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[WELCOME TO FF-BG]: Firstly welcome to the new Beginner's room! Hopefully this room will be used by new users to find out and ask questions on how to use FriendFeed + by more experienced users to help out with the queries and to welcome the new users to the FriendFeed community.
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If you have any queries on using FriendFeed start by checking the "guides" here: http://bit.ly/10vcK. If none help try searching the group as you may find it has already been answered:
- Kol Tregaskes
1. To do this type in one or more keywords, for example "filter", into the search box at the top of the screen. As you type a list will appear underneath the box. Before hitting Enter to start the search make sure "Search friendfeed-beginners for <keyword(s)>" is highlighted. Once you press Enter you will be presented with posts where the term or terms have been found in the title or a comment.
- Kol Tregaskes
2. If you find the list does not help you, press back on your browser or return to the group's home page here: http://friendfeed.com/friendf... and type in your question in the text box below the group's name and above the words "Add: Photos". This is the 'share box' and you will find these on most pages within FriendFeed.
- Kol Tregaskes
3. If you would like to add an image, such as a screenshot, click on the word "Photos" underneath the box and use the dialog to navigate to the image you wish to upload. Then either double-click on image file or highlight the file and click on the Open button. A progress bar will appear and once the image is uploaded it will be shown as a small thumbnail under your post.
- Kol Tregaskes
4. Once you're happy with your post press the "Post" button and you will see your post appear in the group just under the share box.
- Kol Tregaskes
Later on you'll hopefully get one or more comments to your post. These will apear under your question, to post your own comments:
- Kol Tregaskes
1. Click on the word "Comment" under your question.
- Kol Tregaskes
2. A new text box will appear at the bottom of the comments already posted. Type your comment in the box and press the "Post" button. This wil post your comment and it will appear at the bottom of the thread.
- Kol Tregaskes
I hope this gets you started, feel free to leave any feedback here. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
NEED MORE HELP? CAN'T FIND YOUR ANSWER HERE? You are welcome to post your question here, but also feel free to ask any of the Admins of this group (we're the ones whose names you see as authors of any of the [HOW TO:] posts in this group). By clicking on any of our names, you can subscribe to our feeds and have the opportunity to watch regular, avid FF users in action. Also, you can then send us a Direct Message (click the link in your Filters box) and ask for help.
- Mark Traphagen
If you want to view the "guides only please use this link: http://bit.ly/1ll2Y - this shows all the HOW-TO, LISTs and other help posts that have been written for the group and is a great way to start.
- Kol Tregaskes
Hi, I am manoj sharma from India, a newbie hree. I need some help of senior member.
- Manoj Sharma
Please review the website: http://bit.ly/LCSBQ
- Manoj Sharma
This will be very useful for a workshop I am doing in my HEI to introduce academic and support staff to the delights and benefits of 'using social media to inform and educate' - any further hints, tips or useful guides that anyone can point me to, would be very gratefully received ;-)
- Julia Ault
Hi and Kia Ora....My name is Fololi Lologa-Iosua from Auckland, New Zealand...This is my first time on FriendFeed and I welcome any suggestions and recommendations to help me build up my networks with people all over the globe...I look forward to more communciations with you all! I quite like your idea Julia about the use of Social Media to inform and educate....Look forward to a long lasting friendship on FriendFeed!
- Fololi Lologa-Iosua
and so it begins. I'll start the office ff how do you sign your name to your post?
- rin wall
Introducing the FriendFeed Team - http://bub.blicio.us/1111126...
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hey, where are louis gray and Scoble? :) kidding:)
- Christian Anderson
I helped push them into the corner, does that count, Christian? :)
- Louis Gray
hahaha :)
- Christian Anderson
I LOLed when I saw you in the next picture on Brian's post.
- Christian Anderson
Just what we figured: A bunch of geeks and a hot chick. (runs screaming 'Bear, Bear, Bear'...............)
- Molly
Why is the guy on the right playing with a toy guitar?
- Gilbert Harding
So which one of them is Kol again? ;)
- CAJ, somewhere else
Tudor has my green hands. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I never ceased to be amazed by how so much is done by so few. Everyone in that picture rocks. I'll even give Camilla a wee fistbump.
- CAJ, somewhere else
Seriously, I agree, Alan.
- Molly
Bump for the good times.
- Mark Krynsky
ahh memories
- (jeff)isageek
Mashable and LA Times discussed here (I changed this post to remove inaccuracy in headline).
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Well... What can you say? They've used my video work before with no credit/links. Is it typical of the site now?
- Jolie O'Dell
That's why I love TechCrunch.
- Guilherme da Rosa
TechCrunch isn't the best about linking back, either. Just sayin'. I still love TC, though. Good reads.
- Jolie O'Dell
If the article's down, I'm sure it's cached.
- Jolie O'Dell
Copying? In what way? I saw the statement (on Current) and wrote an article. The image I found in a cc search. If it's copyrighted, I'll take the image down asap.
- Ben Parr
Ben: Can you link us to the post in question?
- Jolie O'Dell
Ben posted his article before this was posted, it looks like it happened the other way around Scoble. http://mashable.com/2009...
- Jimminy
@Jolie: If we use your video work without credit/links, just email me and I'll fix it.
- Ben Parr
It was part of a post on Dan Zarella's work. Pete referenced the video but made no mention of the fact that it was originally created for and published on RWW. Now, to be fair, Dan asked and received permission to use the video on his own, but it just doesn't look good for Mashable. And people notice.
- Jolie O'Dell
I just sent you a DM Scoble. It sums up to this: I do not appreciate your attacking my journalistic integrity. I have never, on purpose or ever, stole content from anyone and liberally link back if you were a consistent reader of my articles
- Ben Parr
Furthermore, the LA time piece came AFTER my article, published on September 1st, not the 2nd.
- Ben Parr
Glad to hear this one was a misunderstanding... whew. The drama!
- Jolie O'Dell
Ben, actually there is a copyrighted article in the Op-ed from 6:30 yesterday. http://www.latimes.com/news...
- Jimminy
Oh, the irony! ;D
- Guilherme da Rosa
Fight
- Wayne Sutton
from iPhone
Jeez...
- Jolie O'Dell
Scoble doesn't have to, the first link on the page linked to my second link.
- Jimminy
What a hot mess this is.
- Jimminy
Why do I get the feeling we're going to read all about this on Techmeme later today or tomorrow? Can we all just get along?
- Wayne Sutton
from iPhone
Jimminy - thanks for the link. I took the statement from - http://current.com/sl... and credited it to Current in the article. I never take or steal from anyone purposely for any reason. Ever.
- Ben Parr
Ben: how did you get the release? From Current.tv? Why not link to the original? I've Tweeted all of this.
- Robert Scoble
ROFL @drew
- Jolie O'Dell
Ben: why didn't you link to the original?
- Robert Scoble
someone dog pile on someone please.
- geoff hines
And, Ben, someone sent me this post. So, perception out there is why I wrote this. Glad you cleared it up and I'm sorry I questioned your integrity. I didn't see attribution in the original and it looked strange.
- Robert Scoble
that statement was of sufficient public interest that I figured the lack of attribution wasn't the biggest deal in the world. I read the statement on mashable and was glad to get the chance to. of course generally speaking attribution is important, I'm just saying.
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
Scoble: I did link, to current.tv's homepage. The statement appears on the homepage when you visit the first time. It changes after the first time you visit the homepage. That is something I will remember for the future.
- Ben Parr
...and if you ever wanted to see a navel-gazing blogger sh*tstorm in six minutes flat... HERE WE ARE!!!
- Jolie O'Dell
Even though he was wrong, I'm glad Scoble is now the copyright police. AP was doing a really bad job. Kidding, it's an important issue and it's good it gets talked about.
- Dominic Jones
Scoble, he got it from the Current site, it's front page there currently. There is no link to the LA Times version on Current either.
- Jimminy
Interesting. Regardless of linking back or not, I'm tired of bloggers not coming up with their own stories/angles and writing posts ABOUT other posts, period. My unsolicited $0.02.
- Jennifer Leggio
Marshall: it's always best to explain how you got the information and link to the original, if it's on the web somewhere. It's like forgetting a footnote in a college paper.
- Robert Scoble
Check your facts, always, plz. Kthx.
- Andru Edwards
Jennifer, in our mutual defense, only so much news happens in any given day. And unlike @arrington, not all of us can just make sh*t up. ;)
- Jolie O'Dell
My question, how the f*ck did the LA Times get a copyright on this when it came directly from Laura and Euna on the Current site.
- Jimminy
Jolie, Yeah, but letting news drive all of the content is just lazy. Then again I tend to veer toward more feature / interview type stuff anyway. To each his - or her - own. :) We're in agreement about @arrington, though. ;-)
- Jennifer Leggio
Is this Armageddon? Tech blog wars!
- Jesse Stay
Jimminy: LA Times puts copyright on everything. Truth is LA Times didn't link either. which is why my reader was confused. By the way, I've just apologized to Ben on Twitter. See, it all works out.
- Robert Scoble
Jennifer: I am worried about that trend as well. However, most stories are broken by just one (of millions) of instutitions, or are reporting on a public statement and we all pick up on it. I try to give a smart analysis on those stories though.
- Ben Parr
Ew.
- Kishau Rogers
Robert: I appreciate it, apology accepted. These misunderstandings happen.
- Ben Parr
I just want everyone to know that I love all of you - group hug?
- Jesse Stay
PJ - I've seen a lot of comments lately about Mashable feeling more "tabloid" like.
- Jennifer Leggio
@Jesse Stay: It's a Twitter prank ;D
- Guilherme da Rosa
Ben - Agree. A unique angle helps, but sometimes I think those unique stories are diminished because everyone is racing to get the most page views.
- Jennifer Leggio
Ben: the thing is, Mashable has a rep as per http://live.louisgray.com/2008... and that's why I jumped in.
- Robert Scoble
GROUP HUG!
- Jolie O'Dell
<3
- drew olanoff
I agree Jesse, and I also agree with Drew, we'll just #blamedrewscancer
- Jimminy
s2
- Guilherme da Rosa
I wonder what we're going to blame things on after Drew beats his cancer?
- Robert Scoble
Also - I'm going to wager Current didn't link back to the holy la times because they broke the release story. ChloeS had the inside track before the times knew it was daylight.
- Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
You.
- Jolie O'Dell
I'll still blame his cancer, and scoble
- Jesse Stay
#BlameScoble! Or... not... Ok, I'm outtie for now. Be kind, peeps!
- Jolie O'Dell
I own blamescoble.com. Dave Winer thinks I should create a wiki out of it - what do you think?
- Jesse Stay
Robert: I was not editor then, and it's a much larger and stronger team now.
- Ben Parr
@robert: seeing as how you KNOW PEOPLE AT MASHABLE, why didn't you bother to verify it as accurate before making it public?
- Jeremy Toeman
Jolie: Group hug! Jennifer and PJ: Always feel free to email criticism or thoughts at ben@mashable.com, and I will email you mine.
- Ben Parr
PJ - Agreed. I actually wrote a post that dug into the topic on PR 2.0 last week. I would link it, but I don't want to post whore. :)
- Jennifer Leggio
I think Scoble should do a guest post on Mashable
- Wayne Sutton
from iPhone
Jesse, I say we take Scoble's avatar and replace his mouth with a text input and then we can cram the stuff we blame Scoble for down his throat. In a nice way.
- Jimminy
So what's the verdict on the Gmail piece??
- Minu Nianda
Jeremy Toeman makes the best point in this thread.
- Jennifer Leggio
Jeremy: in hindsight that probably would have been better way to go. I live in public, though, for better or for worse. Sometimes better. Sometimes worse. No one can accuse me of playing footsie behind closed doors, though.
- Robert Scoble
Crap happens, and I'm glad to have people like Robert Scoble paying attention. I'm sure it wasn't anything purposely done, but the fact that we have checks and balances and a code of conduct is a great thing.
- drew olanoff
@Robert: what kind of a BS answer is that? you PUBLICLY ACCUSED them. period. no footsie, no nothing. now if *anyone* thinks they actually did that, you are to blame, because they might not have noticed your follow-up tweet. it's irresponsible.
- Jeremy Toeman
I don't see the link on the Mashable article to the Current page. Where is it? I find it funny that Ben Parr and Mashable are being called out for using a statement, and ostensibly linking to Current, from Current employees instead of the LA Times. Considering the story is identical on Current and the LA Times, it's almost likely they issued the statement to multiple news outlets....
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- Mark Trapp
Thanks drew. Truth is, a reader of mine sent me this and wondered why Mashable does this. So, glad the perception was dealt with in public.
- Robert Scoble
@Drew: yes, the code of conduct is to VERIFY RUMORS before making accusations.
- Jeremy Toeman
@Robert: something you could have verified and cleared up in private, there was no reason to do so in public.
- Jeremy Toeman
Mark, we've already concluded the direct-from-source version was the one on Current, still haven't seen a proper link to it though.
- Jimminy
Jeremy: fair enough. I work in public. That's my tool of choice.
- Robert Scoble
One reason not to link to the original is because then your readers will see how little value you added to the piece you copied.
- Dominic Jones
Robert - But to Jeremy's point, if you're trying to serve the community, don't you owe it to the community to check accuracy? Otherwise it's perpetuating the problem. We went straight to an issue of accused plagiarism to one of potential libel.
- Jennifer Leggio
Jennifer: true. I went over the line.
- Robert Scoble
Jimminy: fair enough. Thought I was blind with the link, because in this discussion, Ben Parr said he linked the story to Current.
- Mark Trapp
Wow, everything unfolded and wrapped up in 45 minutes. Talk about real time.
- Mona Nomura
I added a clarification to the bottom of the article in question so nobody else gets confused. Hopefully that ends all confusion and @scobleizer and I can be friends again. If there are future issues, I respond to emails fast and DMs faster.
- Ben Parr
Mark, the post has been amended, the link is at the very bottom of the article now.
- Jimminy
Pete Cashmore stole my heart with his good looks!
- sean percival
I hope Armageddon ends up in a group hug like this
- Jesse Stay
this reminds me of that time Glenn Beck misconstrued something someone said and then got called on it and apologized...wait, dammit, that didn't happen that was just a dream I had last night argh
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
here is engagement;p
- zʍıɔ
What you didn't see in the video of Robert interviewing me was that we were, in fact, playing footsie. Whew. Glad I got that off my chest. Sorry, Robert. It had to be said in light of all this public venting. :)
- Lon Cohen
Here we go again..... So I had a look and coming in late on this I see at the bottom Mashable link to Current - OK, all fixed everyone happy. I went and read the louisgray.com post @Scoble linked to above and Louis links to a post on parislemon.com regarding Ars Technica so I read that and am then having a quick look at the Ars post and a 'similar' post is recommended by Ars to me on...
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- Stephen Edgar
I'm letting you all know right now: I am not accepting any of your Green Patches, Mafia Mobs, or Sorority Life requests. :D
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*gives Haggis a cupcake*
- Rodfather
I'm also stating for the record right now: I'm not going anywhere.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
I do accept cupcakes, though! *nomnomnomnom*
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
*poke*
- Trent Olson
*starts throwing piss-laced snowballs*
- Joe Silence is not dead
Poke away. And DS you're NASTY. :D
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Wow I had to turn off Real Time for the first time ever. 75 posts per second, at least!
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
But I like my Green Patch!
- Heather
Bump, because some people didn't see this post. *looks at Matt Ruiz*
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Bwahhahahaaaahahaaaa! Super Poke!!!!!
- Martha
Friendfeed is coming to Seesmic Desktop and web, says Loic (see comments)
Daniel Rowley, HealingBrush, Darren Heydon and 109 other people liked this
This may get me switched back to using Seesmic but will @loic release a iPhone app?
- Vinko
Vinko: yes. Loic told me he's working on iPhone app too.
- Robert Scoble
Now if only socialscope would put it in their client for Blackberry's.
- Sheryl
Here's another vote for a Seesmic iPhone app!
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
I still haven't met a FF application I could stand to use for more than a few minutes.
- Craig Eddy
I saw an early alpha of the iPhone app. Looked good. I also saw an early alpha of Seesmic web and the way it advanced between the alpha and launch was dramatic - so I expect the iPhone client will track the same way.
- Steve Rubel
from email
Robert that's really great. I definitely will consider switching back when the Seesmic iPhone app arrives.
- Vinko
Will get me,too, switched back to using Seesmic ;) Looking forward to hear from Loic soon
- Ali BULUT
I interpret this as a strong sign favorable towards Friendfeed
- lelapin
hurray
- Thomas Power
This might just tempt me away from Tweetdeck...
- Andrew Terry
If they add friendfeed to the web app, I'll maybe use it instead of PeopleBrowsr. But then again, peoplebrowsr has implemented friendfeed in a very good way already.
- Svartling
Great News !
- Jean-Charles
You gotta keep an eye on Yahoo homepage. They have FB integration and someday may integrate Twitter (they have the 'what are you doing now'). Seesmic is way ahead, but Yahoo has mainstream adoption
- Jeremiah Owyang
Jeremiah, I agree. The new Yahoo homepage is impressive.
- Steve Rubel
from email
Im not sure it's impressive, as it's evolutionary, not revolutionary. When Wave comes out, it could dash the shine that Yahoo has.
- Jeremiah Owyang
I like ff's web design
- kang
Android app, please? :D
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Where do I sign up! I'm praying your web app will make my life of FF, FB, Twitter ETC more manageable!!!!! W/out crashing my puters AND still let me see my Home feeds!
- Arleen Anderson
I'm thinking that this is the type of post that would be good reason for FriendFeed to have a "Love" click option next to the "Like" click option so that we can register better levels of our emotion towards news we read in others' streams!
- Chris Aldrich
good news!
- Jeroen De Miranda
I have been using Seesmic from the beginning this is GREAT news!
- Robyn Hawk
Great news. Been looking for a good Friendfeed app
- Barry Howell
I'm quite excited for Seesmic's FriendFeed iPhone app.
- Amir
yes yes yes
- Loic Le Meur
Don't forget Android when developing mobile apps!
- Travis B. Hartwell
I agree with Vinko; this would be a good reason to switch back to Seesmic
- Anne Mai Bertelsen
Might be late... but how is the Facebook acquisition going to effect this? I can't stand the way that app takes over Friendfeed.
- Arleen Anderson
A look into mind mapping with MindManager - http://www.viddler.com/explore...
Graham Sergeant, roland legrand, Ian and 34 other people liked this
Okay who here actually wants to see a map of my mind?
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from iPod
I love MindManager. Great App!
- CW™
Glad to see mindmapping getting some "ink" again. Great stuff.
- Steve Rubel
This is something I've wanted to learn more about, so I'm glad to have this video intro.
- Mark Traphagen
Looks cool. I've used FreeMind, which is free, for a couple years now, but I like how this app is integrated with the Web. Nice stuff.
- Craig Villamor
In this video is Michael Deutch and he's on FriendFeed here: https://friendfeed.com/michael...
- Robert Scoble
I've been using NovaMind, haven't gotten in the habit of using religiously but when I do, it does really help to put thoughts down. Is definitely a good place to think before Powerpoint as Michael outlined.
- Lou Paglia
I started using Mind Manager to layout Google AdWords PPC campaigns where I work, but very quickly saw many other uses for it.
- Mark Traphagen
Curio's also neat, it has mind mapping (not as in-depth as MindManager) but a ton of other stuff too - even project tracking! Great for organizing creative projects. Mac only. http://www.zengobi.com/product...
- invariant - farewell FF
he mentioned that software lays on top of mindmanager for project management. can we get some examples of the complimentary software?
- Scott Magdalein
I've used XMind but it has some limitations.. doesn't print well, for example...I'd like to see MindJet used in realtime presentations.. Have any links??
- Patty Seybold
Craig - MindManager is integrated with the web in several ways - embedded web browser, web services, RSS feeds, and more. For instance, you can drag and drop a google doc right onto your map and then edit the content inside MindManager while viewing your map. This lets you flush out your thinking and then reference it while writing. Very powerful combination.
- Michael Deutch
Patty, we have some recorded webinars on the Mindjet website where MindManager is used instead of PowerPoint. Check out the Jamie Nast webinar for instance: http://www.mindjet.com/about...
- Michael Deutch
Scott - Mindjet integrates with our own Gantt product (http://twurl.nl/q7epy7), Microsoft Project, or a variety of others. You can see some of the other project related partner solutions here: http://twurl.nl/ypvyii
- Michael Deutch
I LOVE this and have the perfect project to map this weekend. I have a focus issue and maybe I ought to use this software that has been sitting there feeling rejected for like 2 years, I think. I've attempted to use it about 3 times and freaked out and closed it. OK, I'm going to the video for help, wish me luck. Oh, I wonder if MindMaps can be published online?
- Sheree Motiska
Sheree: they can be, through a variety of methods.
- Robert Scoble
I got super amped on MM 2 years ago, used it every day for projects, then I kind of stopped. I found I did not return to the work that often and it would drift out. This is not a criticism, I just brainstorm on 3x5 cards faster now and then move to UI apps or whatever. But MM is definitely the best app. Even though we are in a web 2.x world, this workflow works best in desktop apps then pushed to web for collaboration. Hope I can slowly return to mapping in it again.
- Mark
The Mac version is decent.
- l0ckergn0me
Nope, I didn't do a video. I want to do one soon, though.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
The Mac version of MindManager doesn't allow saving to existing files on mounted samba shares. That was a show-stopper for me.
- Fred Yankowski
I have been experimenting with MindMeister - can anyone compare this with MindManager?
- roland legrand
23 Breathtaking Moments And Ideas Captured By Photographers http://whatinspires.brandonacox.com/23-brea...
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#STICKY : The Official FF Filters list. *note to admins - edit this post & add new filters as they come in, thanks :) Also, all comments in this post that aren't filter links have to be edited out.
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Fresh Scoble Likes: Posts where Scoble is the first (edit: only) person to like - http://sn.im/gdlcx
- vijay
FF is down?? - http://sn.im/gdlhp
- vijay
Guess What I'm Watching? Popular FF game to guess movies/tv shows - http://sn.im/gdlj4
- vijay
Eating Out? See what people are talking about. - http://sn.im/gdlka
- vijay
Coffee Lovers! - http://sn.im/gdll9
- vijay
Twitter FailWhale Sightings. THAR SHE REFRESHES! - http://sn.im/gdlma
- vijay
Economic Discussions on FF - http://sn.im/gdln4
- vijay
Content posted by your friends(replace isthisstupid in the URL linked here with your login-name) - http://sn.im/gdlos
- vijay
Who's checking FriendFeed out right now! - http://sn.im/gdlqc
- vijay
Top Photos on FF that aren't *liked* by you yet(replace koltregaskes in the URL linked here with your login-name) - http://sn.im/gdlr4
- vijay
Re-tweets from your friends and groups, with links (and are not thank yous): http://bit.ly/sEwRP - change the "friends:koltregaskes" with your username.
- Kol Tregaskes
iPhone news filter - http://sn.im/gdlrp
- vijay
FF Newbie - find who needs help with FriendFeed - http://sn.im/gdlsi
- vijay
FF Favorite people - find who is recommending who and if you wanna follow them. - http://sn.im/gdltd
- vijay
What Louis Gray likes: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Kahlil Lechelt
Retweets (via @ or RT @): http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Bwana ☠
Forgets - intitle:"I forgot" http://friendfeed.com/search... funny stuff in here :)
- Bwana ☠
New Jobs - intitle:"I got a new job" http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Bwana ☠
Memes - intitle:meme comments:2 likes:2 http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Bwana ☠
Track Twitter @Replies to multiple Twitter accounts (Replace 'SocialGeek' and 'Palsule' with your Twitter accounts) http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Track Scolbeizer's announcements under embargo: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Sriks7
service:lastfm,ilike,pandora friends:me http://friendfeed.com/search...
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
Some ground rules I set for myself on friendfeed...
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I don't block anyone.
- Ladybug Heather
I occasionally remove feeds from my home feed, but generally these are foreign-language feeds or no-interaction feeds.
- Ladybug Heather
So far, I believe I have friended everyone who has friended me, but I may have missed some. I really don't pass judgment, but I can see the possibility that I might in the future.
- Ladybug Heather
I only rarely delete my own comments from threads. I have only done this when I've duplicated an existing comment with no additional value, or when mine was the last comment in a thread and I thought it might be misunderstood.
- Ladybug Heather
I do not delete threads. Friendfeed is a public place, and discussions should happen in public. I am not ashamed of anything I've said here, though there may be items that could embarrass me in some circumstances. If I ever say something I am ashamed of, then I really need to re-think my participation.
- Ladybug Heather
I would not delete a thread from a room I moderate unless an overwhelming number of people ask me to.
- Ladybug Heather
I do not delete a comment from a thread without telling the person who posted it why it offends me or violates group norms, and offering them a chance to delete it first. [Though I do wish friendfeed kept a placemarker when a comment was deleted in a thread, so that it doesn't look like people are talking to themselves.]
- Ladybug Heather
What kind of content do you like?
- anna sauce
I stand up for others when I see ad hominem attacks, aggression, or hostility, particularly when I'm moderating a room.
- Ladybug Heather
[ @Anna, I couldn't even begin to describe! I find great joy in the randomness here on friendfeed. I love jumping from a post about beautiful women to a news link to a lolcat to a picture of a hot guy. This is awesome to me! Because I telecommute full-time, friendfeed is my "water cooler chat," which is supposed to be interesting, random, sometimes useful, sometimes goofy. ]
- Ladybug Heather
Forgot one: I very rarely request permission to a private feed, and only after getting to know the person through his/her comment/like activity. Even then, I sometimes forget. I figure, if you want your feed private, then you'll invite those who you'd like to have following you.
- Ladybug Heather
Basically, all of this adds up to: I try my hardest to treat people the way I want to be treated, with respect, honesty, and forthrightness. There's room for a whole lot of fun without sacrificing those.
- Ladybug Heather
Nice set of rules, but sometimes I have to b l o c k people, honey. I can't have my own experience ruined for the sake of being kind and considerate.
- Derrick
Perhaps, Derrick, but I find that many times, a simple unsub will do it. I use my blocks sparingly, though nowhere near as sparingly as the Ladybug.
- Scott of Two Countries
And Derrick, I don't mean to judge those who do block users. I have blocked exactly one, and I feel a twinge of regret when I am reminded of this. I believe very deeply that there is room for everyone, even people I disagree with or get annoyed with. And when I'm most annoyed, usually I need to look at my own behavior. I'm just trying to live out that principle ("there's room for everyone"), and this is one of the ways I do it. Not that it's always *easy*, of course... :-)
- Ladybug Heather
Seem like good rules, Heather. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I wish everyone on FF would follow these rules! nice heather!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Hey Heather, great rules. You can see if there's anyone who's subscribed to you that you haven't reciprocated by going to http://friendfeed.com/hedwyg... and then choosing "People I'm not subscribed to" from the View pull-down. (Or this direct URL might work: http://friendfeed.com/hedwyg... )
- Stephen Mack
If I post something and no one's commented on it in, say, 24 hours, I'll delete it. It's obviously not worth keeping it around.
- Glen Mistletoe
Heather, it is really funny. The people who advocate to block are the one's who have blocked me. But the funny thing, I never interacted with them. They only blocked me because someone told them to block me! LOL Keep spreading the Friendfeed Love! ;-)
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
*blush* Thank you, Kol and Igor and everyone who left a comment here. Given the recent unpleasantness, I needed to take a step back to think about my values and how I live them out, here on friendfeed and in other places.
- Ladybug Heather
[And okay, so on reviewing my subscribers who I'm not subscribed to, there are 48 people I didn't follow back, for a handful of different reasons.]
- Ladybug Heather
Well do not give up. And do not change your beautiful values. Maybe, do not take thing to your heart and have a cup of tea. Just relax and walk away when things get nasty. U need to be in control not others. I learned this by getting a heart attack. ;-)
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Oh, and I will try to remember what I recommended to you! If I forget, you remind me! ;-)
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Thank you so much, Igor! :-) Many hugs to you!
- Ladybug Heather
;-)
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
I forgot one! Before commenting on a thread, I try to read all the comments that are there first. If I have to click the "n more comments" link, chances are pretty good that someone else has already said the same bit of cleverness and wit that I planned to say; if not, then chances are pretty good that the conversation has diverged to where my bit of cleverness and wit no longer fits in with the thread.
- Ladybug Heather
If my cleverness doesn't fit into the thread I add it anyway to get my thread killer count up - Just kidding.
- Brent Smorgen Bleg
well I broke out the "block" feature today for the first time.. some guy spamming comment threads with a deal on sneakers or some crap. You may want to ammend "you don't block anyone" to "I don't block anyone who doesn't spam"
- Bill Rawlinson
So far, Bill, I haven't done that yet. I don't subscribe to (or unsubscribe from) those who seem to be spamming, and they seem to go away pretty quickly. Of course, at some point, I may revise my own personal rules, but so far, I haven't seen a compelling reason to change this one yet.
- Ladybug Heather
I don't post nudity.
- @CrystalinaB
My main ground rule on FF is to not think about using FF. I block & I never look back. It's just that simple.
- Mark Wilson
Gotta block sometimes. But that's a last resort. I think I've barely done it half a dozen times.
- Kamilah Gill
I think a good practice is to consider unfollowing EVERYONE each year, then just add folks that are relevant. Why? people change, you may not wanted to have followed them, or you may want to reduce the noise. What do you think?
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great idea
- Allen Stern
We clean our out contact lists in address books from time to time. Why not online.
- Kate Foy
How did you do this Holden? I'm following a few thousand folks
- Jeremiah Owyang
Jeremiah, and you can do this with SocialToo - it's $25, one-time payment, you never pay again. We unfollow everyone for you, pretty quick, too.
- Jesse Stay
That and you get all our other services, and we're sustainable unlike any of the other services out there doing it.
- Jesse Stay
(BTW, I added this feature when you recommended we add it when you were out at Omniture Summit) :-)
- Jesse Stay
Oh yeah Jesse. we xchanged emails about that. Hmm i may need it. Thinking it over
- Jeremiah Owyang
what might help is to be able to flag some followers as perms
- Allen Stern
Jeremiah let me know if you're ready to do it and I'll be sure you get top service and priority.
- Jesse Stay
Allen, we do that too - add them to your Unfollow whitelist and we'll never, ever unfollow them.
- Jesse Stay
I guess we just call it your "whitelist" - it's under your unfollowing preferences though.
- Jesse Stay
how much would this cost Jesse?
- Jeremiah Owyang
Jeremiah, it's $25, one-time fee for the bulk unfollow. You never pay again.
- Jesse Stay
nice one jesse! im slow :)
- Allen Stern
Check your e-mail, Jeremiah
- Jesse Stay
Ideas like this that make me wonder if you really are a social media expert. How can you have a 2 way conversation with your audience, if you try and maintain a wall of exclusivity? It's good that you keep the people that matter to you close, but it wouldn't hurt to get a little dirty by getting to know a few more of your fans.
- Davis Freeberg
Davis, what's funny is that I see people on your side, and on the other side of the auto-follow debate all criticizing the other for calling themselves Social Media Experts. I don't think there is any right or wrong way to do it.
- Jesse Stay
I'm not a social media expert and I don't mean to be harsh, but this comment sounds very elitist from someone who has benefited so much from the kindness of others. A better way he could have phrased it would have been to say hello readers, I want to make sure that you're getting the most out of your lifeblogging experiences, so once a year do a gut check and unfollow me if you want. No hard feelings I promise..
- Davis Freeberg
Perhaps one should bemore selective of whom one subscribes initially?
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from iPod
I'm downsizing my follows. The follow everyone who follows you concept has done more harm with noise than good besides to get your numbers higher.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
good idea... need SocialToo to clean house!
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
First, there are free tools to unfollow, no need to pay. See the category for Follower Management on our site http://EverythingTwitter.com I don't mass unfollow, I use some of the other tools to look first for ones that haven't posted in a while. That is quick cleanup.
- Chris Miller
It's certainly a stunt people have pulled before, using SocialToo and other tools. If that is how you want to use Twitter, Twitter is, in the end, and a la carte service geared to the individual. I personally prefer a richer, more diverse, stream, myself. #stilllongsforall@sback I think it is overthinking your social media use in your particular case at your particular experience level,...
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- Leslie Poston
Holden: It is very quick in a lot of the tools. Select all or unselect all. I am just saying if you are only looking to do this step, there are fre ones out there that work well. We review them all to our best before listing them
- Chris Miller
Why the eff am I even subscribed toyou?
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from iPod
Chris, the problem with those other tools is that they aren't sustainable. The Twitter API only allows a certain number of requests per IP, per hour, so as they get enough traffic, boom, now they don't work any more. Use them at will, sure, but keep in mind the minute any of them gets any attention they're going to go down due to the Twitter API limits. To keep one running you have to...
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- Jesse Stay
MVB who were you referring to here, J?
- Myrna
Holden, like your 'new' avatar. It looks new to me.
- Myrna
Jesse, I love SocialToo, don't get me wrong. But a lot of people don't follow that many (isn't the average small) that they would break the API limit that fast no? Just throwing out to search before paying to get what they need.
- Chris Miller
Chris, I think you'd be surprised. It's why we had to start charging for our features.
- Jesse Stay
I like the idea of changing who you follow but unfollowing everyone is going to far. I think trying to follow too few ppl is seen as a status symbol, but limits interaction w/ newbies, ppl who spark new interests, perspectives you otherwise ignore - defeats the purpose of using social media to discover new relationships and collaboration. But JUST TRY unfollowing everyone, and see how much you depend on certain ppl to pipe up when you need it most, etc....
- Liza
I think it's a good strategy. Maybe there are other good strategies, but this definitely is a good one. I think our minds work so strange that the one's answer to the question to "will I unfollow him?" when following not always be yes, when the answer to "will I follow him" while not following would be no. It's harder to deliberately unfollow someone then not starting to follow someone you don't follow (but might remember having followed in the past). Rigorously unfollowing all helps deal with this bias.
- Meryn Stol
like in the financial markets, do it each quarter :) Things change quickly in "social space"
- Vincent van Wylick
Davis. Didn't mean to sound like a jerk, so sorry if I did. My information habits and diet have changed, so I need to change my inputs.
- Jeremiah Owyang
I even started with a new username, without any follower, and completely new discussions :)
- Steph (sh_skew)
from iPod
I'm not sure I'd go so far as to unfollow everyone, but I think your basic idea is a good one, Jeremiah. My approach is more like managing an investment portfolio, periodically reviewing individual assets and their return, remixing to maximize overall benefit.
- Larry Hawes
Do you have to follow someone on Twitter AND Friendfeed? Is there some sort of twitterquette about that?
- Gregg Le Blanc
Everybody in New Jersey Was Arrested Today - http://gawker.com/5321403...
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Interesting ...
- Vox
*whistles*
- MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
Bout time... :P j/k
- CW™
I spent four fun-filled years there. Not surprised.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from iPod
They cleaned out part of Brooklyn, too.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
I wasn't arrested today,and I live in Jersey?
- Matt Ruiz
Somehow I managed to avoid arrest as well. I guess since I'm not a rabbi, politician, or kidney dealer, I wasn't eligible.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Historical Tweet - http://lickystickypickyme.tumblr.com/post...
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:)
- (jeff)isageek
Dickishness is a self-correcting function.
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bump
- Josh Haley
HA! Thanks for the reminder! FFOMA!
- David Cook
Dickishness is a self-correcting function
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+1000 for the starfox reference!
- Glenn Slaven
bump
- Josh Haley
I don't understand?
- Matt Ruiz
LOL
- CW™
No, you certainly do not.
- Josh Haley
Does this have to with Tina's no Dick Policy?
- Matt Ruiz
def dickishness(): dickishness = lambda: None; raise hell
- Karl Knechtel
Dickishness is a self-correcting function
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bump
- Josh Haley
Photos on Sunday: architecture - Telegraph - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture...
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"In the second of our monthly Photos On Sunday competition we received pictures of bricks, mortar, girders, balconies, steel, glass, tiles and even some wood. Buildings are not easy to photograph, but this selection of winning and commended shots shows that there is beauty in the built world"
- M F
from Bookmarklet
ohhh love it!!!
- Myrna
1frank 14 pesate
- emrah
Could you even imagine an ad like this now? Unless in some sort of irony but even then what is the subliminal message here?
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:P
- martha
Multi-Galaxy Collision Caught in Action [Wired Science] - http://georgedearing.com/multi-g...
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Ignoring You
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Uh oh he's got his irritated ears on :D
- martha
سیدعلیسنائی, John (a.k.a. dendroica) and Mark Traphagen liked this
App Store Updates Weirdness Back? | Just Another iPhone Blog - http://justanotheriphoneblog.com/wordpre...
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Same in iTunes - I saw an AIM update and it's gone now. Then it tells me updates available and shows me an empty page.
- Oliver Bouchard
yep seeing the same prob here, Flight Control update there 1 sec and then gone again
- Enda Scully
from BuddyFeed
Coffee, surging through / me like a raging river / hell bent on its course /// #haiku
Mark Traphagen liked this
Should FF have threaded comments? It's starting to get out of hand to try and reply to a specific comment.
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If it was easy to do right we'd have it already.
- Alex Scoble
or is it just that indenting gets out of hand after awhile?
- Laura Norvig
What Laura said.
- Christopher Harley
What if a mouse over the comment highlighted the comment it was in reply to?
- invariant - farewell FF
One of many previous discussions on flat vs multi-level threading http://friendfeed.com/acitran...
- Micah Wittman
yeah, it would be tough to do, I always hated trying to follow large threads in forums... there has to be a better way. With posts now getting 300-400 comments, we need a better way to manage/peruse them. @Micah .. glad to see that Bret Taylor liked that thread... wonder if they have anything in the works?
- Tim Hoeck
Tim, interesting observation. Lots of roll-outs happening. Maybe something will be in the next wave of features.
- Micah Wittman
I am definitely up for that. Currently it is very hard to track the conversation, if someone mentions your name or responds to your comment. Threaded comments would make it much easier.
- Marko Saric
invariant has a great idea. But only one level down, so we keep the flat comments.
- Roberto Bonini
I would like a 'reply' feature. From a dropdown on the comment icon we could select to 'reply' - whether this indents the comment or not I'm not sure but these 'replies' could then be displayed on a separate page like 'My Replies'.
- Kol Tregaskes
If comments were indented it should only be to 1 or 2 depth. I really wouldn't like to see the messy reddit-style on FF.
- Kol Tregaskes
I would still just like the ability to 'like' a certain comment
- Kim
I think threaded comments are messy. I see them on http://www.athleticsnation.com, a sports site I frequent, and it would be crazy here.
- Louis Gray
How FriendFeed Could Become the Ultimate Social Media Tracking Service - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
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"Hitler's Stealth Fighter" Re-created - http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news...
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"Top stealth-plane experts have re-created a radical, nearly forgotten Nazi aircraft: the Horten 2-29, a retro-futuristic fighter that arrived too late in World War II to make it into mass production. (See Hitler's stealth fighter in pictures.) The engineers' goal was to determine whether the so-called stealth fighter was truly radar resistant. In the process, they've uncovered new clues to just how close Nazi engineers were to unleashing a jet that some say could have changed the course of the war. To replicate the Ho 2-29 late last year for a documentary premiering Sunday, a team from the Northrop Grumman defense-contracting corporation used original Nazi blueprints (see re-created blueprints of Hitler's stealth fighter) and the only surviving Ho 2-29, which has been stored in a U.S. government facility for more than 50 years. The all-wing Ho 2-29 looked more like today's U.S. B-2 bomber (B-2 bomber picture)—or something from a Star Wars prequel—than like any other World War II...
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- RAPatton
Who is the German equivalent to John Travolta, Christian Slater and that chick from Super Mario Bros?
- Johnny Worthington
ain't it cool?
- Joe Silence is not dead
The videos on the NG site are well done, although they hype a bit as compared to the more measured accompanying text.
- Mark Traphagen
listening to "Kashmir - Led Zeppelin" - http://blip.fm/~9agqv
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heard that on the radio ... huge fan of that song too
- johnpiercy
There, I Fixed It. - http://thereifixedit.com/
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"Epic kludges + adventures in home pwnership"
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
from Bookmarklet
This blog's hilarious, it's DIY gone bad.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Reason #552 to Be on FriendFeed: Real-Time Search - http://staynalive.com/article...
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Odd that FriendFeed doesn't resize that
- Jesse Stay
NDF!
- Louis Gray
What does NDF mean?
- Jesse Stay
from email
no doubt fool
- Geoff Schultz
In that case, Louis, sush! :)
- Jesse Stay
from iPhone
You don't see the NDF, Jesse? Never Doubt FriendFeed?
- Louis Gray
Oh, in that case, don't shush :-)
- Jesse Stay
jlt-janet suggested I play around with some hair products, so I did. 1.) Pre-humiliation Jim. 2.) Stuck up Jim. 3.) Combover (or Satch) Jim 4.) Hannibal Lecter Jim. 5.) Winged Victory Jim and 6.) I Dunno What the Hell This Is Jim.
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Awesome!
- Laura Lou Who
+++++++ for Lecter!!
- Lindsey is Fierce!
You look a little bit like Spud from Trainspotting.
- Akiva Moskovitz
http://friendfeed.com/jvjanno... ... the post that launched my quest for more humiliation than ever before!
- Jim Hearts FF
ROFL
- Alex Scoble
Akiva, just wait til I get my next haircut!
- Jim Hearts FF
I'm waiting for Joy's comment on this post.
- Laura Lou Who
FUN!
- Admiral Anika
*dead* *dead* *dead*
- Derrick
lmao!!!!!! epic, Jim, epic!
- Carmen
This is so epic . . . can I like it twice?
- Lindsey is Fierce!
very funny. you're a character
- Cee Bee
this was done with 100% sincerity Cee Bee!!! *looks positively shocked*
- Jim Hearts FF
This *better* make Best of Day...just sayin'.
- Derrick
Number 3 could be The Pee-Wee
- Dave Roth
I love the Lecter look.
- Brent Smorgen Bleg
So far, this is in the middle of my Best of Day. *bump*
- Carmen
We really need to be able to like things more than once, but I'll settle for bumping with comments.
- Laura Lou Who
w00t! It's in my best of day! Congrats, Jimmy, my boy!
- Derrick
It finally made it into mine! Yay!
- Laura Lou Who
awesome.
- ♥patricia♥
Shameless bump. *bump*
- Laura Lou Who
Don't bump til you get enough! ;)
- Derrick
This is beyond awesome. This is now ∞awesome∞
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
HAAAAahahahahhahahahahaaa!!!!!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
+1,000,000 for the "American Pie" reference as well.
- Iain Baker
The Lecter one is good :-D
- Rick Cogley
Awesomeness!!! Combover reminds me of a 60's sitcom dad!
- Janet
Over half an hour without a comment? Awhellznaw!
- Laura Lou Who
I so totally need an "OMG LOVE!!!" link for Friendfeed.
- Ladybug Heather
Totally. Completely. EPIC. I felt like you were channeling Bruce Campbell in a couple of those.
- CAJ, somewhere else
So, which one is Looney Bin Jim?
- Steven Perez
all of them.
- Jim Hearts FF
from IM
@Steven I'm going to say No.5.
- Larry Hudson
*still laughing*
- Derrick
opened this again today just to get another chuckle. :)
- Kelly W.
Hahah I hurt myself laughing at the third one :D
- Mo Kargas
LOL! I can't believe I missed this one!
- Josh Haley
it's okay, Josh. I know you were busy preparing for your FFundercats MonsterCablePalooza that day.
- Jim Hearts FF
Your natural hair seems to work best with the ridiculous facial expressions :-)
- Slippy "WildBeard" Lane
This will never get old.
- Derrick
Slippy... ahem, you sound like my wife.
- Jim Hearts FF
"MonsterCablePalooza" ha ha ha. We did go a bit overboard. :p
- Josh Haley
bro, you swam the English Channel! [edit: but I still luvs me some FFundercats!]
- Jim Hearts FF
and never made it to the other side
- Josh Haley
Okay, so is it weird to say that this series of photos reminds me of Hank Azaria? (Also: can't wait to see him in Night at the Museum 2.)
- Ladybug Heather
yes. weird. :P
- Jim Hearts FF
Well, excuuuuuuuuuse me! :-) I like Hank Azaria. He's cute and hilariously funny. Will never forget him in Mystery Men. And he does, like, half the voices on the Simpsons.
- Ladybug Heather
see, when I think of Hank Azaria, I think of his one scene in Heat where Pacino questions him about his relationship with the character played by Ashley Judd. You should watch that scene, cause I'm not gonna repeat it here.
- Jim Hearts FF
Hmm.... don't think I've seen Heat, actually. I'll have to do some googling. :-)
- Ladybug Heather
Heh. Pleased to see these pix near the top of the feed again. O HAI, JIM!
- Laura Lou Who
Ha! How did I miss this??
- Michael McKean
It's time to bump this post. I need a laugh!
- Laura Lou Who
Boo. It doesn't bump to the top of the feed anymore. :(
- Laura Lou Who
#4 reminds me of Mr. Bean... he's always making that expression.
- Trish Haley
liked again :D
- WorldofHiglet
oh, Trish! Say it ain't so! I was fearing that someone would pick up the Mr. Bean connection. I've heard that before. Many, many times. "Et tu Haley? then fall Jannotti!"
- Jim Hearts FF
huh... my comment bumped it back up, not that I wanted it bumped. Wait! What?
- Jim Hearts FF
from IM
Wow, drama much Jim? For the record, you're way cuter than Mr. Bean...
- Trish Haley
LOL. Thank you Trish! You're sweet.
- Jim Hearts FF
How did I miss this the first go round?? Awesome.
- Yolanda
Yay! Glad it's circulating again! :)
- Laura Lou Who
love these pictures - so happy to see them
- martha
LMAO!
- vijay
I liked the first three, but could not see the last three. What's up with that. Su
- Susan M. McDonald
Whoa, Heather, I thought I was the only one reminded of Hank Azaria when I see pictures of Jim!
- Penguin It's Cold Outside
BUMP!
- Laura Lou Who
"I predict a return to blogging as people discover the power of being able to finish a thought" http://www.scripting.com/stories...
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I had thought blogging has been growing steadily, globally. Admittedly I don't have a good chart/stats for it.
- Mark Essel
I really like this statement - but will people return to blogging as we've known it?
- Tony
Are you perhaps over estimating the allure of thinking?
- Todd Hoff
Micro-blogging is good for idealets and infotainment, but it really is turning the web into a mindless medium like TV. Of course, there will always be the equivalent of PBS trying valiantly to raise the bar somewhat. Blogs will always have the possibility of transmitting real knowledge.
- Paul W. Homer
The interesting thing for me is I think we have lost the definition of what a blog is. Everybody jumped up and down about what Steve Rubel did, but really I see his change as a shift of platform. If he posted that same content on wordpress, nobody would have said a word. Just because he did it on posterous and called it a lifestream, people took issue with it. So, what is our definition then?
- Robert
I think Steve still has a weblog, he's just submitting posts to it in a "different" way. Like Dave's link says a weblog is "... a hierarchy of text, images, media objects and data, arranged chronologically, that can be viewed in an HTML browser." Pretty much sums it up, I think. Steve's post is going to generate attention, and debate, but in the end it's a weblog.
- Rob Fahrni
Robert, I know you're asking Dave a question, but I don't think the Posterious way goes against the definition. If I'm not mistaken Radio could post via e-mail, and I know Blogger supports this feature. Maybe I need to dig into Posterious a bit more but isn't that what it does?
- Rob Fahrni
Rob - That is my point. This in my mind is one of the major problems with looking for a "new name" for these social products. We see it as something different because it is called something different. Posterous, from what I can see so far, allows for the writer to interact with their "weblog" in a different way, just as you said...
- Robert
from email
Huh?
- Dave Winer
Dave - I think your "huh?" was towards me... We call Posterous a "life stream", I say it is a blog, that we have given a different name to. That is what I am saying.Rob - I agree with you 100%, and that is my point exactly. I keep reading these post about blogging being dead, or blogging being alive... but those that say they are not "blogging" are still "blogging" Maybe I am not making sense, but I hope I am...
- Robert
from email
Robert - Precisely! I think Posterious is trying to find a why to differentiate their product, so they've coined a new phrase. It's still a weblog, how the data arrives may be different, but it's just a weblog all the same. When I read Steve's story last night, from his new site, I thought I was going to find a link on it to something "new and innovative", then I realized I was AT the actualy site, his "life stream."
- Rob Fahrni
Robert - Right on!
- Rob Fahrni
Blogology is a still too young science, and definitio usually comes when plays are over. What I feel sad for is the lack of opportunity future literature and social behaviour experts will suffer not using post's content ( and graphics ) as sources for studying today's world zeitgeist. Borges prophecy is at work, few understands - too many doesn't even know what they're writing about: a...
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- valerio fiandra
from iPhone
Robert, the photo sharing site you've used recently is structurally a blog too. It differs from normal blog software mainly in that the chronology is by date of occurrence, not date of posting.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
It's funny that this sentence and a few lines from Anthony Trollope's autobiography should have crossed paths in my consciousness on the same day, since it's almost the same idea, thrown back two temporal orders of magnitude. Trollope tells of a correspondent, a vicar, who had enjoyed his clerical novels but was upset by Lady Glencors'a contemplation of adultery in the Pallisers series....
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- Amyloo
This is silly. Blogging isn't defined by the tool, it's defined by who's doing it. Read the piece I pointed to. I don't mean click on the link and hit the Back buttton, click the link and READ.
- Dave Winer
Agreed, Dave. Heck, we blogged back in the day via FTP uploads; that's what moved you towards developing "Edit This Page", in fact (IIRC).
- Ken Kennedy
This subject keeps coming back - blogging will never die.
- Jesse Stay
Before Web 1.0 we listened, conversed, collaborated and then we wrote. Writing was the synthesis of all the thinking that occurred in the first steps. In the new medium, the thinking process is the streams, both personal and community. Blogging is the synthesis of this new kind of community thought process.
- Joolio
Dave - haha! - that is awesome :D
- Susan Beebe
Pity there's no "Really, Really Like" button.
- Chris Baskind
Of course bloggin won't die, but you better have compelling content, because people have little tolerance for long articles.
- Todd Dewell
I think a large percentage of bloggers were really microbloggers, they just didn't have the correct apps to do that. The people that actually have something to say will keep blogging and those that just like to say something small or share something interesting will continue microblogging, or lifestreaming, or whatever variant you want to name it. Blogging is akin to publishing articles...
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- xero
This was known since the times of IRC: you can only have idle chatter or quick focused questions at that speed.
- Michele Costabile
Michele, if that premise is true, then kids only absorb important life-long lessons from their parent(s) when they're sat down for a full length lecture. No? :)
- Micah Wittman
The best food for thought always come in easily digestible chunks, however, sometimes you need to digest some larger/harder stuff to give you the ability to digest that chunk.
- xero
Agreed, well said, Xero.
- Micah Wittman
I thought completing a thought was the beauty of FriendFeed.
- Alan Eggleston
Microblogging is very much a product of the times, very ADD, very video-game-ish; so I agree strongly with the idea of longer.
- Rick Cogley
Just FYI, when I started Scripting News in 1997, it was entirely "microblogging" -- look in the archive. http://www.scripting.com/1997...
- Dave Winer
Dave - I very much appreciate you keeping up this fight. When I heard this past weekend the term "Lifestreaming", and seeing it picking up momentum. No, this has to stop. Twittering is an aside to your thoughts, or a highlight to pull people to your thoughts, if it's you only thoughts, you need put your head below the surface of your lifestream while carrying a big pile of rocks and...
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- Matthew DeVries
LOL, unfortunately, I don't think this problem exists just for blogging :)
- Armando & Cindee Edrosa
from iPhone
This isn't a fight. I love all this stuff. I was just saying what I think.
- Dave Winer
Even calling it a "Lifestream"? That's the creepiest sounding thing in tech, since Steve Balmer was threatening to "Squirt" his music onto my Zune.
- Matthew DeVries
Who really quit blogging? Even the most active lifestream addicts never really quit. For me, the blog is and has always been home. Everything else is somewhat ancillary, even when it's the first place I go. Critical thinking sometimes requires the depth of a written post.
- Ken Camp
Question: Of those of you out there who use posterous, do you use it as a replacement of your blog, a mirror of your blog or something different?
- Curt Mercadante
Ken - Rubel quit blogging.
- Matthew DeVries
One of the things I like about blogging is the ability to not finish a thought, not to try so hard to say all I have to say or say come to any definite conclusion in a single post. The unfinished thought is what encourages conversation. Let someone else add to your thought. Let others challenge your incomplete premise. I don't know everything, why pretend I do? My thoughts are never finished.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Wow, you're right Dave, scripting news was indeed VERY much a microblog. Interesting & thanks for pointing that out!
- Rick Cogley
Just last night, my sister sent out a vague tweet that made no sense to me out of context: http://twitter.com/awarnoc... So I suggested she blog about the topic so that readers like me would understand the context. http://twitter.com/awarnoc... http://zelzega.blogspot.com/2009...
- Peter Warnock
Just because you can finish a thought, doesn't mean people will read it.
- Will Higgins™
Tell me about it. That happened earlier in this very thread. But at least you ca read it yourself.
- Dave Winer
Just as your diary became your journal and then your log, your log has become your stream. The web has become your life..... AND SO IT WAS, that in the year naught-nine, the web-log was renamed to life-stream, dissected, and it's pieces scattered about the hundreds of "cloud" services, from which it could fall as raindrops of thought, pinging here and there in an attempt to spread ideas to where they were needed the most.
- Joel Bennett
No time to read it. Can you give us the gist of it in 140 characters or less? Thanks.
- Diego Barros
Here's a picture, even easier than 140 chars. http://tr.im/qrBb
- Dave Winer
Haha, love it!
- Rick Cogley
Love the idea!
- Sampad Swain
Come on, Dave. Where's your sense of humor?
- Diego Barros
Where's yours?
- Dave Winer
If you were joking, that's cool. I can take it. :) (I was joking, honest)
- Diego Barros
Me too. :-)
- Dave Winer
Blogging is still the platform of choice for sharing a clear/uninterrupted flow of thoughts from a single perspective. Then comments rapidly add value to the original post's material (most of the time). We're witnessing the link power of blogging decline because that functionality (which is monetizable) is moving to social media. We are left with the question, how best should bloggers monetize if they're losing link passing strength? I'm working that issue now by frankensteining several parts together
- Mark Essel
Personalized/Customized ads based on public user status. Semantic tools (via API), memory (local user profile database), and the passing of information to an ad aggregator will help produce custom (dynamic web matched) advertisements. It should serve all parties involved (social media, bloggers/front ends, semantic processing houses, and advertising aggregators).
- Mark Essel
What do you mean, I have always been able to finish a ... ooh a nice shiny object...
- Marcel de Jong
Isn't it ironic that this post contained a clear and concise thesis, in under 140 characters?
- Mike Chelen
Good point Mike...
- Mark Harai
There's NOTHING wrong with brevity. There is a time and a place for discussion and lengthy discourse.
- Will Higgins™
Mike Chelen - "a pretense of ignorance and of willingness to learn from another assumed in order to make the other's false conceptions conspicuous by adroit questioning ... the use of words to express something other than and especially the opposite of the literal meaning." - Nope, not ironic
- Matthew DeVries
Matthew DeVries: that covers definitions 1 and 2, yet the 3rd is an "incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result," where in this case the expected result was to explain how new platforms prevent thoughts from being finished, and the actual result was to the contrary :D
- Mike Chelen
If you say so. I never saw that definition, but I have no reason to doubt you, or motivation to find the source myself, so, I'll allow it.
- Matthew DeVries
aren't we all copying from the same online dictionary? http://www.merriam-webster.com/diction...
- Mike Chelen
No, I rattled mine out of something I memorized years ago.
- Matthew DeVries
wow, you got it perfectly word-for-word, remind me to pick you for my crossword puzzle team :)
- Mike Chelen
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