Live Now: this WEEK in TECH 190 with... - TWiT Conversations

sweet... i like to watch on my pc in fullscreen and use my laptop for the irc chat and the embed ff discussion http://beta.friendfeed.com/twit-co... - Chris Heath

Thanks again chris :) - ralphsaunders

Ohhhh I like the Friend Feed + Twit Live thingy. - Stephen Heron

Testing... - Wilford Tibbetts

John is back great, love/hate him ;) - FullSite

Cool! It worked. lol - Wilford Tibbetts

new Bitgravity stream works great here in Germany ! FF Integration ROCKS! Greetings... - Frank Coburger

+1 - nautic3l

So Tony Hawk had a very extensive Easter Egg hunt for his fans and he ran the whole thing with Twitter - Great Event - http://minneapolis.metblogs.com/2009... - heyburt

#bitgravity stream in Italy is very good - FullSite

greetings Frank and alex - Chris Heath

he's cooking - FullSite

The question of the hour: Will Leo eat fire again after this week's TWiT? If not, what will he eat? That lenovo perhaps? - Daniel

cruchpad #CruchPad!!!! - FullSite

listen to twit 23 to get the discussion about the initial ebay purchase. dvorak slaughtered the deal - Jackson Pollock

Daniel - lol... - Wilford Tibbetts

first story: http://www.nytimes.com/2009... - Chris Heath

good night people (here is 00:22 am) will listen to the podcast...Ciao :-) - FullSite

That's business baby! - Daniel

thanks for the hreads up jackson and chris - Jamie

all stories: http://delicious.com/twit/190 - Chris Heath

Hulu is making money Leo - Jamie

hulu = NBC + Fox, right? - Ken Sheppardson

yes Ken - G Dub of the Carolinas

Hey this is a pretty good idea for commenting. What is this? Friendfeed? - Tokyo Dan

yep - Nick

Yes, Dan - Ken Sheppardson

welcome to friendfeed Tokyo Dan - G Dub of the Carolinas

the question is whether its making enough money to cover the increase in losses due to torrenting - Jamie

Whoa. On the main page? - Lise

I wish Hulu had more content and less restrictions, though its more the networks than Hulu. If all of BSG (mini-series to season 4) was on Hulu you wouldn't see me for a week - Daniel

just testing friendfeed - Matthew

twit 23: http://twit.tv/23 - Chris Heath

The UK doesn't need a hulu thing. bbci player... channel 4 after player (even if it does need to be improved). - ralphsaunders

and Id watch full ads as well - Daniel

@ralph project kangaroo would have been great... especially with Hulu integration (which was rumoured) - Jamie

target advertising - Daniel

I'd like Hulu more if they'd quit messing with methods of getting to my TV rather than my computer scren - G Dub of the Carolinas

if hulu is not making money then there is no hope for iptv - Zach Scott

loving the kshep TwiT hybrid - Steve Gillmor

Ralph - there are several shows on hulu that I would like to watch that take ages to come over the UK - Iain

I guess Leo stopped using the Stickam comment system. - Tokyo Dan

Hulu needs to realize a screen is a screen, and it doesn't matter what device is feeding it. - Ken Sheppardson

@Jamie I haven't heard of project Kangaroo.. but judging by the tense you used its no longer about? - ralphsaunders

Friendfeed integration on live.twit.tv is great - Rod Bauer

Hulu is the future, eventually data will be a utility for me to do with what I please and I will watch what I want and when I want to watch it - Daniel

@lain what heroes? or...? - ralphsaunders

tokyo dan, the stickam conversation is still happening on stickam, leo sees it on one of the laptops - Chris Heath

TV advertising down 6% in the UK... Internet up 17% but thats mainly due to search. Display advertising is pretty flat. - Jamie

Heroes, House etc - Iain

Martin: Whoever it is needs to get clued in :-) - Ken Sheppardson

------AD BREAK AUDIBLE.COM------ - Chris Heath

TWiT looks much better on BitGravity - C.B.

I can hear Calacanis from MAssachusetts..."Auuuudddibblllee..." - Daniel

I see two TWIT.tv threads on FF. - Tokyo Dan

@ralph it was shut down by the comeptition commission. it was essentially a collaboration between the BBC, Channel 4 and ITV... and the CC ruled that it would stifle competition in video content creation - Jamie

http://audible.com/twit2 - Chris Heath

I thought heroes was out on BBCi within an hour it was aired in the UK... i think thats down to the people who produce heroes - ralphsaunders

tokyo dan ... this is the official: http://beta.friendfeed.com/list... - Chris Heath

twacker hitted - Matthew

Ralph - I'm impatient though as it is a few weeks behind - Iain

same with Lost - Iain

Heroes is on BBC iplayer on the 'net, but not on iplayer via cable tv. It's bizarre - Ghworg

@Jamie, damn that sucks. Would of been cool - ralphsaunders

Hmm... with embedded FF entry, if you float over a username you get a pop-up, but it doesn't fit in the iframe. :-/ - Ken Sheppardson

sounds..... delicious.... I'll be here all week folks - Daniel

BBC don't have the rights for on demand Heroes via a set top box ghworg - Jamie

every place you want to view content requires a separate rights license - Jamie

Yeah the FF integration is very interesting. It makes the episodes searchable. - nautic3l

I love Splendid Table - bill giltner

How is this live FF stream with only comments on TWIT being done? - Tokyo Dan

@lain is it really 3 weeks? damn - ralphsaunders

Think it's 3 - could be wrong though Ralph - Iain

im so jealous.. lol - jplusa

Tokyo: Leo creates an entry on FF for each show. That entry's embedded on live.twit.tv in an iframe. - Ken Sheppardson

cool - Tokyo Dan

But I'm trying to see it on the FF site. - Tokyo Dan

http://beta.friendfeed.com/twit-co... - Ken Sheppardson

Red Dwarf jumped the shark a little bit. - Matt Leifer

ff needs a comment button at the bottom of the feed when it is open - Zach Scott

@tokyo click the time stamp underneath the entry - Jamie

which is better 1080 p or 1080i - ralphsaunders

Tokyo - click the time stamp and you get only this conversation - Iain

keep on clicking - Sander

Such a bummer. I cn't get on the live stram - Francine Hardaway

Ah i always forget, cheers @Martin - ralphsaunders

Yeah :P - ralphsaunders

@ralphsaunders: 1080p. - Daniel Rowley

Red Dwarf jumped the shark, it killed the shark great show - jackygreen

wow... ustream ~10+ sec ahead of bitgravity?? - Ken Sheppardson

is it just me or is twit.tv down friends:pollock - Jackson Pollock

just you - Iain

is there anyway to comment when you have real time pop up opened? - Matthew

Matthew: just scroll to the bottom. Comment box should always be there. - Ken Sheppardson

If I worked at MS I'd be in the pub a lot too - Ghworg

Just combine Pub & Gun Club to save money. - Ken Sheppardson

Wasn't RD filmed using RED hardware?: http://www.red.com/cameras/ - Daniel Rowley

use this link Jackson Pollock http://beta.friendfeed.com/twit-co... - jackygreen

Sabotage! - Steve Durgin

The Pun Club could be amusing - Iain

ken, submit a bug about the mouseover in the embed http://friendfeed.com/about... - Chris Heath

The friendfeed beat is great - Daniel

beta* - Daniel

eric... my son.. john is funny - jplusa

Its teh cable companies! :P - ralphsaunders

thanks jacky - Jackson Pollock

fire ants? - Daniel

np - jackygreen

there isn't one in the popup, but there is one on the regular page. oh well - Matthew

the T word, no! - Daniel

It went down right after I clicked this link "http://beta.friendfeed.com/twi... - Ken Sheppardson " It brought the whole FF site up in that little comment window. - Tokyo Dan

those pirates - Daniel

hah. wil has the "crazy americans, always think terrorists are everywhere" -look on him. crazy yanks - Jackson Pollock

any backdrop/link to this story? I have no idea what they are talking about. - Jamie

Stopping people getting on the internet doesn't really cause "terror" though does it? - Ghworg

Lots of business relies on it - Iain

for the California crowd, it sure does - Daniel

They cut fiber. It's not just internet. Took down 911 service as well. - Ken Sheppardson

Story - http://www.mercurynews.com/topstor... - heyburt

weld ht e manhole covers shut ;-) - Greg

that would be poor design - Daniel

Ah, taking out 911 is more terrorism-ish. Didn't know that - Ghworg

John Connor was stopping skynet. Your Welcome California! - Daniel

well, doesn't affect cell phones - Jackson Pollock

Harden the internets? - Steve Durgin

Don't click on links in this window cause the website will come up in this little window. - Tokyo Dan

A ship can drop anchor in the wrong spot and take out a cable - Steve Durgin

nooo - Sander

Interesting that its most recently that we've been seeing more news on this sort of thing. Between the malware in the power grid, these fiber sabatoges, and the Chinese GhostNet (Security Now had a great ep on it), its certainly been an interesting cluster of seemingly related events. - Curtis Schweitzer

Do the MAE-West/Central/East exchanges still serve as the critical aggregation that they used to? - Ken Sheppardson

you got a Solid Snake stache - Matthew

Well everything can be disabled since you can not guard all of the infrastructure - Greg

the internet is more cobweb then web - Daniel

nice! i could see me noo on live.twit :) alright alright i know aim silly - Sander

my cousin mikie! - Daniel

"Mikeyy, he'll hack anything" - Matthew

:) NoScript - Sander

Clearly the terrorists are after Twitter too ;) - Curtis Schweitzer

thanks to Steve Gibson, tip of the hat =) - Sander

that's leo's standard pre-puberty voice tho - Jackson Pollock

Noscript doesn't help if you use twitter, because you will have enabled js for twitter is you use it regularly - Ghworg

Ya twitter is a critical part of the internet according to Leo - Greg

i was borred =) so ..... - Sander

He's a child. - Francine Hardaway

I think IE8 is ahead of the other browsers here in respect to anti-XSS - Jamie

thats stupid - ralphsaunders

"An open letter to the FBI..." - Ken Sheppardson

omg:p - Sander

knock knock.. - Greg

He might be brighter than you think...If he didn't do it! - pmclem

be careful making fun of a kid who hacked twitter - Matthew

who's there?? - Sander

who's there? - Steve Durgin

Ice cream soda - Ken Sheppardson

FBI is Mikey there - Greg

micky!!! - Sander

Snake? - ralphsaunders

/me has totally lost confidence in twitter... i'm done with it... only send to it from friendfeed now - Chris Heath

Snake ! ! ! - Matthew

FBI @Greg yeah we have him :) - Sander

SNAAAAAAAKE?! - ralphsaunders

he's getting early to bed this week - Sander

lol - ralphsaunders

Why would he admit to it? He's a minor and knows full-well that he's going to get nothing more than slap on the wrist. - Phil Essing

lets ddos him :) - Sander

h - ScruffyDan

ya - Greg

hey leo, maybe he's german - Jackson Pollock

If friendfeed had a way to automatically make imaginary friends for all your twiiter contacts that aren't on FF then I'd probably stop going to twitter. - Ghworg

someone here has to hack the confiker bot net and then ddos micky :p - Sander

ghworg, you can, but have to add the feeds manually too it - Chris Heath

agreed ghworg. or at least simply implement a full client access into the site. so that all of your tweets come into FF. - Jamie

I hear the sound of lawyer, writing down everything that John just said - Kim Landwehr

a way to fight terms of service - people have wanted to do this for awhile haven't they? - Xenophrenia

Real time rocks. - Wo

it's standard phising. did it in high school and got everybody's itslearning accounts. basically just edit all the /dir/dir/ to http://twitter.com/dir/dir in the code and implement it. change the user and password boxes scripts to save input and then redirect to twitter.com, - Jackson Pollock

hey, that's real name - Jackson Pollock

If you can read this, send help! I'm trapped inside FriendFeed Beta and it's hungry! - Daniel

lets see, what we can find in the code - Sander

i'm from wyoming - Jackson Pollock

cody - Jackson Pollock

I think the Terms of Service contract, if it gave permission to hack, would be void as against public policy. - Michael

so you arent' the real jackson pollock? - ralphsaunders

Cool. My text was shown on twit. - Wo

ralph; en.wikipedia.org/Jackson_Pollock think again. - Jackson Pollock

that would be tough, as the real JP is dead - Phil Essing

phil; yeah, there's the small hole in the whole thing - Jackson Pollock

throwing paint at a wall has never been the same since - Phil Essing

is it not a problem that the api of twitter is so open? I mean cant they do something about it? like first mail to them and then have acces to the api?? - Sander

phil; don't disrespect. pollock was arguably the best american artist of the 20th century. - Jackson Pollock

next story: http://online.wsj.com/article... - Chris Heath

When I was in college we didn't have 100MB didn't exist :-/ - Ken Sheppardson

@JP and @PE I was about to say... - ralphsaunders

Emperor Jobbs. - Daniel

lol - Iain

The more you tighten your grip the more customers will slip through your fingers. - Ghworg

i would agree that he was arguably the best artist of the 20th century... and I would be on the side of the argument that says he was not - Phil Essing

i was waiting for that. - Jeremy Robbins

sure jobs still is ni power posituion - Sander

phil; good we have an expert like you here to straighten us out - Jackson Pollock

@leolaporte twit.tv Website is down for me. - Michael

somebody just said today he's leading the netbook effort... where was that... - Ken Sheppardson

micheal; me too - Jackson Pollock

http://twitter.com/gruber... - Ben Gold

Steve is currently working on an iPub for the Apple Campus - Lewis

@Ghworg Unless you use 2 hands! - ralphsaunders

michael: dog slow, but it works... - Holger Eilhard

so, having an opinion about a topic that is purely subjective is me presuming to be an expert? - Phil Essing

@Michael twit.tv is up for me - Bernardo Farah

Steve Jobs is like Fidel now: we never know what's true or not. - Fernando

well, yes, i am an expert on the topic of my own taste in art - Phil Essing

@jackson pollock I can ping it but can't get through on HTTP, so I think the Web server (Apache?) is down. - Michael

I'm loving the FF bit gravity mashup! - G Dub of the Carolinas

"BREAKING NEWS: Steve Jobs continues to do exactly what he said he was going to do while on medical leave. MUST CREDIT WSJ." - lol @ Gruber. Perfectly put. - Jamie

It wasn't an official statement about Jobs. It was a leak - Keith Makuck

Oh, twit.tv just came back for me. - Michael

Can't be sued for something someone said you said. - Keith Makuck

Apple *is* evil - Ghworg

phil; well, someone educated on the issue would have an argument about him and 3-4 others, not write him off immediately - Jackson Pollock

Apple may be evil, but it's OUR evil - Daniel

In the future there will be no need to login every site you go to... we will not need passwords - jplusa

they just saying, yeah steve is back, but he isnt :) just for the stock - Sander

FF Real time stream in the same window as TWIT is really cool. - Wo

leo needs 1password - G Dub of the Carolinas

michael; same here. wait long enough and you'll get text no css - Jackson Pollock

I jumped over to ustream - live.twit.tv down - heyburt

oh please... i need a degree in the arts before i can comment on art? - Phil Essing

Finally Dvorak is back! - Mike Vierow

google news wired news story about jobs link leo: http://blog.wired.com/busines... - Chris Heath

Steve is coming back. This is my prediction. - Wo

I agree with Cris - Jamie

This is like a chat room! - Mike Vierow

ind BitGravity is a bit slower, the stream is more buffering - Sander

But it's higher quality. - Mike Vierow

I genuinely believe he just needed time off to recover. but its no more serious than that. - Jamie

cool hé! like twitter but more like a chat - Sander

Apple makes more money with Jobs as the face - Matthew

Apple will throw in a surprise, Bill Gates will come in instead of SJ - Daniel

From the same fantastic sources that declared him dead five months ago... - Jack Zimmermann

ustream doesn't have this live friendfeed thing. - Mike Vierow

Like Fidel, Jobs will pass Apple to is less evil brother... :) - Fernando

now aim on the irc the live and here :) - Sander

thank god i have a fiew monitors :) - Sander

This is better than IRC. - Mike Vierow

If Jobs doesn't come back Steve Gillmor should run apple. - Wo

you can get that by it self at friend feed. - Jeremy Robbins

On an unrelated note, I'm bummed since FF threads are no longer real-time for me :( - Bwana ☠

Bwana, why aren't they real-time for you? - Matthew

mike, one thing irc has is tab-complete... wish i had that here - Chris Heath

I see Leo is holding a longboard skateboard on his ustream show info panel - Leo is radical - heyburt

What would we use tabs for here? - Mike Vierow

If Jobs doesn't go back, Kevin Rose should take over - Harvey Birdman

Tab-complete would be excellent. Not sure it is technically possible though - Ghworg

mike, in IRC you can tab-complete user names so you don't have to type them out fully and reduce the typo factor - Chris Heath

Gillmor - Wo

I'm telling you Jobs is working on the iPub for the Apple campus, Schilller Shots and Jonathan Ive is almost finished crafting the iPint Glass - Lewis

yeah ghworg, but i can still wish for it - Chris Heath

and the dance between yahoo and microsoft starts again, its like a soap opera that never ends - Kim Landwehr

Steve or no Steve. The person running the actual strategy and product development; the identity of Apple, is Jonathan Ive. Steve's entire success can be traced back to Ive' strategy and methodology. Steve and Jony talk once a day. He introduced Apple to the few products - fewer products that has been so successful. As an industrial designer, he changed the way Steve looked at products, materials, process. The white plastic cover of the Ipod, the scroll wheel click, the aluminium unibody. - Jackson Pollock

Beats me Matthew, one day they were, and then the next they weren't. I have to manually refresh threads now. - Bwana ☠

its all about the search market share - Jamie

yahoo gives MS another 10% - Jamie

Isn't Yahoo Search Google anyway? - Ben Gold

Bwana: Is your pause icon a little triangle or two vertical lines? ;-) - Ken Sheppardson

that's weird, I've got the real-time thread for TWiT open in a mini window - Matthew

Bwana: Look to the right of the screen and make sure Real-time is in bold and Standard is a link. - Michael

@Ben nop:) not the same - Sander

bwana: http://beta.friendfeed.com/twit-co... - Jackson Pollock

embed doesn't do pausing - ralphsaunders

Ken, I'm on the thread. No pause icon :) - Bwana ☠

talk about this device called "peek" - abie

Yes, I'm here - http://beta.friendfeed.com/twit-co... - Bwana ☠

Microsoft should acquire Yahoo...merge with Time Warner...run all online growth under TIME brand...Microsoft and Yahoo focus on Tech and Time Warner focus on content and style... THE front window of the future...imho - Jan Simmonds

Is the rest of Twit.Tv acting slow for anyone? - Mike Vierow

Bwana: If you're paused on the main site, i'll bet everything pauses - Ken Sheppardson

So let me refresh to see what you all said. - Bwana ☠

mike: yes; - Jackson Pollock

TWIT GOT TWITTED! - Mike Vierow

Ken - I'm not paused - Bwana ☠

@leolaporte: Jason Calacanis wants to join in. See his Twitter... - Holger Eilhard

------AD BREAK http://squarespace.com/twit ------ - Chris Heath

I just clicked that link Bwana, and it's real-time. maybe you got hacked by Mikeyy - Matthew

holger; quiet - Jackson Pollock

lol - Holger Eilhard

just kidding, john and jason don't go very well together. - Jackson Pollock

I skip the ads in the podcast. - Mike Vierow

Jeez... something leaking like a sieve in FireFox... mem is through the roof (243M and counting) BG player? - Ken Sheppardson

Holger: But Calacanis and Dvorak don't get along... - Michael

Do you have to be subscribed? - pmclem

I know, I know... - Holger Eilhard

the ads aren't too bad most of the time though cause it’s the gang talking about ti most of the time and it makes it interesting and involving. - Daniel

My firefox is at 310 MB, with no BG - Matthew

Did someone say balmer? - http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084... - ralphsaunders

and we are done with the Audible ad... - Holger Eilhard

funny this ad is going on. considering twit.tv is down - Jackson Pollock

my firefox is at 236 MB on OS X with BG - G Dub of the Carolinas

hmm - ralphsaunders

http://www.getpeek.com/ - abie

*tries something new* - ralphsaunders

Jackson: It's up here. No issues at twit.tv - Ken Sheppardson

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos..." title="pisstake of ballmer by rsaunders_ths, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084..." width="800" height="164" alt="pisstake of ballmer" /></a> - ralphsaunders

nah didn't work :P - ralphsaunders

not to mention this is being recorded - G Dub of the Carolinas

That's way too soon. - Mike Vierow

diggbar should be interesting... - Holger Eilhard

Before - ralphsaunders

Palm have to get out before the iPhone - Jamie

otherwise it will cut off its air supply. - Jamie

Funny video shows a toddler that loves the iPhone... http://bit.ly/4l7b6 - Matthew

jamie, agreed - Holger Eilhard

They'll release it as soon as they can get it ready. They're not gaming the release data around iPhone. - Ken Sheppardson

I popped my sim card in my blackberry pearl and my nokia e61... felt like I traveled back in time :) - Bwana ☠

those 1st Gen iPhone users are coming to the end of their contracts in June. Its Palms best chance - Jamie

ken, i use the twitlive air app (still on stickam) ... i've been nonplussed by the bg player so far - Chris Heath

Howard Stern was granted a private viewing with Palm of the Pre. For an hour and a half he used it, and then passed on it for a Blackberry. He did get the impression that it would be coming out in May, but not worth waiting. - Jackson Pollock

What's the point? They're all to expensive for me anyway. - Mike Vierow

Jackson: What I heard was as soon as he found out the Pre won't support Lotus Notes (which he needs) he punted. - Ken Sheppardson

whats the price for the pre? - ralphsaunders

looks like the Palm Pre will come out at a $199 pricepoint - G Dub of the Carolinas

or suspected price - ralphsaunders

ralph: not announced - Ken Sheppardson

see $199 is not bad - ralphsaunders

*hugs BlackBerry Storm* - Andrew

Howard Stern got a Blackberry because he uses Lotus Notes and niether the Palm Pre or iPhone have great Lotus notes support compared to the Blackberry - Matthew

ralphsaunders: for most probably the "it's not an iphone"... - Holger Eilhard

;) - Holger Eilhard

blackberry are finished imo - Jamie

Ken; that wasn't it. it just didn't do anything special. iphone has the browser, the podcasting. Blackberry the lotus notes and the keyboard. The Pre really didn't have anything. - Jackson Pollock

LOL - Bwana ☠

You cannot resist the iPhone. Join us, give in to your hatred! - Daniel

Dvorak cracks me up - Bwana ☠

looks like @jasoncalacanis is trying to get in touch with @LeoLaporte - Kim Landwehr

@holger tbh I hate the iphone keyboard >< - ralphsaunders

I have sprint SERO so I am very interested in the Pre - G Dub of the Carolinas

Where's Dvorak? - Mike Vierow

basting. - G Dub of the Carolinas

:p - G Dub of the Carolinas

i'm pleased w/ the iphone keyboard/touch - Chris Heath

One phone won't save an entire company. Too little too late. - Jackson Pollock

The Palm Prey vs the iPhone Predator - Lewis

ok this is why i hate apples - ralphsaunders

@ralphsaunders I'm fine with the on screen keyboard, but I can understand people who aren't. - Holger Eilhard

fiend feed "chat" huh? - clewellyn

Trust in the steve? wtf is this - ralphsaunders

I look at the Pre and think - the keyboard is too small. - Jamie

Ive is working on on-screen vibration to give feedback to your fingers. Matter of time. - Jackson Pollock

Sounds like Suretype :) - Bwana ☠

at least with the iPhone it figures out what I wanted to type - Jamie

@holger yeah its preference i guess. - ralphsaunders

It's funny how you can pick out people preconceptions and biases as they speculate with absolutely no real info whatsoever. - Ken Sheppardson

i trust in steve and that happens all the time... i never thought of it that way, but it does work - Chris Heath

I'm looking forward to the Pre in the hope it means I get a choice to make when I am ready to change my iphone - Iain

centro keys are tiny I went back to a palm 700p so I could type - G Dub of the Carolinas

too lmany - ralphsaunders

its user experience - ralphsaunders

we should all want the Pre to do well... the iPhone needs a proper competitor - Phil Essing

what the !@# are you talking about? - Ken Sheppardson

I really need to get an iPhone, i feel so left out. - Willem (@wim66) ☠

pre vs android is the story I'm looking at - G Dub of the Carolinas

the pre looks amazing but nothing is going to take me away from the iphone - Lise

I hate refreshing..going to irc - Bwana ☠

@ralphsaunders the apps, overall ease of use, etc. are more important than a physical keyboard for me... - Holger Eilhard

The pre is all about the web, the idea is to sync with the cloud not the desktop. A bad idea in my opinion, but we'll see - Ghworg

let's be honest. what made the iphone more successful than the others; 1. the design and interaction. 2. the brand and buzz. 3. the marketing and news - Jackson Pollock

what is the delicious url for this show? - Xenophrenia

i'm hoping that android will be mature in a year and a half when my iphone contract is up... i'll check in on the phone wars then and no sooner - Chris Heath

bwana your refreshing? - ralphsaunders

i don't think copy/paste in iphone 3.0 is a coincedence... i think the imminent Pre forced Apple's hand - Phil Essing

you shouldn't have to - ralphsaunders

http://delicious.com/twit/190 - Holger Eilhard

http://delicious.com/twit/190 - Michael

agree ghworg..the cloud works for a lot of things but not media - Jamie

NO!! Ive's team is 12 people, and has been the same team for 15 years. The original iPhone developers are at Apple still. - Jackson Pollock

bwana is trolling - Jason Nelson

lol @jason - ralphsaunders

:) - Jason Nelson

rubenstein wasnt even involved with the iPhone - Jamie

Andoid is great, but is there a quality handset using it, yet? - Phil Essing

:) - Mike Vierow

i posted the del.icio.us link way at the top... when the show started - Chris Heath

thnx - Xenophrenia

Is Android open source? - Mike Vierow

I want Andriod, but it needs a better handset than the G1 - Ghworg

the gmail client in android is killer. - Jamie

the gmail client on the iphone is killer too jamie - Chris Heath

the G1 is crap... horrible battery, ugly, and too thick - Phil Essing

The OS is great, the device sucks - Ben Gold

It's an OEM phone. People who love software, make their own hardware. - Jackson Pollock

did they build the G1 around a sidekick? they look a lot alike - G Dub of the Carolinas

what gmail client on the iPhone? the web app? - Jamie

everyone agrees the problem with android right now is the G1 hardware - Chris Heath

lol thats not hacking - ralphsaunders

leo - ralphsaunders

aw how sweet, - Kim Landwehr

jamie, yes the web app is awesome - Chris Heath

leo teach em to mod! - ralphsaunders

"read this law book first..." - Ken Sheppardson

How is it possible to say the iPhone is fragile. Drop glass on the ground and it will break. What do you expect - Jackson Pollock

thats SO COOL - ralphsaunders

leo was anti Jailbreak for a long time, what changed? - G Dub of the Carolinas

for a web app its great but not fast enough. no real offline etc - Jamie

Gunther apple - ralphsaunders

let's see Jason and we can judge :-) - Ken Sheppardson

apple stayed the same is it for the tethering? - G Dub of the Carolinas

Nice john - ralphsaunders

John, come to Norway and we'll hook you up with some nice speeds - Jackson Pollock

Martin Unlucky - ralphsaunders

korea and japan have incredible ftth connections - Jamie

Sweden has such nice internet - ralphsaunders

Norway! We beat the Swedes every year, marone! - Jackson Pollock

home of the pirate bay :P - ralphsaunders

the bandwidth in the US shouldn't be as low as it is. - G Dub of the Carolinas

I have 100 right now, geeeq - Jackson Pollock

yeah but the US is huge! - ralphsaunders

24 here in the UK - Jamie

Gunther; it's a really, really really big country - Jackson Pollock

though some cable is 50 - Jamie

I have 6 MBit DSl and that's fast for around here - G Dub of the Carolinas

lol - Greg

Jamie for real? thats good - ralphsaunders

The cool thing here is that everything is a-sync, same speed up and down. - Jackson Pollock

Ok. That's funny. - Wo

http://www.speedtest.net/ - ralphsaunders

talk about Diggbar - G Dub of the Carolinas

WHEN WILL THE ZUNE DIE - Ben Gold

Can get 50MB on virgin media in the UK is some areas as they role it - have to pay £30 for the upgraded cable router - Iain

Is there an audio only twit feed? - Ken Sheppardson

sms story: http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article... - Chris Heath

4.83Mbps biatches! - ralphsaunders

We have a constant 50mb down here - Kiel Walker

twit.am is audio only - Iain

yeah for sure - ralphsaunders

ken: http://twit.am - Chris Heath

I love my unlimited text and data for 30 bucks a month - G Dub of the Carolinas

hey wyoming - Jackson Pollock

turn off? LOL - ralphsaunders

I remember 10 years ago when I was on 56K in the UK and the States were on 2/4MB - Jamie

the 50mb is only 1.5 up though which sucks so bad - Iain

along with 500 mins - G Dub of the Carolinas

Holy sh** - ralphsaunders

yeah that's a lot of texts - Chris Heath

Virgin looking into the 1.5mb upload though - Kiel Walker

"but she got a sweet deal on the minutes" lol - ralphsaunders

virgin have a harsh "fair use" policy though - Jamie

Who is on TWIT? I am not watching. - Kiko Cherman

GO COLORADO! - Mike Vierow

How can you disable texting? Seriously. - ralphsaunders

kiko read the title of this entry - Chris Heath

@Kiko: "Live Now: this WEEK in TECH 190 with @theRealDvorak, @wilHarris, and @nehalia"?! - Holger Eilhard

Virgin harsh fup but they never stop you downloading - Kiel Walker

I never text anymore - Kiel Walker

No geeks are cheap and use email. - ralphsaunders

Sometimes people get on. - Kiko Cherman

our generation in the uk are moving on to facebook rather than sms and mms - Jamie

He sits there and boucnes on his ball and occasionaly gets nerf things shot at him. - ralphsaunders

bah you beat me martin :P - ralphsaunders

It's so weird. SMS came to Europe fully in 2001-2002 - Jackson Pollock

text message is way to expensive to use. - Kim Landwehr

sms in the uk has been popular for years now - Iain

kim; about 10 cents per message - Jackson Pollock

as will says its super cheap - Iain

yeah, because calling is more expensive - ralphsaunders

Voicemail isn't here in Europe no. Nobody I know - Jackson Pollock

texting isnt cheap - Jamie

5-10p for 160 characters isnt cheap! - Jamie

Dvorak is funny - Kiko Cherman

John doesn't have voicemail - Jackson Pollock

unlimited text in '99 was $5 in the States. stopped using it years ago after I left t-mobile. - Jason Nelson

texting isn't cheap in the US - G Dub of the Carolinas

Jamie - Thats pay as you go which is a total rip off anyway - Iain

Jackson: In Germany 99 percent of cellphone users I know have voicemail enabled - Holger Eilhard

I think also in the UK its become very fashionable between (and i hate to use this phrase) the lower class to have the latest phone so that also boosts the market. - ralphsaunders

same on contract Iain - Jamie

Holger; on lan lins? - Jackson Pollock

on LAN lines* - Jackson Pollock

ok does FF have an ignore? - G Dub of the Carolinas

I think there has been a definite shift in the UK towards Facebook and Twitter over texting.. - Jamie

I didn't text much before the iPhone. - Scot Gardner

why doesn't anyone seriously question how much they charge for these messages - Xenophrenia

Gunther: What is it you're trying to do? - Ken Sheppardson

Jackson: land lines? not so much. I believe only Telekom is offering that. - Holger Eilhard

I guess I see it as cheap cos I have never in 9 years managed to huit my bundled limit - i think i have 4 months worth rolled over at my peak - Iain

ignore teh spammer we sem to have n the room - G Dub of the Carolinas

I agree Jamie... to facebook deffinately... the more 'plugged in' group of my friends have also moved to twitter although that is a small minority - ralphsaunders

Holger; Americans expect a box that answers the number they are calling, and that they can leave a message there - Jackson Pollock

gunther there's a block go to their page and block (next to subscribe) - Chris Heath

thx - G Dub of the Carolinas

who did he think he was e.e. cummings - Kim Landwehr

Bob Cringely did that to me once - Jackson Pollock

I see the same hockey stick growth curve in twitter as I saw on Facebook Ralph - Jamie

person has a private feed - G Dub of the Carolinas

Jackson: :) well, but they also get charged for being called. A thing I probably never will understand... ;) - Holger Eilhard

gunther, doesn't look like the beta has the block on it.. go here http://friendfeed.com/sarrah0... - Chris Heath

Thx Chris - G Dub of the Carolinas

Holger; I agree. The phone companies own the Congress - Jackson Pollock

Jamie really? Maybe among the older of the people I know across the internet but among the chavs i don't see any adoption. - ralphsaunders

i blocked as well - Chris Heath

leo better has the diggbar on his agenda :) - Holger Eilhard

Follow me on Twitter! @mvierow - Mike Vierow

trust me ralph... twitter is next. adoption here is far quicker than the States. but I agree its starting with an older demographic.. - Jamie

The diggbar is balls. - ralphsaunders

B G buffering - Greg

You can also report spam FF users at http://beta.friendfeed.com/friendf... - Ken Sheppardson

Yeah I can see twitter being next. I think I might get into user interface development in that area... it might become profitable for a short while :P - ralphsaunders

And most expensive college system. - Jackson Pollock

Interesting essay on granting visas to folks who want to start companies: http://www.paulgraham.com/founder... - Ken Sheppardson

Why would you got to college in America? I don't get it... - ralphsaunders

They had schools then? - Ken Sheppardson

americans don't have much choice ralph - G Dub of the Carolinas

haha - ralphsaunders

ralph; me neither. looks nice on your essay, and is very efficient, but one step down; 100% free I can get right here. - Jackson Pollock

expensive to study abroad - G Dub of the Carolinas

Gunther I meant immigrants specifically - ralphsaunders

G Gunther; free school in scandinavia - Jackson Pollock

oh gotcha carry on - G Dub of the Carolinas

the UK is becoming expensive. and will get further if they raise the fees again to £5k - Jamie

Social Media - Ken Sheppardson

Physics - Ben Gold

Industrial Design. Beginning in august - Jackson Pollock

^-- joke - Ken Sheppardson

Social Media? - Scot Gardner

Nursing Education - Misha

journalism - Jayesh

Jamie: they are putting the same together over here in Germany... - Holger Eilhard

journalism - Kim Landwehr

Jayesh; there's a ballsy choice - Jackson Pollock

journalism is dead - G Dub of the Carolinas

Computer Security - Kiel Walker

----- AD BREAK http://gotomypc.com/twit ----- - Chris Heath

Leo became wi - Ben Gold

well leo said it would shock you - Jayesh

i like go to my assist ... http://gotomyassist.com - Chris Heath

http://gotomyassist.com is for remote access tech support sessions - Chris Heath

Man I was using citrix 10 years ago. Glad it's still around - G Dub of the Carolinas

I'm going with Jayesh on this one, it would be the most unlikely their for shocking - Kim Landwehr

gotomypc=citix - G Dub of the Carolinas

martin, have you tried gotomyassist? - Chris Heath

kim; bullseye - Jackson Pollock

gruber is going hard at the diggbar. must be about 10 consecutive posts. - Jamie

next story: http://www.forbes.com/2009... - Chris Heath

i win - Jayesh

when griber gets a bug up his butt, it festers :p - G Dub of the Carolinas

martin there's a free trial http://gotomyassist.com/night from net@night - Chris Heath

Chris: I think what you're doing with adding metadata to the feed is really cool. - Eric Florenzano

that is 100% true here in Scandinavia. Like trying to get into medical school - Jackson Pollock

eric, that's the point of all this (as i understand it) - Chris Heath

Jornalism schools are going to start teach Social Media, that would be my thought - Kim Landwehr

are my edits updating in real time?? - Chris Heath

everyone wants to be Perez Hilton - Matthew

No, edits don't update :-( - Ken Sheppardson

I agree with Kim. Journalism schools are also teaching blogging. - Joseph Ferris

we can always use more quality content - Jason Nelson

Everybody wants to be the next Arrington/Huffington - Ken Sheppardson

matthew the thing is, not everybody can be... there's only so many people who can be 'famous' - Chris Heath

Chris Heath, exactly - Matthew

Connecticut School of Broadcasting - Jackson Pollock

lol @ "the paul allen school of broadcasting" - Chris Heath

Who's Will? - Mike Vierow

The intertubes are getting clogged under the atlantic - Ghworg

mike: http://channelflip.com - Chris Heath

we need specialists with journalism skills... not journalists that want to write about specialists - Jason Nelson

There's still room for more Arrington/Huffingtons though. No, not everyone can be one of them, but definitely more can. - Eric Florenzano

wil haris from the uk, head of channel flip - Jonathan

wow leos update just hit through to live.twit.tv - ralphsaunders

John could use that - Jackson Pollock

No Flip - ralphsaunders

:P - ralphsaunders

I hate the term "Blogger". At this point, most of the large blogs are serious publications. - Eric Florenzano

hehe ;P - ralphsaunders

Scary thought, with written SAT's plummeting, journalism spiking - Jackson Pollock

Eric: Gruber had a post about that the other day, or quoted somebody... it's called "writer" :-) - Ken Sheppardson

Wil looks either tired or drunk. perhaps both - Jamie

Rumple of The Bailey - Greg

Jason just set up his ustream: http://www.ustream.tv/channel... - Holger Eilhard

journalism isn't all that great tbh - ralphsaunders

wil's got a great point here... - Chris Heath

Jamie: It is nearly 1am in the UK - Ghworg

Unfortunately that people think to become a professional "blogger" they need to get a grad level Journalism degree. Sigh. - Ken Sheppardson

This is good stuff. - Mike Vierow

Oh shit. :/ - ralphsaunders

With media expanding in every direction, people who want to be on screen and on air take journalism rather than media. more cred - Jackson Pollock

Ken: Exactly! How is it that Gruber is always right? - Eric Florenzano

Eric: 'cause he just writes to the right stuff other people say ;-) - Ken Sheppardson

s/writes/points/ - Ken Sheppardson

Ghworg - I know as i'm in the UK too. But Wil has been drinking. - Jamie

Theres 20 minutes til 1:00AM - ralphsaunders

Will doesn't look so good. - Mike Vierow

Whereabouts in the Uk do you live Jamie? - ralphsaunders

give him a break. laptop cameras are very nonflattering - Jackson Pollock

im a Mancunian but live in London at the moment. - Jamie

in the us; these days - Jackson Pollock

I'm in Nottingham Ralph - Iain

that's because Journalism is neutral - Ken Sheppardson

I'm in Devon at the moment :) - ralphsaunders

yeah, I'm one hour later too - Jackson Pollock

ooh - I like the new format - Jesse Stay

Jamie does it cost alot to live in London? - ralphsaunders

Nottinham is nice :P - ralphsaunders

the prices of houses here are insane ralph - Jamie

My sister lives in London and says it is expensive - Iain

im a recent grad and its all but impossible to get on the property ladder in london without a £30k deposit - Jamie

:/ ... i doubt I can afford to go to a Uni in London then - ralphsaunders

Nottingham is pretty nice yeah - discounting the idiots that you get in every city - Iain

Weird. As a tech guy I just have no concept of what you'd spend years learning in Journalism grad school - Ken Sheppardson

ouch Jamie - Iain

you're looking at £130 a week for basic Halls in London - Jamie

i have the same thoughts ken - Chris Heath

aww man - ralphsaunders

Can we hear some Leo early tapes. Hit the post - Jackson Pollock

*was* one of those guys? Leo is still one of those guys ;-) - Ghworg

I think that's true of every profession. I have mentors in the programming space. - Eric Florenzano

Leo the Grand-Mentor - Ghworg

and dvorak mentored Leo - Jamie

Let's hear a talk-up Leo - Jackson Pollock

I've never been able to figure out why a job posting site makes cable. - Ken Sheppardson

does anybody have any thoughts about Feedly? - Jamie

Let's hear Wil's take - Jackson Pollock

Would Leo beat up his hookers like the Sham-Wow guy?? I think not. - Chad Albert

We should all go to Amazon and give bad ratings to Monster cables - Matthew

Will hasn't spoke in awhile, I think he is having trouble hearing everything. - Kim Landwehr

Well talk to the lawyer, Wil? - Jackson Pollock

For years I thought it was Monster.com that bought the naming rights for Candlestick PArk - Ken Sheppardson

Diggbar! - Holger Eilhard

50gb nothing here - Kiel Walker

story link: http://www.informationweek.com/news... - Chris Heath

Cap. Welcome to 1999. - Jackson Pollock

unlimited - Jackson Pollock

Jackson: +1 - Holger Eilhard

i download 30gb a day - Kiel Walker

50 gb get you nowhere anymore - John

it was 5/10/40 to start with - Xenophrenia

If TWC caps me that badly, I'll buy a air card - Chad Albert

He said earlier that if you watched twit live 24/7 for a month, it would only be 174GB. - Mike Vierow

$150 is ridiculous. - archaictree

Carbonite would have an issue with a 50 gb cap - Chad Albert

I think the key word is reasonable, I am not sure cable companies know what reasonable - Kim Landwehr

174gb great i leave my computer on - Kiel Walker

here's an article of legislation to prohibit these companies from doing this http://digg.com/tech_ne... - Xenophrenia

i'm on roadrunner, and it's fine for now... no cap - afaik if they change the plans it will only affect new subscribers - i'd be grandfathered in - Chris Heath

i thought it be more than that - Kiel Walker

50GB is a handful of Xbox Live movies - Jamie

don't open to the door to this. - Jackson Pollock

Chris Heath: Thanks for the direct link - Jay Neff

jackson, the doors already open - Chris Heath

Everyone enjoying their weekend? - Jay Neff

Chris; in the US. - Jackson Pollock

Jamie its only a few hours of xbox live play if your the host - ralphsaunders

didnt know hosting was so bandwidth intensive.. - Jamie

some people can't afford 150 a month and use that much - Xenophrenia

How is IPTV going to succeed with this. it's an enormous roadblock - Jackson Pollock

I don't want to go back to how it was on dial-up when I had a clock by the side of the computer so I didn't spend too much time online and get a huge bill - Ghworg

Jamie: By definition it's bandwidth intensive :) Hosting = Bandwidth - Eric Florenzano

ghworg you did that? haha lo-tec :P - ralphsaunders

The cable companies are like crack dealers....get you hooked on the internet, then jack up the rates - Chad Albert

comcast is 200 or 250 - Xenophrenia

Limits cause people to be more conservative in their usage. They will be less likely to try new things, like streaming video. - Ghworg

Ghworg: Compuserve used to charge by the time and they had a big clock on the top right corner of the app. You could set it to kick you off after a certain duration. - Eric Florenzano

they are trying to protect their cable tv and prohibit online tv and video - Xenophrenia

Sure this isn't just a ploy to get people to lock down their Wifi? - Jackson Pollock

router firmware is the place to put the meter... or even better on the cable modem... then you could check on your account page for the isp - Chris Heath

$75 bucks a month is a better price for the top tier. - archaictree

jackson lots of ppl are locking down their wifi here... it's hard for me to get an open ap these days - Chris Heath

most routers come out of the box locked down - Jamie

with all media going to the internet, bandwidth caps are going to limit a lot of what you can do - Matthew

If people have limited bandwidth, they'll put a password on the Wifi and force their neighbors to get their own line. - Jackson Pollock

they are having an issue with people cancelling their cable and keeping internet and watching their video online ... that's what they are trying to stop - Xenophrenia

Chris; in san fran? - Jackson Pollock

$203 a month here for Internet and TV here :( I get about 10 down and 1 up - Jay Neff

$62 for 16 down 1 up. 200GB cap - Gabe

bwmonitor.com is a great little app and has great reporting built in - heyburt

30 Euro, 16M down, 1 up, no cap... - Holger Eilhard

nope jackson... mouse over my name - Chris Heath

92gb not much - Kiel Walker

i probably hit that - ralphsaunders

wow no shit Holger? - Jay Neff

Is it Gigabyte or Gigabit? - Jesse Stay

75$ for 50/50 here, unlimited - Jackson Pollock

£18/$25 18 down 2 up - Jamie

oh that is Euros haha - Jay Neff

Jay, nothing unusual in Germany... - Holger Eilhard

Chris; i think the situation is slightly different in san fran. - Jackson Pollock

Jackson: Damn! I want some of that. Who's your ISP? - Eric Florenzano

I'd kill for that Jackson :> - Jay Neff

Leo's pushing everybody over their caps backing up with Carbonite - Chad Albert

i'm paying USD$50 for unlimited 8mbit/s down 384kbit/s up - Chris Heath

Lyse, Norway. - Jackson Pollock

From Australia - generally have caps (10 to 50 GB) and then we either get shaped down to 64Kbps, or get charged 15c /MB - Richard Angus

yeah, company's like carbonite must hate the bandwidth cap - Matthew

americans are getting shafted... makes a change in the tech industry - Jamie

cloud computing is going to suffer with these caps - Xenophrenia

good job Neha! - Jay Neff

Robert, now there's a dj voice - Jackson Pollock

Sometimes guests have trouble interjecting. That's not a problem that Neha had :) - Eric Florenzano

the TWiT brought Neha's site down to its knees - Matthew

I get 16Mb down, 3Mb+ up - $75/mo - Jesse Stay

wil harris is going to bed - Jackson Pollock

I am paying AUD 150 / month for 100 GB - and only 6 MB down with 1 MB up - Richard Angus

David Mitchell is very funny - Ghworg

PEEK SHOW - Ben Gold

jesse is that for internet only? - Jamie

peep - Ben Gold

Jackson, well it's 1am in the uk :) - Holger Eilhard

david mitchell was the PC in the uk Im a Mac ads - Jamie

Isn't everbody in the UK the UK version of John Hodgman? - Ken Sheppardson

nice hair - John

holger; yes. 2am here - Jackson Pollock

jackson: i know *yawn* - Holger Eilhard

UK and US have awesome broadband compared to us poor suckers down under - we get totally shafted - Richard Angus

i'm nocturnal atm. but know the feeling very well - Jackson Pollock

Oh, so UK is on Daylight Time now? - Michael

What's Twitter? - Ken Sheppardson

so no discussion about the diggbar then... - Holger Eilhard

Go Friendfeed! - Mike Vierow

W00t FriendFeed. - Michael

UK is BST - pmclem

<3 FF - jackygreen

British Summer Time - Thomas James

they spoke about diggbar on net@nite - Jamie

beta.friendfeed.com/twit-conversations - don't forget the beta - Jesse Stay

was sayign that its difficult for them to talk about it for obvious reasons - Jamie

Nice. - Ken Sheppardson

My business card has never had Twitter on it. It does have FriendFeed. - Jesse Stay

same reason digg had to defend the digg tm - Jackson Pollock

--------END OF SHOW------ - Chris Heath

Diggbar! - John

this twit stuff. it all came from twig "this week in geek", which leo changed to twit - Jackson Pollock

nooo! - ralphsaunders

bardigg - Eric Florenzano

I have Twoll.com - trying to figure out what to do with it - Jesse Stay

diggfail - Matthew

brian brushwood was awesome - daniel durham

yeah jason was waiting for awhile now. lol - daniel durham

calacanis was waiting for leo to call haha - Chad DeHaan

jason was ustreaming from korea - Jamie

It's Tuesday in Korea. - Ken Sheppardson

Jason was on ustream a few seconds ago - Jesse Stay

why would he have gone to bed. it's morning - Jackson Pollock

ken, you mean monday? - Chris Heath

Leo: It's 9:05am in Korea - Ken Sheppardson

that's what i was thinking jackson - Chris Heath

Chris: No, I was joking :-) - Ken Sheppardson

Be like Mike - Ben Gold

trust in steve - Chris Heath

Google's cool. "Time in Korea" - Ken Sheppardson

Trust Steve's Grip - Eric Florenzano

Here's Jason's Ustream (not on right now): http://www.ustream.tv/channel... - Jesse Stay

It would be awesome if FriendFeed could figure out how to link an IRC server to FriendFeed conversations. Each conversation could get its own channel. - Jesse Stay

Here's a request; get the videos of the old episodes hosted. the best twit's by far were 21, 23, 24, and so on, and they were filmed but are no longer hosted. people would love them, but Leo is holding them back, get them out there! - Jackson Pollock

I like that the bitgravity feed lets you pause and resume without missing anything like the others do. - Jeff

the live twits? - Jamie

my favourite was the one after Apple announced the move to Intel. - Jamie

Jamie; if you read the twit wiki, I listed all the taped live shows, but many are missing hosting, and those who aren't are bad quality mostly. get them really hosted - Jackson Pollock

http://odtv.me/ - Ken Sheppardson

jamie, what ep # was that? - Chris Heath

om nom nom nom nom - ralphsaunders

On-Demand TWiT Video - http://odtv.me - Ken Sheppardson

ep 21 fex; roger mcguinn, dvorak, k-rose, pragor, heron, norton, lindsay. great times, very worth checking out. - Jackson Pollock

Is three easter eggs too much in 9 hours? - ralphsaunders

ken, i think jackson is talking about the early eps back in 05 - Chris Heath

ralph: Sorta depends on the size, I'd say - Ken Sheppardson

jackson, was that the one on couches? - Chris Heath

They weren't too big... like just normal - ralphsaunders

no, at the apple store - Jackson Pollock

the noonan bar and grill was 22,23 and 24. they were great - Jackson Pollock

But I did finish them a few hours ago lol - ralphsaunders

eat it leo! - ralphsaunders

actually I think it was the Tech Guy - Leo had John come on to talk about the move to Intel. John said it was a great move, Leo said Apple would die (something like that!) - Jamie

Jamie; yes that is true. However, early TWiT, the first episode with John on. (I'll check, but around 10) Leo played that interview - Jackson Pollock

wow neha is a fast typist - ralphsaunders

Yeah, you're not actually supposed to eat Peeps. - Ken Sheppardson

:-/ - Ken Sheppardson

the hell are you meant to do with them then - ralphsaunders

blow em up in a microwave? - ralphsaunders

I think they're intended for use as a packing material. - Ken Sheppardson

does anyone know how to tell if you get hit by the xss twitter worm? does it just spam out from your account? - Chris Heath

lol.... - ralphsaunders

yeah those early Twits had a real urgency about them Jackson. - Jamie

---- Mark end of show ---- - Ken Sheppardson

omg I want! - ralphsaunders

Jamie; check out TWiT Episode 8 for the Intel thing, the day before it happened, with the John interview from Tech Guy. - Jackson Pollock

I want one! - John

downloading Jackson - Jamie

thanks for lookin that up jackson - Chris Heath

TWiT swag is cool! - Joseph Ferris

And for those interested. Episodes 15-19 are the best shows they ever made. The I get no spam thing started there, Revision3 early beginning, Kevin talks about first Diggnation shows and so on. Very very very funny. - Jackson Pollock

CAR SHOW - Ben Gold

calm down - ralphsaunders

I remember listening to them at the time. literally recall when John first said he gets no spam and I think Leo just died laughing - Jamie

My dad told me he got no spam and then i showed him his spam box :P - ralphsaunders

Jamie; it was a Steve Gibson - John thing. Steve turned off HTML emails and John yelled at him, saying he got NO SPAM what so ever, with HTML. Steve and John work fantastic together - Jackson Pollock

yeah John said he had this setup from a friend right? - Jamie

final cut pro is heavy duty - ralphsaunders

Jamie; he sends his email and runs his websites on a site called ComputerTime.com if I remember. Mark something - Jackson Pollock

had to go be a parent for a while what did I miss? - G Dub of the Carolinas

That is a loud box Leo - Jackson Pollock

and im stuck with a 4 year old laptop that hardly runs photoshop >< - ralphsaunders

Final Cut Pro a great tool - Kiel Walker

I <<< Student <3 - ralphsaunders

There's lots of good open source stuff out there, no need to pirate for the majority of the time nowadays. - Eric Florenzano

are they gonna use BoinxTV for their show? - G Dub of the Carolinas

Photoshop is design industry standard... its kinda an exception - ralphsaunders

ralphsaunders: Yeah, photoshop and final cut are both exceptions. - Eric Florenzano

final cut is mac only right? - ralphsaunders

people might have my head but I believe Office is an exception too - Jamie

ralph; yes - Jackson Pollock

ralph: Yeah, but substitute Premiere Pro for Final Cut on the Windows side. - Eric Florenzano

Damn you apple! *shakes fist* >< - ralphsaunders

Premiere Pro.... hmm - ralphsaunders

ralph; get a mac - Jackson Pollock

Got some spare money? - ralphsaunders

:P - ralphsaunders

Queue it up - Ken Sheppardson

ah premiere pro is adobe software :D - ralphsaunders

14% student discount at the Apple store - Jamie

I think I have £20 in my box :P - ralphsaunders

ralph; sell your pc. if you want to run a program like final cut, a cheap pc won't work. apple is expensive yes, but thats what's needed 90% of the time - Jackson Pollock

lol @ the Computer Answer Man - Jamie

Ha! That computer video is classic. - Eric Florenzano

uhhhhh that needs to be Leo's avatar - Chad DeHaan

I would build my own PC... I'm not stupid :D. But the Apple side of things I think is a bit much for me. It will probably go on a student loan when i go to uni - ralphsaunders

LEO: AVATAR - Ken Sheppardson

hackintosh ralph hackintosh - G Dub of the Carolinas

It looks like 1-800-BASH-LEO - Jesse Stay

He looks older in that pic than he does now. But yeah, that needs to be his avatar. - Eric Florenzano

yes ken, yes! - Chris Heath

I agree Eric... hes "aged" well - Jamie

Nah I wanna go clean from Uni onwards G - ralphsaunders

(Chris DeHaan's idea :-) - Ken Sheppardson

Gunther, no no no no. you'll be disgusted by final cut forever if you try to do it on a non-mac. - Jackson Pollock

lol that sounded kinda gangster "g" :P - ralphsaunders

except for EFI, you can build a non mac identical to Apple Hardware - G Dub of the Carolinas

You look like a male model - Jackson Pollock

I have a Mac, AND a hackintosh - G Dub of the Carolinas

Did anyone see Randal Schwartz do Karaoke on Ustream last night? - Mike Vierow

uni has left me £18k in debt :-( - student loan repayments start this month - Jamie

http://i44.tinypic.com/2crucz4... - Ken Sheppardson

Jamie I thought you didn' - ralphsaunders

crap - ralphsaunders

I thought you didn't have to pay it off till u started earning above a certain amoutn - ralphsaunders

Gunther; until you want to update it; then you have to format. It's cool in theory, but it does not work. Every update breaks your OS. 10.5 is one download, 10.5.1 is one, and so on. you have to tailor the build for each version. doesn't work - Jackson Pollock

walt they're going to talk about the diggbar next week - Chris Heath

they give you a year... then if you earn above £15k you start paying it back. the more you earn the more you pay. I expect them to take out £90 from my salary this month - Jamie

this is true Jackson I hadn't thought of that - G Dub of the Carolinas

how about when you tricked Stallman to sing the GNU song - Jackson Pollock

If comcast decided to bring back tech tv with double the pay, would LEO quit TWIT and go back? - Ken Bernard

Gunther, I tried it, but it's not worth the time and effort. Buy used if you can't afford - Jackson Pollock

ken, probably not... - Chris Heath

Jamie wow.... £15k ... jeez :/ *hopes he gets spotted by design company halfway through uni* - ralphsaunders

I think its only about £30 a month if you earn 15k - Jamie

When does Laporte Courte start? - Ken Sheppardson

Ah thats not too bad then... i think out of uni (and this is a bit forward of me) i should be getting a bit more than that.. i hope :/ - ralphsaunders

15k is below poverty in London.. lol. most decent grad jobs will start at 22-24 - Jamie

also worth checking out; Dvorak from the late 80's with Gary Killdal talking about and taking apart an IBM workstation - Jackson Pollock

What a handsome man. You look like a male model Leo. Silver fox - Jackson Pollock

Patrick is like 25 there - Jackson Pollock

how old is this video? - Jamie

The Screensavers was such a great show - G Dub of the Carolinas

hmm apparently " Average annual salaries for general graphic artists vary from $37,000 to $64,000." - ralphsaunders

Patrick looks very uncomfortable in that video - G Dub of the Carolinas

well yeah $37k is about £25k - Jamie

Link is dead - Ken Sheppardson

When did Leo go gray and Patrick start balding - Jackson Pollock

^^ - ralphsaunders

is that pat's car? - Jackson Pollock

Although my prefered fields + a few others "User interface designers can make about $86,000 on average each year. Package designers can earn an average annual salary of $82,000." ... although idk if I want to do that full time yet - ralphsaunders

I miss Kate Botello - G Dub of the Carolinas

Kevin looks like he's 17 - Jackson Pollock

wow 5 years ago - G Dub of the Carolinas

what would patrick do without pockets - Jackson Pollock

wow - ralphsaunders

wow its sarah - ralphsaunders

I remember being so pissed that G4 took over ran TTV into the ground - G Dub of the Carolinas

What was the Screensavers ratings at the top? - Jackson Pollock

G: Yeah me too - Eric Florenzano

I used to watch The Screen Savers after school. - Eric Florenzano

Poor Martin. His shows always die - Jackson Pollock

Has anyone tried iCloud OS? It's an online operating system. - Mike Vierow

Jackson: I just don't find him funny. He seems like a smart guy--he should try to do a serious show maybe. - Eric Florenzano

Oh man, a TWiT meetup for Star Trek would be awesome. - Eric Florenzano

He's of the Jim Carrey school of broadcasting. But people forget that Carrey is a standup, just being loud and screaming doesn't work - Jackson Pollock

times like these I wish I lied in Northern California - G Dub of the Carolinas

lied=lived - G Dub of the Carolinas

Me too. - Andy Wood

star trek. wow is that a fad i don't get. - Jackson Pollock

Syler is a creepy Spock :D - G Dub of the Carolinas

I think the world has moved on since Star Trek. The premiere of the new one will be a bust. Just sayin' - Francine Hardaway

I liked the Next Generation but thats about it. never got the whole Star Wars thing either - Jamie

it will be huge in the us. here, prolly less successful than a sandler film - Jackson Pollock

hahah - ralphsaunders

get the old school's. patrick norton, robert heron, steve gibson, alex lindsay, yoshi - Jackson Pollock

Those tickets are going to go sooo fast. - Eric Florenzano

sry whats going on? - ralphsaunders

leo, tone it down dude - Jackson Pollock

I love you Steve Gillmor - Wo

wo, i don't think steve gillmor is in here - Chris Heath

ok guys. off. good chat. twitter.com/elgoog - Jackson Pollock

plantronics DSP400 @ajkeen - Steve Gillmor

well i was wrong, hello @stevegillmor - Chris Heath

hello chrisheath, Wo love u too - Steve Gillmor

they should ask wil weadon and lebron burton to come.. i am sure they would get ALOT of money - daniel durham

Haha, you mean Wil Wheaton and Levar Burton? - Eric Florenzano

969 comments. Can we make it to 1000? - Mike Vierow

970 - Phil Essing

971 - Mike Vierow

If we make an effort Mike. - Willem (@wim66) ☠

973 - ralphsaunders

yes we can - Jayesh

When is the next NewsGang? - Wo

Yes! Let's! - Mike Vierow

What are we at now? - Mike Vierow

So, anyone here like... stuff? - Phil Essing

she is cool in my book.. she knows her stuff - daniel durham

I'll chipe in! :) - Basenet InterMedia

Let's all post as much as we can! - Mike Vierow

we can do it! - ralphsaunders

Yes! - Mike Vierow

We! - Mike Vierow

who's counting? - Willem (@wim66) ☠

Can! - Mike Vierow

Pft. 1000's no big deal anymore. - Ken Sheppardson

me! 989! - Mike Vierow

eleven more! Now Ten! - Mike Vierow

Maybe we break something :) - Willem (@wim66) ☠

Oh, wait... maybe it is. There are a bunch in the 800 range, but only two >1000 - Ken Sheppardson

Wish I were going to be in California on May 8th for the screening. I arrive for the summer on May 22. Expect me. - Francine Hardaway

Here - Mike Vierow

we - Mike Vierow

go - Mike Vierow

six more - Mike Vierow

!00! will fall off the earth - Willem (@wim66) ☠

http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... - Ken Sheppardson

1000! - Mike Vierow

This would be 1000 - Phil Maxwell

Has anyone here tried iCloud OS? - Mike Vierow

Phil 1000 was the link. One before, one after, and "998 more comments" in between - Ken Sheppardson

BYE! - Mike Vierow

yeah, i'm a little slow - Phil Maxwell

:-) - Ken Sheppardson

trying icloud now mike..looks pretty cool - Ken Bernard

Wow, look at all the comments! - Robert Scoble

gets a little slow whenTWIT is not live. - Ken Bernard

Ne1 have a link to Icloud - jackygreen

i just googled icloud...http://www.icloud.com/ - Ken Bernard

Good twit & bitgravity, but why so many freezes? I am on comcast, but don't think they are the problem. Diggnation videos never freeze. - John Bunting

Them's fightin' words, I think ;) - Chip Duford

It would be just like me to comment on this thread, just for the sake of commenting. :) - Randal Schwartz

Randal: hah! - Robert Scoble

Better late than never :-) - Ken Sheppardson

Plus the show is repeating right now, so it's appropriate - Ken Sheppardson

This experiment prompted some feedback to Paul RE how they could make embedding easier. - Ken Sheppardson

we're about to go mac mini system at home - would love to hear your tips - and ps love the dog's name - given that I'm an Aussie by choice - love ya leo - Linda Johannesson

testing if this thread still alive. - Cliff Gerrish

Seems to be - Ken Sheppardson

Kshep, Did Paul ever respond to your feedback about embedding? - Cliff Gerrish

Cliff: Not explicitly, and I haven't really noticed changes in the embed, but I haven't looked at it in a few days. - Ken Sheppardson

not #FEEDwithHITS - Yusuf Temur