Let me get this straight, wingnuts: you say that Obama has accomplished nothing as president so far. But then again, when he wins the Nobel Prize, then you say that he hasn't been president long enough to do anything. So, which is it? Has he been around too long, or not been around long enough?
Jealousy! The only award Bushie will ever get is a gold medal for finally finishing that children's book he likes so much /sarcasm
- Rene, Pro Button Pusher
It's cool Glen, he used plenty of ? That's how Fox News does it, don't they? :P
- Johnny
Honestly when I heard this morning the first thing I said was "Why, what did he do?" I voted for the guy FWIW.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Daniel: When I woke up this morning and saw it on Twitter, I thought that maybe Fox News grabbed another Onion story and ran with it. Then I realized that it was true and had an even bigger laugh. :D
- Steven Perez
I think they gave it to the wrong person..... They should have given it to the American people for electing Barack Obama so he can do what needs to be done. That said, my first thought was also full of layers like yours Steven, and then amazement hit me.
- Rasmus Lauridsen
Dude, you're a troll. Aren't you supposed to be slaying trolls?
- Joel Bennett
I'm too busy laughing at them this morning.
- Steven Perez
Steven, there you go spouting logic again. Haven't you been told? Logic is irrelevant.
- The original Kevin
==Daniel. I'm a big Obama supporter and I'm still going WTF? He's done nothing to deserve it.
- EricaJoy
it is a sham by the Alfred Nobel committee! who paid them off to give the peace prize to Obama the Marxist ? What peace has he accomplished so far ? or is it because he is keeping the american people from revolution & keeping them from killing everyone in the U.S. crooked government due to a "intentionally created" economic crisis ?
- Mekkar
OH NOES ITS A SOCIALST PLOT I KNEWS IT!!!1!!ELEVENTYONE!!!
- Steven Perez
Actually, a lot more froth. I'm a bit disappointed. :D
- Steven Perez
from IM
And nobody paid us off, we're all for a little socialist plot, even though the American "socialists" would be placed waaaay to the right on the Norwegian political scale.
- Eivind
So everyone who disagrees with something related to Obama is a wingnut? I've seen commentary from plenty of people who generally support Obama who are baffled by his being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. I also agree with Glen that this language is not inviting a constructive discussion.
- joey
@joey - I think here Steven is pointing out that two common criticisms of Obama, which often come from the same people, are incompatible. Either he isn't accomplishing anything despite how long he's been here, or he hasn't had enough time to accomplish something worthy of the NPP.
- Andrew C (✓)
Andrew, sure, but there are plenty of people who are not thrilled with him accepting the Nobel Peace Prize who do not offer those criticisms simultaneously, or perhaps even at all. It seems these days that any time someone has a criticism of Obama, said person is branded as the best pal of Rush Limbaugh and I'm tired of hearing 'wingnut' thrown around to describe everyone who has a dissenting opinion. After the last eight years of that kind of attitude, shouldn't we be moving forward?
- joey
I dunno, I've seen (and approve of) criticism from Obama's left (Glenn Greenwald). And center (Brad DeLong).
- Andrew C (✓)
Andrew, I appreciate that. It's just frustrating that I'm suddenly a 'wingnut' because I dare to have a different opinion. My disagreement doesn't make me a Limbaugh fan any more than my disagreement with Bush made me a terrorist.
- joey
I feel a blog post coming up on this subject.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Steven. I know what you're going for, but your statements aren't mutually exclusive. You can believe that he's done nothing so far that is deserving of a Nobel Peace Prize. I'm with Daniel; I voted for the guy, but I'm kind of perplexed by this award.
- Rob H.
Steven, then are you a 'wingnut' too, or am I missing your requirements for being categorized by that insult?
- joey
Patience, Joey. I'm writing up a post right now.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Well, if I'm misunderstanding what you're trying to say, I'd appreciate having that cleared up personally rather than being used as an example in a blog post.
- joey
Um, what? Well, I'd definitely vote for the person who didn't tell me to go fuck myself.
- joey
Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room.
- Eivind
Jeunelle, that doesn't prove your point at all. That doesn't prove that any of us were 'suckered' by Obama or that we vote for 'what we like to hear' only. All that proves is that 'go fuck yourself' isn't the best campaign slogan if you're looking to convince people that you have their best interests at heart. I suppose it proves that we don't vote for extreme versions of what we don't like to hear, but that seems like common sense to me.
- joey
And I'm sure you'll cling to that "answer" come hell or high water... or despite any rational argument to the contrary that comes your way.
- Mark J
Jeunelle, that's...wonderful. I didn't ask you to prove anything or give me answers. You're the one who insisted that you had proved something and I was merely saying that all you did was spout an offensive phrase. That's all.
- joey
Jeunelle, if you want to not be offensive, I suggest avoiding the phrase 'go fuck yourself.' ;)
- joey
WHY DON'T YOU ALL JUST GO AHEAD AND SHUT THE HELL UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Akiva
YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- The Real sofarsoShawn
Because I'm pretty sure that if I shut up at appropriate times, I can no longer be part of the wingnut family. And then where will I get my fruitcakes from!?!?
- joey
CAPSLOCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 (boy do I add value)
- Sparky, lurking
I just blocked my second person on FF! Now it's blissfully quiet in here! (Unfortunately I won't know what other obscene rhetoric I'm missing, but I'm okay with that.)
- Mark J
Jeunelle, if your goal is to be a social media expert, you're not exactly winning followers and fans here.
- Rochelle
OK, I'm shutting down this thread for a while. Joey, I haven't forgotten about you, and I will address your concerns at great length. You are not the first person who has brought up this issue. (I turn around for five minutes to write a blog post ...)
- Steven Perez