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The small screen gets larger everyday. Scrub those listings and let us know - what keeps you from reaching for the remote?
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Game of Thrones, Oathkeeper, White Walkers, and Why Book Readers Shouldn't Be Too Worried | Vanity Fair -
Game of Thrones, Oathkeeper, White Walkers, and Why Book Readers Shouldn't Be Too Worried | Vanity Fair
"Something massive happened inside the plot tonight of Game of Thrones, but that’s not the real game changer. The real game changer is that for the first time, in a truly significant way, the book readers were as surprised as the show watchers. That’s right, the reign of the smug book reader is over. Or, at least, it’s on temporary hiatus." - Bluesun 2600 from Bookmarklet
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This Accidental Game Of Thrones Spoiler Just. Changed. Everything. -
This Accidental Game Of Thrones Spoiler Just. Changed. Everything.
"Did you watch Game of Thrones on HBO Go last night? Then you may have gotten a surprise bit of information that is so monumentally huge, it's not just a spoiler for the show but it's possibly a spoiler for the A Song of Ice and Fire books as well. CONTINUE AT YOUR OWN RISK." - Bluesun 2600 from Bookmarklet
Andrew C (✔)
How the Upright Citizens Brigade Conquered TV in 2014 | Complex -
How the Upright Citizens Brigade Conquered TV in 2014 | Complex
"If you're a massive comedy fan, there's a solid chance that the vast majority of the talents you're currently quoting, DVRing, and retweeting got their start at UCB--either in New York or in L.A. And if you're of the opinion that someone's simply either born funny or not, that comedy isn't something that can be taught or learned, let me sway your opinion with exhibit A: the near unfathomable success rate of this bi-coastal improv and sketch institution." - Andrew C (✔) from Bookmarklet
SNL, Parks and Rec, Broad City, Key & Peele, Kroll Show, Veep, House of Lies, Childrens Hospital, etc... (edit: just realized this piece didn't even mention the upcoming Playing House, created and run by two more UCBers and with more UCBers among the cast and writers.) - Andrew C (✔)
I wonder what a timeline graph of various companies' dominance would look like: Groundlings, Second City, IO, UCB, etc. - Spidra Webster
That said, I think people of Tina Fey's generation -- besides the UCB 4 -- are more properly considered from iO or Second City. - Andrew C (✔)
I'm not sure about Groundlings, but for the rest, my vague sense is that Second City was first, and then the second wave of Second City "vets" really came up at IO first and got to the Second City mainstage after that... (Then again, Mick Napier, founder of the Annoyance in Chicago and a SC bigwig, has written that no one school in Chicago is sufficient: not SC, not IO, and not even his... more... - Andrew C (✔)
Andrew C (✔)
Can't remember where I saw it, but someone said Mads Mikkelsen as Hannibal Lecter vs Anthony Hopkins is like Heath Ledger vs Jack Nicholson as the Joker.
Andrew C (✔)
How I Met Your Aunt: A Bizarre Ending for How I Met Your Mother - Megan Garber - The Atlantic -
How I Met Your Aunt: A Bizarre Ending for How I Met Your Mother - Megan Garber - The Atlantic
"Most shows define their social universes geographically: They are populated by people whom circumstance has thrown together, physically. The throwing could take place in a bar (Cheers), in a coffee shop (Friends), in an apartment (New Girl), in an office (The Office), at a taxi dispatch service (Taxi), at a TV studio (30 Rock), or, of course, in a house (pretty much every other sitcom ever). Regardless, in the social--and, you could say, moral--cosmology of the typical sitcom, it is spatial connection that leads to social connection." - Andrew C (✔) from Bookmarklet
"In part, these physical spaces are plot devices that explain to audiences why this small group of people seems to be always together, and always so insulated in their togetherness. [...] They allow the audience to suspend disbelief. They sacrifice the inevitable frictions of real-world social relationships--the vagaries of distance, the misalignments of schedules--at the altar of sitcomic convenience. " - Andrew C (✔)
"But what those constraints amount to, ultimately, are shows that embrace an eponymous approach to family itself: According to the most basic logic of the sitcom, one's family is "the group of people that situation has thrown together, comedically."" - Andrew C (✔)
"So HIMYM, despite and maybe because of its insistence that friend and family cannot be--and should not be--distinguished from one another, ended up embracing one of the most regressive assumptions a story can make: that anyone outside its sphere of influence is, ultimately, expendable. The show rejected the structure of friendships as most of us experience them--as rich, fluid networks populated by varied universes of people--in favor of something narrower. And just a tiny bit xenophobic. " - Andrew C (✔)
Andrew C (✔)
David Letterman Announces Retirement -- Vulture -
David Letterman Announces Retirement -- Vulture
"David Letterman announced today, at a taping of Late Show, that he will be retiring. [...] Last October, Letterman extended his contract with CBS through 2015. After 32 years (11 at Late Night and 21 at Late Show), Letterman has the record for longest working late-night host in TV history. " (and there's an official statement at the link) - Andrew C (✔) from Bookmarklet
Andrew C (✔)
Series finale review: 'How I Met Your Mother' - 'Last Forever': How they conned us all -
(Page 2) "But [the showrunners Carter and Bays] were bound by the rules they had made for themselves. They had a plan. They had to stick to that plan. And the result of that plan was among the more maddening things I've seen in the finale of a show I at one point loved." - Andrew C (✔)
"And kids, I know from anger-inducing finales. I literally wrote a book about a bunch of shows that featured them, and that book featured candid quotes from their creators about how little of those series were planned and how much was created on the fly. Those quotes angered many fans of those shows, who used them as further evidence for why they hated the endings, and for why no show should be allowed to improvise major story arcs ever." - Andrew C (✔)
"And if any good can possibly come out of this "HIMYM" finale, I would hope that it is the end of this belief. Because so much of what was terrible here was terrible because Bays and Thomas had a very specific vision for the ending of their show and would not — or, perhaps, after they filmed the kids' reactions, could not — deviate from it. And based on the initial reaction I've seen to... more... - Andrew C (✔)
"Because this was horrible. This ignored everything that had happened between [various cast pairings], all because once upon a time, this is what Bays and Thomas wanted to do." - Andrew C (✔)
Whoa. What happened? - MoTO: #TeamMarina
Donna Bowman had a more positive review of the finale here: But while she wrote well and I understand where she's coming from, I side more with Sepinwall, and I'm not even a diehard HIMYM fan. The finale made the rest of the final season largely a waste of time, and I'd been a new fan who thought the plan to make s9... more... - Andrew C (✔)
Shenanigans. I'm not even a fan of the show and I'm irritated with how they finished it off. - Hookuh Tinypants from FreshFeed
There's also a really good comment on the AV Club: It's a bit long to excerpt, but essentially Cronin's point is that the showrunners fell in love with a twist they'd cooked up a long time ago and as the show went on and diverged from that twist, they ended up faking out really hard to preserve the... more... - Andrew C (✔)
I don't know how I feel about it yet. It had it good points and bad, but, without spoiling it, the ending felt like the past season was a kick in the nards. - Jed from iPhone
^ That's pretty much most peoples' take on it, including mine. I would have been just gutted to invest so much into a show and especially a single pivotal season, only to have it all crapped-on in the finale. It's as bad as the typical bait-and-switch that producers end up doing for finales anyway - doing what I call the Hawkeye Pierce on characters. Ugh. Ugh ugh ugh. - Hookuh Tinypants
Couple more media takes: Linda Holmes: , James Poniewozik: , Todd VanDerWerff: - Andrew C (✔)
What I probably find most offensive is the amount of character development of the past few seasons that the finale just tossed out the window. - Jed
Even the penultimate episode was retroactively trashed by the finale! - Andrew C (✔)
I stopped watching shortly after they pulled the stunt with Sarah Chalke earlier in the show, because as much as an unreliable narrator can sometimes be fun, it felt more like they just wanted to screw with the audience. This feels like a bigger FU than that. I wonder how many people who would have bought sets of the show won't? Or how it will effect their syndication? - Jennifer Dittrich
Can I be the guy who likes the ending? I'm that guy. - Eric - ill subliminal from iPhone
you aren't the only one, Eric. there are others of us out there. - holly #ravingfangirl
@Jennifer - not just syndication -- they've got the spinoff/spiritual sequel "How I Met Your Dad" to launch this fall. It won't star Milioti nor be about how The Mother met Ted Mosby, but..... a lot of diehard HIMYM fans probably aren't going to jump on to the next one if they felt betrayed by this one. - Andrew C (✔)
Ah, that's right - I'd forgotten about that. It'll be interesting to see if people are willing to give it another go, or if they're feeling too burned. I mean, there was a lot that I liked about the show, and they had fantastic casting. - Jennifer Dittrich
I am in the camp of being less likely to check out HIMYD. - Jed
Drew Tarver is an immensely funny guy; I'd check out HIMYD just for him... but I don't need another long con show. - Andrew C (✔)
Yeah, I was surprised to hear about the "spin-off". That ship has already long since sailed IMO. Time for something fresh. - Hookuh Tinypants
"Haaaaave you met Ted?" Goodbye "How I Met Your Mother".
"Love is the best thing we do." --Ted, "How I Met Your Mother"
I finally watched last week's episode of Community: "Advanced Advanced Dungeons and Dragons". It was good, but the original "Advanced Dungeons and Dragons" episode from season two was much better. I was entertained, but it didn't have the emotional oomph of the original.
Andrew C (✔)
We Got A Copy Of The Script For "Alice In Arabia" And It's Exactly What Critics Feared -
"[ABC Family] protested that the project shouldn't be judged on a brief synopsis, but a script for the show's pilot -- obtained by BuzzFeed from an industry source -- is likely to confirm early fears. At one point, the heroine generically describes Muslim social views -- the opposition to drinking, for instance -- as "extreme." The script also describes veiled Muslim women as "completely formless, anonymous." One sympathetic female character, in describing her lavish Riyadh home, lauds it as "worth having to wear a silly veil while outside."" - Andrew C (✔) from Bookmarklet
"The show has some departures from the standard template. The heroine is half Saudi, and sees herself as a "good Muslim girl" -- not the blonde Christian victim more typical of the genre. But it broadly plays on a familiar narrative of a beautiful girl kidnapped from the United States by sinister Arabs, held against her will in the desert, and threatened with early marriage." - Andrew C (✔)
"The Saudi record on women's rights is in fact atrocious, but the script focuses less on that society's internal struggle than on a simple dichotomy between the identities "American" and "Muslim." Nearly every devoutly Muslim character opposes American ideals, and vice versa. One character refers to Alice's mixed identity as "half Jew-loving monkey." Abu Hamza describes America as a... more... - Andrew C (✔)
This from a person who spent her NSA years in Saudi Arabia where she swore she loved and respected the culture. This is about the level of respect I expected from her. Same as it ever was. - Anika
Andrew C (✔)
BTW, I may not have raved enough about it on FF, but Broad City on Comedy Central, Rick and Morty on Cartoon Network's Adult Swim, and Brooklyn Nine-Nine on Fox are my top three new sitcoms this year, and the first two - maybe B99 as well - are brilliant enough to be in the list of best sitcoms this year.
Andrew C (✔)
"I'm happy to report that "easy" is not a word I would apply to Hannibal, not in the conception, not in the production, and certainly not in the watching. Though it's adapted from well-known material, not a frame of it is familiar. In fact, it's safe to say there is absolutely nothing remotely like Hannibal on television. I mean this with equal amounts of praise and gratitude: I'm not sure either I or the medium could survive much more." - Andrew C (✔) from Bookmarklet
"NBC, to its credit, hasn't blinked at the gore [...] but it has wept over the ratings: They're lousy. [...] It's a shame. Because while television doesn't need more shows like Hannibal, it definitely needs Hannibal. [...] It's ironic that the franchise most responsible for all the pervasive tropes of serial killers -- the evil-genius-speechifying; the backwoods creepazoids; the fucking antlers -- has also provided the first essential take on it in years. " - Andrew C (✔)
Confession: Even though it probably limped along for two seasons too long, I'm going to hate to see "How I Met Your Mother" go.
"Community" viewers: We're halfway through the new season. Assessment? I obviously think it's better than last season. It's not quite to the level of seasons 1-3, but, considering the cast changes and upheavals, I think the show is back on its feet. Really enjoying it.
Andrew C (✔)
Grantland Reality TV Fantasy League: A 'Challenge'-Shaped Life Raft in a Sea of Juan Pablocalypses « -
Grantland Reality TV Fantasy League: A 'Challenge'-Shaped Life Raft in a Sea of Juan Pablocalypses «
"Everyone hates Juan Pablo. I get it. On Monday's live After the Final Rose special, we all saw the unedited, unfiltered Juan Pablo, and the entire human race turned on him. He gave us plenty of reasons. There were many worrisome revelations about his relationship with Nikki, his relationship with Clare, and his relationship with "people behind computers," but the most shocking disclosure came before the after-show during the actual finale, when his mother was chatting with Nikki:" - Andrew C (✔) from Bookmarklet
"Juan Pablo's Mother: "You want me to tell you how it is going to be?" Nikki: "How?" Juan Pablo's Mother: "He wakes up, takes breakfast, OK? And stays at home watching TV with the family or with Camila, or watching TV with you if you are the one, that's it. He is very simple."" - Andrew C (✔)
"WAIT WAIT WAIT ... this dude watches TV all weekend? Like, ALL WEEKEND? We know Juan Pablo has no social tact, might be kind of bigoty, and has the self-awareness of an earthworm ... and THIS is what his mother is warning her future daughter-in-law about? This guy must really watch a lot of TV. " - Andrew C (✔)
"Imagine you're on an island with your prospective wife, and she asks you what life together will be like. Why would you basically say: "I'm not sure what your life will be like, but I will be in my office watching TV"? Just why? It cracks me up. What woman would get engaged to this man? What woman listens to that and says: "Perfect. Exactly what I was looking for in a life partner"?... more... - Andrew C (✔)
"As if the whole "You know if you marry this dude he's going to watch TV all day, right?" thing from his own mother wasn't enough to make Nikki completely reconsider getting engaged to this guy, Juan Pablo's cousin made sure to ask BOTH women this: "Something that happens with Juan Pablo you should be aware of is, when things get rough, he is willing to walk away. You have to hold on to the relationship, or are you one of the persons that walks away at the first signs of problems?"" - Andrew C (✔)
Andrew C (✔)
In Ridiculous Stunt, Adult Swim Premieres 'Rick and Morty' Episode on Instagram in 100-Plus Video Clips | Variety -
"Adult Swim, the programming block on Turner's Cartoon Network, has posted the entire half-hour episode online on the Rick and Morty Instagram account. But it's cut up into more than 100 clips to meet the Instagram limits of posting video clips of 15 seconds or less -- making this more of a publicity stunt than a lagniappe to the show's budding fanbase." - Andrew C (✔) from Bookmarklet
Lagniappe. Good word. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
I'm over a third of the way through this already. - Andrew C (✔)
OK, finished it. It's an amazing episode, maybe the best R&M yet. - Andrew C (✔)
Also, anyone who wants to watch it on a computer, just press the right arrow key to advance to the next clip. - Andrew C (✔)
Andrew C (✔)
How To Launch (Or Save) A TV Show In 2014 -
How To Launch (Or Save) A TV Show In 2014
"However, contrary to a popular theory, Lawrence doesn't believe audience apathy is to blame for the failure of so many new shows, and instead suggests that the cause is audience ignorance. "I don't think shows are rejected as much as they're simply not breaking through," he said. "The climate is not friendly to awareness, which is an odd new thing that I experienced with Ground Floor. That was a 10-episode order, and on my own Twitter feed, people I assume are fans of my work because they follow me would ask when the show was starting. That killed me because it had been on for the last nine weeks and I talked about it every day."" - Andrew C (✔) from Bookmarklet
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‘True Detective’: Where Things Stand with Season 2 | Variety -
‘True Detective’: Where Things Stand with Season 2 | Variety
"Now that the mystery of the Yellow King is solved, “True Detective” fans are turning their attention to figuring out the path for the show’s journey to season two. At present, creator Nic Pizzolatto is said to be hunkered down writing scripts for the second season at his home in a picturesque area of Ventura County. HBO execs have said they intend to order a second season of the anthology series, which will return with new characters and a new mystery to unravel. Speculation about the possible casting for the next batch of episodes is running rampant online, but those in the know say the plan is to wait until a script or two is completed before going out to actors. As for the focus of the second season, Pizzolatto has been mostly mum but he dropped a good-sized hint in an interview following Sunday’s finale with Hitfix’s Alan Sepinwall. “This is really early, but I’ll tell you (it’s about) hard women, bad men and the secret occult history of the United States transportation system,”... more... - Bluesun 2600 from Bookmarklet
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Game of Thrones Season 4 Trailer - Everybody Wants to Rule the World - YouTube -
Game of Thrones Season 4 Trailer - Everybody Wants to Rule the World - YouTube
Badass, fan trailer for this upcoming season. - Bluesun 2600 from Bookmarklet
Andrew C (✔)
Full House Without Michelle - YouTube -
"Did Danny Tanner deal with the grief of losing his pregnant wife in a fatal car crash by creating an imaginary daughter named "Michelle"?" - Andrew C (✔) from Bookmarklet
Andrew C (✔)
Grantland Reality TV Fantasy League: Ghostface Killah Is LaBeoufing 'Couples Therapy' « -
"Ghostface Killah is on Couples Therapy because it's fun to be Ghostface Killah on Couples Therapy. He really seems to be enjoying himself. When we last checked in on Pretty Tony, he was upset because his "girlfriend" admitted she previously had a career as an exotic dancer. Ghost was not pleased about this revelation. Guess what? Ghostface had a revelation of his own." - Andrew C (✔) from Bookmarklet
"You see, Ghostface went on Couples Therapy with Kelsey to work on their relationship, a relationship that really started in earnest only four months ago. One might think that Ghost agreeing to televised therapy with his girlfriend was at least in part motivated by a genuine interest in bettering the relationship. One would be wrong. Not only is he not there to really work on his relationship with Kelsey, HE ALSO HAS ANOTHER GIRLFRIEND ALTOGETHER. A REAL GIRLFRIEND. " - Andrew C (✔)
"So not only does he actually have another girlfriend, and not only has he been with this other girlfriend much longer, BUT HE IS ALSO BRINGING HER ON THE SHOW. Ghostface is Shia LaBeoufing Couples Therapy. The whole thing is performance art. He has no interest in improving himself or his relationship; he's having a laugh." - Andrew C (✔)
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The King in Yellow - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia -
The King in Yellow - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I hadn't realized that the "Yellow King" in True Detective is really a reference to this book from 1895. Which also inspired Lovecraft, who included several references to this in his works. Chambers was a precursor to modern day Horror writers with the first four stories in the "The King in Yellow". - Bluesun 2600 from Bookmarklet
Andrew C (✔)
The Bluth Company, Bluth Chicken Dances. -
with diagrams! - Andrew C (✔) from Bookmarklet
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Scalzi's Redshirts coming to TV - Boing Boing -
Scalzi's Redshirts coming to TV - Boing Boing
"John Scalzi's Hugo-winning, existentialist comedy space opera novel Redshirts is being adapted into a TV series by FX -- it's a natural! This is just wonderful news -- intelligent, funny science fiction from a novelist who plays with the tropes of the field, it's just what TV needs." - Bluesun 2600 from Bookmarklet
Andrew C (✔)
Jay Leno's Final 'Tonight Show': Saying Good-bye to the Guy at Work You Never Really Got to Know « -
Jay Leno's Final 'Tonight Show': Saying Good-bye to the Guy at Work You Never Really Got to Know «
"For nearly 50 minutes, anyone tuning in to Jay Leno's latest last episode of The Tonight Show in search of insight would have been sorely disappointed. Those in search of laughs, doubly so." - Andrew C (✔) from Bookmarklet
"I don't think this lack of emotion was denial so much as it was DNA. Jay Leno has always prided himself on being a working comedian with a particular emphasis placed on the first word over the second. Throughout his many, many decades in the public eye, Leno has never dazzled with his slashing wit or impressed with his honesty. He has simply worked and endured, traits that are generally celebrated in every field except the one he chose." - Andrew C (✔)
"At the end of the show, though, the façade finally dropped. "Boy, this is the hard part," Leno said, cupping his prodigious chin and rubbing his aging eyes. The moment he had been avoiding for two decades had finally arrived. It was just the man and the desk; no guests, no gags, no dopey headlines. It was precisely the sort of pure, unscripted scenario that Leno detests and his lifelong frenemy, David Letterman, prefers. And what emerged was surprisingly moving and, it seemed to me, honest. " - Andrew C (✔)
Andrew C (✔)
Alt-Soviet epic The Red Star could become the wildest show on TV -
Alt-Soviet epic The Red Star could become the wildest show on TV
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"Christian Gossett's The Red Star remains one of the most unusual comics of the past decade or so -- an alternate history of the U.S.S.R. that mixes futuristic technology and sorcery. This sprawling saga was going to be a movie directed by Josh Trank -- but now sources tell io9 it's in development for television instead." - Andrew C (✔) from Bookmarklet
Andrew C (✔)
The Lion Sleeps Tonight: Why we'll miss hating Jay Leno « -
"When Steve Kroft prefaced a recent 60 Minutes report by noting that Leno is one of the five most popular people on television, his intention was to illustrate that Leno (either by choice or network decree) is leaving his job prematurely. But in reality it showed how The Tonight Show has been diminished as an institution since Leno took over the show 22 years ago." - Andrew C (✔) from Bookmarklet
"Throughout the '70s and '80s, it was accepted as fact that Johnny Carson was the biggest TV star on the planet. He was more recognizable than virtually all the guests who sat in the chair adjacent to his desk. When he retired in 1992, Carson could walk into any grocery store in America and make Tom Cruise look like a checkout clerk. Leno can't stack up against that kind of mythic, old-world star power. He barely stacks up against four other contemporary TV personalities." - Andrew C (✔)
"As a longtime Leno loather, let me cop to this: I won't miss his show, but I will miss complaining about his show. Leno, self-consciously or not, played a great heel, and people my age relished every hiss and boo we spat at him." - Andrew C (✔)
"Love him or (especially) hate him, Leno was the only reason The Tonight Show mattered even the tiniest bit. My generation has been defined by its antipathy toward boomers, and Leno is the Coca-Cola of boomer culture." - Andrew C (✔)
"Watching these old Late Night shows reminded me why I responded to Letterman so strongly as I entered my teen years in the early '90s. Just as The Simpsons did around the same time, Letterman confirmed that you were smart and "correct" for believing that mainstream pop culture was imbecilic. A person like Letterman trained you to see through people like Leno. He made you want to be the... more... - Andrew C (✔)
Andrew C (✔)
FremantleMedia To Adapt Neil Gaiman's 'American Gods' As Drama Series -
FremantleMedia To Adapt Neil Gaiman's 'American Gods' As Drama Series
"Acclaimed urban fantasy novel American Gods is headed to television. FremantleMedia North America has acquired the rights to the book by Neil Gaiman, creator of the popular Sandman comic. Gaiman will executive produce the potential American Gods series with FMNA." - Andrew C (✔) from Bookmarklet
I wondered where that would end up after it exited HBO's development. - Jennifer Dittrich
Oh man. I trust HBO to make good TV. Who are these other guys? - Spidra Webster
They're the guys that do stuff like "X Factor" and "Family Feud" these days. I have no idea how that's going to turn out. - Jennifer Dittrich
Fremantle's a studio, and yeah, I think they specialize in reality fare. I just hope it doesn't land at AMC, because AMC as a network seems incredibly poorly run. - Andrew C (✔)
Wow, really? I wouldn't have figured the network who brought us Mad Men and Breaking Bad was poorly run. - Spidra Webster
I'm hoping more for one of the other pay channels, or Prime or Netflix at this point. I don't know how they'd get that story to film without massively watering it down if you were on a broadcast network. - Jennifer Dittrich
It makes me wonder whether Gaiman has any control over who it's optioned by. - Spidra Webster
The _people_ who brought Mad Men and Breaking Bad to AMC have long since left, and everyone there now is flailing, and have been for a while now: - Andrew C (✔)
That is darned sad. Reminds me of the music business. You'll get signed by someone, that guy leaves the label before your album is done and you're up Excrement Creek. - Spidra Webster
From Neil Gaiman's blog: "A few people have asked for more background on this: HBO had an option on American Gods for several years. It went through three different pilot scripts. HBO has a limited number of slots and, after a while, passed it to Cinemax, who are in the HBO family, who decided eventually they didn't want to do it, and the option expired, which unfortunately meant we... more... - bentley
That makes me feel a bit better about the situation, though I wish it would have worked out at HBO (you have that and GoT running, I will subscribe, no questions asked.) - Jennifer Dittrich
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