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aaron
Trying to recall this blog post on library website design that critised library websites for putting mostly content (links to search, databases etc) instead of showcasing events or their people.
I remember it was fairly controversial and led to a little blog exchange. I *think* it was on academic libraries but could easily have been on public libraries. - aaron
Thanks Catherine exactly. in particular I remember the response you made. been rethinking lately about library website design and mobile tech lately. - aaron from YouFeed
Catherine's piece is great and I **love** the connection between campus site as marketing tool and library website as marketing tool. Nearly impossible to find the actual life of a campus when it's all splashy "why you should enroll/give" Potemkin's village. When I go to a library site, I'm usually looking for stuff, not library news and social media palaver. - barbara fister
Funny how we go back and forth on this. Kind of like faculty committees - we have too many! prune, prune. We need a committee for .... grow, grow. We have too many (repeat infinitely). - barbara fister
Bell's discussion only makes sense (to me) for academic and school libraries. For public libraries, the "parent institution's website" only comes into play if the library's website is so badly titled/designed that people can't find it directly. I suppose there must be some who say "I need to see stuff at the library. That's probably a city department, so..." but not many. - Walt Crawford
Maybe I misunderstand Bell's piece. But I see academic libraries moving away from the search/discovery business (thanks to changing habits, open access availabilty etc) and moving towards showcasing expertise in data research management, open access, GIS and new facilities like labs etc. This would imply the real estate on the portal should shift towards mentioning those areas and less on "stuff". - aaron
I also notice is that another way to solve the problem would be to have a smart bento style search box with a "best bets" or something, so common searches would recommend librarians and or services... Eg try searching GIS for NCSU libraries. - aaron
I may also have misunderstood; it wasn't Bell's clearest column. - Walt Crawford
Aaron, that shift away from search/discovery toward data management, GIS, etc. may be true ... at R1s, ARL libraries, and other top-tier places. Not so much at small teaching colleges, Podunk State University, community colleges, etc. Which make up a huge proportion of academic libraries, at least in the U.S. - Catherine Pellegrino
Catherine: But isn't it fairly standard operating procedures for discussions of What Academic Libraries Need to focus on The 148 (Research/doctoral intensive) or The 143 (libraries spending at least $10 million), assuming that what works for them will also work for the other three thousand? - Walt Crawford
What's good for the goose is good for the gosling. - Stephen Francoeur
Or to frame all of higher eds problems in terms of either R1s and their undergrad experience or ivy leagues, almost always ignoring the experiences of the nearly 50% who attend CCs. We seem to have a problem grasping the wide spectrum when talking about issues. - barbara fister
Not that public library discussions are free of this problem--amazing the number of discussions, etc. that appear set in a world where most public libraries are good-size institutions serving at least 40,000 people (true of about 15% of America's public library systems). - Walt Crawford
Yes, my argument is for research intensive universities including my own I guess. - aaron
Eric - It's My Thing
Our first Trader Joe's is now open. What are your go to Trader Joe's items?
pain au chocolat (frozen, trust me...), naan, simmer sauces, ginger granola cereal, Italian blood orange soda, lavash... I'm forgetting a bunch of stuff... - Bren - pseudo-Buddhist
The Indian shelf-stable meals. The Indian frozen meals are pretty good, too. They're cheaper on dairy than most grocery stores. Their ice cream is private labeled Double Rainbow and is some of the best richest non-chunky ice cream you'll find. The mushroom hors d'oeuvres are to die for. I will scarf those in one sitting if someone doesn't stop me. I second the Italian blood orange soda.... more... - Spidra Webster
OOH! I remembered something else: they have pre-marinated meats. kalbi, carne asada, and the like. Those have been really good, too. - Bren - pseudo-Buddhist
The already-cooked carnitas is good to grab when you're too tired to do more than heat something up. - Spidra Webster
Harvest Hodgepodge frozen veggies (great for stir fry), frozen chicken breasts, turkey bacon (both regular and pepper), flavored sparkling water, organic lemonade, pomegranate lime juice (great with vodka), chicken apple sausage, guacamole, hummus, salsa especial (refrigerated section), salsa autentica (near the tortilla chips), simmer sauces (the masala one is my favorite), olive... more... - Corinne L
OH YES. The carne asada is so good you want to slap someone. Ground beef & ground turkey are great too. - Corinne L
I need to get the pomegranate lime juice next time I'm there... this is going to be one of my favorite threads, I can tell. - Bren - pseudo-Buddhist
They used to have a chicken salad sandwich on pretzel bread... I don't know if they still have it (pre-made, refrigerated section) but if they do... it was great. - Bren - pseudo-Buddhist
I am so hungry now. Eric, will your Trader Joe's be selling beer & wine? If so, and you like good wine, I'd recommend getting friendly with their wine buyer as they will clue you in to some great deals. - Corinne L
I can't even imagine a TJ's not selling wine. Wine & cheese were what the store was founded on. (That is, you've introduced me to the novelty of TJ's in possibly dry counties...) - Spidra Webster
Oh, I can't stress this strongly enough: get on the Fearless Flyer mailing list, or make sure you check it regularly online. I've made a number of discoveries reading that. - Bren - pseudo-Buddhist
In several places back east grocery stores can't sell beer, wine or liquor, Spidra. It was quite a shocker when I moved to CA 14 years ago & went to Safeway or Vons and there were ALL THE BOOZY THINGS. - Corinne L
We have a state law that a single entity can only sells alcohol at one location. They chose the Denver store for the booze. - Eric - It's My Thing from iPhone
*kisses the ground of California* - Spidra Webster
HA HA HA Spidra! - Corinne L
Jo-Jo's, always get the Jo-Jo's. Never be embarrasses to impulse buy the check out counter chocolate, you can't go wrong. - Heather
I swear by their handmade tortillas. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Maple cream cookies. - Rochelle *boom* Hartman
Cheeses! Kalbi - my kids would eat it every day if I let them. Uncooked bratwurst. Their Clif bars tend to be cheaper than elsewhere. - Jaclyn aka spamgirl from Android
Pre-made curried chicken salad. TJ's brand pita crackers. Indian simmer sauces. Naan. Their pre-made thanksgiving stuffing is tasty. - Lnorigb from FFHound!
Peanut butter, apple sauce, coffee, Californian olive oil, roster red pepper soup, frozen pizza, ginger cookies, meat,syrah cheese, sprouted grain bread - Mr. The Jason Fleming from Android
The apple cider. - Julian
I should give their Fort Worth store another chance, armed with a shopping list from this post. - Greg GuitarBuster
pain au chocolat. And more pain au chocolat. - Glen Campbell
Nuts, California e.v. olive oil (local makers with $20/half liter EVOO say "get TJ's if you can't afford ours"), Israeli cous cous, maple syrup (we get Grade A Canadian, but there's also Grade B and Vermont), the three-small-chocolate-bars-in-a-wrapper Dark and Extra Dark varieties and the organic Extra Dark chocolate bars. Oh, and dried fruit. - Walt Crawford
Their nuts and dried fruit are wonderful! I keep a bag of the mesquite almonds in my drawer at work for snacks and their sweet and spicy pecans and dried cranberries are very tasty in salads. I also love their mild cheddar and triple cream brie cheese and they have a smoked mozzarella that was very good in my omelette the other night. - vicster: full-bodied
Do they have anything that is not pre-made? - Elena
Yes - you can get cheese, meats, vegetables etc. - Glen Campbell
Lots of stuff, Elena. TJ's is like any other grocery store in many respects, just on a smaller scale. Most of their items are TJ's own label(s). You could conceivably do all your grocery shopping there, but if there are certain brand items you want (e.g., Coca Cola products, Tyson poultry) you would have to go to your local major supermarket. - Corinne L
Coffee. Nuts. Frozen green beans. Appetizers. Frozen Indian foods. Simmer sauce. Pumpkin butter - Christina Pikas from iPhone
COOKIE BUTTER. - Lola Bean (Penguin) from iPhone
OMG how had we forgotten about Cookie Butter? - Julian
I'm not close enough to a Trader Joe's to go very often, unfortunately. When I do visit one, I make sure to check out the cheese selection and the beer and wine. - John (bird whisperer)
I refuse to even try the cookie butter because I'd go back 4 times a week to replenish my stock of it. - vicster: full-bodied
WHAT IS COOKIE BUTTER?? - Elena
The cheap wine been mentioned yet? - Joe
These are great. Joe, the cheap wine will not be available at the Colorado Springs location. Colorado only allows liquor sales at one location. This is why our Costco stores have a separate liquor store run by a small business, but obviously in partnership with Costco. - Eric - It's My Thing
Went to the TJ in Denver today. Got some cookie butter, sipping chocolate, Halloween Jo joe's, beer & wine. Didn't want to get anything that had to be refrigerated since I was an hour away from home. I'll save cheese & other cold goodies for the one her in C/S. - Elena
Micah
How do you login to Friendfeed? (via FB, via Twitter, or native Friendfeed username/password)?
Username/password. Old school! - Mark H
same - Meg VMeg
FF username/password - John (bird whisperer)
ff username + pwd - Lucretia, my reflection ൠ
FF username/pw - Corinne L
likewise - Anne Bouey
Username and password. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
User/pass - Bren - pseudo-Buddhist from iPhone
FF username/pw, once the email system worked again and I changed the PW.. but there have been times I logged in with FB. - Me
FF username + password. By the way, it seems like FB/twitter login is not working anymore, but thanks to Anne password reset is working once again, which is quite helpful for those who have trouble logging in. - naltro
ff username and password - Signorina Did from Flucso
Username and password - Pea Bukowski
ff username/password - kika23
ff username/password, if I need to relogin - Walt Crawford
via Facebook, my ff login quit working a long time ago and I had to create a new account. - Greg GuitarBuster
username pw - Eric - It's My Thing
FF username/password. i long ago (mid-90s) became very good at memorising them, even with policies forcing a change weekly or biweekly and disallowing duplications within a certain time frame and requiring non-alphanumeric characters. - Big Joe Silence
Username/password - Spidra Webster
FF user/pass - Invernomuto
ff username/password. - bentley
Native, since the beginning. - Julian
That's good to know, naltro, appreciate you mentioning it. Belated thanks, Anne. - Micah
FF username/password - Minciaroni™
Same - Rodfather from Android
ff username/password. - Sei Dee già Pulp
ff user/pswd - cogitabondo
FF username & pass. Had long forgotten the other options even existed. - rönin from FFHound!
Username and password - Jakala from Android
(robot roll call!) - Meg VMeg
Did someone say password reset works again? Has Ian tried it? - bentley
(Cambot!) - bentley
(Gypsy!) - Meg VMeg
(Tom Servo!) - bentley
(Crooooooooooooow!) - Meg VMeg
username / password. - Andrew C (✔)
FF username/password - Stephan #TeamMarina from iPhone
Old school. Anybody still use the FFtogo login for mobile devices? I haven't used that in years. - Joe
FF username/password - Jennifer Dittrich from FFHound!
FF log in - WarLord
FF login. - vicster: full-bodied
Native - DB, Lil LB's Dad
FF login - ellbeecee
I have a cord sticking out of the wall. I just plug it in to my brain and there are all you lovely people. The electrical contractor charged double. Uh... I mean native. - SAM
U/P. Always. - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart from Android
Username/password. - (Curtis) Alan Jackson from Android
via FB - Brent Schaus
FF username/password - Tamara J. B.
Native - ello fizgherard
FF username and password using Chrome, username and remote key in Youfeed and Flucso. - Stefano.
Username and password - chiaratiz™ from Android
User/password - Sabrina Briganti from FFHound(roid)!
Userid/pwd. - Vampire Hunter DYSP
username/password - Al & Luminio ™
username/password - lady frattaglia from Android
My issues stem from the fact my account is so old, I never get any email notifications so it makes changing anything impossible - Iain - locked out of ff
Ffhound. User/pass on regular web. - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
Username and password - Smeerch
username/password - piesio
username/password - Non sono Bob
Username/password - mario leone
Until last week Facebook login. Now user/pass. - GePs from Flucso
user/pass - corax from Flucso
username and password. - Jim: with more caffeine!
native on PC, ffhoundroid on phone - Pete : Team Marina
Native - Amir
FF username/password - ebru
ff username/password - Sleepers
User/pass - Charlo††e Flax ✞ from Android
FF username and password - Minchi ♡
u/p - miki
u/p - Aldo Oldo
username/password - In do
username/password - d☭snake
I think I'm going to have to make a change. In Firefox, I'm currently logged in using the FB login. I started Chrome today and it wants me to login (I guess that cookies expired). The FB login isn't working. Reading the above comments, I'm thinking I should switch back to native FF username and password and reset the password. I'm concerned that I'll lose my current working profile and have to rebuild from scratch. - Greg GuitarBuster
lris
No house for me. The inspection was scary.
??? - Julian
:( that sucks, but at least the inspection caught it before you got in - Sir Shuping is just sir
:( Better to learn that up front, though. - LB put a spell on you. from Android
:( but good on learning now - ellbeecee
dangit! - Meg VMeg
That's disappointing! - Marie
IME, all inspections are scary, even the ones that go well. - Big Joe Silence
Yeah, but some are scarier than others, and reveal expensive things when the house is being sold as is. - lris
Oh no! - Steele Lawman
I'm sorry, Iris. - Stephen Mack
How disappointing. - RepoRat
I'm sorry that this house didn't work out, but glad you won't get trapped in a money pit of repairs that will keep you from enjoying having your own home. - vicster: full-bodied
Oof. I'm sorry. - Marianne
Aww. At least you didn't get a money pit. - Eric - It's My Thing from iPhone
Congrats on finding out BEFORE you bought - Steve C Team Marina
What Steve said. It's disappointing to not be able to go ahead and get the house you wanted, but there's no hell like home money pit hell. - Spidra Webster
Yeah. I wondered how I would feel after sleeping on it, and I guess I feel like I made the right decision. It would have been a Project House when what I need is just a normal house. Normal houses are projects enough as it is without contemplating demo and rebuilding bits of them. - lris
Unfortunately true. Hoping you find your Normal House soon! - RepoRat
Congratulations and commiserations. (When we've sold houses, we've paid for independent inspections *beforehand* with the inspector's report available at open house; it's helped enormously. Usually, the buyer *still* gets their own inspection, but never finds anything new. It doesn't take much to turn a "great deal" into a money pit.) - Walt Crawford
Iain - locked out of ff
Damn. Coming down with the flu.
The full flu? That sucks. - Eric - It's My Thing
*hands over tea and chicken soup* - Kirsten
*sends tissues* - LB put a spell on you. from Android
Feel better soon! - Tamara J. B. from FFHound(roid)!
oh, man. i hope it's brief and mild. flu can bite me. - Big Joe Silence
Booooooooooooooo - Meg VMeg
:( - Anne Bouey
Colleague of mine - younger than me at mumble-mumble years of age - just had to have a flu shot as he's been diagnosed as diabetic in the last year and this makes him a risk apparently. He was the youngest person in the clinic by at least thirty years by his reckoning; it was a coughing, creaking, moaning hell of a wait. We all have this joy to look forward to. - Mark H
I had the flu already. IT WAS AWESOME. Shitty, I meant to say shitty. - Zamms
What is this "had to have" re flu shots? Around here, at least, it's a fast process, it's free, there's herd immunity, and flu really isn't any fun. And, hey, if you're under 45 and hate shots, you can get the mist instead. - Walt Crawford
It's that time of year! Hope you're feeling better? - Halil
Stephen Mack
Poll: You drop a piece of candy on the ground. Do you: (A) Pick it up within five seconds and eat it, (B) Throw it away, or (C) Other
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c: make an art piece with it - Sir Shuping is just sir
B, most of the time - Jennifer Dittrich
B. Always. - Anika
C: don't eat/drop candy - Meg VMeg
B. always - Amit Patel
depends on the candy - hard candy like the one pictured, if sufficiently hard and not too sticky, then A; melty chocolate will most likely be handled with B (but with infinite sadness). - Ken Gidley
Depends on the ground. And yeah, depends on the candy. When I was a kid, we didn't have the five second rule. Instead, we crossed ourselves (it was a Catholic country). All of us kids knew it was safe to eat dropped food if you crossed yourself. :-) - bentley
My answer is similar to Betsy's. :-) - John (bird whisperer)
C, if it's like the candy above I rinse it off. There is no 5 second rule, grossness sticks, but hard candy can be rinsed. - Heather
I suspect Heather's right, but for Jolly Rancher? B. - Walt Crawford
Definitely A - Friar Will
Usually A unless it's a manky floor. A quick visual inspection and blow job normally determines if I have to resort to B. :D - Jenny H. from Android
^^^^ We still talking about candy? or have we switched to "Candy"? - Ken Gidley
Depends on the substrate, but I'd say 95% of the time, B. - Hookuh Tinypants
A. Unless it's sticky and picked up carpet and hair fibers. - Louis Gray
A. for linoleum, tile or hardwood and as long as it's hairfree. Also it depends on the type of candy. - NOT THE CRICKET
A - Janet from FFHound!
D: Pick it up, rinse it off, eat it. - Steve and 4 other people
Pick the carpet/dog hair off and eat it. No time limit. - Ken Morley
B- I probably shouldn't be eating candy anyway. =) - Yvonne Renee from FFHound!
B - always. - imabonehead
A or B, depending on the ground/floor/environment. Would say mostly B. - CarlC
(D) I take a picture of it and post about it. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Depends on the ground and candy, but I'm probably gonna rinse it off if I can and throw it away if rinsing isn't possible. - Andrew C (✔)
Walt Crawford
Idle thought as I was ripping out turf and listening to music, when "Old Friends" came up: "Gee, Paul Simon can't be that much younger than I. Will he really find it terribly strange to be 70?" (for me, that's a year from now). Turns out he's nearly four years older than I am, so he's been feeling terribly strange since October 2011...
[Probably beaten to death in the popular media back then; I don't keep up with that stuff very well.] - Walt Crawford
I don't find it terribly strange to be 38, but when I'm with my friend I've known since we were 4, I often think it is terribly strange that we are now both so much older and have children (and one of hers is in high school!). - laura x
When we are 70, we'll have known each other for 66 years. - laura x
Not at all related, or maybe it is: Last Saturday's "Asbury Follies"--a low-key thing at my brother's church--included "When I'm 94," sung by a man to his wife, the man considerably closer to 94 than to 64. Quite lovely, actually... - Walt Crawford
Also, now I'm listening to all of Simon & Garfunkel in chronological order and feeling oddly nostalgic for high school. - laura x
Odd opinion formed because of alphabetic song playing sequence: When it comes to dissing dull small towns, I think Garth Brooks' "Nobody Gets Off In This Town" wins over S&G's "My Little Town." Although the latter is certainly more dramatic, the former's funnier & more pointed. (I like them both.) - Walt Crawford
Sarah G.
I have seen the future and it's a restaurant like chipotle but for wood fired pizza.
its brand new, only been out for a wee bit i think - Sir Shuping is just sir
Blaze? We're getting one of those in Evanston. The college students are going to LOVE it - Hedgehog
There's MOD in Seattle ("made on demand"?) and 800 Degrees in LA also. edit: not 100% sure either one uses wood-fired ovens. - Andrew C (✔)
There are also the "Chipotle but for Asian food" genre: Asian Box, which I've only seen in the basement of Macy's in downtown SF and Shophouse, which actually is owned by Chipotle. - Andrew C (✔)
We've got Venti-Tre here: Like Chipotle but Italian. Supposed to be the first of a new chain. - m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
We have a place that's supposed to be like that, but their pizza ain't so hot. - Eric - It's My Thing
It's called "project pie." I thought it was going to be a pie restaurant, and was disappointed, but this is awesome! - Sarah G.
their pizza is amazing! - holly #ravingfangirl
We have the chain called Pieology, like that. Delish! - Tamara J. B. from FFHound(roid)!
That "owned by" gets tricky, if you remember who used to own Chipotle. (Hint: You deserve a break today...) - Walt Crawford
I don't understand "like Chipotle but _____" what is Chipotle-like about these places? I thought Chipotle was just burritos & rice bowls? - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
Starmama - I think it's more about "We have a bunch of ingredients, you choose everything that goes in your burrito/bowl." I assume the restaurant Sarah is describing was a place where they had pizza crust & toppings, and you went down a line saying "Yeah, put that on my pizza", then they put it in the fire for you. We had a restaurant right next to my office called Pancho Villa Express that I always used to describe as "Chipotle, except the food actually tastes good." :P - COMPLICATED MR. NOODLE
..and, yes, I think whoever said that Chipotle is "like Subway, but for burritos" (I know I saw that last night, but am not seeing it now - maybe it was a separate post) was spot-on. - COMPLICATED MR. NOODLE
<record needle scratch>. You don't like chipotle?????? - Sarah G.
Is there something odd about *not* liking Chipotle? (I always thought the old ad line was funny: I'm sure lots of people didn't/don't like Sara Lee.) - Walt Crawford
ah I see, thanks. - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
Sarah - that is correct; I do not like Chipotle. I have plenty of empty boxes around here, so if I feel like eating some bland cardboard, I can do that without paying Chipotle for it. :P - COMPLICATED MR. NOODLE
Stephen Francoeur
New issues of portal: Libraries and the Academy is out. Chock full of good articles. http://muse.jhu.edu/journal...
there's an article about how we closed one of our libraries in there written by some of my fave peeps. - jambina
And, oh look at that, all of those interesting articles are behind a paywall. - Walt Crawford
Why is it that I'm unable to type anything without at least one typo: it's "issue" not "issues," stupid brain! I'm good at catching typos after the fact but with Twitter, ain't a damn thing I can do about them except delete the tweet and republish a corrected one. Or just say fuhgeddabout it. - Stephen Francoeur
The review, "The Virtues of Openness: Education, Science, and Scholarship in the Digital Age" is closed. I wonder if it is green OA somewhere. - Joe
rönin
When in the world did they start putting pumpkin in EVERYTHING just cause Halloween is coming? Getting a tad ridiculous.
Even more so: it's not really about Halloween, but pumpkin pie and Thanksgiving. It'll only ratchet up another notch after Halloween is done. - Jennifer Dittrich
"Pumpkin spice" often only means the spices used in pumpkin pie, which -- without googling it -- I think are mostly nutmeg and cinnamon. - Andrew C (✔)
This was brought about by me receiving Trader Joe's monthly flyer today which includes the following: Pumpkin Bread & Muffin Mix, Pumpkin Spice Coffee, Pumpkin O's, Pumpkin Spiced Pumpkin Seeds, Country Pumpkin Spice Granola, Pumpkin Pancake & Waffle Mix, Pumpkin Ice Cream, Pumpkin Rolls w/Pumpkin Spice Icing, Pumpkin Cream Cheese Muffins, Gluten Free Pumpkin Pancake Mix, Mini Pumpkin... more... - rönin
That's a lot of pumpkin. - Rodfather from Android
Pumpkin flavored hot dogs. - Joe
Pizza with pineapple, pepperoni and pumpkin. - Joe
I am waiting for egg nog. - April Russo
Yeah, but TJ is real clear in the Frequent Flyer about going overboard with pumpkin (most of it actually pumpkin; they're clear when it's pumpkin spices, as in the pumpkin-spiced pumpkin seeds). They have fun with it. (Probably the only sales pitch I read cover-to-cover is TJ's Frequent Flyer, nowhere near monthly but always fun.) - Walt Crawford
Never mind. By the time it is Thanksgiving, pumpkin everything will be over and the the peppermint/candy cane flavored everything will be in full force. - m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
Joe
Joe
.@micahvandegrift @waltcrawford @gehtsie Yes, @creativelibprac is a very small, but that's ~15 less articles/year going to T&F (most likely)
I believe (hope?) that the future for LIS journals is more like CLP than like an "LIS megajournal"--C&RL and ITAL don't publish hundreds of articles a year either, but add all 100+ gold OA LIS journals together and it starts being pretty viable. (Part of Part 2 of my essay: The Diseconomies of Scale.) - Walt Crawford
Like that title. - Joe
Thanks; I do plan to use it. This came to me as I was going through the third part of the study (the 3,338 DOAJ journals I'm looking at) and noting the many, many reasonably old journals with no APC but also fairly narrow niches and low publication volume. - Walt Crawford
Julian
Get Free Food Prep Help from Your Butcher by Simply Asking - http://lifehacker.com/get-fre...
Get Free Food Prep Help from Your Butcher by Simply Asking
i do this - it's great! some of the butchers at Whole Foods know me by sight now. - holly #ravingfangirl
Same, for some stuff - I especially like that the fishmonger I go to will do a great job taking out pin bones, or any sort of cleaning. It is sometimes a bit extra, but totally worth it. - Jennifer Dittrich
One of the butcher's around here does an amazing job butterflying the turkey breast for me at Thanksgiving. It makes my life so much easier when doing that roulade. - Katy S
We don't have no damned fishmongers. *jealous* - Eric - It's My Thing
Having a regular butcher is very cool - WarLord
I pay a little more at our local butcher but the meat is top quality and the butchery skill is unmistakable. - Johnny from iPhone
I like having a place where I can reliably place custom orders. Also, my favorite one in the area makes its own bacon and it is awesome! They have fabulous brats, too. They almost all do deer processing and one of them will process other animals, too. If I had a cow or pig, I could take it to them. While this won't be happening, I love that it's an option. - Katy S
The closest thing we have to a *good* fishmonger (AFAIK) is the Mountain View Farmers' Market fish place, and we only get there once every 6-8 weeks... - Walt Crawford
aaron
"Ten things you should know about scholarly communication." https://scholarlyoa.files.wordpress.com/2014... Jeffrey Beall,
"Ten baseless things Jeffrey Beall's fevered imagination thinks we should 'know." - Stephen Francoeur
Thank you for warning me it was Beall and I could therefore ignore it. - RepoRat
Could you tell it was Beall otherwise? Especially if the name was not on the doc? :) - aaron
I know the URL already, so I was aware it was Beall before I even clicked. - Stephen Francoeur
But even if I didn't know that, if I were to just stumble on this document without knowing the author, items 7 and 8 sound like him: "Big-Brother style mandates" and the focus solely on OA journals as predatory. - Stephen Francoeur
Unfortunately, Beall seems to have a big and growing audience, and attempts to deflate his reputation have, as far as I can tell, been pretty much ignored. So that grotesquerie will receive a lot more credit than it should... - Walt Crawford
Turn it up to 11. People should know about the ravings of J.Be all. - Joe
How do I (or anyone else) do that? You can't say "there are no questionable journals" because, of course, there are...just not nearly as many as Beall claims. You can correct his false statements about gold OA (statements repeated in nearly every damn APC-charging OA publisher's website), but that just gets ignored. He gets away with calling my work "bilge" and attacking anybody who questions him... - Walt Crawford
...and, after all, he's an Academic Librarian and therefore trustworthy, where I'm a nobody with no institutional affiliation or credentials. (Yes, my extended report on OA realities will be coming out. No, I don't think it will do much good. I'm getting more than a little discouraged about doing *anything*.) - Walt Crawford
Saw it in [SCHOLCOMM] so far only 1 reply. Let me tweet it too. - aaron
we made a great one for ACRL, and Beall took full advantage of the CC licensing. *sigh* - jambina
I'd issue him a takedown notice. This CC-BY-NC-SA document is on a .com website. Hence, he is using something that is supposed to be non-commercial on a commercial website. - Joe
we decided not to. as for the .com - that's a big stretch, joe. i have a .com and do nothing commercial on it. - jambina
It was a thought. - Joe
If that PDF really was created on October 1, 2014, the question is at what point Beall's misstatements (all Gold OA involves author payments, there's an inherent conflict of interest--presumably unique to Gold OA--in authors paying publishers [ignoring all the charges in toll journals]) slide from ignorance to deliberate distortion of the facts. - Walt Crawford
On the other hand, I sure wouldn't want to push the idea that something being on a .com site makes it "commercial." That's an awfully wide assertion. - Walt Crawford
We need to do a 'let me fix that for you' and distribute it. - Sarah from FreshFeed
Since I'm not a scholcomm subscriber, I didn't realize that Beall's document is his "improved version" of an earlier (ARL?) document. That makes it even worse: his idea of "improving" being basically to lie about OA in order to trash it as much as possible. - Walt Crawford
[Yes, on one hand, I know that I probably need to subscribe to scholcomm. On the other, AFAIK I don't currently have high blood pressure and, at my age, don't wish to encourage it...] - Walt Crawford
[Shudder:] Turns out I already have--and could log into--an ALA Mailing Lists account (I subscribe to two mail lists that have been dead for some time). So I subscribed to scholcomm. I suspect I'll live to regret it. - Walt Crawford
Right now, there is a lot of activity, but I bet that will die down, lots of re re re re res. - Joe
Micah Vandergrift said OA week should be a call to librarians to adopt an OA only pledge, something like that, and lots of discussion ensued. - Joe
I noticed, just looking at portions of October. Of course, being exposed to *more* of Joe Esposito and Rick Anderson ain't gonna make my day, but I guess I need to follow it. (Yes, SKitch is in my feed, as is [Anti-]Scholarly Open Access - Walt Crawford
And finally did what I should have done earlier: Looked up Micah Vandegrift after his comments that seem to suggest that librarians have ignored OA. He's young and energetic: that's good. While I think the idea of an LIS Megajournal is a really, really bad one, I don't want to discourage those who still have any OA energy left... - Walt Crawford
Oh, and he's a 2013 M&S, and I'm entirely out of the business of cutting those down or even saying anything bad about them. So I'll go back to lurking more. Well, and starting in on Part 2 of my big report (part 1 is done in draft stage; the issue will probably be out next week). - Walt Crawford
So I'm one of the original authors of the Schol Comm 10 things document (for the ACRL Schol Comm Roadshow). We've asked Beall to remove our names and to state that we do not endorse his version, and to link to the original. He's said he would comply.... - Sarah
Phew. I'm sorry that became necessary, but thank you for challenging him. - RepoRat
Sarah: Ditto on the thanks for the challenge; now I see it's ACRL, not ARL. (Yes, I do know the difference...) - Walt Crawford
Walt Crawford
So KA at Skitchen thinks it's worth reposting Joe Esposito's year-old essay basically saying "most [first-world] scientists can get all the articles they need, therefore there is no access problem." Amazing how defining a problem away can solve it. http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2014...
OTOH, this does help remind us why it's so damn difficult to get scientists to do anything about OA. In practice, most [first-world, university-affiliated] scientists can get [almost] all of the articles they['re aware they] need. And, after all, it's only the scientists who count. - Walt Crawford
Joe
Joe
I do not think that Lark Burger is a $$$$ restaurant.
I dunno; just rounding up the larks for the burgers would seem difficult/expensive. - Walt Crawford
The Lark bird barter system is overrated. - Joe
Catherine Pellegrino
Adobe Is All Up in Your Reading Business, And Other Links | Smart Bitches, Trashy Books - http://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/blog...
Pull quote: "That sound you hear right now is a million trillion librarians saying, I BEG YOUR PARDON?" [Also includes numerous awesome .gif and .jpg side-eyes, including "the Phylicia Rashad side eye, which, as you know, is the most powerful side eye in the known universe."] - Catherine Pellegrino from Bookmarklet
Also loved Andromeda Yelton on this: "This is about the fact that we do not have the technical skills to verify whether our products are in line with the values we espouse, the policies we hold, or even the contracts we sign, and we do not delegate this verification to others who do." http://andromedayelton.com/blog... - Regular Amanda
Andromeda has written the best explanation and call to action I've seen yet. I'm grateful and am sharing with my faculty. - kaijsa
Has this train not left the station, the toothpaste been squeezed from the tube? As a profession, we have decided that we want to cede control over these kinds of things to vendors. We can beg and plead and stamp our feet, and some brave souls might even cancel some subscriptions, but when it comes right down to it, we will cave and we will not be able to promise our patrons privacy. - Steele Lawman
"As a profession, we have decided that we want to cede control over these kinds of things to vendors." - if this is true, can't we change our mind back? shouldn't we at least think about changing it? Minds aren't toothpaste, and trains return to stations all the time... - Marianne
Sure, we should think about changing it. But I believe we never will. We have too much invested in the current system already, and privacy is just kind of a little detail that is easy to let slide. - Steele Lawman
I'm happy to continue the privacy fight... but really, the only problem here is that the data was sent in clear text. Or is the ability to sync your reading across devices not desirable enough and we should do away with the tool that enables this functionality? Kindle does the same thing - only with your kindle login (and probably not in clear text). - Aaron the Librarian
Will this still be a problem once Adobe figures out how to hash the JSON object used to transfer teh data? - Aaron the Librarian
I think it will... but I've always been way over on the skinny end of the bell curve when it comes to privacy. - RepoRat
HTTP://kindle.amazon.com/most_popular - DJF from Android
I'm sort of amazed that 4chan hasn't placed some perfectly obnoxious line from the Marquis de Sade or Adolf Hitler or someone as the most highlighted passage on Kindles. Maybe they did and Amazon nixed it. - Steele Lawman
Aaron, from what i can tell the three big things are "clear text? wtf?" plus "they're roaming my devices to gather info from ALL of my epubls which I never agreed to and it's creepy" plus "WHAT IS THIS AWFUL THING NOBODY TOLD ME ABOUT DRM OH NO NO NO" which, well, that last one is kind of like those scientists being all "I GOT A TAKEDOWN FROM ELSEVIER FOR MY ARTICLE CAN THEY DO THAT?"... more... - barbara fister
The developers of the Bluefire reader comment: http://www.bluefirereader.com/blog.... Interestingly, they support syncing your reading location between devices, but their servers only synchronize a secure token that they can't read. Much like the way that Firefox sync works. - DJF
yeah, Griffey suggested hashing userid + bookid, and I don't see why that wouldn't work: http://jasongriffey.net/wp... - RepoRat
Aaron: I'd disagree that clear text is the only problem. If the patron's identity is attached to the reading records and those records are non-transitory and subject to subpoena or fishing expeditions, then *poof* reader privacy, a bedrock value for *public* libraries at least, goes out the window. And I'd guess all three "ifs" are true. - Walt Crawford
Walt Crawford
One discussion during the hike today had to do with tips and minimum wage. I asserted that California does *not* allow paying servers less than minimum wage, even if they receive tips, and that this was fairly unusual. Just checked: California, Oregon, Washington, Alaska and Nevada all require payment of full state minimum wage...
(and for California, Oregon and Washington that wage is at least $9/hour, a little higher in OR and WA). Montana and Minnesota have or will have *something* similar, but both allow smaller businesses to pay less. Just an interesting factoid... - Walt Crawford
Nevada I assume it's because it's a got incredibly strong service industry unions. Don't know about the rest. - laura x
It's one of the reasons I was so surprised that it wasn't that way everywhere else - the only places I've waitressed were in WA. While there is a strong union presence, it's also just a fairly liberal place. - Jennifer Dittrich
Minnesota does not have "tip credit" does not allow sub-minimum wage for tipped workers. Hotly debated and may change in future - Gov sons own hugely successful restaurant in Minneapolis and are lobbying him to cut mandated wages for tipped workers... FEDERAL minimum wage does allow tip credit deduction - WarLord
I'd say OR and WA for the reasons Jennifer does, and CA is liberal in many ways--and the unions aren't invisible here. The fact that all three have $9 or higher minimum wage says *something*... Yes, the Federal minimum wage, awful as it is anyway, can be as low as $2.30/hour with tip deduction! (I checked a Fed site for these facts) - Walt Crawford
Oops. Make the Fed number $2.13/hour. Here's the site: http://www.dol.gov/whd... - Walt Crawford
Fortunately, the Feds don't say "and states can't treat workers any less shabbily than we do." - Walt Crawford
Sarah G.
ALERT ALERT my dad has discovered emojii in email. this is the greatest day of my life.
Old-man confusion (I'm the old man in this case, not your dad): Is "emojii" just the hip modern version of "emoticons" or is it something different? (Wikipedia seems to say it's different...) Not that it matters; I can as easily not use emojii as I don't use emoticons. - Walt Crawford
Emoticons : emoji :: ASCII text : tiny images. - RepoRat
Emoji is now in unicode. If you want to be cool & hip and stay ahead of your dad, try kaomoji ◕‿◕ - Amit Patel
Now picturing Smiley and Miss 8 emails in the future. - sglassme
Walt Crawford
Reading some tweets that seemed to be about inadequacies in California's environmental work...then finally realized "oh, wait, CA means Canada in this case, not California." (Which then calls for a followup with the odd and maybe unfortunate fact in a recent PG&E ad:...
To wit, more than half of all rooftop solar/photovoltaic installations in the U.S. are within PG&E's service area, mostly northern & central California. I believe that, but it's still sad. (I think the state added 2.5gW of photovoltaic capacity last year, if I remember correctly.) - Walt Crawford
Oops. Just checked. California *has* about 2.5gW (or is it GW? gigawatts in either case) photovoltaic at this point; it's been growing rapidly, but it certainly wasn't all added last year. - Walt Crawford
Amit Patel
I would "like" it but, as is typical with Google Trends, the total lack of a vertical scale means that we don't know whether "interest" dropped from "so little as to be not worth mentioning" to "even less" or something more interesting. - Walt Crawford
100 = its peak search value. 29 is 29% of peak. - Louis Gray
Louis: Well, sure, I can interpret from the graph that the current value is around one-third of the peak--but the peak doesn't *mean* anything, even if you label it "100." (Heck, you could just as easily label it 1,000,000: it would be precisely as meaningful.) - Walt Crawford
See, to me the concept that "interest has dropped 70% from its peak four weeks ago" is a meaningful stat in and of itself. I understand both sides (people wanting to know how many total searches there were, and Google not wanting to share that proprietary information) but I think all Amit was trying to get across with his post is that there is data to back the impression some of us have discussed here that interest is waning. - Stephen Mack
But if at the peak, interest was infinitesimal, what does it really mean that it dropped 70%? It doesn't seem like it would be statistically meaningful if that were the case. - Victor Ganata
Thank you, Victor. That's what I'm trying to say. It's like sales of ebooks going up 200% from one year to another when sales were $100 in the first year (a mythical example)--just having the numbers (Exploding sales! Up 200%!) doesn't mean very much, statistically or otherwise. - Walt Crawford
I understood that point when Walt first stated it. But Google is intentionally not populating the scale, presumably to keep the data proprietary. In this case, we know there was a flurry of interest in Ello, and we know it dropped. The scale doesn't need to be filled in for Amit's post to prove a point and to be interesting. - Stephen Mack
Oh, I agree it may be of interest, but I'm not certain it's meaningful. Without the absolute numbers, I really think it's impossible to interpret. #MoreStudyNeeded - Victor Ganata
If I knew it was 50 searches per minute, what would I conclude differently? What does 50 mean? - Amit Patel
You're right, even the absolute number isn't much context. Ideally, it would be in comparison with other dominant trends. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
Looks like I got the URL wrong for being able to compare with other words and phrases. Try http://www.google.com/trends... - Amit Patel
The comparative trends graph is at least somewhat meaningful; thanks, Stephen. - Walt Crawford
Amit deserves the thanks! - Stephen Mack
Thanks Amit, then. - Walt Crawford
LOL. Ello: even less popular than Ebola. #justkidding - Victor Ganata
Joe
Joe
RT @pewinternet: Here's an overview of three years of research into Americans’ relationships with public libraries in the digital age http://pewrsr.ch/1mcufMU
RT @pewinternet: Here's an overview of three years of research into Americans’ relationships with public libraries in the digital age http://pewrsr.ch/1mcufMU
An interesting summary. (I'm fascinated by one "fact" that I'd probably seen before, based on what the slides do show: 43% of e-reader owners don't read ebooks on them. That's a LOT of underweight doorstops or people who own ereaders entirely to read newspapers and the like...) - Walt Crawford
Julian
Still trying to figure out how 💁 means "information desk person."
eesh. gendered and race-bound assumptions much? - RepoRat
Apple's interpretation. It would certainly not be mine. - Julian
For once, I think Microsoft wins: http://blog.getemoji.com/post... - Julian
yep, I agree. - RepoRat
It looks like somebody tried to generalize the AIGA "ticket sales" person http://www.aiga.org/symbol-... - DJF from Android
the android person is the worst - 1960s era "stewardess" - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
^^^ yup - Julian
MS did a good job here. The Apple one...sigh. - Walt Crawford
That character displayed differently depending on the browser and operating system. No wonder I was confused. - Joe
Ah. What I see on Firefox/Windows 7 is the iconic one that makes no assumptions. - Walt Crawford
Yeah, Firefox/Windows 7 was no assumptions. Firefox/Mac 9.something is the white brunette lady. - Meg VMeg
Joe
Joe
There is too such a thing as a free lunch. As long as someone else pays for it.
Yep. Even if that someone is "you at a distance." My lunch yesterday was free, because I'd purchased six sandwiches--all better and cheaper than I could have gotten elsewhere--at the same supermarket previously. A legitimately free lunch: I would have bought the other sandwiches anyway. - Walt Crawford
Micah
Say 'onboarding' one. more. time.
ONBOARDING! - Joe
Mom! Micah's not onboard with the buzzwords! - Andrew C (✔)
When we finish onboarding the plane we can takeoff shortly. - Steve C Team Marina
Wrong, Steve: you can offtake shortly - Walt Crawford
I had to go to onboarding training last month. The second session was particularly painful. - ellbeecee
If I say "onboarding" again, are you going to turn into a change agent? - COMPLICATED MR. NOODLE
We're pivoting away from onboarding. It's now called reghacking. - Mark Trapp
"As thought leaders, we think that that our clients should onboard automagically..." - Brent Schaus
I'm getting a lot of push back from Micah in respect to onboarding. Definitely not a thought leader. - (Curtis) Alan Jackson
You're not creating the optimal cross-functional, multi-platform synergy to facilitate a smooth onboarding paradigm. - Bren - pseudo-Buddhist
Andy
I swear to the old gods and the new that i read a post by the anonymous lj blogger that called out Murphy by name and now I can't find it. Anyone else remember that? Or am I just misremembering?
It's not recent either. Maybe the last couple of years. - Andy from Android
Called him out as a fraud of a "thought leader" or what? - Steele Lawman
Something like that. I remember it being vicious. - Andy from Android
LJ did a massive CMS migration, and I think not all their archives are back yet. - RepoRat
Hmm. This is driving me nuts. - Andy
This one isn't by anonymous, but it's definitely anti JM: https://brucekrajewski.wordpress.com/2011... - Jaclyn aka spamgirl
I remember that one. I've been combing through the Internet Wayback machine, trying to figure out if I can pick it out by name. - Andy
Did you try looking by the key word "digits" - Mr. The Jason Fleming from Android
That Krajewski post (which I'd never seen) is something. As are the comments, two in particular. Thanks for pointing it out, Jaclyn. - Walt Crawford
do you remember the focus of the post? - maʀtha
I think it was his lack of substance. - Andy from Android
Here's this about keynotes at the Handheld Librarian (snerk) of which, JM is one : http://lj.libraryjournal.com/blogs... - copystar
That Handheld post is interesting. The final quoted passage sounds awfully like a certain three-initialed public librarian, a monarch of sorts, although I could be wrong. - Walt Crawford
I usually pay AL no attention, but "sub-normal masturbatory low-jinks" is a term I might have to adopt as my own. - kaijsa
lris
OH MY GOODNESS OH MY GOODNESS OH MY GOODNESS AHHHHHHH. My offer on that house was accepted. *faints*
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! - Catherine Pellegrino
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! wooooooooooooo! - maʀtha
Good for you - Eric - It's My Thing
Congrats. - Walt Crawford
Wooohoooo! - Kirsten
hilariously, the next step appears to be to go to my realtor's office and sign many of the same documents again - lris
buy a foreclosure, kill a forest - lris
*begins planning house warming* - MoTO: Team Marina
Hooray!!!! - Galadriel C.
Can I borrow your lawn mower? - Glen Campbell
Too soon? - Glen Campbell
Uhm Glen? Get in line. - MoTO: Team Marina
Sure thing. One of you buy me a lawnmower and then I'll be glad to lend one out. :) - lris
Party at Iris' house! Congrats Iris. you deserve an awesome place to live. And Iris.,, it is buy ANYHOUSE kill a forest. - ♫Robot Chicken, Trainer♫
Congrats! - Jen
Congratulations! If only you could use your thumbprint to sign documents. It's be so less tiresome. - Arlan K.
A couple of minutes ago I thought I should check FF to see if Iris has heard about her house. And here it is! So happy for you. Congratulations. - Mama Lawson
You will soon develop an intimate knowledge of the workings of entropy. Congratulations! - maʀtha
Oh, believe me, I already have an intimate knowledge of the workings of entropy. This will simply give that force a larger playpen. - lris
At what point do I wake up and realize that this whole thing is a dream? - lris
Ok, signing EXACTLY the same papers as I signed last week was an exercise in hilarity. - lris
yayayayayayayyayyayaya!!! - Sir Shuping is just sir
Congrats! - Katy S
Steve's Mr. 12 and Mr. 9 were here last night. I asked Mr. 9 if he'd seen pictures of your house and he hadn't, so we looked at them together. He thinks it's a beautiful house, and he wishes he could see it in person. He obviously still has a thing for you, and he's adorable about it. - Mama Lawson
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww <3 - lris
I hope that some day he can come visit. That would be tons of fun. - lris
holly #ravingfangirl
3 days til day 1 of the @theryanadams doubleshot. bonus @butchwalker in Seattle on day 2 so you know i am totally http://reactiongifs.com/...
3 days til day 1 of the @theryanadams doubleshot. bonus @butchwalker in Seattle on day 2 so you know i am totally http://reactiongifs.com/?p=20561
Horrifying. What did you do to Kermy? - Marie
IT WASN'T ME, I SWEAR. - holly #ravingfangirl
That's...wow. FF is not kind to animated GIFs. - (Curtis) Alan Jackson
soup.io animated GIFs still import well into FF. - Micah
Why don't they fix FF? All this money I've been spending. Wait, nevermind. - Joe
Snoopy has been dancing strong for 4 years.http://ff.im/1kh9Lt - DB, Lil LB's Dad
Butch Walker killed Kermit! - Steve C Team Marina
If FF doesn't allow animated GIFs to animate within FF, I might almost be willing to pay to not have stuff moving on the screen... - Walt Crawford
Andrew C (✔)
There should be more Yelp reviews for churches' communion bread and juice.
Besides not liking the styrofoam wafers for taste and texture reasons, I don't like that they're not part of a larger piece of bread that's broken / portioned out right before serving. - Andrew C (✔)
Interesting. One of the churches I attended, church attendants baked the communion sheets before service. They were like giant roti. Then during communion the reverend would have the sheets in the basket and break it off for people. - Anika
The church I grew up in serves a kind of very hard, cracker-like flatbread that's just broken by pressing on it. Then at one point our English language service pastor got experimental -- we're an evangelical church, so not very liturgical -- but he would have pretty fancy (for our denomination) robes, and we'd do communion all sorts of different ways each month. - Andrew C (✔)
I think at one point we had a sourdough that was torn into pieces by the congregation one at a time. - Andrew C (✔)
My old church had those little round "styrofoam" wafers, but we managed to dissolve them with the wine, which was sweet port wine served in teensy glasses. - m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
My church had the traditional yucky Styrofoam wafers. Which of course the first time I ever tasted one was during my First Communion. And when the priest placed the wafer on my tongue, I refused to put my tongue back in my mouth because it tasted so awful. My godparents and the priest watched in horror as I basically re-enacted the beluga caviar scene from Big right there at the altar. - Hookuh Tinypants
In fairness, they should've realized church wasn't my gig when I kept referring to the Apostle's Creed as Apollo's Creed and telling the other kids that it was actually Pontius PILOT and he flew bible planes for Jesus. - Hookuh Tinypants
Heck, m9m, at least your church *had* wine. I grew up Methodist. Grape juice is just not the same. - Walt Crawford
Yep. got a taste for Ruby Port at age 13. - m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
Shannon - GlassMistress
I do not own the Graceland CD ... should I?
Sure! - Julian
I like most of it. Doesn't necessarily mean you will. - Walt Crawford
You mean Paul Simon - Graceland? - Steve C Team Marina
Most definitely. - Hookuh Tinypants
*thumbs up* - MoTO: Team Marina
My fish deposit should be getting there now. Use it to get Graceland. One of best complete albums of all time. - Steve C Team Marina
Graceland is one of the (if not THE) best albums of the 1980's. Get it. - Glen Campbell
Is Rdio free in the U.S.? Here's a fantastic track where Paul Simon talks about the evolution of the Graceland album: http://rd.io/x/QTIaxTdeXTR4/ - Ken Morley
I grew up on S & G, adore Negotiations and Love Songs (which has a few of Graceland's songs) but somehow missed Graceland. I'm in the mood for some new old music :-) - Shannon - GlassMistress
I was temping at an office when Graceland came out and that CD was on continuous play in our back office. - bentley
Yes. :) - Anne Bouey
Sarah G.
There's a time and a place to play your guitar for people. The departure lounge of an airport is not one of them.
I'm leeeeeeaving on a jet plane! Don't know when I'll be back again! - bentley
Big ol' jet airliner don't carry me too far away - Steve C Team Marina
Cowboy, take me away / Fly as high as you can into that wild blue - RepoRat
You can't hop a jet plane/Like you can a freight train. - Walt Crawford
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