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Live now: This Week in Google 9 with Jeff Jarvis, and Gina Trapani. http://live.twit.tv. Discuss here...

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Google needs to sync up sidewiki and Google Reader comments ASAP if they want to get traction as a central converation hub. - Ken Sheppardson

I aspire to say something important enough that people talk about it somewhere other than comments on my blog post. - Ken Sheppardson

Doesn't sidewiki work pretty much like Diigo? With Diigo, in addtion to highliting excerpts on pages it allows one to add post-it like notes. - lelapin

Yeah, it's pretty much the same thing as diigo, lelapin. - Ken Sheppardson

When has Google ever asked our permission to launch a service? - Ken Sheppardson

Launching a service is different than pushing it into an existing product that millions of people already have installed. - Ghworg

You don't have to use it. - Ken Sheppardson

Whether I use it or not, as a blog owner it affects me. - Ghworg

Sure it does. So does Diigo. So does FriendFeed. There are conversations happening all over the place. You can't control them. It's naive to think you can, and futile to try. - Ken Sheppardson

Google is tea-bagging sites with SideWiki, and browsers with Google Frame - Gabe

Sidewiki shows up only for those folks who explicitly chosen to use it. They turn it on. It's like some sort of app they install on their system. It's not as if Google imposing this on everyone who visits your site. - Ken Sheppardson

SideWiki is working fine for me :) I have left comments on live.twit.tv as well as leoville.com Check it out and see if it's working now Leo :D - Dylan Combs

IE causes problems for developers that other browser don't - John Wright

But if you are in that corporate situation, you probably can't access those sites - Johnny Worthington

I don't know about IE 7 and IE 8 as much but IE 6 is well known to be terrible... I think what the Wave team did is great - John Wright

I made this site as kind of a joke kind of serious ... http://deathtoie6.com , it has been popular and controversial - John Wright

However, this speaks to the problems that sites had with framing of sites with advertising by others some years ago. Google will be reaping benefit (advertising) from the content on some else's site. That was considered not desirable before and should be now. While others can comment about you on their own site, framing your site is getting unearned benefit from your work. - JR Holmes

Great point from Gina on the Chrome Frame: IE 6 is still the most used browser and standard in many businesses. Not so sneaky way to help Google Wave get early traction as a messaging tool coordinated with Google Apps in the enterprise. - Alex Howard

Johnny: I understand the corporate environment issue... hopefully the Chrome frame can get into those corporate computer environments - John Wright

I think google wave will eventually take over email. Who would choose email over realtime conversation with e-mail as an added feature when it's needed? - Dylan Combs

Being able to see me type is a bad thing. I often type in horrid insults and nasty comments, then delete them when I think better of it. - Ghworg

Will Wave take any steam away from Twitter? - Dave Yankowiak

Can you use GoogleWave confidentially within a business? I'd love to be able to use it to manage teams and projects - KQT

@Ghworg you can disable that feature - Dylan Combs

Isn't that an Apple thing though. Ultra cool technology you never knew you needed - Johnny Worthington

The essence of Twitter is the broadcast of comments. With Wave, it keeps the conversation within the group. - JR Holmes

Google told me I'd be getting Wave credentials in a few days. That was two months ago :-/ - Ken Sheppardson

KQT: yes I believe they said you can host your own wave server like an email server... and it can be within your own intranet also - John Wright

@KQT On a company hosted Wave, it should be as private as internal email. - JR Holmes

YAY! - Johnny Worthington

Does leo pay attention to the FF chat? - Dylan Combs

Interesting. I could see it as a form of workflow/project mgmt - KQT

Yes, but he is playing with Wave - Johnny Worthington

Dylan: Yes, usually he pays a lot of attention. - Mister IQ

@Mister IQ I will be here more often then :) - Dylan Combs

I <3 Audible - Dylan Combs

I loved Leo's 101 Stone Tool Answers You Need to Know - Johnny Worthington

I've been thinking I need to read more books... I don't want to buy books and have a library though. I was thinking about a Kindle but I'm not sure. Maybe I should look into Audible, but it's not the same as reading I suppose. - John Wright

I like Audible but I really wish they'd create the audio version of more textbooks - KQT

hi fro,m a rainy night in ga every things working briluntly 2 day - daveccorey

Gmail... FREE SERVICE. If you base your business email on a free, 3rd party service, your foolish - Johnny Worthington

Gina jinxed it. - Ghworg

I thought one of the benefits of Virtualization tech was that if some parts go down the whole thing doesn't go down. I guess it's not the case with entire clouds going down... like Google App Engine a while back. - John Wright

Google should not be doing this.. I hope they dont stop making that mod. it's just like jailbreaking the iPhone. It's not going anywhere anytime soon - Dylan Combs

my Google Android Mod did not receive a cease and desist, in fact, I gave it to the Google Office in Ann Arbor: http://ugm.gabemcg.com/picture... - Gabe

I tried to take a snapshot to tweet about watching TWiG Live, and when i took the screenshot Leo has a strange face on hahahah http://twitpic.com/j9l7w - Dylan Combs

It's business. No company will never been truly open - Johnny Worthington

Well, there's always the Pre :-) - Ken Sheppardson

In my mind cell company's have been notorious for keeping things closed and getting as much money as possible (which is understandable) for their services, locking things down to make money. But as cell phones become true handheld computers, the cell companies will see more and more issues like this. - John Wright

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... list of aquisitions - jccalhoun

Jeff here is the map of Google Acquisitions from TechCrunch - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009... - Atul Arora

I don't see why anyone cared that yahoo put their name by flickr... I mean they own flickr, what's the big deal? - John Wright

Jeff/Leo - Today's post from CDixon from Hunch on Yahoo should invest in products and not do ads... http://www.cdixon.org/?p=1138 - Atul Arora

click the "!" on the homepage and listen to it "sing" - Don Bonaddio

Peanut Butter memo was Brad Garlinghouse http://paidcontent.org/article... - Atul Arora

the Yahoo homepage that is.. - Don Bonaddio

A list of google's acquisitions with some explanations of what the company was http://www.seobythesea.com/... - jccalhoun

John Wright - I don't think it's worth talking about, but it's a little gratuitous. They're trying to gain some credibility and get their brand awareness past their search engine. I suppose it's understandable, but it feels like pandering to me. - KQT

Yahoo owns a lot of valuable internet properties, but they really aren't doing the best with what they have. They don't seem to have a focused vision, or they haven't in the past. It seems like I've seen the start all kinds of sites/apps/products some that compete with each other. Then they will cancel some. Seems like poor management/leadership, other than that Yahoo isn't bad. - John Wright

@KQT Yeah they're definitely trying to increase "mindshare" with it but I mean they own it and it's such a small change. It's not a feature change, it really doesn't affect the value of the service. I don't see why anyone made an uproar but that's just me :) - John Wright

Does anyone else worry about how much Google is seaping into every facet of our digital lives? I love Google, but I have a recurring nightmare that Google uses all the information they have about us for evil someday. - KQT

from Anil Dash - "Could apps using Twitter's new geolocation APIs protect privacy by discarding one significant digit of lat/lon for each week data is stored?" - Atul Arora

@KQT wow, I thought about it before and I didn't see Google doing wrong... but yeah... what if!! ... they turn to the darkside ??? :( - John Wright

It'd make for a great movie... Of course, only if Tom Cruise starred in it. lol - KQT

How dare Google allow people to attach comments to places. Those comments should be left in those places. Like, on the wall or something. Maybe with a spray can. Fragmentation!! Fragmentation!! - Ken Sheppardson

Next thing you know, Google will be serving ads to people when you're viewing peoples' comments about the places you're visiting. - Ken Sheppardson

Google Places may get spammed easily. How would businesses cope with bad feedback? I don't think any business has 100% customer satisfaction rate. - Krishna

Why doesn't Jeff object to this for the same reasons he objects to Sidewiki? - Ken Sheppardson

That's a great idea re: checking in when you leave vs arrive. - KQT

@Krishna that's the big thing all this social media will affect. Never before could you find so many "natural" reviews and info about a company or place. It's going to be interesting how this will change things - John Wright

These programs which show places where you are seem very scary to me. Especially for a public person. This would be a stalkers' paradise. - shelter watch

Shout out @kShep! - Matthew DeVries

I always cringe for a second when Leo quotes me ;-) - Ken Sheppardson

Oh come on, I'd be proud;-) - Barney Lerten

This cyanogen move is exactly why all counter culture is bullsh*t, and why we should just meld with "the man" because ever counter culture leader always turns on it's people, EVERY.SINGLE.TIME. So we may as well buy MacBooks and iPhones and become part of "the man" - Matthew DeVries

I've had the contacts synced for a while, it's very nice :) - John Wright

Leo: Please mention Gpush... IMAP is a lot better than Google Sync for email. I do use Google Sync for Calendar/Contacts. http://www.theglitch.ws/2009... - Jason Hansen

when it works :-P, my email is consistently flaky - Don Bonaddio

Jeff should give us next weeks number of the week for us to figure out and then explain it the next week - Jim Bednarz

So, how do these guys get paid for this discussion? Audible? - KQT

Great Show Leo, Gina and Jeff :-) - Emery Walker

Sorta like FlashForward, Jim;-) - Barney Lerten

can you post that link to the bookmarklet ? - John Wright

No audible pick? - Edward Moskowitz

fruedian meme - Preternat (Ken Cadby)

So fun, 3-4 weeks in I'm hooked. I just want a Magic Tablet to watch them on;-) - Barney Lerten

Guys, how's Google Exchange battery wise? - Michel

Michel: Google had this to say... "While this type of speed is pretty awesome, push connections tend to use more power than fetching at intervals, so don’t be surprised if your battery life isn’t quite what it used to be. We’ve done a lot of work to optimize power usage, but if you prefer to save battery life, you can always turn off push in your phone’s settings and fetch mail every 30 or 60 minutes instead." - Jason Hansen

@Jason. Ok thanks. I see that it does come at a disadvantage. I tried it out, but since I couldn't send from multiple emails, I scrapped it. I dunno if I'm doing something wrong. I'll try it out again. - Michel

Audible Pick: The Greatest Show on Earth: The Evidence for Evolution By Richard Dawkins http://www.audible.com/adbl... - Leo Laporte

Great show again Guys - really enjoyed it :) - Phill Price

Great Show Leo :) - Dylan Combs

Just posted a Sidewiki entry to this page... this Sidewiki thing could be huge... the annotated web. Others have tried to make services like this but Google could get it enough tracktion to be useful. - John Wright

Tease: Today on TWiG: Gina Trapani gets the bad news, Android ain't open, Jeff Jarvis asks What Would Google Buy, and Leo talks sidewiki.... stay tune this week in google is coming up next! - Leo Laporte

I wish i could come on a show with Leo someday :D - Dylan Combs

Thanks, Leo; Love your stuff! - tytycoon

Yes indeed, excellent show. You should just change the theme music. Sounds like a fantasy book. :P - Michel

I love the theme music! Classical music makes you smarter, right? - Laura Norvig

Are you guys going to release the video on all platforms (miro, itunes, etc.)? Or are you going to just release on Mediafly? - tytycoon

I think he said that they would eventually be able to post them at podcasts in iTunes and as videos on YouTube. - Michel

Leo: re user participation in iDents - BBC three does it over here quite well? - Phill Price

Android is under Apache 2.0 and GPL license. And Apache 2.0 as the BSD license allows to publish closed source derived from open source. So it's a good idea not to talk "Open Source" but to look at the license in any single case. This example btw shows that the GPL is the only true open source license. ;) - Cl Attr

But if they are going to go with Mediafly, they might opt-out like what happened with Stickham. - Michel

Thanks for the info, Michel - tytycoon