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Family Togetherness Time
Kimitake, Johnny Worthington, M. Serdar Kuzuloglu and 106 other people liked this
Look at them sleeping. So daggone cute!
- Hutch Carpenter
Looks like Dad got a bit of schwag, too... :)
- Mark Dykeman
awesome!
- Thomas Hawk
Where are the FF onesies?! :-)
- JA Castillo
The FF onesies are way too big. My "biggest" kid is five pounds. When these guys get 3-6 months, let the schwag wagon roll.
- Louis Gray
FFTwins FTW!
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Link bait! :)
- Andrew Baron
@Louis you are such a product pimp ROFLMAO .. god love ya and yer family :)
- Steven Hodson
awwwww
- Michelle Trent
Do they have FF accounts yet?
- Johnny Worthington
aww gorgeous :) and the babies too!
- Allison
LOL that is alll kinds of win
- Mona Nomura
I've always thought it's important to establish brand awareness early on. Good job ;-)
- Jonathon
So, what are their domains and RSS feeds? I need to add them as imaginary friends for now.
- Rob Diana
Peace. That's the word that comes to my mind :)
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
good thing they are always this happy. right!
- Tim Connors
I want that shirt!
- James Hull
totally got a cool idea for new schwag... two items: for new Moms, a friend feed shirt with slots for easy feeding of infants... and for new Pops like Louis, nipple with bottle attachment inserts with one nipple coming out of the first f and the second nipple coming out of the second d... saweet!
- Rob Reed
FF schwag and twins! best picture of the day!
- Sarah Perez
Cute as a button. Akiva you crack me up. :)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
from fftogo
@Rob Reed: Awesome!
- April Buchheit
Kinda wished I had some FF schwag to wear with the newborn on the way.
- Randy Hall
The first marriage on FF cannot compete with this.
- Russellreno
Congratz.
- Bill Bittner
Mega awesome ;) Congratulations to you and your family, like the Friendfeed t-shirt ;)
- Mario Olckers
Tiny... little... eentsy... lumps of yum. There, my estrogen has officially shown itself.
- Carla Thompson
No way - they have FF onesies??? How do I get my hands on one of those?
- Jesse Stay
The Gray family Babies!!!! Sarah and Mathew look sooo cute in your arms! and sooo tiny my goodness!!... still LOL @ Rob's wacky comment..whoa!
- Susan Beebe
cool beans! workin on those biceps!
- TheMacMommy
from twhirl
So cute!
- marinka239
bring on the schwag, very cool pictures indeed
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Bump for good times
- Jesse Stay
The free genie is out of the bottle - http://www.guardian.co.uk/media...
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* Robert Andrews * The Guardian, Monday 11 May 2009 Publishers may be examining how to charge for online news, but the free ride is far from over.
- Robert Andrews
I think Twitter's "Follow Friday" and FriendFeed's "Subscribe Sunday" is an indication that there should be a dedicated user recommendation system for social media.
Peter Hoffmann, Tom Beardshaw, suelibrarian and 8 other people liked this
Come to think of it, I believe something like this for Twitter has crossed my eyes once. I forgot the name though...
- Meryn Stol
Mr Tweet?
- Martin Bryant
something like "Top Friends" on Facebook? Ideas how to do it with taste on T and FF?
- Bora Zivkovic
Bora, see what I have posted to FriendFeed feedback: http://friendfeed.com/friendf... . Public like stats would go a long way.
- Meryn Stol
I like the spontaneity of follow friday, though. with a static system, there's that awkward thing of feeling obligated to recommend someone who might not be at the top of your list but who is an acquaintance. and then I fear that whole dynamic would dilute the true value of the stats.
- Laura Norvig
Number of likes would be a pretty good measure for FF, I think.
- Meryn Stol
OMG! We're all going to die from a disease that gives you the sniffles and that nearly everybody recovers from!
Tom Beardshaw liked this
Vodafone UK launches mysterious iPhone portal - http://14sandwiches.com/2009...
Dan N. Moldovan, Nick B., Holger Eilhard and 6 other people liked this
Vodafone, the biggest mobile network in the UK, yesterday launched what appears to be a ginormous hint that they’ll be carrying the new version of the iPhone this summer. http://portal.beta.vodafone.com/ points to a Vodafone-branded RSS reader service perfectly formatted for the iPhone. (Note: link to my own post)
- Martin Bryant
from Bookmarklet
Heard about this a few months ago on twitter, but cursively.
- Richard A.
Cursively? It was handwritten on Twitter? :-) Sorry, I don't quite understand...
- Martin Bryant
I mean I saw someone mention they were working on it.
- Richard A.
if they are just doing it to get publicity it appears to be working
- Jamie Vidamour
Everyone does everything for the iphone. They forget about the billion Nokia handsets out there.
- Richard A.
Richard: true. It'll be interesting to see if the N97 reignites interest in Nokia. Their smartphones tend to be a lot more powerful than the iPhone and S60 is a lot more flexible OS than the iPhone's.
- Martin Bryant
Re-ignites. I never lost interest in Nokia, (or at least not for more than a few months). I love the n95 :-)
- Richard A.
I'm a big nokia fan too. I have an N82 as well as an iPhone 3G. There's no denying the general public sees them as a bit 'unsexy' compared to Apple.
- Martin Bryant
They're too afraid of the unknown.
- Richard A.
I've updated this post with new information direct from Vodafone.
- Martin Bryant
Back at work after a long weekend. I have real-time FriendFeed Beta in a browser tab.... and I expect to get work done?!
Tom Beardshaw liked this
Mike Arrington and I disagree on the future - http://scobleizer.com/2009...
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MediaFuturist: 8 key trends and some foresights for the next 5 years - http://ow.ly/2hRD
Tom Beardshaw liked this
Gerd Leonhard comes up with some great predictions of the trends of the next five years...?
- Hannah Rudman
Dads are good parents too: What Jade Goody teaches us about the UK government’s new ‘Think Father’ campaign - http://www.thecommentfactory.com/dads-ar...
Tom Beardshaw liked this
Shocking News: Scientists Say Workplace Social Networking Increases Productivity! - ReadWriteWeb - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Tom Beardshaw, MicahBear78, Kelly and 5 other people liked this
"Can you believe that using social networking sites at work can increase your workplace productivity? A new study just published by Australian scientists found that taking time to visit websites of personal interest, including news sites and YouTube, provided workers a mental break that ultimately increased their ability to concentrate and was correlated with a 9% increase in total productivity."
- Kol Tregaskes
from Bookmarklet
That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it!
- Martin Bryant
STOP THE PRESSES!!!!!
- Roberto Bonini
To all employees, from the General Manager: View LOLcats. Now.
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
I am in love with this photo.
- Captain Bubbles
"Short and unobtrusive breaks, such as a quick surf of the Internet, enables the mind to rest itself, leading to a higher total net concentration for a days' work, and as a result, increased productivity," he said. - short and unobtrusive breaks -- tell me now in all honesty -- does that apply to anyone here?
- Brian Sullivan
I would definitely agree, as long as you qualify it by saying "can increase". Happy workers are always more productive than unhappy ones and, while there's clearly scope for abuse, stopping people from using social networking sites makes them unhappier.
- James Myatt
Leica D-LUX 3 10MP Digital Camera with 4x Wide Angle Optical Image Stabilized Zoom (Black) - http://www.amazon.com/dp...
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Larry Hudson, Lindsay, Tom Beardshaw and Johnny Worthington liked this
What? No D-LUX 4? =)
- ronin
I haz. Little beauty.
- Tom Beardshaw
I looked at that one before I picked the Canon G10. Lots of interesting things out there to choose from now... nice from the drought of the year or two before.
- Lindsay
Help me choose my leadership research topic - http://steflewandowski.com/2009...
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New Twitter movement: unfollow everyone. Discuss why or why not this is a good thing:
Lisa, David, carl morris and 141 other people liked this
@loic started this with a script he had built. He unfollowed everyone yesterday and now only is following 22 people.
- Robert Scoble
@loic told me it feels like he took a bath.
- Robert Scoble
@loic says that having a small number of people he intimately follows lets him build real relationships online again.
- Robert Scoble
i just think people shouldnt take all of this so seriously.
- Terry O'Fee
Is there a way to do this (as in mass deletion option?) Thanks.
- hawk12online
@loic says that if you try to follow thousands of people there's no way to see all the tweets. That is true. If I refresh Twitter.com as fast as I can I can't see all the Tweets coming into my account.
- Robert Scoble
I have been actively unfollowing--not everyone--but anyone that seems not directly relevant or familiar to me on some level. Twitter has become a far richer experience since employing this technique
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Well how will you will you filter than or get to the things you like? A group of people you follow is in my experience one of the best information filters you can have.
- rick
I'm now following just over 100 people anyway
- VIVANO
there is more than one way to do twitter. both the @loic and @scobleizer way are right.
- Peggy Dolane
Oh, I'm sure it's an annoying mess with about 400 items per minute that mean absolutely nothing to you
- Dorian Muthig
Are you gonna unfollow everyone too, Robert?
- Reuben Thum
i have some really good friends i talk to on a regular basis. some i have conversations with. some proper celebrities because i cant help myself. the rest i suss out. if all they can talk about is ff and twitter, i may unfollow myself.
- Terry O'Fee
@loic and I see that there's something new happening. First, search like http://search.twitter.com is totally changing our inbound. Second, using services like friendfeed lets you group and manage large numbers of followers, so you'll still have the inbound, especially as more and more people join both friendfeed and Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
instead of unfollowing, I use FriendFeed to filter/group the tweeters according to their priority for me
- Alexander Benker
I agree Robert- following folks sometimes can be a total waste of time and waste of twitter. Quality over quantity seems to be the new movement of late and I have to agree fro the most part-I am tired of getting spammed and DMed by spam which we all have to delete. But I have always followed quality- and that is why I am responding to your tweet dude.
- DougFirebaugh
Sure when you have the amount of followers that you do and they will just listen it makes sense. But not for the average user of twitter. It's not about just being followed. I think you may have lost touch with the whole thing. You two are in the top 2%. Twitter is a completely different user experience than the other 98%.
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
So are we calling this Follower Bankruptcy?
- Mike Doeff
This one of the reasons to have track, so you can follow your real friends and still discover new people
- Christian Burns
Robert, Twitter is a river of 140 char messages. Dive in when you feel like taking a bath. Get out when you had enough. Loic and you should stop whining about the drawbacks after you start following thousands of people ;-)
- Alexander van Elsas
let's see robert unfollow everyone in friendfeed too. hah, that'll be the day.
- Terry O'Fee
Reuben: I haven't decided to yet, but @loic sure makes a good case for it.
- Robert Scoble
IMO, it's not a great idea. People will see this as a negative action toward them and unfollow you. If everybody were to unfollow everybody they know, twitter would become a meaningless array of nothingness. "If it ain't broke, don't unfollow it."
- Zerhynn
I have never bought into the mass followers approach and find that I have to find at least 2 or 3 tweets interesting within a page or two, in anybody I would choose to follow. I am interested in connection with people with similar interests and I don't think it makes sense to just build up volume.
- Kirti Vashee
There's certainly a buzz around this, we just talked about it on our podcast tonight. What sucks about unfollowing is losing the news-stream of information you're trying to capture--stuff you may not have notice/found. Maybe Twitter should implement groups, a'la tweetdeck?
- Paul Salzman
Although I do agree that you do not need to follow thousands of people.
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
interesting concept - guess that is what I use tweetdeck, friendfeed and socialmedian for to allow me to focus on issues because I carefully selected the people I follow after reviewing their sites I see merit in unfollowing everyone just as I see in using third party apps - it depends on the individuals preferences
- Lionel Spearman
It's both good and bad. For one if your reduce the number of people you follow to a minimalistic amount you can build richer and more vibrant relationships with the select few. The bad however is that your world view is now much smaller than what it would have been. I'm actually thinking about unfollowing a mass of people to get back into a manageable range where I can read all of there tweets and then search for anything else.
- Jimminy
Why is it a new movement when SM gurus start doing it? I follow those that have similar interest or to learn different point of views. I have no goal to have the most followers or the best twitter grade. Twitter is about the relationships you build. Friends are relationships that I have built over years of trust and loyalty.
- Kyle
I would consider it, but I would have trouble shutting out that many. I am following 1000 and being followed by 1500
- Christian Burns
Having just decided to join the follow you movement I think unfollowing everyone is an unfriendly move, why not make a group for the 22 friends you really want to follow:)
- Suzie Cheel
Then there are some who follow then unfollow and follow again. lol.
- Carolyn Chan
One problem with not following everyone: only people you are following can send you direct messages on Twitter. That's one thing that's keeping me from running @loic's script. @loic points out, though, that most of my DM's are now spam. He's right.
- Robert Scoble
I've been speaking about that for a weeks, and applying it, glad it's finally trickling to the a-listers.
- Richard A.
So the question is, when will FF get DMs?
- Christian Burns
you still have email, robert :P
- Terry O'Fee
Not sure I agree. Even with a small "following" I get real nuggets via DMs. Besides - it is rude to mass unfollow :)
- Rob La Gesse
I kind of wish I could limit my follows to 150
- Christian Burns
I have been thinking about this a lot. Recently I blogged about how opening up my Facebook to everyone who wanted to connect was not really resulting in meaningful relationships. We don't have the time to be engaged with that many people. We can put content out and discuss when they respond, but to actually use the medium in the way I used to when I had just a couple friends on there is no longer possible with so many people. Likewise, with Twitter.
- AV Flox
I won't be sad or hurt if @Scobleizer unfollows me. Frankly, not all my tweets are that relevant to the guy. Just so long as he checks his @replies and answers me every blue moon, that still falls in the category of a good relationship on Twitter. @shelisrael has an unfollow/follow as you go motto described on his blog, it makes sense to me.
- Phillip
It was my script. I'm the new guy at seesmic. I wrote it for loic today. if anyone wants it, I've got it. kick this movement into high stream. If you look at the first person in loic's follow list, its me now :-)
- Zac Bowling
But Robert, I thought you couldn't check your DM's? I remember seeing quite a few tweets from you saying "DON'T DM ME - EMAIL ME INSTEAD" etc.
- Brandon LeBlanc
from twhirl
What a load of BS. Do the math.
- Stephen Grant-Jones
Since I run much smaller number that Loic & Robert, my systematic subtractive technique works--if I had thousands of spamming DM--I would run Loic's script.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Brandon: I tried getting people to not send me DMs. Doesn't work. People were trying to do business with them (and still are). It's probably the single reason why I won't run the script.
- Robert Scoble
I love the spontaneity and surprise of many friends. I would never give it up. I discover things every day that delight me.
- John Kremer
Besides, if I really need to send Scoble a DM I can just call his Cell phone
- Christian Burns
A lot of the conversations that are still happening are interesting but the relationships built are no longer as close as they were when I had only a couple of followers. It's funny that you tweeted about only having 150 followers on Friendfeed and that's more conducive to quality relationships. Isn't 150 the Dunbar number? Loic's movement is worth reflecting on. I've been making use of Tweetdeck again to scale down the groups. It's helped but Loic's solution is seductive.
- AV Flox
This can be very short sighted. A great way to send the message, I don't want your business or money.
- Sylvia Webb
it would almost be a good idea except for one thing - @reply can only be seen by followers. It would be great if this were not the case, and I can see the spam potential if it were, but limiting @reply to followers, if you;re not following anyone, means everyone is in a big room shouting over each other instead of conversing.
- Brian Benz
New craze for newbies to twitter, following a small number of people and filter the rest for useful conversations. Quantity is not quality!
- Carl Plant
People that I follow on Twitter, for the most part, aren't "friends" in any normal sense of the word. Most of them are unaware of my existence. I tend to selectively follow (previewing someone's stream before following) and actively unfollow (usually when I see a page full of "Welcome, @one" and "Welcome, @two" messages).
- Glen Mistletoe
i'm far more suspicious of those following me than i'm concerned about who I follow. I'm always looking to prune my Twitter follows and -- what can I say -- it's hard... lots of people in my twitterfeed tend to add value more often than not!
- Andy Sternberg
Also, does this approach not create a new A-list in a different place?
- Brian Benz
Just goes to prove that Steve Gillmor is always right, eventually you will see it his way :)
- Christian Burns
Do what works for you. If it stops working for you then make a change. I don't think there is any reason for debate here. To each his/her own.
- Katherine Druckman
@Robert it isn't possbile to say to people not to use DM. And if you feel like you should build up such a large crowd you follow or that follow you then accept the consequences. You get value because it lets you be an information hub and provides you overall sex appeal in the tech community. In return you will have to accept that people try to get access to you to get back some of that value for themselves or their products.
- Alexander van Elsas
if it ain't broke. don't fix it. i wouldn't unfollow everyone but i do find myself filtering more. being open and keeping channels 2 way has allowed me to meet some amazing contacts interested in doing business in China. to unfollow people would be to cut off these channels for me. a lot of these contacts are via DM. everyone's got a different way of using twitter.
- Christine Lu
Brian: why? Not sure what you're getting at there.
- Robert Scoble
It's not necessary to see all the tweets. You can use Tweetdeck and other services to make sure you don't miss your favorites. I still love the nuggets I discover -- like this post -- that I would not discover if I stopped following so many people.
- John Kremer
I can make it easy for @loic. Nuke the account and start over following the 22 people.
- Christian Anderson
Am I wrong to say that if you use Twitter search @yourusername you can't see @replies from people NOT following you? I tried it and it seems to work for me.
- Phillip
Christine: it's all broken, it's just that I have gotten used to routing around the fail whales and the stream flowing through Tweetdeck. I "media snack" and just sample from the stream flowing by. It doesn't bother me too much either way. I do find that friendfeed is a far better place and it's great to see more and more people discovering that.
- Robert Scoble
Phillip: bing! Oh, by the way, I'm following everyone on this thread. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Geez, Loic is like the drama queen of the web.
- Orli Yakuel
Christian: actually that's probably what I would do if I was tired of a high-flow account: just start a new account with only a few friends and lock down the followers. Maybe that's the solution for true addicts like me. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I'm unfollowing everyone on twitter and friendfeed who I don't know personally or isn't local. Sorry peeps, Twitter and friendfeed works best like that. Once I get everything clean, feel free to let me know you're still following me and I'll follow back.
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Orli: oh, if you can't have some drama what fun is social media? ;-)
- Robert Scoble
I have a simple, less radical set of rules: 1) use groups, 2) un-follow anyone who spams you with direct messages and 3) move questions/conversations to friendfeed.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Robert, stay as you are, please.
- Orli Yakuel
Orli: don't worry, I'll always follow you. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I too use FriendFeed's and TweetDeck's group functions to prioritize the tweets that comes in from my followees.
- Vinko
52 pages, 1025 people I follow on twitter. Each one was added by me for a reason. No auto-follow. First person ever followed was Jason Calacanis over two years agao.
- Christian Burns
My twitter name is @infoliberation. I find that Twitter is short and sweet and Friendfeed is for a much more robust conversation. I love the marriage of the two. I think Friendfeed is helped greatly by Twitter's jumping off point. What else can you say to that?
- Phillip
damn...right when my followership just started taking off. :-(
- Jason Salas
from IM
I agree with Katherine, to each his own. I've got just a wee 2000 followers, but enjoy popping in to respond to whatever random tweet catches my eye or relevant tweets I've found through saved topic searches. Hey, I even got a new client today - so I'm doing just fine with how things are now.
- Cheryl Allin
please people, let's try for tomorrow for a day on this where we dont talk about twitter or friendfeed. there's other stuff to talk about...
- Terry O'Fee
Robert, come on... this is not what I'm worried about. I think that you really know most of your friends, or for at least trying to communicate with people you don't know. With Twitter you get to know new friends & content based on the same taste/interests - to follow only people you know, is like taking two steps back. (and thanks for following me!)
- Orli Yakuel
Not sure why you would need to unfollow everyone to keep track of what your important people tweet. Just form a group of high-profile folks in TweetDeck and it'll do the same thing, plus you can still follow everyone else for when you want to jump in the stream.
- Cory OBrien
i just unfollowed a couple of folks, it's true, we can live without twitter,facebook and friendfeed. How about for lent we give up facebook, twitter and friendfeed?
- Dh'ennis Dömingö
Robert - Limiting followers = limiting DMs and replies and tweets you can see from others - In Loic's example 22 invitees (followers) that get to have a seat at the table while the rest of us can watch the action passively. TO me this would be as exciting as C-Span. :)
- Brian Benz
I cannot fathom following hundreds of people. I was in the 90s a couple of weeks ago so I pruned my list down to 78. Even that seems high but I couldn't go lower. I'm slow to follow folks, on Twitter & FF, because I'd rather follow a small group of folks I've a genuine connection with than a ton of folks I only have a vague sense about. Some folks tell me I'm doing social media wrong but I think that's silly. For me, social media is all about fun so what need have I of 1000s of followers?
- ♥patricia♥
I think everyone will find their own Twitter preferences. I'm following 606 right now. In a week or two I may clean out some of the driftwood - people who've gone silent or have switched to topics that aren't interesting, but then I'll add some new folks to make up for it. I don't catch every Tweet, but the stream keeps running. So long as it's populated with interesting folk, the Tweets that I do catch are more likely to be interesting as well.
- Heidi Cool
Orli: I've decided that @loic is wrong. But he's also right. Twitter, you see, is really broken for interacting with large numbers of people. Friendfeed is much better.
- Robert Scoble
I think Loic let things get out of control. Robert, considering how many followers you have, you seem to be able to manage your account better than anybody. If your truly are looking for a quality experience, you have to decide what works for you. I always thought it was about quality not quantity:-)
- Michael Fidler
@loic I think its cool that you rebooted who you follow
- Christian Burns
On Pownce I used to try to keep track of all posts (and followed fewer people) but Pownce was more indepth. On Twitter one can glean a lot from just a small percentage of what's there.
- Heidi Cool
Robert, with that I agree: FriendFeed is better for long and real conversations.
- Orli Yakuel
I agree groups in tweetdeck help you filter very well without missing some occasional random tweets. keeping up with your @replies is more critical than every single tweet.
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
Robert - you should unfollow everyone and see what happens. make sure that script stores everyone you are following in a db in case you want to re-follow after the test.
- Gerard
While I didn't unfollow everyone, I cut out a lot of who I was following. Might be rude, but it's not meant to be that way. i no longer have the time to follow so many people.
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Gerard: it would cause too many messages to fly around. People get their feelings hurt if someone unfollows them.
- Robert Scoble
If I unfollow people, then I'd be digitally talking to myself. I can do that IRL
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My feelings wouldn't be hurt - I'd doubt if I'd even realize it - that's not what I'm using Twitter for - just silly to me.
- Cheryl Allin
Outsanity: that's not true. Who you are following is your inbound. You can get inbound other places, like http://search.twitter.com or http://www.twittervision.com
- Robert Scoble
Twitter is what you want it to be. That's one of the fascinating things. My own view of it has changed a dozen times since I started. Everyone has their own philosophy about how to use it, and they are all valid. As for me, I'm simply not going to follow anybody who doesn't follow me, and I will follow anybody (as long as they are real) I just unfollowed loic. The World is flat. Will I miss out? Perhaps, but if I want to know what the 'important' people are thinking I can just go to their sites.
- Stephen Pickering
Robert: You're currently "following" 69,188 people on Twitter. If one of those people has their feelings hurt because you unfollow them and they no longer have 1/70,000th of your attention, they have a screw loose.
- Ken Sheppardson
Twhirl gives you inbound with saved searches, each search a tab stream. I love it. Create a saved search for keyword 'RT' and see what's hot or a saved search like 'chrisbrogan' and follow him and all who @ him.
- Cheryl Allin
I say bite the bullet, clear things out, add some searches in Tweetdeck or one of the "track" services, and follow people manually as your real relationships warrant. You can alway run a script to just follow everybody later if you miss the noise.
- Ken Sheppardson
Robert: I unfollowed according to three criteria 1. Does the person follow more than a thousand 2. Does the person respond 3. does the person tweet links and RT rather than content, the fourth is whether you're unlucky enough to tweet when I'm in unfollow mode. Result: A more social timeline.
- Richard A.
Sounds like Loic needs to fix Twhirl to manage his followers better. He doesn't have to pay attention to every single one, but he does need a way to build relationships with those he wants to. Twhirl is horrible at this.
- Jesse Stay
@Richard Azia: I couldn't have agreed with you more on your criteria.
- Reuben Thum
@Jesse Stay, I use twhirl and it's fine for what I do, but that's because I culled my follow list removing all those that aren't active conversationalists.
- Richard A.
Reuben, My timeline is far more fun now as a result :-). Took a few experiments to find the right method though.
- Richard A.
@Richard Azia: I did the same thing like you did, too. Instead of auto following people blindly, I use an auto follow app, but manually unfollow spammers and users based on similar criteria you've mentioned.
- Reuben Thum
At a certain point if you had autofollow on you have no choice but to start over because a) you can follow the number of tweets and b) you will stress the Twitter servers out.
- Jason Calacanis
Reuben. I don't use auto follow, For me to follow someone new I want to see how converstional they are first. That's when I might consider them on twitter.
- Richard A.
Robert: Is this the flip side of what Jason and Michael were taking you to task on a few weeks back on GG? Is it time to do more meaningful *listening*?
- Ken Sheppardson
Robert: I 'think' I was the first person with over 20k followers to do this. Though in my case, I totally reset my account - zero following / zero followers. http://jimsmarketingblog.com/2009... it has been a universally great experience to me and massively increased the value of Twitter to me.
- Jim Connolly
Ken: yes, I think this has a big part to do with addiction too. You keep trying to follow more and more until you snap.
- Robert Scoble
An interesting idea, as I have found I have followers but a very select few who actually respond regularly, I wonder if it is matter of depersonalization, losing what it once represented as a means to an end. Certainly it could be a good idea, but many of those who I have found were those who had spoke on something of interest in the wide swath of sea that is twitter. So I will consider it, but am not sure if there will be follow through anytime soon. Though I guess it would depend also on how effective.
- Raymond Marr aka Knatchwa
As someone has probably already pointed out in a more eloquent fashion, Loic's company makes a Twitter client. Surely he should build tools into that client to make the overload problem more manageable and certainly not try to set a trend of "hey it's cool to unfollow lots of people now". That sort of sends the wrong message to people about your company and it's thinking.
- Pete Gilbert
I don’t see how this is even an idea to be considered. If we unfollow everybody and everybody else unfollows the rest, then Twitter will become a very lonely place. Boring place with no use what so ever… I strongly disagree with this.
- Spyros Papaspyropoulos
agreed @peter, it's nonsense, companywise, to promote that kind of message when you try to spread your twitter tool.Anyway, I think it's more a trend problem, the 2009 fashion is to unfollow everyone and @loic cannot do unfashioned thing because this is how he builds his reputation and his company notoriety.Dommage...
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
from twhirl
There is no point being on twitter if your purpose is to broadcast. For broadcasting blogs and other platforms are more interesting. If you take dialogue away from twitter you undermine the most active members of the community because they will feel people are using the site too passively. Why do you think social networks fail, lack of involvment. At least by reducing the number of people you follow you increase engagement on a per person basis. It becomes personal once more.
- Richard A.
It's beginning to feel like the @1938media technique--in reverse--sans personality shift. Loic will now certainly be the topic of many blog posts in the next day or two.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Spyros: totally wrong. We'd still be here at friendfeed and http://search.twitter.com would still show us other people.
- Robert Scoble
@Robert and what is the criteria to detect people in such a huge stream? Come on, this is a network thing: you follow someone because someone else you share interest with has followed him, much more than picking up in twitter "all" stream...
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
from twhirl
Jean: I am very adept at scrolling through a huge list of names and telling you something about most of them. Friendfeed is where I spend most of my time, though.
- Robert Scoble
GREAT idea Loic, way to prove your software really can't handle the numbers. This is a weird move from a very smart man.
- Jim Connolly
Understand, Robert, but I think that setting up filters (like you did) is a better way than unfollowing people, which seems to be a "2009 trend" with no real reason, even more when you promote a twitter tool.You barely say "my tool suck, so I can't do anything but unfollow you'.Bad move, IMO.
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
from twhirl
I think Loic displayed a certain degree of immaturity in handling twitter as a tool. It is as overdone to follow everyone as it is to unfollow radically. Inspired by the debate, I felt a bit like Moses today ( ;-) ), and subsequently assembled bloggi's Ten Commandments of Twitter: http://bit.ly/ten-commandments
- Mark Jacobs
Jean: agreed. I like friendfeed as an answer a lot more. Just open up a list and put the people you want to really follow in there and keep everyone else out.
- Robert Scoble
If everybody unfollows everybody else then there is no twitter
- Mark Fletcher
@yann I'm also french and I don't understand too.
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
from twhirl
As Twitter's user numbers have INCREASED it's usability (to me) has DECREASED. Is it just me?
- Jim Connolly
I can understand Loic's reasons, but I don't agree with it. I don't personally know 95% of the people I follow on twitter. It is however neither relevant nor important for that to be a pre-requisite to starting an interesting conversation. I don't auto follow people and i only pay attention to whoever I want to irrespective of the number of people i am subscribed to. Moreover, a large number of people have occasional sparks of interestingness. So if one can learn to ignore; the more the better.
- Parth Awasthi
@Jim_Connolly It is the old law of decreasing returns when new media trivialize. But usually, I am pretty untouched by it since (having been around since February 2007 in twitter) I only follow some 350 people to this day. So I get a good result from my circle of followees. Also, I try to give by helping out new twitter users who have questions.
- Mark Jacobs
@Scoble have you unfollowed everyone?
- Waldemar Schott
@Parth_Awasthi I think, lioc created a big mess by first auto following, and now seeing no other way out than to unfollow. Somehow, it makes me giggle a bit :-)
- Mark Jacobs
You guys have way too much free time on your hands with this nonsense.
- Wayne Schulz
Too much drama. It's funny how many social networks bemoan lack of users and with Twitter, the opposite problem is the subject of complaints - "there's too many bots and DMs! oh my!" Bleh.
- Eric Gonzalez
I really don't share opinion about Loic putting this on a personal way. This is a strategy mistake (company-wise), a trend mistake (2009-ish fashion)...But not a big head problem. Loic had thousands reasons to have a huge head issue before and did not, so I don't see why it would be the case now
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
from twhirl
Robert Scoble: What about the people that are using only Twitter? What about the ones that don't use FriendFeed? Ok, we might be crazy having many many accounts on most of all social platforms, but other only use one or two. By unfollowing everyone, there is no Twitter as Mark Fletcher said.
- Spyros Papaspyropoulos
I'd agree with someone earlier Loic wants to keep his followers but follow less bet he wouldn't have started that policy at the beginning otherwise he would have a few k followers at most! If he had real balls then he would delete his account like @jimconnolly did and start fresh but he wont as he still wants to 'use' the big following he has, talk about one way!
- roger byrne
don't have to start unfollowing anyone as i didn't start following everyone in the first place.. never really understood the auto-following of twitterers i started following.. you've got twittersearch to find people with common interests..
- Johannan Edelman
@scobleizer @loic So much as issues matter, people also matter. Unfollowing people because there is an alternative way to search for issues or interests is limiting the scope to generate them in the first place. Following more people signals belongingness and interests or issues heard. On the other hand, small followings signals selfishness and is the same as 'greed is good'.
- Moses Kpetigo
Interesting: so would @loic also encourage all his followers to stop following him? so he could stick with his few twitter fellows? If I remember, he was the one all about numbers and authority. It seems like, once you've reached enough, you're safe ppl will follow you no matter what, you have good "authority" and then you can unfollow all the mass and become a Twitter snob? It sounds too much like a strategy to me. In which he succeed, no doubt. Will he lose credibility? I wonder.
- May
I like Robert's snack analogy: I consider Twitter as a news source roughly tuned to my general interests via who I decided to follow. In this respect I could follow lots of people, since it makes sure that each time I go to Twitter, I will find something interesting to me. I know I won't be able to read everything, but I don't care, it's just like in a book store I know I can't read all the books, but I like to sample in the sci-fi shelves
- Antoine Bertier
@loic is becoming way too elitist lately. i didn't hear him complaining when he was following thousands of people to promote seesmic!
- Alensa
@antoine Exactly right imho most have never claimed and quite the opposite actually specified they don't/can't read every tweet but when they are on they are on and dip into the party! Loics party just got real small! ;)
- roger byrne
while search.twitter.com is useful, twitter puts you on the front of the wave not searching to catch up afterwards
- Mark Parssey
There are Wars currently on this planet, half of people dont have anything to eat, drink, there is a global economic crisis, but all that is bullshit compare to Twitter... Right? GrRRRrRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Didier Lahely
All in all, Twitter and FriendFeed are really nothing more than a Yahoo chatroom. Way too much noise and too many people that need to get over themselves.
- Charles Baldwin
i constantly wonder how you keep up with sooooo many followers. doesn't it drive you nuts????
- Francisco Kemeny
My twitterverse contains people I pay attention to, people that I have so I can search and some that I just follow for a moment and then remove.
- Josef Finsel
from twhirl
Human attention spans (and time) are limited. Twitter and IMing are a large 'experiment' , still a work in progress--the jury is out!
- JimmyJet
If you have so many followers that you have to unfollow because you didn't follow based on what the people were saying, but instead followed to up your "network", then Twitter probably isn't the venue for you. Check out MySpace and do that...
- Nicki Laycoax
*yawn* what's new here? nothing. @fidlr and others started the twexpire type experiments (look up the script if you care) long ago; not loic or scoble. i specified the #egosphere vs. #cognosphere usage scenarios long ago. @JimmyJet and @DidierLahely sum it up well. In another sense, all of this is IRC and Usenet for dummies.
- michael silverton
it's a good exercise to see how much you really miss the tweets of those you unfollow. And also see how many of them will remain followers after you unfollow.
- Mihai Secasiu
I'd argue that having 23k followers is 'doing it wrong' & you should unfollow and start over. I follow 329 right now and the signal-to-noise ratio is manageable. It's a mix of people I know intimately, casually and professionally, and that's where I have the conversations and relationship-building. Next is a handful of news and interesting/high # of followers people. Then, a few individuals with similar numbers as me I found interesting, which has allowed for Twitter-specific relationship-building.
- Laura Hall
I agree with @Johannan Edelman I have never used the autofollow function and have felt those I do follow provide value to me.
- Jill Howard Allen
As an additional note, if I were to increase my activity and wanted to manage those relationships, I'd start doing filtered lists.
- Laura Hall
Groups/filteting seems to be a more sensible and positive sltuion to the "too many followers" problem. eh.
- Doug Haslam
from twhirl
It's nice that people find what works for them, but there is no "doin' it wrong" There is only "doin it with clue" or "doin it clueless" ... if one doesn't know WHY one is doin' it, no life coach, guru, or A-lister can help. Form your own experiments and execute them. You need no approval or permission from any seeming authority figure. Look up #cognosophere and #egosophere if you care. P.S. PeopleBrowsr breaks ALL these assumptions; it's a completely new kind of literacy beyond Twitter and Friendfeed.
- michael silverton
I guess I just like to see what people are up to. Isn't that what it was all about before the marketing types took over? Now it's about "getting value" and "managing relationships". I joined so I could tell people what I was having for lunch.
- Shawn Farner
I like being in your Twitter stream, I like the idea that thought leaders and influential people like yourself occasionally get to read my updates. You know, once in a blue moon I come up with a great idea, and it's cool to know that in turn this might just inspire Scoble, or Fry for that matter, too.
- Terje Fjelde
On the other hand I hate reading about strangers "spending the entire day in bed" or "being bored," so I only follow people who add quality updates on my own account
- Terje Fjelde
the main issue comes from the fact Twitter does not help users follow and decide efficiently on new followers. Robert if you are interested we have created a new service called Topify.com. if you are interested i ll drop you an invite
- Ouriel Ohayon
Twitter has provide me a way to build a network of people and experts very quickly in fields where I previously did not have contacts or experience. To blanket unfollow would be like cutting my nose off in spite of my face.
- Stephen Terlizzi
How will this help...what will it do?
- John Flynn
ouriel: sure, send it to scobleizer@gmail.com
- Robert Scoble
robert: you ll get it in a few days, just after we migrated servers. i am sure you ll love it :)
- Ouriel Ohayon
That's not new. Loic didn't start a trend. I've only bee using these services since May and I've done it on several occasions and not just on Twitter. Several people have.
- Captain Bubbles
I did that for a while on my first (now private/personal) account, and found myself going to 5-6 follower's Twitter pages to read the news (ala RSS reader days) a couple of times a day. Now that I have a public account, I creeped up to 75-100 again but am consciously rotating folks in and out of my "Top 50." My Twitterstream is like a living, breathing being, I guess! But by intensely following different people at different times, I learn something new and can move on. It's quality, not quantity.
- Carolyn
Robert - the idea of reducing who you actively follow and relying more on search notifications is the premise of this post: "2009 Prediction: As Social Connections Reduce, Keyword Tracking Increases" http://bit.ly/hfQq
- Hutch Carpenter
My .02 I do wish twitter had an "inbox" feature so I could divide up those I follow into categories and then read tweets as I like. I know tweetdeck does this but I don't like having to rely on two pieces of software to make it work. Feeding people into my rss reader would take forever. The FriendFeed model of being able to categorize people as you friend them is perfect. Then you can check up on a particular category of people anytime you like. (i.e. politicians, Social Media nuts, writers, etc)
- Sid Burgess
I think a lot of the "unfollowing" noise is reaction to those who are gaming their follower counts on Twitter. It's upset the numerical dominance of the traditional A-listers, who were already stinging from the arrival of *real* celebrities to the service. So now there's a swing back to exclusivity. I'm not sure Loic is wrong, though: I'm planning on significantly downsizing who I follow on FriendFeed. This format seems more suitable for conversation. Twitter is fine for a big, noisy stream.
- Chris Baskind
Chris: on friendfeed just stick the people you want to rarely follow into a list, or do what I did: put the people you REALLY want to follow into a list and read that everyday. That way you'll still have the massive inflows somewhere else when you want those too.
- Robert Scoble
Chris: there is something to that, by the way. But you've only touched the surface of the breakage that happened the past month. Go deeper there and you will find the truth.
- Robert Scoble
Chris - Lists have answered this quandary for me. The bacon memes are fun, but I didn't want them filling up my main feed. And during the day, I have a professional need to focus on the world of e2.0. Lists really do serve the purpose Loic set out to accomplish.
- Hutch Carpenter
unfollow everyone on twitter, FB and every other social network. UK scientists sez that these SN sites actually rewires the nueural network within the brain and thereby making an individual more selfish and self centered. Thus cause pyschological damage to themselves.. :(- (p.s Link will follow- I just heard it this AM on FM while communting to work !!)
- Peter Dawson
You have to be damn special for me to follow you, without you following me, and I try to only follow people with a near 1:1 ratio. There are of course, exception. Sarah Crisman unfollowed me one day, I never found out why, but I didn't drop her cause I like her content.
- Matthew DeVries
Robert: I know that's an oversimplification. There are a number of factors upsetting the apple cart on Twitter, and not all of them are petty or nefarious.
- Chris Baskind
Chris: even the petty ones are deeper if you dig beyond the ego damage.
- Robert Scoble
Bad thing, and if you do it, you will confirm that you A-listers only exploited social media as your broadcasting tool for your own political agenda and not as a true conversation.
- Prokofy Neva
I got over the ego damage quickly cause # of followers never did matter. But what remains? Twitter has harmed its community. This is an easy mistake to make and it's one that comes out of @ev and @biz's arrogance. They rarely use their own tools, by the way. Look at @ev's account and tell me he's really a great Twitterer that talks with tons of people. He does not.
- Robert Scoble
Not a good thing...ummm. Wait... Are the major Twitter-User fear of their status, when too many other users get a lot of followers, too? What is the purpose of this discussion?
- Ryo / Fuck Facebook
What's even funnier is that the guy who actually came up with the idea for Twitter, @noah, is not one of the suggested followers while other people on the team are. I should write a book about how funny this all is.
- Robert Scoble
@loic seems to have quit over inane DM spam thanking for following, etc. Is there no way to stop automated use of the tools?
- Prokofy Neva
Prokofy: that's not really a good reason to follow everyone. But there are plenty of other good reasons, so I keep doing it. @Ryo you're off the rails. Get back on track. You're close to the track, but not on it.
- Robert Scoble
BS meme! the unfollowers just want to blast their mouths off and not listen to what others have to say
- DC Crowley
Prokofy: no. Twitter's DM feature really sucks. It always has. I just use it because everyone else wants to.
- Robert Scoble
Twitter's DM is a reinvention of a wheel named EMAILS.
- directeur
directeur: only done in the most lame way possible.
- Robert Scoble
Much like the FF comment system is a reinvention of vBulletin/phpBB, done in the most lame way possible.
- Ken Sheppardson
Lame? I like it.
- coldbrew
Prokofy: That is the same argument that went on for a few weeks back in November here on FF. @loic decided that unfollowing everyone was a better solution that to simply utilize the tools at hand to filter and refine his firehose. Instead of unfollowing everyone @loic could have taken these treasured 25 or whatever and put them in a tweatdeck group that brings only their DM's to him, with all the other DM's going ignored. DM's are NOT like email, there isn't an expectation of reply when you send a DM
- Matthew DeVries
Everything is a reinvention of Usenet or E-mail, or N. Just like everything on the Internet is a repost of a repost.
- Sam Levine
Let's play this out...if everyone unfollowed a significant % of those whom they don't care about...then it would INCREASE the ability to communicate with those they do care about without all the noise. I'm sure we would all agree this is a good thing. However, if we were to unfollow EVERYONE...are we little more than individual broadcasters that never allow for a two way dialogue? This would dramatically change the landscape of Twitter because a profound hierarchy would emerge: "follows" and "follow-nots"
- Drew Sams
Drew, I've been writing about that topic for a while now, but especially in recent weeks with the influx of new twitter users who don't attempt to converse yet.
- Richard A.
Don't you think it has incremental feature improvements each time though, Levine?
- coldbrew
Depending on how you use FF, it is much like IRC combined w/ Usenet
- coldbrew
Richard: most new twitter accounts I'm seeing lately are bots. Not real users and provably so. Real users display random behavior. The new accounts do not. Humans are never consistent.
- Robert Scoble
Maybe they had a falling out and Noah is no longer welcome?
- Tony C
Well, I feel kind of helpless about Loic's action. How should I react? I thought about unfollowing him, too. But I don't think that he or anyone else cares about. So well... Maybe that's the way things are going. The community makes you big, because they think, they can get use out of it being followed back, and then if you are known well enough, throw the cattle all out. Moooh!
- Ryo / Fuck Facebook
Richard, thanks for sharing...this has been a topic I'm really interested in. I'll head over to your blog and check out what you've written. Cheers!
- Drew Sams
One way in which the FF comment system is lame: comments on Scoble threads move so fast that in the time I've typed this, there will probably be five other new comments. Yet FF will chose to hide some of them and instead say "20x more comments". When I click on that, the thread expands into 5+ pages of comments, and I have to scroll down and try to remember what I saw last. Lack of read/unread status and/or visible (non-mouseover) timestamps are pretty significant time sinks/inefficiencies.
- Ken Sheppardson
Enough off-topic. I think this is ironic on a number of levels:
- coldbrew
A way to think about Loic. There are a lot of gamers who follow huge numbers, then unfollow massively to look A-List. Loic is A-List. But even so, ask yourself what *you've* gotten from Loic. If you can't answer that question, your unfollow decision should be clear.
- Hutch Carpenter
Drew: That's like saying in 1890 to communicate better with your friends/family, you need to erase the rest of the country so the mail man can find your people easier/faster. There are tools to filter and refine your communication with Twitter and Friendfeed. It is wrong to choose the nuclear option instead of just using the tools to organize their communication streams, as these platforms evolve they're going to regret casting people out and then have to be in a position to regather them again.
- Matthew DeVries
Ken: The datastream is there, write an app to create what you want.
- Matthew DeVries
Matthew: Workin' on it :-) Coldbrew: Who appointed you guy who gets to decide what's off-/on-topic? ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Sheppardson, not sure. Just using the convention of looking at the post title. Do you have another metric by which to judge objectively?\
- coldbrew
There's the 1st piece of irony, DeVries, " There are tools to filter and refine your communication with Twitter and Friendfeed." Le Meur's company, Seesmic, makes one of them, but it can't do its job ;-)
- coldbrew
coldbrew: I'd explain, but that'd be off topic :-P
- Ken Sheppardson
2nd piece of irony comes from the fact that Scoble is disseminating it, but he seems to be keeping a very objective stance, neither agreeing nor disagreeing with Le Meur's justifications for his actions.
- coldbrew
Scoble, of course, is "well known" for following so many people all over the ecoshpere [edit: and that is ironic to me]
- coldbrew
Coldbrew: Like a black fly in your chardonnay?
- Matthew DeVries
I find the trend puzzling especially (as @Jim Connolly pointed out) when it's someone like Loic who actually built a tool to help bring method to this madness. Robert, you make it seem so easy and I am in awe as to how you manage to respond to thousands of your followers, both here and on Twitter. It's obvious that not everyone can do it, it's probably getting overwhelming for some.
- MiaD
Matthew: TOTALLY agree with you. I probably wasn't the clearest in my comment above. While I choose to unfollow bots and spammers, I prefer to use tools like Tweetdeck and others to filter conversations. The second half of my comment is what I think will happen if we go the nuclear route: Social media will just become a marketplace where ideas are broadcasted but never sharpened through the dialogue process...I don't want another place where ideas and products are hawked at me without my ability to dialogue
- Drew Sams
Well played, Sheppardson.
- coldbrew
Anyway, promiscuity in public isn't good?
- coldbrew
Unfollowing enmasse isn't good business. GKawasaki "gets" Twitter. @Loic either doesn't get it or doesn't know what 2 do with it. I unfollowed him back.
- Now Voyager
first the morons were all bout braggin bout how many followers they had, now they realize "oh shit, I can't figure out who said what and when" so now they get to un-follow & that is news. Give me a fucking break, follow or don't follow for the right reasons.In reality at the most people can have 300 odd relationships with people and sustain it beyond that it is just Hello and good bye and that's about it.
- Baba
"I unfollowed him back" Oh did ya' now?
- coldbrew
This is like watching a movie about a young passionate teen as he slogs his way the the world, making mistakes, and learning right before your eyes.
- coldbrew
If you can't do the time, don't do the crime. Unfollowing is always an option, but why do it without criteria???
- Jorge Martins Rosa
I could clean up a little, but I like following several hundred. I started in 2006 by following the broadcasters and some of the people that followed them and that they followed. I've slowly increased the number I follow since then. Some days I add about a dozen and unfollow about eight. I like to slowly see what people are saying, participate a little and really meet people. I can manage following hundreds.
- Bill
this is you invite people in you're house and studently you kick everybody out without reasons, i remenber when L L M always ask to be followed on twitter . anyway i also kick out from every where and delete my seemsic account .................... some french people when they become famous they got big head
- Yann
from twhirl
Not sure I agree with @loic but have been thinking the same. The relity is you can only carry relevant conversations with a limited number of people.
- RicardoSilva
I think you should do it. Just look at that number. 69,394. It does no good to follow that many people. Wipe the slate clean.
- techky
I really think Twitter should have group and thread (at least one level)
- Jeremy Chone
I found the original mail on the twitter-dev list:So I have kind of weird request. My boss, who is following 24,386 people (and has 22,752 followers) came to me and wanted me to hack something to wipe out all the people he follows so he can start clean again for various reasons. I'm curious if there is any tools internally at twitter that could help with this maybe because this seems to...
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- Daniel W. Crompton
It's insanely easy to "follow" lots of people. With groups and search in Tweetdeck (sorry @loic) and filters plus tag-focusing services like Twitterfall, I can now focus attention on a "slice" (i.e., a window pane or dialog box). It is very rare that I look at an unfiltered stream. I am almost always looking at a refined view of the entire stream. It kind of reminds me of the Matrix. The "operators" were able to see small nuances in the unadulterated feed.
- Lorin Olsen
Nevertheless, I am intrigued by reducing the number of people I follow. I want to have "intimate" conversations and not just blast tones into an echo chamber. In fairness, that is one of the reasons I am doing more in Friendfeed.
- Lorin Olsen
I think it may be good if people with large followings and who follow a lot of people had two Twitter accounts. One for broadcasting and having the ability to DM many people in your network and the second one solely for listening to quality and engaging with your core network. Doing this may solve the problems referred to above.
- Bill Romanos
@Hutch is quite correct in saying "ask yourself what *you've* gotten from Loic. If you can't answer that question, your unfollow decision should be clear." Exactly!! that should be the criteria for everyone, A-list or not. I've unfollowed some "A-listers" who are focused on things which don't tickle my fancy. Nothing personal of course, the goal is to get focused.
- Eric Gonzalez
By the way, I don't mind an unfollow, but what's up with the "tell me why I should follow you back?" business. Doesn't that seem odd?
- Eric Gonzalez
what is this twitter of which you speak?
- mike "glemak" dunn
Mike, I assume you are not following anybody so you don't need not to take any action. The proposed procedures only concern people who follow somebody else on this thing called Twitter. :-)
- Tapio Kulmala
is there an auto unfollow ?
- Antoine Bertier
Antoine, No. There was once a rumor that they have tested auto-unfollow in their lab. The performance testing results were alarming. They noticed that they should get rid of 90% of their servers in 2 weeks. The CFO decided that they could not afford that kind of capital losses.
- Tapio Kulmala
I just went through my follows on Twitter and removed a bunch of people I'd never heard of before. I forgot I had signed up with socialtoo.com when Scoble mentioned it and it's all turned off now anyway. We'll see later if my own followers suddenly will now go away cause they're using the same type of tools.
- Paul Wade
People feel slighted when unfollowed - decidedly unsocial. And with tools like Tweetdeck and peoplebrowsr allowing you to create groups (i.e. 'core people', or 'people I know' etc), there's no reason why you can't continue to follow loads of people and focus in on the ones who matter to you. It's social to follow back, and helps build relationships, but that doesn't mean you can't focus on the people who matter to you - there are tools.
- Tom Beardshaw
I even had someone I'd met (and we'd made friends on Facebook) unfollow me then add me to a "<name>monitor" twitter account, saying "this is the account I use to keep track of a wider network" - which pretty much tells you they're not paying any attention to you at all. I promptly unfollowed him. Social is multidirectional relationships - I don't like one way relationships - they're bad for your health! I follow everyone who follows me unless they're trying to sell me something
- Tom Beardshaw
So that's what happened--Loic unfollowed and then refollowed me.;-) Someone constantly keeps doing that on my FB acct., too. I must say, the more followers I get lately who are trying to tell me about how to use social media and internet marketing to get rich, the more this option sounds good. Way too many spammers lately, or just folks who aren't bothering to find out about who you really are and how to have a conversation. Ugh.
- Cathryn Hrudicka
Loic method may have been extreme, but I understand where it is coming from, at a certain number, its hard to follow who you are interested in and maybe starting over again is the way to go.. I actually created a second twitter account just for companies and organizations, because I was noticing they were taking over my original account.
- Kim Landwehr
Well - Loic simply has one big problem: He doesn´t use Tweetdeck and the Group feature! LOL
- Dieter Schwarz
Signal vs noise.
- Steve Rubel
OMG huston we have a problum
- Victor
I've already noticed a drop in my followers number. Doesn't matter to me though.
- Paul Wade
Drop in follower, but any increase in participation. That's why I unfollowed so many.
- Richard A.
Looked at who I was following and came to the conclusion most of the people I was following were unneeded, whether due to lack of interesting content or inactivity. Been unfollowing people for the last few weeks. Trying to keep it around 200
- BCK
With tools such as TweetDeck I can setup groups and searches for those tweets I care about the most. Makes number of following irrelevant.
- Robert J Taylor
I give me a chance. follow them for bit see if there interact post anything of value reply to my tweets . If not its just pointless.
- John Cusick
That may work for the twitter elite, but for users like me, it defeats the point of twitter, which is to build community by networking.
- Kelly
My comment is ...I have no comment :))
- SRivera
I semi regularly prune for my following list for relevance (for multiple values of relevance)
- Alec Clews
Terrible idea unless you want to experience true hermit status through the rate of being unfollowed prior to deleting your account.
- Roney Smith
I have always kept a limited number of people I follow. The noise level has been very manageable. T is only one of the conduits for info.
- Dave Ploch
thats retarded
- tommy payne
from twhirl
Like Dave, I'm careful about who I follow in the first place, and I've only had to unfollow a couple of people who got out of hand.
- Julie Barrett
from twhirl
I'm a careful user, and this realm showed me how people can react rapidly to certain things. I've been unfollowed more than I did unfollow. Note that I'm a curious type of guy and love discovering things in everyone. I think that can be a good thing for those whose critical to the point of stopping everything second to witness being too much analyzing those to unfollow. Else, why be that critical to the point of massive cleaning? Is digital managing difficult and tiring for some? Reminds me: GReader refresh
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
I got 0 value out of following @loic, so I lost nothing. I also unfollowed.
- Mike Lewis
I can do the same thing via a Favorite list in FriendFeed.
- Bill Bittner
my god the annoying post that never ends!! :P hahah
- Terry O'Fee
Time, there is not enough time to follow everyone. It has to be narrowed at some point to still be productive in your business. I do not mind visiting a stream and subscribing..just like I do not mind unsubscribing. Just doing a total following everyone or not following anyone is absurd.
- Brian McClure
At the moment this post has close to 400 likes plus comments. Which provokes the thought: rank Friendfeed posts by likes plus comments (for the total life of Friendfeed). Might be interesting.
- Sean McBride
I deleted 700+ people just two weeks ago and it was the most FUN I have had on Twitter in 6 months.
- Daniel Zarick
[∞][twitter needs to make an second time line to US [...] so, we got one to friends and other to network ][ I have 2 accounts to do this]
- dbalieiro
Similar to the concept of declaring e-mail bankruptcy.
- David Pappas
Then it becomes a broadcast, not an exchange. How about unfollow everyone that doesn't add value to your life.
- Martha
Wow, that is interesting timing. Is it spring cleaning time for everyone or what?
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
At least once a week I go through several pages of twitter stream and take a look at everyone on it. I end up unfollowing at least five or six people. I still have hundreds, but it's much less than I would otherwise.
- Sandra Fernandez
as for me, good reasons for unfollowing are ppl following you then unfollowing you immediately, or people not posting in ages, or people where after a while you see having absolutely no exchange on any subject or no common interest. I try to keep my following list clear under these criteria to avoid a bloated following list
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
from twhirl
i prune my list every few weeks and add and delete, keeps it fresher
- susan mernit
I only follow a few people anyway. The "follow everyone you don't know" thing always seemed crazy to me.
- TranceMist
I have no plans of unfollowing any of the people I follow. My setup fits my marketing strategy just fine.. Don't need to jump on the bandwagon. That's the beauty of twitter... do what works for you!!
- Jim Turner
The best tool I've found for getting the most out of twitter is Tweetdeck. Set up groups to stay on top of the conversations generated by the folks you're the closest to.
- Jim Turner
I do a combination of things. I've always been selective about who I follow; if anyone gets to noisy I unfollow them; I filter it through my FriendFeed; I have specific lists set-up in Friend-Feed (even one for "chatter"); I grab the rss feeds for the Friend-Feed lists I want to focus on and have those directly imported into the RSS feed section of my email client (Thunderbird at the moment.) My email feeds have folders and message filtering rules set-up to move everything to the appropriate sub-folders.
- Gail Guy
... I can then quickly identify and scan my favorites, but best of all, I can use my email client functions to "tag" a message a certain color or "star" it as a favorite -- making it easy to find and review at a later time.
- Gail Guy
I think this is brilliant. Curbs the spammers, takes away some incentive from the fakes and keeps Twitter honest. More of my thoughts http://tr.im/gMZ8
- Chris Leonard
As soon as I got Tweetdeck I started following by subject instead of by the person.
- Carl Pruitt
Breaking: Techcrunch are full of shit - http://blog.last.fm/2009...
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wait... everyone's just realizing this now?
- Joshua Schnell
Usually I think you're on the cutting edge, Mona, especially in regards to important bacon news, but this is really old news :D
- Bob M. Montgomery
from twhirl
haha -- you guys... TC is one of my core headline sources. I look at their headlines and Google for other articles LOL. Even if I may think they're full of shit at times, they're still on point re: breaking news. ;) But what a horrible ordeal Last.fm had to go through. And I think it's amazing even the RIAA responded.
- Mona Nomura
from IM
It's a source to find out about new companies showcasing their edgy services. As a news source it's completely unreliable.
- Amit Morson
I'm tempted to "like", but even as mad as they are, I'm not a fan of seeing profanity in a company's official publication.
- Sarah Perez
Learned the Crunch was full of itself about 3 years ago. hence the non-following of such "behemoths".
- tony
i hope this is a wake up call for them. do you think last.fm will do anything about it??
- Terry O'Fee
I spit in the face of techcruch!
- Ryan Speed
TechCrunch writes stories that get spread and this one did. LastFM are doing a good job on handling the situation though, so props to them. 2,701 diggs, wow!
- Jeremy Campbell
from twhirl
"TechCrunch - All The News That's Fit To Shit... OM NOM NOM CRUNCH!" ;) /me hides
- Tyson Key
Though I agree with Sarah regarding the profanity in the title, I look at it more this way: the one profanity in the title is nothing, considering the awful accusation. Either which way, good for Last.fm :)
- Mona Nomura
+10 tyson
- Jim Hearts FF
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- Mark Cheverton
Lifestream of Shimone Samuel - http://www.shimone.info/
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This is a very cool Sweetcron theme
- Andy Murdoch
from Bookmarklet
this is probably the best (and the most intelligent) Sweetcron theme I've seen until now
- Lucio
This is great work - really starting to explore the possibilities of the Sweetcron API now - very inspiring.
- Tom Beardshaw
wow this is a hot looking SweetCron implementation http://www.tombeardshaw.com/
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Neato!
- Toni @ NavinoT
I've released this look for Sweetcron as an open theme - http://www.tombeardshaw.com/items...
- Tom Beardshaw
Really nice, Tom.
- Brian Oberkirch
Sweet
- Christian Anderson
I've got this theme installed on my personal site - just finishing off tweaking it. It's very nice indeed! My (almost complete) version is at http://www.martinbryant.net/index...
- Martin Bryant
I've just given my Sweetcron theme iPhoneability - check out http://www.tombeardshaw.com on yer iPhone innit...
- Tom Beardshaw
Accident-explanatory slings - http://kickstyle.info/2008...
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For all who are getting annoyed answering the same “How this happen” question, Andre Montejorge designed couple of funny and practical slings, aiming to save you the wording, but still illustrating the accident in a comic way.
- Cee Bee
from Bookmarklet
clever
- Hao Chen
No liquor bottle?
- Andrew Smith
true, a self-immolating accident from a drunken binge is missing
- Cee Bee
That makes it easier when asked constantly "what happened' LOL
- Summer
Where's the drunken bar brawl??
- Clay Newton
Or ninja attack?
- Jemm
do they have one for the ski-lift guy?
- Jim Hearts FF
Please tell me that's not your experience, Spidra!!?
- Josh Haley
... with a heater?
- Jim Hearts FF
I need a "failed leap from a picnic table to a tree limb" one for my son right now.
- Dave Roth
I like
- Adriana
LOL. Those are so cool! I would say "I want!" but...um...I really don't
- Mary DeSive
they should stock these in every school nurse's office across the land
- Pete Delucchi
I'd hate to see underwear versions of this.
- Mark Krynsky
I'm in Palo Alto. Just had yogurt at shop that Steve Jobs eats at frequently. They said he was in a couple of days ago and is in great health.
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Now I'm hanging out in the Apple store where Jobs shows up frequently. Will let you know if I learn anything.
- Robert Scoble
Investigative journalism at it's best. :-)
- Andrew Dobrow
Scoble tracking Steve Jobs' eating route. Oh dear.
- Oyvind Solstad
Scoop McScoble.
- Thomas Hawk
What flavor does Steve like? [edit] Seriously, I think it would be interesting. Sort of like asking what your favorite animal is, I think it might reveal something.
- AJ Kohn
You know you are going to make AAPL stock rocket in the morning if you keep this up?
- Dominic Jones
Yeah, I saw him last month eating spicy Indian food and swiping through his black iPhone. He looked perfectly fine.
- Mason Lee
Are you stalking him or is this a 'walk a mile in his shoes' sort of thing?
- Captain Bubbles
Scoble- our man in Palo Alto. Thanks.
- Roberto Bonini
AJ: they wouldn't tell me. :-) But they say that they deliver a whole bunch to Apple's executives every week.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Have missed your FF comments today!
- Michael Krigsman
You do realize that if you keep this up and you're going to be nabbed as a SJ stalked.
- amygeek
"In Search Of" LOL
- Von Glitschka
The store is http://www.fraicheyogurt.com/ by the way.
- Robert Scoble
it's the paparazzi on Steve Jobs!
- Elijah Nicolas
Of course they gave me a sales pitch for how their yogurt is keeping him healthy. :-)
- Robert Scoble
What is it with the reemergence of yogurt shops these days anyway? It's like it's 1983 all over again. Are they replacing coffee shops?
- Ciaoenrico
@Scoble @AJ I bet it's Schnozberry (sorry for the obscure reference)
- Andrew Dobrow
http://swanktastic.org/... I guess other people have met Jobs there.
- Robert Scoble
I'm watching the after-hours trading in AAPL to see if this great breaking news has any impact. Still four minutes left.... Will update :-)
- Dominic Jones
Ciaonenrico: I had a latte there too. The yogurt is the best in Northern California.
- Robert Scoble
They need some help with their blog: http://www.fraicheyogurt.com/blog...
- AJ Kohn
http://scobleizer.com/2008... is my report and photos of one of the co-owners. It always has a line of people waiting to get in.
- Robert Scoble
Why is it that Apple isn't confirming or denying anything do you think, Robert?
- Mona Nomura
Mona: Apple won't confirm or deny anything. Try asking them whether Steve Jobs is CEO. I bet they wouldn't confirm or deny that.
- Robert Scoble
@Mona N. Because they believe it's no one's business if Steve sneezes.
- Dominic Jones
The real CEO is clearly Dick Cheney
- Andrew Dobrow
So, he's still alive? ;) BTW, what is THE interview you wish to make in 2009?
- Konstantin
But clearly, he is not well... isn't it about time they say SOMETHING? :\
- Mona Nomura
Then what? Sell your stock? If Apple's value is so wrapped around one person isn't that a clear risk already?
- Hayes Haugen
Konstantin: 1. Barack Obama. 2. Steve Jobs. 3. Steve Ballmer. 4. Mark Zuckerberg. 5. Bret Taylor. 6. Evan Williams. 7. Jonathan Ives. 8. Vic Gundotra. 9. Barack's CTO. 10. A bunch of geeks who I don't know but who are changing the world.
- Robert Scoble
It has nothing to do with stock, it's handling smooth transitions IF there is something wrong so we (consumers) have confidence in them (Apple).
- Mona Nomura
Mona: we're all dying. I know a lot of people who have died that were very healthy. Or seemed to be. Marc Orchant anyone? I don't know that Steve isn't well. Having cancer can cause you to live healthy and lose weight. But, I already assume the dude will die. So will I. Until he's ready to talk I have to assume he's fine. Obviously he's not bedridden if he's coming into yogurt stores.
- Robert Scoble
Red Mango or Fraiche? I prefer Red Mango on University.
- Randy Ksar
from twhirl
Randy: I'm partial to Fraiche. Maybe we need a taste-off? :-)
- Robert Scoble
We're all speculating and won't know for sure until Steve Jobs either steps down or retires. Either which way, this is really bad on Apple's part because they are (to me) encouraging rumors and speculation, irresponsible journalism, and publishing. The question is: Are we ok with that?
- Mona Nomura
Mona: Apple is too secretive about everything. But that's who they are and they probably know that this publicity is good for them. It keeps us all wondering what the real story is. Guarantees everyone will attend Jobs' next press conference.
- Robert Scoble
If people are getting worried when a CEO is getting thin, shouldn't we be more worried over weight CEOs? They are more all of a heart attack time-bomb than SJ is a health risk. Why don't we ask all those fat CEOs to disclose *their* health record?
- Clarence Chiang
Clarence: yes. +1000.
- Robert Scoble
I'm not worried about him. Is no one familiar with the old adage, "An Apple a day keeps the Doctor away."
- Kevin Murray
Clarence: It's not just any CEO. It is Steve Jobs. Do you think his predecessor will generate this much news? Robert: I understand that, but that is so not ok, in my book.
- Mona Nomura
Mona: Apple doesn't listen to me on PR issues either. Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
hahhahahhahhahha
- Mona Nomura
There's a Red Mango here, and I've had Fraiche. I prefer Fraiche.
- Jesse Stay
I find myself wondering if SJ has an Alcor policy.
- Michael R. Bernstein
Who is Steve Jobs?
- Steve Rubel
Do they even make apple yogurt? It probably tastes better if you eat it with a mock turtle neck on.
- Keith Beucler
Great reporting Robert. The real losers here are the gossip sites like Gizmodo who perpetuate rumors with "anonymous sources" who are "100 %" correct.
- James
So I was there today with Robert when he got the scoop. Spiderman's frenemy James Defranco was spotted there. http://www.fraicheyogurt.com/
- Ross Mayfield
Why don't u interview him? I can see it now... "so who are you?"
- mal
That place is buzzing - why hasn't anyone else reported seeing him there?
- Jesse Stay
Hope he's well. In any case, despite all the coverage, what I haven't heard about is whether Apple's doing anything at CES? Do they usually exhibit? CES isn't something I've paid any attention to in the past but if Apple's becoming (as some are saying) the new Sony, wouldn't CES be important?
- Gordon Vaughan
Apple never goes to CES. Apple has its own show from now on: it's called its network of stores and Engadget. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Schnozberry! Who's ever heard of a schnozberry?
- Kerri
Now that Jobs has made his January 5 announcement, we can all reflect. In my view, even if they didn't know anything, Apple & Jobs should have made some sort of statement in December, when the Macworld announcement was made. It wouldn't have been perfect, especially since they may not have known about the hormonal imbalance at the time, but better to say something than nothing. If nothing else, it would have kept Robert out of the yogurt shop. :)
- Ontario Emperor
iPhone Pro Concept: Yay or Nay? - http://gizmodo.com/5119445...
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60GB of storage, true 16:9 aspect ratio, slide-out keyboard, one megapixel front camera for iChat, and a high quality camera, with good lenses, optical zoom, and video capability.
- Mona Nomura
from Bookmarklet
I give it a thumbs up. As long as all the current basic shortcomings (which are well documented) are also addressed.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
I like Jesus' D-pad concept - I hope Apple comes out with something like this, though now that Giz published it I doubt they'd do it. Just because they (Apple) will never stand for someone else taking credit for their design LOL
- Mona Nomura
from IM
Why not have an HD video and macro lens with a removable battery. But wait, it looks too thick. -rolls eyes- It's a PHONE not a mobile studio!
- Mona Nomura
from IM
Looks like a Netbook to me :-)
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
The key word in that URL is "dream". Steve Jobs said a keyboard was "never considered" during development. And if it were bound for MWSF, he'd go!
- Louis Gray
The keyboard won't happen, nor would it be needed in my opinion, but the rest of the specs win. Would be nice to have a decent camera + front camera, after all, wasn't 3G originally pitched as all about video chat?
- Duncan Riley
LOVE IT! I just hope that if Apple were to make something similar to that they would reinforce their polycarbonate so we would see any cracks like before.
- Michael Forian
3G was pitched as streaming - when the networks/lables still had power. They weren't anticipating Hulu, Pandora, Last.fm, et al. to get this big... if I remember correctly. But now, I think 3G is more relevant for cloud computing.
- Mona Nomura
from IM
Never going to happen but super cool! This would kind of piss me off though since I would be very tempted to buy the new phone (of course does Apple ever not tempt me at least a little?).
- Brandon Titus
But wouldn't this prototype make more sense than a Nano phone?
- Mona Nomura
Don't want the keyboard, but I'd love a decent quality camera - that's the only thing that keeps the N95 in my pocket as my personal phone (the iPhone is my office phone!).
- John
I think we all need to know that if a new "iPhone" were to come out, be it the Nano version or not, the form factor really couldn't change seeing that the screen resolution would have to be the exact same as the iPhone 3G.
- Michael Forian
@Mona: I don't think so because they like small, sleek products and I can't imagine such a major switch to a physical keyboard after so much effort has been put it to the touchscreen software. Also, the market for a cheaper iPhone is much larger than for a more expensive one (since they are already quite expensive as it is). From what I've seen, many people in the corporate arena want iPhones but are unable to use them based on IT constraints, they don't care about more features. This is a niche market.
- Brandon Titus
I'd buy an iphone with a proper keypad. That's my major hangup on the phone
- Mo Kargas
Mona, you might not be old enough to remember, but I remember 3G before it was rolled out and the demos ALWAYS included video chat ;-)
- Duncan Riley
I think "less is more" is the Apple way. Just throwing in the maximum amount of the latest chips and hardware without considering the user experience (or UI) is just what all the other phone manufacturers have done. If you throw in 10 mp camera and video you´re just going to use more storage and battery while you still need a camera on the side to get good pictures. Else the optics and sensor etc. would make the "iPhone Pro" much too bulky. If I wanted a Nokia I would have bought a Nokia.
- Thomas Bøhm
@Brandon: Push dev kit IS coming and when it does come, BlackBerry needs to step its game up because that and battery life are the two reasons business users are hesitating to switch. When more business users jump on board, I think Apple may consider making the 'pro' series (with keyboard), while keeping the current models for non business users.
- Mona Nomura
@Duncan - OMG now that I think about it, weren't they advertising video chat since the 2G days? (Back in 03ish, if I remember correctly). @Thomas: I don't think the camera would be fancified, but I would not be surprised if they *did* come out with a keyboard.
- Mona Nomura
I don't agree that any slide out keyboard is coming. I understand why people want it but Apple doesn't really cater to people's pre-conceived notions of what they want. Steve makes them want what he has created and they have created the touch screen interface.
- Brandon Titus
But another thing Jobs is good at is forecasting. If anything, they may venture to external peripherals - like right now, there're batteries, headsets, etc. Though it wouldn't make much sense business wise for Apple to give the third party makers all the reign for profit. Because accessories is a very lucrative business.
- Mona Nomura
I think Apple would come up with a slide-out dual screen with tactile touch feedback instead of the slide-out keyboard :) Then the "keyboard space" could morph into what keys are needed all the time, or just a giant (dual) screen for browsing.
- Thomas Bøhm
Like BlackBerry's pterodactyl-ish specs that leaked? :\
- Mona Nomura
You mean the blackberry with the "tipping" touch screen ? No, I think Apple has a patent for focused tactile feedback on the screen surface.
- Thomas Bøhm
I agree with @Thomas and @Brandon, I don't think a slide out keyboard is in the near or foreseeable future of the iPhone.
- Vinko
No, this thingie http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008... (Apple has WAY too many patents for me to keep up with LOL)
- Mona Nomura
from IM
this is so wrong ! please don't mess with the design
- cihanergur
Mona: Ok, NO, definitely nothing like that:) A physical keyboard with even more keyboard on flimsy wings would be quite the opposite of the Apple way I think. I mean like the new lenovo laptop with the dual screen sliding in behind the main screen, only touch screens, tactile feedback on the lower, and on an iphone. Omg, I just turned into a crazy concept apple fanboi myself..
- Thomas Bøhm
No way. And this would be why: "Clear iPhone 3G Replacement Case Shows Its Fugly Guts" http://gizmodo.com/5119300... There is no way a screen would fit, imho. And LOL at your last sentence hahahhaha!
- Mona Nomura
Yes, of course a slide-out screen would make it fuglier and bulkier, but so would a slide-out physical keyboard. And really, I, and Apple I think, like the sturdy iphone form factor as it is today.
- Thomas Bøhm
How about something less dreamy, how about an iPod touch with a camera that has a better lens than iPhone's, would that make sense?
- Jeduan Cornejo
Uh huh, the iPhone as a gaming device. I'll believe it when I see it.
- Will Higgins™
iPod touch with a camera? Not happening. With hacks that allow it to be VoIP devices, I think AT&T forced Apple to include an: iPhone = only touch device w/ camera. @Will: What are you talking about, gaming device? Like this? http://www.youtube.com/results... or are you referring to a multi-media handset?
- Mona Nomura
from IM
What a bizarre thing to say, Paul. Keyboards are the past? I disagree.
- Mona Nomura
Keyboards are great. I've got a Nokia E71, and my GF got an iPhone. Even though the keys on E71 are rather small, I can type waaay faster on it than on the iPhone. Keyboards are niche, though. Most people would sacrifice fast typing on a plastic keyboard for a bigger screen with an on-screen keyboard.
- Kirill Petrovsky
Agreed - that is one of the strangest things I've heard anyone say. Though BB's pearl double tap keyboard is just plain WRONG. The trick to the iPhone (I've found) is mistyping and enabling the auto-correct to kick in.
- Mona Nomura
LD: Definitely agreed. Have you noticed the BlackBerry Curve's buttons feels like a Treo's?
- Mona Nomura
I don't want the current virtual keyboard to go away in place of the physical one. Why? I type Japanese as well as English, and the Japanese-specific 10-key layout is much more convenient to type Japanese than the QWERTY. The physical keyboard allows only one layout. That's so 20th century.
- Dai Freddie Toyama
Typing in Japanese the virtual one IS better but QWERTY keyboards are so ergonomically correct and I can type SO fast on them. I think it'd depend on your needs. If Apple were to integrate a keyboard, it would most likely have a keyboard and virtual keyboard.
- Mona Nomura
all I can say is...Don't do it Apple. Don't want a slider phone and don't want a physical keyboard. If I wanted a Blackberry, I would have bought one. The extra storage and front camera would be nice though.
- Bob Blunk
This would be fantastic! I'd jump for it. I hate touchscreen typing
- KyNam Doan
Hmm... if we are talking fantasies then I wanna throw in "expandable memory" into this PRO concept as well! :-)
- vijay
@Duncan - I also remember the 3G launch in the UK (back when 3 were the only operator to even have something partially resembling a national network), and they put a heavy emphasis on video calling, their "walled garden" Internet approach (i.e. access only to a custom content portal, and a then free-of-cost but now charged for e-mail service), and video content streaming. Despite them saying that they'll offer unrestricted Internet access from day 1, they've only started offering it in the UK recently.
- Tyson Key
that would be the perfect device. multitouch, proper d-pad, two analog buttons...front/back cam. now if only it has the power to render pixar movies in a day and never run out of battery....
- Chris Hofmann
I seriously don't need the keyboard either--I would be very happy with getting the horizontal option for all apps and not just Safari (esp Mail and IM). It would be cool if the keyboard was more of an optional peripheral that could be removed. Besides that--thumbs WAY up for a a better camera and more storage...
- Kelly W.
Okay, this iPhone concept gets my vote. I'd buy it now if the price was uner $1000.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Yummy. Want.
- Tom Beardshaw
Why does anyone what Apple to create a Nokia N810?
- Paul W. Swansen
Bring it! But I don't know if it's for me, I would have to try it out before giving up my 3G. I had the Samsung i760 before the iPhone, which has the slide out, not one-handed use, Treo 700w or something before that (Palm then Windows Slowbile, er I mean Mobile).
- mandyvan
I would love it. I think it would be better to have a actual keyboard. Touchscreen keyboards just aren't where they need to be yet. And 60 GBs of storage! That would certainly keep me from having to buy a new iPod.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Paul - The iPhone's biggest selling point is usability and not Nokia like features. For multi media (video, music purposes) Nokia has been in the game a long time, plus they have Bluetooth and better audio outputs. When Apple releases push, more businesses users will jump on it (iphone) and to appeal to a wider audience, a keyboard - external or not, is not a far stretch imho.
- Mona Nomura
from IM
"I've an iPhone 3G." Really? Does anyone think this is proper grammar?
- Chris Luckhardt
@Chris Since "I've" is a contraction of "I have" yes it is proper. It is, anecdotally, more widely used in Britain than in the US so it may appear odd.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
I'll settle for it not being linked to AT&T. Though I wonder if a keyboard peripheral will ever be possible - I don't see why not.
- Eric P
Odadeo goes public! - http://blog.odadeo.com/2008...
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- Jen (SquirrelGirl)
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A Mike Fruchter guest blog.
- Robert Scoble
Good work, Mike!
- Daniel J. Pritchett
None of my fellow writers are "guests". They have all the keys.
- Louis Gray
Louis: it's really lame, though, that it says that "Louis Gray posted an entry" here in FriendFeed. I don't know how to fix that, though.
- Robert Scoble
There is a way to select "this blog has multiple authors" and have it only pull in those that I write, but you'll see Mashable, TechCrunch etc. don't make any distinction. The alternative is that "guest" posts would not show up on my feed, but only on theirs, and that would lower the visibility.
- Louis Gray
When you setup a blog in FF, there's an option to specify it's a multi-author blog, and indicate which author is you
- Aaron B. Hockley
from IM
Hey Mike welcome to the guest...err keys to Gray manner club. Great post btw.
- Mark Krynsky
Louis: I guess I don't like it when people lend their name out on FriendFeed. It fools me and it really does piss me off. It pisses me off when TechCrunch does it, but at least there I don't have the expectation that Mike Arrington is doing all the posts. When you use your name on your blog, like you do, I expect that you wrote the content there.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: That is why users need more settings to modify the incoming feed from people they subscribe to. Similar to imaginary friends, and more.
- Rolf Schewe
Robert, by now you should know to check the author, regardless :) Mike, congrats on getting the keys to Louis' place. Great post as usual, quite a few I hadn't even thought of.
- Tim Hoeck
Robert, as we have more writers on the site, that is one of the debates. Do I keep it with my name or get branded? We'll see.
- Louis Gray
Tim: if I stay in China much longer I think I'm going to need the keys to Louis' blog. I can get to his, but can't get to mine! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Louis: you should just change the name to "Louis Gray and Friends."
- Robert Scoble
Scoble, when you are coming back to the states?
- Mike Fruchter
Mike: next Tuesday.
- Robert Scoble
@Scoble, That's excellent. We miss you, hurry up back. Leave the chicken feet behind :)
- Mike Fruchter
I've never really thought about putting FF feeds into Google Reader, might give that a go, thanks Louis.
- Kol Tregaskes
Actually, we (the Mashable writers) do use the multi-author feature of FF ... just Pete's account shows all the posts ...
- Adam Ostrow
It would be really cool if you could comment and like within Google Reader.
- Kol Tregaskes
Louis (or Mike), do you use RSS for your twitter line instead of the actual twitter software (s) out there? That would seem to get overwhelming veyr quickly, no?
- Amani
I use TweetBeep to track specific keywords to my e-mail, and TweetScan to RSS, Amani.
- Louis Gray
Louis Gray and Friends sounds wicked like a childrens show, for some reason I get an image of the Banana Splits and Yo Gabba Gabba! You could also make it like the Indie bands - Louis Gray and the Grayettes :)
- Joe Dawson
Nice idea Joe, but I refuse to be called a Grayette. I do not have legs that people want to see in a skirt.
- Rob Diana
Congrats Mike!!!!!!!!!!! wooo hooo!!!! :) BTW, I like Roberts suggestion of "Louis Gray and Friends"... nice
- Susan Beebe
LOL
- Mona Nomura
This post's style looks like Guy Kawasaki's one.
- Igor Poltavskiy
Hmm...ok....
- Kamath (नमः)
New "TechCrunch" on LouisGray.com is a good idea.
- Igor Poltavskiy
Great job Mike!
- Corvida
Duude. 67 likes.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
wayyyyy cool!
- Gerd Leonhard
What Happens to Our Social Profiles After We Die? - http://mashable.com/2008...
Tim Hoeck, Jason R. Hunter, Angela and 40 other people liked this
My first post on Mashable.com
- Mike Fruchter
Congratulations Mike. I wonder who tipped them off to you?
- Louis Gray
Go Mike!
- Hutch Carpenter
I believe they will meet you in heaven, along with spot, grandma, and your favorite goldfish. Don't worry. You'll all be together again. Nothing is ever wasted :-)
- Todd Hoff
Goooo Mike! (reading now...)
- Justin Korn
Yay, congratulations Mike!! :)
- Mona Nomura
In last.fm they'll write 'dead' instead of 'subscriber' under your profile photo...
- Emrah Özcan
@Louis, I've wondered the same thing :-) Mona, Justin, Hutch, Thanks!!
- Mike Fruchter
If our web services last forever, any auto feeds we have setup will continue to produce content.
- Mike Reynolds
Interesting post Mike. I still maintain the MySpace page for the great Dr. Art Davis (Bass player, Coltrane) After he passed, it was the way for his students, fans and friends to connect. http://myspace.com/drartdavis - I would hope that others keep this in mind and leave a e-trail. Part of our new reality is that our social presence needs some tending to when we leave this plane.
- michael sean wright
And... congratulations on the first post!
- michael sean wright
Wonderful, thoughtful post. Something new to think about.
- Mark Dykeman
Great post Mike. This is a topic that a lot of us that research the Millennial generation have been discussing.
- Kevin Bondelli
Great stuff! I hate the idea of all those friend requests and blog comments I'll miss when I'm dead :)
- Martin Bryant
itsyourfuneral.com is taken, otherwise I would have posted an alpha invite link here
- Ben Watson
from twhirl
Nice. I wrote a post about this in german some months ago http://id-o.de/2008... status dead - should blog more in english will try
- Florian
Mike, Mark, thanks! This was a morbid subject. I'm glad it got a few people thinking, including myself. You guys have a great weekend.
- Mike Fruchter
They hang around together as electrons in limbo.
- Phil Boiarski
There should be a "will" part of every profile populated by the profile owner when the account is created
- ayca
Congrats Mike on the Mashable gig - Noticed this morning and shared it in GReader. Keep rockin'!
- Charlie Anzman
damn.. somehow this didn't pop out after my long weekend! Awesome post subject for your first Mashable :) This really is an eerie thing to look at, but it is something that everyone should think about. A friend from work passed, and to this day his profile lives on, sad but at the same time, sort of comforting. Very interesting idea, ayca!
- Tim Hoeck
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