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Live now... This Week In Tech with John C. Dvorak, Dwight Silverman, Doug Kaye, and Wil Harris. http://live.twit.tv. Discuss here....
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June 14 - Comment - Share
Afternoon all - Simon Wicks
There we go - Iain
hi leo - Jack McLoughlin
here we are, hello - monkeystick
hi all - Aubrey_Ingraham
Looks like a good lineup today - Chris Heath
hi - Dave
Darren Landrum, present and accounted for! :-) - Darren Landrum
yo. looking forward to being a TWiT guest! - Dwight Silverman
hey hop - Robin Ramael
howdy all - Chris Pugh
Great Lineup - Stephen Pickering
Hello, world! - Nate
Ah we can escape the madness of IRC - Greg Byrne
cool to see wil in studio - Aubrey_Ingraham
G'day from AussiMike - Mike Aikins
Greetings from sunny Vancouver, B.C, - Colin Clarke
the best line up in a while - Ben Correll
This is more fun than IRC - Stephen Pickering
Greetings from Austria - Chris
Hi all - Paul Blasman
w00t Dwight Silverman representing Texas in the house!! - Andrew Johnson
Hello from upstate New York -- Joe Gilbert - Joe Gilbert
Whats up with Dvorak's picture? lol - Donald Forth
Xbox Natal may be a front for a new xbox console leo - http://www.techradar.com/news... - Michael Mooney
Greetings from Antarctica! - Ross Johnson
John Durham, Redlands, CA - John Durham
hello from london town - AV
Greetings - Corey Kliewer
Hello from Dublin - Paulo Custodio
Like Oprah you wield power. Use it wisely (unlike Oprah) - Gold
that's nice and constructive and mature AhronZombi - Robin Ramael
/ignore ahronzombi - Preternat (Ken Cadby)
Hello from Edinburgh - Callum
feed went down? - Ross Johnson
Leo will not be bought! - Eduardo Contreras
Twitter making money (for DELL) - http://www.techradar.com/news... - Michael Mooney
Woo! A European perspective! - John Frazer
How do we go about blocking this rather cancerous (by quality of contribution) AhronZombi? - 1x29
Is the Pre coming to T-Mobile. - Eduardo Contreras
Adrian, click his name, then "Block this user" - Greg Byrne
Is there anyway to move the Comment link in friend feed to below the latest post? Or to get the feed top down instead? - 1x29
Dwight, you should have stopped by while you were up here. Oh, you don't know me.... - Lee
Looks like good panel today. I - David Jones
Blocked - David Lloyd
Thanks, Greg :) - 1x29
oh cool, i didn't know! it's possible to block him here: http://friendfeed.com/ahronzo... - Preternat (Ken Cadby)
Adrian click the time stamp - Stephen Pickering
Congrats!! Dwight, you must be proud! - Eduardo Contreras
Adrian Glave click the time stamp, click again an you'll get a pop out window - Simon Wicks
screw you! - Ross Johnson
Screw you! - David Lloyd
time stamp? - 1x29
i don't get a time stamp - Preternat (Ken Cadby)
blocked... Leo needs some mods in here to take care of the worst of the worst - Chris Heath
facebook.com/screwyou - Callum
Amazon's cloud was struck by lightning - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009... - Michael Mooney
Thanks to Greg Byrne for pointing out how to block. AhronZombi blocked. - Gold
Preternat: "10 minutes ago" - Michael
"4 minutes ago" at the top - Greg Byrne
It's at the top where the conversation time was started - Stephen Pickering
the gilmore gang is crap - AhronZombi
8 minutes ago is the time stamp thing.. - Simon Wicks
what the heck is dvorak's picture? - Ross Johnson
You don't need moderators here. Each user is free to block whomever they want. - Kevykev
breaking news: the Pre will be successful - Jeremy Stanley
Sorted :) Thanks, all :) - 1x29
Interesting that the feed is a little faster than the video feed. It's like it's clairvoyant. - Scott Thomas
i disagree chris... a lot of blocks on someone should eventually become good metadata. i'm good with that - Preternat (Ken Cadby)
pre aint going to cause a shopping spree - AV
Scoble is always saying how great FF is at moderation, we should make use of it - Greg Byrne
AhronZombi:"Anarchy , hacking, and porn". You do know that Anarchy is not the same as being a complete wanker in public right? - Gold
Gold, don't feed the troll - Chris Heath
ah, thx y'all... yeah, time stamp at the top - Preternat (Ken Cadby)
Any word on how open the Pre will be for programmers to develop for? As open as Android? Not as much? - Darren Landrum
Everyone complains about ATT, am I the only one who has no complaints about their coverage. Okay they have a tower down the street from our house. - Paul Blasman
14-year-old student finds new type of solar explosion - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009... - Michael Mooney
I'm in an AT&T black hole - HeavenLike
Paul, ever had to deal with ATT's customer service? - Christopher A Carr
Paul, i only complain that there's no 3g in my city while smaller cities nearby have it - Chris Heath
G1 (T-Mobile) and iTouch is better than switching to iPhone with AT&T. - Gary Kostrivas
There's free tethering apps on T-Mobile for the G1!!!! - Ross Johnson
Wil's right - Jeremy Stanley
I've always assumed that all the Customer Service Reps suck! - Paul Blasman
Pre's biggest problem is going to be the next wave of phones running Android 2.0. - Christopher A Carr
That's ATT hacking Dwight's connection - Devon Blugh
iphone or pre? - Paulo Custodio
I find t-mobiles's reps to be much better than ATT's. - Christopher A Carr
Yup, interference gone :) - 1x29
How can Palm not have any plans for a world GSM version yet? - Thomas Søndergaard
AT&T realized they've been discovered...no more interference - Devon Blugh
I think Android will suffer the same problem as Windows Mobile, multiple handset manufacturers and no consistency of user experience between phones. - Callum
Should I pay for an ETF when the Pre comes to Verizon? - Jeremy Stanley
Looks like according to the details, the full price only applied to people with the 3G iPhone... - Jamison Judd
first palm needs to survive thomas - vondutch
Thomas, I think they do, just no planned release date - Devon Blugh
I've had positive experiences with both Windows Mobile and Android so far. - Ross Johnson
Verizon doesn't line wifi on their phones though... - Joel W Tscherne
But is it really worth it for Apple to create a CDMA iPhone? - Michael
I was on verizon for 7 years. I loved verizon but i never liked any of their phones. I went to the iphone - richie hernandez
Michael - how hard is it to make another chip? - Paul Blasman
Verizon likes too much control on their handsets... - Ari
verizon would love to have the iphone - Chris Heath
My concern exactly Joel - I'll bet if the iPhone comes out on Verizon it doesn't have wifi - Mark Moran
I don't think so Callum. The UI will be pretty consistent, and there are only so many handset styles that work well. WinMo sucks on it's own... - Christopher A Carr
Paul - They need to write the drivers for the CDMA chipset, too. Put it through FCC testing, etc. I just don't know if it's worth it. - Michael
Verizon turned down the iPhone. Think they would make a different decision now? - Scott Thomas
I bought my iPhone in April so I'm stuck with the 3G for awhile. Of course I'll get the next version! - Joel W Tscherne
You can get refurb 8Gig 3G for $79, that's a tempting upgrade - Paul Blasman
Thats just mobileme, not the 3g s - Simon Wicks
I realized that the iPhone 3GS and Palm Pre have the same CPU and graphics chips - Matthew
You can turn it off on the phone too - Mark Moran
paul $99 for the old 3g - Chris Heath
And a thief can turn off the location service on the phone. - Michael
cold medicine - Scott Thomas
O2 Pre-Pay iPhone 3G 8GB - £342.50, iPhone 3G S 16GB - £440.40 & iPhone 3G S 32GB - £538.30 - Michael Mooney
Ahmedinejad! - Michael
give up the link to the funny Apple commercial plz :) - rob friedman
MobileMe is garbage IMHO. - Bill Grant
There's a little uvular fricative in Ahmedinejad... - Christopher A Carr
MobileMe is too expensive but it's nice when you rebuild a Windows PC and Contacts and Calendar items are synched to Outlook. - Callum
To be fair to CNN, they're doing a much better job in Iran coverage today. They're still claiming they need us to wait until they properly package their coverage, though. - Jim Stanger
I hope they mention the reasoned anaysis of the Iranian election here: http://www.tomstechblog.com/post... and not just claim CNN is dead - Greg Byrne
LOL - HeavenLike
it's not just CNN though - Chris Heath
i think i would get mobileme if it was $52 - richie hernandez
Callum I agree, Mobileme should come with the iPhone service - Paul Blasman
you can find mobileme greatly discounted lots of places, i think it's $69 at amazon - James Tussey
Just use Google Sync instead of MobileMe... works great for me. - Jason Hansen
I got it for $69 when I bought my new MacBook Pro - Joel W Tscherne
It's entirely too easy to create fake Twitter accounts pretending to be anywhere in the world, though. How can we verify which Twitter accounts are genuine and which are not? - Darren Landrum
content... not context on Twitter. Though journalism might not always get context right - Jeremy Stanley
Good point Darren - Callum
I heard on the radio this morning that foreign journalists are being arrested and confined to the hotels. - Johnny Worthington
should get Scoble's wife on to talk about Tehran - Chris Pugh
Yes, GPS did great coverage - Jim Stanger
darren landrum over time, and vetting. it's not always possible, but usually - Preternat (Ken Cadby)
Does anyone know if "The Daily Show's" Jason Jones is still in Tehran? - Jeremy Stanley
@Callum: There were accusations of some of the Iranian Twitter accounts being fakes. It's hard to tell. - Darren Landrum
Fareed Zakaria gets it. - Ken Sheppardson
Were news outfits not aware that Iran was having elections? - Bill Grant
there's a middle ground, though. CNN reporters can tweet just as well as any new iffy account - Jim Stanger
In the end, we have to use our own intelligence and make our own decisions about what and who to trust. - Darren Landrum
bill grant good point, but people should also demand it - Preternat (Ken Cadby)
Are there any "Verified Accounts" from Twitter users in Iran? - Ken Sheppardson
But how do you cover things when you are about to get arrested? - Johnny Worthington
Apple need thier own digg site to take on AP & REUTERS with user content. - Michael Mooney
@Ken yep... i guess the point is our first (not necessarily the best or most accurate) place to get breaking news might be twitter. The trending topics are amazing. - Bill Grant
Can't trust eyewitness accounts. We don't know the real source of the tweets! - Joel W Tscherne
but the MSM had people reporting from hotel rooms in Bagdhad while we were attacking. They can report under tough circumstances. they have for decades - Jim Stanger
@Joel, i have to kinda agree, look at the Digg army and the faked front page stories as an example. - Ryan Scullen
otoh i felt i usually got better overview with a weekly magazine or hour pbs show. up to the minute news isn't exactly highly enlightening, in general - Preternat (Ken Cadby)
HI all my first time in this. - caffeinefreedavid
You should not take everything posted on twitter as gospel - Greg
We only see something from one individual's point of view. Many conspiracy theories are still alive because ONE person claims to have seen something that can't be easily disproved. - Joel W Tscherne
Leo, does a Re-Tweet count as a second source? - Gabe
up-to-the-minute speculation is especially aggravating - Preternat (Ken Cadby)
I think the problem is that it was the weekend... the news stops then - Jeremy Stanley
Then they jump on a story too quick and it's a prank call - Mark Moran
no it doesn't gabe - Chris Heath
if you Apple made it a yearly membership that will help - Michael Mooney
Flickr has a great photostream - Howard Losiewicz
The day CNN or any other "major news outlet" goes on the air to simply report on what they're reading on Twitter is the day they lose any last shred of credibility. - Ken Sheppardson
agreed ken - Chris Heath
I don't want my news channel to tell me what it means - I'll figure it out for myself - Mark Moran
You're right Ken. - kenneth glenn
Context is everything in live coverage - Gabe
@Greg Agreed (on twitter <> gospel) but I think people used to think of the news media as gospel and this is also incorrect. People are better off taking lots of sources and drawing their own conclusions. This was mentioned during the last or second to last twit... - Bill Grant
The reporters had an early night as they had been up getting their Facebook URLs - Greg Byrne
This is the service that is summarizing the real-time web version of the Iran events - http://iran.twazzup.com/ - Chris Saad
Unfortunately old fashioned TV/Radio companies have cut their budgets so much that I'm surprised they do ANY live international reports - Joel W Tscherne
If you want random 140 character anecdotes from anonymous sources, you've go Twitter. If you want somebody to spend a few hours collecting information, verifying sources, and asking follow-up questions, you've got CNN - Ken Sheppardson
Bll Grant true but at least you know with networks where to complain.. it twitter u have anonymous postings - Greg
Tell us when it means, no way. But, giving us information so we can evaluate for ourselves. They have access to lots of experts...ones that don't yell and scream their points. - Jim Stanger
There is no rush. John nails it. - Ken Sheppardson
yup - Chris Heath
The BBC picked up the riots pretty quickly. They've been covering the whole event for weeks. Even a breaking news banner for CNN would suffice, regardless of edited footage, surely they have journalists on the street. - Daniel Rowley
It's not about rush - it's about avoiding the filter - Chris Saad
Why do we watch car chases? Because we're idiots. - Ken Sheppardson
If stringers can provide accurate context and journalistic style coverage they would be worth paying leo - Gabe
There are never any car chases where I live in North Carolina. - Michael
@Greg I suppose, but I think people just assume journalists are by definition balanced when in reality everyone has a bias. - Bill Grant
Great conversation, excellent guys! - Ryan Massie
CNN is willing to go hours and hours with talking heads speculating on the newest detail of a missing girl story, but they won't do the same for major world events - Jim Stanger
Haha Michael only once every 5 years - kenneth glenn
When people are streaming video, is that mis-information? - Colin
The newsrooms have been victim of cost cutting for years now. Cheaper to have shows with talking heads. Now, we can't get real news because they don't have people positioned in the hot spots of the world. - Eric @ CSTechcast.com
cave man instinct. hard to overcome. like tribal prejudice. hmm, going of on tangent now :) - Preternat (Ken Cadby)
People want to always be the first to tell a story. It's why they can often be wrong! - Joel W Tscherne
Kenneth - I'm just down the road from you in Chapel Hill, but within spitting distance of the Durham line. - Michael
@Colin Interesting.... but we all know that even video can be misleading if taken out of context. - Bill Grant
On the other hand, CNN will spend 6 hours on a fixed shot of some plane sitting on a tarmac speculating about what's going on inside with no real information whatsoever, so... there's a bit of a double standard. - Ken Sheppardson
I mean we criticize them for that. - Ken Sheppardson
CCCC - Car Chase Cable Channel - Dave T
Damned if they do, damned if they don't. - Ken Sheppardson
Conversation is such a lame buzzword~~~ - Ross Johnson
CNN INternational had great coverage on Twitter and on their network this weekend. The people who decided NOT to switch to the International feed should be fired. - joebrooks
24/7/365 live as it happens off a ticker kills the story for most viewers - Michael Mooney
That's the definition of news isn't it, up to the date information. - Daniel Rowley
I wonder if BBC was covering the events in Iran faster than the US new stations? Is the US new stations only caring about in-the-country-news? - Ryan Scullen
why does the "twit live desktop 2.0" only do audio now? it used do video a few weeks ago. ....ah it worked as soon as I opened a twit live tab in my browser. Odd - Ian Murphy
I was in Egypt recently and I was amazed about how different the CNN International stories were from the ones on CNN in the U.S. - Bill Grant
Daniel: No. Live 24x7 streams of everything happening everywhere all the time isn't "news". "News" is somebody with some experience and judgement filtering out stuff that matters and flagging it for others. - Ken Sheppardson
News isn't news if it isn't accurate. That just makes it rumor. - Joel W Tscherne
They could certainly provide a background or base to help evaluate events when they happen. They have access to all sorts of historians and experts that can provide useful info without the speculation of the breaking news moment. - Jim Stanger
jim stanger bugs me too... angers me. chichen and egg tho... also have to blame the consumer who's buying it. - Preternat (Ken Cadby)
Ryan: the BBC were covering events way before CNN. - Daniel Rowley
I also thought @BreakingNews on twitter was doing SUPERB coverage of the events in Iran. - joebrooks
The other problem with TV news is the need to be commenting on every story. I don't care about pundit Joe Blow's opinion on a topic. - Joel W Tscherne
Why isn't what I had for lunch "news"? Because it's irrelevant to everyone except me. We know that because "journalists" watch the live feeds and call our attention to what's important. - Ken Sheppardson
@Richsanchezcnn was doing a better job than CNN recommending ppl to follow - kenneth glenn
this show has more scoops than ben&jerry's - vondutch
The role of journalism is to watch the live feeds and tell us what's important, what matters, and what's going to affect our lives. - Ken Sheppardson
@donlemoncnn kinda angered me. It was along the lines of "hey I gave Iran 10min tonight. What more do you want?" - Jim Stanger
...and verify. Check sources, make sure not so spread rumor, put things in context... - Ken Sheppardson
however, he's on right now stepping it up tremendously. - Jim Stanger
Joel - agreed. i see more straight to the actual events news here in canada. US has too many "news celebrities" that skew information WAY too much with their commentaries. - Ryan Scullen
Good point Dwight. I love reading the same story in multiple ways in my rss reader. - Joel W Tscherne
you can do a nearly 24/7/365 live as it happens off a ticker but you have to have content to help viewers understand the ticker news - Michael Mooney
but Ken, those feeds offer a narrow view of a situation, with very little context. A remote aggregatior can't provide that reliably - Gabe
What do you mean "but" Gabe? What did I say that you disagree with? - Ken Sheppardson
I don't mean "feed" as in sit there watching Twitter, I mean everything that's happening everywhere. I was speaking figuratively. Sorry... - Ken Sheppardson
@micheal that's why i don't understand why ccn cut ccn-text, that was very informative - vondutch
Ken: I don't think news should just be information that affects our lives. We can understand and have reported information streamed to us without it necessarily having any direct impact upon us. - Daniel Rowley
Whose picture is that on the video feed for TWIT? That bearded guy does not look like the chief cranky geek. - Bill Grant
What about Libel or Slander. How can you trust what is being "reported" - William
Bill, it's Dvorak's skype avatar - Chris Heath
voice of san diego rocks! - Jeremy Stanley
@Chris LOL thanks, must be as accurate as a SecondLife/WoW avatar - Bill Grant
I'm saying that traditional journalism has the advantage of trained professionals on the ground rather than armatures that might not know what questions to ask, video to shoot, and could get themselves hurt if they are not careful - Gabe
Daniel: I disagree. If it doesn't affect other people, it's not news. It's the journalists job to *explain* HOW it affects our lives. - Ken Sheppardson
Classifieds (which is what Craigslist is destroying) was the crack cocaine of newspapers. Classifieds aren't related to the news or delivering the audience of news. Classifieds could appear anywhere that enough eyeballs collect. The audience for NEWS is differerent from the audience for classifieds. That so many newspapers depended upon the easy money of classifieds was a convenient drug. Now newspapers are going cold turkey and need to find how to live with the smaller NEWS audience. - JR Holmes
bill, he used to have a rainbow clown hair avatar - Chris Heath
@Ken - I disagree. What happens in Iran does not affect my life. That statement is only true the more local the story MIGHT be. - Ryan Scullen
@Chris Now that sounds more accurate :-) - Bill Grant
Ryan: I didn't say what's going on in Iran doesn't affect us. It does. The news outlets need to explain why. Tweets in isolation don't do that. Twitter is raw material. - Ken Sheppardson
Hi. We probably chatted on irc. I like to continue conversation in a less crazy way and not that fast:) - Please 'friend' me or let's follow each other at Twitter @buckybit - Like to connect. Thanks, Twit Army:) - Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
it would be nice if the major news programs at least had a ticker at the bottom. Wish they spent more on their research, correspondents and less on their gee wiz gimmicks. - Kim Landwehr
Ken: how does it affect your day to day life unless you have family or travel plans to the area? My point is your statement is true for local stories, but not necessarily for international stories. - Ryan Scullen
Journalism and news aren't just a matter of narrating what you're watching. You need to have context and explanation. - Ken Sheppardson
@Ryan This Earth is getting smaller, 100 years ago I bet someone could say something happening a state over doesn't affect him/her. - Bill Grant
Ryan, I don't agree at all. That's like saying what happened in Afghanistan in 2000 didn't effect us. This is Iran, a country our leaders love trying to make the next bad guy. What happens there will effect all of us. - Jim Stanger
Nigel Planer did an episode of Carpool which was a good watch - Iain
Does Friendfeed have other "conversations"? Like for the Iran Election? - Randy Willard
Libel/Slander: If you mess up as a journalist, like make stuff up, then you don't work again in the business. You'll then have to become a blogger or find another industry. - William
Ryan: Great question. I'm sure if you watch The News Hour on PBS on Monday they'll have 10-15 minutes with experts who'll put it all in context for us. Or, we can just watch random tweets from people allegedly in Iran. - Ken Sheppardson
@Bill Grant The compressed world is what makes it important to me. As Jim illustrated, it is important because the US will need to respond in some manner and that will cost you money. - JR Holmes
Randy, this is a 'room' or 'group' created by leo for the specific purpose of discussing the live stream shows ... there's nothing stopping someone from starting an 'iran-election' group - but getting people to coalesce around the group is the hard part... that doesn't happen easily/quickly - Chris Heath
Randy: Other FriendFeed conversations on the Iran elections - http://friendfeed.com/search... - Ken Sheppardson
@JR 100% agree... Things that happen in other countries matter to me in a way that might not have affected my great grandparents in their time. - Bill Grant
yeah ken, a search is a good way to find stuff - Chris Heath
Jim - I agree that stories can impact us later, but international stories tend to have less of a direct impact compared to national stories. - Ryan Scullen
I really like the new friend feed, they've done a good job improving it to make it useful. - Bill Grant
OK, I'm not familiar with FF yet, and wondered if it was possible. thanks - Randy Willard
i back john.c's comment - Michael Mooney
@Ryan Well true that the things that affect you most are the closest (at least usually). - Bill Grant
in a bigger context, i see vetting (eg journalistic) sources as an essential act that everyone should learn... as demonstrated even here, in ff. i need to be able to assess, then depend on a hierarchy of reliable sources above me. it takes time to do that - Preternat (Ken Cadby)
Ken - news organizations can get access to more 'official' sources of news (aka government representatives) but we all know that PR does not tell the real story. tweets as raw info, at least to me, is more valuable. RTs don't count. twitpics = more legitimacy. - Ryan Scullen
@Ryan True. I just cringe when we as a nation don't pay attention to something that happens beyond our borders until it's about to bite us in the keester. Forewarned/Forearmed doesn't seem to apply to our society. - Jim Stanger
The web's going to take over the console business - Stephen Pickering
Sims 3 sets franchise record 1.4 million copies in first week http://news.cnet.com/8301-10... - Jim Lyons
low cost, small sized games like Tetris are the way to make money - Michael Mooney
my first real use of ff... i wish i could see avatars to help me remember what comments belong to who - Preternat (Ken Cadby)
My current favorite game is the NY Times Crossword app on my iPhone! - Joel W Tscherne
Jim - once news organizations have a crystal ball to tell us the future with 100% accuracy, I'm ditching web news and watching tv news again lol. - Ryan Scullen
World of Goo anyone??? - Ross Johnson
Leo: Basis for that statement, please. - Ken Sheppardson
which statement (for me and for the record here)? :) - Preternat (Ken Cadby)
sounds like an eeePC model # - Gabe
That's the plot for Deep Impact. 14 year old spots the comet first - Joel W Tscherne
"Sepulveda [Pivotal Labs], whose group builds applications for companies wanting mobile offerings, said he’s advising his clients — Twitter, BestBuy and Salesforce among them — to start on the Pre. The phone’s operating system, called WebOS, offers the most compelling place to build and test a prototype, for both cost and technology reasons, he said." -- http://venturebeat.com/2009... - Ken Sheppardson
give palm pre some time for people to develope before you write it off - Omar Atin
Did I just hear that right, one side of the USB ports on a Mac are better than the other? - Bill Grant
yup - Ross Johnson
Something wrong with the mac? This bit will be edited out - Greg Byrne
I would like to start dev for the Pre, but I don't think its got the base OS to pull off a casual games platform. I read on Gizmodo i think that the Pre's REAL target competition will be the blackberry. - Ryan Scullen
"Got a Pre? Like Nintendo? If you fit in the overlapping intersection of that particular Venn diagram, then have I got some good news for you. Some enterprising individuals over at the Pre Dev Wiki have gotten a NES emulator up and running on the Palm Pre." -- http://www.crunchgear.com/2009... - Ken Sheppardson
You need to have a puppet TWiT! - Ryan Massie
I moved off of this conversation and I have no idea how to get back.... Now I need to keep hitting the comment link at the top every time. This could be a little more intuitive. - Bill Grant
I think we just heard this weeks title "Face Squatting" - Paul Blasman
xbox live + XNA Game Studio 3.1 is the way to go - Michael Mooney
bill hit the time link to the left instead - Preternat (Ken Cadby)
The one that was interesting was default.aspx that I saw - Bill Grant
@Ken and @Greg -- thanks guys! That was not obvious (to me at least) - Bill Grant
omg the dot is ignored. I feel silly now. i actually spent a few minutes and considered whether to put the dot in my name or not. - Jim Stanger
there is a tie in Wil, its called FriendFeed - Gabe
This must the best/funniest Facebook name grab: http://pauliukas.com/randomf... - Paulius G
jim and bill... this techy stuff is just unnatural! - Preternat (Ken Cadby)
I got nothing at Facebook. I have no desire to get a Facebook account - Greg
Y'all are assuming people want totally overlapping professional and personal social graphs. That's certainly not the case. - Ken Sheppardson
At one point when FF was going through its beta upgrade they had a link to thread button, don't know why they removed it - Greg Byrne
Or... in six months we will have forgotten about Face Book when the next great thing comes out - Paul Blasman
myspace is the new AOL - Gabe
Jim, I had the same issue when i found my name. It is not clear. - Judith Gerdin
The name grab was insane. It's a fraking _walled_community_!! - Gold
It WAS a walled community - Stephen Pickering
It also has the same stigma as AOL too. - Gold
Oh wow - he just advocated to hand over the entire social web to Facebook - genius :S - Chris Saad
@Ken Cadby Hah!... Well I guess I can program a computer but that doesn't mean I know how to use one... ;-) - Bill Grant
I sorta think the only services really threatened by Facebook are MySpace (direct competitor) and Classmates. - Ken Sheppardson
i'm surprised classmates is still around - Chris Heath
Broadband killed AOL. It was more of a connectivity platform rather than a social platform - Stephen Pickering
Chris - yeah me too - Paul Blasman
Facebook is not using OAuth or OpenID (OpenID is promsied) - Chris Saad
Stephen: _Was_ a walled garden? How is it not now? I still get links where I need to log in to see things. Can't think of a time it's not been this way. - Gold
@bill grant are you a fan of caffeine? - Preternat (Ken Cadby)
Yes, you are right. I grant you that - Stephen Pickering
Chris: Well, considering we've ranged from the Iran elections to video games to social networking, I think we maybe just have to nod and take this all with a grain of salt. ;-) - Ken Sheppardson
Ken - the competition is not even close. MySpace is the like AOL, Facebook is like Google. - Ryan Scullen
Gold - I agree that is why I've stayed away from FB. - Paul Blasman
Classmates must make money from organizing reunions. Who would pay to contactsomeone you do not remember. - Judith Gerdin
Ryan: Fine. I'll concede the point. The only people who should fear Facebook is Classmates :-D - Ken Sheppardson
Caffeine. Mmmmmmmm - Randy Willard
And Leo just explained why Facebook will never "take over" - Ken Sheppardson
Paul Blasman: I've stayed away due to the T&C. I have no problem with the walled garden but the T&C are draconian. - Gold
Ken - lol I never liked the idea of classmates from the beginning - too much spam linking - Ryan Scullen
Gold - I didn't even want to go there! - Paul Blasman
Leo - you should be checking out your daughter account - Paul Blasman
3 million usernames have been claimed since Friday night ... in the first 14 hours, that is - Ken Sheppardson
Paul Blasman - Heh. :) I've had one friend from Auckland, NZ appear on those damned "This guys I.Q. is x. What's yours?" ads. He followed it up and they said they purchased it from Facebook. - Gold
facebook landgrab was soooo over hyped. Just another excuse for bloggers to have something to write about and for people to have another thing added to their business cards - Ross Johnson
Whether you have a vanity URL makes no difference, facebook has a search function: http://www.facebook.com/abbylap... - Greg Byrne
Omg that's funny - Paul Blasman
Heard from a colleague: kids are going to twitter with private profiles to keep the older people out. - Bill Grant
@Greg That works if you have a relatively unique name or as long as you post a picture... - Bill Grant
Fastest Growing Demographic on Facebook - Women over 55 (2/2/2009) http://www.insidefacebook.com/2009... - Ken Sheppardson
lotta college kids on facebook. facebook can't die. it can be bought tho. - Preternat (Ken Cadby)
66% are 18-34 - Ken Sheppardson
78% are under 34 - Ken Sheppardson
Ken, do the math. - Judith Gerdin
only 8% are older than 45 - Ken Sheppardson
Once it becomes main stream, the geeks and the college kids will come up with something else - Paul Blasman
Which math, Judith? - Ken Sheppardson
...you mean the fact that the F>55 segment is growing fastest because it was almost nonexistent before? ;-) - Ken Sheppardson
sigh - Greg
Ken: between 18-34 and under 34 you're at 144% - Gold
Gold: under 34 includes 18-34 - Ken Sheppardson
as you might expect - Ken Sheppardson
Dont forget the total number of accounts vs the total number of active posting accounts is not the same.. just like twitter - Greg
Ken: and I look like a bloody idiot. ;) - Gold
Leo you already have LeoLaporte - rob friedman
erm /LeoLaporte - rob friedman
That's his fan page - Stephen Pickering
ya, well, once a URL is used you can never reclaim it unless it's trademark. so his fan page is him. :) - rob friedman
That'll teach me for only reading half the discussion. I should get back to work. :/ - Gold
All fan pages with a thousand fans or more got automatically assigned a while back - Stephen Pickering
Gold: No, I should've thought that out more before I posted... the way I wrote it was inviting that sort of interpretation... :-/. - Ken Sheppardson
Died in the US, right? - Ken Sheppardson
Still alive and kicking everywhere else? - Ken Sheppardson
Can't wait for flash on the Pre so I can watch Leo on the go. - jcunwired
ken - yea us only, canada is still kickin analogue till aug. 2011 - Ryan Scullen
Excuse me while I burry my 9-inch black & white in the back yard lol - Paul Blasman
very scandalous - rob friedman
I'm still going to keep my 9" black and white for my Apple ][+ monitor - Ken Sheppardson
I feel bad for the senior citizens but for anyone under the age of 65, if you didn't follow the hundreds of mentions of this conversion to digital, you might not deserve digital tv. - Bill Grant
Did you PAY for that phone? - Ken Sheppardson
lol ken - Chris Heath
Ken - mine is the TV I used for my Timex Sinclair ZX80 - Paul Blasman
Right... because that's the case, right? - Ken Sheppardson
If you have cable, you don't need to change anything. - Ken Sheppardson
I missed something. - Ken Sheppardson
I'll have to re-scan my Road Runner cable to see if the analog is still there - Paul Blasman
Yup... Comcast is flip-flopping http://www.mercurynews.com/technot... - Ken Sheppardson
I have Comcast and try using them with a cable card, they are hopeless. - Kim Landwehr
If not for wanting live sports, I'd just go to Hulu and streaming exclusively. - Ken Sheppardson
No, Leo is giving them away under a new promo called PreCrunch :) - jcunwired
cable is coax. can be ran straight to TV, or a cable box. straight to TV still broadcasts in analogue over coax. so comcast is illegally shutting off analogue over coax, cause if they can get 60% or more subscribers (i think, might be 80%) onto cable boxes, they can force everyone to switch. - Ryan Scullen
sorry my bad, those are rules for canada... not US... rules are probably different. - Ryan Scullen
What happened to this FCC ruling - "FCC Takes Action To Prevent Cable Companies From Dropping Digital Broadcast Networks From Analog Cable" - http://consumerist.com/299517... - Ken Sheppardson
Cool. People are starting up their proxies to help out the people in Iran. For example: http://twitter.com/HansPet... Awesome! - Holger Eilhard
Sony Bravia is high end expensive - rob friedman
"DVR" will just turn into a local cache - rob friedman
Bandwidth caps are the cable industry's attempt to preserve their business model. As DSL and the long-hoped-for wireless broadband get bigger, they run the risk of losing customers to competitors who don't do that limit. - JR Holmes
Well, Wil just got a ~100 follower bump. - Ken Sheppardson
gonna try and be Wil's 14,000th. In 3...2...1... - Jim Stanger
Bingo. 14K - Ken Sheppardson
Got it! - Jim Stanger
just added wil - Paul Blasman
oh...wait - Jim Stanger
No talk about EU/IE8 when there's an EU guest? - John Frazer
What BART station is that John uses for his background on Twitter? - Ken Sheppardson
What is John talking about, he is almost at 55,000 followers. Didn't he just ask to get up to 50,000? - Bill Grant
Oh look at her eye's, she's soo blasted - Paul Blasman
wow shes um yeah - Alfredo
Benadryl - Ken Sheppardson
that was cool - rob friedman
oof nice gaf - rob friedman
Man, Letterman and Leo... pickin' on the 14 year olds this week... ;-) - Ken Sheppardson
hahahaha - Alfredo
the english foreign guy needs to get on mic better :) - rob friedman
awesome falsetto - rob friedman
that url should go here if anyone has it? - Preternat (Ken Cadby)
Rob Friedman: did you just say English and Foreign in the same sentence. LOFL - Bob Blunk
yea, :) well I didnt' want to say that any of his Guests were, except the guy who is, and off mic. :) - rob friedman
Sorry, posted wrong link first. Second one is correct. - Daniel Rowley
hey hey heyyyyy watching the rerun lol - Q B
Got to have the Mashable team on more often. ;) - Ben Parr
You should have talked about my video coverage from Computex http://techvideoblog.com/categor... , the ARM laptops cost only 100 dollars and will replace Apple, Microsoft and Intel - Charbax