+102 for Bill Waterson references in picture Kevin or words Sinterclas
- Steve C
cute but what happened to festivus this year?
- Laura Norvig
Merry Christmas to the FriendFeed team. You guys rock! FriendFeed reacts quickly and you're adding wonderful features all the time (Thanks soooo much for the "edit" feature.)
- Mitchell Tsai
Happy Holidays FF crue -- you've made this an excellent and memorable year for many of us. Facebook couldn't have done it without you! :)
- Christopher Galtenberg
w00t you gave me the best online year in 15 years!!! ;p Thanks a lot, everyone, for what you've done here XD
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
Sigh. Sometimes it is the little touches, like seasonal logos or easter eggs, that mark a site as a living project, and that you really miss when the developers have all moved on to something else.
- Michael R. Bernstein
I normally welcome people when I get over 10-15 followers .. but only say "Welcome followers.. Enjoy stalking me"
- Tyler (Chacha)
I'm with Raoul. I'd have to unfollow, and I do not unfollow. Then again, I go to Twitter so rarely, and I follow so many that I might not notice.
- MiniMage - HLtW
Well, you guys do understand that it's all totally automated, so there's no work involved. I think it's an excellent way to piss off your other followers on Twitter.
- Michael Forian
Its a quick way to get rid of everyone following you, thats for sure
- Tyler (Chacha)
There is nothing wrong with it. Its a way to expose people to other people.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Stupid. Reward should be something else.
- Robert Scoble
If you want to expose people to me, you have to tell me why they are interesting in the message. I'm not just going to go click on them.
- Tyler (Chacha)
If that's all you've got to offer, I've got no reason to follow.
- shaun mclane
although i would love it if new followers would tell me why they added me, cause it still puzzles the hell out of me!
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I think a lot of people don't have a specific reason. Maybe they found you from a friend or something. Some people just like to have a lot of voices
- Tyler (Chacha)
What shaun said. Whenever someone follows me, I go to their page to scan and see if I should follow in return. When I see an entire page that looks like what you've shared here, I tend NOT to follow that person. Why not DM them with the "welcome" message?
- Herb Hernandez
well, *there's* the use for DMs i've been looking for, if ever there was one.
- idnan
too much - no need to welcome peeps. It would be a chore for me. Chore = no fun. I wouldn't follow someone who had all that crap in their timeline either. Just engage and if you make connections, let them come naturally. NO automated DMs please!
- BEX
It's not my favorite way to thank people. It feels a little "loud" and impersonal. DM is my preference.
- Melinda Augustina
I don't like tweets about follower numbers or follower welcoming - to me they are something halfway between bragging and noise
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I don't like tweets about followers, but what I truly and completely HATE is the auto-DM "welcome." I get them and want to instantly unfollow the person who sent it.
- Joey Gibson
@gibson yeah I think I might switch that off, it seems so in genuine
- sofarsoShawn
Well, it seems a bit automatic, so that's not particularly appealing to me. But every once in a while it's handy. You see something interesting and click it and you're glad you did.
- Melinda Augustina
I agree with Melinda, it seems to be automatic. I would expect a few personal words about my blog, my tweets or somethings else.
- Birger Hartung
I don't Tweet, but I do Deviant Art and FF, as well as Bloglog.. and I try to thank people, but a lot of the time I'm too busy checking out what other exciting things there are to see. I don't know if people get angry or upset over not being thanked, but I know that I don't, I didn't even realize it was a recommended action for the longest time!
- arekayelle
Why would you thank people for following you? Do you also thank people who subscribe to your RSS feeds? They're following you because they want to see what you write. They're not your friends unless you actually know them. I'm not sure where people got the idea that Twitter was some sort of numbers contest or something, but if that's all you use it for, then why bother using it at all?
- Otto
I don't think I would have the time to do that on a regular basis, but that's only me.
- MedicalQuack
Frankly, I could care less. I can't control who likes or doesn't like my stuff, and I'd just assume not bother.
- Helen Sventitsky
I don't either--I keep seeing dialog about people noticing that "so&so blocked me..." and can't help but wonder--How do you know (without going out of your way)--why do you care?
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
I don't really care who un-follows or who does. I like when people do follow me, but if someone un-follows it's their business and there's not much I can do to change their mind about it.
- Jon, the Beartato of '10
I'm not even sure how I *could* track that even if I were interested.
- Mattie Kenny
Energy put forth for who blocks you, or unfollows or hides you, seems like energy wasted... if you mention why you're doing it in a public fashion, I might care. Otherwise, there's better things to spend energy on, clearly.
- Colin Charles
from twhirl
I've only blocked three people on FriendFeed; one for using my feed content to spread crap about me, and two for other, more personal reasons. Again, it's the discretion of the user, and it's not my business as to why they do or do not.
- Helen Sventitsky
As far as I know, there's no way for me to tell who blocks or unfollows me unless I keep a list of my followers and check against that list to see if everyone is still on there.
- Rochelle
Didn't even know that was an option. But now that I do: nah.
- Type Micah
I only keep track of who is following me so that I can follow them back.
- Colide81 (James)
No. If someone chooses not to read me, they're probably wise. No one can please everybody.
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
I only noticed someone blocked me today on Twitter because someone was upset about my tweet and as I was attempting to reply Twitter told me I was blocked.
- Andrew Trinh
from Nambu
I checked by following them, I knew I was following them before and wasn't at that instance. Twitter provided an alert saying I wasn't allowed to follow them any more.
- Andrew Trinh
Didn't even know I could do it... :)
- Jordi Soler
I review every single new follower and block folks who have no apparent reason to care about what I'm saying. I wish I could force their follow to be "private", so that their face doesn't show on my page and my follower count isn't incremented. The Twitter gods have not provided such a feature. (I don't care at all who unfollows or blocks me.)
- Richard Soderberg
I've tried one or 2 things on Twitter but turned up them almost immediately. Basically no, not worried in the slightest, they have their reasons to unfollow I'll just carry on what I do. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Steve, I love that I made a cameo in your post. I only wish my short URL was more inspired.
- Scott Gatz
Finally! Yay! Wish Twitter had this a long time ago. That's the reason I never use full links that get converted. I change the www. to w3 .website.com and that way everyone can see the full link still and copy and paste it if they want to view the site. I got annoyed at clicking on duplicate TinyURLs.
- Adam
I use the greasemonkey script tinyurl-ru at http://kapranoff.ru/friendf... but it only covers tinyurl.com and tinyurl.ru | Maybe we should do a community project that keeps updating that script with all those url-shorteners out there. | Alex, are you game?
- ĎÚβĨŐÚŚ Dod
Is this a feature that friendfeed removed? Because it's not working in Chrome.
- James Poling
I don't see any short URL's in FriendFeed anymore. all are automatically expanded.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Jesse: you can add a tag as a word in a comment. Here's my tag for this post, for instance: salt lake city jesse -- now go and search for any of those words and it'll pull up this post.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, comments are comments - do we want to be polluting those as well? Another thing FriendFeed needs is people-tagging, so you get notified if I want you to see something and you're following me.
- Jesse Stay
I should add that Twitter needs these things too, but I've given up on Twitter doing anything revolutionary in a timely manner.
- Jesse Stay
@Jesse: I am in strong belief that Twitter will add support for pics after a decade or few... then they'll start considering video support ;)
- Jemm
Jesse: I agree with you, but sort of disagree too. I'd far rather have track than tagging of items or people. But I want those too.
- Robert Scoble
Exactly, you're just right with this feature request. To really work on all this information you've got on friendfeed, we need tags. Comment's are great but not enough to refer back, even if their are searchable
- Gilles Meiers
@Prolific Programmer: That's true if you refer to both sides reports. However the Al Jazeera network break the rules. Here's a Facebook app to add: http://apps.facebook.com/qassamc...
- Nir Ben Yona
@Ben Yona Is your second comment sarcastic?
- TunisianGuy
@NirBenYona al-Jazeera is a lot better than most news outlets. They regularly have Israeli MKs alongside Hammas members. I can't say the same for BBC World or CNN International, which give the view that the Palestenians ought to be happy Israel's giving them the little sliver of land that is Gaza.
- Prolific Programmer
If you are running Livestation (http://www.livestation.com) you can watch Al Jazeera English service and enter their real time chat room, even talking to a few reporters. Lots of shouting over there
- Andrew Leyden
@Prolific Programmer: presumably the BBC World stance is to balance out their domestic coverage (separately funded) which runs entire features without deviating from a pro-Hamas line - obsessively covering "deaths" (omitting the nature thereof) while ignoring the ongoing attacks on Israel. Hence the protests today in London all calling on Israel to ignore the aggression, rather than calling for Hamas to stop the attacks or disband.
- James
Hey, we continue to celebrate a week apart. My son Doug beat you to 44 in December. I achieve 70 week from Sunday. Enjoying myself over that.
- Dennis E. Hamilton
from twhirl
Ahh...what to do? Robert said there was no need to wish him a happy b'day, but I do this for others; why should I exclude him? and everyone else is doing it...I know; happy Scoble's birthday, fellow FriendFeeders!
- MiniMage - HLtW
Happy Birthday, Robert!! Hope you enjoy your day and weekend. :)
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
Happy Birthday! If you were in Atlanta it would have been a snowy (predicted) birthday, not to mention a kewl place to celebrate in, home to Coca-Cola, CDC, Lockheed Martin and our very own Ted Turner's creation CNN. :-) [edited]
- Moushumi Kabir
Happy Birthday Robert! Enjoy your day!
- Laura Zickus
Wait. I thought you were 10 years older than me. Then I realized you were 10 years younger!! Now I find out you're my age? I am suddenly hopeful! Yes we 44yr- olds can! .......Hey Robert, seriously, I wish you another 56 healthy years. Happy Birthday! ♫
- Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
Wishing you a great one Robert. Thanks for all you do for the Internet. I loved your interview with Seth Godin, you 2 were great together.
- Jeremy Campbell
from twhirl
@Jeremy Campbell - do you have a link to that interview?
- Peter Warnock
Happy Birthday! Hooray for 1965! (My birthday is still a few weeks away, in March.)
- vicster is...
Scobleizer, time to CELEBRATE-You have so much ahead of you, b/c what's behind you was great!! Thanks for all the great insight!!
- Harold Cabezas
I can never shake the idea that thinnest = fragile. But my 17 inch notebook is too heavy and I hesitate to carry it around, so I understand the attraction. I *wish* someone made a 15" again with a 1920x1600 res screen again, I'd buy *that*
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
What use is any 17 inch laptap? Too big to be portable and too small to be a useful desktop.
- Brian Sullivan
@kenton do they? excellent news! IBM/lenovo used to but they stopped, because screen size seems to be what people buy, not resolution (that's why you cant find a 17" LCD monitor at 1920x1600 Or even a 19". As you can guess i dont like pixels i can see)
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Yeah, can't say this is on my list to buy
- Benny Wong
@joelle I think you need to go to the Studio line with a 256MB video card. Nice screens too, very similar to new Macbooks for colour and contrast.
- Kenton
found them - shame there's no higher graphics card option, but that's a pretty neat package for the price. --tip toes out of hijacked mac topic--
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
0.98 inches. Shorter is the new better?
- Chris Messina
Not for me. Tiny low priced netbooks are hot and apple introduces a $3000 17 inch laptop. Go figure.
- Shannon Carver
Maybe SUVs will make a comeback too.
- Steve Rubel
As long as a laptop is portable, I could give a crap about how thin it is. Rather have more function, lack of limitations, good performance, connectability as a priority. Wouldn't kick it out of bed though.
- Kevin Leroux
Title's wrong... it's the "world's thinnest 17" laptop", not the "world's thinnest laptop."
- Wade Dorrell
"With both engines out, Higgins said, flight attendants described complete silence in the cabin, "like being in a library." A smoky haze and the odor of burning metal or electronics filled the plane."
- Tamar Weinberg
The plane came to a stop. The captain gave a one-word command, "Evacuate."
- Tamar Weinberg
I can't even imagine this. Years ago I met my cousins best friend whose parents were the sole surivors of a plane crash many, many years ago. I've never asked, but their story has to be astounding. These people are so fortunate to have survived this!
- Adriana
2. Google Chrome is a rethink. IE8 is a bug fix.
- Robert Scoble
3. Google Chrome has one box. IE 8 has two.
- Robert Scoble
Google Chrome is very light weight (including the UI)
- Vaibhav
4. Google Chrome works better with Google Reader and other AJAX sites.
- Robert Scoble
5. IE8 has too many menus and icons. Gives a real cluttered feel.
- Robert Scoble
IE's been a glorified bug fix since MS relabeled it from Mosaic, Robert - no secret there. :) I'm loving Chrome.
- teleken
WebKit is a really good rendering engine. I've always secretly wished IE8 would use WebKit as their rendering engine and scrap IE rendering, and somehow incorporate ActiveX and all of the IE features into it, since WebKit is open-source, not tied to a specific competitor (as opposed to Gecko and Firefox) and is fast and stable. – Have to agree about Google Chrome as well. It's a great browser. As much as I love Safari, I wish Chrome would come to Mac sooner :)
- Mark Bao
6. Google Chrome's search integration is magic. Start typing something and it figures out what you want. IE8 waits for you to finish, then brings up a boring web page.
- Robert Scoble
When it finally works on a Mac, perhaps I'll believe you ;)
- Jeff
If it didn't bug someone it wouldn't still be Internet Explorer.
- Josh Sharp
Looks like WebKit is the future, all mobile browsers have started using it.
- Vaibhav
Google Chrome and FLASH don't get along!
- paul mooney
Now I just wish Chrome worked better with Flash, or Flash worked better with Chrome.
- Dennis Jackson
Google Chrome is focused on internet. IE seems to mix to much other junk in
- Mike Scott
By the way, I wrote this whole item in IE8 running on Windows 7. If you are still going to use IE, please do get IE8. It is much better than previous versions.
- Robert Scoble
Not a big fan of IE or Chrome... I'll stick with FireFox.
- Steven Sanders
Google Chrome is slick...but I still like the simplicity of FireFox.
- Charlie Flowers
I love Google Chrome, I just wish the addon's started rolling out.
- Michael Fidler
Because the browser is a commodity... Connecting (correction - Deep Integration) with Google's cloud based services is the secret sauce.
- Brian Roy
Charlie: simplicity of Firefox? You've gotta be kidding, right? I love Firefox because of its complexity! (Plugins keep me there a lot of the time).
- Robert Scoble
I still need to play with Chrome in order to form an educated opinion. I'm just too hung up on Firefox still. :P
- Korey
Timely thread. I literally installed Google Chrome on my home computer within the last half hour (hey, I'm slow at these things - I'm not trendy). Just poking around a bit now, liking the speed. StumbleUpon support is an issue, but I'm reading up on it and other stuff. Just read Sarah Perez's post on privacy.
- Ontario Emperor
I h ave never been a fan of ActiveX. The fact that several websites still rely on it versus better technologies irks me and I refuse to use them.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
hope they add the tabs preview to Windows 7 when you hover over the taskbar chrome icon
- Vaibhav
Paul: Google Chrome gets along fine with Flash here. What are you experiencing?
- Robert Scoble
Yeah, I have to admit, IE8 is a pretty good browser, relatively speaking (relative to IE7 and IE6.) Renders my pages a ton better than previous versions.
- Mark Bao
Flash slows down Chrome for me pretty significantly, sometimes to where it's not even usable. Maybe it's just my computer.
- Dennis Jackson
How is IE6 a basis for comparison to anything anymore? Totally agree about Chrome.
- Bob Starr
loved chrome until I found out it wasn't compatible with my Roboform. I'm lazy and not too security conscious.
- BEX
IE 8 was supposed to be more compliant with standards, but it breaks a lot of websites which work in IE7, FF, Chrome. (Scratching my head)
- Vaibhav
Amen on the 'IE mixing other junk in' thought. I hate typing a hostname into it & it tries to hit a UNC or whatever the heck it's doing...
- Steven Byrnes
Chrome has a whole list of niggling problems and has had since day one -- they just never seem to get fixed. I like the speed and simplicity but Chrome will become the next IE unless Google starts paying attention to detail.
- Brian Sullivan
Chrome lets you create 'desktop applications' that don't get lost in all of those tabs and don't waste space with the address bar!
- Jon Issler
I use Chrome from time to time, but it just feels wrong when I do, I think I'll be sticking with Firefox.
- Randy
I am with Vaibhav on "webkit is the future as well"
- Peter Finn
Val: Privacy is dead. I really don't care.
- Robert Scoble
Chrome's biggest shortcomings right now are password security and the lack of plugins/extensions... Have to give Firefox a nod for having those two nailed!
- Jon Issler
Google Chrome is like FireFox back when it was Phoenix: Sleek, sexy and satisfying. Beta 2 adds autocomplete, profiles and a Greasemonkey style scripting.
- John Rubier
Chrome has built in Task Manager.... anyone? ..... alright, never mind.
- Vaibhav
@Dennis check your fans. If your on a laptop the fans and/or exhaust may be blocked with dust. that happened to me on my laptop, any flash video slowed my laptop down. realized one day (after reinstalling windows and still having the problem) that my fans had a lot of dust. used compressed air to clean them out, problem solved. happy laptop!
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
I love firefox and plug-ins, but does Chrome need plug-ins? I thought their deal was to run current and next-gen online applications better, which will likely preclude the need for the plug-ins we firefox users can't live without now.
- Bill Garrett
Robert, I really like Chrome too. The universal address/search/history bar is the future of browsing. There are only a small % of sites that do not work with Chrome... usually old school corporations, such as ones that I have to pay bills online at. Grr. Works 99.8% of the time for me otherwise.
- Brian
I just installed the Windows 7 beta. I fired up IE 8 and it didn't correctly render a nonprofit's Web site I administer as a volunteer (www.spauldingcenter.org). IE 8 didn't correctly render some of the CSS. I installed Chrome and Chrome got it right. IE 8 is obviously not yet ready for release.
- Rod Bauer
from twhirl
I love Chrome and it is my default browser now. In fact all my flash problems in Firefox and IE went away in Chrome (video paused many times during playback, audio kept going). They are both memory hoars. Maybe a problem with too much Flash on websites? The lack of plugin support is very troubling.
- Chris Mayer
I'm keen for getting mac version of chrome too, though its going to be interesting to see how they're gonna handle interface
- Mike Scott
from IM
Re: 6. The search bar autofill? Err FF has that too for recently visited sites. If you get an Add-On it'll do the potential sites too.
- Adam
Google Chrome may be nice, but there was an "Epic Fail" on my system when Chrome decided that it was the default browser (out of four browsers) and would not directly allow me to un-check the Default-Browser checkbox. It was quickly removed.
- Robert Miller
I don't care about Internet Explorer any more. I switched to Firefox + Foxmarks, and solved a nagging problem - synchronization of bookmarks across multiple Windows *and* OS X machines - that the 'softies *still* haven't managed to solve, despite wasting a few developer-centuries on Live Mesh.
- Pat Rice
Love Chrome. Use it whenever I can. It does have problems with some sites, and I'm always having problems with flash crashing in it.
- cjmart
Kind of ironic that Chrome and Firefox and both performing much better for me under Windows 7. The beta Chrome release is really sweet.
- Charlie Anzman
@Pat: I use live mesh to sync my bookmarks between machines all the time. Add your favorites folder to mesh and you are good to go. Mesh for mac is available too.
- Chris Johnson
Google Chrome doesn't know what's RSS!!! FAIL
- carrotmadman6
I feel like people are debating the relative merits of tn3270 emulators...
- Brian Roy
I like the speed/lightness of Chrome, however i dont think it will be big anytime soon with anyone other than techies. Doesnt run many addins/plugins etc... Unlikely any enterprise will adopt it either. Its a great reference app.
- Chris Johnson
Chrome certainly is clean and renders fast, but until the experience can be customized via extensions like Firefox, there is no one way I can make it my primary. I just loaded Win. 7 on my laptop and the only thing I ported over from any of my other machines was my FEBE.
- George Rogers
Important point for me is that Chrome opens more of the monitor for the content on the page, not for toolbars that i do not need while browsing a page. no loss of functionality without the toolbar.
- Jeff DiStanlo
I wonder how many people even know what tn3270 is used for :) I know I do all too well.
- Patrick Allmond
+++ on this. FoxMarks is awesome. Just wish FoxMarks had an iPhone browser sync also :(
- Patrick Allmond
Any Flock 2.0 users here? If Chrome comes out for the Mac, I may take a look as well - but Firefox/Flock has been great for me for now.
- Erich Miller
@Robert: Maybe simplicity wasn't the right word..."ease of use" might be a better term. I think that FF's layout is not as radically different from the browsers I grew up with (IE & Netscape), as Chrome seems to be...maybe that's why I find it simpler to use. Having said that, Chrome is by no means complex, just not as intuitive as FF. As you mentioned, the plug-ins add to the ease of use. It seems you can get a FireFox plug-in for anything.
- Charlie Flowers
BTW, have you tried FF's AutoPager plug-in. That thing is amazing! It "automatically loads the next page of a site inline when you reach the end of the current page for infinite scrolling of content"...it's perfect for things like Twitter, Google, and yes it works for FriendFeed too. :D
- Charlie Flowers
I'm using Flock 2.0 on both Mac and Windows. I've uninstalled Chrome -- didn't care for it much since Flock does everything I need it to.
- Victor Solanoy
:hits the Googles to figure out what the Flock you guys are talking about:
- teleken
IE8 (and Firefox) offer a lot of tools to supplement your browsing experience. Chrome just gets out of the way. I'm not sure one or the other is a fundamentally superior approach.
- Toph Tucker
Installed Flock for all of 5 minutes. Sticking with Chrome, thanks.
- teleken
ctrl+t takes forever on IE8, and for what? A blank tab. I like Chrome's approach
- Andrew Smith
Firefox's is simple and extendable. Firefox' strength comes from its pluggability and ease of developing new plugins. Chrome needs to beat that.
- Angsuman Chakraborty
Chrome needs to support Linux before it can even think of replacing Firefox. Chromium port of Chrome on Linux isn't very stable.
- Angsuman Chakraborty
firefox plugins are the new activeX. there's too much functionality i use for me to shift *now*. i *do* like chrome, though.
- moogs
I like moving tabs into new windows, but does crashes alot w/ Flash
- Da
7. If one tab crashes, all the other tabs are unaffected. Let's see ANY other browser do that.
- Nathan Chase
i think i'll stick with firefox. so much more you can do with it..
- Terry O'Fee
Chrome is fast (unlike IE), has a very minimal UI (also unlike IE), and you can move tabs to other windows. I have never been able to get Firefox to open new tabs next to the tab they're opened from, instead of at the far right, plus I don't really care about extensions. Plus, I've never had any issues with Flash. The only problem is that my school email won't work in Chrome (but that's minor). Chrome wins for me.
- imperator3733
from twhirl
Robert - how is the performance of IE8 compared to Chrome and Firefox? Personally, I'd be using Chrome if I had my add-ons and greasemonkey scripts. I love Chrome's mult-tasking / memory management - very nice
- Susan Beebe
@Imperator, Firefox's UI can be slimmed down, and you can fix the tab issue with Tab Mix Plus. Also, Firefox 3.1 is faster than Chrome.
- Tanath
how bout: Chrome is CSS compliant? IE8 isn't, I know this by experience
- Duncan Riley
@Nathan -- as far as I know, IE8 separated tabs into different processes first....
- Toph Tucker
I think FriendFeed should put a comment button at the bottom of the comments... that said, Opera is the fastest, but it has a few shortcomings. I use FireFox or Chrome depending on what PC I'm at. Some sites only work in IE.
- Gus
Google Chrome uses your screen real estate more efficiently
- Aad 't Hart
Chrome focuses on the web and not on the browser and that's what a browser's supposed to do.
- Rohit
May be when there are basic extensions available for Chrome then it will be fair to compare with Firefox. For now, I don't see Chrome that useful, even though it's clean, a bit faster and provides more screen space. After a couple of days of using Chrome, I switched to Firefox as I felt less productive without the powerful extensions in Firefox.
- Amar Shah
When Chrome has an extension like Better GReader, TabMixPlus, and NoScript, then I'll switch, but FF has everything I need with the extensions. NoScript is about the ONLY addon I absolutely need to use for security of my computer.
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
You can install extensions on the Chromium Builds! Go for it!
- Will Higgins™
love chrome as much as the next guy, but it does crash sometimes over simplest things, like downloading sth from gmail or greader. & it's not just one tab that goes - it all goes & only one comes back, either gmail or greader...
- siggimus
Chrome also crashes when importing Firefox Bookmarks, which makes it awkward to switch. But yeah, I would still use Firefox over IE 8.
- Todd Brunner
from twhirl
my mother understands the search-thingy-box in chrome.
- Svensonsan
@scobleizer I think this would have made a good blog post. Would have been easier to read you view points. The discussion could then have happened on friendfeed. Too many comments to read properly
- Sidharth Dassani
Chrome and WebKit are the future - just hope there's still room for Firefox. Remember how Firefox became Firefox?
- Mona Nomura
from fftogo
I agree. Chrome focuses on opening fast, which is critical for impatient people like me. Firefox and IE are way too slow.
- Richard Crocker
WebKit can do CSS3 gradients, and I have only seen it in WordPress for creating actual images with gradients. Chrome is the future indeed! Extensions? heh, I use javascript bookmarklets to do my bidding! Chromes bookmark manager is more powerful than I expected. Passwords can be imported from FF but there is no backup option yet.
- Web20Critic
Chrome is really promising, but still incomplete imo. Being a web developer, I have deep connections with firefox plug-ins like FireBug (with Yslow), dev. toolbar and a couple more. But looking at the future, I think the final round of the browser wars will be between Safari and Chrome (ofc IE will still have at least 50% market) because Firefox gets slower and more agonizing with every new release, and lacks the support Apple and Google offers for Safari/Chrome
- Onur Cengiz
If chrome crashes, report it! Make a note of what you were doing and blog it, microshare it, post it on the chromium blog etc. This way all of us can help make it work for us! Nice thread for tech support, Mr Scoble!
- Web20Critic
7. Because Chrome has a new and improved version every week/month/quarter (depending upon the distribution channel) whereas IE version comes once in 3 years.
- Varun Mahajan
Robert: How did you get IE8 on Windows 7??? The installer refused to run when i tried.
- Roberto Bonini
Roberto: it came with Windows 7. Or so I thought. I already had it loaded on this machine before I upgraded.
- Robert Scoble
2. RT smart people's stuff but add onto it with a good comment.
- Robert Scoble
3. If you have something smart to say, say it to someone directly like "Hey @techcrunch you should check out the new Palm Pre."
- Robert Scoble
I now await the inevitable flood of "RTs" of this message ;-)
- Warren
4. Send wine or other bribes to people who make lots of noise.
- Robert Scoble
Sounds like someone's running low on wine :)
- Eric Florenzano
5. If you are friends with a real celebrity bring them around at blogger/twitter parties. Make sure you get them to follow you and remember your name. All good twitterers have iPhones or other phones that they can tweet from.
- Robert Scoble
6. Put your twitter and friendfeed addresses on your business cards.
- Robert Scoble
7. Talk shit about Eric Florenzano. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Ok, well that's *someone's* blog done for tomorrow, then! :)
- WorldofHiglet
8. Follow people back if they add value. 1938media has added 1,000 new followers since he started following everyone back.
- Robert Scoble
What kind of wine goes with bribe? Did you ask GaryVee while in Vegas?
- Dave Cadoff
9. Talk shit about that Scoble dude. Yeah, me. Sometimes it gets a link and a follow. Especially if you teach me something while you are calling me an idiot.
- Robert Scoble
LOL *hands Robert a bottle of wine* Please add the "don't pout or make a twitter fuss when you notice someone drops you. Insecurity isn't a attraction"
- Sprite
10. Be interesting. Craig Newmark got hundreds of follows in first evening (I was the first to follow him) after I tweeted about him. Why? Because he was interesting already.
- Robert Scoble
Remember it's not about the followers - it's about the relationships. Your purpose of having many followers should be so you can build relationships with as many of them as possible.
- Jesse Stay
11. Do something sensational like tatoo your twitter address onto your face.
- Robert Scoble
BTW, (real-life) relationships then bring more followers
- Jesse Stay
Wine? Bribe? Anything will get noticed. Better yet, put a custom label on it and include your Twitter address on it.
- Robert Scoble
Liked for the 'talk shit about Scoble'. Also, Scoble, do you accept Mead?
- Will Higgins™
12. Hang out with Jesse Stay. Better yet, bring him to Twitter's headquarters for an interview (that's what I did and it worked).
- Robert Scoble
I've tried to do everything on this list, but the tattoo isn't going to work. I've already branded my twitter address onto several steers.
- Mike Nayyar
13. Stalk Guy Kawasaki until he calls the cops on you or follows you.
- Robert Scoble
14. Get naked. Take pictures. Include your Twitter address.
- Robert Scoble
er - we've seen most of your body, Robert, so where's *your* tatoo?
- WorldofHiglet
Jesse: that's what you think. Ask your real friends and they will probably tell you otherwise. :-)
- Robert Scoble
22. get on Leo Laporte's show and have him order his listeners to follow you. He did this last Sunday to my son and you should have seen the followers roll in. That dude has POWER!!!
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I asked them and they said you're the man
- Jesse Stay
23. Get @garyvee to take you wine tasting. Tweet it.
- Robert Scoble
naked pictures drunk sex and dying. got it. Oh, also, be Barack Obama. ANything else?
- Erin @queenofspain
25. Get Chris Brogan to say you are smart.
- Robert Scoble
Be hot and make sure your avatar shows it
- Chris Saad
WTF how pathetic do u have to be tohave this desire to be followed.Ppl follow u cuz they find u interesting & if not they will dump u period.Being a Personal Ball washer is just lame to get to have followers.be sure to hold ur ground.
- Baba
26. Get into an argument with @techcrunch.
- Robert Scoble
I've mentioned my Twitter account on The Tech Guy but I think my last name throws people. :D
- MarkCarras
29. Claim you are above this stupid game.
- Robert Scoble
Quit Twitter, come back after 2 months
- Jesse Stay
All bloggers are wrong at least every few posts. Especially me! :D
- MarkCarras
30. Follow more interesting people. That's why I've said for a year now it's most important who you follow, not who is following you. What I really was trying to say there is if you want better followers you've got to follow better people.
- Robert Scoble
lol Jesse. Twitter? What's that? I thought I was learning how to sell a shamwow
- Erin @queenofspain
What kind of wine are we talking here?
- Chris Poirier
Mark, you bet, but we are all type-A personalities. We hate to be told we're wrong and will defend it to our dying day. :)
- Jesse Stay
31: Give away something. Hold a contest.
- Robert Scoble
Launch a great Twitter service and stick your twitter name in the footer
- Chris Saad
32. Invite Louis Gray over for dinner. Make sure he brings his twins. Take pictures. 1000 extra points if you bring shirts for the twins with your Twitter address on them.
- Robert Scoble
34. Chris Saad is right. Speaking of Chris, if you party with him in Amsterdam you'll get more followers. Oh, and if you are the guy who wrote http://www.twittervision.com you'll get more followers.
- Robert Scoble
Take a pic down a girls shirt and post it on FF.
- David
Not 'Chris Saad' robert - @ChrisSaad :D
- Chris Saad
Get in with the Mommy Bloggers and #GNO Tweeps
- Jesse Stay
Good call Jesse, I was going to say piss off the mommybloggers , but getting in with them works too...lol
- Erin @queenofspain
I've had 2 new FriendFeed followers just from this thread.
- Jesse Stay
Follow Garry Vee (don't ask me to spell his full name out at this time of night, please?) what kind of wine goes with Twittering. *lol* Well, Gary Vee is THE wine expert on Twitter. :P
- Molly, Time Traveller
Erin, it is my goal to be King of the Mommy bloggers
- Jesse Stay
Follow just 1 online multi-level marketer and you'll has a ton start following you
- Paul Povolni
I buy dinner for anyone who comes to my area and contacts me through Twitter...and is following me. :D
- MarkCarras
I find that not following people back increases the rate at which I gain followers
- Simon T Small
Simon: being Robert Scoble is pretty hard. You've gotta keep coming up with new ways to find followers. It's easier to call him an asshole on twitter. Even better, call him, TechCrunch, 1938media, JasonCalacanis, Guy Kawasaki, and a few other people assholes.
- Robert Scoble
37. Jeremiah Owyang found this one: stop Twittering.
- Robert Scoble
I'm amazed I don't get called an asshole more often. I think this should be my New Years Resolution. :D
- MarkCarras
38. Follow someone, then when they don't follow you back, call them out on it and say they are lame.
- Robert Scoble
39. Come up with a new Twitter game. Get it retweeted by Chris Brogan.
- Robert Scoble
Make a real funny stream on Friendfeed, but better yet put it on your blog so SEO really gathers people to it and put your Friendfeed/Twitter handles right in the post
- Ian D. Nock
40. Pay Magpie to spam everyone with your Twitter address.
- Robert Scoble
Oh don't tell people to talk shit about you. It's kinda sad to see people talking crap about you, then when you're some place they are, they turn all fanboy.
- Admiral Anika
Robert: wait, not change in plans, I don't hate those people, damn it!
- Simon T Small
No one gets to be King of the mommybloggers until I deem it so dammit
- Erin @queenofspain
42. Hang out with @newmediajim at the Inauguration.
- Robert Scoble
43. Hang out with Hillary Clinton in Davos (my dream).
- Robert Scoble
Erin, but I thought you were the Queen of Spain
- Jesse Stay
44. Come up with a new set of rules for Twitter behavior.
- Robert Scoble
Oh boy, Mr. Scoble. I hope you are not Tweeting while getting drunk and having sex... Poor Mommy and son... Some things need to stay sacred. Do you really want the world at large to know what you are doing at all times? Quit goofing and send us more tech info we enjoy. Great videos from CES by the way. I even got my partner to come and watch some of them. Thanks for the good stuff!
- Colleen
45. Get more followers on Facebook then get them all to join you on Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
46. Be @god. Even better. Be @god and hand out beta invites to something cool coming soon.
- Robert Scoble
Colleen: I didn't say I use all these ideas. But I've seen them work on other people. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Give a talk at a geek event and make sure you give out your Twitter name for feedback
- Chris Saad
47. Twitter the birth of your new baby (high risk, if you aren't there mentally during contractions you might see your iPhone thrown across the room).
- Robert Scoble
Pay @MrTweet to recommend you to everyone
- Chris Saad
48. Tweet exclusive Apple news before anyone else does.
- Robert Scoble
49. Be the first to retweet a big earthquake tweet.
- Robert Scoble
51. Follow everyone then unfollow as soon as you get a follow - follow that?
- Mona Nomura
Chris: Influence is gold, like it, am tuned
- Simon T Small
This post alone lets me see the value of FriendFeed over Twitter for conversations. Glad the list above isn't documentation of your personal twitter conquest, but a record of some of the looneyness of Twitter follower greediness
- Paul Povolni
52. Move to SF and go to every. single. Tweet-up! YAY HOW FUN!
- Mona Nomura
Scott: I don't know that this list helped me that much. But, how about a list of things that will get rid of followers? I bet that one would work better.
- Robert Scoble
53. Set text alerts for Brightkite and follow all the huge Tweeter's comings and goings - show up and SUBTLY introduce yourself so you'll be name dropped. Keyword = SUBTLY
- Mona Nomura
54. Go to every single conference and shamelessly pass out your Twitter in lieu of email!
- Mona Nomura
Streak at the Supebowl with your twitter name on your front and back(side)
- Simon T Small
Jesse: that only used to work. There are no defaults on friendfeed anymore. In fact, if you don't have any friends it won't recommend anyone to you.
- Robert Scoble
Name drop as much as you can and do whatever it takes to get written up on ValleyWag (wow, I've learned a lot in six months!)
- Mona Nomura
Get Robert Scoble to tweet that he can't believe what's going on at your birthday party even though it was a tame house party with friends
- Chris Saad
Tell people to NOT follow you. I mean it. Don't.
- Andrew Smith
Post a bajillion pictures of your kids, pets, and more kids.
- Mona Nomura
Make sure you participate in every. single. Robert post and name drop him as much as possible. ;)
- Mona Nomura
Mona, great one - Kids, Dogs, and Kittenz - Bacon, too
- Jesse Stay
@Dieter if a post was sponsored by anyone scoble would let u know - trust me
- Chris Saad
Go to every. single. event and take + post as many. pictures. as you can w/ the "famous" people and PING.FM THOSE PICTURES!
- Mona Nomura
Here's a novel idea - Have something interesting to say and focus on producing value instead of your follower count :)
- Chris Saad
Mona, Facebook and Flickr tag them as well
- Jesse Stay
Always respond to people with an "@" ie: @scobelizer WOW this thread RULES - since you never know what Google's indexing!
- Mona Nomura
Dieter: Huh? If anything this post would be sponsored by Seagate. You can follow them at http://friendfeed.com/seagate (Seagate sponsors my video show, not my friendfeed account).
- Robert Scoble
Mona: 'post famous pictures' Love it. Works a charm on facebook.
- Simon T Small
i have a new one: use Browser bugs to greet your blogvisitors with their twittername http://is.gd/eMdF @andreasklinger
- Andreas Klinger
Chris: having something interesting to say? No, that couldn't work, could it? I'd rather talk about my followers. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Retweet this thread (no, that's not a request, it's an idea)
- Jesse Stay
Chris Saad: yer talkin crazy with that last one. Focus on content? Insanity.
- Scott Kingery
55: Dieter reminded me of one more: talk about products that already have Twitter accounts. When I talked about HR Block they followed me. So did Ford. So did Zappos.
- Robert Scoble
56. Don't auto-DM followers just follow them back or RT their next tweet
- Damian Holmes
Find a unique thing that you can help another Twitter user on - the bigger the user, the better. Fix their problem.
- Jesse Stay
So did @HeavyAsHell Oh wait, that's my site. :D
- MarkCarras
57. post a comment to a robert scoble FF feed
- Damian Holmes
Luke: T-shirts are so common. How about shoes? Jeans? Underwear? Don Box used to have his company logo on underwear. Called them "Boxer shorts." I still remember those, even though I've forgotten all the lame Tshirts I've ever gotten.
- Robert Scoble
Only a slut is going to be able to advertise well with branded underwear
- MiniMage - HLtW
Compete for the most followers on Twitter - didn't Leo and Calacanis do that at one time? (or am I getting the contenders wrong?)
- Jesse Stay
58. write your twitter name on your eyelids then go to a tweetup or large tech conference
- Damian Holmes
MiniMage: not true. Don Box is no slut. He now runs a team at Microsoft.
- Robert Scoble
I think a good way to make more friends is to live an interesting life. Life is a journey. You meet people just around every corner. Twitter happens to be one of them.
- Helge V. Keitel
Build up and help out a non-A list, but up-and-coming A or B list Twitter user or blogger. They will be more appreciative (it's those people that like the shirts and swag).
- Jesse Stay
Tweet something like this: "I'm looking for funny people to follow, do you know any?"
- Robert Scoble
Get @gapingvoid to use your twitter address in one of his cartoons (he designed my business cards and you would be amazed how well that works).
- Robert Scoble
@Mona use a hot suggestive silhouette as your avatar - that alwasy helps too
- Chris Saad
Take Louis Gray to a Vodka bar. You might not get any followers, but you will have a good time and he doesn't drink so you'll have a safe drive home, too!
- Robert Scoble
follow A, B, C, D, E, F, X and Z listers
- Damian Holmes
Create a custom T-shirt with "I Love Your Stream" (mine) on front(or your own words) and your Twitter name on back. I did it with @crypticfragment at zazzle.com. Still waiting for it. I didn't put twitter name on back though, should have, but not trying to gain HUGE followers, just the ones that would like to hear about furniture,interior design and eco home stuff! I put: twitter:FTW, on the back.
- Leslie Carothers
Robert, not to mention get on the front of Valleywag
- Jesse Stay
I keep hiding this but it doesn't stay hidden. :(
- Mona Nomura
Follow the Top 500 in your City then Top 500 in your Country that's at least 500 follow backs
- Damian Holmes
Jesse: I find that I get a lot of followers by keeping the A list on the A list. Who wants to deal with those assholes if they fall onto the B list?
- Robert Scoble
I'm with @garyvee & how he encourages us to *execute the best YOU* - don't try to be anyone else but the *best* you... your passionate self. Peeps who resonate with you will follow. And for sure add value, retweet good resources, build peeps up, thank those who comment on your blog & RT you.
- Mari Smith
58. Post to a list to get people to follow you. such as the one explaining how to get people to follow you...
- Sheraz Mahmood
Name drop Hollywood celebrities even if you don't know them.
- Mona Nomura
By the way, I'm following everyone who has participated on this so far. Why? Because only geeks would be online on a Saturday night and I want to follow all the geeks. So, everyone here has at least one follower on friendfeed.
- Robert Scoble
write a dramatic post about a family from Romania with a child with down syndrome and ask people to donate money.
- Simon T Small
Robert: You'll need to unfollow me, its 6pm Sunday here in Aussieland, so I'm not a commited geek sorry
- Simon T Small
Robert: Gotta do something while Windows 7 downloads :)
- Scott Kingery
Haha!! So busted - very good point re your last comment, Robert. Thank goodness for fab understanding spouses is all I say. hehe
- Mari Smith
60. Get on FriendFeed and Twitter super early and become de facto popular. And yes, #32 is a must.
- Louis Gray
Robert: were not all in Silicon Valley - its 16:30 in China - (awaiting the flames or unfollows - which is worst?)
- Damian Holmes
... and always listen to Scoble! Ha-ha. Robert, we admire you!
- Alan Kodzasov
Another tip: Don't live in Australia nearly NOBODY here is on Twitter
- Simon T Small
Compliment the crap out of "A-listers" and always laugh at all of their jokes. Make sure to add at least seven exclamation points. ie:"LOL!!!!!!!!!!" to stand out from the crowd.
- Mona Nomura
Note: above only works if you participate in every. single. one of their posts on both Twitter and FriendFeed!
- Mona Nomura
Robert: 5:30 pm in Tokyo. I'm pretty much just getting going for the day. :-)
- Ken Brady
Say something that makes a 200 + comment thread ;)
- videopixil
When you send bribes, make sure to research. ie: LG doesn't drink but Robert likes wine. Subtly ask for preferences so they'll get something they actually _like_ <--KEY.
- Mona Nomura
Use Tweetdeck and apply filters to see subjects you are expert in. You'll notice lots of people look for advice in certain fields so you can reply and show your expertise. I notice those people you help are happy and more likely to follow you even if you don't follow them.
- Luca Filigheddu
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@videopixil Of course, that applies to most things Scoble says.
- Ken Brady
@tkpleslie says," Ask people like @scobleizer sincere question about whether Nokia's new phone works for people, like me, that wear hearing aids when's he's in Japan in middle of your night at the actual Nokia conference where phone is being intro'd for first time. He did respond,nicely,but did not follow so I guess it doesn't work too well.
- Leslie Carothers
Send Mona lego art wrapped in bacon. Oh wait, that'll get you friendfeed follows.
- Yuvi
This was before I really understood as @marismith says, that true value in twitter for me is having followers and following those people with intersecting paths because, like in real life, that's how interesting real conversations have a chance to develop into fuller, deeper, more lasting relationships.
- Leslie Carothers
Robert, It's Sunday Morning in Loviisa, Finland ;)
- Helge V. Keitel
Leslie: I did follow you here on friendfeed. I still haven't been able to find out if it works well for hearing impaired. I'm sure it does, though. The speaker phone on that device is pretty darn good.
- Robert Scoble
Speak in SAT verbiage at all times to make yourselves sound smarter.
- Mona Nomura
Never admit: ay kin knot reed end rite... :(
- Mona Nomura
This is a great list Robert, I love making new friends. All those awful things people are saying about you must be wrong - aren't they? -]
- Chris Loft
Post YouTube clips of classical music to make yourself seem more cultured.
- Mona Nomura
Share everythign popular on digg because if it's on digg, it MUST be cool.
- Mona Nomura
stop following people who post about following and follow people who don't try...
- Ryan
mention yourself on Scobles friendfeed (@mattrendo)
- Matt Rendo
Keep up with memes since everyone wants to hear what's been repeated on the web a trillion times without contributing a new opinion. ie: CES looks cool.
- Mona Nomura
All great points. I've always hated requests for follows. I'm only attempting something like it for charity. In that instance, those who do the same should be very clear about WHY they want followers in the first place. Otherwise it looks like you're just in it for yourself.
- Brandon Mendelson
Chris Loft: everything said about me is absolutely true! :-)
- Robert Scoble
So it's true that you have huge... giant... socks?
- Chris Saad
Thanks for the follow here on FriendFeed, Robert. I know this is where you interact. But,because home base for me is Twitter, I never saw your follow here until I went to comment on this thread! It's too much for me to constantly go back and forth and also keep up with work, life,friends and family.How do you guys do it? Thanks, tho, Robert,for letting me know. I learn from you ALL the time.
- Leslie Carothers
I really am not obsessed with more followers. Sure I appreciated them as much as the next person. It is not a popularity contest for my use case. Hence, I will never be a "Top 100" person on Twitter. ;)
- Rodney Rumford
If it's on the Internet, it is ALWAYS true, Robert. ;)
- Mona Nomura
Try to explain yourself out of being a geek when you really are
- Jesse Stay
I am indeed a failure, all the more reason to follow me... and that BACON Mona N. mentioned
- Matt Rendo
Get Robert Scoble to Foreward/Afterword your book for you
- Jesse Stay
@Jesse I'm incapable of explaining myself out of being a geek. Better to embrace it.
- Ken Brady
61: Add on to a Robert Scoble numbered list with an incrementally interesting item.
- Steve Garfield
back up your success with nothing more than 140 characters
- Sheraz Mahmood
I've noticed that people who start a controversy, especially with a high profile person, get an immediate boost in followers. You'd think it would backfire but it seems to have the opposite effect. Maybe it's the trainwreck factor? People curious what on earth will be said next?
- Liz
Apparently posting on Scoble's Friendfeed works... 6 followers in the last few minutes.
- Matt Rendo
Woah. 278+ comments. Impressive! This is definitely one that will stick on FFholic for a while.
- Phil G
Wondering is anybody will read all these comments. I do believe if twitter doesn't get it together, that a large group will flock out to another destination. ala: Poof!
- Dave
Hey @scobleizer, your post would have been more appropriate on a blog.
- Klaus Alexander Seistrup
Post photos of cute puppies on FriendFeed.
- Amit Morson
To get followers, jump into a Tweetchat "room", get into the convo, follow folks then tell them in the chat room that you are following. For the "Happy09" chat, there were tons of people in there. Better yet, start your own chat/chat meme!
- Jesse P. Luna
@ reply like crazy to let the person know you followed them ie: @Scobleizer HI I FOLLOWED YOU FOLLOW ME BACK repeat until FailWhale/FailRobot shows up.
- Mona Nomura
Well, that's starting to work . . . anyone else getting lots of new friends? . . . and I didn't have to insult anybody. I think I might have to post one of my classical video clips for Mona http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Chris Loft
Leslie, the N series work v well with the hearing impaired, but the iPhone works even better from my experience FTW!
- Sally Church
One thing that annoys me: people who discuss their follower numbers on twitter. Its just not interesting! I just subscribed to someone and unsubscribed the next day as 4 tweets were about passing 10000 - I'm very glad for you but it is just noise in my feed. Now I understand the feeling - I was amazed the day 100 people followed me (it is all relative :) ) - but it is not necessary to tweet about it.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I was going to send you some Swiss wine Robert, but I was told it doesn't travel well, so drank it myself. Just so you know, it was good :-)
- Paul Shadwell
I'm paling up with several here, in spite of what Mr. Scoble says about Saturday night geeks. -Mr. Geek ;-P
- Eddie Soto
Participate in a Robert Scoble's friendfeed conversation on Saturday night, have him follow you, post the screenshot of him following you
- Bertrand Doux
On the subject of more followers, arrrrrgh! *runs screaming from room.... *
- Sally Church
Tweet about Windows 7(or something equally as interesting), which I'll be doing a lot of in the coming days, It's installing as I type this!
- Kevin Lloyd
Tweet, but don't tweet too much because people apparently don't want to hear from you (or is it just me! ;)) THAT much! :)
- Christopher Kusek
Paul, what's that about swiss wine not travelling so well? It travels beautifully (but you need to get the good ones). It is so hard to find outside Switzerland because the swiss tend to drink all of it.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Liz, I thought that was really funny cos it's Sunday evening here. I'm not some z-list geek sitting here wasting my time on a Saturday night. -[
- Chris Loft
point 4 above is shameless self-plug :) but entertaining :)))
- A.T.
64. Comment on a Robert Scoble list at 2:21 AM in bed becausse you could not sleep
- Tyler (Chacha)
65. Plan to write a blog post on thisentry in the morning
- Tyler (Chacha)
66. Fail at placing a space between in this and entry on a scoble list ( iPod recognizes Scoble as a word and auto completed it)
- Tyler (Chacha)
get stuck on a bus in death valley in the middle of the night with robert scoble.
- Christine Lu
Follow an obscure norwegian and get incoherent conversations about whales, blåbærsyltetøy, and the semantic web;) (which may make people curious.. or unfollow you actually..)
- Thomas Bøhm
Get up at 6 am on Sundays if living in Europe because otherwise you miss Robert Scoble's craziest moments and most interesting threads = people *damn* I should have never slept in!
- Gaby K. Slezák
A real one: Upload a sexy picture on your profile or your twitter bg !!
- İbrahim Uzun [ j ]
Claim that Scoble and Techcrunch are simply manufactured entities by a mysterious corporate power using Coke vs. Pepsi tactics to polarize the masses in an effort to conquer the world.
- Bob Starr
RT @scobleizer Robert this is good advice, except I don't see any reference to bodacious tat-tas. ;)
- John Craft
RT @scobleizer Robert wow, your post generated so many comments, is this the most number of comments from a single tweet in Twitter history? Can anyone confirm?
- Alvin
Sorry not Twitter, this is from FriendFeed :)
- Alvin
67. write about stuff you are enthusiastic about and that's only covered by a handful of people yet (like virtual worlds, metaverse) and shamelessly reveal that you are enthusiastic about that in one of the most commented on @scobleizer threads ;-)
- Gaby K. Slezák
stop reading half way but say it was awesome anyway
- Stephen Breen
You forgot about having a whole lot of time on your hands!
- John D Reasor
I knew I should have tweeted from the back of that police van on the stroke of new year's eve, watching the fireworks. And walking away. Walking. With a big grin on my face. We'z not dus photoz. Doh.
- Chris Loft
Write an "unofficial biography of Robert Scoble" and have it published? ;)
- Tyson Key
“Scoble's law of unfollows: for everyone who you get on Twitter that says they will unfollow you will get 87 new followers.” http://tinyurl.com/9oahwc
- Tapio Kulmala
Talk about the versatility of bacon - BACON - crisp, tasty BACON
- BEX
Just noticed this is a very dude-heavy thread (not all but mainly) and that I mainly subscribe to guys on FriendFeed. But on Twitter I have about 60/40 men/women Following mix, I think. It was the comments about ta-tas and sexy profile photos that made me realize the difference.
- Liz
Lock Robert Scoble, Mona N, Jesse Stay, Louis Gray, Jason Calacanis and Techcrunch in a room. Only release them when they've retweeted every single of your tweets and told all their followers to follow you!
- Nicholas James
nope its nun of the above; .they are just hacking into your FF account;If you really want more followers on Twitter and friendfeed this is what you do, its...aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.they got me.
- tomartomartini
Yep .. I think this has reached the most active discussion .. ever (It past Dave Winer's post which is most discussed in past 30 days)
- Tyler (Chacha)
Come on people! We need to reach 500 comments!
- Tyler (Chacha)
Tweet unto you as you would like to be tweeted.
- iamkhayyam
Create a Robert Scoble fan blog and title it Mr. Awesome. :)
- Bill Romanos
69. start a list and slowly move out of it as other members of the community move in to pick it up (there is no 68) - you are now running things without even being there.
- Valeria Maltoni
Be a more interesting what Robert? :p oh and maybe follow the fastest top ten commenters here.
- mrsha
I am reading this in friendfeed on my iPhone and immediately regretting my decision to tap "read more..." I made it through the first 12 then began skimming and my thumb began sobbing...
- John Reynolds
I don't remember any friendfeed item getting more than 300 comments. I think this is now the new high water mark. Wow!
- Robert Scoble
Or: Post a “If you want more followers on Twitter and friendfeed here's what to do:” tweet :-)
- Marco Massarotto
Not being in this comment stream is so embarrassing. Wait, so is BEING in this comment stream!
- Tom Guarriello
i wonder if you did it all wrong, would you really get no followers...
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Joelle: if you did it all wrong you would still get followers but they just would be all spammers.
- Robert Scoble
Robert - define spam... Is this post spam?
- Brian Roy
Comment on the longest thread in Friendfeed history.
- Mike Lewis
it seems pretty simple: post interesting things, interact thoughtfully, and be patient
- Kelly W.
70. When all else fails, make interesting crap up about Robert, Gary, Brogan, etc..
- Todd Jordan
It isn't how many follow you... it is the quality of those you follow. But... that makes it hard to keep score and determine who is "winning".
- Brian Roy
patient? I want 1000 followers and I want them now! ;) (actually, I am with Kelly on this one)
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
You know... Chris Brogan liked a post of mine and retweeted it letting everyone know... it ended up bringing me about 800 new visitors in the span of 2 hours. There's definitely something to be said about being seen with the right people. :)
- Steven Sanders
Hey Robert, say something positive about each of us today? Really be a boost.
- Todd Jordan
AVG works just fine for me under Windows 7!
- Dave Oliver
Todd: you all are beautiful. And smart. That's why I am following everyone on this thread.
- Robert Scoble
It's simple, but just do two things (in order): 1. Create good content. 2. Market that content in an intelligent, non-spammy way.
- Daniel Miessler
Daniel: marketing part is what we're really talking about here. How to/who to/when to/where to/what to market.
- Todd Jordan
That said: Talk about Twitter and FriendFeed all day every day. Don't forget to include: "I AM A SOCIAL MEDIA EXPERT" in all of your profiles.
- Mona Nomura
Make special badges that scream your self proclaimed title. You know, kind of like flair? Or girl/boy scouts?
- Mona Nomura
@Mona - heck yeah, huge % of new followers claim to be soc media experts.
- Todd Jordan
Todd- FAIL. You forgot Rule #163. NAME DROP. @scobelizer (I'm just namedropping but really addressing Mona... err @monaaa)
- Mona Nomura
Not call anyone out but I think it should be: " I AM A SOCIAL MEDIA SLUT!1!" ;-P
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Mathew - CRAP you stole my thunder... I'm working on a blog post entitled "How to know if you are a social media slut"... thanks!
- Brian Roy
Brian - I hope that comes after: "10,000 Ways to Effectively use Twitter for Business"
- Mona Nomura
I wish FF would timestamp comments. It'd be interesting to know how this conversation flowed...or jumped around.
- Liz
Mona - pretty sure those two are the same post... No?
- Brian Roy
Liz: Just hang out over the little convo balloon to the left of the comments. It shows you how long ago the comment was left. :-)
- Lisa L. Seifert
Be serious at ALL times since analyzing Social Networks with charts and graphs is THE FUTURE!
- Mona Nomura
Announce your twitter address after saying the pledge of allegiance over the school intercom system.
- David Rose
I drunk tweet all the time, and it doesn't help. People just email you AA invitations.
- Alex Wilhelm (FF BLOWS)
Since you are all here... I was wondering. Have you seen my car keys?
- Brian Roy
Another would be to make a Bacon Fan Club Room.
- Nicholas James
Will find out soon if becoming a social media diva pin-up acquires more followers :)
- Nicola Quinn
PLAY with your followers and build a community of FANS. Start a meme, host a trivia session (@linnetwoods), do fun thematic Blip.fm sets (@jesseluna, @Dave_Malby), start a fun-spirited smackdown battle with another Twitterer (@Dana_Wilhoit and @SeanAMcAlister). UStream and play Wii while you're lightly toasted with a fun friend (@queenofspain)
- Jesse P. Luna
Start your own threads using all and only Robert's suggestions. Originality means nothing, it's all about being a Robert clone!
- Mona Nomura
Be imperfect, fragile, human - someone everyone can relate to.
- Tomi Itkonen
Participate in memes where you can post old pictures of yourself from 70s, 80s or 90s.
- Larry Kless
@Scobleizer so far I tweet from party, wc, roadtrip, first minutes of the new year, wc again, meeting, boring meeting, boring presentation, wedding, engagement, hospital... I think I am on good track !!!
- Alemsah Ozturk
Talk like you are deluded into thinking the iPhone and Apple computers are superior machines.
- Mark Stahler
Help Robert getting 400 comments or any other all time high on friendfeed!
- Gaby K. Slezák
Here's the 401st for good measure! I kinda use Twitter and FF to keep up with new, and record ideas and thoughts for myself, but if some people out there find a common ground with me, that's very cool! I think too much is placed on these online friend / follower counts overall tho... BTW, this comment is probably on the "How NOT to get more followers on Twitter or FF" list. :) Keep feeding me the knowledge Scobs!
- AdPanda
Spell @Scobleizer correctly when trying to drop a name ... lol.
- Robert Couture
Bump .... @charlieanzman. I can't believe this thread!
- Charlie Anzman
Charlie - the sheer #s of comments or the fact that this is such a popular topic?
- Susan Beebe
How can you possibly read all of this and get anything done? This is an example of FF overkill.
- Scott Maentz
@Susan folks are now commenting for the fun of it. :)
- Todd Jordan
Wow! I remember when this began as three items, then Scoble got all giddy and inspired and started this hilarious chain of absurdity. Well done Mr. @Scobleizer
- Paul Povolni
Make sure to be a hater and nit-pick on every. little. thing. someone does online!
- Mona Nomura
Take everything someone says as a personal attack and rant!
- Mona Nomura
Complain about every. little. thing.
- Mona Nomura
Change your display name everyday aNd mAkE sUrE tO tYpE LiKe DiS
- Mona Nomura
Make sure to kiss a whole buncha *ss and name drop, name drop, name drop!
- Mona Nomura
every 3rd comment should be "noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooopooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooopoopoooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooppooooooooooooo oooo" wow... It is hard to enter that many o's on an iPhone. EDIT -> I put in spaces - apparently I annoyed Brandon...
- Brian Roy
@Brian: Please edit your post so it doesn't break everyone's feed. I'd like to not hide this item. Thanks.
- AJ Kohn
I think that I made a comment on this post but I can't find it. And Mona, you are cracking me up!!
- BEX
I wonder if there is a limit to how many comments can be added to a post on FF
- Susan Beebe
The funniest part about all this is that I've gotten a *ton* of followers for posting on this thread. Weird! I think once my programming-related FF activity resumes people will drop from my feed like flies :)
- Eric Florenzano
Too bad I can't tweet the link (yet) -- of this 400+ comment -- I don't know how to call this. Not a Tweetversation by any means. A FFversation? Anyone come out with any sensible terms?
- David Feng
I have some ideas, none of which are usable.
- WorldofHiglet
subscribe to Friendfeeds for Twitter Celebs and read their Twitter hints... Start with Scoble..
- TechMama Beth Blecherman
I see "423 more comments". That's the most I have ever seen so far in FF!
- Winston Teo
TechMama: that will work very well. Of course then you'll only be fed shallow news. The real good stuff is on the K list. They aren't on the bottom, so they have a few followers, but they really don't give a shit so they are very real and teach you stuff. Unfortunately they usually don't stay on the K list very long. They either get moved up pretty fast or they get put in rehab for social media addiction.
- Robert Scoble
What was this thread about? I forgot, AGAIN!
- Jim Bednarz
Jim: me too, it's taken on a life of its own. Oh, yeah, it was about how to make money with friendfeed. Heheheh. Yeah, right!
- Robert Scoble
Quick! Scoble's about to do a 'How to make money on friendfeed' post now. Looking for the hattrick ;~)
- Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
Ed: heheh. how to make money in friendfeed? Get a million followers. The money will come. Or maybe not. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert: I guess you could charge for seminars on how to get a million followers ;D
- Seth Greenblatt
Robert - Think you broke your own record with this one. 255 Likes and 437 comments ?! Guess nobody's embracing Friendfeed tonight :)
- Charlie Anzman
Nobody's gonna read this, but I can't help observing that "I've got 10000 followers" is kinda like saying "I have 1000 books on my bookshelf", as if the number, not the content, is the important thing.
- Mr. Gunn
Charlie .. his last one has 300 comments and over 300 likes I believe ... But this thread is 70 people away from reaching every single person on Friendfeed. (Given the 500 like rule)
- Tyler (Chacha)
ChaCha - Ya gotta love it. Now when he reaches everyone on the Internet ... :)
- Charlie Anzman
Susan - Wasn't ignoring you ... just got lost in the middle of this ScobleChaChaMeMeWhateverItIs ... night all :)
- Charlie Anzman
Most importantly, get followed by @scobleizer hope he retweets, likes and/or comments on your posts.
- Christian Anderson
Christian: that's fair. I keep hoping you retweet, like, or comment on mine! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Yikes, I see there are 442 "collapsed" comments that follow Robert Scoble's teaser! (I won't dare to "expand" them - it would take ages to read them all.) The subject clearly preys on people's minds... Scoble has a knack for hitting the right button!
- Yule Heibel
I wonder if Mobile Safari would have such an implosion that the iPhone would shatter in my hands, if I tried to expand that thread.
- MiniMage - HLtW
doing video works pretty well too :)
- Loic Le Meur
great, robert, this is *really* pushing the limit :)
- Alberto D'Ottavi
tweet about the size of Robert's ..... =X
- Rachael Depp
whoa comment frenzy! @FriendFeed can you please build a Comment Quality filter before I attempt to make sense of all this user generated erm "content"? Now there's a question: how do we measure Comment Quality?
- Bob Hitching
I was lucky enough to arrive at his 3rd or 4th point... it was amazing to see it happen on the fly, as I and other people jumped in. It was like a chat room or IM chat.
- Simon T Small
Oh, and by commenting a couple of times on this post, I got 36 new twitter followers and about 6 new friend feed followers in 12 hours
- Simon T Small
omg.. why isn´t there a comment link on the bottom as well ? Especially useful on the iphone. I forgot the witty remark that would ensure me thousands of followers by the time I finger-scrolled to the top and to the bottom again on this insanely long thread. Oh, well, at least my comments are seen sometimes.. hello ?
- Thomas Bøhm
I do like how #1: Stop your bloody begging and whining for followers is still showing though. :-P
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Re: 18., Tweet from the great beyond. INSANE follow numbers then. ;-p
- mtlb
This is certainly quite interesting thread. I wonder how many Likes this will get. :D
- Daniel Schildt
This thread has become a meme unto itself. As I once said, Robert Scoble plays social media like a virtuoso musician. FTW
- Sheldon Steiger
from twhirl
1. Start a list of something outrageous. Tell some friends who seem to get lots of conversations going about it. Just tweet them with their twitter address like this: @scobleizer in the post.
- Robert Scoble
2. Comment on yet another Robert Scoble List
- Tyler (Chacha)
2. Comment on other people's threads first. Say smart stuff. Be funny, cute, interesting, etc. Or, throw the "bacon bomb" into the comments. Don't know what the Bacon Bomb is? Ask Mona on friendfeed.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Thanks for all these lists. I love the humor mixed with good tips. It's fun!
- Mitchell Tsai
3. Follow people who seem to always get conversations going. This is very important on friendfeed because you'll get a sense of what works for them. And, you'll be the first to see the big conversations before anyone else. First post in friendfeed always is seen more.
- Robert Scoble
Hello folks, today its I'm-Scoble-And-I'm-Going-To-Do-All-The-Talking day :)
- Yuvi
@Scobleizer "lists" work for everything, blog posts, microblog posts, grocery shopping... They're effective for starting conversation and getting things done. If anything - that's the "gimme" in this list.
- Enrique Gutierrez
I was SO tempted to comment "first!" when I saw this pop up at 43 seconds. Urge controlled.
- Phil G
Ask a specific (appropriately geeky) question
- Prunella
5. Look at "Best of Day" on friendfeed and ignore it.
- Robert Scoble
be authentic... we can tell when you are fishing for attention...
- Brian Roy
Robert: Are you making lists so people can meet each other and get followed?
- Tyler (Chacha)
6. If you are talking about stuff on Techmeme you are too late. That news is always an hour late. Instead, use http://www.techfuga.com and get into the conversations that are happening now.
- Robert Scoble
Agree with #2. You could also tell people you don't like Bacon. Mona will soon talk to you ;)
- Nicholas James
7. Rif on something smart that one of the smart people say. Dave Winer, Tim O'Reilly, Steve Gillmor, etc.
- Robert Scoble
Make a list of Top Tweets of 2008 and Send a message to everyone on that list telling them they are there. ;-) http://twurl.nl/tbo2ll
- David Petherick
Chacha: I'm making lists because I'm playing with a new form that is enabled by both Twitter and friendfeed. I call it "interactive blogging."
- Robert Scoble
8. Post a picture of bacon. But you've gotta put something unusual into it. A picture of Mike Arrington, for instance.
- Robert Scoble
9. Teach people how to do something new.
- Robert Scoble
10. Complaining that no one is paying attention to you on twitter or friendfeed might work. Once or twice. But then we remember that's all you do and that you aren't bringing any value. So, long term this will hurt you. Plus, there's always someone who is begging who has a better beg.
- Robert Scoble
Announce a list and let other ppl write it for you
- Trung Ly
I think Jim Rome's advice to callers to his show (so they don't get 'run') applies: "Have a take, don't suck."
- Patrick Jordan
11. Click "Like" on 100 new things that caught your eye. We do see that and we do notice that you're adding important meta data to the system. Even if we don't notice you'll have 100 new friendfeed items to comment on now. Just visit the "me" tab and then click on "Likes" over on the right side and you'll see them all.
- Robert Scoble
12. Have sex with someone who always has lots of comments. Have Duncan Riley post pictures!
- Robert Scoble
13. Get laid off. But have a great story. Even better? Start a room on friendfeed for people to talk with you about your future.
- Robert Scoble
You forgot about re-tweeting this post :)
- Jim Reynolds
Prunella gets it! It is easier to comment on things if you ask a question that is interesting!
- Robert Scoble
Challenge a high profile Twitterer who is incapable of not responding to critique. You'll get at least a few Tweets back & forth, probably mostly negative but people will know who you are and either think you're an inspired rebel or an ass.
- Liz
Don't participate in other people's threads but constantly complain how no one notices you!
- Mona Nomura
What about also admitting ignorance? I find that helps.
- Todd Jordan
14. Get someone who gets lots of comments to "Like" your item. This takes getting to know a few people and what they like. It also might mean giving them a phone call, sending them email, chatting with them on Facebook, or generally stalking them. Social media is great for stalking. I know everything that Guy Kawasaki and Tim O'Reilly are thinking due to social media. Hint, we're all egotistical baaahhhssstttaaarrrddddssss and we all look at our replies in Twitter. Just include @scobleizer in your tweet!!!
- Robert Scoble
hahahhahahahhahahah!!!!!!!!!!!! <---laugh at all of Robert's jokes wiht a bajillion exclamation points to get noticed. Bonus points for wine!
- Mona Nomura
Todd: you're onto something there. Chris Pirillo does this. He asks his followers tech questions. I do to. "How do you backup your stuff?" got lots of comments because I needed to know what's the best way to do it. I was ignorant on the topic and my followers taught me (and everyone else).
- Robert Scoble
15. Say something outrageous like "Palm Pre kills the iPhone." Oh, wait, that's not outrageous, it's just a fact that hasn't been widely understood yet. Heheh. Seriously, take on Apple and you are almost guaranteed a conversation. You just gotta be prepared for the backlash.
- Robert Scoble
Today's list is looking a lot like last night's list. Why 20?
- Liz
Do you see why Mona gets more comments on her items than anyone else I know? Bing! Well, that and she posts GREAT pictures and little funny items.
- Robert Scoble
Robert? Regarding number two: It's Bacon Explosion, not bacon bomb!
- Mona Nomura
16. Post great pictures and funny little items like Mona.
- Robert Scoble
17. Baby photos. Louis Gray. Enough said.
- Robert Scoble
18. Tell a retweetable story. Chris Brogan has this down. Study what he is doing and do it better.
- Robert Scoble
Robert - he stepped up his baby picture game and cartoonized his photos. He raised the bar!!
- Mona Nomura
19. Hang out with people who get lots of conversations going. Go to lots of events where friendfeeders and twitterers hang out. Here's a list: http://upcoming.yahoo.com/user...
- Robert Scoble
20. ignore the conversation starters and people with many followers and go do something more interesting instead. It's better to have something to Twitter and Friendfeed ABOUT rather than hang around here worrying about it. Go live your life, Social Media will be here when you get back with something to say.
- Tim
Liz: if you do a list it doesn't matter how many items you promise as long as you get to the number you are promising. Something about lists is conversational. This is why magazines put numbers on their covers so often "7 ways to please your lover." Etc. Etc. If I were really smart I'd do a list like "7 ways Windows 7 will increase your sex life." Hah, that might be my next list!
- Robert Scoble
Tim: having something interesting to say is NOT a prerequisite for getting people to comment on your items. I have many examples of proof.
- Robert Scoble
20. Talk about Daft Punk and why they are or aren't the downfall of the next generation.
- Robert Scoble
It isn't Daft Punk anyway, they're just temps with masks.
- Tim
Got any others? Seriously, if you aren't getting noticed here it's probably because you are posting things that aren't conversational. I'm watching tons of inbound from everyone on this list and looking for things to engage with. You can see the items that I like here: http://friendfeed.com/scoblei...
- Robert Scoble
I love talking about how Daft Punk, Radiohead, and Coldplay suck and are nothing but three piece suit rock made safe for wussys. :P
- MarkCarras
True Robert, but at least you've gotten away from the computer and had a good time. This year I am going to dah dah! go outside and away from Social Media...live first, Social Media later. I am going to become the first Social Media Hermit (transitioning from Social Media Terrorist, as I am now). 2009 is about living your life...and creating it....which will generate FAR more ideas than monging around on t'Internets.
- Tim
21. Practice - try talking to people in the real world.
- Brian Roy
Daft Punk is definitely an innovator through its music and its marketing, whether one likes them or not
- Bertrand Doux
I always hear 80's New Wave when someone shows me a song that shows how "Innovative" they are. Sorry. Homogenized, sterilized, and watered down for the for the masses.
- MarkCarras
I wouldn't consider the posts between the bullets as highjackers. It's all part of the conversation and makes it so much more interesting as an interactive list than just a list of 20 things thrown out for our consumption.
- Ernie Oporto
from Nambu
2. At Microsoft when given a camcorder I aimed it at everyone else OTHER than myself. I discovered that if you want to be an egotistical baaahhhhsssttttaaarrrrrdddd you've gotta help other people's egos first.
- Robert Scoble
Is it me, or is this egregious follower-baiting :-)?
- Jason Wong
3. You've gotta find some way to get all the other egos on this list to talk about you. That ain't easy, but if you want to get onto this list it is a must. Let's discover some ways to do that...
- Robert Scoble
5. Give @guykawasaki a new marketing trick that he didn't think of.
- Robert Scoble
6. Show @jasoncalacanis a way to make even more money.
- Robert Scoble
Curious what the diff in traffic is from being at the bottom or top of an alltop category. I'm on alltop in a specific directory, but I barely get any traffic from them.
- Douglas Karr
7. Bring a bottle of wine to @loic that he's never had before that he likes. (I did that with a wine from Sonoma and he said it was the first California wine he could get interested in).
- Robert Scoble
8. Do something interesting with RSS and get @davewiner to like it.
- Robert Scoble
This seems like the same list as before. I smell something fishy going on.
- MarkCarras
Douglas: if you are really going to be egotistical you can't care about traffic. There's something that matters to egos FAR more than that. What is it? Whether or not you are talking about them. At Microsoft I NEVER looked at my stats. I ALWAYS looked at blog search engines to see what people were saying about me and about others.
- Robert Scoble
9. Find out what people want, then do a friendfeed list about it. I noticed that everyone on Twitter seems to be begging for followers. So, I gave in and did a list of how to get more followers.
- Robert Scoble
10. Say that the Alltop egos page is bullshit, because it is. Explain why and you probably will get looked at by Guy Kawasaki (he's the guy who decides who goes on this list).
- Robert Scoble
Mark: there are some overlaps, yes! Bing. Bing. Bing!
- Robert Scoble
the secret of getting on alltop: schmooze GK | the secret of getting on popurls: be high quality
- thomas marban
11. Tell Kara Swisher who the next Yahoo CEO is. But you've gotta be right and you can't be Jerry Yang (she already talks with him nearly every day).
- Robert Scoble
12. Be someone with a big ego. Bill Clinton, for instance.
- Robert Scoble
I just thought I'd help you point out how retarded lists like this are and how much most bloggers just regurgitate the same info over and over again. There is nothing new under the internet sun it seems at times.
- MarkCarras
thomas: schmoozing helps, but there are lots of people who schmooze like Buzz Bruggeman who aren't on the Egos page. To get on this page you've gotta have something more. You've gotta make Guy Kawasaki laugh.
- Robert Scoble
Mark: NOW you are getting the handle on this ego thing. Keep going... :-)
- Robert Scoble
13. Say something that Tim O'Reilly retweets. Repeat 200 times. That should get you onto this page. If you do the hard work and you don't get on, then you'll be credible when you say this list is bullshit. Which, of course, it is. But to get on the list you've gotta have credible proof. And you've gotta be both a big thinker and a big ego.
- Robert Scoble
14. Be Mike Arrington. Oh, wait, start a famous blog. Yes, that requires staying up until 2 a.m. and blogging something interesting every day for a few years. Sorry, not too many shortcuts here.
- Robert Scoble
I think I've been training for this all my life.
- MarkCarras
15. Be Barack Obama's social media queen or king.
- Robert Scoble
16. Make outrageous bets with John Dvorak. Win. Back when we bet on Obama vs. McCain Obama still hadn't beat Hillary. That said, John is wrong more lately than he's right. Speaking of which, getting on Cranky Geeks (his show) will help you get onto this page.
- Robert Scoble
17. If everyone is talking about how big your ego is over and over you probably deserve to be on this page. I bet Guy is doing Twitter searches on the word "ego" to see if any good egotistical baaahhhsssttttaaarrrdddd's are out there.
- Robert Scoble
18. Interview Guy Kawasaki. He's an egotistical baaaahhhhhsssttttaaarrrrdddd and he loves it when you pay attention to him and help him make money. Make sure you ask him about his book and Alltop.
- Robert Scoble
19. Tell a billionaire what to do with his/her life. Or, even better, his/her company.
- Robert Scoble
No offense, but if I ever get on that list, I'm retiring from the Internet.
- Enrique Gutierrez
from twhirl
21. Insert your own megalomaniacal and unjustifiably self-important item into scobleizer's list polemically proclaiming a superior solution. Such as: create your own new Alltop knock-off using the words "meta" or "uber" and give RS userID #1 and exclusive First Post access.
- michael silverton
I'll tell you what guarantees you won't be on it: Asking to be placed on it. Guy
- Guy Kawasaki
I really hate Alltop and unfollowed Guy Kawasaki on Twitter for his Alltop Spam. I hate Alltop mostly because of the Feedburner stats they try to aggregate and I hate it even more when Guy Kawasaki tried to get Twitterers to sign up for auto-tweeting Alltop "stories" via TwitterFeed.
- Richard Metzler
Enrique: you have to have an ego to say that you don't want to be on the ego list. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Just a small note. It took 26 minutes for Guy Kawasaki to comment on this thread. On a Sunday morning. Do you see how this works? :-)
- Robert Scoble
i wanted to get on the ego list, anyone around here knows i should be but guy put on the seo page instead, oh well :) i'll follow some of these steps, maybe i can get dual all top citizenship
- sean percival
I have an ego page... my blog... my startup's home page... As far as who else puts me on an ego page... I think I'll just focus on the stuff I can control and leave that up to them.
- Brian Roy
@Scobleizer oh, my ego is massive, but if I had a list to go with, I'd quit for fear of combustion.
- Enrique Gutierrez
from twhirl
@seanpercival you're not on the ego list on alltop? the hell is that all about? the list is rigged, I say!! :P
- Enrique Gutierrez
from twhirl
i know what else must a man do? i have stickers made with my face and my biz cards are metal! thats it im getting zune guy to tattoo my avatar on his arm.
- sean percival
These lists are both interesting and entertaining but the suggestions appear to be targeted at PR professionals or social media consultant wannabes. Most users of social networking tools don't have time to invest in being popular. They just want to find (or be found by) relevant information and participate in interesting conversations. Any advice for us?
- scott anderson
Richard Metzler just got bumped to top of Alltop.
- michael silverton
The key to having an ego is knowing that you're perfect
- John Bellone
The key to having an ego is secretly knowing that everytime you open your mouth, you are right ...
- Alemsah Ozturk
I will not be on Alltop's Egos page, but that's OK with me. I have named my blog EGO and have been blogging since 2002. EGO stands for I in Latin. I will soon start a new interview series of my podcast show with individuals who have rational egos and want to have a form of mutual exchange as a conversation with me, sharing their knowledge and ideas with my podcast listeners and blog readers.
- Martin Lindeskog
It's not the 26 minutes that matter; it's the Attentional Capacity and Cognitive Behavior to notice such things in stride. Welcome to the Attention Economy. However, do not worry if you don't "get it" right away; unlike the brutalizing rush to the bottom of Industrial Capitalism; in the next stage of human expression, the handholding not only continues, it gets continuously and consciously better. Competitive advantage giving way to Uplift and Inclusion: fostering Cooperative, Collaborative Advantage.
- michael silverton
I never liked the term "citizen journalism" -- it only views it from one dimension, and makes it sound (to me at least) US-centric. The reporting job I describe here was very much an international effort, if it was done by citizens -- they were citizens of the world. How is that different from the reporting done by professionals, who are also citizens?
- Dave Winer
Wait, what do microformats for HTML thumbnailing have to do with Watergate-style investigative reporting? The point about reporting seems reasonable, but this seems like a stupendously bad example, because everyone knows bloggers are all about jumping all over some technical arcana and getting all hepped up about whether you can or can not add attributes to a link tag in whatever. An infinitely better example would be Groklaw, or maybe source reporting of the Oakland riots or the plane crash in Denver.
- ⓞnor
That's just plain silly. What difference does it make if the subject matter is thumbnails or break-ins. And everyone loves to cite Watergate, as if that happens every day in print journalism. More often, much more often, they kill stories because it would offend the publisher or a friend of the publisher. The real star of the movie was Ben Bradlee who let the reporters go wild. These days even the reporter, Woodward, is in bed with his subjects. You can't trust the journos to bite the hand that feeds them.
- Dave Winer
Thumbnail formats are something you can investigate with your keyboard and web browser, and also don't really matter much. Political break-ins require you to go out there, pound a lot of pavement, talk to a lot of reluctant people, and take real personal risks to understand something that's way outside your own daily life, and they can be vital to uncover. I think there's a huge difference. Please note that I'm not actually disagreeing with you, I just think your example is really not very motivating.
- ⓞnor
Come over to the discussion on the blog post. I just responded to this and someone else who said largely the same thing. Fact is we've tried doing the deep background digging, and even had sources (me!) and guess what happens -- no one stands. The problem is there isn't any courage *anywhere* -- we all just sit by and let the big companies push us around and don't do anything. When you try, you're out there on your own. Eventually you give up -- that's basically what I've done.
- Dave Winer
Dave's outlined the process, now it seems everyone is just arguing about the subject matter of the investigation and it's relative importance. Probably not going to change peoples minds/positions until the subject matter is more mainstream. Groklaw was a good example though it's still obscure to most.
- PXLated
Marshall Kirkpatrick writes an amazing guide on how you can find thought leaders in any industry.
- Tamar Weinberg
Methodical and sensible - one path through the social media forest. Sure there are others, though it is wonderful when someone's done the exploring and mapping. Good share, thanks Tamar
- Rob Kramer
"Large, and with a long, thin snout, the Hispaniolan solenodon resembles an overgrown shrew; it can inject passing prey with a venom-loaded bite."
- Jemm
from Bookmarklet
I've refined the job survey (based on some of your feedback) here's what I'm planning on launching soon. The purpose? To help folk understand who's being hired and WHY http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewfor...
Do you think there are any missing questions, or anything needs to be revised? Please note this is a personal project, not with my employer. I'm trying to help the community.
- Jeremiah Owyang
I recently dug up an article I wrote on theserverside.com back in 2001 titled "A J2EE Developers Perspective on Surviving the Job Crunch", which was well received and got more than 700 replies (this was before blogs, or YPN/Adsense :-$ ) Anyways lots of stuff I wrote in surviving Tech Bubble 1.0 still applies to surviving Global Meltdown Bubble 2.0. So hopefully this will help those who are searching: http://genechuang.blogspot.com/2008...
- Gene Chuang
Tac thanks for being one of the first signups
- Jeremiah Owyang
http://www.Microsoft.com/tag This is the coolest thing I have seen so far. You can add these color tags to things and any phone can read them. They released an iPhone app today! Free!
- Robert Scoble
from email
I like this idea. It's the same principle as scanning a supermarket barcode. We need more of this; Japan has it, after all! Thx for the post.
- Allen S.
Interesting but do we really need another one? I have three of these apps on my phone already. Barcorama seems to be the most versatile but I doubt it will have MS's new stuff. These "Smart pox" systems have been around for years in Asia, do we really need to reinvent the system?
- Kalidor
after looking at the site, it is like the QR codes, except colorful and by proxy hip
- David
yeah, QR Code is already well established in Japan.
- Toni @ NavinoT
Oh, neat! Just wish there was support for crappy old WinMobile devices like mine. (Mine runs 2003SE, and I can't afford to upgrade to something modern at this time.)
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
This was actually one of my startup ideas from a while back. Seemed inevitable. Print Biz card with QR (or QRcode like) and use the cameraphone to scan. Additionally you would never be without a business card if you had your phone since you could use the screen to display the code, the other phone takes a pic of your screen presto.
- mikepk
also, you use the geo data in the phone to assign a location to when / where you "met" the person
- mikepk
meta data gets attached by the very act of scanning
- mikepk
chris, that was one of the things I thought was cool about this startup idea, you don't need a fancy phone (although it helps). Just snap a photo with cameraphone and email it to an online service to process. (or upload after the fact) makes it much more accesible.
- mikepk
very cool spin to something that is already in wide use in Japan. Kudos to Microsoft for seeing the applications of this. I'm going to have to try this on my phone.
- Bryan
the zune tattoo guy is going to need some more ink :-D
- Karim
Would this not be just like 2d bar codes that nokia has been doing for some time? http://mobilecodes.nokia.com/ Cool but not new for the masses just new for Microsoft possibly.
- Sloan Bowman
Hey, I was the second follower of their abandoned-looking @microsofttag account. This program looks cool but appears to be a typical MSFT rush job on all ends. Program launched a blank website, and when I tried to report the bug the form said "Special characters (< and >) are not allowed in full name." (Of course there are none in my name)
- Carl Black
Another iPhone app from Microsoft. I grabbed it, but oh yeah - I don't have any of these brand new proprietary tag images around to try it out...
- Josh Bancroft
Worked the very first time on a BB 8330 with what I thought would be an inferior photo. Very interesting. I think I'll try making a tag.
- Dave Holle II
David: yes, these are like QR codes but that work much more accurately and can be far smaller than QR codes.
- Robert Scoble
I'd like quantification of accurate and smaller. QR codes can work with over 50% of it damaged, and I have once working that are 3/4'" on each side? I wouldn't mind seeing smaller if it becomes a standard. I notice MS's website doesn't have this info? What do they say?
- Kalidor
Kalidor: the microsoft tags are smaller in size and can be read without special lenses on your cell phone. They seem to work a lot more accurately here.
- Robert Scoble
Not sure what you mean by special lenses, the Moto V220 I got from Rogers for free (so you can imagine the quality) had no problem with those squares on salty posters in TO streets? Do some phones need wide angle lenses or something then?
- Kalidor
Amani ... it's TagReader (you can also find via search on 'Microsoft')
- David HC Soul
Absolutely cool, this thing rocks. Tried it on multiple tags and it is able to recognize most of the tags easily. With even 2 MP camera phone it works great. Now the question, how do I make my own tags??
- Deepak Sharma
Oh, please. QR code are exactly the same, they work perfectly well. No news here. And more: it seems that after a period of free beta, creating tag will cost you money. Oh, dear, QR codes are free, instead. Nice try.
- Federico [Kurai]
Federico: they are not the same. Look into it. And not everything Microsoft does is evil.
- Robert Scoble
I'm not saying that this is evil. Just I don't get how this is different from QR codes (except for the fancy colours). But, don't get me wrong, Robert, I'm happy for this idea. QR rocks in Japan, but never really made their way in the rest of the world. Maybe Microsoft will be able to get this technology to spread. I think it's great for games.
- Federico [Kurai]
The Adobe TV demo of Flash doing this in a browser with a regular web cam is very cool. http://tv.adobe.com/#vi+f15... Long video but worth it. Jump to 41:00 min and 49:00min
- Andrew Smith
Created my first tag, posted to blog, took unbelievably blurry photo with my iPhone from the blog page on notebook (hand shaking, balanced on lap & low light) it took me successfully in the Safari browser right to the page. Wonderful. I'm looking at incorporating this for a Sports Hall of Fame to link exhibits to a virtual archive with supplemental information.... this will integrate a Second Place of Learning" with a virtual "Third Place of Learning" so that the two can be combined into one experience!
- David HC Soul
This is at least 7 or 8 years old technology. I have early versions of such cards laying in the bottom of boxes in my office somewhere. 2009 off to a rockin' start.
- michael silverton
michael: old cue cat scans weren't designed to be used by blurry cell phone cameras.
- Robert Scoble
I was thinking of printing bar code info on business cards that could be scanned by the G1 code reader. If this works, way cool!
- Greg Birch
I'm impressed, I work in the sign industry and this could have some interesting applications if enough people start to use it. The dialer tag worked quickly even when blurry and slightly crooked.
- Patrick Looney
mkay. but i'm sure you'd agree there's a fairly bright distinction between 'breakthrough' and 'refinement' right? why are we still awake? tomorrow will be a huge day! goodnight! ;-)
- michael silverton
Robert: QRcode worked as a charm with my E61 camera, which is not the best around (2 megapixel, more blurry than the iPhone one).
- Federico [Kurai]
I personally am a MS fan but have to say that in my opinion adding some colors doesn't really mean anything related to innovation. I think the size and ability to be read are depending on the resolution of the consumer device more than the underlying technologies and do you really think that changing the items from squares to triangles and adding some color could increase quality? Is there any academic paper about this issue?
- Kivanc Toker
And why to market a total new product from scratch rather than working together with Nokia? Theye are already embedding 2d barcode readers to their new products supporting the 2 widespread 2d barcode technologies which are QR and Datamatrix.
- Kivanc Toker
QR codes can be scanned, recognized, and stored while working offline. Microsoft tags require Internet connectivity, and they have to go through Microsoft server to be useful. It makes them only marginally better than cool, easy to type domain name.
- andrei_c
QR Codes are also in many products in Asia. Here in Hong Kong almost all products from Nokia, Sony Ericsson and Japanese cosmetic brands have QR Codes on them. BTW: @Leather the Google project is called ZXing http://tr.im/36xc
- Vinko
Can't get it to install on my non-fancy phone ;-) Guess I'll have to stick with QR codes for now!
- Nick Jones
it requires an internet connection meaning the data in the tag isn't really stored in the tag itself whereas QR codes hold all the data in their respective code. it's color also so forget about kids using this to advertise their band's party on campus using their cheap black and white printers.
- Stefan Constantinescu
@andrei_c, @Stefan The tags *could* hold all the data in the code; but less data is necessary if everything's routed through what's essentially a "tinyurl" service. I think that's what's going on here. I'm sure using tinyurl or another shortening service w/ QR yields a more legible QR code. A tag of any kind, QR or otherwise, is no good if it can't be read.
- Wade Dorrell
@Federico These can be read too. But at what angles? In what lighting? On which camera, at which quality setting? What URL, a long one or a short one? All I'm saying is using a shorter URL probably increases the odds that the code can be read, and I should say, read quickly & easily, both for QR & this tech.
- Wade Dorrell
CueCat, anyone? Still, it seems like an interesting take on QR Codes, and the 2D barcode "data pointer" concept in general.
- Tyson Key
Never had a single problem with the E61i camera (which is a pretty standard 2mpixel) in every lighting condition. The scan is fast and reliable. I really don't see the need to use a third party server just for a small increase in the reliability. Japanese are using QR for a long time now, it is an open and affordable technology. Microsoft is proprietary and less economic, with few appreciable advantages.
- Federico [Kurai]
I like it, set up a few myself. Will put on my blog that i never seem to update. Showed a friend and he set his twitter picture to it which sends the user to his blog. Be interesting to see it around.
- Simon Wicks
WARNING: PISSING & MOANING - Why must Microsoft pull this crap. There areW codes like QR which are used all over the world. Just because it hasn't caught on in America, Microsoft has to go and create their own tag that they can license for profit. This is why America is behind in tech coolness. Standards exist. Look at Japan, Finland, etc.. I'm envious of what they have and I'm pissed because it's the Microsofts of America that are preventing us from having this kind of tech.
- Pete Barry
Pete, how does Microsoft Neapolitan ice cream "prevent" us from having somebody else's vanilla? :-) if Google was on top of things, they would have rolled out QR and *integrated it with AdWords.* Print ads that drive to website = $$$$.
- Karim
[light bulb goes on over head] now if you'll excuse me, I have to go file a patent. lol
- Karim
wow -- very cool. I wonder what's going on with Google's QR
- Mike
I just wrote up my thoughts here - http://www.centernetworks.com/microso... - this is very disappointing -r eminds me of facebook connect - i really like where qr codes are going and now we get this new microsoft tag?
- Allen Stern
@waded I agree and understand, however, as long as there are places like airplanes, trains, rural areas, foreign countries with expensive roaming, etc, routing through server is a deal breaker. We aren't going to have truly ubiquitous Internet access for at least a decade. And I don't even want to start on how this limits range of devices that can support tags. Basically, it rules out everything except smartphones and laptops with attached cameras.
- andrei_c
I just tried it. It launches the IE browser on my phone (HTC Fuze) instead of the much better Opera browser. Make sure to uncheck the "Always launch IE" in settings to get it working with your default mobile browser. They should have made this the default, at least until they improve the mobile browser.
- Jim Cahill
@yesthatkarim You are absolutely right. There are choices. My fear is that the general public will go with the one that is publicized and that will be MSFT Tag. There are a handful of QR code readers for the iPhone which I've tried out and they work great. I just tried to create a MSFT Tag to try their iPhone app and they required a login. That's a big FAIL. It's just sad to see some tech companies embracing openness while others keep their doors locked.
- Pete Barry
@andrei_c supposedly the application can store the scanned tag for later use in a disconnected situation; I read that somewhere on microsoft.com.
- Wade Dorrell
There are some benefits to what Microsoft is doing; less space used for the same amount of data compared to QR/DataMatrix codes., tracking, lots of $ to push the effort. But the BIG problem I see is that Microsoft will be able to track all of these codes. QR and DataMatrix codes embed the ACTUAL data in the image. The Tag just embeds a code that the MS site uses to redirect the browser. Come on MS, just get behind a proven, public domain standard like DataMatrix.
- Mark Simonds
I want to digest this post some more, but it relates closely to the project that @hardaway and I are working on here http://www.ushealthcrisis.com/ There are some parallels in your thinking around access to the pipes that apply to our health care issues too.
- Karoli
@Karoli .. great :) I don't feel totally like I was way off in left field on this
- Steven Hodson
I don't think you were off at all; particularly on your thoughts about the system being as weak as the weakest link which is the lack of access to the network (and information) by many, especially those without the means to pay for it.
- Karoli
@Karoli I've still got a lot of thoughts on this so there will be more posts about Social Technology as I get them sorted out
- Steven Hodson
you did not convince me. it'll happen sooner than you think. you can say i'm a dreamer, but i'm not the only one.
- scott anderson
@Scott I truly hope you are right - the benefits would be incredible
- Steven Hodson
@ana ma roopa don't know that I agree with the generalization in your comment. It certainly CAN spread ignorance, but that goes back to the question of who you trust and who you don't. Like any other medium, including television, newspapers, or face-to-face interaction, ignorance spreads with lack of critical thought and investigation.
- Karoli
The only point of disagreement is the timeframe. If we don't all destroy each other first I think this will happen in our lifetime. If you consider the rate of change of the past 40 years as compared to the past 100, and then compare the past 100 to the past 1000 I think we can safely say we are seeing hyperevolution. Those things that we say won't happen in 10 years often are seen within 2 or 3. I give it 15 - 20 tops. GREAT POST!
- Keith - @tsudo
nice article. sounded very passionate. i would say this only: social technology has existed on the web almost since its early days as a consumer platform. It's evolved and changed, but it's always been here. It is the user that has evolved.
- Patricia
@Patricia I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on how this is the case. You can email me if you would prefer (steven @ winextra . com)
- Steven Hodson
Steven, an excellent post. It makes me think (again) and I like that. I'm beginning to understand the complexity of the issue you are addressing. I think it is well worth a followup. You have triggered some thoughts I think I will be writing down in a post myself ;-) (comment via Disqus by Alexander van Elsas)
- Steven Hodson
thank you Alexander. The conversation we had via Skype did help and I look forward to your thoughts on the idea. I know I still have more that I want to write about this because it isn't an all-in-one type subject so any input is greatly welcomed. (comment via Disqus by StevenHodson)
- Steven Hodson
The fear factor for me with the kind of connectivity you mention is a privacy issue - "they" would always be able to know where I am if I am always plugged in and identified. I know it sounds paranoid, but... (comment via Disqus by Kathleen Seide)
- Steven Hodson
Steven: Instead of saying a blanket 'this won't happen in our time' i think it is worth thinking bigger. In my children's lifetime of 10 years, we went from having a few early adopters with cell phones and web browsers to a huge percentage of developed world society having one or both. Companies are working to make at least basic mobile access available almost everywhere - My friend...
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- Steven Hodson
I appreciate the sentiment, Robert. I agree it's a noble aspiration, but I don't see it happening in our lifetimes. I see how far we've come though, as I remember the days when we learned that someday we'd be able to book our airline reservations on the computer, etc. It's quite fascinating, as is your view. Thank you for sharing it. (comment via Disqus by Lizz Harmon)
- Steven Hodson
rather than address your point in the comments Phil - because they are interesting ones - I'll be looking at them in another post about Social Technology. thanks (comment via Disqus by StevenHodson)
- Steven Hodson
wow .. thanks Adam ... I'm kind of at a loss of words. (comment via Disqus by StevenHodson)
- Steven Hodson
We will probably always have divisions - that almost seems like human nature but with social Technology I they would be less stringent and less about classifications of people unlike what we have today. I grew up as well knowing the same as you - I have spent most of my life knowing that as well but just because we grew up with a certain class structure doesn't mean it has to be one that our grandchildren grow up with. (comment via Disqus by StevenHodson)
- Steven Hodson
Steven - you are ahead of your time....that's all. Not sure what else to add other than I wish everyone saw things as clearly as you. (comment via Disqus by Adam Singer)
- Steven Hodson
This is an important post. I only wish there were more posts like this. I like the triad of what social media isn't. Technology doesn't change the fundamental problems of being human. And yet we have always sought technological solutions to human problems. Religion is a technology (interface with God); government is a technology (automation of moral codes and mandates). Those solutions...
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- Steven Hodson
the reality you assume will not be realized in our lifetime is already real .. to a mystic, a yogi, anybody with developed awareness .. the whole tech dance is only about out-picturing what the mind can already do ... (comment via Disqus by gregorylent)
- Steven Hodson
Steven: Instead of saying a blanket 'this won't happen in our time' i think it is worth thinking bigger. In my children's lifetime of 10 years, we went from having a few early adopters with cell phones and web browsers to a huge percentage of developed world society having one or both. Companies are working to make at least basic mobile access available almost everywhere - My friend...
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- Steven Hodson
This is an important post. I only wish there were more posts like this. I like the triad of what social media isn't. Technology doesn't change the fundamental problems of being human. And yet we have always sought technological solutions to human problems. Religion is a technology (interface with God); government is a technology (automation of moral codes and mandates). Those solutions...
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- Steven Hodson
Steven: Instead of saying a blanket 'this won't happen in our time' i think it is worth thinking bigger. In my children's lifetime of 10 years, we went from having a few early adopters with cell phones and web browsers to a huge percentage of developed world society having one or both. Companies are working to make at least basic mobile access available almost everywhere - My friend...
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- Steven Hodson
This is an important post. I only wish there were more posts like this. I like the triad of what social media isn't. Technology doesn't change the fundamental problems of being human. And yet we have always sought technological solutions to human problems. Religion is a technology (interface with God); government is a technology (automation of moral codes and mandates). Those solutions...
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- Steven Hodson
what about truncated, collapsable/expandable threading?
- David Lloyd
And maybe "Nine ways Friendfeed could make money" hehe
- David Lloyd
Twitter should license their technology to companies for intranets.
- Michael Gaines
TweetSense. Ad Tweets served BY Twitter, who has the best idea of your Tweet volume and subject matter. http://www.blindfiveyearold.com/tweetse... Lowest hanging fruit, contextual ads on the Twitter Search page.
- AJ Kohn
What about platform support via dev tools? Encourage the ecosystem and make money at the same time? (Apologies, Robert, I replied on Twitter first.)
- Tim Beyers
premium blogger services. Cool site integration tools with metrics.
- Chris Baskind
10. add premium support for app developers.
- Darren Stuart
Considering they have had 100% uptime for a few months, you have to think stability is fine now and they have their engineers beavering away on new features. Of course digg has 80 engineers and hardly ever seems to launch anything :p
- David Lloyd
11. sell inhouse or managed solutions to companies for their own uses internally and sell federation CAL's so they can connect the internal solution to the wider twitter network so that specific users can tweet to the public.
- alphaxion
Sell the entire background page to brands by the hour/day with some of the area being made available for discounts/offers. (You need something to benefit users too, not just Twitter.) ;-p
- mtlb
I'm a little scared of the day all these FREE Social Networking sites CLOSE THE DOOR ON FREE, with all my data inside.
- PaulFrankRizzo
Paul: I don't think free is going away. But I sure would pay for decent DM features, for instance. Lots of companies would pay for custom skinning features.
- Robert Scoble
By following a brand's advertising account you consent to receiving ads from them. Add some profiling info to this and it could be a powerful tool to receive adverts on a users terms.
- John Galpin
7.1> Post ad-tweets every half an hour from twitter account, which every twitter user will follow by default (have to follow by default). Make changes to API, so that people can't work around it and dodge this tweet.
- | Balu |
freemium is definitely the way, one flavor or another. you don't want to kill the value of the network - quantity and quality - by driving away elements of it. plus for every paying site, there will always be a new free site up in less time it takes to say "bob's my uncle"
- Pascal Bouvier
Create daily reports for similar types of tweets and licence that data to various companies, this will be user generated marketing report.
- Shanthala Balagopal
Chris: in that case I hope they do all nine! Just kidding, but, seriously, these sites need to find a way to make some revenues or they'll go away. If you don't want them to find a revenue model you are NOT a good user of these systems.
- Robert Scoble
ugh, can we please look at ways for twitter to make money without resorting to adverts? I'm pretty sure there's loads of ways, I've mentioned the one I have been bleeting on about for months now. How about you? Can you come up with ways to make money without going cap in hand to advertisers?
- alphaxion
alphaxion: most of these are not about advertising.
- Robert Scoble
Every local government needs to be on twitter, on their own twitter - and so does every state and federal government, police and emergency service - operated privately and 'independently' from the main twitter stream.
- Chris Loft
care to comment about Obama and his 8 million strong email database taken into the Govt side? I am a community organizer and feel that email list belongs to the people
- bcultral
Create a premium 'breaking news' service from data mining existing content and sell it to the old media.
- Andrew Leyden
apart from 6 ;) Tho I'm addressing the others who are commenting rather than your suggestions. Trying to tease a bit of creative thinking out of people. I think it is a very healthy activity to get people working on ideas for how to make money and excluding the advertisers at the same time.
- alphaxion
Chris: friendfeed has the same business model choices ahead of them to make too.
- Robert Scoble
Selling my email address is NOT a way to make money. People will lose faith and/or start using phony emails for signups.
- Michael Gaines
Alphaxion: #6 is actually about Context Optional, a company that creates very creative, viral ads. If you're going to do ads, that's the way to do it.
- Robert Scoble
squeeze the advertisers...users should not have to pay for service ..other then paying to put up with advertisers and regulating and demanding subtlety
- bcultral
Chris: hah! Actually most of the dating services are going to free models so they'll need to use some of these 9 too.
- Robert Scoble
Robin: problem is that advertisers are going away. TechCrunch is hearing that this year could see some sites have 50% fewer ad revenues than before. So, you'll see more sites use these nine business models on you.
- Robert Scoble
Have Twitter subscribers pick a few products to "endorse", and have ads with their Twitter names attached to them. Then, give those users a discount based on # of clicks.
- Michael Gaines
Robert: not forgetting that comps can simply sing up with an account and tweet updates from there, which is where inhouse and federation can be handy. New version release? An auto tweet to the public can be done
- alphaxion
Chris: adsense is shit. Pays low CPMs. HotorNot makes $10 by selling virtual flowers. I'd love to be able to put a flower on your comments. Or something else. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Turn "following" into a Multi-Level Marketing pyramid!
- Rick Tuttle
very interesting discussion, robert. thank you! after 2 months of running Magpie (http://be-a-magpie.com), I can resume that #2 from your list works really well for both tweeps (they earn) and advertisers.
- Jan Schulz-Hofen
the sale of commercial API keys so that software such as starteam or sourceforge could tweet out info automatically based on trigger events to both private and public twitter networks.
- alphaxion
Charge for Groups feature ala Yammer
- Sajida H Khan
They should Plax-ify Twitter and create a premium service to share and update full contact details between followers.
- matt howard
Rick: I thought following already was a multi-level marketing pyramid! You should have seen my son on Sunday when we were on Leo Laporte's show. He told his 2,000 live listeners that they had to follow my son. He got 100 new followers in a couple of minutes.
- Robert Scoble
I think you forgot data mining (which links directly into advertising model, and buzz campaign monitoring). In a nutshell they should have a look at us ;-) (heck, we already do #2 and what I mentionned above!)
- twitscoop
bravestface: there are about 250,000 registered users of friendfeed (it's a guess based on available data).
- Robert Scoble
cant we think SMS as a strong income model?
- Sinan Ata
If you're a company trying sell/advertise via Twitter...I would expect them to pay. That way it doesn't piss off your standard user. The key is charging less than other competing PR firms.
- CannonGod
How about a search engine. Soon there will be so many people and companies on Twitter (and similar sites) that people will want to search for those like they do for web sites. It's already frustrating trying to find people now as the current search is very limited. Add to that a similar model to AdWords that could generate money. Would be interested to see what other people think of this idea!
- Joanna Butler
A variant on #5 - develop tools for professional/advanced use of twitter and charge for that level of service. Search / stats / archival tools.
- Patrick Pushor
Joanna: http://search.twitter.com has tons of places to monetize. I'd pay $5 a month to be listed on top or have a "pro" icon next to my name, for instance.
- Robert Scoble
Chris: there are quite a few that I don't even track. Hi-5, for instance.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: I'm with you on that! Once companies are using Twitter, they'd easily see the benefits of a pro listing. I have several clients who'd at least be willing to experiment that.
- Joanna Butler
The key is for Twitter to charge advertisers and not users. For example, they could make a mint by placing sidebar ads (a la FB) and justifying $ rates relative to the most popular people followed - such as you, @LeoLaporte, @guykawasaki, oh, and 'That One.'
- Jim Mitchem
@jim they would make orders of magnitudes more by selling their software, support of the software and access to their software instead of limiting themselves so badly with conventional advertising.
- alphaxion
If you tell Toyota or Coke that their constituency is online with Twitter and they're following specific people, or trending topics - you know they'd pay through the nose for those precious few seconds. It's push vs. pull.
- Jim Mitchem
@chris - that's cool, just don't snort coke and drive Trish in a Toyota concurrently.
- Jim Mitchem
@chris their software is a product they can sell, the userbase is a compelling feature of that product.. "pay for our commerical API to add twitter support to your product and add the ability of your customers to share their going-ons with the network and stoke demand and interest"...
- alphaxion
Chris: exactly. Done right, who wouldn't pay?
- Joanna Butler
What's the source of the current online culture of entitlement? Users don't want paid subscriptions nor to suffer ads. The same view that powers online piracy. Shouldn't creative professionals and those who fund them be compensated? If not, there will eventually be a big drop in production. Ps- few companies even use internal IM or digital BBS to share institutional knowledge, I don't see enterprise Twitted as being very lucrative.
- Colin Hessel
I pay for reliability and accountability - a free service owes me nothing, they can lose my data overnight, be unavailable whenever, disappear. A service I pay for comes with an SLA, some guarantees, etc. Plus, if you don't pay for it, or donate to it, one day it will be gone and you might feel sorry.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I would pay for additional features = pro account (stability, groups, counter, threads etc in one interface)... but I am just an ordinary user...
- Hanna Wiszniewska
Great ideas Robert. Twitter execs will appreciate it but I still think no business model will exist until they are acquired.
- Jeremy Campbell
from twhirl
yes, i think acquisition was their business model - but the economic crisis did dash hopes of a gold-plated one so they are thinking about value added services now (through the buy-in of sandy it seems "concierge" style message parsing is one option they are looking at. If you can buy, book, plan, coordinate things semi automatically via twitter there is value in there)
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Following on from the discussion re FF UI - this discussion shows a BIG issue - I had to expand 95 comments to see Robert's original 9 (and was that the best way to publish the list?) and now I can't compress them!
- Mark Warren
Mark: if you refresh the page they will be compressed again.
- Robert Scoble
At the very least, show Google Ads on search
- Varun Mahajan
I like the idea of selling aspects of the API as a SaaS. Also think they could very easily start charging consumers for Track and SMS.
- Clay Newton
They would do well to add the ability to do very robust data mining. You can imagine providing a set of business intelligence dashboards to track and analyze customer sentiment as well as real time trend analysis.
- Clay Newton
Virtual goods are a really solid idea as well. Look at what they are doing at Mahalo Answers. Mixes virtual $$ and real $. Twitter could easily implement a number of different levels here. They could also open up the API to provide even greater levels of functionality for app developers, essentially building a tiny-app framework.
- Clay Newton
they should sell market info from mining their data, It's a great source of customer data
- Tony Jones
from twhirl
tony: you then get into the murkey problem of is it their data? By the same standard your ISP could sell their data on your usage. Is it ethical and would your customer base accept it?
- alphaxion
@alphaxion - Advertisers will always be in the mix and are inevitable, they should do just in a way that doesn’t interfere with individual tweets/updates. Unless Twitter has an endless supply of financing, they’ll have to go to outside sources, (like subscribers/advertisers). I don’t see Twitter though offering so much value as to make it worth paying for. Not enough features. (ESPN.com has its insider pay service and still runs a ton of ads on the site, so having one rev. stream doesn’t eliminate another.)
- mtlb
Someone also mentioned a pay service for exclusive/breaking news on Twitter. First, I have Drudge for breaking news, but more importantly, part of the appeal of Twitter is that people like to feel they broke the news themselves. Why should Twitter or a select few decide what's breaking and what’s not and exclude the rest of the users from contributing to that?
- mtlb
I would pay good money for the ability to punch people over the internet.
- stretta
Make people pay to block other users! They'll get rich.
- Rae21
I was reading this long list of comments and then the system did its hiccup/update thing and it all went away and I had to spend time looking for the damn thread again. Freaking annoying!
- Rae21
@twitscoop Twitter data mining (strangely over looked) seems less like a business model then and more like a feature of the social network: transforming the data flow of one's social graph into usable information is why we stick around in the first place. Oh, I guess that does count as a business model.
- Brad Kligerman
I've noticed a couple companies contacting me directly via Twitter when I have made noise about their products. Obviously, people say a lot of things on Twitter about products they use... I agree with Patrick Pushor; "develop tools for professional/advanced use of twitter and charge for that level of service". Twitter should send a rep. to companies to show them how to use Twitter to improve their own products and service, by using Twitter Search to find out what consumers are saying about their products.
- Colleen
I wrote an article about twitter's fundamental problem yesterday. Essentially, all communication networks move toward being free. www.zachlandes.com
- Zach Landes
So, let me get this straight: the fact that on Monday morning I didn't want to come to work and posted as such, then read about Jobs' health and opted to not comment because I have nothing to add to the conversation, this is what makes me and by extension FF dumb?
Seriously? The fact that I had nothing of insight or interest to add to a topic and opted to keep my Trapp shut is what makes me dumb? *shocked*
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Tina: Do you really care... I mean if I have not made several people question my intelligence today I really haven't done my job. And I'm not being flip... I would be really really frightened if everyone's view of "interesting" was the same as mine (or vice versa).
- Brian Roy
Not exactly, Helen. This wasn't said about or to me, it was about FF in general. It's someone that opts to not follow or respond to me but the assertion he has made is that everything on FF at 9:30 this morning had nothing to do with the Jobs' news and that is a prime example in support of the 'FF is dumb' hypothesis posited by yet another person earlier today (or perhaps yesterday). I like FF and apparently am apt to jump to its defense like a rabid dog. A dumb, rabid dog =D
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Who are these people and where exactly do they call you out? I personally have only a finite number of times I can say Whore and Moan together in a year, and didn't want to burn them all in the first week of the month.
- Matthew DeVries
Surely the variety of topics is a sign that smart people are here? And Friendfeed isn't just a discussion tool, it's a information sharing service :)
- Steven Cains
The internet this is SERIOUS BUSINESS. You can't have fun here. You can't talk about LOLcats or your day. Because, you know, they NEVER talk about that on twitter. Twitter is CHOCK full of amazing insight after amazing insight. In fact, we should stop using each other's names all together, it only promotes community and friendly banter.
- Yolanda
Ya'll are sweet, but again this wasn't directed directly at me personally, more at FF and its reactions in general. However, as someone who posts very little tech and social media I figure I'm pretty representative of the 'noise' that's being discussed. I suppose the irony of my name has escaped some people...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Since when has narrowly focusing on a topic that not everyone cares about considered "smart" anyway?
- Victor Ganata
HA! I got you all beat! I didn't even KNOW that Jobs was sick. That makes me King of the Stoopidz.
- Steven Perez
I've obviously missed the boat on this one. But I 'liked' it to represent my vote for lolcats and photomemes. Meaninglessness FTW!
- Jim: Now With Caffeine
I encourage everyone here who is pissed at what I wrote to consider that I'm not actually taking a position on whether or not Gabe Rivera is right: what I'm discussing is the lack of very good arguments to what Gabe Rivera has said about FriendFeed. On Saturday, I wrote about giving others the benefit of the doubt when they do things: in that spirit I wrote about a possible support for...
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- Mark Trapp
Mark, my frustration isn't with you, though it was in this instance brought up again by your post. And I definitely acknowledge that neither you nor Rivera were speaking of me personally. With that said, my frustration is with the assumptions that are being made. The assumption that everyone using social media sees the same items as newsworthy news, that people being personable and...
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- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Didn't someone already figure this out? 99% of EVERYTHING is crap.
- Victor Ganata
You know, if these folks who think FF is dumb got together and followed each other... perhaps they would be happier with FF. Then, they could all sit around talking about only techy things. I'm part of the group of folks that is looking for a fun place to chat and share things.
- Yolanda
This is FriendFeed, not TechFeed or SocialMediaFeed or BloggerFeed. The team could have chosen one of any number of names to convey what they felt was the real intent and *power* of this particular service, and in my single opinion they chose PERFECTLY. FF isn't about being the smartest or loudest or most prolific. It's about the members: the people who participate, getting to know them...
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- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Mark: according to my "best of day" page in friendfeed your theory that the "hate being at work" stuff is the story of the day is NOT true. It's not even on that page at all. Both Steve Jobs and the Twitter stuff are, though. Again, if you are following the wrong people you won't have as good a news page.
- Robert Scoble
That is just ridiculous. I'm not going to spend all day talking about Steve Jobs health. Why? Because it is no ones damn business. Yes, I read the letter, yes I posted a link to it on Twitter, but I didn't go on about for the rest of the day. Hell, me and my boss talked about it for a couple of minutes and then went on for the rest of the day. Idiots.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
To those who think FF is dumb, go jump in a lake. I do read some of the tech things, and I didn't learn about Steve Jobs until later today, because I was in bed for most of the day with a major sinus headache. FF is to me for friends to get together and talk about interesting things, whether it is LOLcats or where Robert Scoble is going for coffee. I love FF and unless there is something else that is better than here, I'm not moving. +1 Tina. :)
- Molly, Time Traveller
I know plenty of highly intelligent people that neither care about Steve Jobs nor anything he could possibly have to say. Steve Jobs is just not a part of their world. I don't own any Apple products, nor do I have any plans on buying any. Why would I care about what someone from a company I have no interest in, has to say about anything? How does that make me less intelligent if I don't?
- April Russo (app103)
Robert: the "best of day" page shows individual posts that get lots of likes and comments, it doesn't show memes, like, aptly, the current "sarcasm picture" meme. Most, if not all, of these sarcasm pictures won't show up on the best of feed, but it doesn't stop them from flooding my view right now.
- Mark Trapp
Unfortunately, until there is the ability for you to hide posts that mention 'meme' and me to hide posts that mention 'iphone' we will both have to rely upon hide to do the dirty work for us.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
*hugs LOLMolly* :D Tina is right, we need a "meme" tag or a memeRoom
- Susan Beebe
mark trapp, good point on meme responses not showing up in the "best of" feature... but back to "TechMeme is utterly worthless to 99.9% of people." Wha??
- edythe
I don't mean to hijack this thread, but thanks Robert Scoble for giving me a +10 I feel honored. :) I also agree there should be a room for Memes or something like that. I love the memes. :)
- Molly, Time Traveller
using friendfeed, you could create an imaginary friend, import all of the feeds you want into that account, and then subscribe to the imaginary friend's feed....voila
- .LAG liked that
@Higlet... true that! the benefit of the imaginary friend approach is that it would be private to the account that created it. a room can be shared, if setup that way.
- .LAG liked that
And this is why Friendfeed is smart. Problem... multiple solutions.
- Louis Gray
LAG, can't remember where I found that. I've been using it on and off to create combined feeds for my site for a couple of years now. If you want to mask that it's a combined feed, run the feed URL it gives you through Feedburner.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Yeah @jandy, thanks for sharing. Bookmarked :)
- Type Micah
Am going to explore those ff options as well because I love friendfeed. xfruits looks interesting, too!
- Type Micah
xfruits is what I used before I came to friendfeed, to combine all my activities into a single feed, for use in a widget on my blog. It had some issues with the way it presented wakoopa entries though, so I was happy to find this site.
- April Russo (app103)
I didn't even check the comments on FF for this. Thanks for the ideas guys
- Tyler (Chacha)
I just signed up. I have been using Twitter but I'm looking for an easier way to follow conversations. Hoping Friendfeed will workout better.
- Kent
A week new. Learning the ropes. Love the data concatenation though (across SM). thanks Jeremiah.
- Jim Mitchem
Is a room for new FF members? That could be nice.
- Amani
I think there is a room that gives a general introduction, and I know there's a room for user profiles (that gets sporadic use at best). But having a thread like this out in the wild for users to ask questions is always a good thing.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
pico, i set up a gaza room a couple of days ago, haven't used it yet.
- ernie yacub
Pretty new, ca 1 month, heard about it a long time ago but never bothered with social networks (eg. twitter and facebook) , registered and got hooked on FF ! :) Not really a question though ...
- Thomas Bøhm
GAZA room is now #gaza which connects with twitter group
- ernie yacub
i am wat you could call a novice to the hole social networking joined up to the so called most ratted still trying to get to grips with it lol
- eric
I am relatively new here and appreciate your reach out..I have found Robert Scoble approachable and have gained my greatest insight from Bill Romanos. This is a very important move on your part to assist newcomers...I have great respect for this offer of assistance to us newbies..
- bcultral
I also have a software that I have designed and I went broke having the prototype built by a firm in southern India. Ephrontech.com I want to change the world and I have been following this Vision for many years, starting in the jungles of Belize. High Tech Retribalization..the architect is a genius IT Solutions guy formally a IT manager at GE...I need direction!!!! Please point me in the right direction..SpokenWord.Tv
- bcultral
Just joined--so why is this better or more useful that other services?
- Parth
Joined a few months ago but never used it....trying to navigate through but love it so far!
- Alison
Just politely chiming in. See, there may be some action happening around these parts.
- Scott M Iseman
I am new to FF, I saw a "post" by Mr. David (Dave) Winer and now I would like to contact him, but I do not know how. I am Pat patrick.omahony@gmail.com. Is this the "
- pomahony2
@Parth-I believe this service allows you to share and discuss in a deep fashion. It also allows you to discover and learn many, many new things. Even by just going to rooms or following people, your world will open up. I think the community and depth of info here separates FF from other sites. @Patrick - if you click on some people who have posted in this thread (including myself) and...
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- Amani
Patrick, go to his feed page, find his Twitter page and contact me that way (well if you're on Twitter).
- Kol Tregaskes
I'm relatively new. Is there a way to shut off a certain person's specific feeds but not others (i.e. I want to see their blog posts but not their Flickr uploads, for example)? I'm assuming they haven't necessarily broken them into separate lists.
- YieldBuild-Jason Menayan
Jason - hide an item, then click "hide other items like this one". You'll get choices about what to hide for a single person or service for everyone.
- Hutch Carpenter
Took me minute to wrap my head around its value--now I'm kinda hooked.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
If only I understood what "doing our best to support you as a community" means
- bcultral
It means we don't know how to welcome you and answer your questions if you don't 1) say hello and 2) ask a question when you have it =)
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
good response...What can I do to introduce a open portal software design that will bring live video social networking to the pc/tv/phone convergence? With tvs being built with a wi-fi chip and white space opening up under new FCC rulings? I have been trying to find a listening ear to this social enterprise...
- bcultral
Thanks for reminding me that I am already subscribed to the profound info source at ScobleizerTv..@bcultral :)
- bcultral
Robin - your question is a bit complex. We must be patient to get a proper answer.
- Amani
I am best friends with patience..I.know her/him well...thanks, I am encouraged...really
- bcultral
As others commented I'm not "new" in ff but I still try to figure out how to best take advantage of it. I am extremely attracted to the all-in-one, rich-media concept. It will be interesting to see how it complements/competes with twitter.
- Maurice Politis
I'm pretty new and I like it, but it's hard to keep up with. Sometimes I worry that I'm intruding on someone's conversation or something like that. I guess that's why it's here, though.
- Amy Boyack
I had FF account for a year but have not used it much until Scoble passionately endorsed it over Twitter. I like the aggregated feature and threaded discussion. I'll use it more often.
- Gee Ekachai
Hi welcome all new comers ... lets keep this thread "bacon free " please , all kidding aside .. if anyone needs help , I'll do my best to help .
- johnpiercy
Hi, I joined both FF and Twitter a few months back and although I've got the Twitter bug but not really 'got' FF yet but I'm kind to play with it and meet people.
- Steve Sponder
I'm relatively new to FF (joined in March, but came back last month) - with Twitter I had people who I knew personally and could grow my network and join conversations; seems a little harder to find followers on FF; maybe it's just me following too many big fish and not knowing smaller groups since my Twitter crowd (mostly storage industry) isn't here
- Stuart Miniman
I am also new to FF. When/if I write a message - how can I see if - IF - anyone has answered it? Thanks.
- pomahony2
If you are new to FriendFeed here is a nice conversation started by @jowyang
- frank barry
I'm new to FF. I'm trying to get the hang of it.
- Romey Louangvilay
Is there any way to find FF users by subject or interest?
- Internet Strategist
Thanks for getting me more involved in both!
- mrkeroppi
You helped already with the video you posted up on Kyte.tv (http://tinyurl.com/7spgrp) - I was a member before and I had tied in all my RSS and various social network feeds, but I didn't really use Friendfeed. Just felt like a knock-off to Google Reader if I'm honest. Now, I know it's a tool not to mess around with. Extremely powerful, easily one of the best ways to get news for myself outside of Google Reader and I will be certain to explore it further once my exams are done.
- Gaurav Patel
Thanks - I would have probably waited on joining FF if not for your video. The idea of cross-SM concatenation is brilliant, even if it's not quite there yet - FF is my SM portal of choice right now.
- Jim Mitchem
Hello :) that's a good video, I actually started coming here more often after seeing it
- Sebastian
you can help by paying attention to the massacre in gaza - people on twitter are, but there is hardly any discussion here - why is that?
- ernie yacub
was just watching it; gave me some new ideas on how to use FF
- Donald Townsend
ernie: I don't comment on it for several reasons. For one it's such a hot botton issue that I know that engaging on that issue will cost me 80 hours and I just don't have the 80 hours to give. Plus, no matter what side I'm on, there will be people on the other side and I still have bruises from the Obama election that are still healing. Finally, it's not something I can do much about. I'd rather focus my energy on things that I can control and have some influence in.
- Robert Scoble
Twitter is a great place to give your opinion without too much risk that you'll get dragged into a long conversation. Friendfeed is a much better place to have a long conversation, which changes the dynamic of what you will find useful to discuss here.
- Robert Scoble
ditto for me as well Robert. first introduced to FF by ed dale, but finally took the leap after your encouragement. am grateful most days!
- Gregg
One more thing: friendfeed is an aggregator, so if you care about Gaza and Israel, I would open a room here on that topic, and start posting tons of stuff to it. If you are blogging about it, I'd make sure your blogs are being aggregated here. Those topics will find people who will engage. It's just that I'm resisting because this is CES week and I don't have the time.
- Robert Scoble
If I accidentally hide something, how do I unhide?
- Rutger Blom
Rutger: if you realize your mistake in time you can just "undo" right there. But, hidden items are at the bottom of the page in a link. Just visit there and click hide again and it will unhide.
- Robert Scoble
@Robert I'm liking your comments here... A room for each side probably will do more...
- Pico Seno
I refer you to my FF post from this morning http://friendfeed.com/e... Like literally I'm picking up 2 followers an hour, and I have no clue why. I just know I haven't suddenly became interesting, important, or influential. I'm the same screw off I've always been.
- Matthew DeVries
Matthew: I'm gaining more than 100 per day here (more than 1,100 since Arrington's intervention with me) and more than 200 a day over on Twitter. These things are gaining steam.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, that's interesting. More new followers in twitter than FF. Have you noticed any changes in that trend?
- Tapio Kulmala
Well yeah, but you say things people care about. People lining up to follow me? In the world view? Come on....
- Matthew DeVries
AND I haven't changed at all since friday.
- Matthew DeVries
Matthew: people have this believe that the one who dies with the most followers wins. It's just a game at this point to collect more followers.
- Robert Scoble
I'm here because I saw your zillion posts on it. I like it!
- Dave Gambrill
Robert: Really? Disappointing really - I'd rather have less than 10 interesting and informative people following me than 5,000 drooling idiots. I see enough of the later crowd on a daily and face-to-face basis to cover the "moron" category of my life.
- Renee Hendricks
poor Robert :) Get some Zzzzzzzzzzzs!
- Susan Beebe
Bullo: that's what I figure it is. But Twitter is growing remarkably quickly now. People are figuring it out and with Mr. Tweet and other directories, you are probably on one of those as an influencer to check out.
- Robert Scoble
Well, I may be playing wrong, but after the first 5 or so I stopped playing the "Courtesy Followback" game and started actually looking at their content and blogs and interests and made an informed decision on following back. Damn near almost followed some kind crazy PETA scientist bomber
- Matthew DeVries
Great initiative, thank you Robert! What I'd like to know is how many people forward their tweets to their friendfeed account.
- Zack Brandit
Zack: I'm following about 6,000 here and a good percentage do. I hope people use friendfeed to aggregate their lives together here totally. We can hide things on the reading side if it gets to be too much.
- Robert Scoble
Question - if you're subscribed to someone on FF, is it relevant to also 'follow' them on Twitter? Seems a bit redundant. No?
- Jim Mitchem
Matthew: I quickly stopped the "courtesy followback" - and I do the same, check their profile, look at their website, etc. If people are offended, so be it. I really don't want to spend time reading about how your last bowel movement was or how cute your cat is.
- Renee Hendricks
Susanne: That could become a horrible Mash-Up tweet as well.
- Matthew DeVries
robert, u don't have to comment, you can like/rt, which you do a lot with other posts as do many of your colleagues, but curiously not about gaza which is immediate and critically important, especially for the people in gaza - they need to know that not everyone in the western world believes the msm propaganda.
- ernie yacub
ernie: as opposed to their propoganda, right? Got it. This is why I stay out of this fight. Who threw the first missles? It wasn't Israel.
- Robert Scoble
Careful Robert. This is a battle you don't want, I don't think. (even though i agree)
- Jim Mitchem
robert, you are wrong, which is why you need to engage in the conversation, or at least read some history - gaza is a prison camp with 1.5 million people cut off from the world, food, fuel, work, money, etc by israel - most are refugees who were driven from their homes by israelis.
- ernie yacub
gaza =/= hamas, who Israel is fighting. Don't want to get bombed, don't stand next to a guy wearing a hamas sticker.
- Matthew DeVries
Seems we're quickly straying WAY away from the original topic - take it elsewhere ernie, sheesh
- Renee Hendricks
well, he asked how to help us noobs - this one wants to pay attention to what's really needed from people like you who have the resources, tools, knowledge and experience to help prevent such atrocities - you were all excited about mumbai, why not gaza?
- ernie yacub
Robert: I recently joined both friendfeed and twitter and with the help of my blackberry I'm becoming horribly addicted. I will admit that you were the first person I followed and I'm glad because I agree with your opinion that it's not about followers, but quality conversation. That said, I'm curious about how rooms work. You have any pointers?
- Chris Brakebill
Robert: In case of an emergency would you call 911 or tweet? ;-)
- Rutger Blom
Going through your video now...very helpful!
- Alison
its getting strange when my mom's 65-year old best friend starts following me on twitter. How many a social media accounts lie dead after 1-2 posts?
- karyn
Parents, grandparents and friends of parents may actually become a problem for many young users of Twitter, as karyn indicates. Might see an increase in private update accounts.
- Ian Holton
from twhirl
I posted a Diary on DailyKos mentioning Twitter and FriendFeed and got comments like "what isTwitter" I gave them Sarah_Palins twitter username and tauted this new means of information exchange. Will be doing a follow up posting later. today.http://www.dailykos.com/story...
- bcultral
Thank you for subscribing to me, I never thought you would!
- Web20Critic
Robert, is TON the measure of user body mass or the weight of their tweets/FF posts? Which leads to the next logical question: how much does a 140 character tweet weigh? The Guardian said 2 years ago that the entire internet weighs at most two ounces (60 grams)! http://www.guardian.co.uk/technol...
- Micah Wittman
best think about friendfeed, still up now without the fourty minute delay that twitter is suffering from.
- Richard A.