He's trying to enforce House rules with the intention to censor. He could have written a letter asking to relax these rules, but he didn't. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

Good read, thanks Mark. - Veronica

Heh. Thanks, Veronica. I tried to clearly mark the "boring" and "interesting" parts so that I'd have a better shot at folks making it to the end of the article. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

I don't get it. Currently the making of official posts (including videos) can only be on the government site. The letter proposes ways to allow posting elsewhere, but with care to avoid association with advertising and political material. So there is no addition of restrictions. They are proposing ways to relax the current ones for posting of videos. So yes, that is a knee-jerk post. - Dennis E. Hamilton via twhirl

I also believe that the blogosphere and especially Twitter were "played" by repetitious tweets that kept making the same mis-statement. - Dennis E. Hamilton via twhirl

Masnick has also replied, Mark. - Eric Eldon

I'm heartbroken. - Trish Robinson

jeez, Bush doesn't even use the "hate" word. - Andy Sternberg

So he hates commentators based on their favoured medium? Does he also hate artists who sculture (as opposed to paint) - Craig Thomler

Nice to know that hate is still part of his platform. - Douglas E. Welch via twhirl

me not know use computer, me hate computer people. - Amit Morson

You'll hate as more as we get closer to November. Keep saying stupid stuff. - Chris Baskind

The feeling's mutual. - Bryce

I'm sure " - Michael McGimpsey via twhirl

I actually watched the video -- it was obviously a joke. I take anything I read on C&L with a grain of salt anyway. - Shey

Seemed like he was joking to me - Bjorn Tipling

is this the kind of un-web 2.0 kind of guy we want running our country as we attempt to build our information worker dominance? ... I think not. - Shawn Smith via Alert Thingy

The things said in jest are often the most truthful things we utter, Sort of like In Vino Veritas. - Douglas E. Welch via twhirl

what a dumbass - Susan Beebe

hmm maybe he cannot find them on Internets? - Fred Grott

After seeing McCain with Jon Stewart 13 or so times, watching him back in 2002 on SNL as a hippie high school teacher, and seeing him on SNL in the last few months making fun of his age, I sorta get the impression he has... well... a sense of humor. He can be a funny guy. Hasn't anybody else noticed? - Ken Sheppardson

The company we keep. - Warner Crocker

A great divide in contemporary American culture: crony capitalists vs. creative capitalists. Crony capitalists hate creative capitalists and feel threatened by them. That's the subtext here if you dig deeply. The Bush 43 administration (of which McCain is a part) is the last angry gasp of a particular class of crony capitalists who want to annihilate everything that they can't understand or control. The Internet is full-throttle creative capitalism -- it drives these people nuts. - Sean McBride

Or maybe he was making a joke. - Ken Sheppardson

I think he is THE joke - Susan Beebe

Ken - How can a guy this deadly serious, with that rictus grin and ever-present rage, ever make a joke? Does he look like he gets the Internet? - Sean McBride

Unfortunately his jokes tend to be about hating people and bombing countries. That bomb Iran song was a hoot. - Kevin Bondelli

Sean : http://www.thedailyshow.com/vi... - Ken Sheppardson

This was on December 7, and the clip leaves out a part where he is using a blog as an example, so it is tough to determine whether he was being playful or not. I think the selectiveness of the clip is unfortunate. Anybody know where the whole piece is? - Dennis E. Hamilton via twhirl

Ken: I watched the video. McCain can be charming and likable in spurts. He's also a very angry man who is going to push the same war agenda in the Middle East as Bush/Cheney, at the behest of his neoconservative and crony capitalist puppeteers. If you think "Bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran" is funny, along with $200 to $400 a barrel oil prices, you'll be impressed by McCain's wit and brilliance. Joseph Lieberman, who knows McCain well, praised him as a "Maccabee" -- an Old Testament holy warrior. - Sean McBride

More evidence that McCain may, in fact, have a sense of humor: http://video.google.com/videop... - Ken Sheppardson

Sorry, I meant December 2007 (it was the 29th) - Dennis E. Hamilton via twhirl

@Robert Scoble: McCain's hatred of bloggers is evidence of blogger power. If a guy who can't use a computer feels the impact of bloggers, it's a cause for celebration, no? - Michael Markman

@Sean McBride: pedantic nit: Maccabee doesn't appear in the Old Testament. He appears in the Apocrypha. - Michael Markman

There's a massive lack of any kind of a sense of humor going on in this campaign, especially when it comes to McCain. He used a crack about beating his wife when he felt that a reporter asked him a "Have you stopped beating your wife yet, Senator?" question, and he got beat up about it. There have been many similar instances, and maybe this is one, too. I don't particularly like John McCain, but I think everyone needs to stop jumping his shit about trivial crap. - David Worrell

Michael: a man who attends to the details -- I like that. :) Let me rephrase: the Maccabean meme -- the archetype of the ethnic nationalist holy warrior -- is a product of the Old Testament mindset or culture. (And there are many fine things in the OT -- I am not using the term in an exclusively pejorative way.) In any case, Lieberman praising McCain as a Maccabee doesn't inspire confidence in me about McCain; nor is it a tribute to McCain's sense of humor (or even sanity). - Sean McBride

Note: Joseph Lieberman is also a big fan of Christian Armageddonist John Hagee, a fanatic who wants to set the world on fire, starting in the Middle East. Apparently Lieberman sees signficant similarities between Hagee and McCain. - Sean McBride

Sean: wow, that explains a lot! yikes - Susan Beebe

John McCain is definitely aware of the Internet. - Alexander Carlill

Sounds like he doesn't like people who express their opinions either - Judy Jones

November is going to be catastrophic for the GOP, I think. - Alexander Carlill

Susan: Lieberman, Hagee, neoconservatives and Christian Zionists/Armageddonists are counting on John McCain to expand the Iraq War to Iran and the rest of the Middle East -- that is why they are promoting him. Notice how many belligerent and threatening statements McCain has made on the subject. He's a fanatic, not a comedian. This entire political bloc also hates political dissent and often smears political opponents as "terrorists" -- hence their hatred of the free-wheeling and intellectually independent Internet. - Sean McBride

"I hate the bloggers." So, he hates the ability of people to express themselves without censorship? Seriously, even in jest, this is disconcerting. And remember the adage - never truer words spoken in jest. - AJ Kohn

AJ: One of John McCain's chief promoters, Joseph Lieberman, is also a sponsor of the Homegrown Terrorism Act, a piece of nasty legislation that is moving in the direction of censoring the Internet along neoconservative standards of political correctness. Make no mistake: these people really, really hate the Internet and diversity of opinion. "They hate our freedoms." :) - Sean McBride

And I hate the Interwebs, too! - David Gutelius

Ignore Lieberman. A few Senate victories and the Dems will kick him to the curb, he'll lose his seniority and the GOP won't take him either. He's a religious zealot and a total opportunist. Picking him as VP was possibly Al Gore's worst decision since he stole all of Vint Cerf's ideas and invented the Internet based on his unfinished plans... - Andrew Feinberg

Seriously folks - he was kidding. I'm not going to defend the man as a technology pioneer but I think we can all agree that "bloggers" in the most general sense are not beloved far and wide - I don't know where Yglesias gets off calling the laughter 'tepid' either. There are PLENTY of substantive issues to disagree over - I'm ignoring ridiculous "Obama doesn't wear a flag pin" memes - no need for anyone to grab their e-muskets over this one either... - Marco

I'd say the Democrats have pretty much kicked Lieberman to the curb already. - Ken Sheppardson

He's still Chairman of the Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee, and the leadership has to kiss his ass lest he go Jim Jeffords on them. With 12 Republican Senate seats open, give the Dems a few victories and Joe gets the boot. - Andrew Feinberg

Hey, just dug up this from his Liberty University commencement address back in 2006. Summary: He really does hate bloggers ;-) http://kshep.posterous.com/mcc... - Ken Sheppardson

he also hates puppies, lollipops pigtails and sunlight - I mean ANY sunlight - if elected President he has a secret plan to detonate nuclear devices on the sun so that he may plunge the world into eternal darkness mwahahahahahaha Oh and he met my grandmother once (sweet, sweet lady) and he slapped her because she didn't get up when he entered the room (she was wheelchair bound at the time). - Marco

LOL at Marco. Need to be able to "Like" comments as well. - Robert Stribley

@ Shey, i think he's serious, but he just let it come across as being a joke - Gordon Swaby

@Gordon he's not despite whatever other problems people may have with him he genuinely enjoys a free and open exchange of ideas (simmer down - no flaming that comment folks) for well over a year now (and long before ANY other candidate followed suit I believe) he has hosted regular conference calls directly with bloggers where every two weeks or so he jumps on a conf call and takes their questions. It is undeniable that he provides journalists far more direct access than Obama - Marco

I couldn't help but comment more extensively on Sean McBride's "creative capitalism" comment on my blog: http://tinyurl.com/5sj5qf After looking further at Sean McBride's FriendFeed, I can see the delusions don't stop at "creative capitalism". - Jason Huebel

He was clearly joking during that clip. Senator McCain gives unprecedented access to bloggers and to all media types unlike Senator Obama. http://tinyurl.com/677vds The main benefit of web 2.0 is that it gives us a better view of how people think and what they are really like, but in this election Senator McCain is the only one with an open access policy. Senator Obama is restricting access to all but a few media outlets while Senator McCain is letting small town newspapers ride on the Straight Talk Express which gives them the opportunity to ask the candidate questions. - Michael Beach

Jason: I read your interesting blog entry. Let me clarify a bit: "creative capitalism" -- new successful and profitable businesses based on original intellectual property and fresh ideas, not necessarily restricted to the Internet or information technology. "Crony capitalism" -- businesses based on financial manipulation, no-bid contracts, oligopolies, monopolies and the like. See, for instance, Halliburton's Iraq War profiteering. Creative capitalists tend to gravitate to the Democratic Pary; crony capitalists to the Republican Party. Halliburton is a very different kind of enterprise (and culture) than Google. - Sean McBride

John McCain's script is being written by the same neoconservatives at the AEI, JINSA, WINEP and other neocon think tanks who have come close to destroying the Republican Party and the conservative movement. They are urging McCain to expand the Iraq War to Iran, thus McCain's "joke" -- "Bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran" -- a little ditty that was also sung by neocon James Woolsey from the AEI. Is there anything funny about the prospect of $10 or $20 a gallon gas? Chaos in the Mideast? Try nightmare. - Sean McBride

Throughout the nineties I got the strong impression that old school crony and vulture capitalists were utterly baffled and enraged by the smart ass kids from MIT, Stanford and other hotbeds of radical imagineering who created the Internet revolution. They saw the entire cultural shift as mystifying, subversive and threatening. McCain is definitely old school in this kulturkampf. Ancient. - Sean McBride

They think they are providing a public service. What they don't realize is, its going to take a whole lot more than that to make me go get a life. - Russell Holliman

I just snorted with laughter, Russell. Look how fast we throw our heroin over here instead. : ) - Chris Brogan

The fail whale has three distinct stages, Fail Beached and Dire... http://tinyurl.com/633fng - Paul Rj Muller via twhirl

Alright, Chris just made me do a spit take...thumping my arm, lookin' for a vein, LOL - Cheryl Allin

Maybe while you and the rest of the team are looking for Ahab, Chris... others will recognize FriendFeed has played the part of the Wright Brothers. It's a new age. - Louis Gray

As evidenced by this conversation, eh Louis? I used to disagree with you on this. Now I feel like you've been on to this since forever, and I'm just now catching up to it. - Chris Brogan

The truth is, Chris, is that this isn't an either/or, although "battles" are more fun. The answer is simply, both. That Twitter has made themselves a laughingstock is frustrating, because when it does what it is supposed to, it can be very useful. - Louis Gray

Different kind of conversation. Need to be careful with follow. Smaller voices get drowned out. Unlike @ (and I do mean @) Twitter. @ reply feature is *powerful.* - Barbara K. Baker

It's Queequeg you want, mates! - Michael Tefft

I wonder, though, how this whole scatter of media makes it all work? Feels like too many rabbit holes here, or maybe that's the beauty? Feels like we can go all over the place, never really catching up to all the conversations. Non? - Chris Brogan

Chris, there's no one right answer. The power of aggregation is to have multiple conversations come in one place. The power of diversification is to have many separate conversations tailored for a specific crowd in more vertical places. The best bloggers and social media users will participate and engage where the best conversations are, and leverage search or other tools to be aware. Given the # of hours in a day is limited, how you use your time is up to you. - Louis Gray

Begging the question, when will Summize dig into FriendFeed? - Chris Brogan

I am seriously sick of the "what will kill X" conversations... - Jennifer Leggio

Me too. I wasn't saying it like that. I really meant the whale graphic, not the app. I'm a Twitter nerd. What can I say? - Chris Brogan

fwiw, twitter's back up again. shortest twitter outage ever. - Russell Holliman

Chris - That comment wasn't directed toward you. :) - Jennifer Leggio

Me think Robert Scoble is scared of the Great White Whale! Remember what happened last time? The Whale got his foot, and now he limps with a wooden stump. Oh Scoble where is thy Whale who swims the great vast internetz. - Igor The Troll

In my living room - I like television... in my car - I prefer radio. Just because I have a TV doesn't mean I don't want my radio to work in my car. Friend Feed is my TV - it's deeper, richer, requires more attention and time. Twitter is my radio - I'll sing along, drum on the wheel, but the static is getting annoying. It's time for them to up the signal. But meanwhile, FriendFeed/TV is rockin' it. - Lucretia Pruitt

I speak whale. Aeeeeeeeeewaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhooooooooooo. - Ryan Kuder

Ryan, well that was rude. There are women here, watch your language. :( - Bwana McCall

Aww... I love Rotties. - Roger Benningfield

Aww...I hate Rotties - Dieter Schwarz

I don't hate any dog, but I disliked Rotties before a tenant of mine got one. That changed my tune... he was an adorable little (and eventually, very big) guy. - Roger Benningfield

if only they could stay that small , cute video - fotographic

lol at the last sec of the video looks like hes attacking something - Michael Garrison via twhirl

i have seen more than one rottweiler mix at the local shelter with this reason for "owner surrender:" too nice. - edythe

Edythe: Wow... that's depressing. Good advertising for people looking to adopt, though. - Roger Benningfield

awesome. yes! - matt ceniceros

Oh. Hell. Yeah. Count me in. - Bryan Pearson

how do we get it? - Rahul Das

yes please - Rahmin Sarabi via twhirl

Yes, please. - Cecily Walker

Oh yeah - Jim Goldstein via twhirl

Yes, please as well. - Michelle Jones

Me - Henrik Johansson

I'll take a Small please! - Joe Dawson

Is it a t-shirt to wear when I'm really busy/ill or anytime? - Phill Price

that would be awesome - Henry McBride

love it - Mark Outten via twhirl

This is funny. Make a hat too! Evan will not be pleased - Photo Larry

would love one - Andrew Hyde

immediately please!! - Morgan via twhirl

Yes! I'll take one :) - Kate Brodock via twhirl

who wouldn't want one - michael parks via twhirl

Ships internationally? - Jeduan Cornejo via twhirl

Make it 100% cotton, I'll take an XL. - Dossy Shiobara

Like it! But would wearing this on broadcast TV be 'Wardrobe Malfunction' that the FCC would not object to? Just asking. - Micah Wittman via twhirl

http://failwhale.com/ - Billy Shipp via twhirl

i am so down for a failwhale tshirt! - Chris Cavs

this should make it at startupschwag - AJ Batac

Husband won't join FF but he wants one as well. ;) - Cyndy

I am in... I will go with a Large - Gilbert Corrales via twhirl

Here is the V 2.0 design http://friendfeed.com/e/4e4833... - Igor The Troll

love the t's and other items! - Leah McChesney

feel free to use my twitter eMom Rape design. dedicated to Mail Our Military http://www.flickr.com/photos/s... - Noah David Simon

me for sure :) - Stuart Forsyth via twhirl

yes I'm in, please make ladies sizes - Beth via twhirl

Um, I thought it was funny. My 6-yr-old screamed and said "creepy". - Karen Mohler

Commenting on this so that Mike Doeff can take a shot in the Friendfeed drinking game. - Jason Wehmhoener

always seems like there are those that treat the social media as a weird points game (which makes karma points in plurk kinda funny) - anna

@DC If you 'like' it, your followers will see it. There's no need to repost. - Michael C. Harris

I thought through that problem last week and started a room under my own name. I'm using it (among other things) as a holding area for stuff that I want to make sure my wife and/or friends see. My wife in particular is likely to blow off (or even turn off) FOAF posts, so that's the best way for me to go. - Roger Benningfield

DC, as Michael notes, if you like it, it's automatically shared with your followers. There are of course exceptions, and I don't have an issue with you doing this on occasion, but there are ppl on FriendFeed who do little else then repost other people's content shortly after the original is up. I still think it's poor form when done regularly in a spammy sort of way. - Duncan Riley

i'm no expert in ff matters but shouldn't the reshare say where it came from? like a hat tip? - chartreuse

Press embargo is one of those things that turned me off of old news. Social media is about "publish then filter". I simply don't have time to look whether the original author of a blog post already found time to post his link on FF or Twitter or SU etc. before I post the link. But a technical solution to bundle duplicates would be great. - benedikt

Good point Michael C. Harris and Duncan about sharing. My problem is I'm in a twitter mindset :) - DC Crowley

"Sharing is one thing, doing this intentionally for attention isn't." – That's true but can you be so sure people are doing this for attention? Perhaps they just want to bookmark stuff on their favorite service. Especially as long as FF doesn't fix the page-11-bug it's not a suitable place for my personal archive of stuff I liked. So I have to bookmark it elsewhere (from where it's fed back into FF). - Ole Begemann

One problem with this is that we see the duplicated content in FriendFeed, but in reality people have different channels / spheres in which they communicate and I think it's natural to want to update all of one's channels with relevant information. Obviously spammers suck, but I don't see someone who posts the same thing to Twitter and FF, for example, as spam. This is partially a FF problem and they should offer a solution to fix it. - Ray Grieselhuber

Don't assume intention when something else is explaining way better. it's ff problem of not connecting the dots. the bookmarklet is promoted heavily and that is what I use the moment I see it. As I do with other services. The difference? The other services catch it. Similar with likes. You do like and comment it on the first time it crosses your radar, at least most of the time. This does only seldom mean encouraging this one person who shared it, but it is about convinience. - Nicole Simon

Ole, to be clear on this, yes. We all repost stuff others have had up, but there were a few people doing it so regularly as to be clearly obvious as to their intent, I not only unsubscribed from them, I blocked them as well. I'm not suggesting that everyone who reposts something is bad...far from it. - Duncan Riley

Nicole, I believe that if the pattern is clear then intent is proved. I'm not talking about 1 or even 6 or even 10 items in a given day, I'm talking about people link whoring for attention lots and lots of content from other people frequently with the only intent to draw attention to themselves. Content that is still in my stream as I see them repost it, even to the point today where with me following 750 ppl the two links were a few items apart on the same screen. - Duncan Riley

True, convenience is a plausible explanation. Does it really matter who posted an interesting story to ff? Does it matter whose post it is, we are commenting? ff is about content and not about names. That's what I especially like about it. - benedikt

Nicole, do agree with you that FF needs to connect the dots. My proposal: original provider/ owner gets lead, subsequent shares come in underneath (above likes or with likes, but above comments) nearly Techmeme style. Less noise, better experience. You can still share with friends, but the noise is better managed - Duncan Riley

benedkit two things: when that person could have just as easily hit like and shared it anyway: poor form. When that story is two items down on FriendFeed already and the person is repeating the same pattern over and over again in duplication, poor form. If it's interesting, new, or delivered in genuine good will and sharing, no probs at all. Nothing to do with names, but if all you are doing is ripping other ppls FF entries over and over again, that will only deliver you a bad name. - Duncan Riley

as I mentioned above, I'm not for one minute saying that anyone duplicating an item is somehow doing something bad (the fact FF could better manage these is another issue), I'm simply saying that a very small number of people are reposting items that have just appeared on FF regularly for personal gain. I think it's disappointing, that's all. Sorry some don't agree. - Duncan Riley

Maybe it's also a question of semantics. "Reshare" does sound different than "Like", so that for many users "liking" an entry doesn't feel like sharing, which in fact it is. - benedikt

Duncan, when I see good content on FF which makes sense to add to Stumbleupon rather than FF I do so. Would that be the same in your book, because most of the times I do not do like where I saw it originally and I rather submit it to ff. I am asking because it is a similar pattern. And if you talk about the people doing that, why not talk about the 'like' people who have a 'pattern' of only liking things from 'famous' people? :) - Nicole Simon

Also: Sharing something has a different implication than liking. Can you blame people for not liking something which already has a dozen comments because it is not what you want to share? The sysetm allows me to share, why should I like it which by wording is something completly differe? Semantics, I know, but they are important. - Nicole Simon

@Duncan - I mostly disagree with you. You have the right to block anyone you choose. But do NOT judge my stream. If you don't like my stream then mind your own business. The almost techmeme style you propose has been discussed before. Hutch Carpenter wrote a good post discussing this back in April..http://bhc3.wordpress.com/2008... - Franklin Pettit

It's FriendFeed's fault that this is possible. I propose that reposting isn't possible and that Google Reader-, delicious-shares (etc) are shown as "Like"s to the original post from a blog author's profile or at least the first "share", and comments of all kinds as comments - but always to the original post. I'd rather see some kind of simple threaded comments than having the current situation. - sebmos

Ducan, you're right but I blame FriendFeed. They don't make it clear that when you "like" something, it shows in your own feed. So I can totally see how folks will follow a link, like it, and share it. You have to learn FriendFeed best practices as you go, and FriendFeed doesn't do much to help the learning curve. Not fair to punish folks for it. - Judi Sohn

And yes, I agree with you Duncan that FriendFeed should consolidate links in one view, giving users the option to view all comments/likes about a link or just comments/likes from their friends. - Judi Sohn

It's intriguing - I talked about duplication recently in a blog post - http://padajo.wordpress.com/20... - Friendfeed will fast become a problem child of the internet if aggregation issues are not ironed out - Paul Johnston via twhirl

So we're talking about SPAM and duplication, and you're trying to redirect us to your blog. It fits. - sebmos

This can be a problem. I often see the same content because someone shares it directly, another through Google Reader. I know I often will tag something I find interesting on FF via del.icio.us, which means I create some amount of duplication. I'm not doing this to spam at all, I just like the item and want to refer to it in the future. - AJ Kohn

This needs a technical solution, not a behavior solution. There are many many reasons for the duplication, it isn't just "spam" (though that may be one reason in some cases). - Jason Wehmhoener

Agreed Duncan. Bad form. I do, however, have to resist commenting on my own FriendFeed syndicated items to keep them at the top of the stream longer. I admit it. - J. Phil

Lately, if I del.icio.us tag a link I see here, I've been intentionally marking the tagging as private. Then, I go back later and "un-private" it. I'm hoping this cuts down on the duplicates. Am I wasting my time? - Harvey Simmons

This thread is driving me crazy. FF is NOT Digg and I do not want it to be. My Stream is my Stream. No judging my stream. Do you hear me? DO NOT JUDGE MY STREAM. DO NOT TELL ME WHAT I CAN SHARE. This whole notion is insanity!!! - Franklin Pettit

Re: the duplication of links and consolidating them. See Bret Taylor's post on this: http://tinyurl.com/54mt8g - Hutch Carpenter

Harvey, I think you're wasting your time. I'm certainly not going to go through all that effort out of some misguided sense of etiquette. We need to get behind this proposal from Bret Taylor: http://friendfeed.com/e/f08cbf... - Jason Wehmhoener

Debut back to friendfeed after a slight hiatus, and people are still talking about FF on FF. Nice to see stasis has been maintained. - Anthony

@Franklin Pettit - Nobody tells you what to share, no need to shout like a child! "We" only tell you that if it looks like you share stuff only to get your own stuff commented, you'll get banned, and that generally duplication is a problem. If you had actually _read_ the comments, you would have seen that most people recommend a technical solution and don't agree with Duncan Riley. - sebmos

@sebmos - this is recycled discussion. duplicate links is not a new topic. this has been discussed for months. do you not see how this mentality of trying to enforce what people can do is as bad as Digg. I will shout to be heard. Self-righteousness will not be tolerated by this user. My stream is my stream. If you do not like their content block it. FF does not need to gain a herd mentality even if it is in the name of cleaning noise from the stream. This is a slippery slope and I want all ... - Franklin Pettit

to realize this point. My stream is my stream not to be judged by others. - Franklin Pettit

Oh please. Blame the user? Seriously? The problem is that popular content is reshared - that's the very nature of social media. FriendFeed currently makes no effort to show how many people are sharing, bookmarking, tweeting etc the same content so the discussions around that content become segregated little silos. This is one of FriendFeed's biggest challenges to overcome, IMO and speaks greatly to the "noiseness" of the system. - Sarah Perez

does that include sharing through google reader? - Jason Kaneshiro

Well, glad to see it wasn't me that Duncan unsubscribed from. I really try not to introduce too much new duplication into the system. If I see someone share a Google Reader item I like I try to find the original and only "like" or "comment on" the duplicate if I can't find the original. But on the other hand, I'm not sure what kind of behavior Duncan is mad about here. People who don't add their own original content to FF aren't getting noticed very much and I'm watching 2,800 people and I don't see this. - Robert Scoble

Not necessarily. If I think an article is valuable, I'll post it to multiple networks. I'll Stumble it, bookmark it on del.icio.us, and even Digg it, as need be. I may also post a quick note here on FriendFeed, linking to it, to make sure people have a chance to read it. I hope that's not considered spamming, because I'm not doing it for myself. I do it for the VALUE of the content. - Raoul Pop

Raoul: ahh, I see the problem here. Yes, each of those systems has its own audience. I wish FF just had more ways to reduce duplication and/or bundle it together. I agree too that when I get really excited about an article I'll often share it multiple places. Lots of people who follow me on Twitter or Google Reader or my blog don't follow me here. - Robert Scoble

I never, say, stumble links that I've found via friendfeed. I try to only share GReader items from less popular blogs, too. - rambn

Not to bring up other sites such as SocialThing! but I think that their new release takes care of duplication due to multiple services; I'm sure FriendFeed can do this and much better. - Aaron Myers

Please: no FriendFeed etiquette blog posts! Use it however you wish; but if you're annoying, I'll unsubscribe or block if I have to. - Shey

okay. it seems the complaints about comment theft, moving conversation, dupes, are coming from those who are concerned about pageviews and traffic to their blogs, probably because of ad revenue. Those who blog for the conversation don't care. As my old bio teacher once said: follow the dollars... - Jason Kaneshiro

perhaps this is true for well-read bloggers like yourself Duncan, but for people like me... well, as you can see - no one on ff really reads,likes or comments on my posts - so when I do repost things from big guys like you, its more for my non-ff-friends to enjoy via my feed on facebook. Cool? - Will DeLuca

Duncan - can you tweak QMeme so that if it reports on one of your FF entries, it says "Duncan" instead of "You" at the beginning? - J. Phil

I can't get my wife involved in anything more complicated than my Google Reader shared items feed. I frequently use the GR bookmarklet to share interesting things I read on FF with her on Google Reader, which then links them back here into friendfeed. It's not a matter of stealing content, it's sharing with other venues. - David Worrell

So what do you guys think when you find a good article? Do you say "hey, this is a good article?" Or do you say "Wow here's my chance to become popular off someone else's writing?" Let people share what they want. - sergiooooooo