I know I've been rooting for CA to be divided into areas that make more sense culturally/politically...
- Spidra Webster
C. Edzel Pearcy did a similar redraw in the 70s; I think his was more culturally and economically sane: http://www.tjc.com/38states/ For example, the Hudson Valley in New York has more in common with New York City than it would ever have with Southern Pennsylvania, but this map here shows them in the same state.
- Mark Trapp
love this how is it done? who did it?
- Thomas Power
Impressed that you hand-coded the capturing, I wouldn't know where to start
- Joe Dawson
from iPhone
We're honored to be your first guinea pig for the screencasting :) You should do this often.
- Ethan Gahng
greta video - got straight to the point :)
- Riaz Kanani
Hi Louis Thanks for the heads up about Lazyfeed. I have tried to register but it needs an invitation code. Can you or anyone in your network please let me know what I should put in? Thanks
- Jane Finch
Very well done, I now have a better understanding of how it works. Anymore invites? Thanks
- Mo Hall
why doesn't Lazyfeed have a feed for FF?
- Thomas Power
Thomas, Lazyfeed's founders are just now getting to understand FriendFeed better. Maybe with time.
- Louis Gray
LazyFeed looks great.! Thanks for this video Louis, super interesting (I like your fast pace too). Would love an invite if you have 1.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Hi, thanks everyone for your interest in Lazyfeed. We are excited to tell you that we will be releasing more invite codes via Twitter today. To receive your invite, please follow @lazyfeed on twitter and we will DM you an invite code. This invitation will expire midnight PST. Thank you!
- Lazyfeed
Louis, thanks for this wonderful quick tutorial. I am off to experimenting with Lazyfeed now. I wonder how you use it in conjunction with GReader, since I also find you sharing lot of stuff on GReader as well.
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Love lazyfeed so far, but it won't connect with my Twitter acct even after I set up and click connect - only Flicr, etc..Anyone else have this issue.
- Liza + = ?
Liza - I've just tried connecting your twitter to my lazyfeed and it seems to be successfully bringing tags like lazyweb, trip, techkaraoke, etc. Please try again. Thanks.
- Ethan Gahng
Now that is GREAT customer service, Ethan. Thanks.. I want to learn more about lazyweb and ppl interacting from lazyfeed. Seeing it from my google dev friends. Any ideas?
- Liza + = ?
Very nice video here. I will use this to share with all my people. Thanks Louis.
- Amani
Jeremiah Owyang, Robert Scoble, Mark Silva and Kevin Marks are on a panel at the San Francisco American Marketing Association this evening, hosted by Mark Evans: http://www.friendfeed.com/markeva...
- Louis Gray
The focus: Businesses from restaurants, to retail, to service businesses all share the commonality of seeing their customer face-to-face. As this provides some of the best positioning to capitalize on social media opportunities, the question becomes how come so few are taking advantage of the Web 2.0 tools to help drive sales?
- Louis Gray
Mark Evans: We are going to change with the times and start to be more open source -- including the community in what we are doing, so we can be the hub of marketing in the Bay Area.
- Louis Gray
Mark Evans: In the next few months, there will be a lot of events around social media, and partner events/seminars.
- Louis Gray
Robert moderating: When I started blogging 9 years ago, Dave Winer said we should blog from conferences. Google was new back then and I could only find two other blogs. Now there are conferences on Twitter, a form of blogging...
- Louis Gray
Robert: It used to be just friends talking to each other, and we would talk on our blogs about what we were doing in life and how disappointed we were that we were all laid off in the downturn, and now we are in another downturn.
- Louis Gray
Robert: Techmeme is where I go to find the hottest tech news that is happening. Now I find Google blog PR and now MG Siegler from TechCrunch - a news blog. (pulled up on his iPhone) and PR announcements from YouTube, etc. Over 9 years we have changed from a bunch of guys talking on the new system, laid off and tired of the world...
- Louis Gray
Robert: Now the geeks that were showing up at the blogger dinner (Mena Trott starting the software of Moveable Type) has a company... Brad Fitzgerald of LiveJournal was there and on and on. I think I got the opportunity to moderate the panel because blogging is changing. Now it is PR and news stuff - which isn't as useful.
- Louis Gray
FYI - Allen, this is Mark Evans in the Bay Area, not the Mark Evans of Canada.
- Louis Gray
Robert: Now we have linking rules. If you work for Mike Arrington, you can't link to Mashable. I notice a lot of corrosive effects. Bloggers aren't talking about how to do things, they are talking about the stuff of the day, or who died today. That wouldn't be talked about 8 or 9 years go. Blogging has changed and it has left a hole for a new kind of tech blogger.
- Louis Gray
Jeremiah: This is a natural evolution. The more mainstream social media gets, the more it looks like mainstream media. Robert is trying to use the new tools, always trying to find what's next. This is a natural evolution.
- Louis Gray
Robert: The early brands were not brand-averse, but they were averse to marketing. The voices are not being heard as much. The interesting insight and dirt isn't coming out. Apple is a great example of being secret, prepared and buttoned up. The system has conformed, and we are going to new places to tell each other what we think.
- Louis Gray
Kevin: Here we are going over and over again. I worked for Technorati so I can take the guilt for the Top 100 being there. It changes all the time. The long tail distribution that we have all seen and heard about... there have been changes. Watching the Technorati 100 you could see big changes but also a giant spread of hundreds of millions of blogs that talk about different stuff.
- Louis Gray
Kevin: Techmeme is an illusion of what's on the top.
- Louis Gray
Kevin: You had the idea of subscribing to feeds, but you couldn't do a keyword search to see what some people like. Now you follow a person and say they are interesting and I will follow them. Now social networks are letting you friend and follow. Some of it is heavy social make me feel good stuff. (Kevin is having dinner in SF), but half is following people who are interesting, and you build a sense of trust that draws on a human sense of trust of knowing a person.
- Louis Gray
Kevin: What we find is that we are moving from a world where advertising is a recommendation from someone trying to influence you who you don't trust. Celebrities are halfway fake friends people you think you know, but they can serve a purpose too.
- Louis Gray
Robert: In the early days of blogging, nobody paid me, and nobody sent me products. Now there are people being paid to blog, like by IZEA. Virgin America took people on a flight to write about the new flights. People see the value in this world, and 9 years ago, they didn't have a clue in this world. What do you think of this trend?
- Louis Gray
Robert: What do you think of the corrosive effect of trust?
- Louis Gray
Mark: Why you see so many press releases and other brands like Google, Apple - there is a reason why PR got into social media and blogs, because 100% of their compensation comes from agency fees, not non-working dollars.
- Louis Gray
Louis: So you're the unpaid stenographer? LOL Nice!
- Sheryl
Mark: Every time I create an agency that looks like it is working media, that looks like agency fees are creeping. People who own brands and marketers out there is we need to change how we look at social media in general. You have to act differently, categorically.
- Louis Gray
Mark: I disagree with Kevin directly in terms of an advertiser not being someone you want to hear from.
- Louis Gray
Mark: I think that brands are going to understand how to act in a trustworthy way. The best thing a brand can do is solve customers' problems - providing a solution to a problem. Part of paying bloggers to do things is old behavior.
- Louis Gray
Jeremiah: Robert is paid to do blogging. So if he feels it is bad behavior...
- Louis Gray
Jeremiah: He doesn't promote his employer as much as some other bloggers, and he doesn't do sponsored posts. (Robert)
- Louis Gray
Jeremiah: Often I will write to bloggers or bigger Tweeters and their assistant will respond.
- Louis Gray
Jeremiah: We did research and asked consumers who they trust. 90% said "people like them". Under 10% trusted corporate blogs.
- Louis Gray
Mark: That's because they are operating like corporate blogs.
- Louis Gray
Kevin: How do you push back on Robert's brand? He is a person.
- Louis Gray
(Jeremiah says Robert is a brand and points to the Building 43 shirt)
- Louis Gray
Kevin: To call it a personal brand is to take away that person. He is trustworthy.
- Louis Gray
Mark: The best brands act like people. If you take a look at corporate brands, a company like Foster Farms... how many of you know about Ron Foster? It is an amazing company with homespun, human values. I want to be part of that family. There is a personal side of the brand that a lot of companies have. People come in with passion for the brand, like JetBlue, Comcast, etc.
- Louis Gray
Mark: The more that brands can act like people on Twitter, it personalizes that.
- Louis Gray
Kevin: When you go to Google you are querying a machine and asking for a machine response. On Twitter, you want a human response. If you get an automated response...
- Louis Gray
Kevin: When you type something into Twitter it is a very different thing. You are expressing emotion, and you are joining a human conversation. If you speak in a tacky way, they will respond in a tacky way.
- Louis Gray
Kevin: It is the inversion of a call center - where people are turned into machines. Social sites like Twitter say to be human and respond to these people.
- Louis Gray
Kevin: A lot of this is rethinking it and can we make it more personal, a source of emotional signals for things that you care about.
- Louis Gray
Mark: An emotional thing where brands can live.
- Louis Gray
Jeremiah: How many of you paid a blogger or gave them a product, or took them on a trip or gave them money or a gift certificate? (Five hands in the room go up)
- Louis Gray
Jeremiah: This is happening all throughout media in the history of the industry. This is something that at Forrester, we think is okay to do, so long as it is transparent, and the editorial is authentic. However, most brands are insensitive to it.
- Louis Gray
Robert: I was at a HP event where they brought out a new printer, and they had a Twitter search, and they seeded PR people to add to the stream with positive tweets. We were pretty adept at finding the seeding.
- Louis Gray
Robert: I just did. We also didn't quite figure it out until just after, when we were comparing notes.
- Louis Gray
Mark: It's a headfake. A lot of the time is to be found by the search engines. I agree there are a lot of social filters we are looking for because the algorithm is coming up short.
- Louis Gray
Kevin: The bloggers publish a lot and they link a lot, and it can be problematic. If you search for me, you will only find me. There are other Kevin Marks.
- Louis Gray
Robert: I am the #2 Robert in the world, higher than Robert DeNiro and Robert Kennedy. Google is our new reality.
- Louis Gray
Mark: That's the new reality. What's the oldest tool humans have ever used? An axe? If you search for Axe on Google, you will get the Axe brand and on images, it will be Axe imagery. They have taken over that world, by impacting social media, and redefining that word. That's their reality.
- Louis Gray
Audience member: Wikiality - the reality that we believe in. If enough of us make the suggestions in Google, it becomes the reality and it is an important concept.
- Louis Gray
Audience member 2: To Kevin - I don't hear your accent when you blog. But this doesn't work unless the average schlub is participating in this conversation. There is an asynchronous set of assumption of expectations. How do we balance that out because people engage enthusiastically for their own reasons, not to schill for their brand.
- Louis Gray
Kevin: By the way marketing guys, all this standard stuff like the press release is going to look old.
- Louis Gray
Kevin: When Michael Jackson dies, what you see is emotional outpouring of your friends, not the media's interpretation of that.
- Louis Gray
Robert: The person who took the best photo in Iran took that photo and was in FriendFeed a few hours later, talking about it. Now they are in jail. I have never had a conversation with a Pulitzer Prize award winner who was in an event like that.
- Louis Gray
Robert: There was somebody on Twitter who had a conversation with the doctor of Neda. We can participate in the news without having to go through filters and media.
- Louis Gray
Robert: Now the PR people can talk directly to us, like through Techmeme, instead of through Walt Mossberg.
- Louis Gray
Mark: There are a lot of things that marketing will do that won't have a compelling event. There's nothing like the brief that says, "make it viral". It's bad.
- Louis Gray
Mark: We are trying to take a potential for relevance. We know events will happen, like holidays and an election, which brands can anticipate.
- Louis Gray
Mark: Part of what we are doing is trying to gain potential for relevance.
- Louis Gray
Mark: Part of what we are doing with microformatting and social media spaces is the potential to become relevant, and be driven by demand.
- Louis Gray
(Jeremiah looking down at his cell phone)
- Louis Gray
Kevin: If you think of organic growth, and how that works, there are strategies to spread information in different ways. The plant has a seed that turns into something tasty that you can carry around and put somewhere else. What if you have a message that people will want to give to their friends?
- Louis Gray
Kevin: What kind of campaign am I doing. Am I trying to nurture something that will grow?
- Louis Gray
Audience Member: What about Verizon talking to the New York Times talking about customers? What about using real word of mouth conversations by consumers from forums?
- Louis Gray
Robert: One of my favorite bloggers, Steve Rubel, is getting out of blogging and will be doing lifestream.
- Louis Gray
Kevin: Back in 2001-02, blogs are what we had. I could post it to the Web and get comments.
- Louis Gray
Kevin: What happens is those practices have now spread out and are going to other places. The idea of activity streams is a unique one, and you can see that in Twitter.
- Louis Gray
Kevin: There is this idea of I am doing something, and I want it to flow somewhere else. It is the same practice as blogging, but it is now something else. The point is that if you want to think about network architecture, a lot of people assumed it was more download than upload, and they got it backwards.
- Louis Gray
Kevin: We are now shifting to where we upload more than we download. You can take photos with things in your pocket. You can send up more than you can download.
- Louis Gray
Robert: YouTube has said mobile uploads have increased 400% in the last 7 days, thanks to the new iPhone 3GS.
- Louis Gray
I've gotten approached a few times to do paid blog posts (haven't yet - will disclose if I ever do)
- Jesse Stay
Robert: The marketing of the future will have to create events that capture distribution. Obama's inauguration almost took down the Internet.
- Louis Gray
Robert: Obama's inauguration was a video event, where people were streaming live video over the Internet. In contrast, Twitter and Michael Jackson is only 10 Gigs a day.
- Louis Gray
Mark: When we set up Twitter accounts for our client, not all followers are equal. Some have super influence. If you do set up a Twitter and Facebook class, consider a concierge class, and shine light on someone who will speak passionately.
- Louis Gray
Mark: The @ Sign and DMs are very important for communication and a back channel.
- Louis Gray
Mark: With 10 people, we reached a million and got 1,000 responses, from fans that have super influence and a high affinity for you, who will come to your aid if a brand is under attack.
- Louis Gray
This whole blogging thing has gotten me thinking like a marketer quite often. Before I figured marketing was just a career I wasn't interested in and had little to do with. Now I know the rudiments of online marketing and actively use them to better engage my desired audience.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Mark: We have a lot of brands on auto-follow, which is fine. We couldn't do it in e-mail before. We never knew what would happen, but now we can see that in real time.
- Louis Gray
So I see a post like this and I'm thinking "pfft, marketing" and then I remember "oh yeah, Marketing!" and so I'm still reading.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Robert: You could see the spread with a Web bug in email, but you could never get the emotion in an e-mail.
- Louis Gray
Kevin: My job is not to be an evangelist, it's to be a product advocate. That was a very deliberate choice.
- Louis Gray
Kevin: I need to get a sense of what is going on, and gain a message to convey for a complex set of standards, and can I explain it.
- Louis Gray
(Audience member asks Mark about the social aspect of Foster Farms)
- Louis Gray
Mark: You'll see. The brand people, PR people, IT people are involved... everything takes longer as a result. We will be expressing the human side of the brand, and like Forrester said, how people go to people.
- Louis Gray
Mark: We heard from moms how that would change their perception. A brand is a premium between commodity, and through emotion, a fair price that a marketer needs to earn.
- Louis Gray
(Follow-up: How do you get conversations that are valid, not a stunt)
- Louis Gray
Mark: We came up with a communication strategy that will add value to the moms. We can create an impact that is significant that will happen right at grocery. They are trying to understand the effect, not just impression and buzz. How can they effect sales?
- Louis Gray
I'd imagine "valid" conversations involve some sort of threading or aggregation so individual commenters can see and respond to one another. In other words, FF threads over tweets flying past each other unknowingly.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Robert: I just interviewed Gary V of WineLibrary TV. They were not going to grow their local market much more, so he started to do the video show. He creates the need in your head for a product that you didn't know you wanted. He has a social network, where you can argue, is he telling you the truth?
- Louis Gray
Mark: Most marketers should follow Gary just to learn about marketing. He can drive nuggets of what he does and why he does it.
- Louis Gray
Robert: TechCrunch is doing video with a lot of its posts now. Creating an experience that looks good on a flip cam is a different experience than creating text on a blog.
- Louis Gray
These are the perfect participants for this panel.
- Jesse Stay
(BTW - I am not getting every word and sentence. Call it live editing)
- Louis Gray
Audience Member: Social media has fundamentally changed marketing. But brands understand products and services, but they don't understand how products are used in the real world. Those companies that do social well use their own products.
- Louis Gray
Robert: The common thing I see between companies doing well in this space is that they have set up their whole system is to do something remarkable that is becoming social. You have the best service. (Examples: Zappos and Tiny Prints)
- Louis Gray
Robert: Zappos forces every new employee to Twitter. During your training period, you have to Twitter, so you can be empowered to represent your brand in public. The janitor is never ever going to talk about the company. Look at Apple! At Zappos, everybody can talk on behalf of the company.
- Louis Gray
Jeremiah: There is a danger at looking at what consumers say and having that drive your company, because that looks at the last three products - not the future. Tony at Zappos can do that with his company, but that's not going to happen at Hitachi.
- Louis Gray
Mark: I don't care if you have 10 people or 1,000 people, it is very hard to do that.
- Louis Gray
Jeremiah: If you build your product based on what Robert likes on his blog, then you make him happy, but it might not be smart.
- Louis Gray
Audience Member: If you look at FriendFeed, Robert is a very passionate user, but they cannot listen to him because he is different, and it hasn't yet crossed the chasm.
- Louis Gray
Audience Member: Sometimes the loudest user seems like the only user. We get a lot of mixed reviews, but there will be 200 reviews, and 1/3 are bad, not because it is a bad place, but because there aren't that many people reviewing. If you have a Google or YouTube, it is going to come out in the wash.
- Louis Gray
Mark: One of the big ideas we are bringing to our clients is to help facilitate our brand ambassadors. A lot of conversations can come to your Web site. How does a small company understand that in a world of hundreds of million dollar or billion dollar brands? In the long tail, somebody has built a blog post about it.
- Louis Gray
Robert: That's what I am doing with Building 43: Is trying to reach out to businesses that are not embedded in the social Web yet.
- Louis Gray
Kevin: There's also the problem of knowing somebody I can trust. The two paths that are coming are geographical filtering, and through friends. How can you get recommendations from people you actually trust?
- Louis Gray
Kevin: If you look at things that are easy for people to understand. (Example: FourSquare) You get points for saying you are at places. There is this idea of rewarding people for making social actions, to learn where their friends are.
- Louis Gray
Jeremiah: You should be searching for people who have a certain lifestyle. (Fish where the fish are)
- Louis Gray
Audience member: If you want to be relevant, your brand needs to provide value. The biggest mistake people are making is that they are pushing their brand and not adding value, but they are not engaging.
- Louis Gray
Jeremiah: If your restaurant set up all the events on Upcoming, you will be associated with it.
- Louis Gray
Mark: The best thing you can do is set yourself up to be the best friend of the user.
- Louis Gray
Robert: There is a taco truck in LA that tweets its location on Twitter and sells out every single day.
- Louis Gray
Audience member: I do my research on Twitter because I don't want to go to Google and find dead links or outdated links.
- Louis Gray
Robert: Have a sign in your store and say, "Are you a Twitter user?" Everybody is going to follow you who you tweet about. They are going to see that in their Twitter and their referral logs.
- Louis Gray
Mark: Your @ and Your /name is the new dotcom. I think you can do the @ and let the insiders know you are out there. Businesses have to learn how to do that.
- Louis Gray
Audience member: Do you know examples of B2B and partnering space that have had successes?
- Louis Gray
Jeremiah: Your trick at Cisco is to create marketing materials that are useful for your channel partners and sales force (interrupted by audience member)
- Louis Gray
Kevin: If you have a set of information, get people to respond to that. You need someone who can provide the expertise to the channel.
- Louis Gray
Pretty hard to hide in the back of the room when the entire panel is on FriendFeed. :-)
- Jesse Stay
Thanks for covering this. It was an interesting read. Parts of the discussion reminded me of that Mark Zuckerberg interview by Sarah Lacy. That was the first moment I realized that we (the internet users that have been posting to forums, blogs, etc. for years) can no longer sit back and passively consume information. We expect the freedom to speak up and have been conditioned to believe...
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- Chip Ramsey
Louis: great notes! Thanks for doing that.
- Robert Scoble
Really great job live friendfeeding. that's the first time I've ever said that. "Live friendfeeding"
- Jeremiah Owyang
Thanks Robert and Jeremiah for participating in the panel and commenting here. FriendFeed is a great tool for live blogging, and very flexible. Note I took this thread and posted it to louisgray.com as well when completed.
- Louis Gray
Louis - thank you for doing this "live friendfeeding." Great to finally meet you in person last night and look forward to you being on the panel in August.
- Bill Sanders
Thanks for doing these great notes, Louis - I should take Jeremiah's advice and blog more myself
- Kevin Marks
blogging as we know it is dying...it's evolving to be a bigger value chain of activities...
- John Furrier
Louis: Thank you so much for coming out last night! And, WOW! thank you for taking incredible event notes.
- Mark Evans
Great "FriendFeed Casting" thread by @Louis Gray of Am.Marketing Association event panel incl. @JOwyang @Scobleizer
- Alex Schleber
The sync between iPhone and desktop on TweetDeck is a cool feature
- rshore
so far my favorite is Reportage. I have tweetdeck installed, but i find it difficult to read, not so with any other twitter client. TweetDeck remains on of my 2 favorite desktop clients, the other being the web client TwitZap.com
- Guess Who
Tweetdeck if they can squash the bugs because the syncing is good news. Tie between Tweetie and Twittelator for now.
- Warner Crocker
Tweetie is favorite for best duplicating the desktop experience. But Tweetdeck has great potential with the syncing feature. It crashes too much right now.
- Curt Moss
I've been happy using twitterfon, but I've been playing with tweetdeck, it looks like I might have to switch, syncing is a killer feature
- Ken Power
I use Tweetie. The reviews I've seen of Tweetdeck make it seem a bit too much for the iPhone. Are those reviews wrong?
- Curt Mercadante
Tweetdeck is the only iPhone app for twitter
- planetMitch
I'm still sticking with Twitteriffic. I moved over to Twitterfon because it started lacking with features, but moved back when it finally got the update it so needed. Don't really know why i like it so much, just always have. Just wish they'd update the desktop version too.
- Simon Wicks
Photogene because I can brand my photos with a text bubble before I upload.
- Craig Shipp
Twittelator Pro: myriad of features including URL inline minification/expansion; configurable RT format, pic provider, URL minifier; copy&paste; saving drafts; tweet URLs from Safari; and many more. one of the best apps I have purchased.
- Dennis Homann
Has crashed when using its browser feature
- Mark Traphagen
My must have iPhone Apps are: > Tweetie > TwitterLink - Allows Safari URL Shortening via bookmarklets > TweetDeck Hopefully TweetDeck can incorporate a few of the missing compenents which are keeping me from dropping the other two apps.
- Josh
Still tweetie. Tried others as they emerge, but the familliar interface to a desktop client, search, find user, favorite, trends all make it very powerful. A rework of the RT vs. Via is in order, but I can live with that.
- Erik Boles
Definately TweetDeck since it's been launched
- Michiel Sikkes
TweetDeck on the iPhone looks great, but I think it's pretty buggy. I constantly get the same notifications displayed and my groups got messed up (and then synced back to the desktop). But I'm looking forward to the next version.
- Oliver Bouchard
Twitterrific without hesitating. Tried TweetDeck but still a little buggy in my opinion.
- Nuno Ferreira
I use Twitterific and I'm pretty fine with it/
- Parth Awasthi
Tweetie. And, judging from the desktop client, it's only going to get better.
- Justin Hileman
Twittelator. No other iphone app is as feature rich as this one. It also works well with backgrounder (from cydia).
- Rohit
I went from Twittelator to Tweetie and now to Tweetdeck on iPhone. Tweetdeck is the best thing out there right now IMO for hardcore tweeting, However, Tweetie still rules as a simple, elegant, beautiful UI, client for everyone else.
- Dean Kakridas
Tweetie. TweetDeck for iPhone is nice and is a smooth port from desktop to smartphone, but Tweetie is cleaner to me, not as dark or cluttered.
- David Price
Alex: yeah I use friendfeed a lot more than other Twitter clients, even on my iPhone.
- Robert Scoble
i tried tweetdeck but i like Twittelator Pro more
- Crusader
Switched to Tweetdeck after using Twitfon and Twitterific
- Jim Haw
Tweetdeck, recent convert from tweetie. It crashes when you add someone to a group column is all.
- Jay McCormack
TweetDeck needs Ping.fm integration for selective posting..it feels the lightest of the iPhone Twitter apps and feature wise I think it may now be the most complete..2nd fave is Tweetie.
- George Dearing
I'm liking Tweetdeck also but I bounce around from Twitterific to Tweetie also. Like the multiple columns in Tweetdeck.
- Jeff Gamble
Definitely Tweetdeck.. I wish I hadn't paid for tweetie..
- Can Koklu
TweetDeck after using TwitterFon for a while. Never used Tweetie and probably won't now. Background notifications on the iPhone would be cool. I can use it for @replys or DMs.
- Rolf Schewe
Sadly, I don't have an iphone. Anyone know of a good free symbian app?
- Pranav Bhasin
still using tweetie - have tweetdeck if I need to reference through my groups. but when i am mobile i usually only have time to pay attention to replies and directs - so speed and such is more important. Tweetie wins for me.
- Tony
I like Tweetie. Nice streamlined interface. Although Tweetdeck is nice, I just haven't used it as much since it came out.
- John Fox
I am still using Tweetie but just installed TweetDeck.. seems cool.
- nickgs
Love new tweetdeck on iPhone but it's too crashy, darn it!
- Susan Beebe
No mention of Nambu here. I use that on MacBook. Anyone use their iPhone client? What do you like/dislike about it?
- Larry Hawes
I have tried Nambu but use Twittelator Pro and occasionally Twitterific. Tweetdeck would have to be exceptionally good to be better than either of those.
- Gilbert Harding
Tried Tweetdeck (which is my desktop app) on iPhone for a couple of days. Too fiddly. Went back to Twitterfon. Really compact and streamlined. Now trying out Flock on desktop instead if Firefox/Tweetdeck combo.
- Narain Jashanmal
Although I have been playing with tweetdeck these past few days, I would still vote for tweetie
- Thomas Chai
@Pranav Bhasin: Gravity is a good twitter app for symbian.
- Hugh Macdonald
I'm using Tweetie, but edging closer to trying Tweetdeck. Tweetie does do everything I need right now.
- Martha
TweetDeck! Used to be Tweetie, but TweetDeck is far better!
- Farrell Kramer
I use TwitterFon (nonPro), but have been trying TweetDeck out. It is a little buggy as so far it has crashed out everytime I have used it, but I know this is v1 so am sure it will get better. I actually really like the interface as it is very well thought out. My only other gripe is that you need to go into a tweet's detail to go to a hyperlink, as opposed to twitterfon (and tweetie...
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- travispuk
Twitterrific 2.0 (The $4 Premium version). The UI is just spectacular. Combining all your replies and DMs in one stream, but still allowing them to be viewed separately, makes it really easy to interact with Twitter as a stream. Plus, more often than not, I find myself using the multi-post window to easily switch a DM to a reply, or vice versa. It's just great.
- David Chartier
Twitterrific 2.0 , tweetie and Tweetdeck in that order
- Wayne Sutton
TweetDeck, despite the occasional crashing, is my favorite right now.
- Paul Maez
Tweetdeck for sure. I like the feel and look of it.
- John Ford
Twitterrific and twitterfon for picking ppl across tweets to thank.
- Dave Blankenship
from BuddyFeed
I use Tweetie. I tried TweetDeck but it crashed when doing what should have been simple operations.
- Michael Koby
Reportage has a very refreshing approach. I love it
- Guillaume Thoreau
oh Robert Robert... you should really add a poll to your threads from time to time :) as for your question: I have to say that TweetDeck is not my fav until someone new will launch a better app.
- Orli Yakuel
I use Nambu because of Friendfeed integration, but if TweetDeck gets this I would definitely switch
- Alberto Saavedra
from Nambu
Had Twitterific and TwitterFon for seperate accts, but TweetDeck is the best of the bunch.
- Dave Martinez
I bought Tweetie, but it seems limited after using other Twitter apps. My favorite is SimplyTweet, lots of features that work well and is being updated often.
- Brandon
from BuddyFeed
I was a Tweetie guy, but Tweetdeck may be replacing it for me.
- Joey Gibson
I played with TweetDeck and liked it, but I simply don't use all of the custom panel stuff that it does, so Tweetie does the job for me just fine. The UI is awesome, responsive and (above all) simple. It does exactly what I want and, more importantly, what I expect it to do.
- Brett Kelly
Tweetie : very stable and reliable. Does need a refresh but nice customization options make it for that.
- Ashish
TweetDeck is my favourite app for the iPhone, although Tweetie is a close second. The sync feature and what I think is slightly better navigation through the different columns put TweetDeck ahead. TweetDeck is also free, which if I hadn't already bought Tweetie, may have had some importance.
- Antoniu
I like Tweetie because if I get behind or want to see older tweets, I can just click "More" and it loads more of them. Can't figure out how to do that on the desktop version of TweetDeck, so I'm assuming teh iPhone version doesn't do it either.
- RobinDotNet
I like Tweetie. I tried the new TweetDeck and couldn't get into it. So my combo is seesmic on the desktop and Tweetie on the iPhone. We'll see what happens when seesmic introduces their iPhone app, though.
- Josh Asbury
Was twitterfon fan but the Tweetdeck groups sync is a winner.
- Gregory Go
from iPhone
I think newspapers have actually done a decent job of evolving through things like CNN. Also, I think, on the whole, newspaper web sites are generally quite good. Remember, if you turn newspapers into web sites, they are not newspapers anymore. Print on paper is a compelling format..
- Wilma Stoneflint
I was reading a NY Times article today, about the Pritzker architecture award presented to an obscure Swiss architect. It included NO pictures, nothing I could see, about a man the NYT admitted most people knew nothing about. This is "old style" journalism.
- Stan Scott
No, John. Can you imagine a book on architecture prizes and the people who won them WITHOUT any pictures of their buildings? I can't.
- Stan Scott
Judging from recent appearances by several newspaper "luminaries", denial is not just a river in Egypt :) ..theirs runs DEEP.
- Alex Schleber
I actually never thought about Twitter when writing headlines. I usually just end up rewriting the headline anyway. Usually into a question. Why don't I just do that in the first place? Cuz I like to do stuff the hard way, that's why
- Rah-PM 2012
I write my headlines for friendfeed. That way no one will read them.
- Robert Scoble
Did Robert just type something? Because I don't see it.
- Louis Gray
I write my headlines for my Mom. And other regular readers of my blog. If Google or Twitter likes the headlines, nice, if not, I don't care.
- Bora Zivkovic
I am with Bora. Mine are targeted at friends and readers who might appreciate that particular headline.
- Deepak Singh
I also don't import my blog RSS into Twitter - I don't like when others do it either. I don't see T as a broadcast place, but a conversation parlor.
- Bora Zivkovic
This probably has something to do with that phrase "monetize the blog" ;-) Being on Scienceblogs.com, I am listed on Google News, so I don't have to worry about traffic. I don't think I (or most people) can earn money on the blog itself - but the blog is a tool to get known, so paying gigs fall into your lap (they do to me...). It is your PR, not the actual source of income. Thus no need to game the Googles....
- Bora Zivkovic
Facebook actually gave me my first singles ad this week. I've been Facebook-married since day 1 and they've always respected that and given me ads that men of my age and interests typically go for. Not sure who screwed up there... I've come to expect Facebook's awesome targeting. It would be nice if other sites used my FB info to target ads to me, but I imagine there would be a lot of public resistance to that.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Oops - I didn't delete the Google Reader share! (per usual practice) and Daniel already commented on it. :) Facebook didn't give me the singles ad this time, it was ESPN, but I figure somebody should check their notes and get it right.
- Louis Gray
Honestly I thought I was commenting on the blog entry that I'd seen up 60 seconds earlier. The favicon-less FF beta strikes again!
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Your post adequately explained that you were miffed with ESPN's ads Louis; it seems my comment wasn't as clear. All I was saying is that FB has long been a reliable source of accurately targeted ads, so much so that I was jarred to see a completely irrelevant singles ad shown to me. Any other site does that and I don't even blink.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
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- Thomas Power
and guess what?! They're all going to have to have actual business models or at least real business ideas too. Wheat will separate from chaff pretty damn quick.
- Cathy Brooks
from twhirl
Too true, Cathy, which means that the companies that do make it will be adding real value to the economy.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Please don't let me ever see another Slide
- Jesse Stay
Can't agree more. Developers are turning out new stuff daily .... that works!
- Charlie Anzman
Being fiscally responsible from the start of a startup really does help you build a much more successful business later.
- Douglas Karr
from twhirl
A lot more focus on building real business vs. just acquiring more funds
- ws
and a real focus on selling a product and/or service instead of going cap in hand to advertisers.
- alphaxion
I agree, I think it could be a very exciting time to be an entrepreneur.
- Shaun Haney
it is an exciting time to be an entrepreneur for sure. I'm excited...
- Scott Lockhart
"Gmail is not the only Google-based web application where you may be storing personal data. Your files stored in Google Docs should be protected, too. But are they?"
- Anthony Farrior
from Bookmarklet
Same here. I could do without the landline - if it wasn't necessary for internet because it's only available bundled from my provider...
- Holger Eilhard
I only use my cell phone. My number is +1-425-205-1921. I don't even know what my home line's number is.
- Robert Scoble
@Robert: Same here... I have a local number for my cell too, which makes calling from/to the cell as cheap as the landline if I'm somewhere close to my home address. But I always have to look up the number when someone asks for a cheaper way to call my cell...
- Holger Eilhard
I ditched my landline phone two years ago. Using Skype and a $4/month IP phone.
- Jesper Jazzper Isaksson
I'm ready to ditch our landline. We get a great deal on international calls through vonage though, so we're not quite ready to yet.
- Jen (SquirrelGirl)
It's not worth the risk to me: "...some, but not all, long-term studies have suggested slightly increased risks for certain types of brain tumors. Further evaluation of long-term exposures (more than 10 years) is needed." http://www.cancer.gov/cancert...
- Laura Norvig
Cut ours 5 years ago. Can't believe this stuff is still news. No one calls a house.
- Kevin Gamble
My Neighbor still has a land line. I can hear the phone ring in the hallway. LULz Means it is still be used in some place!! :) I use VOIP for my phone!! ;)
- Paul
We've been using VOIP for a few years. I'm dropping it soon b/c beeps & interference can be horrible during busy internet times. Computers get preference over phones during heavy load times. Just looking for the right SmartPhone.
- Liz Tufte
I feel like I am stuck with a landline because we have kids at school. I feel like cells aren't great for emergencies for some reason... I know I'm being silly. But we have DSL so I suppose dropping it wouldn't work anyway.
- Christine Cavalier
Thinking I will ditch mine for the new year. I do worry about in an emergency though. And what if my cell phone dies. what to do then?
- Amani
@jason fwiw, that's not universally true. I work for a telco and we do not offer DSL without dialtone in most of our service areas. Personally I just have a cellphone these days.
- matthew john ernisse
No landline here for the past two years. Don't see the need
- Deepak Singh
@Matthew I thought the FCC required that now? Maybe it was just for the AT&T merger, though. I thought it was fairly universal now.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
ONLY one in six? Cmon people! I haven't had a home phone in more than 2 years, and never missed it.
- david pavlicko
I've been a mobile phone user for 15 years with the same number. All my friends, family and colleagues use that number to get in touch with me. I abandoned my land line about almost a decade ago once I got a broadband cable connection and didn't require dial-up.
- Troy Forster
How's the situation with cell phones and 911 calls (location handling)? That used to be a sticking issue with some people...
- Glenn Batuyong
been landline-free for at least a year, no reason to have one anymore...
- Nathan Chase
I reckon the figures must be even higher in the UK. There are so many deals with massive cross-network call allowances, people don't really calculate the cost of making calls anymore.
- David Owens