Live now: This Week in Tech 211 with Nicole Lee,... - TWiT Conversations

Tech i hope? - Zee.

edit! - Dakota O'Neill

Maybe.... - x5315

yep. - Dakota O'Neill

ah, genius suspense artist... :) I know what you're doing :) - Zee.

a number as a middle name, interesting! - Dakota O'Neill

Hey everyone - Seth Hoogeboom

Hey all! - Joel Lovato

Hey Joel - Seth Hoogeboom

Leo... JCD said he'd pick it up next time he was in Petaluma - Hipp from IM

Microsoft Bob has arrived! - Dakota O'Neill

Hey Seth - Joel Lovato

Hola All! - RALPH

Watching live for once.... - Chris Miller

I never watch TWiT live usually ;) - Seth Hoogeboom

I always watch live - Victor Hooper

Watching live is better because you get to hear *everything*... - CG

You can't beat watching live. I already have my beer, waiting for the dvorak/blog.org .ol - RALPH

same here... always watch live and rarely listen to podcast (still d/l tho, for ad $) :-) - Hipp from IM

I do both, I am usually multitasking, and I could miss something - RALPH

@ Hipp - Same. - Dakota O'Neill

i used to listen to many podcasts at work, but they put an end to radios/ipods :-( - Hipp from IM

Oh, nice and early today - Jeremy Wong

Mike can be a tosser - Mark

That Apple Store robbery was an awesome video - Seth Hoogeboom

Definitely well planned. - x5315

wait, leo is complaining that the news channel gets 3 minutes out of a 32 second video and he spends how many minutes discussing how the news channel spent 3 minutes on it?... - jccalhoun

lol - Seth Hoogeboom

but Gmail was only down on on the web - x5315

POP and IMAP still worked - Seth Hoogeboom

i got big lulz from sarah's tweet... had to retweet that one heh - Hipp from IM

Don't companies use Mail or Outlook so they use IMAP or POP? - x5315

Most likely - Seth Hoogeboom

Yahoo leads because of the bundle deal they did with SBC as the default service for DSL users. Hotmail's up there just because Microsoft uses it as a global account identifier for all their online services. - Ken Sheppardson

I'll bet if you look at *active* accounts, Gmail's up there. - Ken Sheppardson

i think everyone who's really into Windows 7 probably already has it - x5315

John needs exciting tech news before he falls asleep - dawgbytez

he should have a win 7 party - Victor Hooper

Leo I have totally immersed myself in all of Googles offerings. I like it in spite of privacy risk. Value add! - earl wallace

Has there been any news on Chrome OS lately? - Seth Hoogeboom from IM

TWiT 211 - Party in Your Pants (?) - Ken Sheppardson

How 'bout an XBOX and a dozen Zunes. - Ken Sheppardson

kshep: ding! we have a winnahhhh! - Hipp from IM

A deck of cards, that will be some party. - Ghworg

I know, right? - Seth Hoogeboom from IM

Ken, then Microsoft could double the number of people using the Zune - x5315

Ghworg: The deck of cards is so you can play solitaire when nobody you know shows up. - Ken Sheppardson

pwned - Seth Hoogeboom from IM

microsoft marketing = fail - HansVanRock

the deck of cards is there because the $750 computer can't handle windows solitaire :-P - Hipp from IM

Haha, so true - Seth Hoogeboom from IM

Windows Weekly, Leo - Ken Sheppardson

Did everyone see that Jon had already left? - x5315

Paul wearing a little pointy hat, blowing a noisemaker. - Ken Sheppardson

Windows has massive share, because they do things like House Party. They canvass all areas of the market. I can see this would appeal to some people I know. - Fergal Barry

Windows Weekly XXX: The House Party - Seth Hoogeboom from IM

Windows doesn't have massive market share because they do things like House Party. - Ken Sheppardson

FAILparty? - Hipp from IM

Windows has massive market share because it's the default OS on 90% of the computers sold. - Ken Sheppardson

i will do a ring of death or bluescreen party - HansVanRock

Yes! - Seth Hoogeboom from IM

New Achievement Unlocked... Red Ring of Death! - Hipp from IM

Uh-huh. So the marketing is all a conspiracy to hide hide another conspiracy to put it on 90% of computers. I geddit. - Fergal Barry

Upgrading Wordpress is dead easy if you are using the stock install. If you have customized it then it is more awkward. - Ghworg

What are you talking about, Fergal? - Ken Sheppardson

Windows is on 90% of computers partly because MS takes marketing very seriously. House Party is segmented marketing. Isn't that an easy explanation? - Fergal Barry

I'm downloading the Windows 7 Enterprise trial :) - Seth Hoogeboom

Safari's so...awkward on Vista. - rwa2play

The reason Google kept the "I'm feeling lucky" button is because they did a study and they found that people find it "comforting", so they kept it for comfort - CG

the new flash is coming in 10.6.1 - x5315

The whole Flash thing is the biggest non-story of last week. Looks like everybody run out of news. - notagolfer

"It's possible to become too dry, too corporate, too much about making money. I think what's delightful about 'I'm Feeling Lucky' is that it reminds you there are real people here," Google exec Marissa Mayer explained, or at least tried to. -- http://valleywag.gawker.com/324927... - Ken Sheppardson

Stories: What’s Next with the Apple OS X : http://www.loomingtech.com/2009... - Squealing Rat

More about the "I'm feeling lucky" button - http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display... - Ken Sheppardson

does that really work? - Victor Hooper

hmmmm... Pogue and Mossberg ARE Apple media :-/ - Hipp from IM

Those comments by Pogue are quite inflammatory. - rwa2play

Stories: The Mesh Wireless Network: http://www.loomingtech.com/2009... - Squealing Rat

Apple is probably using something similar to nspluginwrapper http://freshmeat.net/project... which 64-bit browsers on linux used for a long time to get the 32-bit flash plugin to work. - Ghworg

Yep, Flash runs in a separate process. - x5315

Isn't Thurrott releasing a book about Windows 7? Should he be reviewing Win7? - Paul Grav

that's a good point - x5315

I guess there are different standards for MainStream Media. - Fergal Barry

I wouldn't mind a disclaimer being a commercial. Virtuous circle from proper disclosure. Maybe the paper editors would though... - Fergal Barry

New adverts are needed, new companies. - Mark

no one gives a shit about these any more, if you listen to ten TWiT network shows, you get the audible crap ten times with ten URL's. - Mark

markcooperuk1: chill... it pays the bills for TWiT - Hipp from IM

Yeah! I wanna work there! - Fergal Barry

VMware May Be Microsoft’s Top Rival After Google ....looks interesting! - Fergal Barry

Leo, you should look at Nokia N900, an attempt by Nokia to compete with the IPHONE, with motion sensors - RALPH

i've been a Cingular/ATT customer for years... they have always lagged behind every other carrier inn features, speed, etc - Hipp from IM

She's right the global leader that is AT&T is the last carrier on the planet to offer MMS to iPhone users. - John Brazel

No one should ever feel sorry for AT&T. - Joel Lovato

I'm not watching the show, but with virtualized XP, MSFT is trying to price VMware out of the Market. I hear it's pretty damn nifty. How many people are going to shell out $$$ for VMware when virtualized XP covers 75% of use cases. - Roberto Bonini from iPhone

It has a keyboard, that apparently is quite easy to use... check out this recent link from maemo.org Leo, http://maemo.org/communi... - RALPH

Those invites were sent only to young people :) - notagolfer

Thanks Roberto. VMware article on del.icio.us page, but not discussed yet. I'd love to hear more about it. In the link from del.icio.us it says VMWare acquired SpringSource, a maker of open-source software development tools, to raise the stakes. - Fergal Barry

no he will not show up - alex chan

no beatles &stones combined, hence the unusual lyric Leo. - John Brazel

He'll show because paul and ringo will be ther - Jim Lyons

I think he will - Seth Hoogeboom

Only if it's about the Beatles catalog comes to iTunes - rwa2play

I think Apple is looking to steal Zune's thunder and he'll show. - Joel Lovato

I think Leo overestimates the significance of 9/9/09 as a "Beatles" event. It's first and foremost...particularly for anybody under 50... just a neat day from a numerological standpoint. - Ken Sheppardson

A yellow Beatles iPod. Which is waterproof. - Ghworg

Beatles catalog comes to iTunes...and Paul and Ringo come to the presentation. Only then would Steve show up. - rwa2play

9/9/09 is the Dreamcast birthday - Seth Hoogeboom

Me too. It's gotta be The Beatles coming to iTunes; Paul & Ringo join Steve for the announcement AND a Sp. Edition Beatles iPod. - rwa2play

Wait... WHAT? Steve Jobs doesn't want to be the story? Are you joking? - Ken Sheppardson

Steve wants to be the story...but only in a positive light. - rwa2play

"big suit" - Ken Sheppardson

http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Shawn Cleghorn

Houston Chronicle FTW - I grew up reading Silverman's articles. - Jesse Stay

"Box Office Mojo reports that, since 1978, superhero movies have grossed over $7.28 billion at the domestic box office, with an average gross of $94.6 million per film." -- http://www.cnbc.com/id... - Ken Sheppardson

Disney is currently owning the little girls market with Hannah Montanna and other things on the Disney Channel. They recently rebranded their Disney Toon channel as Disney DX in an attempt to get little boys to watch their stuff. Buying Marvel is a way to get that market. - jccalhoun

Editorializing is that a euphemism for rant? - John Brazel

In todays world, yes - Seth Hoogeboom

It came from the 80's - John Brazel

JCD just blew my mind! - Hipp from IM

Jeez... it doesn't have a "birthday". There was no day on which it existed, the day before which it didn't. It was a gradual, incremental thing. Like evolution. On what day was the first human born? [Adam and Eve notwithstanding, and I'm sure somebody will bring up the fact they weren't "born"...] - Ken Sheppardson

Adam and Eve weren't born. - Joel Lovato

Just say it was 1969 that the internet was "born." - rwa2play

See "Where Wizards Stay Up Late" for a pretty darn good history of all this http://www.amazon.com/Where-W... - Ken Sheppardson

Look at some of the photos of those who created the Internet. A prerequisite was that you had to have an awesome beard. The link between the hippies at Woodstock and the Internet stands revealed (Beards!!!). - JR Holmes

Whitman was certainly there for the Skype purchase. - Ken Sheppardson

Well, thanks for trying Leo...woulda liked some perspective on SpringSource. I don't know much about them...maybe work the topic some other time :) - Fergal Barry

I would love a web design show. For a good web design podcast check http://boagworld.com/ - Jim Lyons

TIME: eBay recently paid at least $2.6 billion for the Internet phone company Skype, and the two words most frequently used to describe the purchase were "head scratching." Was the price excessive? WHITMAN: We obviously think it was fair. We looked at value in Skype in a number of different ways: the amount we paid on a per-user basis, discounted cash flows, etc. We also looked at what we thought Skype could do on its own and with eBay. -- http://www.time.com/time... - Ken Sheppardson

A VMWare country! The Netherlands! - Fergal Barry

TIME: What will take to make growth even more dynamic? WHITMAN: That's one of the reasons we're excited about Skype. It can create a new way for buyers and sellers to communicate. It actually will help us get into new categories. For example, if you're a web designer, it's hard for you to sell your product on eBay - what you want to do is connect and find out what the buyer wants. - Ken Sheppardson

Leo's Dutch sounds like Goldmember from Austin Powers - Shawn Cleghorn

Q: What about buying Skype? Whitman: We liked Skype and still like Skype as a standalone business—a $400 million, four-year-old. Skype is doing more business as a four-year-old than eBay, Yahoo, or even Google did. We saw potential synergies between Skype and eBay. The next year or so will prove out if we were right. We’ve only had our management team in there for three months. Prior to that we had the founders, who are brave individuals, but were motivated by the earn-out. -- http://www.techcrunch.com/2008... - Ken Sheppardson

Have you seen that Spotify just released the iPhone and Android apps about an hour ago? - https://www.spotify.com/blog... - James

Yes! Name it Party in My Pants! - Seth Hoogeboom

XD - Seth Hoogeboom

Fonzie jumps the shark - http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Ken Sheppardson

Leo I'm in - Jim Lyons

Do you have a phone booth we can all squeeze into circa 1950's 60's? - shelter watch

Too bad I'm leaving SF the 20th. I'd love to be guest at the TWIT Windows 7 Houseparty... - David Schmidt

Paul should host a house party on his end too. - Ken Sheppardson

If you submit your request to host a Windows 7 House Party from a Mac... don't hold your breath ;-) - Ken Sheppardson

Is Carbonite still a TWiT network sponsor? I dumped them for Backblaze... which I mention only because y'all were discussing http://blog.backblaze.com/2009... See also http://friendfeed.com/bret... - Ken Sheppardson

Carbonite is still a sponsor - but you're more than welcome to use another solution! ;-) Do you prefer Backblaze to S3 with Jungle Disk? - Leo Laporte

Leo, I use S3 with Jungle Disk but I am really digging Dropbox over S3. Do you see any advantage to stay with S3 over dropbox? - Jeremy Behrens

I haven't looked at Jungle Disk in a long, long time but at $0.15 per GB-Month it seems closer to Dropbox than a set-it-and-forget-it background backup system like Carbonite or Backblaze. (Backblaze is $5/mo for unlimited storage) - Ken Sheppardson

I have to say that this was a good TWiT - Seth Hoogeboom from IM

Once again another great episode! Love the How Old is the Internet really story. - Victor Aroma