I'm 23 today. Old enough to start conquering the world!! :) UPDATE: It's 2010 and I'm 24 - surprised how much have changed in my life since then. Time to stop for a while and think over what has been accomplished during 23rd year of presence on Earth. All in all, everyone have a great Friday! :D
Sasha: As the future conquerer of the world, I want to wish you a happy birthday, and to pledge my eternal loyalty to your crown. May you rule for many happy and healthy generations!
- Morgan
Guys, thanks a lot for all the kind words :) you are a part of my fiesta! Would like to invite everyone to the party. coming to Belarus in the near future? ;)
- Sasha Kovaliov
from fftogo
oooh look at how young and cute Paul is! :) very cool that you saved this! What was your job title then (intern for ______)? What location did you work at? Does that # mean you were the 39,325 employee hired by M$?
- Susan Beebe
I worked on Win NT, debugging OLE. It was pretty bad because the NT OLE code was fine; all the bugs were in 16-bit OLE apps. There are few things worse than debugging interactions between two 16-bit apps you don't have the source to!
- Gabe
Wow, 16 bit OLE. Why didn't you force everyone to use 32bit Word and Excel? It would've been very Apple of you.
- Eric
Yup, Redmond. I think I worked in building 4, which may not exist anymore, and lived across the street at "Timberlawn". I worked on the installer for "Plus Pack for Windows 95".
- Paul Buchheit
Eric, it gets worse: one of the first apps I had to look at was Ichitaro, Japan's #1 word processor at the time. It sure would have made things easier if I could have forced everybody to only use 32-bit English apps!
- Gabe
I wonder if it was some kind of foresight to hang on to your old Microsoft badges, but not your diplomas.
- Clare Dibble
Nice, a blue badge. I consult for Microsoft and have an Orange badge.
- Alan Le
Wow! I was there that same summer interning for "Office Team Manager" I must have started a week or 2 before you as my employee number was 39207.
- Joe Beda
I think I returned my badge, so I can't remember what my employee number was. I worked on porting the standard ms installer from windows to the mac.
- Private Sanjeev
Sanjeev - a worthy cause for sure! :P
- Susan Beebe
It was a piece of code that Ben Slivka wrote to produce cab files :)
- Private Sanjeev
OMG Amani! And Shevonne (HOTTIE)!! And Mark! And Mark!! And DERRICK!! And your GORGEOUS kids!!!!! Thanks for sharing!! *edit: Should I be scared I named you guys w/out looking at the caption? I think I have a problem...
- Mona Nomura
Thanks to Anika and her husband for hosting. We had a great time. And for the record...Derrick is everything you think he is AND a bag of chips.
- Mark Krynsky
Depends on what you think he is tho...
- Outsanity
Derrick's ok. Mark K. tried to get me drunk on some South African booze that was discovered by monkeys. No joke. Everyone was the bee's knees, and if you aren't following them, you should. They will enrich your FF experience.
- Derrick
I was a little bummed we didn't have Mo & Morgan though but we're already talking about a 3rd meetup and I already volunteered to host it.
- Mark Krynsky
This pic turned out nice. It was that camera of yours Mark. That was fun and the traffic getting there didn't even aggravate me. Derrick's ok too! LOL... ;-)
- Amani
you rock dude. I read encyclopedias too as a child. Read a set one summer after we moved.
- RAPatton
Hey Shey if you get that #23 super power working, then I want one that is like krytonite to my dog's breath :)
- Patrick Jordan
Anyone read those ChildLife books? I loved them as a kid. I'd read encyclopedias, too, but not back-to-back. When I ran out of my books, I'd find my mother's, no matter where she hid them. Seems she didn't think Sidney Sheldon, Erica Jong and Danielle Steel were appropriate for a preteen. Ok, I'm exaggerating; I actually found Jong boring. Zipless? WTF?
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
@Rodfather Maybe sometime in the future, distant future
- Shey
Thanks for not being too freaked out y'all -- FFers are teh awesomest!
- Shey
Freaked out? You so silly, Shey. Your list made me smile almost as much as the picture on your site of you and your wife. You cool peeps. Even if you do cuddle during football. HA!
- Nakachi
I just imported a bunch of my latest Google Reader shares and they were all marked as "yesterday". This has happened before with other services. What's up with this bug?
Did you force the GReader refresh in FF? When did you share the items in GReader? When were the items posted in GReader? The staff might need more info and I wouldn't complain, I'm sure they are very busy chaps. :-) Generally things coming into FF slowly is down to that particular service, e.g. Digg is slow and sometime Twitter is. I find my GReader stuff comes into FF hours. even a day after I share them, so I've started forcing the refresh manually.
- Kol Tregaskes
I haven't had any slow imports with Reader, but Flickr is always about a day or two slow for me. There are probably way too many factors to be able to "blame" someone.
- Mitch
@Kol: I forced the refresh, and the items were posted in Reader minutes before the import.
- dgw
This seems to be happening on manual refreshes only. But it's still happening.
- dgw
It just happened to me with an auto-refresh. Guess it's not constrained. How is this not even acknowledged by the devs?
- dgw
And again this evening. Seems to happen on the first import, manual or automatic, of a given period of n hours where 2<n<20.
- dgw
from fftogo
Bump. Again. This is still happening, six months later, with no acknowledgement whatsoever from FriendFeed's employees. Am I the only one experiencing this or something?
- dgw
Is it dependent on the published date/time of the item rather than the shared date/time?
- Mitch
No, items from GReader are usually imported with the timestamp set to when FriendFeed picked them up. Items from as long ago as a month still should show up as the date they were picked up.
- dgw
from email
I write software in my sleep during the busiest facets of my project; and they work in the morning
- RAPatton
RAP- done that myself once or twice :) Creepy.
- Roberto Bonini
Me too, but the software I write in my sleep usually just does stupid stuff that we don't really need. :)
- iTad
I don't know what's freakier, the fact that you write code in your sleep or the fact that you remember it when you wake up.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I dreamed last night that I had to organize a meet up, based on #hashtags, and everyone had the wrong tags. Everyone ranting at me woke me up at 5am.
- Ian May
i was dreaming about new features in feedly last night...but they aren't there this morning.
- Trent Olson
Trent: if you share with us some of those dreams, we will try to look into making them reality :-) Have a great sunday!
- Edwin Khodabakchian
thanks Edwin! to be honest, they weren't very good anyway! you've already implemented my "exclude websites from using mini bar" idea, for which i'm hugely thankful...
- Trent Olson
seen this before.... years ago... made me laugh then and still does..gotta admit it almost rings true!
- Rob Sellen :o)
maybe that's why I wake up at 3 am.
- @CrystalinaB
Searching for something has led me past this post. Was going to press the "like" button and realized I already did. So this is my second "like".
- Sarah Peterman
This is definitely true for me. I sometimes think about programs I'm working on in my sleep too.
- Mike Child
THE REMOTE SETTLEMENT of Burketown, in Australia’s northern Queensland, is not the sort of place you’d expect people to travel thousands of miles to visit. With a population of just 178, Burketown sits in one of Australia’s most remote shires. But every September and October, a small group of individuals journey from all corners of the country for the appearance of a remarkable and dramatic cloud called the Morning Glory. Clouds don’t usually have names, nor are they normally linked to a particular location, but then the Morning Glory is no normal cloud.
- Cee Bee
Looking like a huge white roll of meringue, it stretches up to 600 miles (about the length of Britain) and sweeps over Burketown at speeds of up to 35mph. The visitors who come to marvel at this beautiful and awe-inspiring meteorological phenomenon are an intrepid group of glider pilots, for whom the cloud promises the most unique and thrilling flying conditions of anywhere in the...
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- Cee Bee
#8 - I can bend the top of my thumb back at an almost 90 degree angle to the rest of it. I call it “Hitchhiker’s Thumb” and it totally freaks Tad out.
- Lindsay
from Bookmarklet
I don't know if it's officially called that... that's just what I've always called it!
- Lindsay
Oh god - why did you post that pic? HIDE!!!
- iTad
Put me down for font junkie/typography aficionado as well.
- teleken
@Spidra, I'm flat footed because of it. My ankles (especially my right ankle which I sprained as a teenager) look like they stick way too far out unless I make a conscious effort to stand on the edge of my foot. My son has inherited this from me too, I believe... unfortunate for him, but maybe good protection if the draft is reinstated!
- Lindsay
@Igor - Mona did on on Friday... Then she tagged some people in Facebook to do theirs... She didn't tag me (:P Mona!!!!), but I did it anyway...
- Lindsay
Lindsay - can I have some Girl Scout Cookies, please? ;)
- Mona Nomura
Enjoyed reading yours. I liked 25 I find small dogs dressed up in clothes/costumes very entertaining. I do not think I will do mine. It will be X-rated! LMAO
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
There's a tag limit! So I keep removing and adding, removing and adding people. :(
- Mona Nomura
Funny! I'm flat footed too and can twist my thumb backwards.
- jho
I can do the thumb thing too http://tr.im/9xrl (post-processed just to freak Tad out a little more, and because the quality was crap)
- xero
@Spidra - Yeah, I read your list before I did mine... gave me inspiration for a few of mine. :)
- Lindsay
@Mona - I figured you'd get around to me eventually. Just giving you a hard time. You're still my bud! :)
- Lindsay
My left thumb goes way back (I'm talking 45 degrees), but my right one not so much--one hitchhikers thumb here....
- Kelly W.
I can do that too, except fully 90 degrees, and probably a bit more! I have a similar thing if I apply a little pressure to any of my fingers, the outer joint just bends backwards. =p
- Daniel Bruce
Ditto on Mona, this list sounds a lot like me, too. I'm actually *working* on mine, found a White Castle receipt in my car and started writing it :-)
- mandyvan
LOL @ mandyvan! You should just scan in the receipt when you're done. Then you'd cover the handwriting meme too!
- Lindsay
Huh. I could have sworn I commented on this. Oh well.
- Phil Glockner
Funny you should say that. My wife and I discussed Southwest's lack of presence on iPhone just this morning. The weather in much of the country right now is perfect for a "Want to Get Away?" iPhone Campaign.
- David J. Hinson
@Patrick fftogo.com is pretty hot...but I hear a native app is coming, too....can't freakin' wait for that!
- Sarah Perez
How about every fast food restaurant. Order your food before hand and get notified when ready.
- Robert Chute
I tried fftogo a while back and ended up going back to the main FF site - I've also tried the Nambu native app - but I also can't wait to see the genuine FF native app :)
- Patrick Jordan
I often wonder... When people say "iPhone app" do they really mean "something that works well on my iPhone" or do they really _always_ want to go to the app store and download something?
- Ben Hedrington
Marshall: that, too. I'd like to see more usability improvements, as well. To access specific rooms and lists requires a lot of refreshes of pages. It'd be nice if I could access my rooms and lists using an App tab rather than a link on a web page.
- Mark Trapp
the upcoming app will make use of the camera for faster sharing
- Sarah Perez
can we get back to the question about companies (beside friendfeed!) in need of an iPhone app? I really want to hear your suggestions. =)
- Sarah Perez
I wonder if FF is developing a bookmarklet for mobile safari. Added: Sorry, Sarah. :( Because of the phone's limitations my app space is filled with utility tools. The iPhone interface for mobile safari is sufficient for me... For example, I would never purchase or install the Chipotle app (that disappeared)
- Mona Nomura
LOL, leave it to friendfeeders to turn every discussion into one about friendfeed...ha ha
- Sarah Perez
Sorry Sarah - my bad on FF mention. How 'bout Geico - the iPhone is easy enough for a caveman and all that ...
- Patrick Jordan
@Patrick no worries! :) Geico, hmmm...yeah...
- Sarah Perez
@Amani Whoa. big list! Except Nike and Amazon have apps already...have to check those other ones though...
- Sarah Perez
@Sarah - you asked! :) Yes, I wasn't sure about all of them, but some of those would be easy IMO. Are you working on a special project? My mind is racing with ideas.
- Amani
The car companies maybe? I remember Jaguar doing something in early iPhone days. They could possibly do something cool with multimedia, letting you try out different colors / add-ons etc. via an iPhone app before having to go in person ...
- Patrick Jordan
Ben, I wonder the same thing because Southwest has a mobile presence which has served me well the past 4 years. And no, I don't have an iPhone.
- Anika
Sarah - bit late now obviously, but one more ripe category I think = more fast food chains (Chipotle borught out an app that lets you order on the iPhone last week) - also, I linked to your post, at: http://tinyurl.com/9jlhkz
- Patrick Jordan
more companies don't have iphone apps because apple has made the process onerous and expensive. Even after you jump through all the hoops to make one, you are not able to distribute it because it is "waiting in line" for them to review it. These companies don't have them because they are being fiscally responsible in a down economy. A mobile web interface is a much cheaper and more flexible choice. But since the iphone browser is pretty good with regular websites, there's not so much pressure to do that.
- jacob robbins
I don't see all this 'approval' crap with my Blackberry. I can run pretty much anything that is JRE based. I don't need to ask my provider's permission either.
- Ian May
This approval stuff (or lack of it) is why I like Symbian OS, for what it's worth. At least I know there isn't a Big Gatekeeper(TM) preventing me from installing what I want, where I want and how I want...
- Tyson Key
One of my poor attempts is above. It was something I drew when I was young (many years ago). I used to draw all the time but I've not drawn anything for ages now. I'd like to start again and combine drawing with photography in the future. My palette is limited to pencil and black/white drawings. Painting, for me, is a struggle and colouring always comes out a little wrong. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
from Bookmarklet
@Kol - I can assure you that you're still better at drawing than I am, for what it's worth.
- Tyson Key
vijay, thanks for the links. I did forget to say please share you works of art here please? :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Glad to share Kol. My colleagues are pretty damn good IMO and I use every chance I get to show off their work :D
- vijay
The question should be: Do Artists still "paint, draw, sculpt..." ? I guess so, because Painting can mean creating images with Processing, and Sculpting can mean making physical computing constructs with Arduino and drawing can be fabbing with a 3D printer from 3D generative algorithms... Of course there are artists here. Just a thought.
- Brad Kligerman
I still draw stick people and houses with big windows and a chimney with a plume of smoke, anything else is beyond my capabilities.
- M F
I typically paint (acrylics, oils, watercolors), but I also do a bit of hand sculpting, pottery wheel, and if you forced me to, I will also draw, though I prefer charcoals and pastels for that.
- Hookuh Tinypants
Brad, yes true. This question is asking if there are any 'traditional' artists out there?
- Kol Tregaskes
Amanda, any examples of your work that we could see? :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
@Kol: I'll have to hunt around for something. I've tended to give away whatever I create, but I know I've kept some stuff. It's been a while since I've actually done anything, because I've been so damn busy with school and work.
- Hookuh Tinypants
Nice thread, Kol. I used to draw all the time as a youngster but lost touch until I had some free time and took a drawing class at a local nonprofit art school about 5 years ago. Just like you, I cannot paint, either, and have no eye for color, so I stick with B&W. Here are a couple of charcoal sketches from that class: http://huffstuff.com/images... and http://huffstuff.com/images... . I loved that class so much and would love to go back.
- rowlikeagirl
Amanda, if you find anything I'll look forward to seeing it. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Ah, I suppose it's cool to pimp my stuff in this thread? ;)
- karchesky
I used to draw constantly until I went to college. Then it just stopped. I've been trying recently to sate the creative urges with photography. But I kinda suck at it.
- The original Kevin
yes. me, I do it for a living and I went to school for it and all that.
- JoEllen
I am a potter, and it seems not too many potters are on here. www.revolutionpottery.com
- Holly
I do all kinds of art - mostly drawing with a brush and ink these days, but also collage and digital painting with a Wacom tablet... http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Paula W
I used to be able to draw with media on paper... I am out of practice, though. I exercise my creative skills in other ways (mostly through Photoshop). If I had more free time I'd like to get back into drawing and painting.
- Lindsay
Yes I paint! But I mainly use just hand drawing for work, since there is not a software program that does concept design as quickly and well. My Painting Portfolios are here: http://bit.ly/dxqiD
- Kay Designer
I'm a Google Chrome user by default (on my home laptop).
- Mike Reynolds
I am. Since the day it came out. Ad-block using windows HOSTS file. :-)
- vijay
Chrome is default on my work laptop, but waiting for Linux version for home PC. To be honest, I don't miss extensions that much, except for Mozilla Weave. I have (re)discovered bookmarklets. I would prefer to have "/" to start a search instead of ctrl-f.
- Warren Butler
Been using Chrome (as my default) since day one. =)
- deepikaur
I haven't even used it ever. This is mostly because i'm on Linux though...
- Tom Ribbens
from IM
I have never used it because I'm on a Mac. I do use Windows but this is the bigger issue: why do I need another new browser? What's wrong with Firefox? I have tons of add ons that I love and can't see browsing the net without them. Flock is a good one with its unique features. Even Orca has something unique about it. It doesn't seem like Chrome offers enough of a new dimension to browsing that I should really care. Why bother? If they're gonna make a browser, why wouldn't they give us a reason to switch?
- Nathan Mylott
Nathan: I disagree to a point. As noted before, I haven't tried it, but supposedly javascript performance is way better than anything that was out when they first released Chrome. This is major in today's world I believe. I'm an avid user of Meebo, and it often is very noticable that Meebo is a javascript application that actually is too heavy for many browsers.
- Tom Ribbens
I also read Firefox is taking on the battle with Chrome and is working on optimizing its javascript engine too. For this, I thank Chrome for making my browser of choice faster, and therefor making my IM client of choice also faster.
- Tom Ribbens
Nathan, you raise good points there. What attracts me to Chrome are its speed, particularly re javascript as Tom pointed out too, the clean UI and the option to create desktop shortcuts for frequently used websites. What keeps me using Firefox is mostly the extensions and toolbars I don't want to do without. However, there are also things that bug me in Firefox (most notably the huge memory footprint), and that's why I'm on the lookout for another default browser.
- Ray Metzen
I switched from Firefox to Chrome as well. Speed, thanks to the optimization for javascript, is the major issue, especially when I'm using my Vista-powered HP 2133. I'm not sure how long Google can keep me on Chrome, but I must say thank you to them, 'coz they push the browser war to another level.
- Jansen Lu
I would like to but no addon support yet. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
I've been on-and-off the chrome, but decided to switch fulltime when it came out of beta.
- Sung W. Lim
Chrome is default for all things not SEO-related. For SEO i need plugins and toolbars, which leaves Firefox/Flock as the only option.
- Egor Kunovsky
Chromium nightly builds for me! Chrome is great. It loads up everything so much faster then FF, and I love the all-in-one search/address bar and inbuilt memory manager.
- Will Higgins™
For me, it can't be default without addon support. So for now FF is still my default but I do use Chrome for few things.
- Dee @ Holycool.net
I've been on and off Chrome for about a month. I'd say I use it ~70% of the time. Most days I'm impressed with its speed - but some days (like today) I get tired of having to hunt down rss feeds and being unable to use add-ons (especially adblock plus).
- Ayo
I decided today to change form FF to Chrome!
- psioniks
i use firefox only..... at least, till now :)
- yagami
Using Chrome as default but also have a screen with Firefox because I like Feedly, Google Bookmarks, Extensions. Tabs can be dragged and dropped Chrome to Firefox and back quite easily (just URL)
- Julian Edward
I did til today. The new dev build make mine crashes every two minutes. I'm back on Fx 3 til the next update. Good to keep up with Fx improvements!
- Jérôme
I also noticed that some websites make chrome beta version crash (facebook particularly). that's quite annoying but it doesn't happen so often to me.
- stanjourdan
a larger screen is also appreciable :). As Patrik said, many extensions are not so important. The most important thing is the content in the middle ;)
- stanjourdan
I was using Chrome, now I'm using Firefox B4, might switch back, but a clean install made Firefox so nice and snappy, which was why I was using Chrome....
- Canageek
fast, bookmark bar, clear, more space for web page...i love chrome.
- Tumutanzi
Cool. Any way for it to appear in the Mac OS X menu bar instead of the dock? Or is that not possible with Air?
- Mark Trapp
We looked pretty hard Mark, but couldn't find a way. I'd love to know if there's some way to do it in Air.
- Casey Muller
Not bad, if you're into that kind of thing.
- Ron Bailey
I wonder why it asks for password instead of remote key. Aren't remote keys designed for third party usage patterns such as notifiers etc? I mean, Fftogo works with remote key, why shouldn't notifier do so as well?
- Playing Well with Others
Wonderwool, the notifier is first party usage :-)
- Casey Muller
No problem Casey, I figured it was something you guys had looked at. One other thing as I've got it running for a few hours: it notifies me of people's comments that I'm not subscribed to (presumably because they are commenting on a post that someone I am subscribed to posted). It's one thing to see those comments at FriendFeed.com, but it's unwanted to have to be notified of them in real time.
- Mark Trapp
Casey, technically — yes (being built and offered by friendfeed and all), but everything that's not under friendfeed.com domain (be it a service or an app) is "outside service", which should be treated as a point of possible attack and thus sandboxed or made safe otherwise. If you take a look at flickr uploader, it uses the same model as any service that's not flickr.com — log into...
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- Playing Well with Others
Good points Wonderwool, and we thought about both options. One thing to keep in mind about Air though, is that it's a browser technology, and even shares cookies with your web browser. So logging in to the notifier app is exactly the same level of security risk as logging in to friendfeed.com with Safari or IE.
- Casey Muller
Thanks for the suggestion Mark, those kind of preferences are definitely on our to-do list.
- Casey Muller
ERROR: When I run the AIR app, nothing happens. I see the "ff" icon in the system tray. If I right-click and choose "Settings", the notification window pops-up for a half-second, and then disappears. If I right-click and choose "Settings" again, nothing happens. I've uninstalled the app, reinstalled the app, restarted the computer. Always the same result. Other AIR apps work fine (Tweetdeck for example). I'm running Windows XP, Firefox 3.0.7 and IE 8.
- Nathan Chase
Sorry about the trouble Nathan, can you try again now?
- Casey Muller
Casey - Yes! It works now. Was there something broken on my profile on your end to interface with the app? It started working as soon as you posted.
- Nathan Chase
Yes, I reset your notifier settings to the defaults, thanks for bearing with us.
- Casey Muller
@Casey - no problem - just wanted to help so that you knew of any bugs. Thanks!
- Nathan Chase
IDEA: This notifier would be the perfect vehicle to work out showing direct responses to posts I've made. Showing responses to posts that I've commented on would also be a big help - as the current process of going to my http://friendfeed.com/nathanc... page and combing through the posts to see what's been updated is not ideal. So some thoughts for you - to have that functionality as toggles in addition to selecting from one's Lists. Thanks!
- Nathan Chase
No he doesn't...I contest the result to the supreme court which I, of course, have in my pocket. They declared me the winner! Take that Al Gore!
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
What have I done? :::commits seppaku:::
- tehKenny
I'm sorry sir, you are going to have to exit the thread now...Sir? SIR!!!
- Morgan
A copy of the home game "Pointless FriendFeed Thread tehKenny just made up!"
- tehKenny
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz... <- last comment sorted alphabetically. I win!
- ·[▪_▪]·
I called "last" all the way back at the start, y'all. Keep going all you like. Because, if you take it literally "The LAST comment in this thread wins". My comment was "Last".
- Nine
Matt: May you live in interesting times. :)
- Roberto Bonini
Bahhhh! Worth a try I guess. Reminds me of when school kids used to say "Twats Say What" really quick, of course... you could do nothing but say What?! ;)
- Matt Frog
Why do like dollar costs averageing, Alex?
- Roberto Bonini
It's a good way to minimize risk buying in to a down market or selling in to an up market. Since you never know where the bottom or top is.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
ARE YOU READY FOR THIS? I googled "Who will win this thread" - Lo and behold an automotive forum thread was started March 2, 2006, has 3 comments just today (Feb 9, 2009), and has 975 comment pages totaling over ==> 14,600 COMMENTS <=== (and counting) http://forums.motortrend.com/70...
- Micah
Let's get this party started for real this time. American Football, Baseball, AND Basketball are all complete rubbish. You may create your mosh pit now
- Matt Frog
Ok folks! That's it! Drink up and get out! You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here! Everybody out! Thanks for coming! See you tomorrow. Don't worry, I'll lock up....
- Morgan
Hrm...it's possible this thread will never die
- Rah-PM 2012
i went away for a while, has anyone won yet ?
- Simon Wicks
tehKenny “The last comment in this t*h*read wins. GO!” 4 hours ago - Comment - Like - Hide - More Josh Haley, ·[▪_▪]·, Haggis (Sean), Rahsheen ™, AJ Batac, Steven Perez, Alex Scoble, Far, andy brudtkuhl, Ontario Emperor, Ethan Baker, LouCypher, Kol Tregaskes, VC Freak, Alfredo, Simon Wicks, Just Katie, Ben Jackson, Morton Fox and Morgan Haley liked this
- Johnny
im watching xmen, what are you doing?
- Simon Wicks
I admire the sticktoittiveness that you are all showing... but i must warn you...i have no life and winning this is the only thing I got keeping hope alive....come on man, please! just please let me have this one tiny little victory....please!!!
- Morgan
i know...it's almost sad now...the pathetic little attempts to post *anything!* sheesh...
- Morgan
*runs after Morgan to give worldly advice in a Morgan Freeman voice
- Matt Frog
*sits down to listen to the advice offered by Matt "Morgan Freeman voice" Harwood
- Morgan
Oh my God. My Internet went down. Came back up.... AND THE TREAD IS STILL ON!
- tehKenny
Well now, I remember when I was a boy, and I came to a crossroad in my life, similar to you. You see Morgan, there's no greater destiny, no greater accomplishment in life, than writing the last comment. Now my thread, my thread died. But yours, yours will succeed. Now fetch me a sandwich.
- Matt Frog
*Rises up with a renewed sense of purpose. Fetches a sandwich for Mr. Freeman. Realizes that there can be only one. One final comment. One victor. **begin training montage to 'Jukebox Hero' by Foreigner...**
- Morgan
What do I win? I don't want to participate till I read all the terms and conditions (no purchase necessary, void where prohibited except on Tuesdays and Thursdays, etc..).
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Throw out your hands. Stick out your tush. Hands on your hips. Give 'em a push. You'll be surprised, you're doing the French mistake....Voila!
- .LAG liked that
i hear jerusalem bells a' ringing, roman cavalry choirs a' singing...
- .LAG liked that
*THIS THREAD HAS BEEN LOCKED/UNDER MODERATION.* Please "Hide"
- Andrew Smith
Josh with his "Rush Rules", and then -crickets- for 45 minutes. I was staring at it and simple couldn't comment further. It had its own force shield.
- Micah
Sir, Yes Sir! No problem! Will HIDE immediately.
- Rah-PM 2012
@tehKenny/scobleizer I'm afraid you spawned a FriendFeed -inside- a single thread. That's right, a "µFF" service. For better or for worse (*danger* ...http://www.fborfw.com/strip_f... )
- Micah
Yo dawg, I heard you like to Friendfeed, so I put a Friendfeed in your Friendfeed so you can Friendfeed while you Friendfeed.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Zero-sum or infinity-sum? You decide. As long as Tyson has time to burn, we all win by virtue of his "likes".
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
One day, the world will click on the link to open the rest of the comments, while pleading "Save us!", and FriendFeed will simply answer "No."
- Josh Haley
I only have 425 comments! Look like blocking changes out what numbers you see.
- Anika
@Josh while black ink spreads across the FF logo.
- vijay
This challenge is like a puffer train in the game of Life (as in cellular automata). It is structured to go on forever. Does FF have the server capacity to handle an infinite thread?
- Tim Ostler
Somewhere soon a database table is going to cry.
- David Bisset (sn)
This thread is still going???????? I think they do, but don't blame me for a buffer overflow.
- Roberto Bonini
This is the thread that never ends. It just goes on and on my friend. Some people started writing it not knowing what it was, and they'll continue writing it forever just because this is the thread that never ends...
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
I'm sorry, but as the king of England I do not recognize this victory.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
When I frickin' FELT like it, Simon. :P :)
- tehKenny
“The following thread will go on. But just so you know Anika won.” ~ BLASPHEMY
- Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
tehKenny has had his power to determine the winner of this thread stripped by the authority vested in the friendfeedosphere. Sorry man, but it's the last person who comments on this thread, ever. Not who you determine is the winner.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
It is now 11:22 AM PST. If no one comments on this thread by 11:30 AM PST (you have 8 minutes) I declare myself the winner of this thread.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
It is now 11:31 AM PST. You did not post anything. I did. So I win. Thanks for playing. This contest is now over!
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Considering that I'm the last person to comment in this thread for over 24 hours, I hereby, once again, declare myself the winner.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
But by doing so of course, you have re-ignited the contest. Catch-22.
- Tinfoil 2.0
oops, just BUMPed into this thread. I cant believe this is still floating around
- Threepwood
shouldn't feed this. this is madness. I think you set a record, tehKenny. I'm probably the 50th person to say so... a bit scared to open & see, but I will..... ok, no, amended per what Micah said. 14,600????? good luck touching that one. you set an FF record though, for sure
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
Should I be worried that 9 times out of 10 when I comment on a FF thread, there are no further comments? Am I that offensive? Or am I just that late to the party? :-)
There are no further comments bacause your comment was so perfect no one could bear to top it.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
We are the thread killers. Kill 1k more, and we'll let you in the room =D
- FFing Enigma
Do you ever use the word dookie in your posts?
- Oldengrey (Jay)
I notice the same phenomenon when I join a queue, 20 km long and no one seems to come behind me, obviously I was born to be last and I suspect this is the end of this thread.
- M F
Joey, please comment so we can close this one out. ;-)
- Sprague D
No biggie, go with m9m's theory and don't judge on comments or likes, you did your part throwing it out there. Everyone else can do with it as they wish. Additionally if a girl dumps you assume she is a lesbian.
- SteVe C
Alex, send the bill to my accountant at the end of the month! ;-) I hope I do not declare Social Media bankruptcy by that time. LOL
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
I just created a Thread Killa' t-shirt for all of us on Zazzle but I don't feel like creating a marketplace or whatever the hell it is to show it to everyone - just close your eyes and picture a shirt that says Thread Killa' in an edgy font
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
@Alex, I've liked "stabbity" since the other day when Tad used/coined it. :-)
- Joey Gibson
Not in this lifetime, Brian. :) I wonder what thread in friendfeed has had the most comments...I'm sensing that this one will beat it
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
yea so how does this work when the thread is stacked with people who all claim to kill threads with their comments? this has the potential to become the longest running thread in history
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
OHHHHH my bad - glad you pointed that out because the photo or website accompanying my next guess would have been much weirder
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
I know some FriendFeeders who comments and the thread stops. But I don't think it's you or them.
- AJ Batac :)
@Alex, thanks. I never expected this many comments. @Marco, maybe this thread can serve as an example of FF's superiority over Twitter for generations to come. ;-)
- Joey Gibson
@Chris, delete the thread? Are you kidding? This thread is my ticket to becoming an FF GOD!!! I fully expect an invitation to next week's FFUndercats because of it (and my)) awesomeness. ;-)
- Joey Gibson
@Chris, No way, baby. Because of this thread, I'm Da Man, Dawg.
- Joey Gibson
I've never been a very good negotiator. OK, let's try this again. How much you wanna pay me?
- Joey Gibson
u know it just occurred to me that we are looking at this all wrong - the glass half full approach would lead us to believe that many of our comments are crafted so beautifully that no one else could add anything else no matter how badly they wanted
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Obviously Chris, dollar cost averaging has worked better for you than for me. :) No, Mark, I haven't seen any Mom n' Pops out here.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Low blow, Brian, bringing up a burger that I cannot have in this area.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
EVERYTIME I have commented EVER the thread has stopped dead. This could be the first when it hasnt! (It would not be funny if you now all agreed to stop posting)
- laprensa66
Actually, I have just checked that. Not quite accurate, but it was certainly like that at the beginning.
- laprensa66
Wouldn't it be nice if FF timestamped each comment in a thread? Then I could see how long ago Carmen welcomed Kol to the party.
- Joey Gibson
Joey, hover your cursor over each quote bubble. Tells you how long ago each comment was.
- Carmen wBabby
Thanks Mohomed and Carmen. I did not know that. Now, it would also be nice if FF put the Comment and Like links at both the top AND bottom of long threads...
- Joey Gibson
It will probably be the thread that never ends. Or has that been said 10 times already?
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
Oh, my, god. 269 more comments??? How on earth did this happen?? I guess you guys are trying to break the record... Do the search by # of comments and you'll see if you've won.
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
What does it say about the person that comments last? Are they the true comment thread killer? (Now I'm nervous it might be me....that would be an interesting plot twist. You never expect that you're the killer)
- George Smith
In this thread? It probably says they are suffering from severe OCD.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
No - it was the dramatic pause like in horror movies. Everyone thinks it's dead and relax for a moment, only to have the killer come back to life....
- George Smith
Alex, stop Spamming Friend Feed! UR Fixated with this thread! LMAO
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
I used to read Tom Clancy until he stopped spell/grammar checking his works. Now he's just weaksauce. And Igor...NO!
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
What's the FF record for longest comment thread ever???
- Roberto Bonini
Anyone interested in placing bets on a number of comments this thread gets? There is always a way to hijack the thread and kill it! LMAO
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Joey, we just want to make sure you do not feel lonely anymore. Next time someone does not comment after you, just remember this thread! LOL
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Is there a limit to the number of comments on one FF entry?
- Morton Fox
LOL um...the same thing happens to me all the time. Kinda makes it less likely that I'll comment on something for fear of killing the conversation...
- Phoenix
I can't believe this is still going on!
- Michelle M
Maybe you just said all that needs to be said. Summed it up in one post.
- Paula W
363+ posts and I still don't know the answer to the original post! :) Ps: hate to be the party spoiler, but, how much CO2 has these comments produced?
- Rui Pereira
from fftogo
More like how much methane has been produced as a result of this thread.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
And I've officially killed this thread, once again. Yay me!
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I just finished watching two episodes of House MD back-to-back.
- imabonehead
It's obvious which of us friendfeeders are either a) competitive, b) OCD or c) just plain crazy.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I've killed it once more! Let's hope I remembered to use the right implement this time. Can't remember if it requires A) a wooden stake through the heart B) a silver bullet C) sunlight D) cutting off the head E) dropping in to a pool of molten metal or F) all of the above.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
This isn't even the most commented thread in the last 30 days yet according to ffholic...My brother's post on how to get followers in Twitter and friendfeed is #1...we still have 20 comments to go. And yes, I'm only counting English posts, since I don't speak another language...interesting that we only have visibility in to last 30 days. We have no idea what the most commented entry EVER is.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I don't think you'd like him, Chris. He doesn't believe in dollar cost averaging.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Yeah, I used to get that stuff from Costco and it was pretty good. That's lame that they changed it. Wonder why.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I have a complete lack of fruit trees in my yard. Just trees that dump leaves everywhere.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I don't rake the leaves. I prefer to leave them so that they create a nice mulch.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
LOL, Jason. If you did that in my yard you would come back in 10 years to leaves piled 30 feet high on top of 20 feet of fresh dirt.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Yeah, I feel you Chris, but you still aren't going to be last on this thread.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I can't even remember the last time I had a shamrock shake.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Woo this is now the most commented English thread of the last 30 days.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Somebody will have to keep it going. I'm about ready to eat dinner and watch the rest of season 3 of the office (and maybe start season 4) so don't let me down!
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
Yeah, it still wouldn't count, because although I wouldn't see the comments they'd still be there. Chris is definitely an evil, evil man. :)
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Yeah, this thread fizzled compared to the other one. I guess it was the competitive nature of the other one vs this one which has already proved the initial premise wrong.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
No, you can't kill this thread either. Brian is just too sneaky.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
It is now 11:22 AM PST. If no one comments on this thread by 11:30 AM PST (you have 8 minutes) I declare myself the winner of this thread.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
It is now 11:31 AM PST. You did not post anything. I did. So I win. Thanks for playing. This contest is now over!
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Only way to end it is for the thread to be deleted
- Josh Haley
Do what? I can't delete someone else's thread
- Josh Haley
Go home...I won. You guys didn't comment for like 30 minutes.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I instituted it and declared myself the winner. This junta has now been completed. You are on foreign soil ruled by me...so bugger off!
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I really would like the new Custom RSS/Atom to work. It doesn't. I tick the "Include entry description as a comment" check box, and it doesn't. I get titles only, just like with ordinary blog feeds. http://friendfeed.com/pebbe...
- ˈpɛbə
Peter: I wonder if it's because you're using Atom and using the <content> tag for content. I believe it picks up the RSS tag <description>. This page (http://www.scriptol.com/rss...) seems to indicate the Atom equivalent of <description> is <summary>, but I wonder if FriendFeed's implementation only recognizes <description>.
- Mark Trapp
Isn't at least part of the value in the aggregation?
- Christian Anderson
Isn't that annoying? "Oh, I have all Twitters turned off." And some of them even import their Twitters in here. Idiots. Bonus is that those people tend to be obnoxious, so if they're filtering by *only* responding to FF stuff, then that leaves the rest of us to have conversations without their input, and that's fine with me.
- Anika
I don't really notice (or care) where it comes from. Content is king. Can you give examples of this happening? What users in particular? If you are talking about not replying or liking things generated by Twitter, that is because most of us hide all Tweets.
- Johnny
Sure, for the individual to aggregate their own stuff, but it doesn't help anyone else to see 100s of @<name> posts from Twitter on friendfeed. They have no context associated with them, thus rarely can promote conversations so have no value for most of us.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I'm not a super user, but I comment and like on any service. I try hard not to hide people's services (not even Twitter like a lot of people do - I use FF as my primary Twitter app), and only do it in cases where the volume is very high and my interest is low.
- Tinfoil 2.0
Alex, Twitter posts have no context on Twitter. It's no different here. I Like and Comment on people's random tweets all the time.
- Tinfoil 2.0
I was about to reply "no," but looking down my front page feed, only two posts from non-FF sources have any likes or replies. All of the other posts where people have been actively engaging have originated on FF.
- Jennifer Dittrich
Johnny: I think you gave example of it happening. You hide Tweets. That's at least in part what i'm talking about. By the super users doing that consciously -- like you do -- or unconsciously like Jennifer does. Aren't you doing friendfeed a disservice?
- Christian Anderson
The original post is always (relatively) contextless, though. That's why I exclusively post through Twitter. (That, and the fact that FF-centric apps are non-existent on Palm OS) If you don't want to see my content, that's fine by me.
- Victor Ganata
Alex: I agree that there are a large number of @replies have no context, but a large proportion of tweets (betting a plurality) have just as much context as a friendfeed post so that argument is a little tough to buy.
- Christian Anderson
Sorry, Christian, but if someone mostly posts @replies then I hide that stuff unless it gets comments or likes. Otherwise my main feed gets too noisy. I wish I could only filter out @replies, but friendfeed doesn't have that feature yet.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Alex: are you saying you only filter out people's Twitter streams that have lots of @replies or are you saying you filter out all tweets in an effort to "slowly kill other services"?
- Christian Anderson
Christian, do you have a problem with FriendFeeders auto-posting their stuff to Twitter?
- Johnny
the only service I hide entirely is brightkite. The rest I hide on an item by item or user by user basis.
- Thomas Hawk
I tend to only filter out people's Twitter streams if they have lots of @replies. I do it to decrease noise. Would be fine with me though, if Twitter went poof tomorrow. :)
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I'm not a fan of FF tweeting likes. That's probably just as annoying as @replies.
- Victor Ganata
What Thomas said, although the other day I liked a Britekite entry because it was a restaurant and the poster included a pic of their meal. What I hate is the Wakoopa? Or whatever that service is that posts when people use Microsoft Office, apparently.
- Derrick
I filter out a number of services totally -- including twitter and brightkite -- my experience is that they include content that for me is just noise (this has nothing to do with FF -- I find twitter noise in general). As always though this is a YMMV situation. The beauty of FF is that you can adjust it to your definition of noise and noise tolerance level.
- Brian Sullivan
BTW... If you think that 'super users' are they only ones that can 'get conversations' going on here, you're missing the power that is avaiable here. There is a whole other world that exists outside your current 'selected' FF stream. Unlike Twitter, FF can exist on many different layers and flavours. Try a different scoop now and then.
- Johnny
Johnny: i like people auto-posting stuff from friendfeed to twitter -- likes included. If someone saw something interesting and flags it, i'm interested in seeing what that is.
- Christian Anderson
Johnny: not disagreeing with you. I used to like to post something on Twitter and then engage in conversations around those items on ff. One of the huge powers of ff is the discovery, which is why it is interesting to me that so many are filtering out a huge source of interesting content.
- Christian Anderson
In regards to Twitter, you can understand our frustrations. 10 'I just scratched my ass' tweats for every good one is just too high a ratio for me. That's the ratio I see, and I take responsibility for that. I said this last night on a Scoble thread. Twitter is a Post-It-Note, FriendFeed is the inter-office memo envelope. You may pass me something really important on a little sticky yellow piece of paper, but I'm more likely to read the memo and collaborate, a memo that others think I would be intrested in.
- Johnny
I like my friendfeed is a Ferrari and Twitter is a unicycle comparison better, Johnny. :)
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
The thing is, you're not following services. You're following people. I have serious doubts that someone who twitters "I'm scratching my ass" on a regular basis is simultaneously posting the utmost of profundity directly onto Friendfeed.
- Victor Ganata
Victor, you presume that everyone uses all these services the same. I have seen it happen. I filter out a lot of Last.fm, not cuase I don't like the service but cuase the flood of songs, while relevant to the person listening, means little to me in the large scale of things. Plus, where is the context? I wouldn't mind getting @replies if I knew what the bloody hell they're on about. And...
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- Johnny
Johnny, I agree, everyone uses FF the way they see fit, I do find floods of automated posts from services that don't add a lot of content irritating, but I see Christian's point, in that people might miss out on a lot of content that could very well be interesting, but you can't read everything going through here anyway.
- Victor Ganata
Johnny: you should use the service however you want -- within the TOS :) When the group decides to effectively filter out twitter or any other service with millions of users, that contributes to the death of ff because it slows growth. *The assumption being that if a service isn't growing, it's dying. **Disregard for the sake of argument that ff is growing very rapidly.
- Christian Anderson
When a Twitter user decides to try ff and starts feeding tweets into ff and she sees smart and engaging people like you and others commenting on and liking her tweets, she'll be more likely to come back to ff and even comment and like other people's stuff then poof, new ff user. When you block her stuff, she doesn't see value. she doesn't come back.
- Christian Anderson
Twitter is in many ways a ff gateway drug. By blocking tweeters, ff users are minimizing the the impact of that drug and slowing the growth of ff
- Christian Anderson
That assumes that the success of FriendFeed hinges on Twitter, which I don't think is 100% true. And to take Victor's point regarding missing something. Twitter rarely creates, it shares. And the thing about sharing is a lot of people do it many times. I will see it eventually, it may not nessecarliy trace back to the original Twitter poster, but I will see the content. If the issue is...
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- Johnny
"Twitter is in many ways a ff gateway drug". So if Pot (Twitter) is a gateway drug to Crack (FF), once taking crack, if I don't still smoke pot I am someway slowing the rate at which other people get are addicted? (Not a gateway debate-starter here, just an analogy folks)
- Johnny
If someone gives you the choice between a free Ferrari and a free unicycle and you choose the unicycle, you are seriously whacked.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Yesterday, in my own feed, I found out in an interesting way, that most people on FF respond to FF posted stuff only. I on the other hand, don't care where you content comes from if I find it interesting (even coming from Twitter) I may follow the @s to see what the convo was about.
- Lynne d Johnson
Johnny: in that analogy, you are cutting off the pot so no one can smoke it.
- Christian Anderson
No, I don't think so. Why would that kill Friendfeed??
- Meryn Stol
Alex, but it's not an either/or choice. If I can have both the Ferrari and the unicycle, I'm not necessarily going to throw away the unicycle.
- Victor Ganata
I'm hardly ever twitter now, so all my "I'm scratching my ass" posts are directly to FF. On the other hand, I'm still not hiding all tweets, which reflects on my stats. Most of my likes are comments are on tweets. Overall, I'm hoping my likes & comments on tweets will move those people to use FF more.
- Rodfather
While I'm certainly no super user, I tend to view FF posts as first class citizens and tend to gloss over the rest... unless there are FF comments.
- Ted Roden
Johnny, I agree that FF doesn't really need Twitter, and that if something is interesting enough, it'll make its way to FF eventually. But a lot of FF users talk about the FF community as being one of FF's strengths (although I realize not everyone cares about that) and some feel that growing that community is what keeps FF alive. And I feel that responding to tweets is a good way to entice Twitterers to use FF. It certainly enticed me.
- Victor Ganata
Alex, I do realize that clown shoes are not for everyone :)
- Victor Ganata
Not entirely true. Anything with pics gets attention as can be expected. Now even tweets with a tinyurl or twitpic get comments 'cause of FF autodetecting and showing thumbnails.
- vijay
True, Victor, but no self respecting unicycle rider does so without clown shoes. ;)
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I mean, I don't think ignoring Twitter (or any of the other services) is *actively* killing FF, but if you're a crack dealer, don't you want the potheads to hang out with the crackheads, even if you don't sell pot anymore?
- Victor Ganata
I think piping FF items into Twitter grows the FF community more than responding to Twitter items.
- Rah-PM 2012
Agree Rasheen the piping ff into Twitter is helpful, but ignoring people who tweet first and ff second is detrimental to ff
- Christian Anderson
Christian, I noticed that let your comments here go out on twitter. I used to do it, but I felt it added to much noise on twitter. Also, some people wouldn't understand what my tweets were in reference to originally. I find the services work well together for some things. There's content I share here that doesn't seem relevant on twitter.On the flip side everything on twitter is relevant here. Lately, I find myself using twitter less frequently. Are superusers killing ff?, I don't think so.
- Michael Fidler
Michael: I just started piping comments from ff to Twitter today. Don't think it works. I think 'likes' translate better.
- Christian Anderson
When ff users disregard tweets simply because they originate from Twitter, they are cutting off their nose to spite their face. Twitter has a huge number of smart people posting interesting things. They'd like to engage in conversations here. It's a shame so many of us are turning up our nose at that.
- Christian Anderson
I view all tweets - except for the big name guy who tweets about his bulldogs. You're right Christian - there's plenty of good stuff shared in tweets.
- Hutch Carpenter
Christian... Again, you are saying that a major part of FriendFeed is twitter content, and I'm sorry, it's just not the case. I agree there is some good stuff on Twitter, but the piles of crap I have to wade through to get to it makes it frustrating and time wasting. I will eventually see those things, but life without Twitter is ok. I am not missing out. 99.9999% of the world population aren't on Twitter and they are ok. Chill. Again, from my first comment. Content is king...
- Johnny
If an RSS feed from a blog shoveled half the crap down that Twitter does, this wouldn't be an issue. Because people are now emotionally tied into the service, suddenly it's an issue? FriendFeed is a content aggregation and community space. It is greater than the sum of it's parts. And twitter is still just a part...
- Johnny
I don't care where it comes from if it is interesting. I don't pay attention to the little icon on the left of a post, most of the time.
- April
What April said. Although I *do* hide un-commented twitters.
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
I don't even see a reason to hide them, since if they have no comments they will just get pushed down and off my screen permanently. I save hide for those things that I don't want to see that keep coming back over & over.
- April
Interesting. Beta.friendfeed.com does not show where a post originated from. Think they wanted cleaner design, or was it in response to this thread?
- Christian Anderson
Where's the guy (with a hat) in the left pic? I don't see him in the two other ones :/
- directeur
I personally think it's sad when girls and young women use their tits to get noticed in order to prop up their poor self esteem. "Look! I'm a sexual object!" Okay, you and a b'zillion others, Sweetie. But if you think that's going to bring you happiness in this short life, you're going to be tragically disappointed.
- Dawn
Öte tarafta döndüydü muhabbeti, bidaha bidaha niye yolluyoruz :-)
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
directeur: who cares dude? please :)
- Levent Yalçın
Levent, I do! I'm sure there's a trick or something... Duh! that's too (bo)obvious!! :p
- directeur
Ok, ok. We know you love only Begüm :)
- Levent Yalçın
:) No, I like her a lot, not love her, but she's way way beautiful and prettier than this Megan what? (ah yes, Fox)
- directeur
Yeah, I'm completely ambivalent about this woman but I'm not horrified that this thread keeps hanging about my front page.
- Akiva
So what's with all the Meagan Fox pics in a low cut shirt? You guys are such...what's the word I'm looking for...Oh yeah BOOBS <;o
- The Real sofarsoShawn
I could have used this a few times when I was working at the G!;-)
- John Piscitello
this is awesome ... at this point everyone should be using gmail!
- Jay
@Paul Thanks for your original blog post on undo -- It came at a time I was trying to convince some that a 5 second delay would bring way more value than it would harm. It was nice to be able to say, "Well, Paul thinks so."
- Michael Leggett
i just used this for the first time a little bit ago. it was awesome!
- Dustin
It's very cool. I just used undo on a message I sent in 2002 and now I have my old job back. Thanks gmail! :-)
- Kelly Norton
Yeah, sorry, but none of that is worse that spaghetti and Pepto Bismol.
- FFing Enigma
My old Indian grandmother made up some concotion for upset stomachs for me to drink once. I downed it, and threw up 10 seconds later. I yelled why she gave me that if all it did was make me throw up. She replied to me in Hindi, "Well, you don't have to throw up anymore, now, do you?"
- Mike Nayyar
Tina wins, pepto and tomato sauce is puke art. Pepto and coconut cream pie is actually somewhat pretty, I know this.
- Janet-The Bottley Crue
It's not just the visuals, Janet. Let's just say spaghetti doesn't always come up in the same places it went down *shudder*
- FFing Enigma
Chicken soup FAIL. Dude, what's up with that? Hope you're feeling better in time for the show. :(
- Josh Haley
Vomiting Mac & Cheese is actually worse. The burn is 10x worse than Coke's. Trust.
- Anika
I have to agree with you there. Although, one time peanut butter was involved and I didn't eat peanut butter for years afterwards. I don't really wanna talk about it.
- Bill
from twhirl
LOL @Tina...some with the Mac & Cheese. Do I need that coming out my nose? Nope.
- Anika
Damn, I knew I'd recently seen discussion of Mac & Cheese coming out of someone's nose... just got to experience it myself for the first time last night. >.<
- Penguin
I was just thinking about the contest I held earlier this week. Only about 1,500 comments came in, while I have 30,000+ followers on friendfeed and 70,000+ on Twitter. Why such low numbers of participants? What do you think about these low rates of engagement?
Stale followers? People who join sites like Twitter, FF, and other socnets and then drop off in usage, yet remain subscribed to you? Would be neat to be able to sort your follower list by last posted date and then trim off the inactive users.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Scoble you're just another billboard on the freeway.
- rob friedman
Well...I only happened to catch the contest due to the live streaming FF sidebar. If not for that, and seeing lots of people comment about it, I might have missed it altogether! lol
- Carlton Hackett
I think most people don't hang out here all the time, and it just gets lost in the noise.
- Christian Burns
Sounds about right to me, if you read the studies on engagement. 80% lurk. Also, after reading through about half the comments on that thread, part of me felt guilty about leaving one myself. I wanted to start handing out my own money to people in need.
- Karoli
What was the entry mode? Was it 'x words or less'? That can knock down the numbers sometimes.
- TechStyles.com.au
Also, it probably flew by on Twitter...and retweets get annoying enough that folks ignore them, too. That comment strand was so long it crashed my phone every time I'd try to load the page.
- Karoli
What! $5.500! too bad I was working :S
- americanm
everyone is marketing and no one is "following" and Twitter is peaking and getting filled with crap and crap users. When freakin David Gregory is giggling like a schoolgirl (this morning) on the Today show..."I'm twittering! It's so addictive!" the floodgates have opened and the game has changed.
- Steve Averill
i follow you on both twitter and friendfeed, but i didn't comment about the contest.
- Varun Shenoy
It's the lurk factor. Very few of those followers will be reading you on a regular basis, they're likely to just catch up everynow and then. A 5% participation from your FF followers is actually pretty good.
- Rachel Clarke
I can't remember the last time I had an engaging conversation on twitter. Here on FF is a lot different (and more interesting). I get crickets when I post over on Twitter these days.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
May be not everyone has such a good reason for the USD1400.00 as I do. As they think you will award me with the money so they just plain given up participating.
- Vinko
Actually with the new FF notifier I seem to engage in more discusions
- americanm
who won? and btw, that's 1,499 more comments than i've gotten this week ;-)
- Andy Sternberg
You gave it worthy people. Obama is going to give me a check for $8000 next year because we just bought a house.
- Christian Burns
Andy: the winners were announced here: http://friendfeed.com/e... -- by the way, if you won and I haven't heard from you yet, send me email to scobleizer@gmail.com -- I'm taking care of that stuff next week.
- Robert Scoble
I saw it, read it and thought it was great. The sheer numbers of comments was a disincentive to add further comments - why repeat what has already been said many times already?
- WoH: Minding her Steves
I almost didn't participate. I thought the chances of winning would be too low as you have a lot of followers and so would get tens of thousands of comments. I ended up doing it as you never know when luck may favor you but the fact that there were only 3 (i think) prizes to be won amongst so many potential contestants may have put off a lot of people from trying.
- kunal jain
WorldofHiglet: because I gave away $1000 to just a random person chosen from the comments.
- Robert Scoble
Seems an easy enough entry mode - perhaps the casual nature of the competition made it seem 'less authentic'? Other than that, would you classify the reaction as your regular level of engagement via this channel?
- TechStyles.com.au
kunal: why do so many play the lottery or go to casinos then? ;-)
- Robert Scoble
Yes, but the chances of it being me were v small, and why would I deserve it more than others?
- WoH: Minding her Steves
I'm tryin to Give away $100,000/Year for 4 EZ $20 Sales + Folks seem to be asleep at the switch!! Good News is we're Bumping dat UP to $500,000/month on just 2 EZ $20 Sales!! ;))
- Billy Warhol
GadgetGuy: it's the #2 most commented on post ever here on friendfeed, so for friendfeed it was actually pretty cool. I just wonder about how many people are actually using these services vs. just registered.
- Robert Scoble
Robert. if the contest had some kind of polling, some kind of question, something more than just leave a comment for the sake of winning, I would have participated.
- Kiran Patchigolla
I couldn't take money from you. If the contest was by a faceless corporation, then maybe.
- Morton Fox
Well, I definitely want to participate in your next contest. Hope I catch it.
- Ted Beam
@Robert Scoble - I should have paid attention... saw your link and removed my unnecessary now question
- Pavel Senko
And yes, I realised it was random but I was vaguely discomforted by the idea of getting money for nothing from a man who friended me over the Internet.
- WoH: Minding her Steves
Sounds about right - I did a poll today on twitter that just said: Reply if you see this - got 4 out of 730. thats .5%. You had a contest which likely got RT to a larger group but still had 2%. I think 1% would be a fair assessment of the penetration of any given random tweet. If that 1% RT it, it can climb. Do you read even 1% of the traffic on your timeline?I don't think I do. I can't read 1% of the stuff in google reader anymore. I barely read 1% of my email (thanks to spam and other filters).
- Ben Shoemate
Robert, I think that part of the problem is that twitter and friendfeed end up fragmenting people attention so you get larger numbers but the connection is much thinner. As a reader I really miss the Robert Scoble with the long posts. I like how Fred Wilson has incrementally evolved his blog into something like blog+forum...that seems to be the best of both world and help really create a great sense of community. Same thing with Seth Godin (although he is more of a one way street). Good luck with Building43
- Edwin Khodabakchian
I don't do lottery but wish I did because it's only a $1 to dream. With your competition I didn't realise for ages that I had to comment to be eligible somehow. (I know that sounds .. err.. dumb) and then it had the feel of a marketing survey or something. What was I letting myself in for ? Finally it clicked. Oh ! I see and then I happily commented and checked on tuesday's results to see if had won. Nice selection of winners I thought !
- Julian Edward
This whole thing demonstrates how hard it is to get people to comment or like or take action.
- Robert Scoble
how about doing a contest where you randomly choose a person who "liked" something of your's?
- rob friedman
from IM
Karoli's on to it re. the demographic that was aware but didn't jump in. I think there was a feeling of incongruance between the "DSLR camera upgrade" and "purely altruistic cause" all jumbling together (of course there were mixed bag ones like mine too). This issue doesn't come into play in most traditional contests/raffles b/c they are depersonalized in nature.
- Micah
I missed it. Must not have been online at the time. :-(
- ursi
I just saw this post by pure chance. But with so many people participating, its enough to only catch 1% - you still get a pretty diverse group.
- Ben Shoemate
disagree with whoever suggested less of a connection. I've gotten more attention on Twitter and FF from Scoble than I ever got leaving a comment on his blog...and by the way, Robert...I'm offering to serve as your personal tweet valet for any upcoming conferences you might be attending...especially in the Bay Area...hmmmm?
- Karoli
I think there's something in that Robert, plus I of all these 'socnet' things, FriendFeed can seem a little Byzantine. Wonder how it would compare putting the same thing on just your blog/website?
- TechStyles.com.au
I follow you on twitter and ff, saw the comp, just didn't enter. Maybe as I get to know you better I'll be more open to taking your free cash.
- Justin
GadgetGuy: I would get far fewer comments if I tried this on my blog. It's too hard to comment on a blog anymore when compared to friendfeed.
- Robert Scoble
People comment only when the topic is relevant to them. But even if a person finds a topic relevant, he may not comment. There can be multiple reasons. May be he doesn't want to associate himself to the topic or do not like to reveal his identity
- John Samuel
About 5 months ago we have been giving away $10,000 every week to individual who submitted best post to our site. We've also spent a lot to advrtise - you would be surprised to know the ratio... people, basically were thinking it's a scam.
- Pavel Senko
People may think to not bother because they think they may not win anything
- Outsanity
Robert: Have iPhone, will travel. Trying to get to the Web 2.0 Expo...trying to sweet-talk Rob into letting me be your personal Tweeter. :)
- Karoli
Fewer comments - yes, definitely. But I'm suggesting if was dressed up as a 'normal' website competition that people would perhaps be more amenable to entry.
- TechStyles.com.au
too much info going by too fast maybe? Hard to keep up. Another issue is so many ppl that have done these contests get a bunch of spam after they tend to avoid them. Mine was the first case as during the day (when you probably sent the first word about it) I am sooo slammed at work i barely have 10 minutes at lunch to check out twitter and fb. I'm trying to do more but right now my time is late eves. I'll check it out now Robert. ...................ok, nm. I see it's over. I would have done for money
- Robb Lewis
I just had a larger response on Facebook to a question I posed than I did on Twitter and FriendFeed. I do think there is some fatigue setting in.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, but isn't your focus and entrepreneur/developer/author status re. Facebook make Facebook expectantly dominant for you?
- Micah
In your situation, you were giving away MONEY! Who wouldn't take 5 seconds to participate in it? My thoughts: a combination of too little time for people to participate (I know you had it open for a few days, but a whole week and constant RT's by you would have made a big difference), people knowing that the chances of winning were quite slim, and most importantly: why RT something if the chances of you winning would go down? You would make people comment on it and make the chances of you winning decrease!
- Michael Forian
Does that "90-9-1 UGC" ratio apply here? 90% read or lurk, 9% comment and participate, 1% (i.e. you) create?
- .LAG liked that
ya those metrics are stuck until ppl figure out how to use the information the best for them
- rob friedman
from IM
Jason, one could argue that Robert (or anyone in his scenario) changing his MO _only_ because the wind changes direction, that that would amount to a devalued Robert Scoble the public figure (value as it relates to his partners, financial supporters and to his friends/audience at large).
- Micah
... MO meaning: He experiments. Talks about the process. Shares what he learned. Iterates (and the latency has lowered over time, the impact of which is anyone's guess). Some conclusions are drawn from aggregating information in threads like the very one we're all reading and/or participating in here.
- Micah
I think the time frame was to small. If the contest lasted for a week I think the results would've been different.
- Andy Gongea
Micah: It's a rough economy and Robert was able to acquire a new employer. Good for him. Robert's new employer recruited him to promote their brand. Makes sense. They leveraged SXSW and the crowds for the announcement. That's smart. What value did the giveaway add? With FriendFeed as the mothership, Facebook and Twitter users around the world received: "You've won two free iPods!"
- Jason Nelson
Edwin: Just read through the comments on the post you linked. Two thoughts raced through at the same time: 1) only one commenter was a woman, yet there are many women qualified to comment on this topic; and 2) the discussion there seems to have engaged members of a long-standing community. What doesn't appear to happen? People joining the conversation or giving that post attention who are not already following Fred Wilson's blog. This is what Twitter/FF do. Also.. (cont)
- Karoli
Stale accounts. How many people hold memberships at a gym or tickets for symphony vs how many of those people actually work-out regularly or attend the concerts? BTW--did I win..? :-)
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Edwin, continued...Robert's observation that even with the high ratio of followers on FF and Twitter, the number actively participating was less raises the question of how to measure lurkers in an attention economy. The metric cannot simply be the number of comments, or number of clicks.
- Karoli
If 25% saw your post and 10% of that responded, it seems reasonable. ~ 100,000*(0.25)*(0.10) = 2,500
- Bruck Sewnet
What about self-selection? I knew about it, but didn't participate because a) I had little hope statistically of winning b) I found all the wheedling comments (Friendfeeding frenzy?) unedifying and didn't want to be part of them c) I knew there were many people who deserved to win much more than me anyway
- Tim Ostler
Robert: I saw you post when you just posted it but I choose not to enter the two sections for this reason: 1) The Random Choice: I am very hesitant to enter these things because of the stigmatism around greed and cash grabs. I'm all for free money, but the second I put my name on the list, I participated, in public (just my stigmatism). 2) The Reason: I am relatively secure with few pressures. I know of many more people more deserving than me who would use it to benefit others.
- Johnny
Your contest was great, but just not for me :D
- Johnny
@Karoli The point I was trying to raise is that both robert and fred are building communities. Fred does it with Blog+Disqus+Twitter, Robert does increasingly with Friendfeed + video + fewer blog posts. Each community have different scale, depth and engagement characteristics to them.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Jason: Value: 1) We're talking about it (70+ comments later). 2) He made a point about giving this particular chunk of $4500 away as a symbol of the personal enrichment he received in doing the video piece. 3) The winners or their beneficiaries were tangibly helped. 4) Like I said before,(technologically mediated) social experimentation that reasonably retained Scoble's own stamp on it. ~~~ I'm not a big fan of contests in general, but this had tie-ins to the world in which I am interested.
- Micah
Edwin, agreed...but the broadcast factor to the greater Friendfeed/Twitter community is a way to increase engagement. Then there is the mashup of a blog with a twitter posting/filter focus, like we've got on our Health crisis blog (ushealthcrisis.com) with the JustSignal tool, and what could also be done with the Friendfeed widget. Blog, Twitter, FF dialogues in one place...the possibilities boggle the mind.
- Karoli
Robert, Sometimes even free money is too expensive for some folk ... perhaps if you offered to pay them to take your money it may work! Seriously though, besides the likely 80% lurk factor, your experiment also illustrates that a lot of people are lazy (i.e. they "Follow the Path of Least Resistance" and move on with one more click) and just can't be bothered. The exception to this fact would be if you were to market to a more motivated audience, say in Nigeria! - no offense to Dare - who simply rocks!
- Alexander Ainslie
I saw the original announcement on friendfeed. I have had problems finding a way to work twitter and friendfeed back in my life and haven't for a while. Tweetdeck seems to be solving some of the problem. But the days where I had a constant stream running down a sidebar on googlechat are over. At that point twitter seemed like a vital force. I have a much smaller stream on Friendfeed but ignored it for a long time and just hung out on Facebook. I seem to be heading back to twitter and friendfeed now.
- Aidan Mann
Some of us didn't want to win and didn't participate. I saw it and let it go.
- Louis Gray
re:the filtering by recently active followers, TweepSearch.com mostly has all the pieces in place to do something like that, main problem for @dacort currently seems to be the server loads that come with staying on top of the massive indexing tasks (for a small outfit). In other news, 5% "conversion" (1,500 of 30,000) ain't half bad. IM "industry" average conversion assumption is ~1% (granted for paid-for items, not contests, but even entering costs time/attention).
- Alex Schleber
..If I were you Robert I'd introduce a bit more of a challenge element into it, people tend to love a (not too hard) challenge. Otherwise it may just be too blah...
- Alex Schleber
i think like because with blog feedburner counters, it does not mean eveyone is actually following you + there is a time shift thing. the sense of real time does not apply everywhere in the world
- Ouriel Ohayon
I am presuming you are referring to your giving away money competition. I didn't participate on principle. There are needy people out there who deserve it more than me.
- Parth Awasthi
Well, people are different... Some of us do not participate in contests of different reasons. We have different value systems despite of increasing globalization. One cannot draw any valid conclusions and categorize people on the basis of single experiment.
- Hanna Wiszniewska
Dear Robert. That low engagement is the reason I've deleted my twitter account. Massive growth, but engagement is at an all time low across the board. Summer's coming, and the recession is making sure people are more workaholic in nature.
- Richard A.
1. could be that many of your readers are from overseas (like me) and did not think we would be eligible... 2. not everyone reads every post in detail... some are just glimpsed over... (like i did for this post) 3. not all members are active followers... 4. not all members are active participants (even though they are active followers)
- simran
I don't claim to know how all the different disincentives factor in to the final engagement percentage, but I do have a guess as to why people shy away from the random chance. They can see the stack of comments. If the store had a stack of lottery tickets showing your chance of winning few would play.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
I don't play lotteries, and I also didn't feel this was aimed at me. I imagine many felt the same way. In addition, people are really NOT rollowing each other's every word on these services. "following" is a euphemism for checking in every now and then.
- Francine Hardaway
from twhirl
It was the #2 commented post? Which post got more comments than free money?
- DGentry
hi richard, "the taking it so personal" is what can make trouble in social network, we have just to keep in mind that it is a tool, no more and as a tool the engagement isn't required, the more people will see as a narssisic tool the more the tool will be useful.
- abdellah
That's why I gave up on twitter. If it's a tool then it's worthless.
- Richard A.
what "beyond a tool" is your twitter vision?
- abdellah
The more people think of websites as a tool the less will they are to spend hours on it. I thought of twitter as a lifestyle and it showed in the way I used it. After too many people used it as a tool it become unpersonal, hence worthless. Why expect an answer that will come 6hrs later for example.
- Richard A.
even blog are tools, every mechanism that human use to communicaye ideas is a tool, making it personal is just a way to express a hidden affection to that too with encapsulate the easiness of that tool in a other words the usability of the tool.
- abdellah
Of course they're tools, but the difference is that the experience from blogs and friendfeed is much richer. You get pictures, you get links, you get real depth to every single post. With twitter it's just 140 characters, very vague. As a result of it's vagueness you want to engage with people more, to understand
- Richard A.
@Robert because we overestimate "engagement". There is little engagement on Friendfeed or Twitter. They are mainly channels for publication and status messages. Engagement comes from the 1% that engages anywhere. That is why Jason Calacanis's post about the value of Twitter suggested users makes no sense to me. It is old-school eyeballs thinking. The value of having many followers is probably 1-1 comparable to traffic and display ads on the web.
- Alexander van Elsas
Most people are not as hyper-engaged. They sign up, drop off, maybe come back a month later, maybe not. Do crazy things like go out of town and not check in on the web while their gone, except for their myspace page. Plus some people are allergic to money.
- Thomas Hawk
I get offers for free money in my email box all the time and totally ignore at least half of those.
- Thomas Hawk
Matthew's point is critical --- the single biggest limitation of these powerful new channels (e.g. FF & Twitter) is the ephemeral nature of the post. The most inane along with the most salient both float away with equal speed on the tide of fresh fed content.
- Thom Kennon
@Brian: "Would be neat to be able to sort your follower list by last posted date and then trim off the inactive users." - I'm working on a service that does exactly that...
- Holger Eilhard
Say your giving away $100,000. If I were a betting man I'd say you'd get few more comments...
- Francois
I follow a lot of people and join a lot of social networking sites at someone's recommendation (like I heard about FriendFeed and I signed up), but I don't always go back and check regularly. Stuff like Twitter and I'm new to FriendFeed so I don't quite know how it works, but so much stuff comes in from all the followers, and I don't try to scroll down and page back to read everything. I guess this stuff would be more effective if you just used it among a few friends who you really care about.
- Auriette Lindsey
I'm probably not the only one conditioned to ignore posts like your contest thread. I scanned it in passing, but thought it was primarily intended for people who "deserved" the money. IIRC, there were half a dozen different threads from you about the contenst, when you were giving the money away, the fact that it was going to be live on ustream, the fact it was really Ciscos money... honestly it started to seem like spam to me.
- Ken Sheppardson
...It was also right after that guy with the Tesla and the two dogs who doesn't blog anymore (yeah, I know his name) was offering to give away money to Twitter and getting a bunch of free advertising from it, and maybe it was all just too closely related in my mind for some reason.
- Ken Sheppardson
Also, 1500 comments from 30,000 followers strikes me pretty consistent with a power law distribution (long tail) on participation, which seems to apply to just about everything online.
- Ken Sheppardson
Think I'm in with @cogarch. Just skimming existing comments made my head spin. And while I'm surely not wiping my a** with USDs, someone else needs that money more than I.
- Keith McCammon
my reason? you're a bit too prolific, Robert. I've had to start mentally filtering you out as noise (sometimes). no offense meant, not trying to pick a fight. :) I filter lots of people. I only follow 230 people on twitter and *2* on friendfeed. I'm too busy at work every day to keep up with even those numbers. Of course, with friendfeed's model, i get *plenty* of updates by just following Scoble.
- Rob Shields
from twhirl
oops. my last sentence was meant to say i get updates from Scobles friends, too, which is a great source of info. wasn't a final parting shot at Scoble's number of updates.
- Rob Shields
from twhirl
I think that is an amazing number of participants. That is over 1% of your total followers (there is a lot of crossover between your FF and twitter followers) and you are lucky to get 1% to be active in your communities. Most users are incredibly passive.
- Daniel Zarick
I'd guess that A LOT of users aren't 'every day' or even 'every week' and just missed it.
- Charlie Anzman
1% engagement, that's not so good, not when you consider the ease of interaction f the medium. It shows go for a small audience, but an active one. Go for the niche, it's no longer about broadcasting.
- Richard A.
followers, you know, are not a correct attention metric :D
- g.g.
You are just a person that doesn't want a lot of distractions, I get it, but why do you have to tell (Robert Scoble)? Why not just filter and keep it to yourself?? Just wondering.
- T.S. Elliott
@Robert, Jason's post and you starting this discussions give me the feeling that Friendfeed and Twitter do not provide more engagement, they provide eyeballs. That is very web 1.0 ;-) : http://vanelsas.wordpress.com/2009...
- Alexander van Elsas
The majority of people on these networks are passive users. It's like seeing a stat that you may only get comments from 2% of people for a blog... Lots of people like to read, very few like to interact.
- Michael
All $$ talk aside, this is great example of why #'s of followers in either service don't necessarily mean what most think it means. It also demonstrates the relative real-time factor of FF, in which followers would need to be using the service at the same time the post is made (+- a few days depending on the size of interactivity) or those other people never see it.
- Josh Haley
Statistically, your reach sounds okay. Perhaps you thought you'd have more comments because it was a contest - hmm - no, it wasn't really like a casino - I think if you had indicated that it would really be "random" and not only for the most "deserved" you'd have had more comments. It does take up more time to make up something to sound like I deserve something - not too many would gamble if the luck factor wasn't so strong there
- Maya
Because I didn't find it all that interesting? *grin* Nothing personal, Robert? I knew it was going on, but it was pretty gimmicky. I tend not to do gimmicky.
- Ken Kennedy
Knowing how large your following is, I'm reluctant to join the noise. (most of the time.)
- Michael Markman
WHO has time to be on here 24/7? I don't. Bread on the table before playtime. ;-) What was the contest??
- David Slater
from twhirl
David S. :-), that's why friendfeed is a million times better than twitter. Here you have pictures, video, long replies to read and more. Perfect :-).
- Richard A.
Richard A I still can't sit here all day waiting for the ULTIMATE QUESTION, ready with my answer of 42! ;-0 Wish I could make a living blogging, but I can't! Now if I had a 4K laser in my house, I could make some money!
- David Slater
from twhirl
Robert, actually that 1500+ is quite great result as many wouldn't get close to that amount of real replies to competitions without large amount of advertising/etc.
- Daniel Schildt
well, robert, was waiting for something @ ;)
- bob phillips
For me it was just time, i saw the post and then like 30 minutes later there were winners announced. Maybe a bigger delay between begining or end? Or maybe I just missed the post initially. Still great job.
- SteVe C
I didn't even see it for some reason.
- Hans Eisenman
so many possible reasons. a) no one cared. b) no one saw it. just because your follower count is X does not mean X people saw your update and actively decided against "engaging." start with the assumption that the vast majority of your network misses the vast majority of what you say
- @baratunde
from twhirl
Well maybe they follow you, but they don't trust you so much to engage in a contest with real money, even if they have nothing to do but commenting :)
- Napolux
from twhirl
Deb's comment is very telling - You have a fantastic management system for dealing with all the data. Most users on twitter don't.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Recently I helped start #iestories on Twitter. We managed to get it to catch on and it trended into the top 5 according to search.twitter.com Even though it was a humorous meme (humor FTW) and a technical topic to a relatively technical crowd, it took A LOT of work to get it to trend. I posted once every few minutes for a few hours with the hashtag. My conclusion is it takes that much fanning to get the flame to start.
- Paul Reynolds
The paradox is you blow out people's timelines that are cautious followers and accept you as a few people they follow. So getting something to trend across all of your followers requires you to be annoying enough to where you will lose some quality followers. [unrelated: FF's comment link doesn't scale well with 100+ comment posts!!]
- Paul Reynolds
Maybe next time you ask people to nominate charities to give the money to?
- Paul Bainbridge
@Scobleizer I saw the announcement retweeted it and then left a comment so that others may participate – I agree with the first part of what Louis Gray had to say, but I did participate.
- Kevin Tunis
People seem to me to be skeptical of contests, in general - I think. The idea that Paul Bainbridge has - to nominate charities to give contest money to is a really good one to consider. Here's something else ... consider the idea of giving away a trip to SXSW next year, with the opportunity to meet you, and possibly spend a little bit of time talking with you, personally. Your wife will LOVE that one ... NOT! Being from an entirely different industry (catering & special events), for me, it would be a blast!
- Carlo At Your Service
I don't know about you... but I really like friendfeed. I don't know anyone on friendfeed in real life or anything, but something about it just clicked with me.
That brings up a good point: what OTHER sites do you guys use? (seeing the links in your profile doesn't help, because it's not clear how much you use them). I've got upcoming in mine, but i don't think I've ever actually used it.
- Ted Roden
It took a little while to get it, but now I do.
- Mike Nayyar
Love the FF. And I love that I've been fortunate enough to meet people in real life as a result of being a total dork online.
- Derrick
Same here, Ted. I arrived a couple of weeks ago and felt completely at home.
- Rebecca Lasley
takes a bit of tweaking at first to get the desired "fit," but it's pretty cool overall. i wish more people would get involved because there's a lot of really good content that often gets lost or ignored in the shuffle, as the medium can often make the exchange of information very fleeting and/or temporary
- Cee Bee
It's pretty cool...I figure it will hold me over until they integrate LOLcats with WoW.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
FriendFeed is dangit cool. I use it mainly to aggregate my other feeds into this.
- imabonehead
agree Ted FF is by far the cleverest thing on the Net right now for following the best minds, unless anyone knows better. FF took me however 18 months to learn and I didn't just click into it.
- Thomas Power
Totally agree with Mark V, like most tech stuff i have no idea what 95% of the things you can do with this are, but the simple parts i do use keep me entertained.
- SteVe C
I love FriendFeed. I used to be a person who would put all his social networks on here (Twitter, Plurk,Identi.ca,BrightKite.) But then I realized that's stupid and no one will follow me back or look at my FF page. so I just deleted all of them but Twitter. I used to never "Like" anything or even comment on anything at all. I used to let FF post everything for me as an RSS aggerator. But...
more...
- Patrick
from twhirl
Ted, that well describes my experience. Glad you're around.
- Micah
Just reminded me I need to get back in for an eye checkup.
- Eric
Eric, me too. I'm on my last set of contacts. Now I'm thinking about glasses again, though.........
- Jandy
Jandy, these frames are from Lens Crafters and are available at a couple of places online. There's a link to 'em in my feed from last week...
- FFing Enigma
I think I just heard the sound of quite a few hearts breaking, and a worrying few taking on fresh challenge ;)
- alphaxion
Ozer, I missed the Kidman link earlier. No offense taken; I was told I looked like her a lot when I was in Argentina. Her and Jody Foster, which is just a weird combo IMO....
- FFing Enigma
You don't use gmail for your email Mona?
- Yolanda
@Lindsey Google has a "for business" Gmail. So you can use it with your domain, etc.
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
Is it secure for business? That would be only my only concern. Good job though! I wish I had a chance to work somebody that took my ideas as well, you are making great progress. Also show him ways the company can save money.
- orionstarr
I think it could be a great thing to use.
- orionstarr
Remember how Gmail was down a couple of weeks ago and everyone lost their shit? Just remember that you are using a free service on the cloud and if it goes down for a while, it's your ass. Great idea, just know that
- Johnny
just want to add my 1 cent: cloud based gmail has been the most reliable email I've used (hotmail, yahoo, a few other web based, plus comcast, verizon, and outlook, going all the way back to eudora at one time). Nothing's perfect, but gmail's record is much closer than the others.
- Vicarbott
I was considering this for my company, but decided against it (for now) because there isn't any good way to have Shared Mailboxes (or folders) like you do in Outlook. If anyone has an idea around that, I'm all ears.
- Justin Korn
Right now the company I work for is using the default GoDaddy. And I started talking about Gmail when they were complaining about me sending them a 4MB PDF of proofs because of the lack of storage space.
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
And it is very easy to sync with iPhones and Blackberrys. I had to sync an email account with someones iPhone and it was a bit of a pain to set it up with GoDaddy.
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
We actually don't use a desktop client we just use the online. And I'm a fan too. My boss asked me, "You really like Google don't you?" I said, "Why yes I do, I have a I heart Google tattoo on my chest right under the I heart Apple one." :P
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
We use Google Apps for Domains at GigaOm. I personally love it, but I understand concerns about downtime and privacy. They're valid concerns to consider, but all in all, I think it's worth money. It's actually cheaper than the hosted Exchange account I used to use.
- Kevin C. Tofel
As opposed to? [edit] ah I see... yes that would be a step up from GoDaddy. I haven't been as fond of it as Exchange, but Exchange can be a bear to manage and optimize.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
Used with Gears should solve the offline issue. I've used Gmail for Domains for about 2 years now (very early on) and it's been rock solid. Don't forget you get Exchange ActiveSync with Gmail now too.
- Ryan
I'm not sure about privacy aspects of using Google's email services but at the User Interface aspect they are awesome.
- Daniel Schildt
Matthew, please let me know how it works out. We're in process for Google UC now.
- Melanie Reed
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- Jorge Escobar
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