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Javascript power to weight ratio. What's yours? Click here, wait for the result and divide it by your device weight in kilos. E.g the Aigo MID with ff3.0 scores 18 which, with 0.35kg gives a jp/w of 51.4 http://bit.ly/v8v3benchmark - http://code.google.com/apis...
Oliver Maruhn, Warner Crocker, jean-paul and Rodfather liked this
Aigo MID with ff3.0 = 18/0.35 = 51.4
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
Everun Note with ff3.0 = 38/0.75 = 50.6
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
Wibrain b1h with ff3.0 = 37/0.53 = 69
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
Everun Note with Chrome 0.3 = 408/0.8 = 510 Chrome shines!
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
Gigabyte M912 Netbook with FF3.0 = 56 / 1.35 = 42
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
M912 with Chrome = 432 / 1.35 = 320
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
Everun (original) with ff3.0 = 19/0.5 = 38
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
Everun (original) with Chrome = 126 / 0.5 = 252
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
Archos 605 with Opera = 2 / 0.2 = 10
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
Fujitsu u1010 with Chrome 0.3 = 580 / 0.8 = 725
- jean-paul
Asus Eee PC 1000H (with 2GB CAS4 RAM) - ff3.0: 63/1.45=43.4 Chrome: 467/1.45=322
- Rodfather
Looks like Fuji U2010 would be the ultimate!!!
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
Really? I thought Silverthorne processors were slower?
- Rodfather
Can someone run this on an iPhone for me?
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
I just tried a few times to run this on my iPhone 3G 16GB. First time, it hung Safari. Second time, fresh after a reboot, it never completed, even though I let it run for about 10 minutes. Both times, it. Got to 57% complete, and the scores were: Richards 2, DeltaBlue 2, Crypto 5. Hope that helps, let me know if you want me to run it again! :-)
- Josh Bancroft
first run on my iPaq 614c with PocketIE : same as Josh - got to 57%, then 71% then device hanged ... Second try with Netfront 3.5 : stopped at 43% .. Third shot with Opera 9.5beta: completed ! score: 8 / .145 = 55 :)))
- jean-paul
it hung on an S60 phone for me in the same place. Good to know that Opera completes the task although for some reason, their browsers always seem to be poor at Javascript.
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
Aigo MID with FF3.1 = 23/0.35 = 65
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
iPaq 614c with Skyfire : 107/.145 = 737 !!
- jean-paul
Still haven been able to test Skyfire to see how well ajax works and how the latency is. I guess I could RDP to my server at home and get a similar 1000+ result though ;-) I'll post why I dont like the proxy solutions soon.
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
N800 for shits and giggles: 3/0,206 = 14,6. funny enough it wondered if i wanted to kill the javascript around step 3 or 4.
- turn.self.off
and now multiply the figure by the online battery life of your device and you have an index of internet mobility. Mmmm. Maybe im on to something here!
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
remind me, that archos is using cortex, yes? got to be somewhat bothersome that the older N800 scored as much as it did. or maybe that say something about the microb javascript, even before any kind of optimization...
- turn.self.off
The archos 605 is the old one. Not Cortex bassed but Opera, while accurate, isnt the best at javascript. I will contact Jenn to see if i can get a result from her.
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
ah yes, i got my numbers crossed. that makes a bit more sense. and i recall having issues with javascript (to the point i left it off most of the time) back on my 770. but then that was also a weaker device then the N800, so...
- turn.self.off
Wibrain i1 with ff3 = 47/0.51 = 92
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
Wibrain i1 with Chrome 1.0. = 514 / 0.51 = 1007 A NEW RECORD!
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
Fujitsu Loox U/B50n 1.6ghz with ff3 = 53 / 0.58 = 91
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
Fujitsu Loox U/B50n 1.6ghz with chrome v1.0154 = 395 / 0.58 = 681 (looks like latest chrome is slower!)
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
tried tear just now, on the old N800, interestingly enough that got me, 18,8 / 0.206 = 87,38! what a difference that is compared to the microb test i did some time ago...
- turn.self.off
Don't forget to use v3 of the benchmark http://bit.ly/v8v3benchmark
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
from Android
Archos 5 Android. ARM Cortex at 800mhz = 46.3 / .189 = 239
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
from Android
Has anyone got and 800mhz Intel MID that thet can test with FF3.5? iPhone 3gs and Droid would be interesting too.
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
from Android
Gigabyte T1028M at 1.6ghz. Chrome 3. = 734 / 1.46 = 489
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
Gigabyte T1028M at 800Mhz. Chrome 3. = 380 / 1.46 = 260
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
One other (actually more important) javascript benchmark is here: http://www2.webkit.org/perf...
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
...and here are some benchmarks to get us started. (Maybe I should start a new thread for SunSpider!) http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL...
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
re-test (with v3 of the test) Fujitsu U820 1.6Ghz Chrome 3.0 - 779 / .55 = 1416 New winner!
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
Fujitsu u1010 - debian r5 - chrome 4.0.223.11 - 921 / .8 = 1151,25 :)
- jean-paul
Fujitsu U820 1.6ghz with Chrome 4.0.223.16 879 / .55 = 1598
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
Interesting that a chrome OS on a Menlow platform would be the most powerful combo for a web-app-focused tablet device.
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
Modded UX280 scored 2130 on the test and weighs .725kg = 2937 (running latest stable Chrome)
- Ben L.
How modded is the ux280 ben?
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
iPhone 3gs with safari 61/0.135 = 452
- Paul Graham
from iPhone
Confirms the 3gs as the most powerful javascript engine on a smartphone.
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
Kohjinsha SC3 standard, Vista and Chrome 422/0.798 = 529
- Paul Graham
eking s515, chrome 3.0.195 on win7 527 / 447 = 1178
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
HTC Touch Pro2 with Opera Mobile 9.5: 5.47 / 0.1785 = 30.6
- Oliver Maruhn
HTC Touch Pro2 with Dorothy Browser 0.2.2 (Webkit): 16.6 / 0.1785 = 93
- Oliver Maruhn
eking s515 1.2ghz. Chrome 3.0.195 on xp 598/0.45=1317
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
why the Apple iPhones caused the Nobel Prize for Barack Obama. I always knew it! #obama #nobelprize #iphone
lets just say i highly agree that the award was premature. Still, connecting palin with iphone? pure genius!
- turn.self.off
not sure whats going on here, the first two is two kinds of writes, the third is a rewrite, and the last two is two kinds of read. the read speeds on the netwalker is confusing. btw, the chart is in kilobytes pr second.
oh, benchmark used is bonnie++ on ubuntu linux
- turn.self.off
so eee900 gets 25/5 read/write vs netwalker 7/15 .. weird..
- jkkmobile
the eee900's 25/5 at least seems consistent with the benchmark you did in the windows xp version at one time.
- turn.self.off
Which 900 u have? the slowest with one 16GB SSD?
- jkkmobile
it was 30/8 on my test... ( 16gb one ) older one was 30/13
- jkkmobile
its a single 16GB SSD in there, beyond that i am not sure.
- turn.self.off
ok.. so it should be 30/8 .. like u said, similar what your test is showing..
- jkkmobile
so netwalker would be about 7/15 read/write.. which is really slow.. but i have no ide how Ubuntu for ARM uses it...
- jkkmobile
i think this may be the first time i have seen a ssd thats faster on write then on read ;)
- turn.self.off
btw, android supposedly has a built in benchmarking tool, called droidbench. not sure how to access it tho...
- turn.self.off
For the record, tests were done on my Sharp NetWalker and T.S.O's Eee 900 16G, both running Ubuntu ( Eee 900 has Ubuntu x86 build, NetWalker has Ubuntu for ARM )
- jkkmobile
@jkkmobile ah yes, i was meaning to ask, could you run this on the netwalker? http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips...
SSD test results on Sharp Netwalker: Version 1.03c ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Random- -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seeks-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec %CP sharp 1G 2415 39 15216 13 4808 33 1723 51 7670 58 320.5 64 ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create-------- -Create-- --Read---...
more...
- jkkmobile
how does it compare to your Eee 900?
- jkkmobile
rerunning it now to compare
- turn.self.off
the seek time on that netwalker is just nuts, 320 seconds!
- turn.self.off
in comparison the 900 is giving me a seek time of 47 seconds...
- turn.self.off
uuuuh..
- jkkmobile
err no wait, i was reading that wrong, sorry :(
- turn.self.off
hrmf, the seek seems to tax the cpu a fair bit more on the netwalker, as its percentage hits 64%, while the 900 is showing 1%
- turn.self.off
That's quite a lot...
- jkkmobile
Could you separate normal read/write from the result and compare to 900? a graph even?
- jkkmobile
could this test run on android too? ..32gb a5 it coming here..
- jkkmobile
only if one can access the commandline and install it...
- turn.self.off
best i can tell so far is that the netwalker is oddly slow on read. while comparable to the 900 on write.
- turn.self.off
Oh sweet. Archos 5 IT. 4.8" 800x480 FTW. This is an awesome looking gadget. First web page loads were fast too! (continues on FF)
Rodfather liked this
DOwnloading new firmware... 1.02
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
I can't get over how fricking thin it is. Fingerprint magnet (of course)
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
Just fits perfectly in the hand in portrait mode. This could make an awesome e-book reader.
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
H.264 playback. Check. Divx, check. MKV recognised (contains an AC3 channel which the IT doesnt play out of the box (costs extra for the plugin), same for WMVHD (same plugin though) WMV (VGA) Check, H.264 720p, check.
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
Nice
- Rodfather
Did it come with any of the docks?
- Rodfather
No dock included unfortunately. Usging full fat ff page right now and its fast.
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
sounds really promising. found any android apps to install, to test the compatibility with the large screen? oh, and i see the usual onscreen keyboard issue...
- turn.self.off
finally mobile devices. They are showing the Umid M1 with Windows 7 right now
Rodfather liked this
now they are showing a little performance race between a netbook and a laptop by copying pictures on both platforms. of course the laptop outperforms the netbook. they should use my nc10 with the Runcore SSD, it would kick the hell outta this notebook when performing this operation ;)
- Sascha Pallenberg
i like how intel is talking about ecosystems and syncing all the different devices we use
- Sascha Pallenberg
i am surprised that syncing is still a issue...
- turn.self.off
Moblin V2.1 for handhelds is there! this is awesome!
Rodfather liked this
for menlow or moorestown? or both?
- jkkmobile
watch out Android and iPhone OS. Moblin V2.1 for handhelds will be big and important!
- Sascha Pallenberg
for both JKK!
- Sascha Pallenberg
kinda funny, nokia and intel colaborating on software (ofono, hildon) but seems to indirectly compete on hardware
- turn.self.off
first impressions from the keynote ballroom at #idf09 - 5 mins before it's starting.. the wifi sucks, so expect our picture some later
not surprised, probably one AP for the whole room maybe even building...
- turn.self.off
Viliv S7 in customs since Saturday. Needs to be cleared today otherwise the live convertible umpc session will have to be delayed.
Call them...
- jkkmobile
That will be fun and productive in Germany ;-)
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
yours is with you today jkk.
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
yep, 12:50 Helsinki - Finland With delivery courier
- jkkmobile
I have no idea why DHL chose to stop mine. They want a customs number form me now. I've sent all information to them but it doesn't look like it gets here before Wednesday. Have fun with unboxing!
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
Oh man... Call and shout!
- jkkmobile
i have already called them. 6 phone numbers to try and get it sorted!
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
ah, the insanity that is customs. mostly its some overworked shipping clerk that gets the paperwork backwards, rather then the customs office directly that the problem.
- turn.self.off
@jkkmobile "Delivery attempted; recipient not home" Go get it bro. (Viliv S7)
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
yep, just shouted to them on phone... will get it in 1 hour
- jkkmobile
Heads up Apple, the Intel Netbook is unstoppable - http://news.cnet.com/8301-13...
the comments are kinda funny, as i know people have used the N800/N810 for the exact same reasons thats being used in favor of the "i-pads".
- turn.self.off
Blogger block. Time to mess with some hardware. Runcore Pro IV SSD in a Kohjinsha SK3 this afternoon perhaps?
wish i had the cash to do random stuff like that :)
- turn.self.off
RT @WidnesCLC: Attack of the UMPC's!!!!!! http://twitpic.com/dq6my Me: Name the device. HP Mini?
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that bright spot below the screen confuses me...
- turn.self.off
Linux Netbook high return rate is a a myth says Dell! Finally a global player stands up and clears up this MS marketing spin! http://www.osnews.com/story...
Rodfather liked this
quick guess is that the return rate is higher, if sold over the counter by clueless sales people...
- turn.self.off
If Moblin is for existing netbook and Moorestown platforms, Pinetrail won't break compatibility surely. Pinetrail likely to be a variant of Moorestown?
No one knows the GPU core on Moorestown or PineTrail yet.
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
if done right, pinetail will be a superset of moorestown. And in any case, the moblin interface is clutter based, right? So its using opengl to accelerate 2D. And even older intel onboard gpu (if one can call them that) should be able to handle it, in theory.
- turn.self.off
119% of the europeans own a mobile phone (only 80% of the US-Americans do). Also way ahead of the US in terms of highspeed internet connections. "Europe can advance even further as a generation of "digitally savvy" young Europeans becomes a strong market driver for growth and innovation."...
makes one wonder about scobles recent rant about europeans being stuck on sms...
- turn.self.off
i can't agree more with you :) Maybe he is still traumatized because of these Motorola analogue phones they had in the 90s. No seriously he is a nice fella and he just got some subjective impressions out.
- Sascha Pallenberg
Croatia: 4.47M people, 5.2M cellphones. 7.2 Mbps connection in most cities. US - 3G works in San Fran like EDGE on the Adriatic coast :(
- Theo Valich
@theovalich i can't agree more with you. 3G in the US just sucks big time.Well it's a matter of the distances and the infrastructure. Germany has a pretty good HSUPA coverage, too (i love good upload bandwidth!). Here in Taipei the 3G is something in between the US and European bandwidths. Not bad but also not great
- Sascha Pallenberg
Runcore Pro IV PATA 1.8" doesnt work on the Fujitsu U820. Works on the Clevo TN70M. Probably on the SK3 too.
uuuh.. Brett tested some others too..no worky.. it's wierd.. anyone got any SSD to work with U820?
- jkkmobile
@chippy err, if i'm looking at the right product, they claim it should be u820 compatible: http://bit.ly/gdEnH
- turn.self.off
There is one that works on the U820 (Mtron ZIF2.) Ill speak to Runcore about the claims TSO.
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
Ice-T is into modding too ;) http://gizmodo.com/5332727...
heh, i wonder if the extended warranty covers that...
- turn.self.off
Dell Mini 9 default SSD vs Runcore SSD - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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if only i could afford to stuff something like that in my 900
- turn.self.off
twitter is down. It's the perfect time for a ff chat. What are you doing now?
poking at some books i just got and checking the techmeme river...
- turn.self.off
ah the techmeme river. Usually a good choice.
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
Listening Madonna .. live.. her concert is 500 meters from my home..
- jkkmobile
oh nice! THe Real Madonna?
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
yep, the real one ;) .. stage is where the cruise bouts leave ( if u remember ).. some 85000 ppl there..
- jkkmobile
Cool. Enjoy the evening!
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
Gf is there.. i'm with kids ..
- jkkmobile
oh an evening in!
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
woot, the twetwe bird is back ;)
never mind, its gone again...
- turn.self.off
Twitter might be down, but at least he status page is up. http://status.twitter.com/ Then again, it doesn't offer any status updates since July 28th. ;)
phil baumann liked this
Time to dust off friendfeed I guess, take a good fail whale to get me over here!
- Darren
Yes!! Twitter is down dude :(
- Binoy xavier joy
seems to have a 16min old entry now...
- turn.self.off
have twitter gone belly up?
yep, apparently so. memo to self, read log first, post later...
- turn.self.off
Typhoon warning for Taiwan.After having an earthquake yesterday, we will have a nice little typhoon this weekend: http://www.cwb.gov.tw/V6e/
all batteries charged?
- turn.self.off
i am still working on it. I have one advantage, which is half a dozen netbook samples. Recharging them all, now. :)
- Sascha Pallenberg
More proof that smartphones have just as much trouble with battery life as MIDs and UMPCs. It's the usage, stupid! http://jkontherun.com/2009...
Heh, tell me about it.. Wait my video of Nokia N97 on full use.. My netbooks and UMPCs gets better battery life.
- jkkmobile
Power:Weight ratio is worth talking about though. How much can you get done per kilo? Me: I'm all for carrying a bigger device for smooth, efficient experience. 400gm UMPC perhaps?
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
continual two device, phone/mid/laptop, and a external battery ;)
- turn.self.off
I think my thesis that Twitter does practically nothing right can be shown by them doing a maintenance in the middle of a conference that exists solely to give them a big reach-around. Nicely done! Time to mark off "Create a cluster fuck" on the to-do list. I'm curious what is being said in the room.
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Me personally, I might have waited until later tonight or at least until the #140conf hash tag died down a little bit before doing this, but I don't have the Twitter decision making pizzazz.
- Dave Slusher
I'm picturing a bunch of Twitter dorks sitting in a room madly refreshing their iPhones and laptops in dead silence.
- Paul Reynolds
Rare that I jump to their defence, but for once it isn't Twitter, it's their data centre host pushing out some required (and long overdue, apparently) upgrades. http://blog.twitter.com/2009... If they don't do that then we will probably be in for an extended period of Fail Whale...
- Andy Bold
Besides, paying someone to do "maintenance" in the middle of the night costs money (just like infrastructure and technology improvements)! They'd never be able to milk VC dollars until retirement age with that type of thinking.
- Paul Reynolds
given how the net never sleeps, there will in theory never be a right time to take down a service of global reach for maintenance...
- turn.self.off
I don't think other parts of the globe were having a "We love Twitter" conference like New York City was, were they?
- Dave Slusher
Every web site/app (even worldwide ones) has a cyclical pattern of traffic. Given the patterns I've seen, I can't imagine ANY pattern that has the middle of the afternoon in the US as being the low point of that cycle. Doing production pushes during peak business hours has never been an option at any of the places I've worked and I've worked a LOT of places.
- J Wynia
They didn't say what the specific reconfiguration was (and I would not expect them to), but I am kindof surprised that anything NTT America needs to do would render the site completely unreachable for so long. You mean twitter didn't already have multiple redundant connections to the net? Or that it couldn't be staged so as to leave at least one of the connections up at each stage of the process?
- DGentry
There's the key point. This service that is trying to be crucial infrastructure and that has received buckets of VC cash all lives inside a single data center? Seems like bad form, bad planning, bad decision making to me. It's not so much that Twitter does this thing or that thing wrong, it's that management has a long term history of bone headedness and poor planning. This isn't an occurrence of an event, it's the way they do business.
- Dave Slusher
Hanging with Lisa from Viliv ... eh, testing S5 and S7..
Rodfather liked this
hehe, you better hope someone back home do not read that ;)
- turn.self.off
Picture proof.....http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
Just look how happy he looks!!!! with the cute oriental girl :)
- Joao de Oliveira(BassoPT)
Are you enslaved by your mobile device? Take this test! - http://vanelsas.wordpress.com/2009...
Danielle Closs, Arthur Guy, Nicholas Martini and 21 other people liked this
damn... 11? I'm a serious addict
- Jeffrey Canton
Only an 8; I'm good to go :)
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
According to my score, I'm beyond saving.
- Kevin C. Tofel
I don't even need to take the test. I take it from room to room...
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Scored 9 here. Yeesh.
- Jared Smith
Oops! 10..
- Peter
stopped counting after some 5-6. i wonder tho, does it multiply by the number of devices, as i would say this applies for my phone and my N800 equally...
- turn.self.off
clearly no but then I don't use it for email, don't use it for music (dont use mobile music anymore, cuts me off from people and i like people better). My ringtone is low so I can ignore it if concentrated or in a discussion with someone. I did answer yes to #1 though, as someone looking for a job I dont like to forget my phone. I can easily not check my email for hours, or the net - and I could even when working as a CTO/CIO :D
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
That's not fair! It's on my bedside table but that's because it's my alarm clock. Pay no attention to the fact that I answered yes to every other question. :-| Hi. My name is Lisa. I'm an addict.
- Lisa L. Seifert
I'm a 7 but I could give it up any minute. Honestly. Just not right now...
- Gaby K. Slezák
test did not show up on my mobile, sry
- MLx
Scary isn't it? Time for a change I'd say.
- Alexander van Elsas
that's just bad... I scored like 11/12.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
does it count that I have my blackberry in holster, but flip it out as soon as it buzzes, no matter what else I'm doing?
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Aaman, no... just going on telling yourself everything is alright ;-) I keep stumbling across this article on Pavlovian response, and can't seem to shake this weird feeling when I read it ;-)
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
I bet that if we tried we could define at least 10-20 more situations of awkward mobile behavior :-)
- Alexander van Elsas
For me yes to eight of them but in some cases the answer is naturally no for an addict ;-)
- Richard A.
Was there ever a question?
- Janet Fouts
Yup... I am addicted to it. We all need help.
- Jose
I am now that I have I-phone...
- orionstarr
Hi, my name is Dave and I am a Crackberry addict. Although I want to go across the hall to the join to Android addicts group soon.
- David Silvernail
I'm a Yes to all of them...IPhone..what can i say!
- Nicholas Martini
I wish I was, but my phone isn't exactly new enough, nor have the service, to be enslaved to. I think if I had a newer phone, and better service, I would be.
- Danielle Closs
Now Mobilx have UMID placeholders. This time with HSDPA. But only 512MB RAM. Should be OK for most mobile operations though. - http://www.mobilx.hu/mobile-...
zigcla liked this
now thats something. i wonder what the price will be. given its HSDPA, not below $500 i suspect tho...
- turn.self.off
my guess...about 700 euros. It will be 'in the zone' for me if quality is good. ssd, is fast, battery life is over 3hrs. 1.3ghz, fast ssd and xp, bring it on!
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
skype should have a chat-only web application.
Rodfather liked this
or better yet, make use of existing tech like xmpp and SIP, so that people where not dependent on having skypes own client to use their services. but then it would be "easier" for the users to jump ship i guess...
- turn.self.off
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