You know what I really like about friendfeed (and similar spaces)? It has connected me to people that I wouldn't have ordinarily met. It has connected me to parts of the world that I would not have otherwise seen. It has given me a voice where I didn't have one. It has allowed me to explore existences that I would otherwise not have experiences.
It has allowed me to learn things that I wouldn't even have otherwise thought about. It has shown me that there is more to this universe than my small little space in it. It has connected me to all of you and for that I am thankful.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Insofar as I have ever squashed speech or lamented the fact that people discuss views or ideas that I do not like or don't believe in, I am sorry for that, because I have come to realize that those actions were very damaging to this community and to the greater world.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
thanks for not deleting your account after you connected to everyone.
- Mike Nencetti
I want people to continue to post about their tragedies and their triumphs, the cars that I will never drive, the conditions of living that I will never experience, the animals that I will never get to see otherwise, the experiences that I will never have. It is only through this level of discourse that I will ever know anything outside of my cocoon.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I wouldn't do this for just anyone, but for Glen I'm posting a topless pic.
- Bruce Lewis
And yes, I realize that this is how I use friendfeed and how you use friendfeed is entirely up to you, but we need to respect how we all use the service and how we all view the world, even if it doesn't make sense to us or seems wrong. Without mutual respect there can be no mutual understanding, in my opinion.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
And with all the social media spaces now available, this is still the one where I read and see things I wouldn't have ever picked up. Otherwise, I'm with Glen in 3D. Boobies are nice.
- Ciaoenrico
I like getting to interact with people on friendfeed/Buzz/etc who I'll probably never meet in person. Even from those whom I don't agree with, I still gain something from listening to their reasons.
- DGentry
4. Movable sidebar and a new "Favourites" sidebar that you can anything from your friends lists, groups or saved searches.
- Kol Tregaskes
Watchlist, to drag and drop threads you want to keep an eye on.
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
Roberto, yeah I think I mentioned a 'star' system a long time ago, that we should star a thread we were interested in and have it in our "starred" list to keep an eye on. The 'like' is similar but is used for other things too, like to share to your subscribers and simple to mark that you like the post.
- Kol Tregaskes
Dogan, yep that's what I meant about. I'd like to have an option to at least turn them on/off.
- Kol Tregaskes
drag&drop for threads and wiping feature for lamers
- ArMyZ e S.elene
Matthew, nothing happened today. FF selling to FB is why we probably won't see any additional feature releases.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
Add and remove groups from a post after it is made.
- Alex Scrivener
Bryan, FF already has some filtering, what specific filters did you mean?
- Kol Tregaskes
Alex, some spam features would be useful but the community itself has done a great job with issuing spam reports on the FF-Spam Report group.
- Kol Tregaskes
Chris, yes! I wish FF, GReader, FB and (somehow) Twitter comments/replies were all synced somewhere.
- Kol Tregaskes
Better features for facilitating/managing subscriptions & lists, currently they're so ponderous and times consuming it's so frustrating you just give up ~ no wonder people leave on account of the noise
- The Real sofarsoShawn
Frankly I'd love it if they brought back the ability to sort my river by posting type - all my friends' YouTube videos, or all my friends' tweets, etc.
- Ciaoenrico
When you send a comment to Twitter with a pic uploaded on your twitter stream it not saying "[pic]" it's superfluous, takes characters, and annoying
- The Real sofarsoShawn
The ability to add or delete a pic/video to a comment after it's been posted
- The Real sofarsoShawn
Ability to undo the acquisition by Facebook.
- AJ Kohn
I love the idea behind "virtual friends", but this should be made more automatic: when you add a twitter/Facebook acc it should show you which of your friends are on FriendFeed and if they aren't, should add them as virtual friends. This way you could have a single place for all the updates.
- George Moga
ability to merge post for a group admin, some big group suffers from double posting (maybe before posting FF can look at the link and propose something like digg)
- FullSite
Kol, I misspoke when I said filtering. What I would love is the ability to have some feeds go to more than one of my email addresses. I use the imaginary friend tool quite a bit, so that certain twitter feeds hit my email address. I'd love to be able to prioritize it by sending my most important feeds to my main email, and the secondaries to my gmail account.
- Bryan R. Adams
AJ, hehe, yeah that would be a great feature. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
George, yep. FF could possibly be used as Twitter client then.
- Kol Tregaskes
Shawn, yep editing posts could do with a major update.
- Kol Tregaskes
Friendfeed for dummies tutorial clips on,basics,cool stuff,..., . ps1-13 Guide to Friendfeed Etiquette: suggested (but not necessarily correct or expected) do and don'ts of posting, commenting, liking.
- Thomas Page
Notifications if user accept or request subscription requests.
- Kol Tregaskes
something to prevent posts/threads from suddenly disappear while reading if it's in a streaming place & something to insert a thread into "My discussions" even if I don't add a comment or like it
- Kobayashi
always have Hide available. It doesn't seem to be available in Groups.
- Laura Norvig
I didn't read the whole list, but I want to be able to block Groups. I keep getting porn showing up in my custom saved searches and it's originating from porn-related groups. Since it's being dumped into the room via RSS (and not a individual user posting it), I can't block it in any way. If I could block the entire group and never see it again, that would be wonderful.
- Rochelle
1. @username replies 2. statistics (how often do I read/like/hide a certain person) 3. serendipity feature: instead of showing me all the post my "friends" "likes", filter and sort them with some kind of likelihood (how many of my friends liked it, how often have I hidden something similar...)
- Dr. Emme Ci
add a date field to advanced search. that would be huge. as time goes by, I find myself wanting it more and more.
- Laura Norvig
Laura, yes there is a lot of options that could be added to the search criteria.
- Kol Tregaskes
I'd like to be able to associate my FOAF profiles, and find new FriendFeed users based on my FOAF network...
- Egon Willighagen
better support for feeds: show the content, not just the link in the title. It is frustrating to be forced to follow a link and then come back to ff to be able to comment about it. Btw, this would result in a much better integration with google reader, right now when I shere a video or an img in greader only a link appers in ff, instead of the video as I'd rather.
- Dr. Emme Ci
Prevent digg article from showing in ff if you've also commented on the digg.com site. I always end up deleting the original article entry on my ff because it shows up again with the comment anyway.
- J. J. Zepfanman.com
Group Twitter conversations into comments instead of pulling it as a new item (in case one of the party doesn’t reply through FF). Also for replying to comment.
- Natsuki Seika
Rational, Twitter usage is flattening, people are finally figuring out that Twitter sucks for having a conversation. People though Friendfeed was hard to use, try having to install several software 'crutches' to be able to use Twitter productively without even half the functionality as Freindfeed.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Either this is tounge in cheek or Robert really hasn't gotten over our breakup... Robert, I hope we can still be friends but we have to move on and grow... FriendFeed will always love you, but we need some 'us' time to find out who 'we' are... *cues The Bodygaurd soundtrack*... *walks out into the rain, adjusts collar, walks off down the road*... *fade to black, credits*
- Johnny
from iPhone
Comment bait. Even Robert can't generate interest these days.
- Russellreno
I agree. Friendfeed is for those who need more from a 2d interface. Until there spatial interface is there, Friendfeed is on top of the pyramid (especially when one knows how to use it best).
- Kirill Bolgarov
Akiva: lol, Kol: that article only looks at unique visitors, and doesn't consider user hours.
- Mike Chelen
Lets hope so ... Miss some of my old peeps :)
- Charlie Anzman
I'm surprised Robert made this statement but I find it very interesting in the change of view and wonder what has changed his mind or if he knows more info.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
The unpredictably erratic Scobot is at it again...
- Ciro Villa
Well, after glancing at his Twitter timeline, he's just making a bunch of joke predictions. I'd like to think that there's some truth in this one though...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Sniffs... Do you smell that? It's what we used to call a troll. Robert is getting dangerously close to becoming irrelevent.
- Jason Williams
from iPhone
Robert is waiting until 2010 to respond to this thread. :)
- Louis Gray
Scoble - I disagree ONLY because I think that FriendFeed activity is already migrating to Facebook via deeper integration over there but I'm wiling to hear you out (as are the other 40+ people commenting here). Do share why you think this is true?
- Aaron Strout
I wrote this tweet for Twitter, not for FriendFeed. But nice to see you all! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Jason: I'm definitely irrelevant if the people calling me irrelevant don't even have 1,000 subscribers. Sigh.
- Robert Scoble
I actually see FriendFeed growing instead of slowing and there will also be new enhancements. A testing ground for Facebook. Just to expand, Robert's still the man!
- amarquart
Akiva wins the internets with this mathematical formula for spotting comment bait.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
You think we're fighting, I think we're finally talking! -all in one page
- Tim Jones
Funny, when I write, I write for everyone, everywhere
- Johnny
I'm finding that FriendFeed is fiendishly sticky. On Twitter lists do help, they make twitter better and all but but but-but I think a lot of users are getting more sophisticated in their web usage faster than Twitter can evolve their tech. Louis Grey recently postulated that even if there is no interaction on FriendFeed it makes complete sense to stay riding this horse. That got me...
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- JSLeFanu
Dude..... I totally hope you're right, but not too sure about this! LOL Explain your rationale please :)
- Susan Beebe
i agree with the original prediction. by the way, what's a resurgence? is it different than insurgents? :-)
- Morgan
Morgan - the insurgents never left ... ;-p
- Robyn Hawk
I'll stay one faithful user, for those "outside the US" stats. Still feature plenty, still enjoyable. Still effective. Thanks for rallying the troops again Robert. Bring the hopes, and forget the ropes! 8)
- Zu from AOD
I like this whole thread. ++Akiva, Johnny, JSLeFanu, Jason Heubel, Mike Chelen . . . Robert, Twitter may have geeks and famous people, but you can actually do things here. Oh, wait - I'm not here. I'm in a widget on a blog in someone's Posterous whom I don't even know, that I'm searching through to find FF peeps to subscribe to over here. Now, that's just mind-blowing!
- Auntie Buttinsky Botts
Thanks everybody again for all your well wishes and mazel tovs. Wedding went well and everybody had a great time. Cassie and I are a little hung over from the after party and the after after party. We didn't drink much during the wedding.
OH OH & WE CAN ALL MAKE WIDGETS!!! Next, k this sounds crazy, it'll be like over air-waves I'll call it radio, maybe even hmmm TV
- The Real sofarsoShawn
Friendfeed’s Paul Buchheit has just confirmed to me that the next ‘big’ new feature coming to Friendfeed, will be the last. This comes a day after Buchheit issued a confusing statement about the future of the platform he co-founded. Here’s what Buchheit just told me, in full:
- Jim Connolly
from Bookmarklet
Mark: Not sure how it would change things for Paul and the guys - they just sold out to Facebook and have more money than they will ever need. (and they deserve every fricking penny BTW!!!)
- Jim Connolly
A sign of how quiet things are now on Friendfeed? I've had 5 (FIVE) click-throughs from friendfeed to my blog after posting this here. 3 months ago it would have been massively more. Really sad watching it die slowly like this.
- Jim Connolly
Alan: Not sure - but when a post has twice as many 'likes' as clicks it means something. That same post's been read over 400 times so far - so there's some interest out there.
- Jim Connolly
Mark: not true. Advertising for a million users wouldn't bring in that much on a forum-based site. Average CPM is about $3 per 1,000 page views. That wouldn't make anyone rich. The way Paul will become really rich is to help make Facebook a public company (they are well on their way). That means pouring all his skills into making Facebook a better service for its 300 million users (and growing).
- Robert Scoble
Alan: And there's no longer a debate - the co-founder confirmed no new development.
- Jim Connolly
It's also worth pointing out how much respect I now have for Paul, for being good enough to let us know the future plans - well, lack of future plans. That took balls and he deserves some credit.
- Jim Connolly
Feedback please: Do I delete my account now the platform's no longer being developed?
- Jim Connolly
So Jim, this is why you were pestering him so much in the thread? So that you could get a catchy headline for your blog? He said - "Jim, there may be a few new things, but as I said, the team is mainly working on fb platform and openness, so it's unlikely that there will be any big new features of ff (except maybe one that I've been thinking about for a while...). I don't see that as a...
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- Kenton
When platforms cease being invested in, as you know, they slowly grind to a halt. Is it better to invest the time I spend here on a platform that's growing - rather than shrinking?
- Jim Connolly
Kenton: I don't need a catchy headline for a blog, thats only updated a couple of times a week and run as a pastime. The feedback you gave about deleting accounts screwing up comments makes sense. When the co-founder says that "it's unlikely that there will be any big new features of ff" I believe him.
- Jim Connolly
I guess it depends on why you're investing your time. If it is in the community, then I don't see why you can't still contribute. If you're using it for increasing your personal brand, business, blog traffic, etc then you are probably right to invest your time on sites that see more traffic and growth.
- Kenton
Kenton is right, you're title is wrong, fact. He did not say NO new features.
- Keith Bennett
There's really nothing cool about all this cryptic communication Paul is giving us. All it's doing is riling us up and causing us to be unnecessarily speculative. We made this site be worth 50m, so we therefore don't deserve to be strung along like this.
- Brad Williamson
Keith: Did you interpret "it's unlikely that there will be any big new features of ff" as meaning there WILL be more big new features?
- Jim Connolly
"Thank you" - Seems the route is to keep the account alive, rather then mess up content for other users by deleting it. Appreciate the heads-up.
- Jim Connolly
Gotta go. Just subscribed to everyone who's commented here - so you can DM me. Really appreciate the feedback.
- Jim Connolly
Jim: No I didn't, but I also didn't post an article saying there will be NONE! Fact is, we don't know what they are up to, what they plan to do and that's what causes the speculation. You're adding fuel to the fire and I think you should change the title, that's all. Personally, I'm in the wait and see what happens camp. I'm happy with the service as is and I'm sure what emerges from the FB integration will be interesting, but until I know what that is, I'm happy to continue with what I have.
- Keith Bennett
ICQ still exists...Winamp still exists...AOL still exists (but why?)
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Another FriendFeed self prophecy post. Cast doubt about its future so users begin leaving, then it will HAVE to close because of lack of users! You should be doing the opposite and encouraging folks to join...its users that keep a service afloat..
- technogran
Shoot a pumpkin. Thursday 4 pm at Patorinos pumpkin farm which is where I shot this video using the new 12mail iPhone app. Bring - http://12seconds.tv/channel...
Benjamin: The juices in Belize are amazing. They make fresh juices at road stands, and fill used 1 liter Sprite/Coke bottles. Water is amazing. Sharks and rays swam through our legs. So used to tourists, you can touch them. Budget place for water stuff (as is the Red Sea - around Egypt & Sinai Peninsula). Egypt was 10 Euro for an 8-hr boat ride (including lunch & snorkel gear). Forget how much Belize was...
- Mitchell Tsai
I had such a GREAT time in Belize a few years back! What a great trip. Have a most excellent time Benjamin! Be sure to check out "Dready's" on Ambergris Caye and stay away from the kids who feed chickens to 25' crocs! :D
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Joel: What are your suggestions for Benjamin?
- Mitchell Tsai
We are only going to be there for 1 day (part of a cruise)
- Benjamin Golub
Joel: How does Altun-Ha compare to Caracol? I went to Caracol a few years ago. Met a guy from Houston who grew up there and never knew it was a Maya ruin until it appeared on the news ~5-8 yrs ago - "Hey, that's my hometown."
- Mitchell Tsai
Thanks Joel! I'll check out Altun-ha next time I'm in Belize also. Have you visited Tikal or any of the Mayan sites in Guatemala? I was thinking about visiting Tikal last visit, but did the closer Caracol instead. When I visited Caracol, it had only been excavated for 2-3 years, so it was new..
- Mitchell Tsai
I am having trouble watching the show, server must be getting hammered.
- Jordan Patterson
You can subscribe it via itunes too Jordan http://bit.ly/iq9rA Thanks for posting Paul. This is a great series on Services. So useful.
- Mac64
I've tried installing some services from macosxautomation.com but I can't seem to find the website popup action anywhere in automator. :(
- Paul Grav
I tried looking for the "website popup" automator function and could not find it. This could be great but first I need to find the function.
- Steve Sill
It took me a while to find it too. Its bundled with the Mobile Me workflows in the Internet portion of the downloads page. That site is just awful to navigate. Here's the link tho http://www.macosxautomation.com/service...
- Mac64
Thanks Mac64, thought I was going crazy trying to find it
- Simon Tracey
I had a good deal of trouble getting the Website Popup action to install on my MacBook. For some reason, unbeknown to me, both /Library/Automator and /Library/Services were owned by _unknown. I changed the ownership of those 2 folders over to my user account and attempted to re-install the Internet Services package. Finally, I was able to use the Website Popup action in automator.
- Paul Grav
Until Microsoft releases a service pack that lets you upgrade 32-bit XP to 64-bit XP, or provides an actual upgrade path to Vista or Windows 7 that isn't just backing up your files, wiping your hard drive, installing, and restoring your files, I don't want to hear another word about Snow Leopard being nothing more than a service pack.
Jemm, the majority of arguments for Snow Leopard being a service pack are coming from Windows people. Linux people don't seem to care one way or the other.
- Akiva
@Akiva: Could be... Pointless argument, anyway (no matter who started it). Too tired to follow those Win7 vs. SL -wars as they all are the same.
- Jemm
Of course not, but I've been reading a lot of posts and tweets about preordering and not enough about what the upgrade actually does
- Rodfather
I grabbed SL for the 7gb of space back (always handy when dealing with video), improved multithreading (good for video production) and exchange support (which turns out to be 2007 only, no effort to broach 2003 at all).
- alphaxion
Which is why you should always have your documents and important files on a separate partition from the OS. Works on Win and Linux.
- Kevin L
and yet, the steps you just described (back up files - wipe hdd - install - restore files) was exactly my experience on the "upgrade" to SL...*shrug* I figure the same experience will be had on my PC Win 7 experience, I'm used to it
- Kamala Whitaker
Rodfather, there's a ton of information out there on Snow Leopard. You'd have to go out of your way to have not learned something about it. On the other hand, it's $29 (and, in some cases, $9). Even if you're not 100% certain what benefits you may get out of it, it certainly won't hurt, either. Especially at that price.
- Akiva
I'd like to see how many people know what Snow Leopard provides vs. what Windows 7 provides. Well, other than Windows 7 'isn't Vista'. Apparently, that's the only selling point some people need.
- Akiva
I know that keeping your home directory on a separate partition works well in Linux and OS X because that's actually where system preferences get stored, but does this work in Windows, since a reformat will blow away the registry?
- Victor Ganata
I upgraded to SL in place (And on a PPC machine, I've gone from Panther to Tiger to Leopard without reformatting.) It's way more convenient than doing a clean install.
- Victor Ganata
With the free Easy Transfer -wizard (dl or comes with Vista/7) it's easy to store and restore all the custom settings if one wants to do a clean upgrade. I don't mind setting preferences manually after upgrade and some programs (like Visual Studio) allow exporting them.
- Jemm
@victor your "home directory" in windows is the folder with your username in docs and settings (or user in the post XP world). Simply copying that across to your new machine will keep all your old settings.. the problem only becomes the apps you've installed onto the new system. It's how roaming profiles has worked since win2k - it stores a copy on the network that is synced to and from your system on log on/log off.
- alphaxion
My experience with upgrades in windows points the dirty finger at either the registry getting wiped by the windows installer or by crappy 3rd party software that has been badly developed. I've always viewed upgrading in windows as an adventure in time wasting.
- alphaxion
I've been fine with in-place upgrades on both Linux and OS X. In Windows a clean install might well be necessary, but in other OSes, it feels like voodoo superstition. Of course, this is not to say that I've never had to reformat and reinstall, but usually it's because I did something that broke the system in an irrevocable fashion. (Like rm -rf * in the wrong directory)
- Victor Ganata
@alphaxion profiles have worked that way since at least NT 3.51 (may 1995). roaming profiles are something entirely different
- mjc
@victor if you only install Linux apps provided by your Linux distro, it can be fine. It's rather easy to get into a situation where RPM-based distros crap themselves, and only moderately more difficult to get into situations where dpkg-based distros do the same thing.
- mjc
I guess most average users just get a new OS when buying a new computer or let someone else do it. A geek that upgrades his/hers OS should be able enough to do either upgrade or clean install, whichever he/she prefers.
- Jemm
I detest having to reset all my preferences. So in Windows, as long as you backup your home directory, your app settings will transfer?
- Victor Ganata
Jemm, it still seems like a lot more work than just doing an in-place upgrade, but I guess I'm lazy like that :) (Although, yes, I did do a backup anyway.)
- Victor Ganata
@mjc I was giving an example how the transport of one profile to another system is used within the windows world, didn't think my comment failed to get that across.
- alphaxion