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"We'll ask early [Wave] users to nominate people they know also to receive early invitations." Nominate-good way to avoid eBaying invites.
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GMail did fine with a few automated invite exchange programs back when I first signed up. People put their name on a list, concerned inviters grabbed random addresses and fed them to google.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
how do I nominate someone?
- Brian Ahier
Brian only people invited in the first wave get invites. If a friend invited you you won't have any yet. Search your inbox for the word invite to see if you missed them.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
from iPhone
Nutella Pound Cake - http://whatastitch.blogspot.com/2009...
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"This cake is so simple, yet brilliant--the Nutella is the perfect foil for the buttery pound cake. I normally want some type of frosting on my cakes, yet the chocolate filling more than makes up for the lack of a sugary coating on top. (Did I mention there's an entire jar of Nutella in this cake?) Be sure to have a tall glass of milk standing by before digging in. Trust me. You won't need anything more."
- Derrick
from Bookmarklet
Sounds perfect!
- Karma Martell
O M G
- Rochelle
Ew. Why ruin poundcake with that stuff? *cries*
- Admiral Anika
*takes Anika's portion*
- Derrick
Here...take two!
- Admiral Anika
Oh hell yeah. This will be a Shabbat dinner dessert sometime soon.
- Michelle Jones
I'd eat that.
- ha3rvey, not a sweetheart
@Anika -> that stuff is part of humankind heritage protected by UNESCO! Long live Nutella ;-)
- Lui(gi) ►►
LOL @Luigi. Fine. It's still GROSS! =D
- Admiral Anika
ANIKA! OMG. You are dead to me. :(
- Miriella
Come now...we both like pound cake. #commonground
- Admiral Anika
I know! We can eat the cake together - you eat the pound cake part and I eat the Nutella part. Everybody wins!
- Miriella
*dead* MUST. make. this.
- Carmen
I think that's a great plan, Miriella!
- Admiral Anika
*salivating*
- Rene Wirtz
has never had nutella -->
- LogEx
*SLAPS* LogEx. O_o
- Derrick
it sounds good, I'm not saying I wouldn't try it, I'd try anything once (almost)
- LogEx
Given your love of quality chocolate, I think you'd like it.
- Derrick
LogEx... you will be converted and never look back.
- Fossil Huntress
Oh guess who just got invited to have dinner in my Cantor's Sukkah on Friday night? Nutella Pound Cake seems like a good dessert to eat in a Sukkah right?
- Michelle Jones
M, I want a full report. I was all set to make a lemon yogurt loaf, but this has caught my eye.
- Derrick
@Miriella -> u have my full support! (too bad it's too late to get out and buy a 3kg nutella jar ;-)
- Lui(gi) ►►
how is it too late? !!!?!
- Miriella
it's 9pm over here and supermarket shuts down at 7.30pm
- Lui(gi) ►►
Ahhh...you need to move to a place with a 24-hour supermarket to satisfy your Nutella cravings...
- Miriella
zomg. YUMMMM.
- Liz
OMG....LOOKS GREAT!!!!!!!
- lizskincare
forever Nutella..Beware of imitation :p
- mariamaqdalena
This looks awesome I am printing the recipe right now for the weekend.
- Justin Broderick
When you go shopping for Nutella, be sure to check whether it was made in Canada or in Italy. According to some online sources (I forget exactly where), European Nutella is superior. As for the cake, I love Nutella, but I have to say Blegh. That looks way too heavy for comfortable eating.
- Kamilah Gill
Kamilah - maybe we can lighten it up by whipping it into some ice cream - something like a blizzard?
- Katy S
I'm so making that - that looks just amazing right now.
- Matt Ellsworth
arghh.. stomach. hurst. hurts. much. nut...
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
Nutella + Anything = JOY
- Harold Cabezas
Nutella +... sardines?? :( I like each one separately, but together, uh....
- Kamilah Gill
@Kamilah -> damn right! certain things (as well as humans) are meant to go seperate ways ;-)
- Lui(gi) ►►
I love Nutella. If you are ugly is the best drug!
- Alessandro Marocchini
Is Nutella this famous around the world?
- Woland
@Woland -> in Italy it's H-U-G-E!!!
- Lui(gi) ►►
mm delishes :)
- Svly
I'm sorry to contradict, but an ENTIRE jar of Nutella has never successfully made it anywhere (except for mah belleh! Not all at once tho'.)
- Mark "DerBingle" J
I think I've told this story before but there was one summer about 10 years ago where I had nothing but Nutella, saltines, and vodka for 4 days.
- Rochelle
@Rochelle -> I call it party! a looooong one ;-)
- Lui(gi) ►►
Wall Street Journal / MIT Sloan » Finding an Innovation Strategy That Works « MIT Sloan Management Review - http://sloanreview.mit.edu/busines...
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Persuasion, Influence, Innovation (despite barriers) - http://www.slideshare.net/nic221...
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Preview slides for a talk at Internet Librarian 2009, coming up on Oct. 28, 2009. Nicole Hennig and Rebecca Jones. http://www.infotoday.com/il2009...
How Do Innovators Think? - HBR Editors' Blog - Harvard Business Review - http://blogs.harvardbusiness.org/hbr...
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Managing Innovation is about Managing Change - http://www.business-strategy-i... - Braden Kelley - #innovation #change #mgmt #leadership #sm
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RT @MRPaulSimon The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes, but in having new eyes. By Marcel Proust
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Defining Knowledge Management and Enterprise 2.0 – Sharing Your Story - http://www.elsua.net/2009...
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Enterprise 2.0 Brings Knowledge Management to the Forefront - http://www.intranetjournal.com/article...
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Being social at work: which communications model to adopt for the enterprise? | The AppGap - http://www.theappgap.com/being-s...
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Online Database of Social Media Policies - http://socialmediagovernance.com/policie...
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@danielbru if you let other people decide your life plan you will probably go the wrong way.
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From Twitter: I'm not letting other people decide. It's a matter of people telling me their experiences, and what I can learn from that.
- Daniel Brusilovsky
RT @ThomasStone RT @marciamarcia: Social Media Policies of 80+ orgs. http://sn.im/SoMe-policies via @Infosourcer Wow. #e20 - http://twitter.com/badsqua...
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RT @aprildunford Spam isn't marketing. Marketers should know that http://www.rocketwatcher.com/blog... Nicely stated!
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The Secret of Enterprise 2.0 Implementation Success: http://bit.ly/C7XUu Aim high, just don't tell. (via @dhinchcliffe) - http://twitter.com/carlhag...
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RT @garrytan: Posterous Theming: It's here, it's live, and it's time to make your site yours! http://blog.posterous.com/postero...
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Like like like. Been waiting for this. I have a couple of family WordPress.org blogs I maintain that I want to move to Posterous. For non-geeks, posting by attaching stuff to email is SO much easier than logging into a WP site and writing a post there.
- Josh Bancroft
Anyone know some good tumblr themes that work well with posterous? I tried a couple and they did not work completely.
- Bryan Lee
Josh: Agreed!
- Bryan Lee
Rest in Peace, FriendFeed - http://www.misanthropicgeek.com/2009...
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So, I launched this blog and then haven’t updated it in days. Trust me, I’ve been writing: I’ve seven drafts not including this one—most of which are nearly complete—to prove it. I’m just being hypercritical and, honestly, a little nervous. I feel like there are a lot of eyes on me eye and that puts [...]
- Akiva Moskovitz
I like your blog, Akiva.
- Anne Bouey
I like your wife, Akiva.
- Derrick
Mango Minyon! :-)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
DO ANYBODY NO WHY DERRICK DON'T LIKE MY BLAG
- Akiva Moskovitz
CAUSE IT'S NOT BALCK.
- Derrick
Why 2010?
- Bryan Lee
Just a guess as to when FriendFeed will be fully absorbed into Facebook.
- Akiva Moskovitz
You have just been RSS'ed into my G-Reader. Assimilation!
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Bring it on!
- Akiva Moskovitz
As for decentralizing, I'm glad that I just used a subdomain for my "profile" address on my moo cards... I was going to use my FF address and then decided to use the subdomain and have it redirect to my FF url, but now I can just point it at something else...
- Lindsay
nice write up Akiva hi5
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Nice job Akiva.
- Charlie Anzman
Thanks, guys!
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva: loved it, although my feeling was that you stressed out a little writing it. A blog is about putting your unedited ideas out there, so just relax, have fun and keep on writing! I am a faithful subscriber now :)
- Jorge Escobar
Akiva, liked your post. The 2nd point where you mention FF's walled garden was especially interesting. Am subscribed to your feed now. Keep writing!
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Love. I made my FriendFeed theme as an homage. R.I.P
- sofarsoShawn
Jorge, actually, I didn't stress out in writing it; I stressed out in starting to write it. Once I start writing, it's pretty much a non-stop flood. Priming the pump, however, can sometimes be a tiring exercise.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Mahendra, thanks! That second point just came to be randomly as I was writing but it seems to make sense.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Well thought out post, Akiva. Thanks for sharing.
- Bill Kinney
Thanks, Bill. Means a lot to me.
- Akiva Moskovitz
True or not ... the graphic is classic Akiva
- Charlie Anzman
practicehacker, I'm pretty sure you want to get people reading your stuff, too, but just spamming a link to your blog in someone else's thread usually isn't really the best way to do it.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Oh practicehacker, you shenaniganeer. That's one demerit!
- Christopher Harley
#FAIL practicehacker. In other related news does anybody know the terms of the sell yet? More precisely what's going to happen with our feed/information? Or has it not been released yet or even will it be released? ie is this blog post now the property of Facebook?
- sofarsoShawn
And yes, SHENANIGANEER.COM is available! My gift to one of you who covet domains.
- Christopher Harley
Shawn, Bret has promised more details soon. Since it was a talent-grab, I'm guessing the details of FriendFeed's future are still being mapped out as they were secondary to the employee absorption. Meanwhile, for what it's worth, both Robert (and to a lesser extent, Louis) have been promising the news is better than we had initially thought but still no useful details. Until then, 'Answer hazy. Try again.'
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva, Shawn - If you'd have bothered to follow the link you'd have seen that I posted a piece with a similar name and sentiment (i.e. Facebook and FF are not a match and people who enjoy FF lose in the end). I was agreeing with Akiva not trying to boost my own blog. I could care less if you know who I am. Since you decided to cop an attitude, up yours you snarky bottom feeders.
- practicehacker
practicehacker, I actually did read your post. I also clicked around and read several others. However, I won't be visiting your blog again. The name-calling was unnecessary. You could've explained your motive without the insults and I'd have gladly apologized for my incorrect assumption. Ah well. Good day to you, sir.
- Akiva Moskovitz
This segment of the thread is brought to you byyyyyy ::coughs::
- Jorge Escobar
[cue The More You Know theme]
- Akiva Moskovitz
♫♪ http://kl.am/2naW ♫♪
- sofarsoShawn
For some reason, when I think of that commercial, the Intel music plays instead.
- Akiva Moskovitz
the Intel "bong"
- anna sauce
Intel bong? is that like some sort of quad-core hash pipe?
- Trent Olson
Just make sure it's not a Pentium II bong else you won't get as high as you think you are.
- Akiva Moskovitz
All I had to do was ask nicely and you would have apologized? I can't tell you how sorry I am for ... wait a minute how come I'm apologizing? Even though you have yet to get it, the point stands: you shot your mouth off before reading my post and made a series of wrong assumptions. Anywhere but on the Internet you would have looked like a fool. As it is though, you are just one more #FAIL.
- practicehacker
from email
::EYE ROLL::
- Derrick
"dude, check it out...i overclocked my bong"
- Trent Olson
Oy vey. Go away already.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I find it interesting that a guy who is not really involved in ff is trying to scrap with Akiva... http://www.ffholic.com/Search...
- Bren -- Not Grinchy
I just ate a mango the other day.
- joey
That's okay, joey. You can still enjoy mangoes and pandas. They don't go extinct until 2010. And yes, I'm adding pandas to this just to bring the hurt.
- Akiva Moskovitz
just for the sake of comparison: http://www.ffholic.com/Search...
- Bren -- Not Grinchy
Bren, do you really find it “interesting” that I have fewer posts on Friendfeed than Akiva? Based on your profile you’re 20-something and have nothing to do but post. Guess Akiva is from the same school. As is usually the case, my first reaction was the correct one: you and he are from the same school of bottom-feeders. Better you should stick together than accept any view point other than your own. Peace out. Practicehacker
- practicehacker
from email
Your analysis is utterly wrong, and what I find interesting is that you would challenge Akiva vis-a-vis friendfeed protocol. Oh, and calling me a "bottomfeeder" doesn't prove your point (which lacked foundation to begin with).
- Bren -- Not Grinchy
from iPhone
Bren, don't feed the troll! Unless his name is Igor or Cristo, of course.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I was flattered that he thought I was 20-something, though. :)
- Bren -- Not Grinchy
from iPhone
Now that you point it out, I should be, too. Thanks, practicehacker! You're a lil sweetheart when you want to be.
- Akiva Moskovitz
The Crucible Effect and the Scarcity of Collective Attention - http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009...
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"Within a group that is paying coordinated attention to any information-work domain, skill levels rapidly escalate, leaving isolated individuals far behind. I call this the arms race effect, and it is a product of a fertile mix of elements in the crucible: competition, mutual teaching, constant practice and sufficient, but not overwhelming variety. This is a very particular kind of attention. It isn’t passive consumption by spectators, and it isn’t performance for an audience. It is co-creation of value: that same dynamic that is starting to drive the entire economy, blurring lines between producers and consumers. So our challenge in this article is to answer the question: what is the optimal size of a creative group?"
- Ho John Lee
How can we export our FF data? Discuss:
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Linking to each of them, and using "Clip to Evernote" :(
- jcunwired
I suppose with a little coding the FF API could be utilized, correct?
- Mike Fruchter
Yeah - that's really scalable and quick when you have thousands of FriendFeed bits of data. Better idea - forget it and remember that if you care about your lifestream, the best place to host it is 127.0.0.1.
- Andy C
API?
- mjc
Likes and comments are not important to me, all the other data is. I understand FF is not going anywhere anytime soon, but it's better to be safe than sorry.
- Mike Fruchter
Look here http://ff.im/6sKQ7
- Michael Fidler
Just add your stream into google reader. I can roll all the way back to my very first FF post. Add gears for instant backupability.
- Slappy Line
My data's already exported. I post everywhere - no single network will ever affect me
- Jesse Stay
from iPhone
So what is your method, Jesse?
- Karma Martell
Jesse IS skynet, it would seem. :-)
- Slappy Line
Slippy, but that only affects your Original Posts, not comments in others' threads. The majority of my submissions to date is in comments (3500+ to 333 likes to perhaps 200? posts - I don't even know how to extract the correct number of my own posts here…)
- ianf ⌘
I also have my discussions feed in google reader, and that does include comments in others' threads
- Slappy Line
You mean the three feeds http://friendfeed.com/slippy... http://friendfeed.com/slippy... http://friendfeed.com/slippy... and they imported into GR, collated timewise, and allow you to roll back all of your contributions here to date?
- ianf ⌘
Karma, just make sure you're using services that copy your content out to your other networks. I use TweetFace.net to copy my Twitter content out to Facebook, and FriendFeed to copy out to Twitter. All my stuff goes out, from the original source, to FriendFeed, which goes to Twitter, which goes to Facebook. I also copy all my photos to Flickr (my nicer ones go there), smugmug (where I...
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- Jesse Stay
Not to mention that you can always just get my content from the original source.
- Jesse Stay
I did it now for my own feeds, imported the three tiers of posts, comments and likes into GR. It fetched last 30 pieces each, 90 in all, with the same timestamp (not the original ones). It did not collate them in LIFO order in the folder, though later ones perhaps will appear with better import dates than these. Too bad FF didn't advertise this capability right from the start (although I do not remember there being RSS feeds when I came here in April).
- ianf ⌘
Jesse, you're quite correct in employing such cross-archiving methods, but not everyone is comfortable with the thought of the content being plastered allover the web in ways one perhaps can not control. More archival sites mean more accounts, mean more passwords (if one-time), etc. More is also the fill-in part in "____ than one can chew." Ongoing crossposting is all dandy, but not quite what this thread once was about.
- ianf ⌘
Look at this blog post http://blog.lifestreambackup.com/2009... and twitt with #backupfriendfeed
- Gilles Meiers
There must be some small app which downloads an entire RSS feed in one go and turns it into a single file.... isn't there?
- Ňicķ
Not. Yet.
- ianf ⌘
easier way ,,, just leave it running
- johnpiercy
Here's a post which might help backup other sites, but not friendfeed; Free Tools to Back Up Your Online Accounts - Backup utilities - Lifehacker http://bit.ly/rNzJL
- Michael Fidler
Here is how to : http://blog.lifestreambackup.com/2009...
- Gilles Meiers
Why Streamy Could be the Next FriendFeed - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
sofarsoShawn, Wins Fern, metalerik and 132 other people liked this
Oh Sarah .... no no no :P
- Chris Saad
I'm checking it out now, I like the interface.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
@Chris: oh yes, yes, yes! Please read.
- Sarah Perez
As long as we all go to the same service!:)
- Patrik Johansson
we're all swooping in now!
- Jim Hearts FF
joining...
- Jemm
I signed up a while back and encountered errors while trying to sign in. I just tried it again and still getting that same error. No Streamy for me.
- Yolanda
in
- andy brudtkuhl
I'm joining, if just to see what's going on in there. Same username.
- Jennifer Dittrich
Well, I gave it my email address 20 minutes ago, and I've just tried with another email address. Still got nothing back.
- Mark H
interesting...
- Grey Drane
Hmm... commenting on FF from streamy? Where does it show up? (this is a test...)
- Grey Drane
holy crap this is what FB should have been IMHO....this is what I imgine maybe FB+FF might look like?
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
OK, not sure. It's a cool idea, but it's like a slower, less optimal interface for your various social networks. All in one place, sure, but I'm thinking I'd rather keep separate tabs open than have everything crammed into one site.
- Grey Drane
yeah I see what you mean...not sure.....definitely lacking importing of services though for more stuff.
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
from IM
seems too busy
- andy brudtkuhl
bah, 500 error after I signed up. damn you all for killing it!
- Mark Bockenstedt
Ooooooo Shiny New Thing.......
- Roberto Bonini
Finally got 3 emails turn up all at once, signed up, and... 500 Internal Server Error. I get the message. It doesn't want me.
- Mark H
I got the 500 Internal Server Error too... :(
- Seth Gray
you all killed it! lol
- Sarah Perez
lol the net effect just killed another site!
- Justin
500 internal server error, could't not be my FF replacement for the moment !
- David Foucher
can't say i agree, but i like the effort ;)
- Gunther Sonnenfeld
Was just finishing the sign up when it died on me.
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
Streamy server fail :(
- Eric Logan
I hope they've improved performance. When I first got on a couple of months ago I thought it was wicked but then it started breaking on me.
- Justin Whittaker
Signed up a while ago but didn't spend too long. I'll go back and see what the fuss is about.
- Kenton
Just tried to sign in and it crashed (twice). Doesn't look promising.
- Jill O'Neill
Let's blame Scoble (the Robert one) since he seems to be gone from FF now anyway.
- Kenton
Slow as molasses, then crashed. Streamy people reading this thread? Don't get your hopes up that the little influx of FFers are going to stick around long.
- Christopher A Carr
Streamy should be back online and working nice and fast. Whole team was out the lunch when we got a flood of new users, but things are smooth now. Sorry everyone!
- tuxboo
Sarah, brilliant post, thank you. It's hugely valuable to see a side-by-side and to have your opinions on what needs work. We'd definitely like to make FriendFeeders comfortable on Streamy. We'll be back with updates. And hey, Chris, my friend. Don't hate ;)
- Don Mosites
Which Chris? :) I'm not hating, I'm just suggesting that we need to stop making the same mistake over and over again - crowning 'winning tools' - the winning platform is the web - the tools should leverage open standards to create web-wide distributed social networks. Blogs are the right place to start - tools like streamy are great ways to aggregate the community - but not HOST it
- Chris Saad
Opera browser support please. Other than that, it looks pretty good.
- Alejandro
Just joined! Seems to be promising.
- Joao Alves
Been using it for months. I must admit it's the best Twitter "in the cloud" client that I've used. Far better than Seesmic Web Client, at least.
- Jordi Soler
Thanks Sarah! Was looking at Streamy earlier today. Just joined and happy to give it a try. Also want to check out AmpliFeeder. Not bailing from FriendFeed yet, but feel the need to investigate alternatives.
- Larry Hawes
This really looks like an interesting concept:)
- Rob Cairns
Joined Streamy today. Oddly, its FriendFeed feed isn't showing this thread...
- Dennis Jernberg
Oh, *there* it is. I see this thread right at the top of my Streamy FF feed now. Commenting from Streamy.
- Dennis Jernberg
I don't get the "New from People" stream. The few conversations that are happening get drowned in all these useless activity updates. I want to see what people are sharing, not what they're *doing*
- Christopher A Carr
And I keep getting signed out of Google for no apparent reason. Lots of little oddities -- lots of work to do before this is usable.
- Christopher A Carr
Checking it out ...
- Tom Horn
"Invalid image type. Provided image/png" I like my PNG avatar ...
- Tom Horn
No but it's still a nice project...
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
there is also lifestream.fm but not so useful
- Ahmet Soyata
Joined!
- Anthony
too slow!!
- Miketrevis
Joined but could not figure out how to add FriendFeed acct
- Jacque
ha! dumb errors :-L
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
it would be nice if you could opt out of the 'ping every network' but still link your accounts. I haven't seen any settings for that in squirmy, I mean streamy.
- Holly Rae
Facebook won't buy this
- ThenWang
I still think it's a nicer UI than socialmedian
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
For some reason it isn't letting me log in anymore. I remember when people were anxiously awaiting Streamy, and then with all the delays, it seemed like people just forgot about it :P
- Angelo Rodrigues
If the rumors come true it will be a sad day indeed... this alternative looks interesting though....thanks'
- Bill Masson
Streamy won't be replacing anything any time soon if user's can't log into the service. :o
- Kevin Whalen
That was a very thorough review.
- Amani
Thanks Sarah. Great review.
- Iván Abrego
Now Streamy is crashing on me every 5 minutes.
- Christopher A Carr
Couldn't even log in...I really hope there's another friendfeed clone out there that is easy to use...
- brainno722 (Peter)
Don't think they're ready...
- Brad
no, they're not ready yet... but can they be by the time the need arises? I think it's in there.
- Jim Hearts FF
Hey all, we made some fixes to avoid the crashes you were experiencing on Streamy. Be sure to check back in again soon. Thanks for trying us out!
- Don Mosites
I tried it last night. It's wonderful. But the loading speed wasn't that good. Or is it only me?
- Er-fun
not just you.
- Jim Hearts FF
Hi Facebook, It's Me, FriendFeed. This Relationship? It's Complicated. - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
Helen Sventitsky, Spaceweaver, Vishy and 135 other people liked this
That was quick! Look forward to reading this one!
- jcunwired
Because just like in high school, sometimes the sweaty jock who doesn't wash his hands after using the john still gets the best girl - while those of us who carried her books and wrote her poetic love letters and timed our walking to go by her locker at just the right time find ourselves on the outside looking in again." You nailed it Louis!
- Steve
Nice post, Louis. Was waiting to see what you'd write. :)
- Kali
well said
- andy brudtkuhl
this is perfect, Louis. Nicely done.
- Jim Hearts FF
Super-poke.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
My immediate reaction was Facebook will push ads onto their users. I think FriendFeed could be seriously screwed up with live moving ads, so that's hopefully out of the picture from a purely usability view. Friendfeed is all about realtime web information. I then wonder how in that case will the monetise the relationship. My guess? Facebook will show live conversations and hopefully they will rip out the poor IM implementation in Facebook. The purchase may be nothing more sinister, I hope...
- Mark Aitken
Well said Louis. This is the big question.
- Mark Krynsky
Okay, so now I'm ready to cry. Excellent post, Louis. Thank you!
- Ladybug Heather
Excellent, you've captured my sentiment very well. Mark - I disagree. FF is an excellent platform for floating ads based upon our behavior, and it is just about the only platform in existence where the algorithms for ad placement could have been done right - and welcomed.
- jcunwired
Louis's reaction is the one I most wanted to see. Thanks for not disappointing us, man!
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Very nicely done. Puts feelings across perfectly.
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
"FriendFeed is the one that has a 4.0 GPA and had big dreams of an Ivy League diploma. And yet, she ends up with you - the Silicon Valley equivalent of your local state school. When you come rolling in with your heavy car, big wheels and pumping bass, we don't care how much money you say you're worth - we still don't trust your grin when you open the door and say "hop in"."
- anna sauce
I'm *loving* the high school stereotypes as metaphor, btw.
- anna sauce
jcunwired - I hope it's unobtrusive, don't mind people making money, but lets hope it's sensible. My worst fear is FF is seen as a threat and silenced, but I'd doubt Zuckerberg would be so brash..
- Mark Aitken
This metaphor reminds me of the "Forrest Pimp" strip on Sinfest a few years back: http://www.sinfest.net/archive...
- Daniel J. Pritchett
We are watching.
- WorldofHiglet
Nice post.
- John μller
Brilliantly said. Don't think it could have been said better!
- Matthew Horton
from iPhone
I just learned about this minutes ago. Louis it's not 4 big companies. there will only be three after Microsoft merges/acquires Facebook and Google buys Twitter. This move makes perfect sense for Facebook and it's what their SocialTV initiative needed to really work. I see big things for it in Facebook's future. I don't know how I feel about it though!
- Michael Fidler
Wow....vicious.... Pure perfect.
- Matthew DeVries
Somebody wrote that this is just about getting FF's tech talent. Don't you love how all these social networks conveniently forget who it is who makes them valuable?
- Dawn
"Me? I'm dishonest. And a dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest. Honestly, it's the honest ones you want to watch out for, because you can never predict when they're going to do something incredibly... stupid." – Captain Jack Sparrow
- Matthew DeVries
That was a very enjoyable read :) And the point about bright startups having dim perspectives at the end is alas the truth at the moment: you have to be able to bootstrap your finance, have revenue from the start (membership, affiliates, whatever) that funds your growth. Or find a way to get sold to the big boys (although there are big boys outside the immediate industry that might...
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- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
As always very well said Louis!
- Jacque
Good post and commented on your blog. I need to get back into that habit. :-)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
yes, your comments are treasured on my blog, they will not be sold :)
- Valeria Maltoni
Really great post, Louis.. We all will be watching to see what happens. Interesting if it goes the same way google's acquisitions all have. Seems like when they started buying up apps, they killed them. And so it goes....
- Sheryl
I agree with Sheryl. We'll be watching. In my very quick Tweet earlier, I said this really narrows the choices and flings the door wide open for disruptive competition. In many ways, I see this as proof positive that the winner in the battle royale for microblogging (orwhatever we choose to call this services) is Company X, as yet a sleeper who will disrupt the landscape significantly.I don't think it will be a known player. At least not one known in this space.
- Ken Camp
Louis - that post is awesome... I just laughed out load with that one... nice!!!
- Susan Beebe
I had suggested facebook to buy friendfeed in one my blog post.
- Madhav Tripathi
Terrific article Louis, best I have read on this deal so far.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
Wow! Wonderful blog post!
- Peter
This was one of the best yet, Louis!
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
Remember Rule #1 though :-)
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
All true.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Great post
- Thierry Lhôte
The FriendFeed-Facebook relationship will need a healthy dose of Dr. Phil.
- imabonehead
And friendfeed.com ends up like Nola Rice?
- j1m
Life streaming via Friendfeed I always felt like a kind of a partner investing something of me in something greater... Now I discover that this investment counts for nothing. No one was or is committed to keep the style and special features that made Friendfeed attractive in the first place. No one is committed or loyal to the user base and the investment of life talent and prestige...
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- Spaceweaver
If FriendFeed disappeared _tomorrow_ (which it won't), all that content I've been sharing... will still be shared.
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FriendFeed has always been about aggregation of all my content from outside first and foremost.
- Louis Gray
So, subscribe to my blog: http://www.louisgray.com
- Louis Gray
Follow my Google Reader shares: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Louis Gray
Connect on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/louisgr...
- Louis Gray
See my bookmarks on Delicious: http://del.icio.us/louismg
- Louis Gray
My photos on Smugmug: http://louisgray.smugmug.com/
- Louis Gray
Yeah, what happens to the embeds on my blog eventually?
- phil baumann
And I'll be on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile...
- Louis Gray
It's just WAY harder this way.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
So even if this got erased tomorrow, which it won't, I will not stop pushing tech your way. Just connect every other place. *Yes, Jandy, harder, but doable*.
- Louis Gray
I'll be glad when NetNewsWire enables sharing via Google Reader.
- Akiva Moskovitz
That *is* a lot of work, and I'm not so good with the techy. :(
- Derrick
We need a unified 'business card' site so we don't have to track these things individually. If you had some way to instantly handshake with other people and get automatic updates of all their activity around the net, then FriendFeed kind of becomes superfluous.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Here I am, Akiva: http://www.google.com/profile...
- Louis Gray
See how good I am? I thought up the idea and mere seconds later, it's been implemented, made available, and Louis Gray's already on it!
- Akiva Moskovitz
Except for those of us who only hang out on FF now and don't really use other services =/
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Tina, maybe it's time to branch out a little?
- Akiva Moskovitz
Of note, Paul and Bret (and the rest of the team) are going to work to ensure the doom and gloom will not come to pass. Just look at their comments over the last few days: Paul: http://friendfeed.com/paul... Bret: http://friendfeed.com/bret...
- Louis Gray
Louis - Google Profiles is a fine listing, but no way to "connect" yet. LinkedIn is a basic card (although limited to the number of links you can have in your profile). Luckily we know how to reach you.
- Stuart Miniman
@Louis Eh ? FriendFeed may have started out that way - merely as an 'aggregator' and if it had remained merely that, it would be trivial to replace with a conventional blog and a few plugins/Tumblr/Posterous/Sweetcron. However, what was great about FF was the community and the conversations that took place here. How on earth are you going to replicate that element - purely by using your tired old boring conventional WP blog ?
- Andy C
Stu, nothing is perfect (except FriendFeed). I think everybody knows how to get me at this point.
- Louis Gray
Andy, yes. FriendFeed started out as aggregation-only. But I have already seen people worried about getting their tech updates if this went away. So I wanted to unlink it all for now.
- Louis Gray
Stuart's right. I was looking around for a subscribe button.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Sorry Louis, but nothing in either Paul nor Bret's comments instills confidence. Its all one huge "if", and lets face it - they don't hold the reins anymore.
- jcunwired
Akiva, the thoughts of branching out and starting up profiles at umpteen different places just so I can keep in touch with people makes my head swim. I like FF because I am inherently lazy and this interface works with that. Sending my photos to place x and statuses to place y and watching videos on place z no longer sounds like fun, that sounds like work =(
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Tina, true. And I'm not talking about replacing FriendFeed (and neither is Louis) but making sure that what you ARE doing isn't so reliant on one single service that when that service goes away or morphs into something horrifying, you aren't left out in the cold.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Oh, I know. But what I am doing is FF: if it goes away there's no option but the cold (or doing the social media work, and really, that's not being very lazy).
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Agreeing w/ Tina - there are a number of sites that I don't create on or visit often that FF gave great visibility to and sometimes gave me reason to visit (or make me aware of in the first place). Oh well, hopefully it all gets sorted out in a couple of years...
- Stuart Miniman
Louis: Sounds like you are making contingency plans for FriendFeed going under? Scoble's already saying he thinks the FB guy's won't invest here and now this from you too. It's not looking good.
- Jim Connolly
Of all the content that aggregates here, I can recreate most of it. What I will miss most is the wonderful photographs I would never have seen before from flickr integration. Maybe Thomas Hawk has ideas on that one.
- jcunwired
@Jim FriendFeed is dying. It's just a question of when. There may be some data migration but who wants all their data in the FaceBook 'walled garden'. Not me.
- Andy C
the problem is not so much the shared per service; but the shared to groups. There's some stuff I push to FF, which I don't push to a service
- clarke thomas
Andy: That's what I am hearing from a lot of FriendFeed users. I blogged about it earlier and a commenter on the blog made a good point. He said FaceBook didn't buy FriendFeed to invest in it. If that's true (and I am startiing to think it is) then it's a matter of when FF closes - rather than if.
- Jim Connolly
@Jim Agreed. IMHO Facebook bought the brains behind FriendFeed. And that's fine by me. They developed a fine service, innovated and deserved it. FriendFeed doesn't owe me anything.
- Andy C
I guess really the only content that might NOT be as shared will be the native FF posts - particularly using the Bookmarklet. I suppose I can use "Press This" and post it to my blog from now on, just a little more effort, certainly. I tended to keep my blog for longer articles and FF for the small content. Guess we'll just have to all transition...
- Nathan Chase
A few months ago I stopped posting anything I cared about as native friendfeed postings, mostly because they were getting lost in the river of other shares and updates. I extracted all of the old postings, saved them, and created a tumblr site (and later moved it to posterous). One can backdate entries in both tumblr and posterous, to match the date it was originally posted in friendfeed.
- DGentry
crikey the passion or FFassion in this place is incredible.
- Thomas Power
Personally I don't want to follow someone on a ton of different services. Especially when I don't want to be a part of those services (looking at you Delicious).
- Mathew™ one of a kind
I have a serious man-crush on Mr Gray
- Johnny Worthington
Any of those services could be the FriendFeed of tomorrow, Louis. I don't trust this stuff anymore.
- Shawn Farner
Not unless they have a solid plan in place to sustain their business. Waiting for someone to come and buy them isn't what I'm talking about.
- Shawn Farner
this Gray guy is all over the place
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Yeah, watch out for him, Dobromir.
- Louis Gray
doesn't look scary though I am also looking forward to seeing him IRL if it's meant to be...
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Lifestream.fm, and Socialthing.com might be decent replacements.
- PurpleZoe
Obviously I can't provide a lot of detailed plans and guarantees, but I can tell you that I'll do my personal best to ensure that the FriendFeed users and community are treated right. I love this product too, and don't want to see it disappear.
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That's great to read!
- Diego Barros
Thank you, Paul.
- joey
:)
- Internet's Tad
I hope so.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Good of you to recognize.
- Bill Kinney
Thank you, Paul. Hearing something is always better than hearing nothing =)
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I think this was a smart move fore FF and FB
- Joe Hall
What about the service?
- Amit Morson
Ok
- Matthew DeVries
That's a start. Thanks for reaching out.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Thanks Paul.
- sean percival
Thanks Paul
- Mike Doeff
We don't want it to go either.
- Yolanda
I would not expect any less from such a cool guy like you, thanks! :)
- Susan Beebe
from iPhone
Please keep it going for as long as you can or until you can make Facebook actually work.
- AJ Kohn
That's heartening, Paul. Thanks.
- Admiral Anika
Thanks Paul!
- Darren Heydon
We love you guys and FriendFeed.. we are just a little hurt and worried.. just please give us details as soon as possible.
- Tim Hoeck
FriendFeed lets me use people as filters to turn data into information. Facebook doesn't. Until it does, please, Please, PLEASE keep FriendFeed as a destination alive.
- AJ Kohn
congrats guys! facebook needs what you got!
- Lorna Herf
I'm sorry that I haven't said more about this. As you can imagine, it has been an extraordinarily busy day (and I've barely slept in the past week).
- Paul Buchheit
I'll add my plea to the chorus: Please don't take FriendFeed away from us. And don't make us go to Facebook (because we won't). FriendFeed means a lot to a lot of people and the thought that it will dry up and blow away shortly is very disturbing.
- Lindsay
It's still great to hear from you Paul. Congrats on that new swimming pool full of cash. :D
- Internet's Tad
Simply glad you're here now. You've always been a very responsive and transparent team. As much as I cringe at the thought of FF going away, I *am* happy for you and the team.
- AJ Kohn
Thanks Paul.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Thank you kind sir.
- Andrew Smith
I request you make it to the next scheduled FFundercats podcast to talk to the community. This announcement deserves a live appearance to the community.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Have been dealing unsucessfully with Twitter for two days, trying to get logged in...Their password reset page says"Snap we can't find you." I keep writing to Tech Support at Twitter and get their helpful auto-generated Twitter Trouble shooting email. My problem is not there. =( Hope FriendFeed does not get that blaise about helping users. @EV
- SashaKane
If FB can't keep the service running, would you consider open-sourcing the thing, so we can?
- Christopher Galtenberg
from iPhone
Hi Paul, thanks for the assurances. In the future, I would highly suggest that you make this sort of statement shortly after the initial merger release. Thanks again.
- Alex Scoble
Thanks for keeping the passion!
- Shane
Nice to hear Paul. Thanks.
- Mark Krynsky
I would like to give you a hug right now Paul. However, that would be awkward and April might beat me up so I will just say thank you and press the like button.
- EricaJoy
Best news I have heard today.
- Angus Burton
Thank you for affirming that. Much appreciated.
- Karoli
A few more points that would be nice to have addressed soon. Ability to export data, tool to import friends to Facebook, and will ff.im urls continue to function?
- Mark Krynsky
Amelioration??
- heretic_twit
Those that like friendfeed as is should be most pleased with this statement, as it probably means maintenance to keep the current system as is, without as much attention to new features. It's also good news for all those who like both friendfeed and facebook, as facebook will likely adopt the better features from friendfeed
- Ivan Kirigin
That means an awful lot to me.
- James (!?)
This has been quite a day! Can't wait to hear what is next!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Thank you, Paul. Thank you for coming out from behind the curtain and finally giving us some communication, some semblance of hope.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Thanks, Paul.
- Glen Mistletoe
So we can expect a Facebook adaption of this? I like this technology over everyone else!
- Shaggy Jenkins
Eric, my schedule is still a little uncertain at the moment, but I'd be glad to appear on a future FFundercats.
- Paul Buchheit
That would be a good thing Paul. Thanks.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Cool :)
- Susan Beebe
from iPhone
Thanks for making FriendFeed what it is, and lets hope it stays that way, though there's slim chance of that
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Now that I think about it: are you kidding me? They've already stated that FriendFeed's going to be absorbed into Facebook. What kind of sleight-of-hand are you trying to pull now, Paul?
- Akiva Moskovitz
@EricaJoy: I have nothing against hugs. :)
- April Buchheit
Thanks!
- Vincenzo Piromalli
Thanks, Paul. I've been getting more and more depressed thinking about the bad ways this could go. The reassurances help a bit, at least. In fact, just hearing you speak on the point is encouraging - the open lines of communication between the FriendFeed team and its users has always been one of the great things about FriendFeed that I'm afraid will be lost with the Facebook buyout. And yes, a FFundercats appearance would be a great idea.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
I don't want to read too much into this reassurance but the "personal best" remark made me think like there is not a united FF anymore and that it's up to your personal efforts to prevent it from being eaten by FB :)
- Turker Keskinpala
you can sell the tech but the community can not be bought sold transferred or merged
- Robert Higgins
from f2p
Turker, I do believe that this deal was the right decision -- I'll write a bit more about that when I get a chance. I say that I'll do my "personal best" because I will -- it would be misleading to make promises on other's behalf :)
- Paul Buchheit
Hoping so... practicing patience
- Majento
Paul: I'm hopeful that this will be the best for both Facebook and Friendfeed. What you and the staff at FF have done is amazing, with only 12 people! I love the service here. I also enjoy Facebook (one I ignore all quizzes and stupid apps), but in a different way. Hoping some coolness can be brought to both. Good luck to you and your team!
- Travis B. Hartwell
this echoes star wars galaxies, incredible unique community. but they upgraded it to be like world of warcraft. this is a replay of the devs soothing messages. the forums were livid the community evaporated.
- Robert Higgins
from f2p
When socialmedian was acquired by Xing they left it alone. I hope the same happens here. I'm sure you will do your best though!
- Michael Fidler
On behalf of the Dutch citizens our Queen wants to let you know: Thx Paul.
- Ton Zijp
Don't know what to say, so lets start with big congrats! from one hand, as an early member of Friendfeed I think we've created here a very cool, collaborative and tech-savvy/passionate community of great people that all probably wish to stick around as much as possible. From the other hand, I know how corporates work and it takes one small decision of share holders to close Friendfeed...
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- Nir Ben Yona
My first reaction is disappointment. I don't believe big corporations do better than small ones. Facebook is inferior to FriendFeed, although it's user base is much larger. Clearly FriendFeed won't survive in the long term, unless it is open sourced. Why not open up and embrace the wonders of the GPL instead of joining forces with the Walled Garden no #1? Facebook don't even operate with permalinks,.
- Morten Blaabjerg
Thanks for the explanation Paul. Of course, I congratulate you guys. I think anyone would do the same thing if they were in your shoes :)
- Turker Keskinpala
Very bittersweet clicking [Like] on this one.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
A big congrats for you guys.. However, I feel kind of sorrow :)
- Ozkan Altuner
good to hear
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Thank you - but I would very much like our content to stay intact. :)
- Mona Nomura
Of course it is, Ryo.
- Christopher A Carr
Ryo: if you delete your account everything goes away. I totally disagree with you about Facebook, but that's OK.
- Robert Scoble
Good to hear. Unfortunately I think Facebook are going to download the brains of all FriendFeed staff then kill FF.
- Michael McGimpsey
but Paul it is going to disappear - Facebook bought FF not for the site but for you guys. So obviously once its integrated into Facebook, development on FF will stop
- Anthony Feint
If FriendFeed and all of it's functionality get integrated into Facebook I'm all for it.
- Hugh Isaacs II
Thank you Paul! Congrats on the deal!
- Garin Kilpatrick
Paul - that's great news. It surely can't cost a lot to keep this place running and it's a good place to try out ideas before they move to FB.
- Martin Bryant
what about improving the product and making sure it gets more users, not only supports those who stay?
- Ihar Mahaniok
Ihar - unlikely. Facebook bought FF for the developer talent, not for FriendFeed itself.
- Martin Bryant
from iPhone
Why should we believe this? I'm not going to hold my breath.
- Mark Wilson
Martin - I also think so, and it is most likely. But I could still have a hope
- Ihar Mahaniok
Paul, please - underpromise & overdeliver...they say it works.
- A.T.
Nice to hear. Too bad you don't call the shots anymore.
- jcunwired
FriendFeed is Dead! Long Live FriendFeed! (nice name for Facebook skunkworks) I'm sure everyone would love to see FriendFeed itself stay around, even if the innovations that happen are geared towards implementation at Facebook. Thanks for this note Paul! :)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
There are a few promises and guarantees that you SHOULD be able to provide. Like, that our network of friends will remain intact and that the features that make this site great will remain. If you can't make those promises, then you shouldn't have done the deal. I sure do hope that the real-time search engine wasn't the centerpiece of this deal (it probably was), because that certainly...
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- Brad Williamson
Paul you did such a nice job with friendfeed, and I so want to believe you, but I'm not sure I can. Not because of you, but because of your new employer. Because your new employer is no longer you, and while I have kind of come to trust you, I do not trust your new boss. Not at all. Please prove me wrong, if they'll let you.
- Jim Hearts FF
Paul - thanks for that reassurance. PLEASE stick to that! I was in the middle of reading and participating in a lengthy discussion off of a Robert Scoble post yesterday ... then I came up for air and saw your news. Congratulations - I have no idea what that feels like or how pumped you must be. There are so many things FF does that I LOVE...I know you know that. Please Please PLease dont' go away! Thanks!
- Tobin Truog
Thanks for the personal note Paul.
- Mike Reynolds
Phewww..relief ;-)
- Ritu
This is nice to hear, and I really hope that FriendFeed will keep on living. I still have some pain in my stomach because of this :/
- Patrik Johansson
First zombie/mafia request and we're all outta here....
- Fossil Huntress
+1 Fossil Huntress The partitioning of the networks between friendfeed and facebook was a major feature that many people made use of, lacking appropriate controls for who sees what. Merging the two groups of friends isn't going to work, at all.
- Mr. Gunn
It doesn't sound like you understand what has people worried. I wrote this to help: http://friendfeed.com/brlewis...
- Bruce Lewis
And we'll appreciate this man! Try to do your best to help FF :(
- FFTornado
Maybe Bruce analysis is too imaginary, but the question is THE question nobody answered: why did you do it, Paul?
- Luca Sofri
I left a response on Bruce's entry (http://friendfeed.com/brlewis...). I'll write more about this on my blog when I get some free time.
- Paul Buchheit
Thanks.
- Bonnie Foster
we all know what needs to happen. the question is, where? ... FB needs, - apart from being/it is, a large, general, open application platform, - 1. Smart keyboard shortkatze - and Im a kbsCzar to go to, 2. Aggregating facilities, smart /RSS/ .. 3. Full blogging facilities, capabilities, not 140 chars. 4. Full real time comments facilities, capabilities. 5. Real time, live, but ALSO...
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- Petr Buben
I hope you're being open and honest with us. This time. :(
- Kamilah Gill
Good to know , we´ll see :)
- Yahya
Thank you! I am sure you will do great things at FB. I just hope that the great app you built here isn't destroyed. I don't know of any other aggregation app that I can embed into my site like this one!
- beersage
Congratulations on your successes, best wishes for more. And thanks for continuing to look out for us loyal, addicted FFanatics!
- Rob Schieber
I hope it continues, i'm a new user and absolutely love it (wish i knew the value of it before)! Congrats!
- Luis D. Santos
As nice as it sounds I'm sorry to say that as a, now, Facebook's employee I'm afraid you'll have to comply to whatever your new boss tells you. Didn't MZ make it clear?
- lelapin
and let me add second, obvious, "Facebook needs" - Friendfeed bookmarklet, and Friendfeed tools - widgets, embedding - real time and not - of posts, and groups ...to embedd, to inject oneself into this thing called Internet ..... so, if FB listens to FF engineering long enough, they are going to get it .. right
- Petr Buben
Paul, what I am worried is not that you're brainwashed, but that there's simply no business need for Facebook to improve FriendFeed from now on, period.
- Ihar Mahaniok
I have confidence Paul. While some of the comments were probably uncalled for, covering an investment (of time and money) in these times to move on and hopefully provide even 'better stuff' makes sense to me. It's pretty obvious there are a LOT of people that don't want to 'lose' Friendfeed. (I wouldn't hold a town hall for a few weeks though :)
- Charlie Anzman
Congrats, Paul. It's sad that people have to make these uncalled for hatred comments about Facebook though. Why can't both sites work together. I think Facebook will do better with FF and vise versa. Take the good features of both services. Don't boycott FB, enjoy it. I'm sick of the negative comments going on, that's all. :(
- Mol, Santa Claws
Molly: What makes you think there's going to be a "vise versa?"
- Christopher A Carr
Because I don't think Paul and the other FF developers would allow FB to do anything. I'm sorry, I am not going to think negative here like some here are. I guess I'm a fangirl for FB.
- Mol, Santa Claws
Finally something about the changes on the horizon that isn't all d0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0om and whining. Thank you, Paul! :D
- Christian (Simply X)
The time to think about how you could do your 'personal best' to ensure FriendFeed continues to exist was prior to the discussions with Facebook. Not after.
- Andy C
Paul, what about the content scam that FB T&C is, does it apply to Friendfeed now? Should we all start writing scripts to retroactively delete all content ever uploaded to Friendfeed? Elaborated a bit here - http://friendfeed.com/mbravo...
- Michael Bravo
We know you'll try your best, Paul. But sometimes, you just can't win the dark side...
- Winston Teo
Thanks Paul for all your efforts. Founders often want the best, but acquiring companies often have people with political/power issues or different/limited visions.
- Mitchell Tsai
Yeahhhhhhh BOoooiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!
- sofarsoShawn
yes, thank you, Sergeant Paul ... well, good to hear we go on ... because if not, how about starting www.anotherFeed.com ... or, www.Letsgofeed.com ...... anyway, lets boost blogging capabilities, post more than current amount of chars, lets have TOP POSTS / clicks count list at the head of each group, some stats, lets index group headers, lets have MORE keyboard shortcuts .. - now ......
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- Petr Buben
Gartner Hype Cycle 2009: Web 2.0 Trending Up, Twitter Down - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
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I like most of what it says--wikis and corporate blogs are coming out of the trough--but didn't someone say microblogging (Twitter) was heading into the trough at the end of 2008? I wonder if that part is really accurate. I just heard of augmented reality last week, and already it's on its way up!
- Connie Crosby
#ivalue @VMaryAbraham for her willingness to share her frontline E2.0 challenges, frustrations and insights. - http://twitter.com/rotkapc...
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Now I'd like a few more E2.0 solutions!
- V Mary Abraham
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I'm perpetually on the hunt for the best basic recipes: the best vanilla cupcakes, best macaroni + cheese, etc. and for a while I was on the hunt for the best (to me) brownies. I've been using and refining this recipe for about 3 years now, and I think it's the one for me - and maybe it'll suit your fancy, too! As far as sweet stuff goes, I fear I have very simple taste. Chocolate chip cookies? Best cookies. Milk Chocolate? Best chocolate. This is the confectionery world I inhabit - the same one as when I was seven. And because of this, I make a lot of brownies...at least a batch every other week. These are so reliable, so fast, and so good, and they fit my brownie-criteria to a T. I know that people look for different things in their brownie, but these are my top concerns: -Chewiness -Soft-ish insides -Crisp (but not hard) little crust on top and sides The little crust is, to me, extremely important and kind of elusive - but these have got it (food science-wise, I'm pretty sure it...
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- David Cook
*drool*
- Carmen
Thanks. It sounds like her ideal brownies are MY ideal brownies.
- Spidra Webster
So, who is leaving FriendFeed?
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And go where? Back to Twitter or...Facebook?
- Manuel Mas
no idea yet.... see what happens.
- Rob Sellen :o)
I have nowhere else to go. No where else gives me the high level of interaction that FF does.
- Mel Buckpitt
Same FriendFeed as before, I'll still use.
- Ben Parr
Of course if Paul hands me a few hundred shares of stock ... just kidding. Sigh.
- Robert Scoble
I was going to ask how you felt about the purchase, but now I see
- acedanger
Depends how much it changes.
- Andrew Leyden
Why leave?
- Mike Shulman
+1 Mel - I am gutted and don't know what to do if the main FF site closes
- Matt Hooper
Why would I leave friendfeed? This place works well enough for me.
- Talon Lardner
Manuel: back to my blog and Twitter, probably. I'm playing around with Facebook but it doesn't quite do it for me.
- Robert Scoble
I'm sticking around unless there's some sort of mass exodus which I don't see an immediate reason for.
- Mike Elliott
Not leaving 'til it closes, and I'm certainly not going to facebook or twitter even then.
- Jim Hearts FF
I'm sad, but I'm sticking around. I'm hoping others do to. At some point, the fuss will die down.
- Helen Sventitsky
Mike: because I expect it will get shut down eventually if it doesn't get invested in, and if it gets no new features it will fall behind Google Wave and other projects.
- Robert Scoble
This feels like that HBO Documentary about Brooklyn Dodgers going to LA haha.
- Manuel Mas
And, actually, Google Wave seems to be the most obvious thing for me to try out from now on.
- Robert Scoble
I will stick around until they move the features I like from friendfeed onto facebook.
- Bryan Lee
Isn't it a bit early to make decisions? Has there been an announcement that I missed that FF is going away? Even if it isn't where else is better at this point?
- Internet's Tad
I'm not going anywhere Helen...When it goes it goes...I'm sitting tight on the ship
- Bill Heslin
there used to be a kind of message board system ages back with FB. disppeared one day never to return, lets hope this will bring something of that back, who knows..
- Terry O'Fee
I can't wait to try out wave. ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Waiting and watching. Robert, I know you have a discussion tab on FB but its not the same. ;)
- Melanie Reed
How soon before google wave becomes available to the early adopters/public?
- Bryan Lee
Mashable just published a How To Take Advantage of FriendFeed's Unique Features. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. A little late for that, no?
- Stephen Pickering
didn't you just just say "FriendFeed is dead. I will keep using it until Paul unplugs the last server, which could be years" ? or i'm missing something
- Liviu Barbat
I'll stick around to the bitter end.
- Dave Metzener
Robert: Earlier in the day you were excited for both FriendFeed & Facebook. It didn't sound like you were leaving FriendFeed. What changed? Why not stick around to see what happens?
- Jill Elswick
Bryan: I heard they weren't handing out beta access to non-developers until September. Cold be wrong but that's what I heard
- Mike Elliott
I'm in wait and see mode. It would have to be absolutely sucked in by FB for me to leave it completely.
- pea
Robert, if you believe this is a good deal for both FF and FB - why are you leaving?
- George F. Snell III
When should we cue in Titanic's last song by the band as FF sinks below leaving us all behind?
- Manuel Mas
Why leave now? Until it is changed or killed, it still works just the same.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Same assessment as you, I'll stick around but I need to find an option B now. I guess I'll go wherever Louis Gray recommends
- Alberto Saavedra
I plan on sticking around for a little while longer. Not ready to jump ship yet.
- David Finch
Melanie: yeah, real time really has me going. I will wait until I get a better sense from the FriendFeed team about what will be done here. I just am not getting the right signals from the team that there will be any investment in this. If that's the case, I'd rather invest my time somewhere else. Google Wave. Ning. Vanilla on Building43. Twitter, now that I got rid of the spammers. Etc.
- Robert Scoble
I'll watch and see what happens. IF I feel that it would be useless to stay, I'll leave the site.
- TeraDyne Azurepaw
I think the features of FF will be incorporated into FB (guilt free) and FB profiles will be more tied into FF. That's about all we'll see...
- Gus
Scoble: Ning?!?! Really?
- Manuel Mas
Manuel: hey, Pirillo is over there. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I'm staying here until something else catches up.
- Bruce Lewis
Robert, I can definitely see the value of your invested time on any service, but for the average user, what is the downside of sticking around here as long as the site still exists?
- Jeff P. Henderson
hmm, ning. unexpected, but understandable
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
@Scobleizer: The big crowd is not even at Friendfeed yet and you are already leaving? Someone will be by in a few minutes with a drink. Please help yourself and stick around for the conversation. You will be greatly missed should you choose to leave so soon.
- David Damore
Social Media is a set of tools--I appreciate the connections I make, but I'm not getting too emotionally worked-up about the tools changing. FF probablywon't function as my Social Media hub much longer.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
I like it here, so I'll hang out as long as possible.
- sean percival
Not making any set plans yet, but keeping my eyes and ears open.
- Martha
And when Google buys Twitter, won't that be interesting
- Stephen Pickering
Bruce: have you played with Wave yet? I'm wondering how good that is? I gotta get an invite. Off to beg someone cooler than me. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I will continue to use it until it closes down in its current form.
- ashish
+1 ashish
- Liviu Barbat
Google/Twitter vs. Facebook/FriendFeed
- Stephen Pickering
I'm a little pissed that we haven't heard much from our other "rock stars". Where the hell are they? This concerns them, yet I can hear a pin drop. I think there secretly plotting. Roflmao
- Jeunelle Foster
I don't want to but if it eventually goes down the way everybody's predicting it will then i'll have to look for alternatives :( .......by the way where do i beg for Wave invites :)
- Bhowmik Shah
I'd bet Microsoft buys Twitter before Google does.
- Gus
I haven't played with wave yet, but from what I've seen it's got potential. FriendFeed's got polish.
- Bruce Lewis
I wasn't planning on going anywhere, but I guess I'll be spending more time on Social Median. Perhaps someone should start putting together a decent buddypress site?
- Aram Zucker-Scharff
I might leave only because I quit facebook - I hate the mindset, the shallowness, and am afraid (make that certain) those people will come here
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Gus: Microsoft and Twitter deserve each other. They are both somewhat buggy and don't come up with new features very often. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
I think I'll be heading back to Twitter until Google Wave is publicly available
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Robert: Since at the end of the day all these platforms are businesses and have to eventually make money does it make sense to keep investing time and effort into building communities on them when they can sell/merge at any time and dismantle the tools that keep the community in place? it seems like the portable community concept of something like Google FriendConnect now makes more...
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- Mike Elliott
The other rock stars are drinking. :-)
- Robert Scoble
If Facebook had an easier way of connecting with people but not showing them all the personal stuff I'm willing to show to my close friends (and the stuff my friends post about me), I don't think I'd need anything like FriendFeed or Twitter.
- Edward Coffey
Robert: I've played with Wave and I wouldn't really put it in the same category as FriendFeed at the moment. It's not really about sharing and conversing in mass form IMO. Its really conversation with maybe 20 people or so but its much more difficult to focus conversations about shared content. Let everybody know when you get an invite and your address so we can add you! :)
- Brandon Titus
I'll stick around until the end.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
It kinda proves a theory I have about us all being reduced (if I can use that word) to channels. I don't think social networking will go away, but as the internet and deals increase, so does the noise. Don't worry Scobe, you still show up in our Google reader every morning!!
- professor daddyo
Man, what are we going to do without these discussions like this?
- Stephen Pickering
Mike: No community is permanent. It's worthwhile to participate even if it's temporary.
- Bruce Lewis
@Gus, Well MS has large stake in FB so I'm not sure about that. I'll stick around here till it peters out. The tech news rooms here are top notch.
- Adi
I don't use FF much other than for private rooms, so I'll stay for those. Whatever other activity I have (which is sporadic and generally not personal) will also remain.
- Cheryl
I'll stick around until they pull the plug.
- Morton Fox
Leave friendfeed? what's the alternative I'd really like to know. Is it facebook?
- Tate DA FF MVP
I'll stick with it as long as it's here and people are still active. FF4L!!
- Cassidy
What is the next thing? Where do we go now? Not FB! But where?
- Michael Liss
I heard it's MySpace
- sean percival
I'm staying until the end as well.
- Mitch
I won't be deleting my account, but signing in and commenting? No. No real point to continue putting data into a service that is gonna get unplugged anyway. Guess we just have to return to blogs and twitter.
- BCK
quick! everybody back to MySpace!!!
- acedanger
what? leave and create a better version of Twitter? or start FriendsterFeed?
- Andy Sternberg
The downside for me? I invest time in things that WILL BE not that are. That's always been what keeps my interest and now that I know that FriendFeed probably will not be, even if it takes five years to totally die, I've lost a great deal of interest in it.
- Robert Scoble
Michael: I don't think anyone knows today where to go next, because there's no good substitute out there. We can only hope that the next destination will be obvious before they pull the plug.
- Bruce Lewis
With the price of bandwith/computing halving every year, there will be a new one of these popping up pretty quick
- Stephen Pickering
I'll just go to twitter. I have a facebook account but I hate it. Facebook is the walmart of the web.
- Darrel Davis
Should we move to where?? haha
- harri78son
I'll be here until something actually changes for the worse
- Dennis O'Neil
harri78son you could come back over to my blog and we could setup JS-Kit Echo. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Damn now I need a drink :)
- Jeunelle Foster
That's right, Scoble is the catalyst for these longer threads anyway, so it might as well move to his JS-Kit
- Stephen Pickering
Robert, that's a pity. I'm lucky to deal in things that only get more interesting as they get older.
- Bruce Lewis
I'm torn. What are our options?
- Kelly Mitchell
yeah~ definitly! @Jeunelle foster please come down,
- harri78son
I see now...This whole thing was a ploy to get everyone visiting Robert's blog! I am outraged! :P
- Brandon Titus
Brandon: OK, we can go over to YOUR blog. Got Echo? :-)
- Robert Scoble
Bruce: Very true. I've tried to get into FaceBook but it's hard to get the clean conversation feed along with lifestreaming content. It just seems to be full of distracting noise even with the ability to filter with lists.
- Mike Elliott
I'm here till the end.
- Nolan Alston
Robert, the same could be said about Flickr, they haven't had much inovation since Yahoo bought them, but people still use the service in droves.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Don't worry Kelly, a new one of these will pop quickly, if they kill this
- Stephen Pickering
Kelly: we don't need to leave tonight. Let's trash the house first! :-)
- Robert Scoble
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
- Stephen Pickering
Brandon, that's funny. At the Boston FriendFeed meetup, everybody else had learned about FriendFeed through Scobleizer. I was the only one who found him through FriendFeed.
- Bruce Lewis
I'm leaving my account here for now but I'll be removing all my feeds.
- Got80s
I have no idea where to go...
- Johnny
Let's make the longest thread in FF history
- Stephen Pickering
Anyway, for the rest of today at-least I reckon I'll be off FriendFeed - real conversation is being drowned out by the echoes of this deal.
- Edward Coffey
Damn it. Why is Arrington always right!
- Stephen Pickering
Jeff P. Flickr is different Yahoo bought them for their user base. Facebook bought Friendfeed for their features.
- Bryan Lee
Got80: why do that? Who cares if your feeds are going in here?
- Robert Scoble
Edward: that is true. It caught us all off guard and we're still processing it.
- Robert Scoble
Kind of huge things in this time,.hmmm
- harri78son
Facebook bought FF for Paul Bucheit
- Stephen Pickering
I'm staying here until there is a reason to leave. Though I don't hold out hope they'll keep the service alive forever... obviously, I'm always enjoysthin.gs too, but it's not quite the same. I REALLY can't see myself using facebook as much as FF though.
- Ted Roden
I need an adult beverage. then I'll trash the place...
- Kelly Mitchell
I despise FB. Please let them not just trash FF.
- Adam Webb
Considering the free Google Wave protocol implementation and ejabbered work together, it shouldn't be too hard to quickly build a FF type service that's scalable. Combine that with EC2 and S3 and you could probably get a lot of runway before funding is needed. Robert, I think the next service you switch to should be part owned by you, considering I bet a lot of the traffic here was originated from you evangelizing.
- Chip Ramsey
Bryan: it's worse than that. I'm hearing that Facebook bought FriendFeed for its team. Google Superstars. Makes Zuckerberg get out his wallet.
- Robert Scoble
Where will be the next pasture Mr. Scoble?
- Rami Taibah
Stephen: lol. Yes, the 50 million dollar man. But seriously, there's no doubt what they really want is the tallent.
- Brandon Titus
I'm gutted about this, but I knew that Virb account would come in handy eventually... sorta... maybe...
- Linda Mills
Holden, yeah, but it doesn't make sense to invest energy here when its eventually going to die anyway
- Stephen Pickering
I'm new on FF so I wonder, are people leaving FF because you'll have to use FB to participate?
- Christopher Doiron
Stephen: not only for Paul. The guy who started Google Talk is at FriendFeed. So is the guy who started Google Maps.
- Robert Scoble
Among other ex-Google superstars.
- Robert Scoble
Robert your not processing anything from what I see..Your just gonna dump it...thanks...makes us All feel so much better....Salt in a wound?
- Bill Heslin
Christopher, it's that the FriendFeed team's new bosses will turn priorities away from the site we love.
- Bruce Lewis
They'll probably cannibalize FriendFeed... nom nom
- Kelly Mitchell
funny how many people are joining friend feed on the news of this acquisition. i'm seeing lots of my twitter followers starting to join.
- mark silva
Go where, do what?
- frankiecarl
I say its WAAAYYY too early to speculate what will happen to friendfeed next. Let the drama of today die down.
- Bryan Lee
Yeah lets all get drunk and start a fight. This whole thing is hilarious to me. Funny how media can start a panic. I ain't goin no where, I like to coloring.
- Jeunelle Foster
Bill: I said I won't leave until I hear more from the team. Why must you always be a drama queen?
- Robert Scoble
Kelly, I wish they would absorb FriendFeed, but despite the talk I don't think openness and Facebook are compatible.
- Bruce Lewis
Robert, Ex-Google Superstars is how I see it too. I don't see big plans for FF the sense was we were the last thing on their minds.
- Melanie Reed
Can't help being an attention whore, its what I'm good at :)
- Jeunelle Foster
Okay so we sit tight and wait and drink. lol
- Kelly Mitchell
but there is no time to wait a special direction on internet, It's too fast!!
- harri78son
Kelly: My analogy for this is like the female praying mantis luring the male for sex, then it bites its head off. You can see the pic in my story http://bryansays.com
- Bryan Lee
I'm in the eyewear business and so I always know how to make a spectacle of myself :)
- Jeunelle Foster
Bruce: I agree. Wouldn't it be feasible for them to simply keep the two properties separate then? FriendFeed would be the open/public portion of Facebook and Facebook could stay closed and keep its current private user base.
- Brandon Titus
Bryan, pretty graphic and right on the money.
- Kelly Mitchell
Why shouldn't he pull out his wallet. FB needs to monetize. The ex Google Rockstars know just how to do that
- Stephen Pickering
I'll stick around and see what happens, but might not bother so much with another 'social' web site again.
- Grant Bierman
:) I am what I am Robert...I'm A DRAMA QUEEN? LOL that's funny....even though I'm a much better queen than you I still wuvs ya...Still processing all this as everyone else is...Sorry...might be shooting from the hip and I shouldn't
- Bill Heslin
Am I the only one excited to see how Facebook integrates FF? I have hundreds of FB friends that I know personally, yet know nobody that I am "friends" with on FF or Twitter. FB has my friends but I'd love FF's functionality.
- Christopher Annunziata
There's this optimistic talk about keeping FriendFeed around as R&D. I'm skeptical about it.
- Bruce Lewis
I'll leave FriendFeed as soon as there's somewhere to go to; currently, I'm not convinced there is.
- Tristan Seligmann
Also when you are hanging with the Master of the Universe for four hours, its sort of like Bill Clinton going to Korea. Kind of influences you.
- Stephen Pickering
Rami: I don't know. That's why I'm talking with you. I just know I won't continue to invest my time in something that will soon get no more investment. That's not who I am. I will hang out with Louis Gray until he finds something cool. By the way, someone gave me Google Wave already, thanks!
- Robert Scoble
This should be a reality television show. This is where the real drama queens will come out to play.
- Jeunelle Foster
Leo's going to need a new show, TWIF
- Stephen Pickering
This week in Facebook
- Stephen Pickering
Anyone here ever feel like we're just being tossed around from website to website by the big players?
- Christopher Doiron
Thanks Kelly :)
- Bryan Lee
Chris, Yep
- Stephen Pickering
Bruce: I disagree with you about Facebook and openness. They are a lot more open than they used to be and are MUCH more professional and friendly than, say, Twitter is.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I look forward to your review of Wave.
- Bruce Lewis
Openness and Facebook are not one and the same.... polar opposites. Bah humbug.
- Kelly Mitchell
Yup the big dogs are sitting back laughing at this whole thing
- Jeunelle Foster
It doesn't necessarily have to be "R&D" but really a completely separate product. Something like YouTube is to Google. Although that's a terrible analogy...I guess the products are too similar to keep separate.
- Brandon Titus
I'd pay-per-view to see Scoble and Sebastian Bach fight
- Mattb4rd
The Chinese government is much more open than it used to be. It still doesn't meet my standards.
- Bruce Lewis
Bruce: also, Zuckerberg is seeing the real money is in search. So he HAS to be open to really do great there.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Any chance you could share your Wave address?
- Brandon Titus
Did anyone get a chance to see Youtube HTML 5 Demo?
- Stephen Pickering
Brandon: I don't have my own address. Someone gave me theirs so can't share.
- Robert Scoble
Zuckerberg doesn't make money from other companies' search engines, so he's still limiting what data can go out. I see FB getting more open about what data they take in.
- Bruce Lewis
Bruce: Wave is very geeky. I think the UI has a lot of FriendFeed's problems x10. We'll see how that first impression sticks.
- Robert Scoble
And Wave will only be as good as how many users it has
- Stephen Pickering
I guess what I'm trying to say is even if you don't think your time here is an not an investment ;anymore in anything Robert...We still, or at least I do, consider your input valuable. And if you were to jump ship too soon, I think we would all lose something. So, even if things don't look good...please hang around..That's what I meant to say...
- Bill Heslin
Where will I go? Probably no where. Friendfeed was the first time I really got to feel like I found a home. Other places don't interact and blend multiple social services like Friendfeed does/did. Just as plenty of other people have said, I'm waiting for Google Wave at this point. I'm already a Google whore, might as well wait for the Wave to come through.
- Matthew Horton
Bruce: data that goes out can be embedded on blogs and websites and interact with things. Also, if you get into Google's search engine you can get a LOT of traffic, which then you can monetize on your own service.
- Robert Scoble
Not necessarily nailing the coffin shut yet here. Going to hang around and see what develops....what seems likely at the moment may be a totally different thing tommorow :O)
- Jack Wilson, K4SAC
I am leaving at midnight. 2 accounts will be deleted, mine and one I manage for another site.
- April Russo (app103)
Robert: Hope you enjoy Wave! The UI is definitely way off for content sharing (at least in my first impression) and more suited for group communication for the very scenarios they threw out in the demos. Get much beyond that, or have too many people and the system starts to break down. Obviously, the underlying Wave infrastructure could be used to create something similar to and better than Friendfeed.
- Brandon Titus
Yeah, the cool thing about Wave is the problem they solved with the protocol. Not really their UI implementation. I think there are huge opportunities with both Open Social and the Wave protocol.
- Chip Ramsey
OK, I have been out of touch and I guess I missed something. I see nothing wrong with staying with all the feeds I am tied to!
- Dave Sickmeier
April, please don't delete your account. We lose interesting history when people do that.
- Bruce Lewis
I'm sticking around.
- Nation Hahn
There is no Facebook and no FriendFeed, it is now called TwoFacedFriend...
- Kelly Mitchell
Bill: I'll be around but probably a lot less. Actually I was thinking that this was good timing. We have a new baby due in September and my other son is just starting to learn to talk, so want to spend more time hanging around with the family.
- Robert Scoble
I am gonna wait it out. If the community as a whole migrates I will go with them, but I don't want to overreact.
- Neal Jansons
it's time to have another serious look at Plaxo. There are some very clever people there too, I believe?!
- Matt Hooper
Truth is, being addicted to FriendFeed isn't a good lifestyle.
- Robert Scoble
Well said Robert
- Kelly Mitchell
April: why so sudden and why delete accounts? I don't get that.
- Robert Scoble
As you should. Family is much more important than any of this. And now I have to go fix my wig! LOL
- Bill Heslin
depends what they do with the service - I like friendfeed and facebook so I think it will probably work okay for me
- Nick Stone
Brandon: oh, oh. You said it "Wave doesn't scale." Not good.
- Robert Scoble
FF also has good tools for using it in moderation -- best of day, week, which you can get by email. Lists help.
- Bruce Lewis
I have been spending most of my time on Brightkite. It's a smaller community and more fun. A better alternative than twitter or facebook.
- John C Ferron
Robert, and yes when he does that (Money in Search), it will change the playing field in lateral ways across the Internet, especially in ePortfolios and other like applications that don't need to be walled gardens
- Melanie Reed
Your right, Robert, but you would eventually learn to moderate your use, and a service like this is going to be needed
- Stephen Pickering
so much DRAMA
- Kevin Pruett
Kevin, the Drama is warranted
- Stephen Pickering
And Leo and Dick Debartolo are on the wine train, missing all this...I envy them...lol
- Bill Heslin
Will there ever be an app that just leaves facebook out of the equation - we could only dream
- Ryan Gerritsen
i'm leaving, watching from twitter would be a better option for me.
- rama mamuaya
I am not likely to invest time in another community that I don't have a stake in. If I contribute it will be because I have a personal interest and am part of the team that runs the show. That is the only way I will feel comfortable investing my time & energy into it.
- April Russo (app103)
If we could get the other "Rock Stars" who are obviously having a "virtual prayer meeting" somewhere to get together and talk about what changes they wish to see and what they would like to see develop for social media, Twitter, Facebook, Friendfeed and now this Google Wave, we would probably all feel a little better as we might be able to see down the dark cold tunnel but they're out...
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- Jeunelle Foster
i think that I'll keep posting to friendfeed until it fully integrates with facebook
- Carlos Leiva Burotto
Did you guys see Dave Winer's URL shortner, http://rp.ly? Genius.
- Stephen Pickering
Jeunelle: Rizzn and Louis Gray and I did a podcast earlier where we talked through some of our feelings. It was very, um, theraputic.
- Robert Scoble
hahaha I must of missed it, I'll dig it up. A bit quiet still though. Haven't heard peep from Chris Brogan and all them other STARS
- Jeunelle Foster
Louis's blog post was classic.
- Bruce Lewis
Man, I can understand Louis' feelings. Look how much he and Scoble have put into this
- Stephen Pickering
I'll continue to use FF until there's reason not to. I'm patient enough to see what happens to it. What's the hurry?
- Cathryn Hrudicka
I just started on Friendfeed. It can't go away!
- Paul McElligott
Lets start FeedFriend - the Bizaro friendfeed minus Facebook integration
- Ryan Gerritsen
Well, I was rather hoping for some sort of joint deal between Twitter & FF... I'm not sure if I'll stick around in FF or not. I'm definitely not a fan of Facebook
- Tim Bergman
Paul, that's what so frustrating. Just given time, we know it would have caught on
- Stephen Pickering
I'm staying...
- Luis
Thanks for feeding the flames, there, Scoble. *WHAT* on earth is so scary about all this?
- Brad McCrorey
Brad, FF has died. Scoble made this thing. And what does he get out of it? Nuttin
- Stephen Pickering
Was this the Exit Strategy? I don't see how FF makes money right now?
- Keith Rowland
Stephen: I got you all as friends.
- Robert Scoble
:-)
- Stephen Pickering
This really SUCKS because when you don't have great "developers" to put something together like FriendFeed, you're really just gonna have to either take it up the ass or commit suicide. I'll hang myself 1st with all my clothes on :)
- Jeunelle Foster
Jeunelle HAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
- Stephen Pickering
I'm wherever good, smart peeps are ('cuz I'm not smart enough). I don't invest much in tools - it's the people I care for. I'm not gonna abandon FF now but I understand that we'll need a way to foster the kind of community that got fostered here. Nothing lasts forever - and that's mostly a good thing in the long run.
- phil baumann
from Android
i'll be here until either the bitter end or something else comes along ... i'm really hoping that the ff-team will turn facebook into more of what it was before the apps came along... i think that's when FB really took a downward turn for me
- Chris Heath
I follow the Cheese!
- Rich Weaver
Venues like this will come and go, the whole social media landscape is in a constant state of flux I don't see why so many are up in arms. The life cycle of all the current venues are short and most of the leaders are nearing the end of their lives as we know it. But fear not, many new shiny toys will be bestowed upon us to play with. Now let's be social again! (ps. I'm sure we've seen NOTHING yet!)
- Paul Monaco
Tweet: the cheese is in Zuckerberg's office! :-)
- Robert Scoble
And for anyone that wants to know why I am deleting my account and not just moving away and leaving it to rot like i would normally do...just read the policies of facebook. Anywhere I have an account with data I don't want to be exploited commercially, in a way that exploits me personally, I'd delete it just as fast if the service were bought by facebook.
- April Russo (app103)
Zuckerberg is Master of the Universe. He spent 4 hours with Paul Friday. That would have an effect on anyone
- Stephen Pickering
I know I am able to post status updates in Facebook to "Everyone" now, but when will we be able to search these open status updates?
- Kevin Whalen
from iPhone
I can't wait till my mom gets one of my "Queenie" updates....that's gonna b fun...lol..
- Bill Heslin
Kevin, when God, ie Mark Zuckerberg, says you can
- Stephen Pickering
I love FF but I think this is a great move. If FB takes the best ideas from FF and they open it up theres is so much potential for a great community.
- Gary Gannon
Definitely see what happens... Not looking forward to Facebook turning this into a free-for-all like Facebook :-)
- Maria Reyes-McDavis
Gary a potential for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
- Stephen Pickering
Not going anywhere for the time being. I'm not a big Twitter fan, and unless FB makes some big time changes, it just doesn't do it for me. Will be listening for any other social media that might come round the bend.
- Bonnie Foster
We are getting tired of all those constant platform changes, aren't we?
- Harald Felgner
Harald Yes!
- Stephen Pickering
I say we all leave Facebook instead.
- Larry Roth
Herald and Stephen, Yes! More and different is not always better, just more and different.
- Melanie Reed
I can't leave Facebook. I have too much built up there. And that won't do anything anways. It will just be a small blip to them.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
so what content aggregator in the absence of FF?
- WarLord
My apologies if this has already been asked, but Robert you are very close the FF team. You had no idea this was coming?
- Ben Hanten
I'm not leaving. I like FriendFeed and Facebook.
- Kimber Scott
Ben: not one iota. I did sense that they were struggling to figure out how to compete, but didn't think they would sell. Paul always told me he didn't want to sell.
- Robert Scoble
Robert - I'm confused - on the one hand you've said this is such a great thing for FF as well as FB - but on the other hand you also say you're leaving FF because of of it. Why - if this is such a great thing for FF?
- Matthew Blaisdell
WarLord: there isn't a good aggregator. That's why it's stupid to delete your feeds.
- Robert Scoble
OK, a friend talked me down. He told me I'd be saying sorry for starting this post by the 400th comment. He's usually right. So, instead of saying sorry, I'm going drinking. See ya in the lobby in 10 minutes!
- Robert Scoble
I may be dense about this, but why would you leave until you saw which way it was going?
- Jerry Kidd
Good question, Jerry. I wanna know this, too.
- Brad Williamson
Robert, I think he struggled with it, but 4 Hours with Mark is a big persuasion
- Stephen Pickering
Matthew: I expect that the engineers will get put onto Facebook. So, if the smartest people are working on Facebook and not on FriendFeed, why would I stay here? Why wouldn't I start moving my work and social graph and all that over to Facebook?
- Robert Scoble
LOL...there ya go Robert...I knew you would come around...Drink Drink!!! have a really nice cocktail...
- Bill Heslin
The people I've come to know on FriendFeed are what I'd miss though, so I'd like to take my social graph with me wherever I might end up next. There's a business opportunity right there.
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Dunno if I'll leave the ship...
- Wario
When I think about it - I found your post as well as the TechCrunch article via Google Friend Connect. So maybe it is time to join that Wave!?
- Harald Felgner
Jerry: I said I was going to wait until I talk with the team more, but the things I'm hearing tell me they've already been bought to work on Facebook proper. So, unless someone tells me that's wrong, that tells me I should spend more and more of my time over on Facebook and not here. But my friend convinced me I'm being hasty and emotional. :-O
- Robert Scoble
Mathew: Scoble said early on in this thread that he invests his time into emerging networks, not things that "are already here" I think thats why he will be moving on to the next big thing, like google wave or watchever new social network emerges out of this. I suspect that another startup will emerge to try and fill the shoes left behind by friendfeed. This is always the case. When napster left, you had morpheus and kazaa, then bit torrents.
- Bryan Lee
Robert - Makes sense - except that it still doesn't seem like a great day for Friendfeed - if it just gets abandoned (by FB as well as by leaders like you...)
- Matthew Blaisdell
Matthew: FriendFeed=Facebook. It's a great day for both. Cause I'll end up at Facebook either way! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Anyway, these are just the emotional ramblings of someone trying to figure out how the world shifted today. Have fun!
- Robert Scoble
clue to the denouement: where is the most valuable processing of this event. Right here.
- Steve Gillmor
I'm just curious what new startup will roll into the limelight because of this announcement?
- Bryan Lee
Robert, FriendFeed != Facebook - look at the quality of commentary/people here
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
FriendFeed can stop improving right now, and I'll still stick around until something else catches up. Maybe that something else will be Facebook. I'll wait and see.
- Bruce Lewis
I'm probably out. Back to open source for me at this point. Time to take another look and see how things have progressed with Laconica, JaikuEngine, NoseRub, and some of the other secondary options. I may also go crawling back to Twitter. Given a choice between Twitter and Facebook... sigh...
- Ken Sheppardson
++Steve Gillmor
- Bruce Lewis
Ken you'll be back.
- Steve Gillmor
I don't think FB will change it all so quickly. But I do like Laconica, too.
- Monique Hodgkinson
Steve you're making it hurt worse! ;-(
- Stephen Pickering
Monique: It's not about rapid change, it's about where to invest effort. I don't really have any interest in investing my time and energy on Facebook... so why wait?
- Ken Sheppardson
stephen how so
- Steve Gillmor
I don't know where to go :(
- K.D.
I'll make up my mind when I figure out what better alternative there is to Friend Feed.
- Anthony Teegarden
Because we know FF has died
- Stephen Pickering
Steve: Yeah, you're probably right. I appreciate the work Bret, Paul, Benjamin, et al have done, and I was really looking forward to where they were taking things... before they were taking it to Facebook.
- Ken Sheppardson
I think I will just stay on twitter, because I can't stand facebook.
- Tomy Thomson
Stephen: FF has died? Well, then, how am I typing to you?
- Robert Scoble
Tomy, why change? You can listen to the Beatles and the Stones!
- Stephen Pickering
Ken: it's all good. they're moving to a radically larger playground, and they can't afford to abandon those who appreciate them
- Steve Gillmor
They will keep FF just will make it better
- Johni Fisher
Choose I meant
- Stephen Pickering
Please stop with FF has died chatter!
- Bryan Lee
I'll wait to learn more before making any decisions
- Herb Hernandez
Robert, well, metaphorically. Whether its a few months or a year
- Stephen Pickering
Tomy: Twitter is like Facebook but without likes and comments. Oh, wait, Facebook is a lot like FriendFeed already. I just commented on Louis Gray's item there. Oh, and there's applications. We can play games! :-) Herb: I'll try to go see the team next week. I'm also interviewing Yelp.
- Robert Scoble
But Steve, what if the larger "playground" turns out to be very different from the one pitched to them? What if the FF team finds that their vision isn't shared after all?
- Bruce Lewis
Robert, ok maybe you are right. Maybe it will be like the R&D. That would be great!
- Stephen Pickering
Stephen: are you trying to get on the Gillmor Gang? We seem to kill things before they are really dead there too.
- Robert Scoble
Hey Robert , you make friendfeed slower ! I guess you should leave here really x)
- Melissa Taylor
Anyway, I'm going drinking. For real this time.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHA
- Stephen Pickering
they can go build it again. but zuckerberg has been wanting this for some time
- Steve Gillmor
need to wait what will happen to FF
- Toni @ NavinoT
I'm planning on easing out of Friendfeed in the next couple of days, so I can get the contacts of people I know on here and who's opinions I value.
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
Pickering: RSS is dead, not FF
- Steve Gillmor
Steve, oh yes, If I were him, I would pull out all stops to get this team. I totally understand from a business perspective, all perspectives
- Stephen Pickering
business is design
- Steve Gillmor
HAHAHA great comeback Steve. On that note I think I'll have a beer. :)
- Bryan Lee
Steve, OK, I'll keep the faith that maybe Scoble's idea that this could be a Facebook R&D could happen. That would be great!!!!
- Stephen Pickering
Steve, did you see the post about this being an opportunity for Google Reader? I think it was by Jorge Escobar.
- Bruce Lewis
Reading through all this is hilarious. We really should have a social media reality show Robert
- Jeunelle Foster
no bruce, how so
- Steve Gillmor
Jeunelle, Robert went drinking :)
- Stephen Pickering
So he ain't all that. Just kidding hehehehe :)
- Jeunelle Foster
He was saying Reader has most of the features of FF, and this could be their chance to expand and fill the niche FF filled: http://friendfeed.com/social-...
- Bruce Lewis
disagree bruce GR has no explicit contract with users
- Steve Gillmor
Contract or contact?
- Bryan Lee
Wave might be boosted, but has similar immaturity at the social graph level
- Steve Gillmor
I don't understand the part about the contract.
- Bruce Lewis
If Ning is 750m why FF is just 50m ?
- Johni Fisher
users consciously contribute metadata to FF
- Steve Gillmor
Do we want Google to buy Twitter?
- Stephen Pickering
@Steve @Bruce, here's the post http://jungleg.com/2009... -- it's a crazy idea but GR could make an extra effort and put up a better web experience
- Jorge Escobar
I like FriendFeed, a lot, but too few of my friends use the service to make it really useful. So I guess I'll leave.
- Adam Washington
Adam, stay, if even only for the aggregating features
- Stephen Pickering
You are testing us Scoble.
- Özer (Wrzl) Dölekoğlu
YES he's sitting in the back laughing while drinking Peppermint Schnaps
- Jeunelle Foster
Scobles outta here. He went to get a life! hehehehehehehe
- Stephen Pickering
totally staying....this really is just the beginning....and, i just built FF into all of my Intro to Soc sections!!!!
- Chad Gesser
I thought you said you'd hand in there until they turn the last server off. What changed your mind?
- Paul Chaney
Speaking of Google. What was the point of them buying Jaiku and doing nothing with it?
- Bryan Lee
I'll at least stay for aggregation and extending 140 character tweets, and pray maybe it will become Facebooks R&D, but I know that's a longshot
- Stephen Pickering
I should get a life too but alas the temptation is too great for "attention whoring"
- Jeunelle Foster
Jeunelle HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
- Stephen Pickering
hehehe lol
- Jeunelle Foster
Regarding the "team's plans", I really don't expect to hear anything from Bret, Paul, et al. At this point I'm happy to let the Facebook (i.e. the non-FriendFeed) folks try to convince me that they're ready to do things differently. That involves more than just hiring a team.
- Ken Sheppardson
Well, maybe Paul can influence Mark not "to be evil"
- Stephen Pickering
those who think FB has any choice but to go down the FF road are not thinking this through
- Steve Gillmor
@Stephen, I was alternating between friendfeed and twitter (stones and beatles, respectively :P) but I don't see the point in staying with a dying technology, which unfortunately is where friendfeed is headed. The tech of friendfeed itself will hopefully live on in facebook. I really think facebook has become a slightly less obnoxious version of myspace, and that's being nice.
- Tomy Thomson
Steve, Oh, I totally understand. It was genius of them. Proves how Mark is indeed Master of the Universe
- Stephen Pickering
Steve, self-interest does not guarantee anything. People and companies can act irrationally.
- Bruce Lewis
So Steve, do you see two separate properties indefinitely? Or does Facebook just slowly start too look more FF-like, then one day they redirect friendfeed.com to facebook.com?
- Ken Sheppardson
yes bruce take twitter for example
- Steve Gillmor
But Paul could end up being a great influence on Mark
- Stephen Pickering
not indefinitely Ken, but long enough to transfer enough value to avoid making twitter look like the good guys
- Steve Gillmor
Steve, will Google buy Twitter?
- Stephen Pickering
you're "VERY excited" about the deal, but plan to leave friendfeed? why, exactly? i don't get it...
- Shawn C. Reed
dunno, don't really care
- Steve Gillmor
*eye roll* thread is getting to the point where it's too long and people are now asking questions that have been answered thrice.....Lock down time.
- Matthew DeVries
ff was the important value, not twitter
- Steve Gillmor
Steve, why didn't Ff take over FB? Yeah Facebook has the money, but it's the inferior product.
- Matthew DeVries
Oh sure, who do you want in your office, Ev or Paul Bucheit? Paulllllll!
- Stephen Pickering
Stephen, didn't the TechCrunch article say that the FF team would be split between two bosses, neither of which was Mark?
- Bruce Lewis
matthew who says they didn't
- Steve Gillmor
That's right. Paul may end up running that thing, or at least be No.2
- Stephen Pickering
@ Robert: The majority of apps on FB are useless imo. Every time I log on I get bombarded by 'add your relative' and 'blackjack' app requests. And don't get my started on the quizzes and other BS. Ah well, I will join your fan page on facebook!
- Tomy Thomson
ff has been running dev for a year
- Steve Gillmor
Wow - isn't this jumping to conclusions? No one has said anything's going away, nor do we know what they're doing to do with it. Stick around, wait to see what happens, then jump. Nothing's happened yet - I think it will all be for the better in the end and you'll know where to go when the FF Team says Jump.
- Jesse Stay
Kurt, he's gonna sit on it for a while, see what shakes out
- Stephen Pickering
jesse skip to the bottom for the apology
- Steve Gillmor
The FF Team hasn't let us down yet, have they? I still trust them - only when they break that trust do we jump.
- Jesse Stay
@Scobleizer I've been on Google Wave for about a week working on an interesting idea I have for it. It's very promising but its very alpha right now. You won't find it worth your time just yet.
- Noah White
jumping is bullshit, no place to go
- Steve Gillmor
Ah - sorry Robert - didn't see the clarification towards the bottom. Thanks Steve.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, you still in the Boston area?
- Bruce Lewis
Why rush to judgment? Even if the "team's plans" are off-base, what's the base? And what's off? Experience, resourcefulness, respect for users and smarts under fire all matter more than "plans." Wait & keep seeing.
- Doc
What the hell? Just because someone buys FriendFeed everyone has to ditch it? ABORT SHIP, ABORT SHIP! Doesn't really make sense so soon. Has anything changed yet? Is it the end of the world? Don't just leave because everyone says they will either. Stick around, the ship is still afloat.
- Nick Humphries
the doctor is in the house
- Steve Gillmor
But, if they did pull the plug, with bandwidth and computing halving every year, there would be another one of these pop up in no time
- Stephen Pickering
I don't see a point in leaving Friendfeed until the doors close on us... if and when that happens.
- Alex Knight
Actually facebook is the most popular rss reader of all time :)
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
Bruce, we just left today. I'm actually in Niagara Falls, NY right now. Just finished watching a beautiful view of the Falls at night.
- Jesse Stay
There's a house?
- Doc
Steve, is that Doc Searls?
- Stephen Pickering
of cards
- Steve Gillmor
hover over the name stephen
- Steve Gillmor
Jesse, if anybody can persuade me (us?) that Facebook is going to be good for the FF team it's you. Maybe write a blog post or something.
- Bruce Lewis
Don't get so close.
- Doc
unfollow please sidney
- Steve Gillmor
Doc, Calacanis recommended your book to his audience on THis Week in Startups. Can't wait to read it!
- Stephen Pickering
I just left facebook a couple weeks ago - hope friendfeed doesn't devolve into quizzes and walled gardens
- Doug Holton
It's the Gillmor Gang in a perpendicular universe.
- Doc
yes it is
- Steve Gillmor
and about fucking time
- Steve Gillmor
Stephen, make sure it's the *new* 10th anniversary edition of Cluetrain. Both it and the old one are being sold. 8 extra chapters in the new.
- Doc
No doubt, Steve
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
I'm in it to win it. FF isn't shutting down tomorrow or next week. But it's funny to me that so many dicuss the content... It's the connections made with others that are in jeopardy, not the LOLCat photos...
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
from fftogo
Because of Quantum Wave effects there are an infinite number of Universes, some of which The Gillmor Gang is still broadcasting
- Stephen Pickering
Bruce, I'll be working on a post really soon. Also, Louis Gray and I are going to record a phone call about it tomorrow, which I think should prove useful. I've got a lot of knowledge about Facebook, and he does about FriendFeed.
- Jesse Stay
we never stopped stephen
- Steve Gillmor
Heheheheheheheheh
- Stephen Pickering
JFC, I was gonna go to bed, and here we are. Wherever this is. Do we all really live in Scoble's butt?
- Doc
Doc comes through with yet another metonym: the perpendicular universe (= FF).
- Nick in Manila
I would have had something out sooner but I've been driving a car all day. :-)
- Jesse Stay
no it's Marshall McLuhan's butt
- Steve Gillmor
Is this SRC?
- Doc
Kurt, oh yeah, I totally get that and so does Scoble, but you've got to understand his short term hurt. Look at how much energy he put into this thing, and what did he get? Nuttin
- Stephen Pickering
You mean McLuhan is in Scoble's body? He's in the movie Being Robert Scoble?
- Doc
Nonsense Stephen he gets paid in attention every single time
- Steve Gillmor
Social relay chat?
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
No who's on first
- Steve Gillmor
Scoble Relay Chat.
- Doc
the medium is the message
- Steve Gillmor
OK, OK, Steve. I admit, I listened to Dave Winer's chat this evening about it
- Stephen Pickering
yeah I read the liner notes instead
- Steve Gillmor
Confessions of Stephen and Steve
- Jeunelle Foster
And the medium is the network?
- Stephen Pickering
Are we paying Scoble now? Are we his excreta and are those a form of currency?
- Doc
as richard manuel used to say the check's in yr mouth
- Steve Gillmor
Doc, HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
- Stephen Pickering
I thought it was "the check is coming in your mouth." Just looking for accuracy here.
- Doc
no, doc it's a contraction of 2 of the 3 promises
- Steve Gillmor
I forget what the 3rd is
- Steve Gillmor
I'll love you in the morning?
- Doc
could be
- Steve Gillmor
Well, it's almost morning here. I'll tape this show and watch later. G'night or g'morning, all.
- Doc
Goodnight, Doc!
- Stephen Pickering
I was wondering how long this would take to happen. Soon as I saw FF being purchased by Facebook I knew you would bolt. Not 100% surprising.
- Christopher Mercer
Part of beauty of FF: all their shows are taped. And yet open ended.
- Nick in Manila
It depends how much FF changes. No reason to leave until and unless it gets annoying.
- Igor Goldkind
It's "I'll respect you in the morning."
- Sean Gallagher
Oh, I'm not leaving. Hell, I even still have a myspace account. It's just a question of engagement
- Stephen Pickering
Good night all. Tip for Jeunelle: You get more attention if you make your feed public. Make a group for your private stuff.
- Bruce Lewis
they'll have to scrub this one pretty good before they shut it down
- Steve Gillmor
Maybe Jeunelle doesn't want attention.
- Sean Gallagher
Hell, they keep Orkut going. Storage and bandwidth keep getting cheaper. Might as well keep this going
- Stephen Pickering
Orkut! The favorite social network of 9 out of 10 Brazilians.
- Sean Gallagher
And 9 out 10 of the best looking women!
- Stephen Pickering
True.
- Sean Gallagher
@scobleizer that means half of the total activity on friendfeed will be reduced
- Sidharth Dassani
Maybe if Facebook hadn't stolen all Scoble's data, he'd stop worrying and learn to love them.
- Sean Gallagher
Actually even os Brasileiros are coming over to FB
- Stephen Pickering
My mother is on Facebook. The end is nigh.
- Sean Gallagher
"Maybe Jeunelle doesn't want attention" - says who? I only stepped away to pour me a nice glass of Sauvengion Blanc", and thank you Bruce for the advice I'll look into that tomorrow. After all tomorrow is another day. Twiddly Dee
- Jeunelle Foster
there is no reason to leave. I seriously doubt facebook will kill it.
- Logan Lindquist
What's the record number of comments?
- Stephen Pickering
Logan, I hope your right
- Stephen Pickering
Maybe if I blog my twitter of Scoble's FriendFeed and then link it from Facebook via a Digg of a del.icio.us bookmark, it will create a singularity and this thread will have never happened.
- Sean Gallagher
What about Identi.ca?
- Jerry Heiselman
Sean, you may even create a time machine!
- Stephen Pickering
Can someone comment on what April Russo said about Facebook content policy? Seems like a very important piece of the puzzle.
- metalerik
I wouldn't worry about it. The markets will take care of it. If Facebook becomes evil, the masses will fork somewhere else. We're in the age of Openness
- Stephen Pickering
I will only leave friend feed if it becomes a facebook clone. I can't stand facebook but I still use it cause my friends and family use it, but if friendfeed becomes annoying like face book then I see no point in staying here.
- Colide81 (James)
from iPhone
James, Touche
- Stephen Pickering
You know Sean maybe smarter than he looks....hmmmmm :) and what's with that bird head?
- Jeunelle Foster
Quote of the Day: "Microsoft and Twitter deserve each other. They are both somewhat buggy and don't come up with new features very often. ;-)" - Robert Scoble
- Diego Barros
It's a starling fledgeling. The perfect symbol for social networking-- it eats whatever you give it, then poops on you.
- Sean Gallagher
That's what I want to reincarnate as....an angry poopin bird
- Jeunelle Foster
Just reading all the news about FF and FB. Disapoints me personally, biz wise nice job. Um not a huge FB user so I don't know what my plans are yet. Like you wait a bit and see....
- Bryan Thatcher
from iPhone
I hope FF doesn't go away and fold in to FB. I don't need FB. It's like bringing a machine gun to a knife fight.
- Diego Barros
I won't leave FF until they make me or there's no community left. Whichever comes first.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
We'll never get to talk to Robert Scoble again. :-(
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Well, it's made me think twice about vesting too much into any one service (so has the demise of tr.im). I use Facebook, Twitter, Livejournal, and FF all pretty equally, so I guess I'm not feeling this as much as some.
- Bill Kinney
on to Google Wave.
- Jason Wilson
from BuddyFeed
Jannifer, Yes we will on his JS-Kit Echo commenting system he will put on his blog. It's real time like this
- Stephen Pickering
I'm leaving. Google Wave, Twitter, Reader will plenty suffice now. Farewell, former friend.
- Californian
Oh Stephen - I'm not sure what that is... but it won't be like Friendfeed. :-(
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
At some point I imagine I will. I have no interest in joining facebook. When I do depends on what facebook does with ff.
- Quasar
I'm sticking around till FB screws it up. But I was keeping FF separate from FB because most of my FB friends are my born-again Christian relatives who won't like the controversial stuff of mine that makes it onto FF's news feed. Still, I'm going to look for other similar sites. Posterous is one.
- Dennis Jernberg
I really want a Google Wave invite now..
- Peter
I'm not leaving but I'm not moving to Facebook. The main thing for me is to keep the contacts I've gained from FriendFeed and hope we all can meet on another similar service somewhere somehow.
- Kol Tregaskes
Ditto what Kol just said.
- LogEx
ditto on the Google wave invite
- Kim
you hit the nail on the head there Kol
- Kim
Maybe. But i really want Google Wave invite.
- ★ Soner Gönül
It's hard to say at this point. The only thing that's changed is who pays the server bill. Ask me in a week. And yes, a Google Wave invite would sure go a long way to make this better for me.
- Dale
Joined Posterous. http://jbug.posterous.com Wouldn't mind a Google Wave invite, though...
- Dennis Jernberg
Me too, Dennis. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I don't leave if Facebook doesn't make something dramamatic to FF
- Kristian Salonen
I will wait and see.
- Matt G
Oh yeah, and I added my Posterous blog to my FriendFeed feed, so you'll be seeing whatever I post there in your home feed here. That is, if you subscribe to me here, or if one of your subscribers likes or comments. Me, leave? Not yet! ;)
- Dennis Jernberg
I'll be sticking around just a little while longer.
- April Russo (app103)
I'm here for the duration
- Charlie Anzman
I'm loyal until they make it worth me leaving.
- Jesse Stay
I'm here until they slam the gates shut. But I am hiding all your BS posts about it being a good thing :)
- jcunwired
If you want to be sure that I quit Friendfeed you have to see my burial. I will never quit while being alive! :-)
- Kolja
I'm staying but it's like when you know that the company you work for has been bought by someone else and might close it, you lose motivation and start looking for another job, it's hard to invest time and energy if there might be no future. Not that the future of FF was guaranteed before but now it does not look good at all.
- M F
I'm heading to Plurk! who's with me? *tumbleweed*
- Iain Baker
Like I said before, I'm staying here until the end.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Friendfeed is two totally different things: the original RSS aggregation service, and a social network service/community. Lifestream.fm is a reasonable replacement for the former. As to the latter, it's the people, not the tech they're using, that makes FF special. I've benefited greatly as a 'consumer' here, reading posts - if that continues on Facebook, it will probably get me to...
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- SteamCentral
i'll be around until it becomes unbearable, probly until it's been damaged badly by FB style feature creep and riddled with ads and spammers. oh, and absolutely stupid censorship policies. that'll be a real killer.
- Joe Silence is not dead
not leaving. NEVER hoho I haven't left FB nor friendser.
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
The CloneFeed group has given me some interest. It gives some hope in case FF really goes away or merges badly with FB. I like FB but just don't want to fully mix the two activities/audiences.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I'd rather keep my Friendfeed as my "professional aggregation" and Facebook as personal stuff. I blog, tweet, etc. stuff that a lot of my friends could care less about. And I post stuff to Facebook that isn't interesting or relevant to clients / followers.
- Gregg Le Blanc
Google Wave is what I am looking for. The problem with moving to Facebook is that I use it for close friends and family so things like comments and pics etc that I post to it I would not want to have available to all of the contacts I have on FF at the moment. Mainly because I like to separate those I know from those that I converse with if that makes sense. I loved that on FF I could...
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- Travis Koger
Whilst I am not 'leaving' FF, I will not be investing anywhere near the type of interaction I have done previous to yesterday's announcement as I just see it as wasted time.
- Travis Koger
I have to wait & see what, I don't want to lose the community; where do I go? This feels like Pownce all over!
- clarke thomas
not me.
- Edward Barnieh
Nope, not yet. I still dream about FF and FB to coexist. I think Facebook is even more boring now, after this announcement. Anyone else feels this way?
- Patrik Johansson
Not me. I will be glad when all the people who say they are leaving do so my feed won't be full of people saying they are leaving.
- Alan Simpson
What becomes of the broken hearted?
- Joe Dawson
I'm staying on!
- Charles Lau
FF is my first big social networking investment (or time) - I'll stay and then move, if forced. I'll certainly investigate other tools in an effort to fill any gap left by FaceFeed.
- Jason Miller
I just saw that a woman's twittering her childbirth made the front page of BBC's world news webpage. I don't know to make of it, but I don't want to hang out at Twitter much anymore.
- Mitch
Mitch: we Twittered our childbirth in 2007 and we will again in September, but probably not on our main account.
- Robert Scoble
won´t leave!!! i LOVE friendfeed. @Mitch i know what you mean. So many stories and this is the one they picked?
- Flynn (Michael A. Volz)
i think i'm stayin, and wait what's goin on facebook. i will feel upset if they dont allow the users to make their choice of using one or other site, but looks like they gonna force to use FB instead of FF :(
- Dani Martínez
Not sure how on board with FriendFeed I ever was to begin with to be honest...
- Gurpreet
FriendFeed will be fine - FaceBook is fine - and so is Twitter - I might check out AmpliFeeder, I suspect quite a few FriendFeeders will migrate there as the days go by.
- Chris Loft
Not leaving FF but I can't wait till it's properly integrated with Facebook. Interesting thing: Wave's API is open so there's nothing to stop Facebook creating an app to make Facebook & Wave work great together. Not so much either/or as and... and..!
- Matt Moran
Has anyone tried amplifeeder? edit: so far don't see any friending abilities though
- metalerik
Why leave? But will be open to see other options - facebook doesn't (currently) provide to me what I get here.
- amygeek
Facebook bought friendfeed http://adage.com/digital...
- Rob Johnson
OH NO, I just finish moving all my stuff HERE!
- Terence
Robert: I closed down my embeds today. Sad for my blog.
- Mark Essel
I stay on FriendFeed, on Twitter, on Facebook, etc.
- Emmanuel Gadenne
I won't delete my account, but as FF morphs into the ball of confusion that is Facebook, I won't be very active.
- Jeremy Brooks
I will. No point sticking around when you know it is going to die sooner or later. With twitter you still have the hope....
- Davide D'Incau
I'll leave Facebook if FF gets harmed. And go back to Identi.ca... ;-)
- Torrid Luna
Yeah, I'll probably leave Facebook too. If they're going to "steal" the FriendFeed functions and just let FF die, I will not have any sympathies left for Facebook. I'll go "all Google" or something.
- Patrik Johansson
I'll stay on FF, FB and T, and BK, and other, BrightKite is not well utilised, is good even on beta.
- Andy Ghozali
I joined posterous for blogging/lifestreaming and will continue to use twitter. I might go on facebook once in a while, which is what I was doing anyway.
- Tomy Thomson
Robert: If you're looking for an awesome real-time discussion platform, you should migrate to Fluther. http://www.fluther.com
- Ben
I'm staying put and watching the ship sink. I'd really like to believe that FriendFeed will have some longevity, but I won't hedge my bets.
- Tyson Key
Steve Gillmor said "clue to the denouement: where is the most valuable processing of this event. Right here." so for now, FF looks like the space.
- Barbara K. Iverson
I intend to stick around to see what Facebook have planned. I think the takeover has everything to do with the direction FB's been heading in lately, what with their open challenge to Twitter
- Dennis Jernberg
I don't see it as leaving, but rather seeing the possibility that it might leave us. FF was and still is just about my favorite site and uberaggregatorthing that I ever saw....
- Rob Schieber
+100 Rob Schieber
- Tyson Key
I will stay. Facebook will not Win.
- TheHenry
Nope... I'll stay, even if I ride it to a bitter end.
- Mark "DerBingle" J
depends. if they stay seperate services, i wont like the acquisition,but i'll stay. if they become 1 service, i'm out. and where is every1 going from friend feed anyhow. what else is there?
- echostreamer
Will wait and see what happens with FB
- Ted Kinzer
fb ruins everything. Have the Privacy policy "not "changed since fb came into the pic? Can they not build their own ideas instead of buying everyone else's? leave us geeks to play in our playground and stay in yours. greedy buggers. The second they pull a skanky fb move i'm out. bitches.
- seastarerrin
I'm here till the ship goes down.
- Lee Watters
Leaving no. Checking out other venues yes.
- Martha
Just maybe Facebook will listen to the Friendfeed engineers in charge of user interface/usability starting with the type size and fonts. Not all marriages are made in heaven. Culture clashes are sure to pop up.
- Alan Morris
I am leaving Web - Back to Telnet
- Dominique Rabeuf
Dominique, too late. The web already assimilated it with the telnet: url schema.
- Bruce Lewis
OK so only snmp/ssh
- Dominique Rabeuf
Hell no, not leaving. Best service on the web.
- Christopher Galtenberg
from iPhone
gonna ride this one out to shore.
- Sean Oliver
hu?
- Dries Grobler
back to blogs :-)
- Mostafa Lameei
I was about to focus a little more on FF but since I heard about the purchase and read rumors about FF being integrated in FB and being shutdown and all this, I'm getting a little ... well.. undecided.. Just checked Streamy, didn't like it. If a.tinythread.com get's more development, this might be the next thing to migrate to. I'm sure not moving to FaceBook. I have my account, I have...
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- Dan van Moll
Minitel 3815 (?)
- Dominique Rabeuf
Not interested in being part of Facebook. Goodbye, FriendFeed. :-(
- TranceMist
I wish more folks would see the big picture. We need to focus on independent projects that are NOT part of the Google-Yahoo-Microsoft borg. As soon as a site gets absorbed it is time to find another independent site. Yes, I do realize that some may have actually been part all along and only pretending they were independent in the first place - especially if they were founded by...
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