Eric Logan
Billionaire Sheldon Adelson Says He Might Give $100M To Newt Gingrich Or Other Republican - Forbes -
Billionaire Sheldon Adelson Says He Might Give $100M To Newt Gingrich Or Other Republican - Forbes
Sheldon Adelson plays as stubbornly in politics as he does in business. So the criticisms that he’s trying to personally buy the presidential election for Newt Gingrich are met with a roll of the eyes. “Those people are either jealous or professional critics,” Adelson tells me during his first interview since he and his wife began funneling $11 million, with another $10 million injection widely expected, into the former speaker’s super PAC, Winning Our Future. “They like to trash other people. It’s unfair that I’ve been treated unfair—but it doesn’t stop me. I might give $10 million or $100 million to Gingrich.” Adelson, the 78-year-old CEO of casino giant Las Vegas Sands, certainly can afford to: With a net worth of roughly $25 billion, that $11 million, which jolted Gingrich’s flatlining presidential bid back to life, equates to 0.044% of his fortune. For someone with a $1 million net worth, the equivalent would be $440, or a two-night stay at Adelson’s Venetian casino. Adelson could personally fund an entire presidential campaign—say, $1 billion or so—and not even notice. Is that fair? “I’m against very wealthy ­people attempting to or influencing elections,” he shrugs. “But as long as it’s doable I’m going to do it. Because I know that guys like Soros have been doing it for years, if not decades. And they stay below the radar by creating a network of corporations to funnel their money. I have my own philosophy and I’m not ashamed of it. I gave the money because there is no other legal way to do it. I don’t want to go through ten different corporations to hide my name. I’m proud of what I do and I’m not looking to escape recognition.” He’s also proud of his hawkish defense of Israel—his wife is Israeli and his young sons carry Israeli passports. Yet those who have categorized his patronage of Gingrich and other Republicans as a one-issue investment have it wrong. The man whose net worth, by Forbes’ calculations, has jumped more ($21.6 billion) during Obama... more... - Eric Logan from Bookmarklet
Two words: fucking appalling. Sheldon Adelson epitomizes much of what has gone off the rails in American democracy and politics. - Sean McBride
Eric: you should check out this group and feel free to contribute: Mondoweiss on Friendfeed - Sean McBride
Eric: check out this thread for some interesting discussion: - Sean McBride
It is appalling, but he makes a great point that it's happening across the political spectrum by pointing out Soro's. - Eric Logan
Soros is an appealing straw man to divert the attention from the Rights excesses. - WarLord
What's good for the goose is good for the gander. No straw man required. - Eric Logan
Eric: would you agree that it would be useful to pull together all the facts about which billionaires are contributing how much money to which political organizations and politicians in the pursuit of which political agendas? To graph it and get a handle on it? - Sean McBride
I would agree and Adelman forthrightly states that he did not produce a bunch of front companies to hide his contributions. I also find it interesting that he made Billions under the present administration's policies, but still supports the opposition on ideological grounds. It's obviously not about the money. - Eric Logan
Eric -- for Adelman it's all about *ideology* -- Likud Zionism to be exact -- militant and narrow ethnic nationalism. The question is, how many other billionaires are members of his political network? What negative impacts are they having on the American national interest? - Sean McBride
Eric -- Americanism is not about the militant ethnic nationalism of any single group -- it's about the productive interactions of creative and talented individuals on a plane that transcends ethnic identity. That is the core belief and value that has made America great. - Sean McBride
I shudder to think Santorum would do with $100m. - Kevin Fox
Santorum? $100m could buy a lot of lube. - Tudor Bosman
funny Soris name always cvome up in some sort of false equivalence, everybody does it. That of course excuses the worse excesses of an Israel firster - WarLord
It may be false equivalence mathematically, but it is the exact same methodology. Soro's and Adelman are both Jewish. Demonization seems misplaced and lacking substantive validity. Unless you consider Soro's an America firster. Those that do should be required to wear a dunce cap IMHO. - Eric Logan
Eric -- I'm not sure I understand your point. How many other billionaires are in league with Sheldon Adelson in pushing an ethnic nationalist agenda that has nothing to do with American interests or values? I would guess at least a dozen; possibly even two dozen or more. One needs to look at Adelson's total network, particularly his network of activist billionaires, not just Adelson. As for George Soros: he's not an ethnic nationalist. He seems to be a typical American progressive. Whether one is Jewish or not isn't the point here. - Sean McBride
Israel firster is a new racial epithet if you fail to realize that continue to use whatever derogatory term fits the agenda, but don't expect others not to recognize the canard. George Soro's activism may seem falsely equivalent to you, but his arbitrage strategies and financial backing of candidates that enrich him with their policy agenda and decisions do not seem like false equivalence to me. - Eric Logan
How is "Israel Firster" a racial epithet? It describes someone, like Sheldon Adelson, who puts the interests of Israel above every other interest -- including the American interest. Such people exist. I have also encountered Ireland Firsters, Saudi Firsters, etc. Ethnic nationalists almost invariably place their agenda above the interests of every other nation. - Sean McBride
Eric -- George Soros is not an ethnic nationalist. He is not trying to drive Americans into wars on behalf of a foreign nation. In fact, he doesn't even seem to be ethnocentric -- he is focused on the issues that most concern *all* Americans -- not just the issues that most affect his ethnic group or the interests of a foreign government. And Soros seems to operate as a rational independent-minded individual -- not as a member of a cabal or cult of a few dozen billionaires acting in concert to control American foreign policy on behalf of the interests and messianic biblical agenda of a foreign nation. - Sean McBride
That's your opinion and you are welcome to hold it. I am not obligated to agree with you. The post at this link lays out pretty well Mr. Soro's activism which includes funding a few wars. - Eric Logan
With which part of my opinion did you disagree? :) I just posted a fairly complex cluster of thoughts. Which wars has Soros funded? - Sean McBride
Eric: I searched on "war" in that document and couldn't turn up any evidence that George Soros is a warmonger, especially a warmonger, like Sheldon Adelson or Haim Saban, acting on behalf of the ethnic nationalist agenda of a foreign government. Soros seems to be decidedly anti-war in outlook. - Sean McBride
Funded wars, go look at the history of his war profiteering investments. The guy who hated George W's. largest investment in 2006 was in a company called Haliburton. - Eric Logan
Eric: can you flesh that out a bit more? With cites? - Sean McBride
Eric -- some of Sheldon Adelson's fellow pro-Israel billionaires and super-wealthy oligarchs: 1. Arnon Milchan 2. Aubrey Chernick 3. Bernard Marcus 4. Boris Berezovsky 5. Bruce Kovner 6. Bruce Rappaport 7. Donald Trump 8. Eli Broad 9. Frank Lowy 10. Haim Saban 11. Henry Kravis 12. Irving Moskowitz 13. Larry Silverstein 14. Laurence Tisch 15. Lester Crown 16. Lev Leviev 17. Marc Rich 18. Mel Sembler 19. Michael Bloomberg 20. Michael Milken 21. Michael Steinhardt 22. Mort Zuckerman 23. Paul Singer 24. Richard Mellon Scaife 25. Roman Abramovich 26. Ronald Lauder 27. Ronald Perelman 28. Rupert Murdoch 29. S. Daniel Abraham 30. Sam Zell 31. Stephen Schwarzman 32. Steve Forbes 33. Steve Wynn 34. Sumner Redstone 35. Viktor Vekselberg. Right? That's more than two dozen actually. And there are quite a few more. Collectively they control vastly more wealth than George Soros. - Sean McBride
Eric -- "Soros buys Halliburton" Ok -- point taken. Hey -- maybe Soros is a covert member of Adelson's network -- an operative whose mission is to control the progressive left. :) (Perhaps I should remove the smiley icon.) - Sean McBride
But: was George Soros an Iraq War ringleader? No. Is he an Iran War ringleader? No. Is he a Global War on Terror and Clash of Civilizations ringleader? No. - Sean McBride