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@ursulas LOL - I don't know about "rocking," but I sure have a great time constantly redefining myself.
That's important! Redefining means always growing!
- ursi
Yes, but into what? =)
- Linda Goin
@Starbucks #via #starbucks Drinking a cup of via.. it could be worse and the time savings could become addictive. At home I drink espresso.
I need to try that.
- ursi
Gillmor Gang recording live 1PM Pacific http://www.building43.com/realtim...
Daniel Chow, Michael Pinto, Troy Benohanian and 7 other people liked this
We are close to being live now. Just a couple more minutes.
- Robert Scoble
http://twitter.com/dens Dennis Crowley, co-founder of Foursquare is our special guest.
- Robert Scoble
I'm still not clear on what's good about this...
- Cliff Gerrish
please ask Dennis when Foursquare will roll out in europe
- HansVanRock
Cliff: there are three things that I get out of Foursquare: 1. I see what my friends are doing. That lets me meet them in real life and keep track of what they are doing. 2. It's a game, so I can play it to compete with my friends. 3. I can get tips from my friends for the location that I currently am at.
- Robert Scoble
Hans: it just launched in London last week.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, the tips seem good. Do you need to check in to get them?
- Cliff Gerrish
Checking-in is like closing the "sales" loop for venues. FourSquare is a disruptor in mobile marketing and users are happy and engaged....
- Antonella Stellacci
Cliff: yes. Because checking in is how you tell the system where you are.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: London i don´t consider as europe, it´s an island lost at sea ;-)
- HansVanRock
re new places, check their blog http://foursquare.tumblr.com/post... for a list of new cities
- Antonella Stellacci
Can you privately check in, or is it alway a public gesture.
- Cliff Gerrish
Cliff: yes. You can keep your location secret.
- Robert Scoble
HansVanRock: They also have Amsterdam.
- 321
321: who will be brave enough to check in at a coffee shop? :-)
- Robert Scoble
:-)/
- HansVanRock
Geolocation, augmented reality, etc. Foursquare seems like a simple entre to this world.
- Cliff Gerrish
Cliff: it looks simple, just like Twitter looks simple. But that's deceiving.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I meant 'simple' in the most complimentary way. Simple works.
- Cliff Gerrish
Regarding real people in augmented reality, check this out: http://blog.brightkite.com/2009...
- Martin May
Mobile advertising is a multi-billion dollars business. ....even Twitter with geo-location API and Facebook mobile will want a share of it..
- Antonella Stellacci
Loop and latency are also key elements.
- Cliff Gerrish
Hey, Gillmor, nice camera angle of your studio!
- Robert Scoble
Are these features or companies?
- Cliff Gerrish
widgets will soon start talking to each other and exchanging data. that's when user constructed solutions start getting interesting.
- scott anderson
Are there enough economics in a distributed widget mesh?
- Cliff Gerrish
widgets will be front end for services. that's where the economics come from.
- scott anderson
If you wrap up 5 widgets in a package - high risk, great leverage, low economics
- Cliff Gerrish
If you are dependent on more systems, doesn't that increase your risk? It seems like it's a downside unless you have failover to other services
- Martin May
Do we really want our phones making decisions for us? No matter how much context they have...
- Cliff Gerrish
Thanks for adding San Antonio, @dens!
- Robert J Taylor
Cliff - they are making suggestions, not decisions.
- Rob La Gesse
A better frame might be, here are the place gestures your social graph has generated. Does that suggest anything to you...
- Cliff Gerrish
that's super smart :)
- Antonella Stellacci
Have any houses been broken into based on negative location information?
- Cliff Gerrish
Cliff: I heard of one, because of a Facebook post (or it was just a bad coincidence). But I've also heard of thieves getting caught because of Google Latitude.
- Robert Scoble
As long as thieves are also on foursquare and check in as they are robbing your place -- I guess that's ok...
- Cliff Gerrish
No 4square in Reno yet. So there must be a population threshold for cities covered at this point?
- ursi
Cliff: if someone tries breaking into my house while I'm not here they might be a little shocked. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Homeless people will "check in" the easy mark homes for their roaming buddies...
- Robert J Taylor
Aren't explicit place gestures fictional? That's their important social information content...
- Cliff Gerrish
I'd love to be able to check in on the Gillmor Gang.
- Robert Scoble
Sounds a lot like MS Mesh...
- Cliff Gerrish
Right...but the tough part is "verifying" that a person is actually at a certain place. You can make it difficult to spoof, though.
- Martin May
We're working on some interesting stuff with QR codes to do that.
- Martin May
Identity becomes a real key here.
- Cliff Gerrish
Good thoughts...totally agree with @dens
- Martin May
Steve - I like the new "studio cam" view
- Rob La Gesse
Do we run into the Facebook Beacon problem here?
- Cliff Gerrish
Steve - I like the studio cam view, too: http://img.skitch.com/2009101... (color me green for jealousy!)
- Robert J Taylor
yes, i also liked the cam angle: http://twitpic.com/lnkdg ..... great show Steve & guests!
- HansVanRock
House Dems represent richest regions | rgj.com - http://www.rgj.com/article...
"Democratic members of the House of Representatives now represent most of the nation’s wealthiest people, a sharp turnaround from the long-standing dominance that Republicans have held over affluent districts."
- ursi
from Bookmarklet
GOP TechTard Epic Fail! Unfortunately, we will not be taking this moment to Laugh Out Loud at M.C. Steele’s gangsta’ walk through the grassrootiness of the “new GOP,” as it seems to have been disappeared, all of it, the entire site, GONE! - http://freerangetalk.com/...
ursi, Cagdas Seichter, Mark Jepsen and 7 other people liked this
Someone should really tell the ReThuglicans to step away from the computer. The GOP launched their new website today, to howls of laughter at their lame attempts at hip-hop cool. Sadly, the lameness of the style was the least of their problems. The hastily-posted site included Site Administration access and their own g-mail password, FAIL!
- Head Ov Metal
from Bookmarklet
"ReThuglicans" LOL
- ha3rvey (free hugs!)
Remember when Michael Steele dismissed being cutting edge, because he wanted to go beyond that? What the hell is beyond cutting edge?
- Andrew C
LOL @Andrew
- Anika
What up?
- Trish R
Marc Ambinder reporting on the conference call: "The first question on the conference call was from an Hispanic Republican who asked why the GOP site didn't have a Spanish-language page and noted that the White House had one." http://politics.theatlantic.com/2009... - Yeah, that would go over well with the Tancredo wing of the party.
- Andrew C
Geez, Who decided on the Red China theme?
- Rob H.
LOL Rob we were discussing that this morning. And I mentioned that CCCP-esque font on that video didn't help either.
- Anika
I wonder how many of the Republican Heroes would be proud of their party as it is today... "What up" indeed.
- Internet's Tad
I watched their video - it was pretty well made. I like their new message too. The problem is that it doesn't represent the way the GOP really is today. When I think of the GOP I think of "You lie!" and Sarah Palin and Tommy Tancredo and distrust of science, attempts to infuse religion into education, disrespect for women's rights, homophobia, immoral unilateral war, huge spending, the Patriot Act and on and on.
- Internet's Tad
I'm all for a "New Repulican party," but until they clean house of the crazies, I think they're screwed.
- Internet's Tad
And the video ends with " A word from the Chairman." Hilarious. Rush would have a week's worth of material and Glenn Beck would try to start a revolution had the Dems made a site that looks like this.
- Rob H.
What causes such blatant stupidity?
- ursi
Carly Fiorina? What were you thinking? Is it possible to lose an election with your 1st website? http://carlyforcalifornia.com/join_fl...
ursi liked this
Carlyfornia? LOL! Isn't that how Ahnold pronounces California?
- ursi
I favorited a YouTube video -- Megawatt by Pilobolus http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Wow, very cool!
- ursi
Obama heckled by GOP during speech: 'You lie!' | Associated Press - http://news.yahoo.com/s...
Iván Abrego, Alan Morris, Bette Cooper and 34 other people liked this
“In an extraordinary breach of congressional decorum, a Republican lawmaker shouted ‘You lie!’ at President Barack Obama during his speech to Congress Wednesday ... right away, Wilson seemed to sense that he had fouled up...” [You think?]
- Anthony Citrano
from Bookmarklet
Woulda been more awesome if he had tried to run up to the podium and tried to tackle the president.
- Internet's Tad
“[The Congressman] tried to call Obama to apologize ... but ended up speaking to White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel.” [I'll bet he did.]
- Anthony Citrano
I can't quit giggling about it. At least he resigned and basically said he knows he was in the wrong, but that was mind-numbingly stupid - ESPECIALLY considering what he called the president out on. DUMB ASS AWARD OF THE YEAR
- Internet's Tad
the definition of an asshat
- ursi
Wilson committed political suicide. He shouldn't expect any White House invites or support
- Shane
He's virtually guaranteed himself to be signed on as a senior analyst for Fox News when his term is done.
- Pete Delucchi
from iPhone
@Tad: he resigned? I think I missed that little detail... ?????
- Anthony Citrano
So far as I know, no, he did not.
- Christopher A Carr
and the downward spiral continues...
- MikeAmundsen
I think by "resigned", Tad means he basically backed off and changed his tune.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Ah. Suppose I would have used something like "retreated."
- Christopher A Carr
when are we going to require politicians to pass a basic intelligence test before running for office?
- William Harryman
Is this guy new to Congress? He sure as hell doesn't look like a Junior Congressman, so there's no excuse for his breach of conduct and stupidity!
- Bonnie Foster
I think people have worked themselves to such a fever pitch that they just don't even know what they're saying or doing these days. It's amazing the things I'm hearing coming of out what I always believed to be perfectly sensible people. Everyone's talking, nobody's listening, and there's nothing good can come of it.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
+100 tinypants
- William Harryman
Um, Orange County, Calif had an actual resignation, not South Carolina's 2nd congressional district.
- Micah Wittman
Micah: I thought that might be the confusion.
- Christopher A Carr
From Boing Boing Opponent of Republican who shouted "You lie!" at Obama is given $25,000 $69,000 by outraged votershttp://www.boingboing.net/2009... - Act Blue fundraiser up over $70K
- WarLord
Not the best career move. I'm happy to see both sides of the aisle condemning this type of behavior.
- Jim Goldstein
what is it about that state?
- MikeAmundsen
Ask Tina. ;)
- Cristo
I'm sure Stephen Colbert will have something to say about SC... again!
- Jim Goldstein
I just feel sorry for the guys sitting next to him...
- kristophersaim
bad joke coming: maybe what he said was July! and not "you lie".
- David Rodriguez
McCain said Wilson should be ashamed.... I think Wilson's stupidity probably helped Obama's cause more than hurt it... definition of backfire.
- Gus
It seems like the GOP is determined to shoot itself in the foot at every opportunity. This on top of all the lame "response" speakers like Bobby Jindal. They're a joke of a party right now.
- Kevin Pedraja
Wow, talk about marginalizing yourself and your party. I mean seriously.
- Chieze Okoye
According to The Fix, donations to Rob Miller's campaign are now over $200k. Ah, yes, the word I'm looking for here WRT Joe Wilson's outburst is "schadendouche".
- vicster
I rather enjoyed Barney Frank's response to Wilson's outburst, from 00:30-01:26 -- lol! http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather...?
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
@David R: mighta been bad, but it made me LOL. And @vicster - I like your new word.
- Anthony Citrano
ProsePetals, nice. I'm liking Rep. Frank more and more. A thoughtful and hilarious at times interview.
- Chieze Okoye
Chieze: A lot of the time, I find him abrasive - but over time, he's grown on me. :)
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
BTW, the best single line of the speech: "I will not waste time with those who have made the calculation that it's better politics to kill this plan than to improve it." He FINALLY said it for everyone to hear.
- Chieze Okoye
This kind of thing happens all the time in the Canadian House of Commons. No decorum here.
- Kenton
He made over $70k off that? Jeeze. Edit: Woops, misread. His opponent got the donations. :D
- Tanath
Kenton, re. decorum, see my comment here: http://friendfeed.com/karoli...
- Micah Wittman
@Tanath: no one made $70k off that. But this idiot's opponent's campaign raked in some dough. I'm going to make a token contribution I think, once I make sure I ACTUALLY SUPPORT the guy. ;)
- Anthony Citrano
Also, Barney Frank is as imperfect as we all are, but as a Mass native I'll tell you he is one smart, quick-thinking MF.
- Anthony Citrano
it's almost up at $300k now. http://www.actblue.com/entity...
- Chieze Okoye
@Anthony, yeah, just saw that. Thanks.
- Tanath
schadendouche - lol
- anna sauce
Last time I checked, the healthcare debate was about his constituents lives. A sad day when illegal aliens are the most pressing, emotional topic to loose control over and shout about.
- E-Advocate Network
He didn't throw a shoe?
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Anthony: I will say, Honorable Frank lives up to his title...and actually *earns* his respect. There are those of us 'round who still know what that means. That includes matters of disagreement as well.
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Ah the hypocrisy. When democrats boo'd Bush they were praised. For the last month they have called protesters un-American, right-wing terrorists, angry mob, etc., and this is what they get upset about. LOL.
- Spencer
Spencer: WTF are you talking about?! For the past eight years, any- and everyone on the left has been called unAmerican! And we're *still* being called such. You find our response at vindication a surprise?!
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
@Spence: boo=="You lie!" ROFL!
- MikeAmundsen
Oh wait, let me guess...Spencer either views Palin as honest...or at the very least as a MILF. /sarcasm
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Wow! I wonder what else Wilson could do to help raising money for Miller like that?
- Mahmood Padura
Spencer, really, that's just embarrassing. There is absolutely no need to defend Republicans against every single real and perceived criticism. Many criticisms are valid and not all have a reasonable counterpoint, including the one discussed in this thread, which is unprecedented.
- Ayşe E.
Hecklers never win... Nuff said!
- Ron Thompson
They lied for 8 years or more: Guess they made it a tradition in that level of responsibility???
- ThatDBD
This guy needs a Youtube, Wiki, 4chan, and mocked to no end on the Internet and be bucketed with the Cheney pile-o-doodoo DIE A TRILLION DEATHS stack. He does not deserve major coverage. #MakesMeSick
- Mona Nomura
Ron, I also don't like useless appearance of hecklers.
- Mahmood Padura
What Ayşe said.
- Anthony Citrano
OK, if that is so, where were you guys at when the Dems Boo'd and heckled Bush in 2004 and 2005 State of the Union speeches? especially in 2005 when they heckled him for mentioning that SSI is going broke and needs reform! which was 100% accurate! He wasn't calling his opponents LIARS in his speech either!
- Brian
Then the fact that it is OK for the President to call his opponents in the audience LIARS and not expect any response is the height of ARROGANCE! Especially when he is the LIAR, Dems in the House voted down requiring proof of citizenship for getting insurance, so illegals WILL be able to get coverage if he signs the current version of the bill into law and that was confirmed by the DEM run and independent Congressional Research Service.
- Brian
@Brian: you've missed the point. Wilson's behavior was boorish and uncalled for. that's the point. Wilson was not the only person in the room of the opinion that Obama was less than truthful. his actions were foolish and uncalled for. that's the point. this is _not_ about who lied, it's about who acted out inappropriately.
- MikeAmundsen
@Brian: sorry, but I find it really depressing the lack of perspective people like you bring to these conversations. The “other people did this too" logic is infantile, not to mention disingenuous and irrelevant (as Mike just said above me.) Even if it *were* relevant, what Wilson did is unprecedented.
- Anthony Citrano
wow... rob miller is now over $800,000 ... http://www.actblue.com/entity... ... anyone taking bets on the 2010 race yet?
- Chris Heath
@Brian: Obama wasn't lying: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o...
- Tanath
@Anthony - I guess you can't figure out that my point is the left and most of their allies in the media didn't express much concern with, what was at that time, an unprecedented event where Dems heckled and boo'd Bush during his State of Union address and doing so when he mentioned SSI's troubles.
- Brian
from BuddyFeed
@Anthony - You are flat out wrong when you say Wilson's outburst was unprecedented! Dems beat him to the punch in 04 & 05 SOTUS speeches! I would argue that prolonged booing while President is speaking is at the very least as disrespectful & certainly more disruptive & distracting than a short "you lie" statement.
- Brian
from BuddyFeed
Brian, why don't you go ahead and make a youtube video that compares the events using the actual video footage and then post it back here. When was the last time you saw that SotU speech? 4 or 5 years ago? Your memory might not be serving you very well. To me there's a big difference between yelling a cheer or a boo than calling someone a liar. But that's just me... and i just...
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- Chris Heath
Plus, Obama hasn't really done anything horrible (yet) and GWB was already in office for 4+ years with lots of stuff to dislike/hate about him over that time... not making excuses, just trying to make sense of it.
- Chris Heath
@Chris - Was President Bush calling his opponents LIARS in his speech? No, Bush has more class than that! Was Bush refering to citizen protests as spectacles? Was Bush attacking his opposition party in any of his speeches? the point here is that Obama gave a partisan and very political speech where instead of strictly pushing his agenda he decided to attack his critics & refer to them as LIARS, game players, etc... Funny that you wouldn't expect some kind of reaction from those of whom Obama was targeting!
- Brian
from BuddyFeed
Let's be clear on the issue of the bill that Wilson says illegals can be on the public option. He is 100% correct in that assertion and Obama is technically incorrect when he said that his plan (he doesn't have a plan so we have to assume he supports the house bill at the time of his speech) does not cover illegals, it does, they can get on the public option and would have to pay to be...
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- Brian
Brian, you (and Wilson) are just wrong... the only way that illegals can get healthcare under the proposed law (as drafted) is by purchasing their healthcare - they can't get it for free like citizens who meet the requirements can. [source: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o... ]
- Chris Heath
@Chris Heath - I read your Politifact article and it too acknowledges that Illegals can get health care from the public option, I guess you do not understand english, we do not say they get 100% free health care, we say they can get on the public option! Now, if you are aware of our Gov history and SSI & Medicare, Gov said that 15% of our income would cover the costs of those 2...
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- Brian
@Chris - Answer this question: the bill does not require proof of citizenship and the Dems voted down an amendment that would add that to the bill, how do you prevent someone from getting a tax credit when you don't check for eligibility?
- Brian
how would illegals get a tax credit if they're not paying taxes... you're not making much sense, and wasting my time
- Chris Heath
@Chris - Then why did they write that provision?
- Brian
@Chris - These are refundable tax credits where the Gov cuts you a check.
- Brian
Group rallies against Pastor who prays for President Barack Obama to die: http://www.app.com/article... #hate #WWJD #GOP #p2 #christianity
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A sermon entitled "Why I Hate Barack Obama"? Seriously?
- ha3rvey (free hugs!)
Yep, seriously! I agree with the person in the story who said this church must be a cult!
- ursi
Let 'em hate. Let 'em go, If all these 'haters' hate it so much. Just leave. Take them off the tax rolls (Including the tax free rolls I'm sure the church is on) and not allow them to use any government services, period. Policing that is bound to be cheaper than trying to play referee in among the brawls we now have.
- Warner Crocker
Amen, Brother Warner!
- MiniMage, sheeple of FF
Make that a double AMEN!
- ursi
God Hates Reno » La Bussola has retreated, regrouping, reforming… - http://www.godhatesreno.com/...
Helen Sventitsky liked this
Crap likes this makes me mad at this town. Serioiusly....
- Helen Sventitsky
I know. I am pissed. I wish we all could have known sooner so we could have taken some sort of visible action. I can't believe the Reno RDA didn't try to get involved.
- ursi
We are pleased to announce that the Gillmor Gang is back - and delivered through the Real Time Network on building43.com. Gillmor Gang (with video!) will air live on Thursdays, at 1PM Pacific time. Rackspace is happy to sponsor Gillmor Gang, and the Real Time Network. This cooperative effort will continue building43's efforts to educate, inform...
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Congratulations, Rob - I know you've been working to make this happen on your end. So, when is that break coming you were talking about taking? :)
- Robert J Taylor
Gutsy move to sponsor a show which has a meltdown every 1.2 episodes :)
- Mark
Sounds like a great fit.
- Mike Doeff
from iPhone
sweet and/or awesome
- Chris Heath
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that there will be an archive! I can't watch video on my work pc! Can't wait for the Gilmor Gang to happen again!
- ursi
WOW, just made my day, Gillmor is my dowsing rods for the attention economy the rest of the world is just figuring out we are living in
- David Stratton
How are you guys managing the video feeds from multiple locations for this show? Would love for you to share your secret :-)
- Chris Nadeau
Skypesaurus II.
- Vezquex: God of FF
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not really skypesaurus, but a child or red-headed step-son ... they're using mac minis right? and what for kvm?
- Chris Heath
Twitter matters - I wouldn't know the Fiat race successes without it. Could apply to many other things as well. #gillmorgang
- Rick Bucich
WTF? LOL! @blondetwit@aureliom: Xtian anti-health Nut Bachmann: Prayer & fasting will help defeat health care reform @blondetwit @UriahGunn
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And 30 minutes of aerobic exercise per day...
- Cliff Gerrish
LOL!
- ursi
Will the Hard-Core Starbucks Customer Pay More? The Chain Plans to Find Out - http://www.nytimes.com/glogin...
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Absolutely not. I go there every day. If they raise MY prices, I leave.
- Francine Hardaway
Weird. I was wondering earlier today if Starbucks was going to do this and what would I do. I'd leave too. Why? Because their drinks are already high.
- ursi
Re: Renting IS the New Owning…Ignore the Government Math. - http://howardlindzon.com/...
ursi and Cathryn Hrudicka liked this
"I know health care very well. You should call me. I also beat you to it on renting. I haven't owned a house in #phx since 2006 and I am going to do the same in HMB as soon as I can. I figure I won't have to own a house again in my lifetime and I can live in as many places as I want. There's always someone with a house to rent out."
- Francine Hardaway
We knew this tsunami was coming since 2006. We haven't owned a house since selling ours in Aug 06. Right now we are living in a nice 3,000 sf home that was purchased in 2007 for over $500,000. and is now valued around $310,000. The gentleman who owns it is trying to not default because "his generation" doesn't do that. We shall see what happens.
- ursi
Finally getting around to experimenting with Tweetdeck and groups. Of course found a bug in the first two minutes. Still, it's interesting.
I formed a group of the people I actually like and converse with and find interesting. Helps sift through the minutiae for me without offending anyone. :-)
- ursi
Who are your favourite photographers on flickr? #shareit
okyrhoe, browneyes, Nispell and 59 other people liked this
I wish I could share my imaginary friends but here goes...
- Kol Tregaskes
Kevin Pieper - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Larry Gerdrandt - http://flickr.com/photos...
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Rebekka Guðleifsdóttir - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Marcus Claesson - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Alan Jenkinson - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Alonso Díaz - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Thomas Hawk http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Pete Delucchi
Oh so difficult to answer. I have over 600 contacts on Flickr, most of whom are wonderful photographers.
- Michael Hocter
Steve Boote - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Andrew P Brooks - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Anthony (anthonyko) - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Arnold Pouteau - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Terry Roberts - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Colin Campbell - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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caese - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Chip Phillips - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Paul Corica - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Daniel Cheong - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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David Queenan - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Dougie Latham - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Erick Loitière - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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felixspencer2 - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Claudia Domenig - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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From 10 to 300mm - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Adam (g r e e n g a g e) - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Gazza or Garry (Garry') - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Dietrich Bojko - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Thomas Bucher - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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@Michael Hocter I know what you mean I've got over 1000 but gonna add the 30 or so I have added on FF, right back to work... ;-)
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Mark Keelan - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Helga Kvam - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Igor Laptev - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Marc Crumpler - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Gaëtan Bourque - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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James Neeley - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Jens (jens_i_r) - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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John (johopo) - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Jose Ramon Irusta - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Kah Kit Yoong - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Kaj Bjurman - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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I do actually have another purpose for posting al these links, it's forcing me to do something I've been meaning to do for ages and will help me lots with something else later :-D
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L Plater - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Lara Swift - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Lara Jade Coton - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Lawrence (Lars/Larry) Steinke - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Kerstin Enderlein - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Michael McAreavy - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Lucie Debelkova - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Matthias (Mace2000) - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Maciej Karcz - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Miguel Rita - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
David Baker - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
N. A. Dybisz - http://www.flickr.com/photos... (you might know her as Miss Aniela ;-))
- Kol Tregaskes
navdog - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Mike Stokes - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Örvar Atli Þorgeirsson - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Paul (Panorama Paul) - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Paulo Lopes - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Peter Zéglis - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Jay Patel - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Philippe Sainte-Laudy - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Quimg - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Bogna Kuczerawy - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
OK, yes... this is a lot more than 30, time for a chocolate break ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Robson Castro - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
realitydream - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
John Lehmkuhl - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Rebecca Röske - http://www.flickr.com/people...
- Kol Tregaskes
David Constable - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Richard Thompson - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Cyril Montinola - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Sarah Medway - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Kristen (ScarletFaerie) - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Sean Bolton - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Steve Sawford - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Stijn Coppens - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Stu Worrall - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
I like Katie West and Lou O' Bedlam because of there "personal presence". But there are many more: http://www.flickr.com/people...
- Peter
Trey Ratcliff - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Tadeu Glowacki - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Varina Patel - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Victoria Sims - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
interesting list, some of them are indeed a gifted talent !
- Ron Shoshani
Alex James - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Sam Javanrouh - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Zack Schnepf - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Andreas Levers - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Miss Aniela - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- ha3rvey (free hugs!)
Michale Spear Hawkins - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- ha3rvey (free hugs!)
Deb at Smitten Kitchen - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- ha3rvey (free hugs!)
Helen (~ geisha ~) - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Darren White - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Rajesh Rao - http://www.flickr.com/people...
- Kol Tregaskes
hughes leglise http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- arnet
Andie Smith - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Tim Donnelly - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Russell Turner - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Dusko Almosa - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Shantideva - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol, Just found this list, but wanted to let you know, you can share your imaginary friends if you create a room for them. In other words, put the feeds of your imaginary friends into a room and people can join...
- Justin Korn
Kris Krug - http://www.flickr.com/photos... - Easy!!
- Cheryl Allin
Stephen Charles - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Shaun Roberts - http://flickr.com/photos...
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Tomato - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
@Justin Korn Yeah I figured it out a couple of days ago, find my Flickr favs here: http://friendfeed.com/rooms...
- Kol Tregaskes
innoxiuss - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Natasha - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Rob Kroenert - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
AJ Kessler - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Salvador del Saz - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Matilde B. - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Daniel - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Luka Skracic - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Brett C - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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HANI ALGHAYHAB - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Joep Roosen - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
LamLokman - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Lani Barbitta - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Alexandre Glyptis - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Eric Rolph - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Chris Gin - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Steve Boote - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Skarphéðinn Þráinsson - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Keith Lancaster - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Kayode Okeyode - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Barbara Jones - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
beppe_610 - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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t a k a k o - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
steve g carter - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Michael Chong - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Adrian Klein - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Too many to name! Seriously!
- Anna Lynn M.
Lawrence Winram http://flickr.com/photos...
- Sarah Crisman
Gosh, wasn't expecting any comments on this one, I only update this with new Flickrers when I add them to my Flickr Photography room. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
wow, this is like an entire Kol-dominated thread. I LOVE Trey's HDRs, but there are SO many good Flickr photographers out there.
- Tamar Weinberg
Tamar, one of the first posts I did, I only started it for myself as reference. But anyone is free to join in of course. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Anders R. Naesset - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Nanda Lee - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Jon
urshalicious* - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
One of many: http://flickr.com/photos...
- Håkan Dahlström
Thanks! My afternoon is now totally shot!
- Ken Morley
Machel Spence - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Mona Brooks: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Anika
Millan Rible - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Gunnar Ó Sigmarsson - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
++Kol for the Trey mention.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
skrockodile - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Oh man, this is tough.... Thomas Hawk (http://www.flickr.com/photos...), Andrew Moore (http://www.flickr.com/photos...), Emma.C (http://www.flickr.com/photos...), Extra Super Cutie (http://www.flickr.com/photos...), Karen Strolia (http://www.flickr.com/photos...), *.Melissa.* (http://www.flickr.com/photos...), Justin Korn (http://www.flickr.com/photos...), Lost America (http://www.flickr.com/photos...).. and many more
- Jeremy Brooks
Karoli at http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- ursi
Budi Santoso - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
I've always followed Kol as a resource to find the best photographers, something I know nothing about
- Pat Kitano
Pat, gosh thanks. I just pick out the ones I like, simple as that really. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Thanks for the links ursi and Jeremy. Pat and all, I feed all these photographers into this room: http://friendfeed.com/rooms...
- Kol Tregaskes
@pat me too, Kol's got a good handle on it & is an up and comer himself ;)
- sofarsoShawn
Wow, thank you, Kol. Joined the room!
- ursi
Shawn, ta. Hehe, well I like to be. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Yury Prokopenko - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Maybe it's a bit off topic, but did you ever see the documentary on Flickr the Dutch guy Bert Kommerij made? Flick Radio: http://www.youtube.com/watch... Really fascinating, only photographs from Flickr.
- Ton Zijp
http://www.flickr.com/people... - Kol's list on Flickr
- Brian Sullivan
Thanks, Ton.
- Kol Tregaskes
And thank you, Brian. :-) I've not imported all of them, that would take me ages. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Hm, it's a bit bad in quality. If you want the good version you can download it here: http://ia311232.us.archive.org/3...
- Ton Zijp
stéph and the ocean - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Natalia Campbell - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
see my faves on my flickr stream, there's too many!
- daviza
Kane Gledhill - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Kol Tregaskes
Michael McNaughton: http://www.flickr.com/photos... Paula Reedyk: http://www.flickr.com/photos... and M Kasahara: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- RAPatton
Thanks, Robert. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
f l u x: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Marco
bluechameleon http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- browneyes
roamin http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- browneyes
John (a.k.a. dendroica) liked this
People are still tea bagging?
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Basically. If you realize that the tea-baggers just can't handle a black president, then yes, they are still tea-bagging. I agree with KO, they don't really care who has health care or not. They hate that America has a black president.
- ursi
Obama's Poll Numbers: What it All Means - http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs...
Jeff P. Henderson, Joe Silence is not dead and Steven Perez liked this
"Politics Daily's Walter Shapiro recently put it perfectly: "It is ludicrous to argue that polls taken during the first summer of a new presidency are an infallible predictor of anything. Like the stock market, political numbers fluctuate. In truth, most individual surveys are perishable – seeming wizardly windows into the future that are seer today and gone tomorrow. But the weight of polling over a period of months does help to illuminate larger political trends.""
- chaz2b
from Bookmarklet
And the polls were wrong about the election too! Obama already proved that once!
- ursi
Democrats sell out California's poor, elderly, and disabled in budget deal - http://www.indybay.org/newsite...
Depressing.
- ursi
GUILLOTINES! RT @GottaLaff: RT @msnbc_politics: BREAKING NEWS: Senate Majority Leader Reid says no #healthcare vote until after August
WTF? Come on, Harry! You got too much $$ from insurance companies in your war chest or what?
- ursi
Creepy to wake up to an arseload of fundie Xtian followers and nutbag teabaggers this morning always shoving messages down others throats
Are they bothering you, yet again?
- Helen Sventitsky
Yep. But I think it is that they are using some automated program. Who knows! LOL! But creepy!
- ursi
The right wing claims Prs. O is responsible for Iran's fraudulent election http://thinkprogress.org/2009...
The right wing knows how to lie best!
- ursi
just another day in the life of the oppressed and downtrodden...NO WAIT...
- Helen Sventitsky
AFP: At least 10 leaders of two Iranian reformist political groups who backed presidential candidate Mousavi have been arrested
A.T., ursi, Michael Forian and 2 other people liked this
I like the newsbreak, not the news content. SAD!
- ursi
Report: Before Congressional Run, Scarborough Represented Killer Of Abortion Doctor | TPMMuckraker - http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpoi...
rowlikeagirl, hecho en eu, ursi, Cee Bee and 3 other people liked this
"Over the last week, MSNBC has led the cable-news charge in covering the George Tiller murder -- and the questions it's raised about how implicated the wider anti-abortion movement is in the violence. Rachel Maddow, Keith Olbermann, and Chris Matthews have all covered the story -- Maddow with particular distinction. But until today, one MSNBC show has been conspicuous for its reluctance to touch this major story. That would be Morning Joe, hosted by Joe Scarborough."
- Steven Perez
from Bookmarklet
Is this confirmed? MSNBC is silent?
- Aron Michalski
Aron, it's confirmed. it's in the record
- Karoli
Despicable. And the jerk is already running for president?
- ursi
Goddam it. @karoli just told me she thinks I think @joemsnbc is hot! Not a whit of truth in that.
- Francine Hardaway
US Prius sales stall - BusinessGreen.com - http://www.businessgreen.com/busines...
Jeff P. Henderson, Mike Reynolds, Cristo and 5 other people liked this
"US sales are down 45 per cent so far this year"
- Christopher Galtenberg
from Bookmarklet
I am not sure $2000.00 tax credit not being in place at the time would have stopped me from buying one, but it did help me decide to get one. For those on the fence 50 MPG even at $2.50PG makes a big different s week to week and I love the car and all they come with.
- John D Reasor
This is also a bit misleading as total car sales have taken a huge hit across the board.
- Alex Scoble
Hybridcars.com has related statistics, but as you suggest, Alex, it'd be more interesting to have number for total sales as a reference: http://www.hybridcars.com/news...
- Ken Sheppardson
+1 Alex -- and that point should trump any righty headline that tries to spin this as "green cars losing their luster"
- Christopher Galtenberg
Well, we just bought a 2009 Subaru Outback for around $18,000. I wanted a Prius but didn't want the huge payments!
- ursi
People could be waiting for the 2010 Prius also.
- Cristo
Isn't the conventional wisdom that hybrid sales are pretty much directly tied to gas prices? Prices go up, everybody runs for a hybrid. Prices head back down, everybody forgets about it.
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken, in part. But now that gas prices are headed back up, and this time probably won't slip, you can bet hybrid sales will pick up too. And with more hybrid models coming on line, economies of scale should start shrinking the price differential.
- Kevin Pedraja
Only 2.7 percent of all cars purchased in April were hybrids? And CYTD the total is 2.5 percent. Did not realize the insignificance of that market.
- Steve
They have dropped the price on the Prius to bring them more in line with the copy cat from Honda
- John D Reasor
Shock -- this story is now on Drudge
- Christopher Galtenberg
Just heard on twit.tv that Leo Laporte blocks people with different political views. That's a disappointment. Thought all bleeding liberals were open minded Leo. (via http://friendfeed.com/ericsta...)
Peter, Randy Willard, Roberto Bonini and 10 other people liked this
Haven't blocked you, have I?
- Leo Laporte
Would you like to subscribe to me Leo?
- Zachary TG
Shouldn't believe everything you hear...on the news or the Internet.
- Karoli
We are very open minded, until someone says we're bleeding.
- jcunwired
Yes and your pal Rush lets anybody on, right? Simmer down big guy...
- Peter May
Did Leo say that himself in the most recent TWiT?
- Michael Koby
from Nambu
Eric, that is exactly the kind of inane dialog that causes me to unfollow people. Say something interesting. Make an intelligent argument. Silly gotchas are a waste of time. We need thoughtful dialog not bear baiting.
- Leo Laporte
Leo's bleeding? Quick, get an ambulance!
- Eric Geller
Doesn't sound like Leo's the one who's bleeding.
- Rod Bauer
Leo, I'm certainly willing to make an argument that's cogent. The problem is, there is no argument to be made against ad hominem snark like "bleeding liberals". Particularly when, at this moment in history, liberals don't belong to the party that's bleeding.
- Karoli
I'm with you sistah.
- Leo Laporte
Eric, we all heard what he said - go listen to that bit again - and a third time if you have to
- Chris Heath
Leo did say that he blocks virulent conservatives because he is a virulent liberal. I honestly thought he had blocked me. I am just saying that I am open and welcome all. I don't block because I don't agree. I block spammers. People who are just selling. But, if someone is Liberal and I am conservative, I wont block just because of that. Leo, my advice? Don't mention your political...
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- Eric Standlee
One's political choice is a personal choice, I don't follow Leo or listen to TWiT because of politics, but because of tech conversation that goes on his shows. On occasion Leo does expresses his political views on air, I have to respect it because its his personal choice. Even if people like Leo are considered public figures, they are still entitled to make decisions (such as who they...
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- Michael Chang
I did listen to the whole podcast and I wouldn't do a childish thing such as comment on something that didn't actually happen. I am not arguing with anyone. I voiced my concern with a public figure that I like alienating half of his audience because of damaging remarks. Know who you talk to before you talk smack "dude".
- Eric Standlee
Meh, what's one less conservative in the fan club? :)
- jcunwired
I heard that comment, too, and was a bit irked (being right of center myself). But I also have dropped people from my social media accounts that were incessant political ranters who didn't post about anything else. To me, a comment, very conservative or very liberal, once in a while is fine, even appreciated. But the "one trick ponies" get old fast. I assume he meant those guys. Besides, I can't dislike anyone from Petaluma for too long.
- Doug Fredericks
Give it a break, Eric. Listen to the podcast (again), and place the comment in context. It's clear that L^2 is opinionated and open minded. It's also clear that L^2 is fair minded. But remember, as others have mentioned, L^2's work centers on tech, not partisan topics. Give it a rest.
- Jason Miller
Um. I'm conservative and catholic and in four years of listening to Leo's shows I can't ever remember being offended or alienated by anything anyone has said on his panels. Love the shows, love the panels, love the guests. (time for real conservatives to give the loud mouth yahoos the heave- ho. Eric don't try and speak for Conservatives as a group, you just piss us off ). There, I feel better. Leo- I can't wait for the Google show.
- James Reed
Interesting James. It is okay for you to "pissed off" but not okay for me to express my feelings? Don't make it a political thing if you just want to suppress others' rights to your own. It is okay for Leo to disdain conservatives (or were your ears plugged) and okay for you to disdain "loud mouth yahoos" but not okay for this red blooded American to express his opinion? When did this...
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- Eric Standlee
Oh, Leo has blocked me because of my politics, that's why he hasn't invited to be on TWiT. It has nothing to do with me being a complete nobody. :)
- Robert Hafer
It all comes down to trust. "netcasts you love" I was on board. "from people you trust"??? How can I trust someone who wholesale dismisses me. Yeah, Leo and anyone can decide I am a "complete nobody". That is your prerogative. But, be ready to accept the consequences of blind generalizations like that. Take responsibility. The problem is, when I was growing up it was customary to...
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- Eric Standlee
It's really not that big a deal Eric. The politics of most actors gives me stomach pains; but I still watch movies. Conservatism is rare in the entertainment industry, it's just a fact. Like the Dixie Chicks found out, if you use the celebrity your fans gave you to insult them the fans go away; it all works out. If Leo were to get up on a soapbox I might stop listening and donating, but...
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- Robert Hafer
So does this mean only "liberals" are required to be open-minded?
- ursi
Eric, Leo's not 'wholesale dismissing' you (and others of your political persuasion.) He said the virulent conservatives. And I think it stinks that it has come to this, but some people (of any political orientation) just can't do anything else besides wave their flag. They won't have a decent conversation with you and continually push the envelope in regards to what is socially acceptable online. Leo has every right to block people who can't or won't discuss politics in a civilized manner.
- Chris Heath
ScottBourne Hahahaha ROTFL. Thank you Scott. You made me laugh and you made sense.
- James Reed
I haven't blocked you Robert! In truth, I've only blocked a few people. Mostly spammers and pornographers. I think I blocked one guy whose right-wing snark during the election got to be too much. I even watch Fox News once in a while. I do hide all Twitter posts, however. Does that make me a bad person, too?
- Leo Laporte
Leo does not hide his beliefs, but does not spend a great deal of time airing them, either. Mostly, he sticks to the topic at hand, and that's usually tech related. That's why I listen to him. I worked in Canadian federal politics for 16 years at a very high level. If I wanted to listen to political talk, I would not be listening to Leo.
- Devin Baines
I totally agree with Devin.And I must add, less stinky politics in our life is, better quality it has ! All politicians are populists,demagogs and many are even corrupt !
- Heiti Kruusmaa
heiti: then how do you recommend we organize our nation states? should we even have nation states? i tend to think that the us constitution is a good idea, but i'm open to other ideas.
- Chris Heath
To be honest, I've infered Leo's politics more from Twitter and Friendfeed than any Netcast. And Leo, if you you don't hide some of Twitter, you can become mired in the drivel; so I'll join your Bad Twitterer Possie.
- Robert Hafer
Hello Leo, and everyone. I'm new here, but have been a Leo fan since I discovered TWIT and The Tech Guy a few years ago. As a life-long, non-virulent conservative, I have to admit my ears did sorta twitch when Leo made the comment. But I also realize he has every right to state his opinions about anything he wants on his shows and anywhere else he wishes. Besides, I have children and...
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- Don Smith
Good to know there's still some level headed conservatives out there Don. I hope sentiments like yours prevail in your party as they seem to have lost their way.
- Chris Heath
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