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ProsePetals (aka Denise)
I decided to share this in the US Politics thread, as well, because from my perspective it is a subject that should be discussed. The current health reform bill debates are hotly discussing abortion, with the understanding that the next item on the chopping block is contraception (at least from certain groups *sigh*) -- but funny this...vasectomies were not mentioned. While this article is informative in nature, the political question was one that I continued to ponder from a different scope than I addressed within the article. - ProsePetals (aka Denise)
I wonder what people who are shouting for yanking away the choice for women's reproductive benefits, think of vasectomies?! - Rene Wirtz
I think it's a mixed bag. There are a lot of misconceptions about vasectomies all by itself without any political implication. However, as applicable to contraception, I suspect certain groups think of it as just as much of a "sin" as any contraceptive choice afforded to women. Not to put too fine a point on it, I suspect it doesn't come up too much in discussion because men have always benefited historically from having the freedom of choice...*shrug* Just my thoughts. - ProsePetals (aka Denise)
I would imagine it isn't talked about much because it isn't thought about much. Most contraceptives are temporary, and therefor the main focus is availability. Vasectomies and hysterectomies are permanent contraception, so once it's done there's not much to say. There are medical reasons for a woman to have a hysterectomy, so I doubt there would be too much attention put on them. Vasectomies I think would be something men don't want to talk about because it makes them squeamish. - Heather
That's an interesting perspective - though I will say I don't equate hysterectomy with vasectomy. Hysterectomy is *removal* of specific reproductive parts that also can result in enormous hormonal changes -- I equate vasectomy in men with tubal ligation in women. Still yet, comparatively, the permanent contraceptive surgery is *so* much safer for men...it surprises me that given a... more... - ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Kind of weird that vasectomies fly under the radar despite their effectiveness as birth control and inherent squickiness for guys. Maybe political types assume that a REAL AMERICAN MAN wouldn't want one? - John (a.k.a. dendroica)
I strongly suspect that is a greater likelihood, actually. Birth control, like everything related to pregnancy, has pretty much been consigned to women since the dawn of time. *shrug* Funny, though, how little a vasectomy actually changes *anything* in a man...(pun unintended)...the ONLY thing it changes is sperm-ability to escape the body...lol - ProsePetals (aka Denise)
RAPatton
January Jones GQ Outtake, Photo by Terry Richardson — It is nice to see her smile - http://pattonroberta.tumblr.com/post...
January Jones GQ Outtake, Photo by Terry Richardson
 
— It is nice to see her smile
what'll come of Betts in Season 4 of Mad Men?? - T. Brent, technopeasant
Anna Haro
robot, thank you for the best birthday EVER!!! - Anna Haro
You're welcome :-* and looking forward to many more!!! - ·[▪_▪]·
Happy Birthday! (belatedly!) <3 - Yolanda
thanks, Yo! <3 - Anna Haro
awwwwww! NICE ONE Bot!!! :-D Glad you guys had fun! Happy B-Day again, A1! :-)) - Live4Emma (L4S)
thanks, hermano! :-)) - Anna Haro
Happy belated Birthday, Anna! :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Happy Birthday! - Adrian
thanks, Adrian! :-) - Anna Haro
<3 - Mo Kargas
Happy Birthday! Like the kissy picture! - Trish Haley
Happy Birthday! (better late than never) - A.T.
thanks, all!!! :-)) - Anna Haro
Happy Birthday! (Belatedly... no, you're birthday was right on time... it's just my birthday wish that's belated... am I overexplaining?) - Mark Jepsen
Happy (belated) Birthday! That pucker is compelling... - MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
Happy belated birthday! - Shevonne
Happy belated birthday, Haro. <3 - DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
thanks, momo <3 - Anna Haro
Compelling. That's a good word for it. MWAH. - Ha3rvey (more more more)
Awww...feliz cumple! :D - JA Castillo
Happy Birthday! - Anne Bouey
Happy belated birthdAy, Anna. :)) - edythe from iPhone
big bear is awesome, happy bday! - Rachael Depp
Happy birthday, chica! <3 - Carmen
I cannot take it any longer *risks the robot* muuuuah :) - Michael W. May
Steven Perez
Jesus killed Mohammed: The crusade for a Christian military—By Jeff Sharlet (Harper's Magazine) - http://www.harpers.org/archive...
"The rest of that Easter was spent under siege. Insurgents held off Bravo Company, which was called in to rescue the men in the compound. Ammunition ran low. A helicopter tried to drop more but missed. As dusk fell, the men prepared four Bradley Fighting Vehicles for a “run and gun” to draw fire away from the compound. Humphrey headed down from the roof to get a briefing. He found his lieutenant, John D. DeGiulio, with a couple of sergeants. They were snickering like schoolboys. They had commissioned the Special Forces interpreter, an Iraqi from Texas, to paint a legend across their Bradley’s armor, in giant red Arabic script. “What’s it mean?” asked Humphrey. “Jesus killed Mohammed,” one of the men told him. The soldiers guffawed. JESUS KILLED MOHAMMED was about to cruise into the Iraqi night. The Bradley, a tracked “tank killer” armed with a cannon and missiles—to most eyes, indistinguishable from a tank itself—rolled out. The Iraqi interpreter took to the roof, bullhorn in hand.... more... - Steven Perez from Bookmarklet
Dear Senator Quisling: maybe after you're done rooting out Islamic terrorists in the military, you might want to consider doing something about these idiots. Up Yours, Me. - Steven Perez
Yeah. Religious Extremists vs. Religious Extremists = A self-propelled Armageddon. - ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
So does this make it the Tenth Crusade? - Victor Ganata
I'm sure this was OK with Senator Quisling, once Pastor Hagee told him that it was all good. - Steven Perez
I can't believe the interpreter agreed to do that. - rowlikeagirl
Given the mentality of the soldiers in action, how much greater would the risk to the interpreter been had he not agreed to go along with it? - ProsePetals (aka Denise)
That is true, Denise. His health was probably in danger by his enemies *and* friends. :((( - rowlikeagirl
Holy crap, but this just brings to mind a quote from the 'Grim Meathook Future': "a giant game of Counterstrike between crazy faith-ridden jihadist motherfuckers and crazy faith-ridden American redneck motherfuckers". - Michael R. Bernstein
And we all said amen. - ProsePetals (aka Denise)
welcome to the military after Dubya filled to the brim with born again activists and ne-nazi white supremists all in training for the big day. You know when they can unleash the crusade HERE! - WarLord
No one expects the American Inquisition. - Victor Ganata
Steven Perez
Think Progress » The Future Is Chaos: GOP Threatens Retribution Against Cao For Health Care Vote - http://thinkprogress.org/2009...
Think Progress          » The Future Is Chaos: GOP Threatens Retribution Against Cao For Health Care Vote
"I read the versions of the House [health reform] bill. I listened to the countless stories of Orleans and Jefferson Parish citizens whose health care costs are exploding — if they are able to obtain health care at all. Louisianans needs real options for primary care, for mental health care, and for expanded health care for seniors and children. [...] I have always said that I would put aside partisan wrangling to do the business of the people. My vote tonight was based on my priority of doing what is best for my constituents." - Steven Perez from Bookmarklet
Before yesterday I hadn't heard of the man. Today, I'm wishing more politicians (regardless of political party or platform) had his cajones. - ProsePetals (aka Denise)
fyi he's got a great story: Vietnam refugee at age 8, wins the House seat of a 9-term incumbent in last year's election: "He is only a recent convert to the Republican Party, having been a registered independent for most of his adult life, and has no position — at least not one he cares to share yet — on President-elect Barack Obama’s agenda. His politics seem less a matter of ideology than of low-key temperament and a Jesuit-inspired desire to “help and serve people,” as he put it." - Christopher Chung
I, for one, have tremendous respect for the man. He is more of a maverick than McCain ever could hope to be. Good fo Cao to not toe/tow (?) the party line and for flushing out the hysterical racists in his party. - Rene Wirtz
Müjdat Korkmaz
Babamın çok hoşuna gitmişti. Aldım ona, güneşle doldurup doldurup kullandı yaz boyunca ışık ve süs amaçlı:) - Pelin Hazar
Çok güzel ama, ben de almak istiyorum. Gördüğüm ilk yerde kapıcam hemen bir kaç tane :) - Müjdat Korkmaz
Bir kaç tane dedim de pahalıymış bu meret :)) - Müjdat Korkmaz
:)) - Pelin Hazar
45 lira - irfan ÖZTÜRK
hepsiburada.com da da vardı - irfan ÖZTÜRK
cool site - VAL D.
@irfan; Pek araştırmadım ben. Pelin'in verdiği linke baktım sadece. Daha uygun bir fiyata bulunur mutlaka. - Müjdat Korkmaz
linkini verdiğim site benzeri 3-4 sitede fiyat aynı.. - Pelin Hazar
bi sitede 35 liraya vardı ama kalmadı. - irfan ÖZTÜRK
@irfan; O fiyata kalmaması normal sanırım. Üç beş yere baktım şimdi 45-50 TL arası fiyatlar. - Müjdat Korkmaz
Dünya'nın sonu geLiyor gibi oLsaydı aLınabiLirdi ama Lav LambaLarı var onLar $imdiLik daha efektif zannımca. - Caner Özdemir
Numan Arda Çebi
Kadın ve fotoğraflar sanki bir rus romanından çıkmış gibiler ancak bazı fotoğraflar hemen bu düşüncemden sıyrılmama neden oluyorlar :)) - melih
Daniela Blanco
Fwd: Fwd: Really impressive artwork by Daniela Uhlig on "Unstage: Inspiration Everywhere" - http://www.unstage.com/2009... / this is the link to her portfolio site: http://danielauhlig.blogspot.com/ - you can see for yourself what I'm calling "really impressive" :) (via http://friendfeed.com/daniela...) (via http://friendfeed.com/art-roo...)
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Jeff P. Henderson
Numan Arda Çebi
JA Castillo
Melissa
Baby Bella on Flickr - Photo Sharing! - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
Baby Bella on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
I think I just beat tiffany with this photo. SO CUTE. - Melissa from Bookmarklet
x_x Vegas just rolled her eyes at me. - Derrick
LOL! - Melissa
the little legs kill me - Melissa
now *that* is teh cute! - jbrotherlove
Hmph. She's aight. - tiffany from Android
Awww. - Kol Tregaskes
AGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ... *thud* X_X - Yolanda
Yo, make room for me... *dead* - Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
Hi !! - Keiko Yamada
omg, too f'ing cute - Chieze Okoye
Zee.
Facebook Chat Coming to Gtalk, Jabber Imminently - http://thenextweb.com/appetit...
Facebook Chat Coming to Gtalk, Jabber Imminently
Nice I wonder if this means it will make its way to pidgin, soon - Curtiss Grymala from iPhone
There is a Facebook plugin for Pidgin - http://code.google.com/p... - Stoyan Zhekov
If only it worked, and was stable enough to rely on : / - Clark Baumgartner 蔵明 馬武刀
Clark do you mean facebook chat is not reliable? I use palringo http://palringo.com on phone and pc and have problems with facebook chat. - David Gross from email
Can hardly wait. - Vezquex: God of FF
Numan Arda Çebi
Ha ha! :D - Mert Kızılırmak
:) - erdemir
Çok iyi :D - Ramazan Utku
Correct! She has a DualShock2 Analog Controller. - Hisateru Tanaka
hohohohohoo :D - Mehmet Sayın
Gülmekten gözümden yaş geldi. =) - Mustafa Yalçın
işte ilayda nineler aynen böyle olacak :D - esra öndev
hahaha :) - • sahika
Esra, yorumuna epey güldüm. Kesinlikle öyle. Nine-torun savaşları farklı bir boyut kazanacak. :) - Numan Arda Çebi
Ceren Şekerci
Brian Sullivan
imabonehead
5 Google Wave Gadgets that You Will Most Likely Use - http://www.rotorblog.com/2009...
5 Google Wave Gadgets that You Will Most Likely Use
5 Google Wave Gadgets that You Will Most Likely Use
5 Google Wave Gadgets that You Will Most Likely Use
"To make my Google Wave exploration useful, I decided to look around for Wave gadgets that I can use, and actually found a handful of them. So here goes, 5 Google Wave Gadgets that you will most likely use." - imabonehead from Bookmarklet
RAPatton
Deals for Winter and Spring Travel - WSJ.com - http://online.wsj.com/article...
Deals for Winter and Spring Travel - WSJ.com
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"Travelers looking for bargains on winter and spring vacations may want to act now: Those recession-era travel deals we have gotten used to are likely as good as they'll get. For the past year or so, many travelers have become accustomed to seeing hotel and resort rates progressively plummet. Savvy consumers waited until the last minute to snatch the deepest discounts. But, now, industry watchers say hotels and resorts have unloaded their sweetest offers early and hotel prices are likely to stay relatively stable during the next few months. By the middle of next year, they may even start to inch up. "I think we may have hit bottom," says Jan Freitag, vice president at Smith Travel Research. "There will still be deals permeating the general environment" in 2010, he says. "But they are not here to stay" throughout next year. But now there is a plethora of discounts for peak holiday and spring travel. Some of the best offers are in Mexico, where fears of the H1N1 flu are still damping... more... - RAPatton from Bookmarklet
"Some hotels are unloading deals earlier than usual, in an attempt to train travelers not to procrastinate. Through November, Marriott is offering 40% off at several hotels in the Caribbean, Mexico and Costa Rica for travel from Jan. 1 to April 30. The deal is designed to "generate advance bookings," says Chris Holter, regional vice president of revenue strategy for Marriott... more... - RAPatton
Virtual travel for me, but thanks :) - Véronique Rabuteau
Sefa Karapinar
deniz alpay
deniz alpay
Okan Vardarova
ağzına sinek kaçan kız "kendi" - http://www.kendiland.com/index...
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yalnız ben doa'yı da sevmiştim bunu da severim gibi geliyor hehe - Okan Vardarova
cok kotu be. - D. Eda Goze
sevimli görüküyor. - *renklerin içinde
Fulya
Natalie or Nothing, V #62.
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Shot by: Mario Testino, Model: Natalie Portman, Styled by: Claire Richardson. - Fulya
Sean McBride
Stephanopoulos and Ledeen: together in the most accountability-free profession | Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com - http://www.salon.com/opinion...
"Michael Ledeen is one of the most dishonest and ludicrous jokes on the political scene. Will that stop George Stephanopoulos from using Ledeen as an expert source on Iran? No, of course not, because once one obtains Seriousness credentials in Washington, they are irrevocable no matter one's conduct (other than petty sex scandals), and journalism is the most accountability-free profession that exists (which is how the person who did this, this and this can still be considered one of the nation's leading "experts" on the Middle East)." - Sean McBride from Bookmarklet
Andrew Terry
Canon EOS 7D - High ISO Noise results versus EOS 50D, EOS 5D Mark II and Nikon D300s - http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews...
"Canon's EOS 7D has already become one of the most talked-about DSLRs of 2009. Ahead of our full review, we're pleased to present our High ISO Noise results page, which compares the EOS 7D's output against the EOS 50D, EOS 5D Mark II and the Nikon D300s." - Andrew Terry
I was at the store today and played with the 7D for a bit. It was interesting. Liked the viewfinder. Nice frames per second. *very* loud shutter though!!! - See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
Dragon Goldmaplethorpe
We went mattress shopping today. We tested the mattresses by having heterosexual intercourse on them. I had so many orgasms. We did not buy a mattress.
I wouldn't mind coming on a shopping trip like that. - John (a.k.a. dendroica)
[rimshot] - Akiva Moskovitz
and people give ME the TMI signal. - Josh Haley from iPhone
I think liquid poop is higher on the TMI scale than public intercourse. - John (a.k.a. dendroica)
check out the w hotel mattress - fatwallet has 50% off codes - supposedly best bed out there... and like im sure those beds have been "tested" lol - Allen Stern
Sorry I am still just so happy from all of the orgasms that I experienced from having intercourse. - Dragon Goldmaplethorpe
Phil is a man. - Derrick
Pics or it didn't happen. :-O - Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
She never said she was shopping with Phil. - Akiva Moskovitz
Yeah I was just wondering how Phil got dragged into this. - Dragon Goldmaplethorpe
This is a new kind of thread. - Matthew DeVries
If you had wanted, could you have had homosexual intercourse during this shopping trip? - Internet's Tad
Dayum! I need a new mattress. Anyone want to go shopping with me? :) - Bill Heslin
*raises hand* - Derrick
Did they fail the "stain test"? - Lindsey is Fierce!
Phil just advised me that this thread is out of control. - Dragon Goldmaplethorpe
You haven't "tested" a mattress till you've "tested" a Tempurpedic mattress. ;) - Her Lindsay-ness
That's the kind we have now! :[ - Dragon Goldmaplethorpe
Ahem...*sleep number* ahem - Bren, Photophobe from iPhone
Women have ograsms? I thought that was a myth. - T. Brent, technopeasant
It can't be any sort of surprise to Phil that anything has got out of hand. - WorldofHiglet
With T. Brent on that one !!! - SCS Watching the Sun
btw, this post was brilliant. - Josh Haley
@Josh. This was TOO LITTLE INFORMATION. - teh Dork Knight
Do they still sell waterbeds? I'm going shopping. - Eric @ CS Techcast
WANT FOTOZE NAO! - Joe Silence is not dead
When I posted this I didn't realize it was based on you guys! http://friendfeed.com/search... (The store location must have been changed to protect the guilty.) - Mark Jepsen
Awkward. We tested a million mattresses (not with the sexmaking though) and ended up buying a beautyrest. I still love it. - Sumotuwe
RAPatton
Happy Wonder Woman Day! - Wonder Woman - io9 - http://io9.com/5388559...
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"Celebrated by two comic stores (one in Portland, OR and one in Flemington, NJ), Wonder Woman Day is a charity event offers signings and auctions benefiting domestic violence charities. Click through to see some of the art up for auction. Today is the fourth annual Wonder Woman Day, officially recognized by the city of Portland - Here's the official Mayorial proclamation for doubters - and citizens of Portland have the chance to celebrate by hanging out with current Wonder Woman creators Gail Simone and Aaron Lopresti, as well as creators Ron Randall, Anne Timmons, Paul Gulacy and Love & Rockets creators Jaime and Gilbert Hernandez at Excalibur Comics (2444 SE Hawthorne Blvd) starting at 12pm today. The New Jersey event happens at Comic Fusion (42 Main St., Flemington, NJ), with guests including classic comic artist Joe Sinnott. Both events will feature silent art auctions, giving you a chance to help out domestic abuse charities and get some amazing art in the process. Here're some of the pieces you can bid on:" - RAPatton
#6 is my favorite. Love the look. - Hip-Hop in da House
Demode
wonderful stuff, friend of mine, and you should always include photographers' link: http://www.richardwarrenphotos.com - Anthony Citrano
right, I usually add a link but sometimes need to search..thank you. - Demode
then search *before* you copy and distribute someone else's work, please. :) - Anthony Citrano
sorry I got it thanks:) - Demode
Carlos Ayala
Tonight's Half Moon has a few Visitors.
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In order: Calisto, Europa, Jupiter, Io, Ganymede and to the southeast IOT Cap - HIP105515. This is a composite of two pictures taken one after another at 560mm and at two different exposures placed on a black background and cropped. Some resolutions may see this edit. No other post processing was done to any of these incredible celestial bodies. Pictures taken 10/25/09 @ 7:54pmEST - Carlos Ayala
Very nice, Carlos. - Derrick
Aww Thanks D! - Carlos Ayala
Anyone wanna go half on a German Equatorial Mount??? - Carlos Ayala
*Sigh*... space is HUGE! - Mark Jepsen
Omg, amazing, Carlos!!!! - Carmen
Very nice. I've been trying to just get Jupiter and the moon these past few weeks. - Anika
Sweet! It looks really clear. What did you set the white balance at? I know this is converted black and white and all, just wondering what kind of color info the lens/sensor were able to register for Jupiter. - Adrian
@Anika they should be in your southern sky for most of your night and a wide angle will get them both together in the frame. the only problem is capturing any detail in both at the same time is virtually impossible. - Carlos Ayala
If I didn't live on the other side of the continent (and had half the money) I'd go in halves on a GEM. Keeping the camera on Jupiter at that kind of magnification with a crappy tripod is a bear. - Adrian
Oh, I can see them randomly. That's not the problem. It's actually shooting them where they're not blogs of white. I was going to do what you did and stitch together two photos, but the moon pics I've taken have been unusuable. - Anika
@Adrian WB is almost always on Auto for these shots. If i am doing long exposures of starscapes in polluted skies i may do Tungsten. and I never convert to B&W. The shot of Jupiter is straight on shot @ 0.8 Seconds F8.0 ISO 1600. The Moon was shot @ 1/30 ISO 100. Both @ 560mm on a tripod. - Carlos Ayala
@Anika you have to keep in mind that what you see of the Moon is sunlight. Always shoot it at ISO100, as though you were shooting in daylight. The actual speed will vary between 1/30 - 1/200, as an example. The shutter speed is dependent on position in the sky and type of moon, for the most part. - Carlos Ayala
@Anika to stitch them, all i did was open both of them in photoshop and place them side by side in a new file. Since i wanted an accurate representation of position in the sky i moved the Moon to where it is in relation to Jupiter. This created a gap. The gap was easily fixed by making the background black. So, 3 layers: black background, the Moon and Jupiter and its neighbors. - Carlos Ayala
So I shouldn't be getting color data on Jupiter at this magnification? I'm probably seeing chromatic aberration from the lens. You saw my photos... the colors on Jupiter and it's glow would switch up depending on how I had the white balance set. Strange, I guess I should look this up. - Adrian
the only way to get any color data at this this magnification is if you track it using a GEM while taking many many many exposures at different lengths and later stacking the frames. If i had to guess, what you (and I) are picking up is actually reflected sunlight. - Carlos Ayala
even this picture needed 73 exposures to get an 'accurate' representation: http://tinyurl.com/yhtp9wj - Carlos Ayala
Crazy! The rovers on Mars shoot like that too. They have filters for the various color wavelengths and they piece the color photos together from these. I want a mount... and filters. :D - Adrian
Oh it's not just color wavelengths they go for it's chemical wavelengths. They can identify chemistry on visible objects with the technique. - Adrian
as for the canon's you can either purchase a modified camera for astrophotography, have your current canon permanently modified, add a filter above the sensor yourself or just wing it like i do. these filters cut out the wavelengths that produce the chromatic aberrations you mentioned and high pressure sodium and mercury light pollution. a GEM and a 800mm telescope with t-adapter is on my Christmas list for sure. - Carlos Ayala
Dude, I have an Oly OM-1MD! In the 70's it was *the* astro-photography camera. ;) It was one of the main reasons I got it. It has mirror lock-up for vibration-free images. Since I don't have a long lens for it, I'm thinking I should just get a telescope with a mount, and an adapter for the camera. But for now it's just a dream. - Adrian
haha yeah man i know the camera, i forgot you had that beast. awesome. unfortunately we are really limited as to what we can realistically photograph without a GEM. we are basically limited to the Moon. all deep sky objects require a GEM at the very least and a decent (fast) lens or telescope. look at this way my 560mm shot is effectively 896mm on my crop (if i have the math right) and thats the best i can do with what i have. - Carlos Ayala
Yep, that's why my plan is to go the scope route when I can do it. Here's some info on the OM-1 for astronomy: http://www.scopereviews.com/om... - Adrian
Great writeup thanks Adrian! - Carlos Ayala
Luna and the Jovian system? *swoon* - Michael W. May
I got some nice moon shots myself the other night - not nearly as good. But you hit the jackpot there. - Roberto Bonini
RAPatton
Rape Is One Tick Short Of Armageddon, On Dollhouse - Dollhouse - io9 - http://io9.com/5389040...
Rape Is One Tick Short Of Armageddon, On Dollhouse - Dollhouse - io9
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"Everyone who's been complaining that Dollhouse pulled a bait-and-switch, showing us a post-apocalyptic world at the end of season one, then failing to revisit it in season two: quitcher bitchin'. We saw the roots of that dystopia last night. Oh, and this is your spoiler warning: I'm going to assume you saw last night's episode already. If you haven't, go and watch it. Twice. Dollhouse must have been testing our faith on purpose. I went into season two convinced this was one of the all-time great TV shows, exploring thorny issues of gender, power and identity in a way that few other shows ever manage to hint at. And then the season's first two episodes left me wondering if I'd just been hallucinating. Last week's serial killer/Chaucer mash-up was a huge leap in the right direction — but last night's episode, "Belonging," was the real thing. I totally apologize for saying Glee is better than Dollhouse. So yes, this was definitely a prequel to the unaired "mindwiped Mad Max" episode,... more... - RAPatton from Bookmarklet
lalalalala (haven't watched any, will watch it all in one sitting when season is over) - Michael W. May
Finally saw this episode. Wow. I'm.....speechless. - Jon, the Beartato of FF
This ep was awesome. I agree. - Eric @ CS Techcast
I wasn't feeling it at all, they can say it is"exploring thorny issues of gender, power and identity in a way that few other shows ever manage to hint at" but it seemed to me like a thin metaphor for hollywood like the rest of the show and fell flat. So...everyone knew about ms lonelyhearts and...did nothing, but they can't figure out what happened to the guy that put sierra in the dollhouse? - Richard Lawler
Indeed. - Steven Perez
I actually watched Epitaph One right before I watched this episode and definitely agree that they should be viewed together. - Derek Coward
While I'm not ready to praise the show outright, I'm encouraged that the thematic elements are being handled better and characters are actually being *developed* and given some weight. - Jon, the Beartato of FF
Yes, that was probably one of the best episodes yet. Very well done. Kind of ironic Echo wasn't the central character! - Amani
Amani, I've found that the show is actually a lot better when Echo ISN'T the central chracter. I think it flows a lot better. - James Ferguson
Agreed, really dug this episode. Richard, I think it's more interesting that they probably *do* know what happened to the guy that put sierra in the dollhouse. I particularly like when Adelle is like "isn't that convenient." - mikepk
Except that's ridiculously dumb. "We value him so much we'll give him a human being if he asks, but you can kill him if you really want to, that's cool too" is an odd management principle. - Richard Lawler
I see your point, but that's assuming that they think giving him a human being is a big deal. Adelle clearly knows, but she was conflicted from the beginning. The question is if Rossum knows and if so, do they gain anything by his death. - mikepk
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