sheepishly looks - LPH™ and his dog P™

LPH, your post was about your frustration with real-time, which isn't what I'm talking about. - Trish R

Word. I'm so sick and tired of the whinefest of this. 97% of the time, I had never even heard of those people before they posted no one's paying attention to them. Go look at their stats and their feeds are mostly just dumps, hardly any comments or likes. Even more aggravating? The people who signed up like 3 days ago. The post to Twitter, "I don't get FF, it's sucks." And then you look at who they're subbed to and most them are dumpers too. - Admiral Anika

@LPH why? - Amir

I've felt terrible for 2 days and asked on here if the idea of FF is dead - I've since started to hide twitter replies and the home view is finally starting to "feel" like the old FF -- Yep Trish - I knew that - I was just making sure I wasn't being negative :) - LPH™ and his dog P™

It's getting ridiculous. Make your own experience, don't expect others to make it for you. LPH, I have done the same thing. I was also frustrated with real-time and finally created a separate list for people who just dump their Twitter feed here and don't interact or participate. It helped my frustration level a LOT. - Trish R

I've dedicated myself to making better comments on other people's entries - even with my current interaction level - so expect some more "It's more fun with your arms up like this" from me ;) - LPH™ and his dog P™

LOL. I was referring to the "woe is me" posts where people are continually posting "NO ONE EVER COMMENTS ON MY FEED, WHY DOESN'T ANYONE LIKE ME AND WHY CAN'T I BE POPULAR BOO HOO HOO!" - Trish R

"... I post really COOL stuff, but why don't you people realize it." - Ken Sheppardson

Trish - yep - I was just thinking out loud. TOL is dangerous ;) - LPH™ and his dog P™

agreed trish, they are time wasters - i usually unsub from them and if they keep popping up via foaf they get poofed (blocked) - there's no whining in ff ;) - mike "glemak" dunn

If one only has X minutes every few days to spend on FriendFeed, I'll bet the most satisfying way to use it would be to just set up some saved searches for topics that are central to what you do off-FriendFeed, and just Like and comment on those to promote them. Not *your* entries, other peoples' entries. Everything else sort of flows from there. - Ken Sheppardson

agreed ken - saved searches are very powerful, i use them to find new folks to sub to as well - mike "glemak" dunn

Ken, is there a room for suggested searches? - LPH™ and his dog P™

Akiva and Alex Scoble HATE me! *sob* - Mike Nayyar

Well - Call me shiftless - there is a room for saved searches - http://friendfeed.com/ffss - LPH™ and his dog P™

nice lph - thanks for finding that :) - mike "glemak" dunn

I've got my fingers crossed hoping that the next major feature FF rolls out is real time Saved Searches... and for you non-real-timers ;-)... notifications on saved searches. Once you can choose to be notified by email, IM, or the FF desktop notifier when a new entry shows up that matches a saved search, we're going to see another shift in the way people use FriendFeed on the same scale as the intro of real timeiness :-) - Ken Sheppardson

There's not enough smart conversation, there's not enough fun conversation, there's too much Twitter, there's not enough Twitter people, there's too much information, there's too little information, too much in main feed, too much hidden in groups, just A-listers, just unknowns, too much being imported, not enough being imported. AAAAHHHHHH! - Eric @ CSTechcast.com

Eric: Deep breaths. - Ken Sheppardson

Speaking to the initial post: You're absolutely right. Someone last night mentioned that the length of conversations were getting short yet over that past year I've seldom seen this person comment on or like any of my posts. I held my comments. - Christopher Harley

I just think people should use FF however they want and stop worrying about doing it wrong or trying to find ways to get the feedback they want. Isn't it like anything else? We're all different, don't compare yourself to anyone else and you'll be much happier. - Trish R

^WORD^ I see the self-important announcing that they're blocking this service or that. Which makes the insecure worry, "Should I even import this service since people are blocking it?" Pfffft. Block away. Chances are if you block all Twitter imports I'll never have to deal with your stupid comments anyway. That makes *me* happy. - Admiral Anika

What Abby said... :) - JA Castillo

Anika: As one of the people who hides Twitter stuff unless they have Comments/likes and who suggests that as something people should try if they feel overwhelmed... should I take that personally? :-) - Ken Sheppardson

Sure, Ken. Go ahead. :) I offend all kinds of people by saying what I feel. I lack tact and diplomacy for the most part. To know me, is to love me. - Admiral Anika

Pours Trish a Jack and Coke. *cheers* - Derrick

::stands up and claps:: - David Cook

Anika: Cool. I will then. ;-) In my defense... :-) ... I say when in doubt, import everything, and let people use lists, groups, and searches to try to work the stream down to something manageable. I guess when you mix trying to offer suggestions with the fact that I'm not a Twitter fan, it could come across as self-important. Hm. - Ken Sheppardson

Mark: Buh bye. - Trish R

Also, if someone complains that a service lacks quality content, then it is up to him/her to push some quality content if he/she is the one to tell what is "quality" in the first place. - Jemm

*fistbump* Jemm. - Admiral Anika

i hope this message manages to get to the people who usually aren't commenting or liking these threads. the ones who have are the ones who seem to understand this service. weirds me out when i read people's comments on twitter on how they don't understand what purpose friendfeed serves. these are the same kind of people who label themselves "marketing/social media experts" too! - Cee Bee

Wow - You.

try visiting the friendfeed feeback room -- it's flooded with requests from people who don't seem to grab the full potential of friendfeed. i get the feeling that many see this site in a rather narrow kind of way and demand all kinds of things from it that already exist or that are superfluous to the service itself - Cee Bee

The more we strive to catch the attention the more elusive it gets. It is like a shadow that follows in the light of knowledge. - ashish

@Christopher - I am guessing that the person you were referring to is me, and if that's the case as far as the lack of commenting and liking stuff in your feed it probably has to do exactly with the problem I was trying to point out from the other side, ie that MY attention allotment for your feed is significantly less than it was before RT and the Twitter influx and therefore I'm just not as aware of your posts to like/comment on them. It's nothing personal, and I don't think the FF community ignoring me out of spite, but rather it's a result of the lack of my ability to get as much activity in my feed with the same amount of effort I used to expend. I preferred it when there was less competition for my attention and my subscriber's attention because I had better conversations then. I think that's a valid thing to be sad about even if it may lump me in the category of whiner. I just don't have the extra time to devote to FF to bump up my efforts in posting and commenting and I can only see FF getting less personal and social for me as it grows. I know that for some people that only makes FF better, but it doesn't for me. I also know that change is inevitable and I will just have to deal with it and reevaluate the value FF brings to me as things keep changing (ie, eventually it may no longer be worth my time because it doesn't provide me with the conversation level/effort ratio I am comfortable with). Sorry if my opinion offended you. - Fa La La La Lindsay

Great advice, you get back from a community what you put in--look at Derrick! - susan mernit

*looks at Derrick* - Trish R

Derrick is trying to get his rib on at the moment. - Alex Scoble

Ken, I agree with you 100%. That's not to say I don't block services, I do. But my original point was more to those who feel the need to announce they're blocking the service and those who feel insecure because one person said it = everyone is doing it. And as I said, if everyone was blocking my Seesmic videos or whatever, I don't care. I've only done 2 Seesmic videos for someone on FF. All the other ones are people who actively use Seesmic. - Admiral Anika

I love you, Trish. That is all. - DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE

Yea but in all honesty I comment on a lot of posts try to interact but my feed usually remains untouched. It is no big deal to me anymore, but it really just a popularity contest around here IMO. It's fine though for me. - orionstarr

What Trish said. - Steven Perez

U don't like it, leave. - orionstarr

Susan! Good to see you, sugar. :) And yeah, I got my bbq on. Looking for Tums right now. - Derrick

You go gurl!!! - kooder

I hear ya. I can't see how people take these services so seriously. If ones time is really that precious then I'd imagine they wouldn't be social networking to begin with. Tender ego's I'm guessing. - Adi

This should be in the Terms of Use. After which it should rwad, "then go hell aka Twitter" - sofarsoShawn