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Leo Laporte to Leo's feed, TWiT Conversations
Live now This Week in Tech with Don tapscott, Gina Trapani, Jeff Jarvis, and Jake Jarvis. http://live.twit.tv. Discuss here....
May 31
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David Gallo, Jim Lavin, Lisa zahara Hopkins and 42 other people liked this
Wow twit is good today, its all about the future
- AhronZombi
What impact will be made to blog posters if they use a monthly or one-time donate income system
- Michael Mooney
I love when Leo gets guests that are so intellectual.
- Jim Lavin
I'm all on the side of new media, but my local paper in Arkansas, which was a terrible paper even before the internet, they began life on the internet by charging (only 4.95 a month) and now they are selling more papers than they were 10 years ago. All of these papers should have done the same thing, and charged from the beginning, but now they can't go back. I'm just saying my paper did the opposite of what Web 2.0 preaches and they are successful because of it. Just a contrarian example
- Stephen Pickering
A 10th grade student of mine asked me, "How come they call it news if it is printed yesterday?"
- Erik Weese
Leo, looks like Jake just turned into Dr. Manhattan
- Matthew
I'll be so glad when newspapers finish completely going digital. I've always HATED the giant newspaper form factor.
- Thunderwing
from twhirl
I love that type of evening entertainment, so much better than German TV.
- David Schmidt
Is it possible have a local blog say The Petaloma Blog with ad's and donate incomes then take the best storys and publish a low cost paper each week localy with ad's for income
- Michael Mooney
My daughter never watches TV any more she does everything via the Internet. I can remember that watching TV or listening to the radio to get the news.
- Jim Lavin
This will be like watching a great focus group ..with Don Tapscott able to drill down into what Jake and his peers think and do
- Joe Magennis
There is right-wing and then there is 'RIGHT-WING'... same on the left...
- Johnny Worthington
And those all caps folks are often the most closed minded of all. :/
- CAJ, somewhere else
A friendfeed style service could become the way you get crowed sourced live news
- Michael Mooney
But also too, sometimes 'the other side' doesn't need coverage. Equality doesn't always equal time when one side is just plain wrong
- Johnny Worthington
twitter does that Michael
- Matthew
As a High School teacher, I worry that these students will become consumers rather than producers. I feel that is apart of my role as a teacher.
- Erik Weese
Privacy is more important than ever. We should be paying more attention since we have the tools to be more selective about how private we are.
- CAJ, somewhere else
there seems to be more right than left on TV, imo.
- Matthew
I don't watch that much tv though
- Matthew
Swings and roundabouts...
- Johnny Worthington
+++++Erik ... I'm concerned about the same w.r.t. my nieces
- Richard ¿digame? Walker
Chinese Wispers will ring true for politics
- Michael Mooney
They have a machine went BING!!!
- Johnny Worthington
Who is that young kid again?
- Adam Nieto
Now it's BING! lol
- CAJ, somewhere else
Live is the new .net, Microsoft marketing get a name in their heads and slap it on every product that comes out whether it is appropriate or not (mostly not).
- Ghworg
Wow, Jeff...just wow.
- Mike Flynn
Honestly, Microsoft needs to get Bing (the protocol) into its Exchange and Outlook products so that they can have a say in where the platform goes. They can either take charge or get left behind.
- Derek Erdmann
What could happen if Linux os's fully intergrate google wave?
- Michael Mooney
Rolling connection
- Johnny Worthington
once again google's innovating thinking forward and microsoft's playing catch-up still
- Chris Heath
Create WINS, Control disappears.
- Johnny Worthington
How does google make money off of this then?
- Ghworg
Just how strong Wave takes hold will all depend on how easy it is to develop for it. Too hard and it will only be mediocre.
- Jim Lavin
Google Android Devices + Wave services = more google ad's sold
- Michael Mooney
Ghworg - Corporate Versions... That plus + Google Voice + Docs + Android
- Johnny Worthington
Outlook on Steriods
- Johnny Worthington
GWT's been around for a long time.
- Gavin
Paid versions
- Johnny Worthington
They can embedded a payment/finical module and you wouldn't want that open source
- Johnny Worthington
Gundotra
- Gavin
I don't like how it shows what you write every single keystroke.
- Gavin
you can choose to only display when you're done typing Gavin
- Matthew
Class room projects using wave
- Michael Mooney
Watching on my mini-9 hackintosh with Plex on HD TV
- Jim Adams
@Matthew ok, great!
- Gavin
Realtime only works when you trust your network of people
- Johnny Worthington
Google needs to hire some UI designers though. Like a lot of Google's products work well, but don't have the greatest user interface. They should hire someone from Apple!!
- Devon Govett
What?? I think it looks great.
- Gavin
perhaps a gadget can customize the UI
- Matthew
Maybe Wave will be backwards compatible. Some people will have Wave. Some will still be using email.
- Erik Weese
I got the spymaster post from Bwana as well
- Matthew
What happened to twitter's interface will happen to Wave's interface
- Michael Mooney
Isn't that a lack of filtering though?
- Johnny Worthington
perhaps a Wave Deck in the future?
- Matthew
I heard my name from the darkness....
- Bwana ☠
More spyness!!
- Bwana ☠
Don't worry Leo, I toned down my tweet settings quite a bit
- Bwana ☠
Leo called you out Bwana for your spymaster spam
- Matthew
What on earth is spymaster
- Michael Mooney
I know Matthew
- Bwana ☠
It's a sensitive thing..I barely sent 2 tweets per hour
- Bwana ☠
So essentially Wave is Google's iteration of Sharepoint... Interesting.
- Marc Landry
but open and better
- Chris Heath
Marc more like groove than sharepoint I think
- BryanSchuetz
The "lion's share" is open
- Bwana ☠
Marc, you should watch the video at http://wave.google.com
- Matthew
Wave won't be completely open
- Bwana ☠
Audible recommendation Angels & Demons Dan Brown
- Jim Adams
Bwana, what parts won't be open that you know of, besides that which the user/s make private?
- Matthew
I have to say, what Leo imagines Wave could be, would be fantastic if we could build it.
- Jim Lavin
I don't know anything, I'm assuming based on the "lion's share of code will be open" statement by Google
- Bwana ☠
oh, I see
- Matthew
The great position that Wave has is that the people that are going to use it are smart and willing to mold their workflow around it. Implementing sharepoint is a battle cause in most Businesses, your biggest pain point is resistance to change.
- Marc Landry
Leo needs to throw the Russian accent in there somewhere though...
- Johnny Worthington
a lot of ff discussion has been had about wave re: sharepoing http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Chris Heath
Wave seems to be worth it just because of the Rosy gadget, live translation. it's like the first Star Trek Communicator
- Matthew
Audible should get Dvorak to read his best blog post's(rant's) *thanks
- Michael Mooney
Michael Mooney: Dvorak
- Chris Heath
Bwana, you doing anything for E3?
- Matthew
I'd buy a Cranky reading by Dvorack anytime.
- Jim Lavin
Sorry about the late comment on the subject. I just remembered I paused the conversation earlier for dinner..
- Marc Landry
Don's talking about something similar to Sir Ken Robinson's first Ted talk http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Chris Heath
If you went to education classes we study inquiry and discovery learning. I have push this type of learning in my classrooms
- Erik Weese
When I was in school it was all about memorization, but they never taught a class on how to memorize efficiently.
- Matthew
To keep learning
- Johnny Worthington
It was regurgitation. Remember long enough to be tested.
- CAJ, somewhere else
lol matthew
- Chris Heath
Until we can break the cycle of having to check every box to get a job, children will be doomed to learn the test in order to get a head in life.
- Jim Lavin
Queens College. Yea CUNY!
- Erik Weese
iTunes U?
- Johnny Worthington
Google U
- Matthew
Ask the audience, university edition
- Ghworg
TWiT U
- Matthew
Who Wants To Be A College Graduate?
- Johnny Worthington
I think that we are on the cusp of the destruction of traditional education. You would seek out the knowledge you need for day to day life.
- Jim Lavin
when the digital education environment comes of age the computers can silently find the test scores from the students work and class room interactions leaving teachers to teach
- Michael Mooney
that sounds interesting Michael
- Chris Heath
Read something a week that you don't know anything about...
- Johnny Worthington
That comment about Lectures sounded very Davoracian
- eric graeser
love Google's 20 percent rule.
- kilbuda
Jim Lavin is right, teaching creativity doesn't get you a job. It helps you *do* a job but doesn't get you the job.
- Ghworg
I agree once we can write the apps that can determine a child's intellectl Then education will truly change.
- Jim Lavin
say if you had leo give the class to all the schools via a live feed then have a teacher in each class give 1-on-1 to kids that need extra help then the software environment the kid's interact with (+ teacher input about each kid.) wil process the input fully customizing the lessons for each kid
- Michael Mooney
One of the reasons for the requirements for liberal arts degree is because high school has failed to teach students to read and write and think critically. Partly because of the standardized tests.
- Erik Weese
Choosing by the results of operations results in patients with difficult to operate on conditions being discriminated against.
- Ghworg
Everthing I ever needed to know came from a reference guide or the manual..
- Jim Lavin
wow googe gets it's own show? Guess I should be thankful it's not a twitter show
- BryanSchuetz
Yes, thank God not another Twitter snow.
- Jim Lavin
what's jake jarvis's facebook app? answered my own question: http://www.gigature.com/ found via: http://jakejarvis.com
- Chris Heath
Fantastic show! Great discussion!
- Jim Lavin
Soo.. no actual tech news today?
- Marc Landry
Great show leo, his gests & all friendfeed members
- Michael Mooney
But it toasts in realtime...
- Johnny Worthington
Quoting don Tapscott - Hey, here's some content - it's a meatloaf.
- Steve Burgess
I posted a tweet that said I was going to give a presentation about web 2.0, I got a replay from a teenager saying you teach web 2.0? I replied "yes for 30+ year old people. His replay "Good luck".
- John Durham
I'm exactly what they are talking about. I am going to college full time, but on the other hand I am trying to keep up with my game company growing, and having to go through traditional education is severely hindering me.
- Kevin
Kevin try to work the games around college start small like xbox live community games, smart phone games and/or google wave games - if it can't work on a phone or Nintendo ds save the idea for later when you are out of college
- Michael Mooney
"Web In Progress" may work as a Show title
- Michael Mooney
Great TWiT, but a much better aftershow.
- Mister IQ
from twhirl
Excellent Show!
- Dave Marsh
Maybe college is a wast but alote places wont hire you with out that paper =\
- Mike
Those shortsighted companies may be doomed to fail.
- Chris Poulson
TWiT 200 lineup needs to be - Leo, Calacanis, Harris, Patrick & Dvorak
- Michael Mooney
Would Love to see a Green Tech Show on TWIT
- John Boufford
A Hotels/Resorts, Retail Vercals & Airlines from a geek view point show
- Michael Mooney
How about: "What Is Google Doing?" for a show title?
- Hawklu
Forecast: Cloud Computing Report
- Andrew Johnson
LEO: I really enjoyed this episode and the sort of "big picture" look at technology and culture. It made me think of an idea for a TWiT show. What if you created some sort of Digg-esque page on twit.tv. There, people could submit specific big picture topic ideas and the twit army would vote on the topic they were most interested in. Then every month, or whatever frequency you selected, you would discuss the topic/issue that was most voted on and get guests that related to that topic. In addition, you could create a landing page for that episode that could generate dialogue both before the episode and after the episode - a living and breathing page so to speak...just an idea :)
- Mike Bracco
So 18 min into this netcast, leo says that he avoid hard right wing sources because he's left leaning (being polite). So - taking Leo's actions as example, I should avoid leo's twit content so I don't have to listen to the extreme left wing content on TWIT 197? Thought was helpful to listen to all points, even the ones you think are "way out there". Drink the cool-aid! LOL
- Tony
What Ioved was someone finally brought up how much higher learning is pushed on a person.
- Samuel Lewis
from twhirl
Best Twit for a long time
- Mel Buckpitt
Very good Twit. I'm listening now. :)
- Daynah
Funny, I just interviewed Don Tapscott to. Great guy.
- Robert Scoble
I'm a relatively moderate person, I was stunned how left leaning this episode was, especially in the utterly unrealistic education discussion. To suggest that we scrap our higher ed system when the rest of the world clamors to come to the states for it is just silly. Education is changing because of tech, and being an educational technologist by trade I see it every day. I would suggest that everyone take another look inside a modern classroom, as it's quite a bit different now than just 5 or 10 years ago.
- Ryan Massie
TWIT, Don Tapscott and a 17 year old. http://www.targetx.com/ithink...
- Brian Niles
Who the hell is Don Tapscott and why was he on Twit? I don't normally complain about something I get for free, but this guy made this show difficult to listen to...I'm not sure what, exactly, it was, but he seemed really out of place. Gina, on the other hand, was great.
- George Gray
George: ever hear of Google? Don has written 13 books, including one called "Wikinomics" that is a best seller. He's very smart and, while he's a little hard to follow in places, does research on how people use the Internet, especially the younger generation (he also wrote a book called "Growing up Digital" and he has lots of facts to back up his claims, unlike a lot of other people I talk with.
- Robert Scoble
George: Totally disagree, his insightful comments about the changes needed in education and the old 'push' and new collaborate models hit the bulls-eye
- Mel Buckpitt
However, he is not up on current happenings. Before the show Leo said they would be talking about Googles big announcement, and he said "what big announcement was that?" He had no idea about Wave. Shouldn't be on THIS WEEK in tech. Emphasis on THIS WEEK.
- David Lloyd
Mark: that's a good point. Not everyone watches Techmeme and friendfeed like many of us do. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert: thanks...I had actually heard of Growing up Digital and Wikinomics, just did not put them together with him. I think Leo even talked about them at them at the start of Twit. I'm sure he's a smart guy, he, to me, just seemed out of place on Twit. I will have to listen again, maybe I was the one who was out of place.
- George Gray
We are an odd bunch of people really, we give a shit about all this stuff years before it enters the fringes, and years more before it goes mainstream :p
- David Lloyd
This was a great episode. I especially liked the teens perspective.
- Dave
I just got a chance to listen to the episode, check out here how one teacher is using Twitter in a college classroom - http://digg.com/d1sizk
- Patrick Black