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Email is saved! Inbox2 rocks. Here is why: - http://ourdoings.com/roberts...
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Waseem Sadiq, CTO (left) and Khuram Hussain are showing me how you can send emails and messages to Twitter, Facebook, and others. It is in private beta now, will launch later this year. http://www.inbox2.com Does all sorts of useful stuff like forwarding, copying, etc. "It is really hard to build a good email client," says Sadiq. They nailed it, must try it.
- Robert Scoble
Can we get an invite code? :)
- Aaron Myers
Yeah Robert, ask them to let you post some invite codes to FriendFeed!
- Ben Kessler
Invite Code please! ?
- Jigar Mehta
Get us all hyped up and no codes? C'mon Robert, score some codes for us.
- Jim Graham
Robert, score a code, for a Pie ala mode...:)
- Fred Tabsharani
Codes, or it didn't happen!
- David Lloyd
Actually just requested an invite code last week. Would love one if you have any.
- Kevin Whalen
Invite code :) please
- Susan Beebe
Well now we're all interested. So invite codes would be awesome. Please.
- Vlad Bobleanta
sounds awesome - yes, codes!
- Karma Martell
another request for some codes...
- Paul
Very cool. I can imagine this being something to tie me over until Google Wave is released. I presume the transition to Google Wave from Inbox2 will be a ease?
- Vinko
me want codes now, give um me code
- David Lloyd
Yep yep, give us some codes please.
- Bhavishya Kanjhan
I think I can see you from here :)
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
Just go to their site, they will send you the codes in an email.
- Elizabeth Good
sometime next year maybe!
- David Lloyd
How long does it take for them to send the invite?
- Kevin Whalen
from email
Robert, thx for the plug! Everybody that wants an invite just leave your email address on the website (www.inbox2.com), will take a few weeks before you get one tho, due to the infrastructure we're setting up to serve u all :-)
- Waseem Sadiq
'a few weeks'!! we'll have all forgotten about it by then! -- you've got our interest now (it's about 20 people, how much infrastructure would be required?)
- Paul
Hehe that is true, but if I let you guys in now I might end up spoiling the zen like email experience once its good enough. I'll tell you what, if you are willing to try out the product and tell us how we can improve it, or blog about it, Í will get you an invite (waseem at inbox2 dot com)
- Waseem Sadiq
we are btw also on twitter @inbox2 @waseemsadiq and our blog http://blog.inbox2.com (shameless self promotion)
- Waseem Sadiq
Cool! Email sent.
- Kevin Whalen
from email
Eh, looks like an AIR app.
- Akiva Moskovitz
hmm, me thinks: Soon, a Scoblizer recommendation will be as mighty as being listed in Oprah's book club list...
- t i n y m
What a tease! I have already requested for an invite and now waiting...thanks Robert.
- Rahul Mirakhur
hmm... over a month and no response... oh well
- Kevin Whalen
Yeah, ditto -- and after they asked us to email them so they could add us to the beta list...
- Paul
You guys allready seen this? http://www.inbox2.com/account...
- Waseem Sadiq
Robert, was this post sent directly from your phone? How do you do that?
- Skyler Call
Skyler, http://ourdoings.com/ourdoin...
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Hey, it'd be nice if you invite me to try Inbox2. The 'Request Invite' feature is not working.
- Dnyanesh
Being an entrepreneur is like wakeboarding. Not sure how, but that seemed like a brilliant analogy when I thought of it earlier today.
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I'd say because it is terribly easy to catch an edge then crash and burn.
- Jeffrey Stewart
Europe no longer matters to lead position in mobile - http://scobleizer.com/2009...
Matteo Scotuzzi, CantorJF, Gordon Saunders and 27 other people liked this
Interesting write up. This is news to me.
- David Damore
very interesting writeup - perhaps it's the same issue as with twitter - bloggers/writers/journalists only flock to palm and iphone and ignore the rest - same with twitter. is nokia in the same bag as microsoft currently?
- Allen Stern
Allen: I think Microsoft is in a better position and has more time. Why? Because people will continue to buy Windows and Office for the forseeable future and Microsoft can continue to fund cell phone development until they get it right. Nokia does not have that advantage.
- Robert Scoble
well nokia will continue to have the cheap phone segment until (or if) apple/palm etc get into that space - what about motorola? i use a samsung phone on sprint btw
- Allen Stern
What about Asia, Robert ? How is the Asia mobile tech developers compared to European ones ?
- Clarence Chiang
Allen: yes, but that space is going to be unprofitable and uninteresting and will soon disappear around the world as people realize what they are missing with more full featured phones.
- Robert Scoble
Clarence: Android and Microsoft are keeping Asia in the game. Nokia is too stuck on Symbian.
- Robert Scoble
Or, more accurately, Nokia is too stuck on the current Symbian. If I were at Nokia and Symbian, I'd be starting over, or at least starting with Android, forking it, and doing something remarkable with it.
- Robert Scoble
So basically Nokia needs to "Pull a Pre"
- Clarence Chiang
Clarence: yes.
- Robert Scoble
Clarence: the problem is that Palm already pulled a Pre which took the leadership position away from Europe and got Nokia kicked off the mobile leader's table. Nokia now must fight its way back onto that table and that's not going to be easy.
- Robert Scoble
part of the issue is that whatever nokia does now, it's going to be compared to the iphone. similar with bing and google. i've said all along that if you are going up against the big players, you need to be much better, not just a little better. changing perception and behavior is very hard. i faced this for a decade with toilet paper :)
- Allen Stern
Robert: You would have more of an understanding on how long it would take for Nokia to turn things around (i.e. take Android and do something remarkable with it). Can we expect to see Nokia fight its way back to the round table in 1 or 2, even as long as 5 years?
- Jim Halligan @jim
The interesting news from Nokia that's gotten my attention lately is their agreement with Intel to start using Medfield chips in their next gen mobile devices (see: http://money.cnn.com/2009.... That's projecting out quite a long way though - at least into the latter part of 2011.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Jim: the question then is does Nokia have five years? I don't think so. They are already three years behind. It will be interesting to see what I learn later today at Nokia Research in Cambridge.
- Robert Scoble
Nokia cornering the low cost phone market == Microsoft cornering the OS/Office suite market. Having a big cash cow can slowdown innovation in other areas.
- Clarence Chiang
Clarence: yup, true. It's sad to watch, though. I actually liked coming to Europe to see innovative devices. Now I just say "meh" when I see the latest devices and go back to talking to the developers building cool stuff for iPhones and Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
I think it will be interesting to see what MS will do to get developers excited in the next few years. No one is building anything on Symbian, and it's laughable to see what's in the Ovi store. I saw a "recommended" app today for 'Sunset Cheetah Wallpaper'. I'd consider that a huge FAIL. The developers are an enormous part of this market, and I think Nokia missed that from the beginning.
- Jim Halligan @jim
But we are missing the point. Nokia is just a dialling&sms'ing-machine; iPhone is a personal mobile web services kit, or something better. : )
- Erhan
I'm thinking India at first, but mostly sparsly parts of Asia would be 2 watch 4 mobile. Russia would be an interesting 1 2 watch 4 mobile. I could go into the whole blog entry into that, but don't have the brain juice at this owly hour!
- polou/indigo_bow
It's going to be an interesting temptation for Nokia to just focus on the low end in the developing markets (Asia, Africa esp) where the smartphone just won't penetrate. There's still a ton of money to be made in those markets. My guess is that it would take 18 months to get a Pre-like refresh for Nokia done, but within the corporate bureaucracy of Nokia (the same bureaucracy the felt the N97 could compete at the top levels) there still may not be the realization of how screwed they are.
- Beau Giles
You've got to remember that the majority of people, anywhere in the world, just aren't tech savvy. Sure SF might be full of people that use high-end smartphones, and they're slowly gaining traction here (mainly due to the iPhone and Blackberry), but I text my friends, I Twitter to engage with readers and techie people. Twitter has, what, 20 million or so users worldwide(?)m and there's like a billion mobile users.
- Steve Farnworth
I appreciate it all connects together, but the truth is people need simplicity in their devices and feel their cost effective. The Savvies want everything, but the majority want cheap services. If operators didn't lock up their markets and lock-down phones things would be better I suppose. But in Europe it's hard to get fair priced Euro roaming, data or contracts that don't emphasize...
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- Justin Howard
All game changing brands you mentioned developed a completely new mobile OS. For an existing vendor like Nokia or MS such a change needs far more time. I agree that Nokia and MS should jump on the web platform and specially on the user experience and usability train. Nokia did a start with Nokia WRT - did you know that new Nokia devices are using WebKIT? A sign on the horizon? Dont know. Maybe your statement is a bit too early - but yes, they definitely need to catch up.
- bishoph
Very interesting analysis, however you've missed an important part of why Europeans have hit the texting hard :- Price! Texting has all but become costless for most european mobile users. Most of the operators have moved to a model where you either have unlimited texting or a very large number for cheap. The arrival of the iPhone has changed things though, as more and more operators are...
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- Thomas V. Fischer
Very interesting post on a very important subject; there is much to say about this. The main point, Robert, is that you are right, but only from an early adopter's perspective. The iPhone is like the Macintosh of smart phones, but the "early majority" value a variety of other characteristics to which Apple have never attached enough importance for that market, notably "interoperability".
- John W Lewis
John: over and over in my career I have heard this argument and it almost always turns out to be wrong. Why? Early adopters usually do a good job of dragging others into their worlds.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Of course, I'd like to point out that pretty much every smart phone including the iphone relies upon a very important bit of European tech... ARM ;) Also, I have to raise a good point that texting will not go away and it's useful to have in addition to web access. Why should I have to waste time jumping thru authentication hoops to submit a message to a site or an email that a person...
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- alphaxion
you are missing several significant pieces of picture on helicopter level, most probably due to american hype after fruitty-phone industry :) and that's good - it will give us precious time to finalize both plan B and plan C, while you think europeans are self-confident idiots who stuck in *texting* :) please continue your "Iphone and Palm über alles" song - you are doing right... I mean right as we need it ;)
- A.T.
Yes, early adopters develop patterns of usage and behaviour which diffuse to the (early and late) majority and everyone moves forward. But, the products which appeal to each group differ. Each successive group requires the technology to be buried deeper, more concerns to be removed and more support to be available. When I buy products from my local Apple Store, as a business customer,...
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- John W Lewis
A.T. I hope you being inside Nokia, can change it for the better. Remember, I told you Nokia browser is #!!$ about a year ago. It still is. It is also one of the reasons, why "flagship N97" was first giggled at, and now is openly laughed at. Having said that, I just bought Symbian device from Samsung. :) cause I care less about visual effects, and more about multitasking and huge...
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- Павел Романовский
Robert the problem here in Italy is that you have no flat internet at an affordable price (like ATT in the US); so using the web is too expensive (ant thus we are keeping the old texting habits)
- Mevio
@ Steve Farnworth I believe we need 2 distinguish more categories of tech savviness. Why because in developed countries or even between countries tech savviness are defined differently too. I actually have friends and relatives living in different corners of the world 2 know how technologies r being utilized. Texting in Africa and India (there r other countries too) r popular. In Japan, using texting, video viewing, Internet browsing, purchasing r popular. In Canada, texting r a way to communicate.
- polou/indigo_bow
In the grand scheme of things 'mobile phone' Europe and the US are small markets. Manufacturers are looking to ship millions of devices, but if those devices don't work or have features that don't work in the majority of markets there will be no market for them. Look at the UAE, and most of Africa. No point in having an iPhone there, you can't use it to it's full potential, and mobile...
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- Gilbert Harding
You are right - on the hardware/software front. The market is dominated by US, Canadian and Far eastern manufacturers and equipment designers and Nokia is stuck in the low cost and 'boring' standard business phone market (non-smartphone).However Europe is now leading in the operator market, with low tariffs for Internet data particularly in the UK - how about £7 ($10)a month for near unlimited phone data, or £15($25) per month for 3G tethering, or PAYG deals of £2 ($3) per day unlimited?
- Ian D. Nock
And with regards to the devices... I see a lot of iPhones, but I see a lot more 'Blackberry' like smartphones, although this is spread between all the manufacturers, with Blackberry themselves at the top, followed by a smattering of Windows Mobile based devices and some (but not a lot) of the E63/E71 devices. Europe is dead from hardware, but has now moved on to deep penetration of services.
- Ian D. Nock
Finally people start noticing - the tech media world (and that includes the social media circle) is so focused in it's little closed bubble it doesn't realize that most of the world does not care about the effects, bells and whistles that gets the insiders so excited. Most people buy mobiles like I do - especially in the developing world which is where mobile growth and innovation is...
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- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Also re text on the Tube, the Tube does not offer underground service and what you get is intermittent services or low signal, conditions under which SMS works better than voice and data... have a look at what people use above ground :-)
- Ian D. Nock
Are you saying that Europe is behind because the "cool new phones" (palm, apple, RIM) are from non-European countries? Or because we use SMS and MMS while you never had the network to do so? Now there are the devices to explore data networks on mobiles, but those devices are available both in USA and in Europe, with the advantage to Europe that have lots of HDSPA coverage, and in average better coverage than USA. Remember that it was we, Europeans, who frowned upon an iphone that had no 3G?
- Marcos Marado
from fftogo
The loss of leadership in web & better application enabled phones is mostly not due to device manufacturers of Europe but mobile operators. Mobile operators see web as a threat rather than an opportunity. They keep their mobile network as a closed garden and do not want to let free web services leak thru these walls, since they want to charge for everything. Web is much different than...
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- Kaan Bingol
From my observations Nokia is not only making market share with low end phones, but a large amount of business people are buying the E71 and Nokia has put the price up since I got mine in late 08. As for Apple until China Unicom actually launch (the new launch date is Feb 2010) the iPhone is too late there are numerous 3rd party copies and HTC has brought out numerous touch phones before and after the iPhone was launched.
- Damian Holmes
Robert: The early adopters and techies pull the non-techies through when prices drop. We've not seen a smartphone that is cheap enough to buy and put on a SIM-only £15pcm contract or pay as you go over here, so they're just not needed. Also, we are all involved in open-social-networking on here. The majority of people I know and text only have a Facebook which they only let their friends see. Even people I know with iPhones use texting more than social networking apps.
- Steve Farnworth
Kaan: I don't see that much on "Operators liking walled gardens", what I see is "texting does it and is almost free", against the "a data plan costs 7.50€/month for 100Mb on my mobile". Most tech savvies I know of, with exception of those who get their phone bills payed by their employees, don't don't use data on mobile because it is "too expensive". Actually, I think Samsung's idea of...
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- Marcos Marado
from fftogo
@Marcos I'd also point out that it wasn't until the 3g iPhone finally came out that europeans started to buy the iPhone, before that it was just the apple faithful and a few that didn't care too much about net speed that queued for it. I distinctly remember seeing the footage of the launch and there was a total paucity of lines. The original iPhone had a bigger impact in the us.
- alphaxion
from iPhone
@Scobleizer and the Building43 crew, I would love a how to section on the blog listing how to integrate what you have in your site.
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For instance, a tutorial on how to insert the Friend Feed windows on the Building43 comunity43 page.
- Robert Freeze
Perhaps also info on using Wordpress child themes; what I assume you are using with Thematic. Just some ideas...
- Robert Freeze
Robert, I have made two presentations that show you how to do this step-by-step (on an earlier FriendFeed version, but it is done almost in the same way): http://jeroendemiranda.wordpress.com/ : last two posts
- Jeroen De Miranda
Thanks Jeroen - I will take a look at it. I think it would be a good addition also to have it as part of Building43.com
- Robert Freeze
Jeroen - good information - What the folks at Building43 have done is a little more than the widget though - they have the feed real-time with the comment box. It's not as simple as plugging in the ready made widget code; it's also not the personal feed it is the group.
- Robert Freeze
I am interested in this as well @Scobleizer I hope this is something that you all can share and is not a "trade" secret because I am just getting a site together and would like to incorporate something similar to what you all have going on at Building43
- Nathan McClain
Robert, good point, thanks! I did include a live feed into a blog post recently - http://www.jeroendemiranda.com/friendf... - but not a complete room! Would be interested to learn how-to!
- Jeroen De Miranda
Good suggestion Mr. Freeze :)
- Jason Cronkhite
from Alert Thingy
Yes, this would be good to know.
- Andrew Eglinton
Just been reading the comments here - some great ideas!
- Jim Connolly
We are definitely going to do this and are expecting to open source the code as well.
- Robert Scoble
Cool, thanks Robert, and thanks for your efforts with Building43.
- Robert Freeze
In the meantime I have a simple friendfeed embedded version on my blog Robert (Freeze) if you need the javascript let me know
- Mark Essel
Mark Essel - I would love to have the code you used to get the building43 Friend Feed group on your site and what I would need to change to make it work for any group. Thanks - you can email me at robertfreeze@gmail.com
- Robert Freeze
We plan on doing just that - and including all of the code we use. Give us some time - we're still young :)
- Rob La Gesse
Thanks Mark for sending me the code. It works great, I plugged it on to my blog in place of the feed widget I was using before. Now I have a few other sites to plug it into.
- Robert Freeze
Mark Essel: Is it possible to make the code available for more folks? We are building out a new website for the San Francisco chapter of the American Marketing Association and would love to add this functionality to the site. My email: markevans99@gmail.com Thanks!
- Mark Evans
I am so keen on getting this code http://friendfeed.com/buildin... but was trying to be patient @RobFreeze any chance you could email it byronnewmedia@gmail.com Cheers Dean.
- Deano @ Byron New Media
Mark and Dean here is the code as I received it (hopefully this works with the line breaks): drag a text widget to a sidebar and the script call (thank Paul Buchheit and team for this support): <iframe src="http://friendfeed.com/robfree..." frameborder="0" height="800" width="275" style="border:1px solid #aaa"></iframe> <iframe src="http://friendfeed.com/buildin..." frameborder="0" height="800" width="275" style="border:1px solid #aaa"></iframe>
- Robert Freeze
Mark and Dean: I'll email it to you also since friend feed broke it up a bit and skewed the formating.
- Robert Freeze
Thanks again, Rob. It's looking good except I can't seem to expand the width of the frame, i.e., width="275". When changed to, say, 500 it doesn't change. Any ideas? Context: dropping the code into a single page on WP.
- Mark Evans
Mark, I changed the width to 470 and it worked fine for me (http://robertfreeze.com) I am not sure why it did not work for you - did you perhaps accidentally delete a " or some other character when changing the 275 to 500? Thats the kind of mistake I would make...
- Robert Freeze
Sorry I was late in getting back to you guys, thanks Robert Freeze for passing the code sample. Should definitely have this in a how to box on the site (@scobleizer).
- Mark Essel
No problem Mark - thank you for dishing it out in the first place.
- Robert Freeze
Robert, thanks for sharing the code; it works on my weblog too! www.jeroendemiranda.com (right side)
- Jeroen De Miranda
Robert - Check this out -> http://ff.im/3OV3X
- andy brudtkuhl
Great Idea Andy. Similar in purpose to pulling the comments from friend feed to a blog.
- Robert Freeze
Robert: So I was able to adjust the width of the frame when placing the code within a text widget, but not when inserting it into the body of a WordPress page. Which is what I need to figure out. Hmmm. It's such a great feature to have in a blog, hope I can figure it out.
- Mark Evans
I just tried the same and yes it did not size correctly - I am not much of a code guru - hopefully someone knows what needs to be changed.... anyone?
- Robert Freeze
This is the code we are trying to make work on a Wordpress page:
- Robert Freeze
<iframe src="http://friendfeed.com/buildin..." frameborder="0" height="800" width="275" style="border:1px solid #aaa"></iframe>
- Robert Freeze
Rob: Thanks for trying it out and posting the question.
- Mark Evans
Chiming in late, but here's a good post on how to use a WordPress child theme: http://themeshaper.com/wordpre... -- let me know if you have any specific questions about how we did this on building43
- Michelle McGinnis
I also posted the code we used for building43's FriendFeed embed here: http://www.building43.com/web-too...
- Michelle McGinnis
here is my example of using this type of embedding: http://www.jeroendemiranda.com/categor...
- Jeroen De Miranda
The new economics of entrepreneurship - http://www.building43.com/blogs...
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One of the economic professors at school was saying that today the individual has as much access to the best talent world wide as a company does, Guy basically said the same thing. Anyone not believe that this is the best thing to happen lately?
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
paidContent.org - Are Google And The White House Getting Too Cozy? - washingtonpost.com - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...
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Since the start of the year, two senior Google (NSDQ: GOOG) executives have joined the Obama administration?and CEO Eric Schmidt has been appointed to the president's advisory board on science and technology. Concerned in part over the company's growing influence, two consumer groups are publicly opposing the appointment of a third Google executive to the White House. In a letter to the president dated Wednesday, Consumer Watchdog and the Center for Digital Democracy call for Obama not to move forward with the appointment of Google public policy chief Andrew McLaughlin as the nation's deputy chief technology officer.
- Leo Laporte
Concerned as in: Google becomes the Offical Governmet Search Engine and secretly drops all listing of oposition web sites?
- Robert Hafer
I'd rather see Google execs in the White House than others in the tech sector that I'm sure want the positions, but three? Even if everything's being played fairly, this still smells fishy.
- Chris Spiller
We added a 1-click login for Twitter users, so now it's easy for all your friends to try http://friendfeed.com (via http://friendfeed.com/friendf...)
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Just keeps getting better.
- mrsha
it's now Aug 24 .go friendfeed!
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
"We?!!?" Are you a FriendFeed employee? Inquiring minds want to, um, be set at ease?
- Steve "Daddy do it!" Lacy
The neverending question. ;) The mouseover makes it fairly clear who said that.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Yeah, I realize now it's essentially a re-share from Paul B. :)
- Steve "Daddy do it!" Lacy
It's great to see continual improvements here. The FF crew is rockin'!
- Jim Bergman
Where is the area where I can add a FF button to my site? I want to add a FF button to my company site and I can't find the blessed thing.
- shira
Shira: try this http://friendfeed.com/about... hope this helps
- Peter du Toit (S.Africa)
Leather Donut: Here's the link you need. http://friendfeed.com/friends...
- Sharon McPherson
Free "Google Me" business cards to promo Google Profiles and iPrint, going fast. http://blogs.zdnet.com/Google...
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That's pretty sweet Denise - Just got mine ordered.
- Chris Heath
I ordered mine, but theyd make a whole lot more sense if Googling my name actually revealed my Google profile. Does your Google profile show up in a search for your name?
- Leo Laporte
The Google profiles show up in a special section at the bottom of the page. But a search for "Eric Geller" only reveals a result related to me on the second page; I believe it's my Twitter. Still, these business cards are pretty cool. And you can't beat free, right?
- Eric Geller
The profiles page says that I'm eligible, but I don't show when I search. Interestingly enough, my fluffy new Friendfeed page pushes into the first page - usually it's all 'Andy Bold Font at ....' :-) Spooky as well - I added my Flickr page to my profile, and the Google came back with a list of many, many, web 2.0 type sites that I forgot that I'd signed up for. :-o
- Andy Bold
Just ordered mine also. http://www.google.com/profile...
- Justin Rains
What Andy Bold said goes for me as well.
- Helen Sventitsky
Just placed my order. This is going to be interesting.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
@leolaporte My Google profile *does* show up in my search results, and did instantly after I made it public.
- Denise Howell
try that with a name like matt johnson!
- MattJhsn
I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who thinks Scobleizer looks like Philip Seymour Hoffman - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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lol :D
- Christopher Harris
:)
- Damond Nollan
It's time to approach someone in Hollywood with a script.
- Rob Fahrni
they seem clones :-|
- Daniele Di Gregorio
Post-Oprah Twitter seems kinda slow. Anybody else seeing that?
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Yup. status.twitter.com reporting the same - http://status.twitter.com/post...
- Atul Arora
yup been slow all day
- Kashif Khan
Yep, Mr. and Mrs. Kutcher are killing it :)
- Alexis Bellido
Today it's been slow.
- Colin
yup
- xero
"We are working to correct this problem." = We are hanging on to the "oh shit" handles.
- Chris Wallace
Twitter has been really slow all day. If it's 'cause of Oprah and Kutcher, can't they play somewhere else?
- Lorraine Ball
Oprah and Kutcher should hire some folks to set up a custom version of Jaiku for them and all their famous friends.
- EricaJoy
Apparently 1.5M new users signed on to twitter after Oprah signed on according to Ryan Block of Endgadget http://twitter.com/ryanblo...
- Atul Arora
Super slow
- Gustavo Gomez
slow and I've seen the failwhale twice in the past 10 minutes. hmm...
- Mario Sundar
have delays / timeouts since weeks, down here in TX. Looking for alternative....
- andreas
More like grind-to-a-halt on the web interface tonight
- Charlie Anzman
Oprah and Ashton broke twitter... see, this is why we can't have nice things.
- Greg Morgan
preditction: Twitter will sell to Google only after Putin, Hu Jintao and Chavez sign on and bring the rest of the world =)
- Kirill Bolgarov
It's all the numpties tweeting 'herebeforeoprah'.
- innesm
If Twitter is Netscape, who is Microsoft?
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Google.
- Robert Scoble
Facebook?
- Jeremy Brooks
yeap ! Google !
- Rocky
Google
- Trad Robinson
IBM?
- Steven (optionshiftk)
still Microsoft?
- Matsis
Facebook
- Louis Simoneau
AOL?
- Charles Fenwick
If we're talking about the web browser space as the metaphor basis, then we're looking for an established behemoth who is second to market. So for microblogging it could be Google, or Microsoft. But if we're talking about search then the metaphor doesn't hold because Netscape wasn't trying to overpower Microsoft's browser.
- Kevin Fox
Geocities
- Johnny Worthington
Kevin, Scoble knows I think it's Google cause we talked on the phone about this today. I think Microsoft lost its ego when Gates left the building. They'll do fine without another bout with the DOJ. Google however won't go gracefully, and Twitter is leaving too many openings for them not to take a shot at them. Question is do they know how to do an Embrace and Extend? I think they do if they listen to Vic G. Joe Beda probably has a clue too. But then Facebook has the old Firefox team, they're really smart.
- Dave Winer
But I think for Facebook to produce a Twitter, they'd confuse the hell out of their users, and they have so many more users than Twitter, they can't really afford to do that. Where Google starts off with 0 users in this space. They can do whatever they want without disrupting any of their users.
- Dave Winer
And don't forget Charles Simonyi is a space cadet now. Literally! :-)
- Dave Winer
If Google is really concentrating on Android, Latitude and other location-based stuff, then maybe it doesn't need to be a Microsoft-style market-dominating 700 tonne gorilla if it can monetize those services via advertising. Just in the same way that the TV networks made tonnes of money in their day without any one company dominating the marketplace. What's the point in 90% market share if you're not making a profit from it?
- James
But Dave, Facebook already is Twitter-like. What do people do on Twitter? They update their status, they post links to stuff they read, they post links to vids and music they like (or don't), they have conversations. Gasp! That sounds just like FB. Sure, there's all this other shit you can do on FB, but that's cuz it has a broader view than "what are you doing right now and say it in 140 characters." So if Twitter is Netscape, FB is its MS.
- Dread Pirate PJ
And if I may add... who will acquire MagPie - twitter or Google? http://twitter.com/davewin...
- Ankush Narula
But then if Microsoft is Google - who is Google?
- Nicholas James
Nicholas, excellent question. If history repeats, we won't know for a while. Twitter's challenge is to escape the mediocrity of being a tech wunderkind, and mature quickly enough to be excellent as Google was when they came on the scene.
- Dave Winer
SkypeBook
- Bob DeAmbra
facebook, which ironically microsoft has invested heavily in
- Peter Warnock
Is this question a result of Twitter having a great idea, some buzz and an early lead but ultimately not executing well and not being ruthless enough?
- Paul M. Watson
Facebook for sure.
- Vijayendra (V-Mo) Mohanty
My first thought was MySpace.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Friendfeed is Twitter and Twitter is Microsoft
- Steve Gillmor
facebook, no question
- kosmar
Funny, nobody mentions News Corp. Never ignore the gorilla in the dark corners.
- Shoq
Steve, what FriendFeed features do you think Twtr/Doug Bowman couldn't implement in 3 weeks, if market or vision warranted? I can't find any.
- Shoq
Twitter *ISN'T* Netscape. It's either AOL or MySpace. But I think FaceBook is Twitter's biggest rival now. Twitter is becoming a cesspool of banality and irrelevant babble.
- Chuck Shotton
to me, the only guess is friendfeed. i believe that twitter's reign will be pretty short
- Kirill Bolgarov
To answer this question there has to be a good guy and a bad guy. So I pick Facebook.
- Kevin Gamble
Microsoft is Mosaic :)
- CantorJF
twitter is not netscape - netscape was based on quality tech from its earliest days and when they had issues they improved them iteratively - twitter is nothing like netscape in this regard...
- mike "glemak" dunn
FriendFeed is Microsoft to your Twitter is Netscape.
- Diego Barros
Bigfoot is the rest of us. Anyone can set up a status feed or micro-blog. Big or small.
- tom murphy
Dave Winer: there is a place that is free from Scoble. It is called MySpace and Live.com.
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LOL.
- imabonehead
You like dave then ? ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Even you are better than MySpace and Live.com (Sarcasm, I really like your stuff)
- Tyler (Chacha)
from IM
LOL
- CW™
don't forget Plurk and FriendsReunited
- Zee.
I just wanted to let him know that there is someplace he could go without seeing me. Thinking of it I am not on Yahoo or AOL much either.
- Robert Scoble
You're not on Classmates.com, are you?
- Robyn Miller
I show up on Plurk once a year to say hi and to collect karma. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I'm pretty sure he isn't on HeavyAsHell.com yet either. :D
- MarkCarras
You should try MySpace, Robert, I'm sure you'd love it ;-)
- Phil Jeudy
Robyn: no.
- Robert Scoble
Bebo?
- AJ Kohn
I sent you a friend request on Plurk right after Gnomedex this summer and it's still sitting there. :D
- MarkCarras
Phil: I love the music there but my son hangs out there so I don't need to.
- Robert Scoble
AJ: nope, not on Bebo.
- Robert Scoble
Dave wrote a blog post about the "Church of Scoble" but says he doesn't have Scoble top of mind. Hmmmm.
- Michael Krigsman
And Scoble says he doesn't care about followers, yet has <insert large number here>. Hmmmm.
- Michael Krigsman
Michael the one who cares about being followed will put most care into who he or she follows.
- Robert Scoble
Waste of perfectly good domain names.
- Melik Yuksel
I bet Fling.com would be another place not to find Scoble. At least...I hope it is.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Not on Fling either.
- Robert Scoble
I'm pretty sure I haven't seen you on Hello Kitty Online, either. Wait, I mean—never mind.
- Mark Trapp
Robert, the people who want lots of followers follow anyone, hoping the following will be returned. For most people, following fewer people leads to fewer follows, not more.
- Michael Krigsman
I'm friends with a guy who sings in a death metal band and he loves Hello Kitty. Creepy eh? :D Nice guy though.
- MarkCarras
Yes, but what is the quality of those followers? it's all very low quality people who will never respond or converse with you.
- MarkCarras
I don't want the most followers. I want to have conversations with smart people. Which is why I am here and why I follow you.
- Robert Scoble
Kyte aint working for me! hmmm
- bcultral
I'm smart.?.. :o) nice one!
- Rob Sellen :o)
LOL! Best line I've read all day, Scoble. Well done, sir.
- Steven Perez
I haven't seen you on LinkedIn. If you haven't checked it out recently, you may want to revisit it. Conversations are now supported within LinkedIn groups, and they also have their "Answers" feature. In my case, LinkedIn is more relevant to my job (but FriendFeed is more relevant to my interests).
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
One thing about LinkedIn - it does have its LIONs who will link to just about anybody. I do link to a few people with more than 500 followers (Chris Brogan being one of them), but try to do this judiciously.
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
I don't do LinkedIn either.
- Robert Scoble
You're missing out on the recent home.live.com launch. Nice aggregation features across other SNs with IM integration. You should check it out.
- Randy Holloway
You used to be a big Live.com fan - back when you worked at Channel 9. Have you given up on Live? ;-)
- Lorin Olsen
I am still checking it out but it hasn't done anything to get me super excited.
- Robert Scoble
I did literally laugh out loud at this.
- Matt Cutts
I blocked Dave Winer to save him the pain of being enslaved by me. Geesssshhhh.
- Robert Scoble
Winer was being a whiner tonight. I like the guy but he was talkin' more smack than normal.
- MarkCarras
More smack than normal? Have you been following Winer long? :)
- Bwana ☠
Ha! Good point. When it flows that heavy how does one tell that it is less or more? :D
- MarkCarras
Maybe Dave should start his own Twitter clone. Then he and the Gillmor Gang can sit all night and discuss why the letter W looks like a M on it's back
- Marcus Beagley
We went to Abby's school show last night and met her friends and hosts. Now we're seeing Rennes. It's nice to be a family again for a bit.
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Who made a difference in 2008 blogs social networks new media - http://techwag.com/index...
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kudos to Jason Goldberg .. He's having a really good year with Social|Median
- Jay
I like this ... "While the internet was made for Robert Scoble, social media was made for Louis Gray. "
- Susan Beebe
I think that's funny. Who is following more people on Twitter? Me or Louis? How about on Google Reader? Me or Louis? On Upcoming.org? Me or Louis? On Dopplr? Me or Louis? On FriendFeed? Me or Louis? In 2009 you'll see why I've been subscribing to so many smart people on all of these services. The one who follows the best people will win. :-)
- Robert Scoble
hahahhhaa Robert... funny!
- Susan Beebe
Yeah, I think TechWag is really lame. Come on, Chris Brogan and Loren Feldman didn't even make the list!
- Robert Scoble
I am not here to compete with Robert, trust me. :-)
- Louis Gray
Louis is my guinea pig. He tells me about cool new social media services that are getting tons of smart people on them to follow. I am the #1 user of social media services because I am seeing a new way to build information services thanks to them. That'll all be much more clear in 2009.
- Robert Scoble
Chris Brogan should DEFINITELY be on this list! major omission
- Susan Beebe
Louis is a fabulous resource for finding cool new shiny Social Media apps :) Thx!!
- Susan Beebe
A good example of this is my tech industry calendar over on Upcoming.org. It's the best in the industry because I am following the best people who tell me about the best events. http://upcoming.yahoo.com/user...
- Robert Scoble
Having many followers and following many people is great but someday I hope to read about how this all translates into a bottom line profit for people. Does it? Or is it just bragging rights? I don't know the answer to either.
- Wayne Schulz
Santa: there are a ton of people who should be on this list. How about @newmediajim who is changing what I think of NBC News due to his use of social media? How about @garyvee who is changing how we view wine thanks to his use of social media? THere are hundreds of examples of people who should have been on this list. TechWag didn't do its homework and just went for a few people who would "Like" the list. That might fly today, but it won't fly in the future as people get more astute about this stuff.
- Robert Scoble
Wayne: I believe that soon it'll mean profits, yes. That's why I've invested so much time in these. And if it doesn't, it will make my blog much better in 2009 because I'll have access to more news and opinions than anyone else. Not to mention my videos are much better and more informed because of all the inputs as well. You should watch my Guy Kawasaki interview to see an example of this. If I weren't a heavy social media user that interview wouldn't be nearly as good.
- Robert Scoble
Congratulations, Louis and Mike!
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
I just have to say this... Robert, you are a wonderfully bright guy who really knows how to break a headline. No one would ever argue your influence. However, Louis really comes across as genuine, low key, and really has a heart of service. We need a lot more people like Louis in this world, in my humble opinion.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
@robert - Chris didn't make it because there is no archive on his site, it is difficult to find things that he writes past the first set of entries. Loren didn't make it because the first thing that popped up on 1938 media was a request for my name and e-mail address with a close button. I'll boycott any one who has to use popups, lame or not :-)
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Ken: I won't argue that point. Louis is on my top 10 list for a reason: he earned it. That said, anyone who doesn't notice that I've been using these tools to build world-class information resources for the community (without charge) isn't paying attention. I'll put my FriendFeed like list up against anyone. My Upcoming calendar up against anyone. My openess with Dopplr and Google Calendar up against anyone. My Google Reader feed up against anyone (although lately I've been moving more of that time here).
- Robert Scoble
Chris Pirillo started Geeks. That's about it for him when it come to "starting websites". Why would you even add "twittering" for him? Going to Ping.fm and updating all of your social network all at the same time is being lazy. He doesn't interact with ANYONE on Twitter. Loren Feldman should have been on the list.
- Michael Forian
Michael: I agree. I don't see much evidence that Chris is using social media other than starting one of his own. Here's my top 10 list right from the stats of FriendFeed: michael arrington; Louis Gray; Duncan Riley; Thomas Hawk; Dave Winer; Steve Rubel; Jeremiah Owyang; MG Siegler; Tim O'Reilly; Loic Le Meur.
- Robert Scoble
man people - didn't mean to start a pissing contest here - ok, so who should be on a most important person in 2008 list?
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Can't argue with that, Robert. You know your stuff... It just sounds like this one opinion piece got under your skin. I don't think anyone would argue with the results you push for - and achieve. I just wonder why it has to be so competitive? I am most certainly not the social media expert everyone here is, nor do I want to be. You do a lot for people, Robert, but I wonder why you have to broadcast it so? Maybe it's the biz that I don't understand, I intend no disrespect to someone of your caliber.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
dan: if you hung out in social media and really participated you would have done what I did with my list of cool new companies of 2008: ask the community for feedback BEFORE publishing such a list. Tim O'Reilly deserves to be on it, too. He has done the best Twittering lately of anyone I follow.
- Robert Scoble
Ken: it's competitive because sponsors decide who they will support based on this crap, that's why. They start seeing lists of people and they say "we're going to support so and so in 2009 because they are doing the best job according to the community." Having lists like these are used by big company people all the time to justify their decisions. It comes down to giving credit to the people who do the work and who bring you the best stuff. That's not only fair, but it encourages others to do the work too.
- Robert Scoble
Louis made several tremendous posts in 2008. I mean on his blog, and here as well. But leaving Chris Brogan off, is like naming the American League and not mentioning the Red Sox. Sorry, just an opinion.
- Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
Robert, there's no question everybody here sees your work. You're tireless and connected and respected. I'd suggest that Dan, like any other blogger, is entitled to his opinion. You know I'm not looking for sponsors, so that's not the issue. As my "10 new 2008 services" post was opinion based, so is his item here. It's not wrong. It's not right. It's his. You listed some great people he may have considered or not, and that's fine.
- Louis Gray
(cont.) At this point, it's almost redundant to mention Robert Scoble or Chris Brogan in lists like these (though I would do it if the goal of the post was to highlight efforts like you two do). You're known. You're wildly visible, and will continue to be so. It is _not_ competitive between me and you, ever, that I know of. Let me know if you think that I am somehow costing you ad dollars.
- Louis Gray
The more I read this thread, I realize how many good people were not included on that list. Worse yet, the author(s) did not do their homework FAIL.
- Susan Beebe
Louis: well, he's entitled to his opinion and I'm entitled to mine. The list of his is incomplete. You say you aren't looking for sponsors, but you are employed by someone who enjoys having a thought leader and influencer in their midst. Same for my sponsors.
- Robert Scoble
Louis: when a list gets pushed along and is incomplete and people don't point that out it makes me wonder about the quality of the pushing. And, sorry, just because you know who I am doesn't mean everyone does. It's nice to be respected for the work I've done on social networks. Dan mentioned me in a demeaning way and tried to make it sound like I don't do anything on social networks. That got my goat because I've trashed my blog this year to spend so much time on social networks.
- Robert Scoble
@Robert - I never intended to ever trash you - ever, that was not intentional and would never be. I would not willingly or knowingly trash you, your reputation, or the things you do for people. You are an anchor in social media, you are a person that others orbit around, you are a thought leader, you liked my case study of you earlier this year, you are one of my heroes, I never thought this would happen over a stupid list of people.
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
dan: maybe I'm touchy about it because tons of people keep telling me I was stupid to take time away from my blog to spend it on Twitter and FriendFeed and Upcoming and Google Reader. But, forget me, I just left a comment about some other people who deserved to be on the list. How about Barack Obama? He did a lot with social networking -- far beyond what I've done this year.
- Robert Scoble
The way I took Dan's comment about Robert Scoble: Internet :: Louis Gray : Social Media is that Social Media is a small subset of the Web. I didn't see it as demeaning, but instead a measure of respect that acknowledged you. One of the things I said at BlogWorld Expo is that you come up in every panel, whether you are there or not. The same is true in discussions like these. You are Bill Gates/Microsoft. I am SGI, maybe. :-)
- Louis Gray
@ robert - right now I am building out an apology blog entry cause I didn't mean to slight anyone. Obama yes, but it was not him, it was his team, some very smart 20 somethings that did the work. If I had their names then yes, but without their names - maybe as a follow on, but right now I am gun shy, the odds of me ever putting out a top anything list ever again - pretty damn slim. I am not one of those who would ever call you stupid either.
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Louis: social media is more important than the Internet. :-)
- Robert Scoble
dan: I'm not THAT mad. I'm just jet lagged and punchy after watching Loic and Michael go at it all day. Don't do another post. Sorry for overreacting.
- Robert Scoble
@robert - then don't scare me like that again! :-)
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
don't forget to bring some humility into '09
- Bob Sonin
Three geeks in the car: 1 BlackBerry Storm, 1 Android G1, and 1 iPhone. Fun to compare Web speeds and interfaces...
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and the results :)
- webosapien (Burcu Tüzün)
*laughs* My friends and I do this all the time. iPhone still dominate in my group though. :) http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Daynah
I like, but I'm sad that WinMo was not represented. I'm scared; I need someone to hold me, and Mr. Mage is off playing Warhammer.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
iPhone wins! :D
- Susan Beebe
Sounds like an intro for a joke. :P
- Hao Chen
What, no Motorola brick-sized car phone in the running?
- Micah Wittman
Which one does GPS Nav best?
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Hehehe thats my car everyday except there is only one geek responsible.
- EricaJoy
When this geek gets in her car, an HTC Mogul and an iPhone get in, too. When this geek gets her motorcycle back...you know the rest.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Erica, I have it on good word that your 'droid is 'dog food' quality... Keep up the good testing.
- Louis Gray
Blackberry came in 3rd for our Web demo. Android owner prefers his, but I got GPS directions fastest.
- Louis Gray
All right - dying to know what to get for my next phone. Thanks for the comments!
- Martha
Are those the same commenters from the iPhone 2.3 post I wrote on LouisGray.com?
- Jesse Stay
Louis - so I was right then huh? iPhone wins! :)
- Susan Beebe
You geeks, you!
- Shevonne
If you came and picked me up it'd be four geeks and a Nokia.
- Robert Scoble
Next time, we'll pick you up, Robert. You can help lift furniture as we're moving people today! Pure physical labor...
- Louis Gray
Three geeks and you didn't create a robot to move the stuff for you? Shame, shame
- Shevonne
lol @ Louis
- vijay
Wow - <gadgetenvy> ............ that collection would make a great Christmas morning!
- Chris Rogers
and the winner is?
- Peter Warnock
I heard a TV commercial today by Apple, with (roughly) this line: "iPhone has the fastest page load, so you won't miss winning that auction on EBAY!"
- Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
Which one of you was driving?
- Tim Ostler
BlackBerry owner was driving. The Android owner and I did the testing.
- Louis Gray
Sorry @imshane the 10 Reasons why Twitter is for you and why FriendFeed is not is on my blog at http://scobleizer.com
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What do you make of the open social tools, will you be introducing Facebook Connect, Google Friend Connect etc to your blog?
- Joe Dawson
Joe: I'm on wordpress.com so I need to convince Matt Mullenweg to do that.
- Robert Scoble
I am out of the game according to the Facebook Developer forum, seems like I have to be self hosted. Google Friend Connect is much more user friendly!
- Joe Dawson
do you subscribe to people on friendfeed if they ask you nicely?
- Aziz Poonawalla
Aziz: Only if they participate. Of course, begging for a follow is a form of participation. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
fair enough :) and thanks! now the pressure is on, of course, to make sure my participation has high enough SNR to actually be noticeable...
- Aziz Poonawalla
TWiT Holiday Party of one. http://twinkle.tapulous.com/index...
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ha ha. Looks great!
- Bryan Pearson
Someone's a happy camper ;)
- Michael Forian
Hope it was happy hour.
- Paul W. Swansen
Probably was a very happy hour. :)
- Robert Miller
Geez, I hope thats not Leo's way of saying he got stood up?
- Jim Bednarz
Hey we have the exact same glasses!
- pixelcrafter
from twhirl
I only see one straw...and such a big glass
- Mitch Baldwin
EXCLUSIVE: Facebook is turning on HD video. Watch the video at http://www.fastcompany.tv -- you heard it here first!
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Video of Chris Putnam here. He runs Facebook's video team: http://www.fastcompany.tv/video...
- Robert Scoble
Nice!!!!
- drew olanoff
720 P HD video now on Facebook.
- Robert Scoble
16:9 goodness.
- Robert Scoble
Also, videos are now embeddable on your own blog!
- Robert Scoble
cool .... did you get re-instated ?
- johnpiercy
Why is this important? Any user generated videos will likely be cell-phone quality. Enlighten me!
- Will Higgins™
Nice one Robert!
- Evan
If cellphone photos are any sign, HD cellphone video isn't that far off.
- Kevin Fox
watching now. looks cool
- Scott Sorheim
Like Winer said, it's all just about the feature fight. YAWN!
- Stephen Pierzchala
Animes and TV shows moving to Facebook...?
- Kristian Salonen
f ya! their video product has been so poor. wonder if we can see video views now?!?!
- sean percival
Wait a minute. This one is actually a feature that people care about. If Scoble likes it that's a clue.
- Dave Winer
I wonder when/if they will increase the quality of the photos that are uploaded
- Brian Sloane
Will: Because many new camcorders do HD video. Also, SmugMug and Vimeo had HD first and should get credit.
- Robert Scoble
When they talk about a Battle For Mindshare -- that's the BS. http://bit.ly/ul49
- Dave Winer
Brian: the quality should start going up soon. Especially if you uploaded 720P stock.
- Robert Scoble
At last a great use for my Kodak Zi6. Huge difference from my old Flip.
- Christine Dattilo
NEWS FLASH! Winer and Scoble agree! Skating now open on Crystal Spring Resevoir! But I guess I would have to be a bigger video creator/user to really care that deeply.
- Stephen Pierzchala
Do I get stats on my videos yet?
- drew olanoff
impressive picture quality.
- john conroy
I don't think I've seen anyone use the facebook video on my list. I think youtube should get off their arses and do something similar, though.
- Terry O'Fee
This is probably very naive, but I just don't understand how companies can handle storage for media like this. Millions of users (I know only a fraction will) upload HD quality video. I don't get it. And I just got my customized Flip Mino (decided no HD because of file size). http://twitpic.com/qghk
- Leif Hansen
@drew thats what im saying, video hosting with stats is worthless to content producers and ego maniacs!
- sean percival
Now I really need to go to the beauty parlor instead of the barber! Google Connect/FB Connect YTube HD/FB HD. The big guys know recession means sharp elbows in the paint!
- Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
this guys hair was SOOOO made for HD
- sean percival
I like Vimeo a lot. No one uploads any video to Facebook. I've seen 1 video from my friends on Facebook. Posting video from other sites though, that's becoming more common. Too bad the only videos posted are SNL sketches.
- Will Higgins™
Actually I heard it on Twitter first. :D :D :P
- Bwana ☠
interesting how the story appears to be only on scobles blog and techcrunch hmm
- Allen Stern
Yup, I wasn't actually the only one with the news here. I have the only video. This is the first time I've agreed to a nondeterminant exclusive. We only knew a few minutes ago that the news would go out now. Rocky woke me up in London to get the news posted.
- Robert Scoble
This one is a yawner for me. Youtube going HD was much more significant.
- Bwana ☠
hahah. facebook is good to link for other services...
- Terry O'Fee
Now Robert, I thought Facebook had kicked you off their platform a while back. Oh, but they let you back I see...
- Leif Hansen
not what i meant robert - more that it seemed like more usual outlets would have the news as well - i have never received facebook news but wondering why the other valley bloggos dont have it... as bwana notes, not really a huge deal - especially since we know facebook has no idea how to monetize (see my post yesterday)
- Allen Stern
Allen: it's because of the weird embargo. I had to agree to hold the news until they told us we could talk. Most news people wouldn't agree to that. Also, Facebook didn't want news to leak so they went with only a few people they had personal relationships with. I've known Chris Putnam since he was 16, so that's why I was included.
- Robert Scoble
Bwana: I agree that YouTube getting HD is more significant, but this is pretty major too. Also, Facebook lets you upload 20 minutes. YouTube only 10.
- Robert Scoble
Thanks Robert for the explanation
- Allen Stern
you also need to log in to see facebook content. not such a big deal these days but youtube links you can just click on no matter which computer you are on...
- Terry O'Fee
Terry: that is not true anymore. If videos on Facebook are shared with everyone you do not need to log in to see them anymore.
- Robert Scoble
this is so cool. add video chat capability, live streaming video, and this thing might get as big or bigger than youtube, considering the huge userbase facebook has.
- Rahul Krishnakumar
well, that's handy then. good to know. having the option to just click on a link and instantly watching the vid is alright by me.
- Terry O'Fee
I don't see it as major because Facebook's video community is virtually non-existent. Had they opened up video to non-Facebook users a year ago and THEN added HD today, it may be different. There's a ton of competition in this field, and it's a steep hill to climb. I will be very surprised if we're even talking about Facebook HD video 3 months from now.
- Bwana ☠
Lots of our customers are beta testing our 1080p video support - http://twurl.nl/e4kxby - so make sure to holler if you want your SmugMug account beta enabled. (I'd guess we're only a few days away from enabling it for all our Pros - but you can still play with it first)
- Don MacAskill
(That message was for anyone - not [just] Robert)
- Don MacAskill
Are they upscaling (or something) SD content to 720p? Every video I watch has an option to "View in Regular Quality" regardless of the source.
- Robert Yocum
Robert: if you upload a video with 720p then it does NOT upscale. If you upload lower quality, though, it does. Don: you guys rock. I so want a new Canon 5D.
- Robert Scoble
Robert It seems YouTube has three view qualities now, but only offers two choices per video. If the source is not uploaded in HD you get a choice of "normal" or "high." But if the source is HD (720p) you get a choice of "normal" or "HD"
- Michael Markman
Lowest cost route into making HD videos: the Flip Mino HD. (street ~$200) They're going to get a nice fat sales bump
- Michael Markman
@bobbyworld Nokia Kool-Aid tastes sorta like Microsoft Kool-Aid. Not as sweet as Apple Kool-Aid, though. :-)
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Playing cards Obama Style
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Maryam plays with a deck of Vote for Obama playing cards after our Thanksgiving dinner.
- Robert Scoble
from email
Love the T-day fingernail polish!
- jamesdkirk
The joker is McCain and Bush.
- Robert Scoble
You opened them?!
- Heather Solos
Were there Bush Cards?
- Trad Robinson
Heather: yeah. Bummed me out.
- Robert Scoble
Mine are still sealed. :) Glad that I'll get to see what they look like, though. Your sacrifice is appreciated. :)
- Jared Smith
Ethan: no Palin card.
- Robert Scoble
Trad: Bush is one of the Jokers.
- Robert Scoble
Never have understood this collectors concept. I do comics. Probably have over 10K of them. A couple valuable, most, just part of collection. The whole "collectability" of things boggles me!
- jamesdkirk
crap you were serious. i thought you were cracking a joke when you commented on my thread. i take back the big hands crack, man.
- Carlos Ayala
@Ethan: Apparently there weren't enough blindly slavish, Kool-Aid slurping Palin devotees to merit making novelty cards for her.
- Rob Sterling
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