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Jesse Stay

Twitter Suspending Accounts in Droves - http://staynalive.com/article...

July 5 from Stay N' Alive - Comment - Like - Share

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Good! I have got follows from more spam accounts the past couple weeks than I've ever gotten. - Mike Bracco

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I <3 FriendFeed Real-Time search - it lets me see Twitter Fail, as it happens - Jesse Stay

Thanks for the heads up. BTW, here is the retweet from the SPAM account: RT @SPAM If someone you just KNOW isn't a spammer is suspended right now, their account is prob contaminated and we're fixing it. - RAD Moose

I'm glad about the real spammos being zapped, but sure is odd they have to temporarily suspend bona fide accounts in droves!!! Thanks for staying on top of this Jesse. Where is Mashable when we need them?? Nothing from Pete et al yet... - Mari Smith

Hopefully it will get rid of all those Kathy34982s and Elisa9867s - Carlton Prest

they're suspending legit accts, but the bots and spammers aren't getting banned the way they need to. - Dawn S. Lambe

I have gotten a lot of spam followers in the past few weeks. - John (a.k.a. dendroica)

My account was suspended for some reason. Awhile ago I had some duplicate posts due to wayward drupal module however for some reason it was suspended in the last 4 hours. I was using twollow and was following "online marketing" so that I could learn more from people discussing online marketing. Could this have caused it? I sent in a support request so we will see what happens. - Brian Kenyon from iPod

FYI I'm going to update the post but that message from @spam is from May 30 - it appears that Twitter does not yet know about this one - Jesse Stay from iPhone

I got suspended and I am not spam! A lot of good Tweets are getting suspended. - Kimber Scott

Un-oh. Why do they say they are doing it? - Francine Hardaway

4chan is currently to blame, they were trying to get on the top of trending topics (and succeeded) - mjc

Michael, I'm wondering if it happened for some reason due to that. Maybe Twitter got trigger happy to kill the attack. - Jesse Stay

Doesn't necessarily make sense. If the problem is the gorilla anatomy thing, wouldn't they just go after those accounts? - John E. Bredehoft from fftogo

John, has Twitter ever made sense? - Jesse Stay

"There seems to be a wave of suspensions going around Twitter today, and it’s turning quickly into an echo chamber of confusion and frustration. We’ve received several tips (the first one being from Mashable guest writer Matt Singley) that a range of users are being taken down, including some with large followings such as @marismith and the LA Times Top of the Ticket account." http://mashable.com/2009... - Kimber Scott

Kimber, check out the comments on my post - you'll see there are many more. Also check out the real-time stream and you'll see people complain real-time. - Jesse Stay

They suspend @marismith but not @GangbangGirl @cumcandy & @kellikanyon. That's rich - Peggy Dolane

Yes, Jesse, I saw the stream and the other comments. My Twitter account is working again. Thank goodness. - Kimber Scott from email

I didn't get suspended. Glad in a way, but not sure I care about it. I don't bother with twitter much anymore. I'm mainly here on friendfeed now. - Jannifer @wordsforliving

I like it here on FriendFeed. I like the features and the fact you can have a real conversation. Besides, I feel very distrustful of Twitter now. - Kimber Scott from email

Twitter has become a farm house for spammers - Michael_techie

Kol Tregaskes

Build a Backyard Wood-Fired Pompeii Oven [Weekend Project] - http://lifehacker.com/5286115...

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Robert Scoble

Facebook? Up 10%. Twitter? Up 16%. FriendFeed? Flat - http://scobleizer.com/2009...

July 9 from Scobleizer - Comment - Like - Share

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My analysis of where FriendFeed has gone wrong. Keep in mind that FriendFeed is growing faster than many blogs are, and is outpacing TechMeme, for instance. - Robert Scoble

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FF needs Shaq. - mtlb

yup, they need celebrities. bring them oprah! - Alex

FF is an incubator for Facebook - Peter Warnock

Someone said they can't believe FriendFeed isn't gaining momentum. It is, but not at the same rate Facebook and Twitter are. - Robert Scoble

I don't think FriendFeed can compete with Facebook. I don't think it should, they're different tools. - Glenn Slaven

friendfeed is not so easy for most people to "use" or view, I think twitter is the easiest, facebook is good for people who like it.. I 'use" friendfeed to post things that go to twitter and facebook but I do not come here a lot to read posts. After reading a page of posts and comments I have had enough, it is like reading 15+ blogs with comments, a little too bulky? - David Gross

8-10% of ALL techmeme posts are from TechCrunch why such a high rate? - Benjamin Taylor

Why compare? I like FF for what it is. I don't want it to be in the same convo as Twitter and FB. It has nicely defined user base, a distinct design and functionality and has 2 great uses: conversation and self-aggregation - Dave Ferrick

"The search industry has a dirty secret: 99% of people don’t click on advanced search, yet FriendFeed requires you to click on that button to use it in any useful way." You're right, but I find it interesting that FriendFeed's advanced search is the only advanced search I use. Maybe FriendFeed is a tool for the more advanced social networkers? Maybe it's not for everyone. - Kevin Gamble

FF needs SMS before it gets Shaq - Jesse Stay

I think FF is hesitant to make it a full-blown Twitter client because that would import all the spam. - Peter Warnock

In terms of FriendFeed it's a fantastic tool for setting up a "lifestream" feed to your blog. really simple way to own your social media without plugins - Benjamin Taylor

do they have an iPhone app ? are they "mobile" ? - Alex

Robert, FriendFeed will catch on...in 2010 - Benjamin Taylor

Compete can't measure everything. For example, they think fftogo.com had 320 visits last month. - Bruce Lewis

They can just make a really good FriendFeed client. What we are doing right now is the hidden power of FriendFeed. Allowing people to continue the conversation beyond the original post. - Dave Mora

@Jesse Isn't twitter the SMS input? - Peter Warnock

I find this a hilarious slap in the face for you Scoble, but honestly, FriendFeed does not have the simplicity of Twitter to be quite honest, and I have a much higher chance of using Twitter with a third party app than this. Still, it's all about if you're friends or people you want to watch are on here, and for me, they aren't, - Chris

Seconding alex's question. I would use a FF iPhone app in a heartbeat - Tristan Walker from iPhone

I mainly use friendfeed to post to it for people who like to read (bookmarklet and other stuff) and so friendfeed can post to twitter and facebook. I would like if it posted to myspace too :o) - David Gross

Dave has a great point, it's FF provides a deeper layer of the conversation - Benjamin Taylor

Robert, the list is backwards... it should be API, Mobile, monetization, etc.. - Alberto Saavedra

I can believe it. For the average joe twitter is easy and straightforward to get started. FF, not so much. You have a lot of credentials to input for your various services and the UI is like a corn maze even to some of my more techie friends. Also, having an established crowed never hurt. I appreciate FF and really see it's power, but most people do not and aren't willing to learn. - John Reynolds

They need SMS before an iPhone app - most of the nation still does not have internet on their cell phone - Jesse Stay

Alberto: it's 4 a.m. here in London and the list is in no particular order, just straight off the top of my head. - Robert Scoble

friendfeed is NOT mobile unless you are on an iphone.. - David Gross

FF tripped these past two months because of a lack of iphone apps, lack of a good SUL, lack of a good intro for new members, lack of comments happening for new members. While FF has moved forward on some fronts - they still need better integration into blogs then we'll see a better uptake. - LPH™ and his dog P™

John, exactly! The only thing I truly use this for is the occasional conversation bit and tying last.fm to my Twitter account. - Chris

SMS can't be the answer right away, particularly when the major value add for FF is in the threaded conversation. - Tristan Walker from iPhone

David, even on an iphone, FF trips - LPH™ and his dog P™

jesse: SMS=money. plus, how effective do you think FF could be via sms? - John Reynolds

Tristan - FriendFeed will never go to the masses if they don't have SMS support - Jesse Stay

even if we forget the thought of monetization - my idea about creating a whitelabel ff to replace forums would drastically increase the usage and the understanding of the service - http://www.centernetworks.com/friendf... - ff has to get out from under the early adopter rock - without going down the exact same path as twitter - my suggestion does exactly that. - Allen Stern

@LPH o rly? so it is not so easy to make it mobile.. - David Gross

John, as effective as Twitter. Most remote people can't access it via the internet, but they can via SMS. Twitter is making SMS work - FriendFeed can as well. - Jesse Stay

I agree Jesse, but what does that product look like? How does one keep up with the 'conversation' and stay relevant - Tristan Walker from iPhone

Tristan, the same way they're doing the IM link above - Jesse Stay

i disagree with the sms talk - all it would do is help the current users use it more - that's worthless for ff now - sorry jesse don't hate me :) - Allen Stern

sms would not work, even email does not work and I get that on my phone.. there is too much of it.. - David Gross

Allen, I think it would get new users. Many users use Twitter mostly through SMS - it's what made Twitter appealing for me. It's why I used Twitter in South Dakota and Minnesota and Wyoming and not FriendFeed. - Jesse Stay

SMS is not the future people. The future lies in ubiquitous data connectivity from all mobile devices with a growing amount of the market shifting towards more flexible touch screen interfaces and the iphone the leader of that market, the iphone is a perfect platform to put focus. - John Reynolds

I like what Posterous is doing in terms of post methods - Benjamin Taylor

Twitter hit a major booster rocket with the Hudson and iran and prop 8 - coupled with CNN shitting the bed. Now that dictators know about twitter, they're derailing it ahead of incursions. We've not heard thing 1 out of china on the uiger uprising. Never tracked. Ff should fill that gap. We need to strat crawling the boards for blow by blow uigerstan massacre stories. Boom, ff is the bees knees - Matthew DeVries from fftogo

It's just not inviting. A fraction too complicated. I signed up but really haven't used it since but I'm active on twitter because it's simple and I can do it with 1% of my brain. FF doesn't give me that and yet I know why it is technically a 'better' more advanced system than Twitter - philhenley

I have to clean up my gmail before I go mobile because on my phone this conversation will be multiple messages even though in gmail it is one conversation lol - David Gross

jesse - as robert noted - most people using twitter have no reason to be on ff - my sister is one of them - she has no need to aggregate a bunch of services - so sms won't "move" or "add" new users from twitter. my discussion board idea would. - Allen Stern

The current FriendFeed audience is anti-SMS though. You guys will never be for it, but mark my words - the audience FriendFeed does want that will bring in the masses will come when they enable SMS - Jesse Stay

David - the iphone apps are not quite good enough and the mobile interface on the iphone is worthless if the subscriptions are too high. - LPH™ and his dog P™

Allen, FriendFeed needs a simpler layer, and I think SMS is part of that. People don't have to use the whole thing, or even know it exists. They need a simple way to post statuses from anywhere they belong. So long as we're comparing them to Twitter, they have to do what Twitter does. Otherwise, why are we comparing them to Twitter at all? - Jesse Stay

allen, I am on twitter and I love FF, I read blogs in google reader and any blog I share is posted to twitter through ff, I can favorite a youtube video from their mobile site and it is also posted on twitter through ff - David Gross

Frankly, Jesse, the last thing I want is my phone beeping at me 100 times a minute. Do you realize how many SMS messages you would get from just THIS entry? - Tommy Keene

Jesse I'm a big big fan of SMS..I use it for Twitter all the time...but I could not imagine using SMS for a conversation like this. Sms does the job when it comes to status updates and notifications. No brainer - Tristan Walker from iPhone

In terms of the gains at twitter and Facebook, flat isn't bad. Although a few percentage points would have been nice. - Michael Fidler

and actually, just making those links on the right anything but bog standard would really help FF look less like a beta product. It always feels to me like it's half finished - philhenley

Tommy, that's what preferences and options are for - Jesse Stay

Friendfeed missed the 'boom' that Iran and MJ brought to twitter and FB. The only rason I can think of it, it was easier for people to join convos about those topics in twitter and fb than 'find' them in friendfeed. FF is still growing so nothing to be worried about. it will grow in its own pace as it has been doing. - Freddie Benjamin

jesse - come to nyc - we will go to times square and ask how many people use sms or want to signup for ff to handle their sms and aggregate all their social services - you can even wear your social median shirt! - Allen Stern

Tommy, and frankly, the power of Twitter SMS aren't the status updates I receive - it's the ability to post SMS updates - Jesse Stay

My bad Robert, thought the numbers were priority. Jesse, unfortunately FriendFeed currently is perceived as a web app while twitter is kind of device agnostic - Alberto Saavedra

I don't want to micro-manage my 100s of subscriptions - Tommy Keene

I think Twitter and FriendFeed should just join forces and create a super social site: Fritter! - Shawn Hickman

Allen, only if you come to South Dakota and Wyoming and Minnesota with me to ask the same questions - Jesse Stay

Comment Control.. Cleaner interface (I never liked the redesign) ... and Media coverage :) - Tim Hoeck

Alberto, and that is unfortunate - it's why, so long as we're comparing it to Twitter, it will never have the numbers Twitter has - Jesse Stay

Jesse, so then post to twitter. And it gets put into your ff automatically. What's the problem? - Tommy Keene

jesse: ill mark your words, but i think they are wrong. the audience they want now, is anyone who will come. twitter is already going to get those people due to its popularity and simplicity. In a few years the majority of the audience will have moved to smart phones with broadband connections and advanced touch UI's. There needs to be an iphone app. NOW. - John Reynolds

Tommy, the problem is Twitter still gets that traffic - Jesse Stay

as I watch this thread I wonder.. why can't I "pop-out" a thread and watch it, like a chat room.. hard to follow a conversation.. - Tim Hoeck

tim - if you click on the time, you get a dedicated page - but i agree with you - a "control center" would be nice - Allen Stern

how about a mobile website before you make iphone app? is it so hard to make Like and Comment links that work in Opera Mobile or IE Mobile? - David Gross

Can anyone imagine trying to take part in this conversation effectively via SMS? I can't. This much data needs a well designed UI and smart, easy to use filtering and notification tools. - John Reynolds

It was SMS that enabled me to be the first report on the GreenPeace protest at Mount Rushmore - there was no internet there. It is those interesting Tweets that make Twitter interesting and appealing. It's the information, real-time content, and capability to post anywhere, any time that makes Twitter appealing. I can't necessarily do that everywhere with FriendFeed. It will never compete with Twitter in that regard. - Jesse Stay

Information is flowing away and not stocked. This is the main problem. Solution is in applications as you said. Friendfeed should create a great developer community to spread their APIs. They need an another funding for developer contests. Or just one acquiring may solve this motivation problem of developers, like Twitter's Summize sourcing. - Erhan Erdogan

sms wont get new users. - Allen Stern

Allen, prove it - Jesse Stay

I like Allen's white label idea. - Michael Fidler

ahh.. thanks Allen.. guess that is one of those "usability" things :) - Tim Hoeck

I would not use ff in sms.. too many messages to go through, I would be way behind on my reading, it would be worse than my email.. - David Gross

thanks michael - i truly believe that it would open ff past the geekcore that it sits with now - sadly none of ff management has ever replied or commented on any of my ideas for them - Allen Stern

tim - i only learned that last week - i agree why there isnt a button is beyond me - Allen Stern

(Just got done reading the article and I can come right to the sidebar to comment on it. I love that.) I'm glad the growth is slow. Maybe the FriendFeed team isn't, but I love hanging out here and I don't think it would be the same if it was being hyped up as much as other services. - Mitch

And now - we can see the next challenge faced by FF. The majority of FF entries have a short life - the flip of the page - unless others see the thread and "like" or comment. If the entry is missed then there is no power to the entry (and no immediate gratification for the person). Next, there are multiple entries of the same topics. On Twitter, this is partially solved by retweets - but "top" FFeeders don't really re-share other people's entries - thus "killing off the young." - LPH™ and his dog P™

Keep in mind my comments are only in regards to FriendFeed being able to "compete" with Twitter. Otherwise Twitter is not competition. FriendFeed needs to figure out who they are and who they are competing with. I have no clue based on what you guys are saying. - Jesse Stay

There are other uses for FF we for example are using it as CRM with the secret mail it work perfectly ,as well I recommended some time ago to let other sites when they register their users to make an automatic parallel user here in FF ,for example a newspaper that has his social activity can make all his users FF users ,its a small API but an important one - Johni Fisher

Twitter is popular because, honestly, most people only want to hear themselves speak, and don't care that much about what everyone else thinks. However, there will always be those of us who like reading what other people think. - Curt

agree jesse - i dont think they know who they are yet either - i'd like to see them move AWAY from twitter comparisons as it's just not a battle worth fighting at this time. it's time for ff to get some marketing staff - Allen Stern

exactly curt - it's about people thinking they are a celeb. - Allen Stern

I do not know how many people actually have the time for all this anyway, I been watching this conversation for a bit but it is past bedtime.. good night everybody :o) - David Gross

take the experience out of the browser. i think a robust desktop app would gain FF a few more super dorky users, but wouldn't help them grow at the rate facebook and twitter are. - Jim Halligan @jim

Jesse: Friendfeed will compete with Google Wave or Google Search. Not Twitter or Facebook. - Erhan Erdogan

Allen, agreed as well - so long as they want to be Twitter they need SMS. If they don't want to be Twitter they need to distinguish exactly what they are. No one knows right now. - Jesse Stay

Twitter has won their territory, FriendFeed needs to NOT be twitter, and find their "zone". - Tim Hoeck

Basically friendfeed has built an incredible communications platform that can be utilized in many different environments. The corporate market holds huge potential. White labeling friendfeed just makes sense. - Michael Fidler

And now another challenge to FF is shown in these comments. People start talking to each other - and when not noticed they either keep trying to "join" the conversation or just remove themselves from the conversation. Finally, someone who just discovers this is NOT going to be interested in reading everyone's comments - thus lowering a person's interest. - LPH™ and his dog P™

Erhan which one - those are two entirely different products right now. - Jesse Stay

Does FF have any recmmendation systems? With conversations like this I'd imagine that to be a killer opportunity - Tristan Walker from iPhone

If they want to be search, search needs to be front and center, like Google - Jesse Stay

i have to go to sleep im sorry but i still don't think sms will change that graph that thomas hawk posted. and not to harp on my idea but if they did start with the forum idea - think about how massive their real-time search index would be.... ponder that one - too many companies forget how much more is out there... it makes me very frustrated - ok be well everyone - Allen Stern

If they want to be like Google Wave, the private messaging has to be front and center, and they need to be more open - Jesse Stay

"real time" overload this thread is a prime example - Benjamin Taylor

It's just like a chat room - Benjamin Taylor

I just read Scobleizer's blog post. What's this about Facebook cloning FriendFeed? Did Facebook enhance "Like" to where I see non-friends' items on Facebook that my friends Like? Does Facebook have "Hide other items like this one" now? Last I saw, Facebook only had flimsy imitations of FriendFeed's functionality. - Bruce Lewis

except, the UI is not like a chat room... hard to follow. - Tim Hoeck

LPH, exactly right about the size. You can't have a conversation with a zillion people at once. Smaller groups are more effective, and that's why Facebook is popular, you control who you talk to... - Curt

Jesse: This data will be valuable than Google's crawled index. They must use this value. But I ve no idea which one they choose. - Erhan Erdogan

Allen there are so many more people that can post content to FriendFeed (vs the other Social Networks in the graph) once they open up SMS. Much more content will go directly to FriendFeed, and not their "competition" (if that graph is really who they're trying to compete with - I don't think it is) - Jesse Stay

But you can update ff with text messages I thought. By updating twitter and feeding twitter. By updating fb and feeding fb. By updating wordpress and feeding wordpress. I thought that is what made ff powerful. Ff's original sin was obscuring and hiding the fact that it's made of feeds. Favicons for the fed services would help that. - Matthew DeVries from fftogo

Content *can* already go from SMS to FF... through Twitter.. I don't see the point. - Tim Hoeck

LPH, Curt: isn't that exactly what Google Wave will do? Have the ability to branch off? - Jim Halligan @jim

Benjamin: It's really hard to find the "comment" link when talking like in mIRC. : ) What is the problem. A "comment" link in the last comment's right may be useful. - Erhan Erdogan

just give us a good old fashion frame so we can scroll :) - Tim Hoeck

What brought people to Twitter were the "tornado" and "earthquake" and "fire" posts. It made Twitter interesting and brought even more people to Twitter. The iPhone wasn't out then - how do you think people were posting those emergency Tweets at that time (and even now)? The media caught that and before we knew it even Oprah was talking about it. SMS is the root of what has made Twitter successful, even if the majority of users don't use it all the time. The "interesting" Tweets all come from SMS. - Jesse Stay

Perhaps every Friendfeed fan should take it upon themselves to introduce one new person to it. #Mentor - David Damore

age sex location? - Erhan Erdogan

nooooooo.... - Tim Hoeck

23 m istanbul :D HAHA good nights! ; ) - Erhan Erdogan

Bruce I think that FaceBook has other bug as well ,when you send a request to B a friend with someone even with out his approval you are getting at your wall his posts or part of them for sure - Johni Fisher

this is what i mean by taking the experience out of the browser. at least for me, chrome cannot handle this thread right now. - Jim Halligan @jim

Not being supported by developers is a big downside for friendfeed, The problem is there is little room for a ff client to add value like they do for twitter. - Alistair (alpinefolk)

Twitter growth = bots, spammers. - Mo Kargas

Facebook is confusing to me.. too much going on in their UI. Twitter is ridiculous to carry on a conversation. FF is for me. Just clean up the UI, and make things easier to manage. And word to the wise.. when I start getting "Which character from HBO's True Blood are you?" requests, I'm outta here! - Tim Hoeck

What's really interesting is that these 3 products are entirely different products that I think should be competing on entirely different turfs. The blogosphere for some reason wants them all to compete. - Jesse Stay

Forums, IRC, and Newsgroups all co-existed (and still do).. what's the difference? They all have their niche. - Tim Hoeck

I am learning about Friendfeed now, but feel Twitter has elements of Google, linkedin and real time convos, that Friendfeed does not make as easy or intuitive. But friendfeed offers full convo tracking. To me, it seems like merger mania on the horizon. Question: Who buys who? - Alan W Silberberg

FriendFeed vs. Google Wave? - Jim Halligan @jim

like Robert said in his blog, friendfeed is newer than either fb or twitter and is in similar place as when they were same age.. to me it seems like friendfeed can be like twitter when nobody comments or the page is full of tweets or it can look more like facebook when people post pictures and stories and leave comments.. It is like a mesh of facebook without the nasty apps and twitter... more... - David Gross

Frankly, I'd love to see one company own all three - I think it would make a really valuable product, and I think all 3 would still co-exist - Jesse Stay

Any "popular" alternative to Friedfeed? - People just don't get it. ( I use it ) - FranK

Ff does need a better mobile app. However there is no reason for it to compete with Twitter, they have different uses - Kim Landwehr from iPhone

This thread has me excited for the embargoed story Scoblizer dropped hints about. I think this is the typical right before big story provacative thread that robert starts, which the embargo'd announcement answers the question of. - Matthew DeVries from fftogo

Jesse, I think that sounds good, all 3 together in harmony.. and I have introduced my twitter and facebook friends to http://ff.im/1hqgl :o) #hive - David Gross

Not 100% off topic since it was mentioned can someone tell me why 8-10% of ALL posts on Techmeme are from TechCrunch? - Benjamin Taylor

Benjamin, others have their theories, but my view: TechCrunch also breaks 8-10% (or more) of all tech news stories. They're simply the first to the stories. - Jesse Stay

Benjamin: TechCrunch covers more tech industry news and gets linked to by more influential bloggers than any other site. Before TechCrunch deleted its account here, it was my #1 most "liked" FriendFeed account, too. - Robert Scoble

FranK: Facebook is the popular alternative to FriendFeed. - Robert Scoble

Robert, I think it's a different tool than FriendFeed. It's more for managing relationships. FriendFeed is more about information and aggregation. - Jesse Stay

Robert, I like it too, it's impressive based on the list of tech blogs/sites http://www.techmeme.com/lb - Benjamin Taylor

Yes Jesse, the 3 are entirely different and FF's perceived focus is realtime conversations but the service is not ready to scale (the value) yet, this conversation is an example... everyone should have the ability to create different threads in their own view and aggregate them (personalize) as preferred. But web development is not there yet, what FriendFeed needs is more developers excited. - Alberto Saavedra

Less is more. FF seems to be too much for the average non-techy user. Twitter is about as basic as you can get. Although ff is a great app, I find myself here rarely. - Tomy Thomson

Does anyone have an opinion on how FriendFeed might deal with Google Wave as a competitor? I see these two services being very similar, closer than Twitter & FF. Robert, I see how you use FF bring people from Twitter over here to discuss topics. Do you see yourself using Wave in a similar fashion, and what do you think the adoption rate will be like? - Jim Halligan @jim

Jim, I have not even had a chance to see what google wave is all about, just waiting for them to spring it on me.. - David Gross from email

Jim: I'm with David. Don't know enough yet about Wave. When they get it to me we'll check it out quickly. - Robert Scoble

wave might be a good thing, I DO use gmail.. maybe google will buy friendfeed? lol - David Gross from email

Robert, if you ever want to try it I have a test account I can let you play with any time. - Jesse Stay

Wave is more a competition with Gmail than it is FriendFeed, unless there's something they have yet to release or announce that utilizes the Wave protocol - Jesse Stay

Wave is a technology. If it's good, FriendFeed will use it, possibly better than anyone else does. - Bruce Lewis

Thanks. I believe that if they do end up competing, as much as I love FriendFeed- I think they might be in trouble because Google will be able to back the real-time search technology and they may also have a way to monetize the Waves from day one. - Jim Halligan @jim

Bruce: Very good point. - Jim Halligan @jim

Jim, I think Google would be better off just buying FriendFeed and integrating the Google technology with what FriendFeed already has. I think Paul and crew have carefully poised themselves this way. - Jesse Stay

Jesse, do you think the former googlers want to be acquired by Google? Paul B has talked about wanting to structure a company in a new, more sustainable way. Would he be happy back in Google's structure again? - Bruce Lewis

Bruce, I don't know Paul, but I'm willing to bet if the offer was right he wouldn't turn Google down. - Jesse Stay

Another option would be to sell to Microsoft or Yahoo, of course. - Jesse Stay

Jesse: Paul wouldn't sell. Doesn't need to. And if he did the offer would be so wacky and based on the numbers FriendFeed isn't going to get a wacky bid this year. - Robert Scoble

FB should pay FF to be an incubator, like Fedora and Redhat Enterprise. - Peter Warnock

I'm sticking to my guns on this one. I think they'll sell this year or next. - Jesse Stay

Anyways, back to vacation. :-) - Jesse Stay

Jesse, only 5 days to the Boston FriendFeed meetup! http://friendfeed.com/massach... - Bruce Lewis

I did see a feature in Google wave which might help here. They have a real-time grammar/spelling correction system, which was included from the start. It was included to to make the platform as comfortable to use as possible hopefully to appeal to a larger audience. Some people type slow or make grammatical mistakes; I'm the king of them. Personally, I would love anything that would help in this area. - Michael Fidler

Bruce, I'm looking forward to it! - Jesse Stay

I don't use FriendFeed as much as I probably should. And where is its RSS feed? - Sandra Large

Sandra - Check the bottom of the page. - Mitch

Jessie, I could completely see Google buying friendfeed. It seems to me that's been a possible exit stategy from the start. - Michael Fidler

Sounds like a wild prediction Michael, or are there some clues/hints that I'm oblivious to? - Mitch

Mitch, it's total conjecture on my part. It's just a theory, nothing more. I can see it as an exit strategy, but whether it was preconceived is nothing more than speculation. There isn't any bad blood between them that you know of, is there? - Michael Fidler

Curt's comment above: "Twitter is popular because, honestly, most people only want to hear themselves speak..." Good point. Of course there's a degree of that everywhere including FF, but the inherent length limit on a twitter is enough insulation for most users that, when faced with a call to debate, are comfortable with 1) Shooting out a curt, cryptic one-liner or 2) Not responding at all. The rich communication environment on FriendFeed makes not backing up what you bring to the party glaringly obvious. - Micah Wittman

Allen, your whitebox idea deserves more consideration, discussion and air time than it's currently getting. I would love to see forum software replaced or morphed by the power of the FF technology. I think one hesitation (at least for now) may be the worry of siphoning off too many staff resources to deal with the hosting/dev infrastructure + licensing deal issues that go with the territory. Regardless, we need more analysis on this, people! - Micah Wittman

I had no clue what I was signing up for when I signed up for friend feed. I thought it was just another social networking platform (e.g. same as facebook / twitter). It needs to be more obvious that friend feed can consolidate TONS of social networking tools and improve them. - duskstriker

TweetMeme up 78% - Nick Halstead

Good post with a lot of interesting observations. The one point I would push back on is the API: friendfeed has by far the best designed API - way better than facebook and twitter. The reason there are less applications on friendfeed is not because of the API but I think because they have not reached their critical mass yet. I personally think that this whole social networking/messaging... more... - Edwin Khodabakchian

Agree,Friendfeed is kind of noisy,many people like me doesn't use that as often as we used to. - Steve Chou

I think a good name could make a difference. Friendfeed, friendfood, friendfodder !!!??? - Nitin Nanivadekar

FF is doing just fine... It's a very, very powerful product as it is now. Yea it has many imperfections... So feedback is great, but also give it some time, and it will become better and better (it has been that way thus far), and will rock the world. Also, remember that slower growth may be a blessing for a product, too. - Onur Kabadayi

FriendFeed seems to be an important web application and, in hindsight, may turn out to be the ground breaker in a new class of applications. However, it is horrendously difficult to understand. Even as a reasonably technical user, the presentation of configuration information about what is input, what is output, what is connected to what, etc. is appalling. "My kingdom for a diagram!" - John W Lewis

As a developer that creates a lot of mashups etc, I disagree about the api, the problem with the api is not the api it's a case of what to do with it. The data that comes out of FF is much more complex than fb and twitter. I am working on something which should solve some of your issues and show it off. Lack of hype is also why there are not many apps. - Darren Stuart

Great article, Robert Scoble. Love your ruthless intellectual honesty in identifying some problems with a service you have heavily evangelized. It would be easy to address these issues, but I am beginning to think that FF management has a much different take on the noise problem than many of us (including Tim O'Reilly). - Sean McBride

I agree with Onur Kabadayi.. Robert says it in his post as well. Twitter's growth in the first two years was similar. Plus, given the fact that it is a more complicated tool, it will take some more time for management to get some "First Things to Do Now that you are on FriendFeed" kind of documentation, and for the users to really grasp all that can be done w/ Friendfeed and why it is better (the differentiation). Sean McBride, could you expand on "a much different take" when it comes to noise.? - John Serra

John: FF has a "much different take" on noise: some of us have been complaining quite loudly about the noise issue for over a year now, with no feedback from FF or moves from FF to address the problem. Perhaps this is a matter of individual aesthetics; perhaps Paul, Bret and the FF crew enjoy a large sprawling rambling chaotic canvas and don't see the world through the same eyes as Tim O'Reilly, Mitch Kapor, Tim Bray, etc. Twitter is growing much faster than Friendfeed because of its minimalism and brevity. - Sean McBride

Twitter is being blocked by China Government, evildoing! - Motor Industry

Exactly why I asked Sean.. I like the fact that there is noise, and I like the fact that I get to filter out what I don't want to see.. Yes, we could argue that the ability to filter should be better, or more explicit, but I believe we are still at an early stage of development for this tool.. So, yes, I believe it is only for early adapting power users (sorry for the generalization) at... more... - John Serra

FF does so much more for my work and my engagement with my professional community than twitter or FB have ever been able to. :) Thanks for the interesting post! - Allyson Lister

Friendfeed is a major player in real time search and it never sucks like Twitter( Its always down) - Michael_techie

Why? FriendFeed is a place for the more geeky type, and mostly all geeks already have a Friendfeed account. Friendfeed is for people who are in social media, who have many accounts on everything, like I do. Frienfeed isn't growing because it serves a different purpose, to connect the sites that connect us. - Zachary TG

I still feel like I am not being understood by many on the noise issue. I just clicked on my Peoplebrowsr tab and was able to scan *twenty* new mostly high-value Twitter posts from high-quality news feeds, many of which do not post directly to Friendfeed. I clicked back to my Friendfeed page, and am able to see only *two* primary posts. So: Twitter via Peoplepbrowsr usually offers a 10... more... - Sean McBride

I think FF is missing a huge opportunity to engage the Flickr community -- a large and established group of people and a community where FF could be a natural tool. 1. FF needs to allow you to import all of your Flickr contacts into FF matching up actual accounts where possible and creating an option for imaginary friends for the rest (to be replaced by actual accounts when others... more... - Thomas Hawk

Thomas - best thought of the whole damn thread - Matthew DeVries

Long-term, I think that FF can also expand in the direction of aggregating real-time sensor data like pachube (http://www.pachube.com/). As wireless smart-meters invade our homes, every one of us will have at least a few sensor data streams that can be fed to FF for commenting, analysis, mashing, etc. Making effective real-time search over that data torrent is the only thing that can... more... - Vlado Handziski

I'll second that. Brilliant idea Thomas! - Michael Fidler

Ironically, one of FriendFeed's problems is that its web experience is simply too good. Twitter's sucked (and still does), so it was the third-party developers who jumped in and as you said, are driving Twitter's growth. - Aviv

I'm not going to lie, I don't want more people to join friend feed, they are ready ruined twitter. Well, maybe not ruined, but the value is a bit polluted by the bots and many self interested people - Robert D. Fraser

Aviv, got to disagree with you about FriendFeed's web experience. A discussion like this one, with above a hundred comments, just turns "discussion" into the worst kind of flat-forum experience. It becomes impossible to find who's responding to who, because it isn't threaded (and you can't collapse responses). It's like an unthreaded Slashdot - simply unreadable. - Ian Betteridge

Ian: funny, I read every unreadable comment here. - Robert Scoble

Me too! This kind of thread is totally readable. - Jim Connolly

Ian, I agree with you on that, but other than that issue (seen most frequently at Scoble's threads, of course) you have to agree that the early adopter crowd really adores the slick UI that the FF team got us used to. Among those early adopters are also potential third-party developers who have absolutely no incentive to compete with FF on delivering better UI experience, especially... more... - Aviv

And since you mentioned flat-forum experience - that's another problem FF faces; It evolved into a forum-like experience. A real-time one, but still a forum experience. And we all know mainstream doesn't care much about message boards unless they're troubleshooting some Windows printer driver. I'm guessing that for most "normal" users, keeping up with what goes on on FF is fun for the... more... - Aviv

The deer in the headlights reaction by some as to not getting likes and comments (or to the desired degree) doesn't seem much different than case of dreamers who think moving to Hollywood or Nashville automatically means you'll get noticed. It's an opportunity. - Micah Wittman

Micah, that's not the same at all. I think that for some people, myself included, FF is just not as useful as it once was. 6 months ago I'd get some reactions to threads like http://friendfeed.com/aviv... and http://friendfeed.com/aviv.... Granted I don't have the network that... more... - Aviv

Aviv - you 're thinking/acting in single stream. Things only get burried if you have bad searches, bad lists, and bad groups. Real Time is infinitely more useful and I'm far less likely to miss things now because of the greatly improved saved search abilities and group making. - Matthew DeVries

Matthew, I'm not talking about my own management of the FF stream. That I do well. What I find troubling is that so many don't, and as a result entries go unnoticed quite often. IMHO this will be most difficult for new users to comprehend and will be the biggest contributor to them not coming back. - Aviv

I guess I'm not seeing that. Participation on my content took off hardcore since Real Time. My FFHolic numbers have been insane. And my feed is not full of what this audience would consider useful or informative content, or even remotely connected to the field that 90% of you are in. Yet I am getting satisfactory traffic and engagement. So I find it hard to believe that someone who is... more... - Matthew DeVries

Aviv, thanks for clarifying. If your network puts you in a List, problem solved - but you already knew that. So the point you made was a lot of other people aren't leveraging lists and searches. So I'm thinking out loud with you here: what's the remedy? Maybe an algorithm that automatically puts what appears to be your core network into a List, and then flags you that there's unread activity going on in that List. I'm speaking in broad terms, but what do you think? - Micah Wittman

lol Matthew. Self fulfilling prophecy, right, that's probably it. Or not: I took a look at your feed and it reminds me a lot of Digg. So I'm not at all surprised that you're seeing increased engagement. But in any case, I don't see the increased engagement you're talking about. Your content gets at best 4 Likes. I guess you don't know what I'm talking about really. - Aviv

Wow Aviv. Just go on the meta attack. Wanna talk about my mom too while you're at it? The irony of calling me Digg-ish. - Matthew DeVries

LOL - Aviv

Really, the place you should be is Building43, and from your feed it's obvious you just want a tech group, talking tech things, with tech cred. You're right Ff is not for you. - Matthew DeVries

*rolls eyes* he really did just flame my feed...... Do we even do that here? - Matthew DeVries

I'm sure you won't be around much either, as soon as FlickChart implements forums. - Aviv

o.O Cause I use FlickChart a lot? - Matthew DeVries

So excited, my first ever flame war on FF. I guess it just became useful again. Where have you been in the past 2 years Matthew? - Aviv

So that's what you're looking for? - Matthew DeVries

Notice I haven't flamed you yet. It's just you deciding you're going to kick me in the dick for no reason at all. - Matthew DeVries

Move on man. Your feed really does look like Digg, so admit it and let's move on. :) - Aviv

So that's what you want out of this? People to get into old school flame wars? - Matthew DeVries

I mean, I don't know why you suddenly decided you hated me, and felt the need to break down my feed and judge it against they beauty of yours. Sorry for what ever it is I did to you. I don't think it warranted your needless rudeness. - Matthew DeVries

Matthew, come on, are you serious? Can you not tell when someone is being sarcastic? - Aviv

That's not what you're doing. - Matthew DeVries

You two knock it off. - Robert Scoble

I'm fine if you want to mod it out Robert (though I know you don't believe in that, and I'm not going to Chris White up your joint) - Matthew DeVries

Matthew, I was just pointing out that your feed probably sees more engagement because Digg-like threads on FF bubble to the top more often than "serious" threads (actually I should say entries, because they rarely get the chance to become threads;) Scoble even says so in his post. I'm sorry if you feel that I attacked you personally, as that was far from my intention. - Aviv

The UI is my biggest gripe. Face it FF is geared towards techie users I don't know if that was the plan. I don't see how FF could bring in regular users unless they have something like Facebook apps. - sarvesh

I don't buy the API argument, it is the best of all the social networks. I developed the FriendDeck client using it, it is very very very clean for an API. As for clients, there is my FriendDeck app, it was way ahead of Tweetdeck for some features (web and desktop client with shared settings) - Paul Kinlan

Seriously, I will lead the development of a Friendfeed client if anyone wants, take my FriendDeck brand and grow it make it better. - Paul Kinlan

Jumping in a little late, but I have to say that I would be a much more active user on FF if the mobile site was functional on my BB. FF2GO just doesn't cut it since I can't change my settings or anything. I'm just not sitting at my desk or in front of a laptop all that often, but I always have my BB on me. - Matt Thompson

FF2GO rocks as far as web based things go, but Tim Hoeck is working on what is looking like a really great Moble App for friendfeed. http://friendfeed.com/andfeed There is the room for it - Matthew DeVries

Paul, the thing is, there's no need for such a client. Web experience is too good to encourage others to develop alternatives. - Aviv

Mobile app for FriendFeed: http://dev.ctor.org/f2p/ by http://friendfeed.com/nahi - Micah Wittman

Aviv: I don't buy that in the slightest, there is a lot of need, multiple columns, sub feed/list filtering, user discovery, verticals (video only feeds, picture columns etc - like amplifeeder http://paul.kinlan.me as an example), there are lots of things that a good client will do to enhance Friendfeed. - Paul Kinlan

Perhaps, but Twitter was ugly and near useless from day one, so the incentive (and need) for third-party developers was more obvious. It's also hard for a single third-party developer to enhance a service that updates its UI and functionality every other day. While the FF team is definitely doing a great job at that, it's much easier to develop on top of Twitter when you know it takes them 2 months just to charge the color of a link. - Aviv

interesting. I've avoided subscribing to you but maybe that's what I need to fully appreciate FriendFeed (my interest had been waning) :) - Paul Whitaker

@paul Nah, don't subscribe to Scoble (sorry Robert), I did for a while but it leads to information overload. Instead subscribe to a few people who do subscribe to him and you see the best bits as they 'like' and 'comment' on them. That said, this is redundant advice as you saw this post that way anyway I presume... and for me, thats the power of FF. - James Macgill

Aviv: I defiantly agree that friendfeed has an awesome service and it works on many levels better than twitter does and they are very responsive and proactive to change. The biggest thing about a desktop client is a desktop client, you would be suprised how many people's workflow require a desktop app started from the start menu (I don't personally understand it but the demand is massive) - Paul Kinlan

James: I don't mind seeing roberts posts at all, however the best bit of friendfeed for me are lists (i.e, lists of people I really follow etc), my discussions and the Best Of Day. - Paul Kinlan

Amazing to see Facebook items with 100,000 likes and 10,000 comments. Would the FF interface be at all workable with so much activity? It's already hard to find anything beyond the top layer of most popular stuff unless you spend a huge amount of time managing hand-made lists. Not scalable. I might be able to sort 1,000 people into lists by hand, but 100,000. Whoa. I need some help from... more... - Mitchell Tsai

Ahh, nothing like the insiders vs. the masses. I like comparing things to cars... Volvos might be pretty solid cars, yet do people go "OMG I sooooo want a Volvo!"? Fellow geeks, please learn the tradegy of the commons. Just cuz it's good, doesn't mean people want it. - Eric Rice

FF targets the wrong users! For some reason, I just find it hard to believe FF does not target publishers large and small in some ways, newspapers going out of business, it has very advanced feature set, however it wrongly serves the wrong audiences in many ways and should exit to target media companies, bloggers, newspapers, publishers and other groups. It's not built for the gossipy myspace crowd, it is targeted towards the wrong group adaptation in my opinion. - Jonathan Fleming

Good. The fact that everybody isn't using FF is the only reason I still use it, unlike FB and Twitter. Morons haven't taken over yet. - Lo

A mobile app for the iPhone would get me spend more time on FriendFeed - Bob Gannon

There are myriad of ways that Friendfeed can contribute to bottom lines i.e. monetisation. Smarties could be using Friendfeed for serious tribe building which is sales funnel basics, a private group for Brand Monitoring/Listening will reveal opportunities for the savvy, heck one could even use a private group as a continuity product. I could go on but Im sure you get the idea. If people can't see monetary value and other forms of currency in Friendfeed then, it might be worth a deeper look - Deano @ Byron New Media

I guess new users get invited to facebook, come to twitter and but mature users move to friendfeed. - Rohit

Friendfeed is the clear winner, in terms of who (whom!?) I'm interested in engaging with. - Hamilton Wallace

FF has many solid features, but it's not yet at critical mass to make it all work. - Rod

I love FF's features but, and I think this is the biggest problem you've hit on, the interface really needs work, it has no real connection to what your average user plays with online. The themes are pretty useless right now, what really needs to be done is moving some of the elements around. I still think that moving elements to the right of the content was a mistake and the loss of the pop-up window that was real-time in the old interface has really cut down my FF use. - Aram Zucker-Scharff

Here's an important factor some have eluded to. The FF web interface. It's one of the only web interfaces I actually go to. This and feedly are at the top. I use air apps for twitter, yammer and interact through other sites via email (only go there when I get an email.) the web interface (commenting) may need work, but it is a web interface that works. - SolidSmack

I stuck to my guns. The acquirer was wrong in this case, but I was right that FriendFeed would be acquired by someone (see my response to Bruce Lewis above, and where Robert said I was wrong). - Jesse Stay

"Paul wouldn't sell. Doesn't need to. And if he did the offer would be so wacky and based on the numbers FriendFeed isn't going to get a wacky bid this year. - Robert Scoble <--- I wish he had been right. - Rochelle

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[SteroidFeed]: Here is my new way of watching feeds on FriendFeed. I call it SteroidFeed but it is also a "Multi-Talk" style interface ... the file sits locally and allows me to view multiple topics. I've attached a copy of the simple html. Feel free to modify the html but please leave attribution and share your changes. Leave a URL if on Internet.

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Of course, the version I uploaded does not include my own entries but instead has the iPhone entry as an example. My local copy uses "from:lph" so I can see my entries and add comments quickly. (e.g., this comment is added through steroidfeed.html and not through the site. - LPH™ and his dog P™

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If Adrian Veidt had FriendFeed instead of just satellite TV, this is totally how he would have read it. - Andrew C

There is a danger, Chrome has trouble with this many connections to FF. - LPH™ and his dog P™

I borrowed it here, LPH. http://friendfeed.com/louisgr... - Louis Gray

I've changed this file a bit so that a fourth column is available, and this holds a rowspan of my own entries. This makes tracking easier. - LPH™ and his dog P™

I should state that the fourth column is an embed so that I can add comments, photos, files, etc. - That code is similar to the one on my personal blog: http://www.layneheiny.com - LPH™ and his dog P™

SteroidFeed 1.01 is now available: http://friendfeed.com/lph... - LPH™ and his dog P™

Really cool! - matiasjajaja

hey i like this! - Susan Beebe

Have fun Susan - LPH™ and his dog P™ from iPhone

Interesting use of Iframes for this, gonna play with this, really cool LPH and his Dog. Thanks! - Dan Morrill AKA Techwag

Thanks! I'm trying it out now. - Mark "DerBingle" J

Let me know Susan, Mark, and Dan. - LPH™ and his dog P™

Ah! I like. Thanks. - Christopher A Carr

You are most welcome Christopher Carr - LPH™ and his dog P™

Trying this on a 1024 x 768 resolution, 12-inch notebook - and it is fine with all four columns. - LPH™ and his dog P™

OK - so are you asking - can I span this across multiple monitors? -- because Elvis used to watch multiple t.v.s at the same time. - LPH™ and his dog P™

(Veidt's TV setup: http://skew.dailyskew.com/uploade... ) - Andrew C

that's great! - PaperDoll

Keep it comin' :) - Charlie Anzman

I have made a meme of friendfeed embeds here: http://ff.clipotech.com/ - Svartling

Svartling - yes - your setup is nice. I've gone back and forth between 3 and 4 columns. My desktop setup can handle 4 but the notebook (1024x768) can only handle 3. Therefore, http://www.steroidfeed.com is only sitting at 3 right now. I'm also missing the instructions on how to make changes for anyone not familiar with FF. - LPH™ and his dog P™

Yes I was thinking of make 3 columns but I decided to make it 4 because my web stats shows that most visitors have a resolution at 1024x768 or higher. Maybe I will change to 3 columns. Hmm.. - Svartling

Really appreciated man, one of the best things for my following attitude - Amiroo ™

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Google Chrome OS - http://vi.sualize.us/view...

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Google Has Done Bad Moves in the Past. Chrome OS is One of Them. - jungleG - http://jungleg.com/2009...

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WARNING: New AdWords Interface does not work with Firefox 3.5! Do NOT upgrade until Google fixes.

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What doesn't work? Seems fine here. - Jim Doree

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haha laughing at the little ones - Myrna

فکر کنم بچه زیر پتو خفه بشه - nasibe(نصیبه)

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You will never believe who from NASAI am sitting next to for the next 10 hours as we fly to London. Who? Check it here:

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Chief research scientist. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Anyone want to know something about Mars? You have three minutes to ask. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Dr. Tore Straume - OakleighVermont

Do Martians really talk like Marvin? - MVB (Grinch of FF)

He says we have to go to the moon first. Moon by 2020. Mars by 2030. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

what evidence is their from Mars that it once had a dense atmosphere? - Mark

"It is only 10 years!" - Robert Scoble from iPhone

i want to know the 3 biggest contributions of nasa in the last 10 years. is the US getting a return on its investment? - lew

Moon as a test-run? There's almost nothing there worth anything - KyNam Doan

KyNam: the moon will be a way station. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

What does he think of the mars biosphere guys in the arctic. Cooks, or science that Nasa actually pays attention to? - Jay Shapiro from iPhone

But his bio doesn't say anything about Mars. Says he worked on the effects of radiation exposure. Japan, not Mars. - Kirk Biglione

can Mars be terraformed? - Bob Blunk

Turn on http://www.Qik.com/scobleizer and we will try live video. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Lew - Return on investment? Knowledge! - KyNam Doan

Bummer can't do live video. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

If we can't colonize the moon, there's no way we'll be able to colonize Mars. And it'll be a lot easier to rescue a failed colony on the moon. - Victor Ganata

Ask him what's the most interesting thing he can tell us about Mars. - Bruce Lewis

Can you ask him if we can send Astronauts to Mars before Obama's first term is up, and if current technology will protect the astronauts enough from the radiation - Charbax

Bob he says that is a big job with many uncertainties. He says some don't want us to do that. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Will magnetic bubbles really be sufficient to protect explorers from radiation? - Todd Hoff

Charbox: no. Current plan is 2019 for next human mission to moon. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

I believe NASA should send Astrunauts to Mars as soon as possible. Skip the whole Moon thing and cancel ISS and the Shuttle. Priority should be a world collaboration project using Russian heavy lift rockets and going direct to Mars for $30 Billion before Obama's first term is up - Charbax

Does he use Wolfram Alpha? - Benjamin Taylor

The argument is that we are much closer to having the technology to go to Mars today then we were to going to the Moon when Kennedy did the speech in 1961 So why not focus the world space efforts on fitting the Humans to Mars mission in the relatively still recent 1988 Heavy lift Russian Energia rocket technology - Charbax

Will we use nuclear energy on Mars? - Bob Blunk

Todd: he gave me a long answer but yes but it will need a lot of power. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

I have to go. I will answer rest when I get to London. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Charbax 3 years is an unrealistic timeframe for a safe and prolonged mission to Mars - KyNam Doan

we need to find ways of creating various things - space borne farms, various stations in between Earth, moon and mars. The more humans we can ship off this planet, the greater the impact we will have upon it and the greater amount of goods we can produce to support this number of us. - alphaxion

KyNam: ok, i want to know what knowledge that has had a big impact. everything is a trade. i am not doubting it, but i think NASA has a marketing problem in that I cannot tell you the key knowledge we have gained and its impact. should we spend the next $ on space or sea exploration? and that is just one option - lew

How far ahead is NASA planning? Is anyone thinking about trying to reach any of the exoplanets? Generation ships? A little closer to home, are they sending any probes out to the Kuiper belt to study any of the new dwarf planets? Any missions to the Oort cloud? - Victor Ganata

Cool, thanks Robert. It seems like high magic to me. - Todd Hoff

Basic science is never sexy. If we based all our research targets on market value, we may never have figured out how to make fire. - Victor Ganata

You should definitely try to get a Wimbledon tennis final ticket for Sunday. It'd be really nice to see some live real-time blogging from there. And IBM has TONS of awesome new technologies they are showcasing at Wimbledon, like this http://www.youtube.com/watch... IBM Seer is the best Android application ever made, one of the most impressive mobile phone applications - Charbax

Victor nobody would invest in fire. Too risky. They would invest in a new rock that was more accurate in flight because the was just an incremental technology leap. Low risk high reward. - Todd Hoff

Robert, this is excellent thanks. I'm sure he's a bit shocked - Jay Shapiro from iPhone

KyNam Doan, Obama can announce the Mission to Mars for within his second term then. And the safety should not be the absolute priority. We are 6 billion people waiting for scientific results and there are thousands of Astronauts who would line up to go on a Mission to Mars even if it was very dangerous. - Charbax

Charbax, the thing is, if we sent a mission to Mars and it failed, would we even have any hope of attempting a second venture? - Victor Ganata

There are Astronauts that have been irradiated for years on Mir and on ISS already. So I wonder how much worse the irradiation can be for the Humans to Mars program. As long as the Astronauts can make it through the 6 months journey there, and eventually the 2.5 year journey if they have to come back. - Charbax

We should send at least 4 teams of 4 Astronauts up to Mars at the same time, to multiply the chances of success. - Charbax

Charbax, Of course I'm concerned for the lives of the astronauts, but safety refers also to the integrity of the mission itself. 6 months transit time each way + playtime is a lot of time for things to go wrong and blow billions of dollars into space. - KyNam Doan

Yeah, obviously, I don't want anyone killed, but like KyNam Doan, I'm thinking that a failed mission to the Moon would be far less costly than a failed mission to Mars. And we'll definitely learn things about colonizing planets just by going to the Moon. - Victor Ganata

The argument of the Mars Direct mission is of course it's advanced technology and we need to spend $30 Billion developing and building it, but the basic technology of building those Humans to Mars lander and return vehicles (that could also generate fuel for the return vehicles mixing Hydrogen with the Methane on Mars), those technologies are not _that_ much different then the technologies we had in the 70ies for Appollo or the technologies we have with Shuttle and the ISS - Charbax

ask him what he thinks of the Navy's SPAWAR lab finding fast neutrons in their Cold Fusion experiments. :-) - Karim

Going back to the Moon, unless we want to somehow Mine it for some type of ressource, I think would be a total waste of time! we can get 1000x more science out of going to Mars, and it is _not_ much more expensive. Sending a vehicle to Mars is not much different than the one sent to the Moon, it's just a different trajectory and 6 months instead of 3 days of travel. - Charbax

Make it a one-way flight. That should cut down on the weight for fuel and increase the amount of equipment they have to create a base on Mars. Land them at the pole so they have a chance of extracting water and oxygen from the atmosphere and with enough supplies to last years on the surface while they try and figure out how we will survive there. As unlikely the success of such a venture would be you will still get people signing up for it and you know that necessity is the mother of invention. - Sam Pullara

There are astronauts living on ISS for more than 6 months already, they eat and have a fine time up there. So why not simply put them on a trajectory to Mars and that's it. - Charbax

Yeah, but once they're out of Earth orbit, they won't be getting those shuttle visits to resupply and repair stuff. - Victor Ganata

Sam Pullara, what you can easilly do is send more empty ships up there. One other ship could have a lot of Hydrogen, it would mix with the Methane on mars to generate enough fuel to launch the Astronauts back to Earth 1.5 years after they land. You can if you want, land another ship close by with extra food and tools. You simply launch several ships at the same time. - Charbax

I'm all for taking it straight to Mars, was just skeptical about such a short time frame. The one-way trip Sam suggested may be the best bet for "success." Sans family et al + spaceskills, I'd sign up :P - KyNam Doan

Well the Mars Direct plan is essentially a one way trip, until you walk or drive over to the Earth-return vehicle that was sent before or at the same time. Also, you can send the Astronauts now, and figure out later how to send them back. In the US, there are millions of people that have to stay in small prison cells for years and years. Why can't we have a few volunteer scientists up there for at least 1.5 years and maybe more, this shouldn't take 20 years to find a solution before something is done. - Charbax

Does NASA only take flight surgeons/aerospace medicine-boarded physicians? - Victor Ganata

I think NASA should take video-bloggers and broadcast the whole thing live in HD, it'd be the Mars HD channel. Over the years of the project, just ad revenue could finance perhaps as much as half the $30 Billion Humans to Mars project cost. - Charbax

How about robotic collaboration? Why not send the robots first to build some infrastructure collect, process resources. Once we have a very high probability that there are enough resources to build and return humans the humans land in a plush, and luxurious mars pad? Basically, I am strongly in favor of Human - Mars, but dont see it as the rush, we should have some time to do it in style. - Robert Higgins

Prasoon: when he says they have to go to the moon first, he means they need to establish a base on the moon as a jumping off point for Mars. So, if your goal is Mars, you gotta go to the moon first. - Robert Scoble

It was an incredible 10 hours. We tasted wine, talked about philosophy, talked about radiation and how they are building new sensors to sense increases in radiation due to random sun activity so that people in space can seek shelter in time, talked about why humans explore (he thinks we're programmed to explore by evolution), and a bunch of other things. - Robert Scoble

All you need to explore I think is mobility + curiosity + irrationality. Those drives make for explorers. - Todd Hoff

my faovorite NASA JPL geek is my Dad http://www.nasa.gov/offices.... - Sonya

Agree that humans are hard-wired to explore, but desire to build a way-station on Mars will build as people understand that we live on an unpredictable and active planet in an active solar system with an active sun in an active galaxy. The sci-fi movies are right; we are always close to disaster of some sort. Thus, the need for shelter elsewhere. - Brenda Young

put simply, until we have colonies on other planets, our species is already dead. Just a matter of time. - alphaxion

John

Friend Feed doesn't have an "auto follow back" feature, does it? http://friendfeed.com/human3r... @tonysteward ?

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Not that I know of. But neither does Twitter, natively. - Tommy Keene

ah, you're right. - John from email

auto follow back is from satan - Tyler Gillies

LPH™ and his dog P™

[Mica] My oldest brother's 8-year old dog. P thinks he's spoiled. He has at least one bed in every room.

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http://www.akc.org/breeds... - LPH™ and his dog P™ from BuddyFeed

Aww - Tyson Key

Ozgur Gercek to Ozgur's feed, Photography as Art, Photography United, Fotograf

Amazing Photos...

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nefis kareler..hepsine bayıldım ben - Ozgur Gercek

1-3-4-13 FAVORİMMM.. - ASEL(mimoza çiçeği)...

Richard

Google Apps Go Social With Improved Contacts & A New API http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...

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Robert Scoble

Playing around with TweetMic. I am not on Twitter, I am on my iPhone! Thanks @leolaporte http://tweetmic.com/p...

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you can do the same by just recording a voice memo and sharing to share@friendfeed.com - Jesse Stay

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I wonder if that will work with all OS? - Mathew A. Koeneker

Mathew, my method? Yeah - just share any voice recording by e-mailing the file to share@friendfeed.com :-) If it's mp3 format it will even stream straight from FriendFeed. - Jesse Stay

Leo also mentioned something called Audio Boo today that is really cool, record an audio podcast from the iphone, and the sound quality is great - Stephen Pickering

Anyone know an app or a method to link the audio with a picture in the same entry? Or at least relate them together so that the audio can describe the photo. - Tony Vota from iPod

TweetMic rocks..they just pushed out an update too. - George Dearing from BuddyFeed

Thanks Jesse. I will see if the Palm OS buggers it up. - Mathew A. Koeneker

Shevonne

Upgraded to Firefox 3.5. I will have to say that this is the first time in a long time that Firefox opened up in a matter of seconds. I wonder if it will work the same way on my Mac.

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hmm.. that makes me wanna try firefox again. - Dee S.

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Im shocked that it's so fast. This is with the 1,000 add-ons I have - Shevonne

It does. I am very glad with the improvements. - Matt Ruiz

I just upgraded mine. wow! it is so fast! - Dee S.

Are you using a PC or Mac? I wonder how it is on the Mac cause it's always been painfully slow on there. - Shevonne

I'm on a PC. It was very slow for me for a while now that I switched to Chrome and been using it as my default browser for months. Now, I might just switch back to FF. - Dee S.

I think that Chrome and maybe Safari (when I get home and upgrade FF) have competition. I think that FF might even be able to gain some ground because it has add-ons that you can't get on Chrome or Safari. - Shevonne

It's working sweet for me too (Mac). I'm hoping to find out it doesn't use as much memory as before, then I'll gladly switch back from Safari 4. - Andrew Trinh

I switched to Chrome ages ago simply because of the speed issue. It will be interesting to try out. - Adrian Scicluna

The only reason I still use Firefox is because of the (unbelievably awesome) Firebug extension. Otherwise, I'm all Chrome/Safari now. - Brett Kelly

@Brett Have you upgraded yet? - Shevonne

@Andrew Sweet! I can't wait to try it out on my Mac - Shevonne

Yup.. Firefox being this fast will definitely get ahead of Chrome mainly cause of the add-ons. God how I miss Feedly! - Dee S.

The only thing that is missing is the start page that Chrome, Safari, and Opera have that shows your most-visited sites. I do find that handy. - Shevonne

I just installed it on my Vista laptop and it seems just as horribly slow as 3.0.11. Chrome, OTOH, is absurdly fast. - Joey Gibson

@Joey Maybe it's Vista ;) haha - Shevonne

I really missed the Awesome Bar and the option to save tabs when quitting and reopen recently closed tabs/windows. It's got no tearaway tab animation though and there's no way to merge windows together. - Andrew Trinh

You can save tabs by going to File > Save session & exit - tiffany

I was talking about missing them because I've been in Safari 4 since its launch and it lacked those features. - Andrew Trinh from iPhone

@Shevonne, yeah, Vista's high levels of suck rub off on anything touching it. - Joey Gibson

Ars Technica

Publisher: Google book settlement flawed, but essential - http://arstechnica.com/web...

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Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

Dear Google, I never *EVER* want to subscribe to an RSS feed using my Google homepage. Stop making me choose!

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AMEN. - Tamar Weinberg

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Better GReader for firefox has an option that allows you to bypass that screen - chrisofspades

If you don't use Firefox (like me), this bookmarklet may help http://dekstop.de/weblog... - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

hmm, is that what "Smart Subscribe" is, chrisofspades? I had no idea what that did. - Tamar Weinberg

Oh no - it's "Auto Add to Reader" - Tamar Weinberg

yup its the "Auto Add to Reader". but its a little clunky as the selection screen still shows for a brief moment. - chrisofspades

Good tips here to bypass - Bill Kinney from iPod

Allegedly, the bookmarklet I just posted was created by Google. It shows you all available feeds and shows you a preview in GReader once you click. - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

You're right. I'm betting Google knows how to set a preference cookie. - Chris Baskind

surely after you keep picking reader and ignoring igoogle, they would know what you like lol - Rob Sellen :o)

Bwana ☠

VirtualBox 3.0 Released - http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki...

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"Sun today released VirtualBox 3.0.0, a major update introducing symmetric multiprocessing (SMP) in virtual machines as well as much improved 3D support." - Tim Hoeck

Robert Scoble

Sync is (almost) the new backup - http://www.nerdblog.com/2009...

June 29 from Google Reader - Comment - Like - Share

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What about Drobo? It doesn't solve the onsite/offsite problem, but it solves just about everything else. - Glenn Karisch

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P2P Sync is an interesting design that I feel many may consider from the home/consumer side if advertised properly. Sites like cucku.com seem to be an interesting alternative to the cloud for people that may have more trust with Family members or Friends over a datacenter. - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

There is also http://wua.la they are doing p2p storage with the option of earning more as you share more space. - John Cooper

Very much agree with that statement. I use Evernote for all my documents and notes (except creative app files) - Scott Gould

That's not exactly p2p though. The article implies that the functionality envisioned would be sync between one's own personal computer. Wuala is more cloud than p2p. - Tommy Keene

I use Mesh, and it works great. You can work with the files locally, not over the web at all. The sync is seamless. This guy was trying to use the browser interface, which is only for access from a remote location. - Alex Scrivener

Of course Mesh doesn't work under Linux, so it's a non-starter for me. - Tommy Keene

@Tommy, they do have Mac and mobile, though. If they did add Linux it would be perfect. - Alex Scrivener

Agreed. And it takes a lot for a Linux guy to agree that any MS product could be perfect. Here's hoping they roll it out. - Tommy Keene

Look at git: it's, in fact, a robust and efficient peer-to-peer backup program, with increments, conflict resolution, etc already in place. Too bad it's a version control system, not really a general-purpose end-user backup program. Who's the first to take it and make a user-friendly, low-maintenance solution? - 9000

I tried to put 500,000 files into git (also looked at the "gitbackup" wrapper for file attributes) and it used 2GB of RAM before crashing. Didn't work for me at scale. - Michael Herf

Maybe somebody can explain Mesh to me, but I gave it another shot, and it seems broken. I added "My Pictures" (which only has maybe 5000 files, not my main repository), and connected another machine to it. Nothing at all happened. When I made a new folder, I think that replicated (?), but when I created a subfolder or file inside that, it didn't work. Some stuff showed up in the log, but not on the other side. No DSL traffic, either. - Michael Herf

Gerald Weber

Top 5 Websites To Listen To CDs Before Buying - http://www.makeuseof.com/tag...

June 30 from Digg - Comment - Like - Share

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Good link! Thanks! - Robyn Flach

Scott of Two Countries to Scott's feed, Photography Tips, Tricks, and Know-How, Photography United

How to Photograph Fireworks Displays - http://digital-photography-school.com/how-to-...

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"I’ve had many emails from readers asking how to photograph fireworks displays, quite a few of whom have expressed concern that they might just be too hard to really photograph. My response is always the same - ‘give it a go - you might be surprised at what you end up with’." - Scott of Two Countries from Bookmarklet

Rae Whitlock

Alright, now that Firefox 3.5 has officially been released, Google needs to get on it and update Gears.

June 30 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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Joe Silence is not Santa

Giving up my iPod for a Walkman - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2...

June 29 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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"When the Sony Walkman was launched, 30 years ago this week, it started a revolution in portable music. But how does it compare with its digital successors? The Magazine invited 13-year-old Scott Campbell to swap his iPod for a Walkman for a week." - Joe Silence is not Santa from Bookmarklet

Damn good writing for 13. - Todd Hoff

FriendFeed Feedback: Charlie Anzman

Suggestion: Make lists on FF easier with Drag and Drop?

June 29 - Comment - Like - Share

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Hi Charlie, this is a good suggestion, but would take some work to implement. We'll definitely add it to our list of things to look into. Thanks as always! - Ana

This would be cool but yes can see that would be complicated to implement. A more customisable sidebar would be most welcome though, such as the ability to move each sidebar up/down and a "Favourites" sidebar that allows us to choose our favourites from our lists, groups, users and saved searches. - Kol Tregaskes

Robert Scoble

The anti-community list - http://scobleizer.com/2009...

June 29 from Scobleizer - Comment - Like - Share

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Word of mouth always seems to be the key to these things. - Steve Farnworth

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I wish people paid more attention to the substance rather than the numbers. If FriendFeed or any of these services did that, all of social media would be the better for it. - Michelle

Also, someone can have 50k followers who don't pay attention, or 2k followers who follow every word. That never gets taken into account. - Michelle

I totally agree with Robert about that list being useless. When I was new to friendfeed, I followed a number of people that were suggested...then later unfollowed them because they were just dumping and not participating. If I want all their twitter activity I can follow them on twitter. Don't need to do it on here. And I can subscribe to their blog feed in an RSS reader. Don't have to... more... - April Russo (app103)

I like following people that make comments or add content that I like. - Robert Freeze

a suggested user list for want of a better title is useful to the new user coming to the game. Trying to pick people to follow without some guide would result in confusion and the loss of many potential users. not everyone comes here as a friend of an existing user. - Gilbert Harding from BuddyFeed

I just started using FriendFeed, although I've had my account for a while now, and I don't think recommended users are that useless. When I started using FF, I saw a lot of stuff that the active, recommended users were liking and that help me find other people who were posting quality stuff. - Cassidy

@Cassidy: When I joined, that list was just a bunch of people that were dumping their twitter & blog feeds and not liking or commenting on anything. And it was pointless for me to comment on any of their stuff because they never come here to read it. - April Russo (app103)

I very much like how my passionately-versed "what the hell is this?" comment drove such discussion :D - Tamar Weinberg

btw, WeFollow was very smartly done because you have to physically add yourself there by sending a tweet. Not all people want to do that. - Tamar Weinberg

rackspace is very much down right now, too bad scoble didnt just post the content here ;) - sean percival

I'm not too concerned about FriendFeed's SUL. I think most new people will come here because they know someone here, and will find new people through their friends' networks. - Bruce Lewis

@April Russo: I guess I got super lucky and followed the right people! I hear what you're saying... - Cassidy

As a relatively new active user on ff - I completely agree that the ff list sends that message. But I've also noticed that if you spend a bit of time it's easy to overcome that and find the people that ff has organically been building. And there appear to be several that have an audience here that don't anywhere else. can't really say that about twitter too much anymore... - Bill Kinney

Sean, my slicehost is up - what are you seeing down? We had issues earlier but I blame it on database issues. - Jesse Stay

When I started with FriendFeed, I followed some people that I liked already on Twitter. That led me to other people who post interesting information. I concentrate on the people who post directly here versus the ones that just let their Tweets flow over to FF. I can, however, see that for some beginners a list of suggested users could be helpful. At least until they sort out who they like following, and those people on the list that are not useful or interesting to them. - Bonnie Foster

ALLTOP Has a similar list. Perhaps the overall list is better but Regionally it seems like you need to be a friend of a friend to qualify. My two cents. - Kelly Mitchell

I like to stumble over people to follow, that way I follow them for the stuff they put up. I started with Scoble, Gillmor and a couple of others. Moved on from there to follow a couple of others. I now have a nice list of people I enjoy following and I havent unfollowed anyone yet. Has taken me a good while to get here, but I'm happy with my list :-) - Rasmus Lauridsen

What Robert said. - Steven Perez

I didn't even know about this list or sight. Such a FF n00b, I am - Chris Duffy

Even little nuances in the process can make a difference...does FF auto-select (ie, check the checkboxes) when it puts up the first list for new users? (I don't remember...I guess I could create a throwaway account and check). It's the whole "opt-in" vs. "opt-out" issue, and can make a big difference in how SULs end up affecting things. I'd hope that FF makes the suggestions, but leaves the boxes unchecked. (Robert's in good shape either way...who wouldn't want to subscribe to the Hulk?! *grin*) - Ken Kennedy

OK - so most of us agree the popularity driven list is bad. What would be a good idea to help neophytes? I just started http://XeeSM.com today a social site manager and we will soon have a similar challenge. Any suggestions? - Axel Schultze

How about allowing tagging of items and just giving everyone a short interest quiz when they sign up and pick people that post that kind of content. Those that don't participate won't have their stuff tagged and won't be offered as a SUL. Blip.fm already does this with music and automatically assigns you a few people to follow based on your tastes in music. The same can be done with all kinds of content. - April Russo (app103)

Kevin Pedraja to Kevin's feed, DSLR, Photography United, Photography as Art

Do you use real filters on your lenses (beyond UV or protective glass)? Or do you achieve filter effects entirely through post-processing?

June 29 - Comment - Like - Share

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I've played around with a circular polarizer and a neutral density filter, but I can't say I've mastered the technique. - Kevin Pedraja

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I think a Polarizer is an almost necessary addition to the camera bag. - Spencer

All post. May require bracketing shots. - Andrew Smith

UV is always on all lenses. CPL is used sometimes, depending on the weather. I've got an ND4 for one of my lenses which I've always planned to use for one of those long-exposure, forest stream shots but I've not been to a forest with a stream yet. Everything else is in post. - Mark H

Whatever saves me time in the real world, so I can spend less time post-processing. - Nick Humphries

I'd agree with the Polarizer as a nice addition to any camera bag. They work wonders outdoors in the sun and produce amazing color and reflections on water (not to mention take down a ton of the hot reflections if you have to shoot in the afternoon). - Scott

It's awfully difficult to replicate certain filters -- such as a polarizer with software. I also use neutral density filters when I want to create very long exposures or very shallow depth of field. You cannot replicate a ND filter in post, you have to be using them during exposure. That said, I never worry about color balancing filters any longer. I shoot RAW, so if the color shifts, it is a simple chore to restore the color in post processing. - TomBonner

David Cook to David's feed, Appetite

The Best New Feature in Windows 7: The Taskbar - http://www.makeuseof.com/tag...

June 24 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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Well the "pins" at least. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

I prefer to have my taskbar relatively clean with only running apps. In order to manage both with similar functionality I installed rocketdock, which gives me both on my desktop (which is also clean). - jcunwired

The best new feature of Win7 should be S e c u r i t y - not eyecandy, but I say this now since Windows 1.0 - Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic

Louis Gray

FriendFeed Adds File Sharing - http://www.centernetworks.com/friendf...

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Mark Traphagen

Just coached a friend thru his first FriendFeed experience via Skype. Feeling very Robert Scoblish.

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Thanks for the help Mark! - Fred Harrell

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It was worth it just to finally hear the voice of someone whose online "friendship" I've highly valued. - Mark Traphagen

Oooh. Great new adjective. "Scoblish." Isn't English great! - Tommy Keene

Well, he calls himself the Scobelizer afer all. - Mark Traphagen

Though of another great new adjective. "Traphtastic!" - Tommy Keene

Rhymes with "craptastic"....and has about the same meaning LOL - Mark Traphagen

Kol Tregaskes to Kol's feed, Live Reviews, Television

Just started watching season 3 of Lost. Anyone watching this, going to watch it soon or in the middle of watching it?

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I'm not good at reviews but will try my best to post something about each episode over the days/weeks here. Warning spoilers will be here if you've not see the series. - Kol Tregaskes

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Im bang up to date with it all. I download it from the states each week :) - Simon Wicks

Episode 1: so the 'others' have a little town and have been there all this time. - Kol Tregaskes

season 3? Season 5 is about to end. I love BitTorrent. I own the first 3 seasons on DVD though. Lost is worth it. - Rahul Das

I'm up to date on Season 5. Loving it! - Martin Bryant

Episode 3: OK, a little lost (excuse the pun), what happened previously about not pressing the button in the hatch? - Kol Tregaskes

You'll find out about the not pressing the button thing later. - Admiral Anika

Episode 3: OK, not it's gone weird (well weirder) why is John tripping out? - Kol Tregaskes

I'm nearing the end of it. Brilliant season :) - Dominic Dale

Anika, OK, it's been so long since I've seen season 2. - Kol Tregaskes

Yeah, when I say later, I mean like Seaons 4 or maybe even 5. :) - Admiral Anika

Episode 3: Confused, John just suddenly wants to trip out. - Kol Tregaskes

Anika, OK. :-D - Kol Tregaskes

Episode 3: Here comes the polar bear! - Kol Tregaskes

Season Three is where the fans are separated from the occasional viewers.I love all of them, and season three is no exception!. - Michael Fidler

LOL I just watched this episode a couple of weeks ago and yeah, it was pretty trippy. It doesn't make sense until you see subsequent episodes and even then, not so much. - Admiral Anika

Anika, I think I understand but a little vague though. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

season three is where the delusional are separated from the rational. it's one of the worst seasons of any television show made ever and is the point where the series goes completely off the rails after the mixed effort that was season 2. - Richard Lawler

I completely disagree, Richard. Season 3 was weird, yes, but it was pivotal. Without Season 3, the subsequent seasons would make no sense. I know when I was watching it, I was more annoyed at all the new questions and storylines it was opening, but now it makes so much more sense. - Admiral Anika

We're in the middle of Season 2, so far we're enjoying it. - Heather Solos

Heather, be careful here then, spoilers are abound on this thread (hint don't read my next comment...). - Kol Tregaskes

Episode 4: Ow two islands!. OK, that's it for today, 4 episodes 1 DVD. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

the subsequent seasons don't make any sense anyway. Season 3 gets you prepared for the idea that the writers have no idea where the show is going and are just jerking you around until the finale with love triangles, so there's that. - Richard Lawler

Yeah I'm a long way behind. I've been waiting to watch these with my brother for eons but given up and will go through season 3 and 4 (probably 1 disc per day :-)). - Kol Tregaskes

No worries, the kids haven't let me sleep the last two nights, my short term memory is shot to hell right now. - Heather Solos

I'm starting season 3 too. Well I've been starting season 3 for 2 years, but I'll get to it! - Mike Lewis

Ah, Mike. Well if you get the time you're free to join in this 'live review' thread. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Episode 5: Just started and now Echo is tripping out. - Kol Tregaskes

If remember correctly season 3 was a little slow, hope you catch up quickly to current events... - Amit Morson

Episode 5: Just saw black ghost-like dust fly past Echo, hmmm. - Kol Tregaskes

Episode 5: BIG black blob now. - Kol Tregaskes

I never did understand the premise for LOST. - Roberto Bonini

Episode 7: That Jules lady is not very nice! :-( - Kol Tregaskes

Episode 7: Correction, Jules is evil. - Kol Tregaskes

Episode 8: Now we have the guy from Neighbours... and he's mean too, tsch. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Episode 8: OK, Lost has gone officially weird. :-( - Kol Tregaskes

and it only gets weirder! (can't wait for tonight!!) - Nathalie, Dreamer of FF

Nathalie, tonight? - Kol Tregaskes

Wednesday is Lost night at our house! I've been watching since the beginning. hubby started on season 2 or 3. - Nathalie, Dreamer of FF

Ah, I see. Enjoy. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Episode 10: OK, fired this up again and Hugo has just found a car. - Kol Tregaskes

Episode 10: It's the return of the mad French lady. - Kol Tregaskes

Episode 11: They found eye-patch man, no weird-outs for a while... good. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Episode 11: He left the cat! :-( - Kol Tregaskes

Episode 12: OK so Claire's Dad is Jack's Dad! - Kol Tregaskes

i am 'lostie' fanatic lol we are just at the end of season 5, season 6 which will start next year is the very last season *sob* it has for me been the best ever program i have ever watched! - Tatty Gibson

Tatty, I didn't know season 6 was the last but it will be nice to finally get to the bottom of all this. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Gonna watch it in comming weaks. - امیر؟

Amir, cool. Worth watching. - Kol Tregaskes

Episode 12: Do we think that Sawyer was a little upset they came back? He was sort of the leader of the pack but was shortly lived now Jack is back as leader. Just a thought. His expression was quite mixed when they came back on the beach again, wasn't it? - Kol Tregaskes

Episode 17: I just can't get over many how people lie in this show. Really bad! :-( - Kol Tregaskes

Episode 18: What made Juliette so bad? I don't think it's been explained. She was clearly a good person before coming to the island. - Kol Tregaskes

Episode 21: This is the problem with Heroes, with Lost it keeps you wanting to watch more + you get emotionally attached with characters - I was almost choked about Charlie this episode. I get nothing like this from Heroes. With Lost you can feel the build up to the end of the series, there is definite purpose. Heroes is almost a chore to watch and drags on way too much in places. Let's hope Lost carries on as it does and that Heroes improves (a lot) from the 5th series. - Kol Tregaskes

Episode 23: Wow, it's getting serious now. Body counting rising! - Kol Tregaskes

Episode 23: Very interesting ending, so they *do* get off the island, just not yet. - Kol Tregaskes

Im watching the last 2 eps of season 5 now :) - Simon Wicks

Simon, is that on DVD? I think I might just have to get that. It's getting a little addictive, I might have to start on the 4th now, hehe. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Nope, they aired in the US last night. I download it in HD. Ummmmmmm HD :) Last of the show untill next year now! Arghhh - Simon Wicks

Ah. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Yup, naughty i know, but SD just doesnt cut it since i got a HDTV, and i dont have Sky HD, so this is the only way :) - Simon Wicks

this season was best season of lost . today season 5 finished - i'm waiting for season 6 - CRASH3R

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