous. Under $20. I've spent more on memory keys and Walkie Talkies in the past. :)
- Sean Kearney
Consider the cost of a box of business cards before saying these are too expensive. Richard +1
- Justin Hopkins
Business cards can be used with everyone, these things can't (yet) Cards are still king.
- Bruce Fraser
I thought you couldn't buy them individually yet.
- Trish R
I like the idea. It's definitely neat. I would pay for a "Poken" with a custom logo on it. It definitely is unique.
- Sean Kearney
FireBox sell then here in the U.K.
- Bruce Fraser
This won't even last as long as sending vcards via IR.
- Hartley Spurlock
Would love to have one but can imagine me never encountering anyone to Poken in my world. At least not in the near future.
- suecosby
We do Poken Robert! And we also organized a Poken Party for the launch of the new FIAT 500 Cabrio in Milan: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Marco Massarotto
If they are going to replace business card maybe they should not make them look like something that comes with a Happy Meal.
- Brendan Clancy
Maybe they should give them away with Happy Meals, then we'd all have one...
- Bruce Fraser
There are new models coming that look very "executive."
- Robert Scoble
And if they really went viral, and someone Pokened profligately and started spreading PSTDs that ruined your Poken's ability to replicate...
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Scoble: $1 or $2? $10 seems worth it, the savings in business cards alone could justify the expense. executive would be a plus... (i'm picturing a monkey in a suit.)
- Marco
Saw these about six months ago and thought it was a fart in the wind. Can't believe this is still around.
- Chris Menning
I'm all for adding a bit of fun to productivity. We take ourselves so freaking seriously all the time. This seems like a useful step away from somber zombiefication. Now for the corporate types who want faceless uniformity, surely custom Poken with suitably unremarkable appearances and all the functionality could become reality. Am I FFing myself out of my next job? Maybe I should go for a ride.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Robert -- i've got a cute little Geisha girl one. They're up to cool stuff. The cool thing is, the info isn't stored so if you lose it, you don't give up info. It's just an exchange of ID's. I love them. Ok, i'm partial. Had dinner with Renate and she rocks. Don't write cuteness off just yet guys. They're up to stuff. :)
- Christine Lu
I have one, KPMG gave some Poken at a professional forum for my school. I think, there are two problems. First it really doesn't look business, but as you said, a business version is coming. And, it only works with another poken, it should works with Iphone or blackberry using the bluetooth and a free application we can download for Iphone or Blackberry.
- tristan
I still have a few Pokens that I'm willing to give away... Read: http://www.aadjemonkeyrock.com/2009...
- Aad 't Hart
Yeah, I still remember when Palm's IR beaming was going to kill business cards...
- Joel Bennett
This is the most bizarre idea I have ever heard of, but I like it. I doubt this will ever catch on though, unless it becomes cheaper and more "professional". I can't see cute little avatars being taken seriously in real world business.
- Angus Burton
they could be free and then it would be possibile to buy and exchange virtual goods. I do not see any future for business card: it is something that you can do with your mobile phone and I wonder why it is not yet implemented in the address book.
- Nicola Mattina
Really strange idea to replace personal cards...
- Marcos Vicente
you can get them in States at www.startpoken.com
- Roger Huitt
Mobile phones need to adopt/embrace this technology. I think it'll be a hit.
- Richard Merritt
There's also an app that does this for the iPhone... http://www.bumptechnologies.com/ Just need one for the BB. ;-)
- cmiper
I really think that business card will go digital.
- Keven
... the business card already has gone digital. Check out Contxts http://contxts.com -- I've been using it for a few months now... Works Great. And Saves Trees!
- Richard Merritt
Try it here if you'd like to see it in action... SMS/Text the word: RichardMerritt to 50500
- Richard Merritt
I do poken. It's been a while :-)
- Paul Papadimitriou
If u meet a sexy babe in a club, a sure way to turn her off is to pull out your poken.
- Tokyo Dan
I met a girl. I gave her a good poken. It was her first poken. Now she gives every man a good poken.
- Tokyo Dan
If you want to get arrested in Japan, walk into a police box and pull out your poken.
- Tokyo Dan
Need a design that more effectively accommodates the Japanese meishi-kokan culture.
- Daniel Fath
I like this. Even tried to buy a 12-pack. Link is broken. This does not bode well for this company.
- Leo Laporte
Once they get Poken with a bigger size limit (I think you can only store the contact information of 12 contacts at one time), maybe add a few more useful features in there as well, then we'll have a good product. Make them look like real high-tech business cards and THEN it will really catch on.
- Malcolm Bastien
@LeoLaporte Yes the website is their biggest weakness. The "card" information editor is abysmal.
- KyleHase
Cute and all but seriously, no businessman outside silicon valley is going to carry one of these things around.
- David Jacobs
Good point tristan: "it should works with Iphone or blackberry using the bluetooth and a free application we can download for Iphone or Blackberry".
- Jadito
Reminds me of that line from Singles when that once character is trying to convince everyone that they will want to ride the train but everyone answers, "but i love my car". People love business cards for better or worse, it's a way to be a designer without being one.
- adolfo foronda
You can store 64 identities on the current model. Once you reach that limit, it erases the first one. The device signals you at 60. I have three poken, just in case, but most of the time, I don't reach that limit. As soon as I go to my Mac and connect with doyoupoken.com, contacts are saved.
- Paul Papadimitriou
Note: beware of putting multiple pokens in one pocket: they talk to each other ;-)
- Paul Papadimitriou
I love the idea/bought 12 and have tried to push them a bit with my networking group however the lack of effort on the companies part to promote them in the US is really slowing things down. Adoption will not come with out some serious evangelism and seeding on the companies part.
- Joel Ordesky
Poken are doing great here in Japan. I helped the launch at a blogger event a couple of months back and there's been steady progress since then. I'm helping evangelize Poken here. The company has really done a lot of thinking in order to make Poken a success. Will definitely be interested to see whether they can get to a critical mass. I certainly hope so as they are are a huge time and cost saver. (If you think of the cost of one business card, one unit will pay for itself in a short amount of time).
- Andrew Shuttleworth
@ashuttleworth You're the Poken Pimp of Tokyo. Most people I've pokened said they got it from you.
- KyleHase
Always happy to pimp a good thing :-)
- Andrew Shuttleworth
@papadimitriou The Poken are conspiring against you. Quick, wrap them in foil before they know too much.
- KyleHase
The Poken are clearly conspiring against me :-) Hey, I'm the official evangelist along with Andrew, so I had to test things out for you all ^^
- Paul Papadimitriou
Had a nice chat with Robert Scoble a few weeks back where I offered him a Poken by mail. He didn't know what I was talking about at first but then realized he had forgotten he had received one at SXSW. I mentioned how popular and relevant they were becoming and didn't receive a response. Wondering: what has changed to make them interesting now?
- Robert Sanzalone
Poken hype or no hype ? In the Netherlands it's a great success and Belgium is following.
- Mike Verdugt
robert do you remember when i first showed you that at last LeWeb08 in Paris in the cab?
- Ouriel Ohayon
No I don't (yet), what about you?
- Gianluigi Cuccureddu
I have one but I haven't met anyone else with one yet in the UK. Think it's a great idea and reckon it won't be long before businesses are using them.
- Lindsay Davies
what do they say about a fool and their money?
- Gee Ranasinha
Why can't this just be on a phone, seems like a waste of money to have a separate piece of hardware
- Ben
Complete waste of space. Buy a Poken but nobody has one. Pointless. Should be a phone as everyone else says. It's been said over and over with this product, why don't they just patent the technology and sell it to a mobile phone maker? Job done. Tired of these bullshit Web 2.0 gimmicks...
- Andrew Eglinton
Cucat, anyone? - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- John Craft
I actually think http://www.mynameise.com will appeal much more to people actually using business cards. The connector is coming and brings much more than people giving each other an online card to look at. They did not win The Next Web Award for nothing :)
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
There's a free app on the IPhone called 'Bump' that does the same thing as far as I can see.
- Rob Bell
They have been available in the United States for 2 months at www.startpoken.com
- Roger Huitt
Cool! Poken are available in Japan too, at http://poken.jp/en/ . Buy one and get poken!
- Rick Cogley
They are here in NZ but I don't know anyone who has one and it's all about mass adoption - I prefer the snapdat iphone app - you can get someone to download it on the spot and bam - you got their details.
- James Stewart
@kaijuu Recumbent bike's from http://terratrike.com - they sent me one for review now can't get me off. I'm thinking of mounting a PC on it.
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Since you're going to keep it and ride it, invest in clipless SPD pedals and matching shoes <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...>. Biggest risk vector on a tadpole trike (=2 wheels in front/ 1 in the back; as opposed to 1/2 delta-type) is, when panic braking, or otherwise, you set down your foot on the ground and get dragged under the cross-boom, with injuries to the knee to follow. Do not imagine that could never happen to you.
- ianf ⌘
You know, I kinda assumed you had a PC mounted on everything already.
- Ryan Whitwam
I could see you using a small swivel-mount like they use on airplane seats, mounting a netbook there, 3G internets...
- Lucavex Ayanami
Try the Garmin 705 Leo https://buy.garmin.com/shop...
- Scott Kraatz
"Banning Fast Bikes From Racing?" Did u know that there's a type of bike that's been banned from racing since 1934 because they're faster than usual uprights? http://www.bentrideronline.com/...
- Tokyo Dan
Are you using your rubber ball seat on the 'bent'. It'd be funny to see you coming down the road bouncing and laughing like crazy.
- Tokyo Dan
Let your "thinking of mounting a PC on it" stay right there, 'cause, whether you ride it a lot or very little (more plausible), you won't have many opportunities to use it anyway. Better you stick a laptop in a well-padded saddle bag on it, after accessorizing it with a back rack: <https://www.terratrike.com/shop...>
- ianf ⌘
Might help if you had the right size bike Leo, but love the fitness motif.
- Kevin J Hatton
The black Rickie Lee Jones and the female Lenny Kravitz - http://www.berklee.edu/news...
I found out about this hot rock chick on the Sounds of Berklee podcast: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObje...
- Tokyo Dan
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I'll definitely check out Shea Rose because I like both Rickie Lee and Lenny Kravitz.
- Rick Cogley
Shea Rose - yeah, I like it.
- Rick Cogley
Eyeborg! A one-eyed Canadian filmmaker gets a camera-eye http://www.eyeborgblog.com/ - http://eyeborg.blogspot.com
BBC Digital Planet podcast has a great piece about this 13 Minutes in: Player: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer...
- Tokyo Dan
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most desired feature on iPhone 3rd gen.
a goddamn replaceable battery!
- Tokyo Dan
Most desired feature on iPhone 3rd gen: keyb always available in landscape mode.
- Rick Cogley
ability to customize SMS notification sounds beyond the crappy ones that Apple supplies.
- theNetImp
Does anyone else feel like this? I've always detested any job I've ever had so much that as soon as I got home after a workday I had to hide any work peraphiniallia (badges, ID cards, books, etc.) in a dark recess or corner. This was always done, so to speak, to insure that now, my real life can begin. The real me can come out and live, and the...
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"job" will not interfere. The reason I felt like this was not so much because the real work of the "job" was distasteful, but because of all the side shit that comes with every job, namely other people; the assholes and egos that have to be dealt with.
- Tokyo Dan
I'd had jobs where I felt like that.
- Jason Hill
The Unions Are Coming! The Unions Are Coming! - http://www.thebigmoney.com/article...
Wow, great Lew Rockwell podcast episode about why we need firearms - http://media.lewrockwell.com/downloa...
Tweeting the real-time song - http://andrewkeen.typepad.com/the_gre...
The killer song this spring in Silicon Valley has been real-time chirruping of the little Twitter bird. First Twitter, the micro-messaging network founded by Biz Stone, Jack Dorsey and Ev Williams in March 2006, grew its user base by over 1000% between the Spring of 2008 and 2009 – making it by far the fastest growing social network on the Internet. Then Oprah, that most viral of American media
- Tokyo Dan
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2:32am and still scribbling business plan diagrams and notes in my favourite notebook. Need sleep. Running in an ekiden on Sunday... Zzz
For your business plan diagrams and notes you need this: http://www.livescribe.com
- Tokyo Dan
Daily gear deal - Nokia N810 portable Internet terminal for $223. - http://www.gadling.com/2009...
N810 for sale in Tokyo: http://tokyo.craigslist.jp/sys...
- Tokyo Dan
Barry Eisler (John Rain in Rain fall, Rain Storm, Hard Rain, etc.) is not the first. When I first got here in early 1970 I used to read the very similar series of "Kill Me" novels in which Burns Bannion used to kick ass in Shinjuku, Shimbashi, Yoshiwara and a whole lot of other notorious loctions in Japan:...
Burns Bannion Private-eye Created by Earl Norman Tongues in certain cheeks have said Norman Thomson (Earl Norman) also created another series featuring Rick Shaw as its hero. According to Corky Alexander, the titles in this other series were Hang Me in Hong Kong, Bang Me in Bangkok, Maul Me in Malaysia, and Club Me in Cambodia. Good thing, Alexander added, the hero never got to Fukuoka.
- Tokyo Dan
"With the anticipated launch of the iPhone OS 3.0 and one billion applications downloaded to date, the rush of new applications will be tremendous and it will get harder and harder to stand out of the crowd," said SGN CEO Shervin Pishevar. - http://news.prnewswire.com/Display...
The old neighborhood store allowed many more to stand out and do well. Now, with the global internet and instant communications only the top few in the world can get ahead.
- Tokyo Dan
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could you create a feed of all the feeds in your google reader out
- Jamie Vidamour
Google reader won't do what I need it to do though.
- TheHenry
also yahoo pipes is pretty good at that sort of thing.
- felix
yahoo pipes wont do it either
- TheHenry
well, isn't that called a Group here? create a group, and add as many feeds as you want .... it's the FriendFeed :]
- Petr Buben
Microsoft PopFly?
- Ethan
I think he wants to import a lot of Google Reader feeds into FF. There isn't a bulk way to do it other than add them separately. When you have 100+ feeds, it makes it very time consuming. OPML import is required.
- Keith Bennett
All I want to do, is take like 5 RSS feeds, and view them into one RSS feed
- TheHenry
Henry, you can just create an imaginary friend (in the old interface) and then add each rss feed to it as services.
- Keith Bennett
Yes I just did Keith. It works now. Thanks for all your guys help
- TheHenry
Is this what you are looking for? http://www.feedkiller.com
- Kiran C
You can actually do this with Google Reader, you add the 5 feeds, tag them wit the same tag (put them into the same folder) then make the tag/folder public and you then have a shared RSS feed. For example, I have loads this one is for my photography feeds: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Kol Tregaskes
http://grazr.com our company will allow you to make streams like that. Pretty easily. Let me know if you want help.
- mikepk
You can import your reading list from a feed reader and/or use our drag and drop feed list editor. Then you can create a combined feed (and filter it on specific terms if you want). A free account will let you make one combined feed.
- mikepk
Yahoo Pipes is the most versatile app for RSS feeds. http://pipes.yahoo.com
- jason
Thanks, I think I will go with feedkiller though.
- TheHenry
Register on mevio.com and use Channels which allows you to build a feed of feeds.
- Tokyo Dan
try this http://melkjug.org/
- Abhishek Tiwari
xfruits rss aggregator
- TrafficBug
@Tokyo Dan, mevio seems to be for videos only
- TrafficBug
Yeah, but will grazr spit out a single feed?
- l0ckergn0me
Yahoo Pipes (it can do it, just have to force it to) or combine it into a private group here and take the RSS from that.
- xero
GReader and and YPipes are actually do what you want, but if you want the simplest way, you can try Feedweaver http://feedweaver.net/
- LouCypher
yeah, grazr will create a single feed from an OPML. Here's an example of my "firehose" combined to a single RSS feed: http://grazr.com/data...
- mikepk
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