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Dave Winer
How about an app that implements the FriendFeed API and nothing more. Simple, manageable, achievable, boring (meaning it might get done). Open projects for things with user interfaces end up in religious battles within nanoseconds, imho.
Unfortunately without a better way to filter the types of content being displayed, the content display would be rather uninteresting, I'd think (or overwhelming). Might be a good place to start, however. - Chris Messina
That was my suggestion as well: http://friendfeed.com/clonefe.... There's already a ui demo that runs on top of the api: http://friendfeed-api.appspot.com/ - Paul Buchheit
I think it's the right way to go. Plus it would incentivize lots of experimentation on UI. Further, I would be more comfortable building on the realtime API (which is very nice btw) if it were open source, more so than when the future of FF was uncertain. - Dave Winer
Now comes the obvious question -- Paul -- would you guys be willing to release your implementation of the API under an Open Source license? That would get things going really fast. Not sure if it makes sense, perhaps the implementation isn't easily separatable. - Dave Winer
We're looking into open sourcing some parts, but I don't think it's possible to open just the api because it's too integrated with everything else at the moment. Maybe after some refactoring it would work -- I'm not sure. - Paul Buchheit
How dependent is that on server infrastructure? - Amit Morson
Somewhat missing the point of why its being talked about in the first place. - Michael W. May
@Paul, I'm excited to hear some things may be open sourced. What license would do you think you guys are likely to use? GPL/LGPL? BSD? Apache? - Jason Huebel
Jason- I'd assume Apache, just because that's what they used with V1 of the API - Jimminy Fuller
The potential of this is very exciting! :) - Susan Beebe from iPhone
Yeah Paul just said that in the comment here: http://friendfeed.com/clonefe... - Roberto Bonini
Once a core API is in place it would be easy enough to have multiple UI projects. Without the API there is nothing. - Eoghann Irving
A client API is a great start, but what we really need is an open source server that emulates the backend of Friend Feed. Then...we can do whatever we want to expand the protocol. - Gary Burge
But there could be multiple back-end implementations. You could have everything from a new, stand-alone Python engine to some sort of weird Ruby system that tries to use Twitter as a datastore to some PHP glue added to Drupal or Wordpress. For a distributed, federated system to truly thrive, IMHO, the group needs to concentrate on how the parts interact, and then teams can break off and build components. - Ken Sheppardson
BTW, I agree with your original thought, Dave. It's hard enough for groups to agree on a common data bus system/format (ala RSS vs Atom), let alone on some collective vision of a GUI. - Ken Sheppardson
In fact, if there were a sort of "stack" of components for implementing FriendFeed-like systems in muliple languages, it might encourage other teams to build compatible systems. You have any sort of architecture diagram you could share, Paul? :-) How bout you and Bret and Benjamin just quit your day jobs and come help out ;-) - Ken Sheppardson
Wave federated protocol.... people can write thier own servers, or even use other WFP clients..... - Roberto Bonini
Now you're thinking like good programmers! Modular programs that interact, independent of underlying language or OS. This stack idea is worth developing, I think. - Kevin L
Roberto, Wave is only a method for communicating changes to objects in real time. It doesn't relieve us from having to define data structures and how they relate to each other. - Kevin L
Kevin: My point is that as long as clients and server agree on the saame protocol, the underlying implementation does not matter. This means that A) Anyone can write thier own server in what ever language they so please using whatever data store they want B) People can write what ever Ui they so please including web and desktop based clients and C) it means that we can interact with other Waves, seeing chages to those waves IN REAL TIME as part of our FF stream. - Roberto Bonini
Sure, building a federated social network on top of Wave is a pretty slick project, and Google's going to be pushing that effort, I would think. The only problem is there are currently no public projects that support Wave, let alone FriendFeed. Trying to "clone" FriendFeed starting with a Wave engine confuses me. - Ken Sheppardson
Wave isn't ready yet but the tools are there: threaded conversations, multiple participants, real-time, public waves (though I don't know if they will retain that for the final version), bots to integrate with servers. So all your conversations would be centralized in Wave, but you would go to a site like ff for 'discovery'. - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Yeah - exactly ahsan - Roberto Bonini
I agree. The API is the place to start. I also like the stacks idea. If we are trying for a federated, distributed system, going as modular as possible with as much encapsulation as possible is the best route because it will give users the most possible control of their own installs. I don't know about Wave as the way to go, but I can't back that opinion up as much as I would like as I haven't worked with it too much yet; it just seems half-finished and up in the air. - Neal Jansons
Mona Nomura
HAHAHAHA - Johnny Worthington
You guys, this image is SO huge! HAHA - Mona Nomura
Lol - Farzad
Ignore! :D - MissSaghar
ترابلشوتینگ: to solve your problem you must shut down your computer and fuck yourself immedately! - M∂hmood
eAHAoeuhAEOUAEhoaehoueaH - MustaBR
رافائل هنگ کرد! :)))))))))))))) - M∂hmood
Like for saghar :D viva MicroSoft :D :D - Farzad
They have those on Gilligan's Island. - Trish R
amazing - Marcos Vicente
This is one of my new favorites. - Kevin Bondelli
i wonder what mona is like at a flea market - she probably finds the rare gems! - Allen Stern
Too bad there isn't a StumbleUpon for flea markets. - Kevin Bondelli
Allen: Will work for free food! ;) - Mona Nomura
I want to randomly deploy this into a piece of software as an easter egg. - Kevin Bondelli
aaaahhhh, windows.... hahahahha - Melissa Maskevich
I made a Mac error pop-up to keep this one company. http://friendfeed.com/e... - Kevin Bondelli
This *still* makes me laugh out loud lollll!! - Mona Nomura
wow september? nice to see this again hehe - Alfredo
As Carlos said, I am "crate digging" . . . my feed used to be so visual. I am finding ALL sorts of posts. - Mona Nomura from IM
Oh shit that's funny! - BEX
just laughed at this one again :) - (jeff)isageek
Fly, little butterfly, Fly! - Martha
oh this must be at least thirty-seven years old. but still funny! - Kirill Bolgarov
It can't be THAT old; it's done in XP look-and-feel... - Karl Knechtel
Love it! - Marcos Vicente
nice! I've never seen this one before. - Phil Maxwell
- the f word - Monique
Karl, that was a joke - Kirill Bolgarov
XA x333 - Dobromir Hadzhiev
Had me LOL ... Literally. - Charlie Anzman
DeWitt Clinton
Astronomers take virtual plunge into black hole - CNN.com - http://edition.cnn.com/2009...
Astronomers take virtual plunge into black hole - CNN.com
"A computer simulation illustrates what it would be like to fall into a black hole. Narrated by Andrew Hamilton." - DeWitt Clinton from Bookmarklet
Robert Scoble
Robert is having a fun weekend with family celebrating my 44th birthday on Sunday. Thanks to everyone for the kind wishes!
Happy Birthday Robert! - Dave Gambrill
Hey, we continue to celebrate a week apart. My son Doug beat you to 44 in December. I achieve 70 week from Sunday. Enjoying myself over that. - Dennis E. Hamilton from twhirl
Tomorrow's your b-day? Happy birthday, Robert! - Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Happy Birthday Robert! Maybe I should create a FriendFeed room for this? ;) - Michael Broukhim
Happy Birthday!! Does this mean you're taking the day off? - Devlin Dunsmore from twhirl
Happy B-day Robert! - Helen Sventitsky
Have a great birthday weekend! Hope it's geeky and fun! :) - Daynah
have a good one!!! - Richard Binhammer
no s#*t ... not only is my birthday the day after yours, I'll also be 44. Happy Birthday! - Jim in Real Time
Happy Birthday, Robert! I hope you and your family have a great weekend! :-) - Anna Haro
Happy birthday, Robert! Have a great one! :) - Dee S.
Good times! Enjoy! - Josh Haley
Happy Birthday and here's to many more (lifts martini)! - Susan Dennis
Just turned 44 myself! Happy Bday. - BEX
Happy Birthday !!! - Nir Ben Yona
~~~ HAPPY 44TH BIRTHDAY ROBERT !!! I hope you have a really fun birthday and get lots of cool new toys!! :D - Susan Beebe
Best wishes on the day! Looks like its gonna be a very decent day in HMB tomorrow! :-) - Bo Stern
Happy Birthday, Robert!! - David Cook
Ahh...what to do? Robert said there was no need to wish him a happy b'day, but I do this for others; why should I exclude him? and everyone else is doing it...I know; happy Scoble's birthday, fellow FriendFeeders! - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Happy Birthday, Robert!! Hope you enjoy your day and weekend. :) - Fa La La La Lindsay
Happy birthday. - Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Happy 44th ... hey we almost have the same birthday :) - Robert Couture
Happy Birthday! have fun with the family...that's what it's all about. - Troy Malone
Wow you're 44?! Time is damn good to you!! Happy Birthday and stay unplugged before Maryam drags you to a place with no cell service! ;) - Mona Nomura
Happy Impending Birthday! - deusdiabolus
Already 44? Happy Birthday and wish you a webfull of 44th year ;) - Ozkan Altuner
Happy pre-Birthday, Robert. I wish you many, many more. :-) - Mathew A. Koeneker
Happy Birthday, Robert! So glad you're having fun with your family. Cheers! - Cathryn Hrudicka
Excellent! Happy Birthday Robert. It's already Sunday here :) - Ange Recchia/angesbiz
Happy Birthday Robert! - Holger Eilhard
Happy birthday - Duncan Riley
Happy Birthday ^__^ - Nia
Happy Birthday - Charlie Anzman
Scobleizer, Happy Birthday! - Mike Fruchter
Many Happy Returns and blessings to you Robert! - Melanie Reed
Happy Birthday Robert. Hope the coming year is a great one. - jjprojects
Happy Birthday - Sharron Field from twhirl
Happy Birthday - Kyle
I thought you were 34, have a great day! - paul mooney
Happy Bornday - rokhayakebe
Happy Birthday! If you were in Atlanta it would have been a snowy (predicted) birthday, not to mention a kewl place to celebrate in, home to Coca-Cola, CDC, Lockheed Martin and our very own Ted Turner's creation CNN. :-) [edited] - Moushumi Kabir
Happy 44 !!! - Rocky
Happy birthday! - Morton Fox
May I say Best Wishes on your Day... - bcultral
Happy Birthday, Robert! - Heidi Jeffers Thibodeau
Happy birthday! - Naser Farzinfar
Happy Birthday! - mandyvan
Happy Birthday - Leslie Poston
Happy Bday Robert! - Kelly Johns
Happy B-Day!! - Jeff P. Henderson
happy birthday I am offering you a like as present :) - Loic Le Meur from twhirl
happy bday!! - ::Kristen::
Have a Happy!!! - Seth Greenblatt
Have the best birthday ever! - jcunwired
happy bday - Zafarali
Happy Birthday Robert, Have a Great Weekend! - Michael Fidler
Happy birthday old man!™ - Larry Kless
Happy Birthday, Robert! Have a great day. - Andrew Terry
happy bday! - Zafarali
S dnem Rozhdeniya! (happy b-day!) - Olga Rasulova
Happy birthday! - Darren Heydon
Happy Birthday! - Pankaj from twhirl
You're 44? Herzlichen Glückwunsch Robert! - Gaby K. Slezák
A happy Birthday to you from old Europe - Donald Townsend
Congrats to your 44th! You look much younger though! :-) - Alex
Congrats! - Alan Kodzasov
Happy birthday :) - Carolyn Chan
happy bday! - Zafarali
Happy Birthday! - Ladybug Heather
Happy Birthday. Great seeing you in Las Vegas. - Steve Garfield from twhirl
Happy Birthday! - Didi Chanoch
Happy Birthday Robert! - Nicholas James
Cumpleaños Feliz! - Steven Livingstone-Pérez
Happy Birthday! (isn't it Prager's as well) - Marcus Beagley
Happy birthday, Robert! - Thierry R. Andriamirado
Happy birthday! Thanks for being the real first adopter and showing the rest of us new ways and places to explore. - Heather
Happy birthday Robert! Keep up the good work your'e doing! - Marc van Waardenburg
Happy birthday! - Robert Banghart
Happy Birthday Robert!!! The Queen sends her birthday wishes too :) London, United Kingdom - Justin Stevens
Happy Birthday Robert (Man, you're just a kid ! :) - Charlie Anzman
happy birthday - Travis Parsons
Happy birthday! • From Moscow, Russia - Alexey Ivanov
Happy birthday Pal!!!! - Thomas Hawk
Happy birthday. - Svartling
Happy birthday Robert! - Martin Bryant
Happy birthday, dude! - Michael VanDervort
Happy birthday, dear Robert! Happy birthday to you! :) - Lora Lufark
Many happy returns. - Mike Lewis
Happy B-Day, Robert. - Michael R. Bernstein
Happy Birthday, Robert! - ravi karandeekar
Happy Birthday from the island of Montreal! - Michael Forian
Happy Birthday to you. - Marcel Janus
Happy Birthday Robert! Enjoy your day! - Laura Zickus
Wait. I thought you were 10 years older than me. Then I realized you were 10 years younger!! Now I find out you're my age? I am suddenly hopeful! Yes we 44yr- olds can! .......Hey Robert, seriously, I wish you another 56 healthy years. Happy Birthday! ♫ - Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
Happy Birthday, Robert!!!! :) - Molly, New Ears :P
Happy Birthday Robert. - Daniel Rowley
Happy Birthday! - clp
Wishing you a great one Robert. Thanks for all you do for the Internet. I loved your interview with Seth Godin, you 2 were great together. - Jeremy Campbell from twhirl
@Jeremy Campbell - do you have a link to that interview? - Peter Warnock
Happy Birthday! Hooray for 1965! (My birthday is still a few weeks away, in March.) - vicster is...
Scobleizer, time to CELEBRATE-You have so much ahead of you, b/c what's behind you was great!! Thanks for all the great insight!! - Harold Cabezas
Happy birthday Robert! - Andrew
Happy Birthday Robert! - Parth Awasthi
Happy B1rthday Rob3rt - iSteeve
Happy Christmas Robert! (Didnt wanna say the same thing as everyone else) :) - Simon Wicks
happy bday robert - MG Siegler
Happy Bday!! - Sarah Perez
Happy Birthday! Have a wonderful year until the next :) - Pilgrim Five
Robert Scoble
Cool GiiNii digital picture frame - http://www.giinii.com
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oooh thats sweet - drew olanoff
What mobile phone do you use now Robert? - Qbat
Is that a photo of the collage one they sell? http://www.giinii.com/dpf_det... I am so glad these have come down in price. A lot of family got these for each other for Christmas this year. Great stuff. Issue for me is the ease of use for Grandparents. They need a way to put photos into these that is so incredibly simple your dog could do it. ie... If I email the grandparents some photos, they can just drag and drop them to the card that plugs into this... or drag and drop the photos from Flickr. - Colleen
Colleen, what about a wifi frame? They can automatically get the latest 20 photos from Flickr, or the latest 360 photos from the photo-sharing site I made, OurDoings. - Bruce Lewis
DeWitt Clinton
Writing I-Ds and RFCs using XML - http://xml.resource.org/public...
"This memo presents a technique for using XML (Extensible Markup Language) as a source format for documents in the Internet-Drafts (I-Ds) and Request for Comments (RFC) series." - DeWitt Clinton
David Recordon
“Results of the OpenID Foundation's community board election are now posted! http://tinyurl.com/74zut8” - http://friendfeed.com/e...
sofiagk
Guardian get it wrong finishing their article (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media...) with "Help the man out by posting your suggestions below". It should read "Help the man out by posting your suggestions to him on Twitter http://twitter.com/Wossy..."
Mike Fruchter
Alexandros Georgiadis
How Social Are You? | Popularity impact metrics derived from social networking & blogging | Howsocial.ru - http://howsocial.ru/index.php
How Social Are You? | Popularity impact metrics derived from social networking & blogging | Howsocial.ru
After a loong Athens Startup Weekend, this is what we have to show for it. Thanks, organizers! Congrats, @nikan and team! Great work, everyone! #asw - Alexandros Georgiadis from Bookmarklet
@ageor Thanks. Congrats to your team too - Nikos Anagnostou
Thanks @nikan - Alexandros Georgiadis
.ru feels misleading to me, why is it preferable to howsocialru.com? - okyrhoe
It's a matter of taste, @okyrhoe. The smaller the better - Alexandros Georgiadis
This sounds great. Can't wait to see where you guys will take it. - sofiagk
Tim O'Reilly
RT @judell: Q: What's the diff between Citi and the Somali pirates? A: The pirates are realistic about the value of cargo in the hold
Another Diff btwn Citi and Somali Pirates? The pirate's victims *know* they've been ripped off. - Kevin Bedell
Robert Scoble
Zoetrope: New Web Crawler Allows For Searching, Analyzing The Ever-Changing Web - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Steve Garfield
Sebastian Küpers
Comment-Aggregation with OpenID and Two-Way-Discovery - http://pixelsebi.com/2008-11...
"I blogged about my thoughts to have a more holistic solution approach to solve the comment-aggregation issue based on OpenID. Would love to get your feedback on my thoughts! - You (edit | delete)" - Sebastian Küpers
i run openid.org - always interested in potential applications and i like this - ben thinking about openid and commenting for a while. - Steven Livingstone-Pérez from twhirl
DeWitt Clinton
Hoover’s Opens API With Data on Millions of Companies and Executives - http://blog.programmableweb.com/2008...
Hoover’s Opens API With Data on Millions of Companies and Executives
"Hoover’s, the business information company, has released their own Hoover’s API, aka “HAPI”. This new API enables developers to create applications that utilize Hoover’s database of 27 million companies and 34 million business executives (details at our Hoover’s API profile)." -Kevin Farnham at Programmable Web - DeWitt Clinton from Bookmarklet
This is really cool - Hoover's has fantastic data. Several years ago I made a few mashups by hand using Hoover's data, and this API would have helped considerably. (See http://blog.unto.net/breakdo... and http://blog.unto.net/breakdo...) - DeWitt Clinton
Anyway to compare the executive layer size and cost between US and Japanese auto companies? Cool graphics can really bring that home. - Todd Hoff
Someone could try mashing that data up with the visualization API at http://code.google.com/apis.... - DeWitt Clinton
That is AWESOME. - EricaJoy
Good idea DeWitt. - Todd Hoff
How about oututting this in PortableContacts form? - Kevin Marks from twhirl
All I can say is, wow. Now, someone do the same for historical SEC 10-Q timeseries please. - Ray Cromwell
Jess Lee
Why you should always look over your kids homework. - Blogiversity.org - http://www.blogiversity.org/forums...
Why you should always look over your kids homework. - Blogiversity.org
"The child was drawing a picture about what his mother does for a living. The mother works at Home Depot and the picture depicts the mother selling a shovel." - Jess Lee from Bookmarklet
What could it be other than a shovel? Keep your baby off the pole. :) - Seth Gottlieb
That's so funny! Get your mind out of the gutter. It's a shovel. - John-David Lusan
That just made my morning... - Katie is Frittering
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight... - JA Castillo
Tim O'Reilly
RT @aral: Amazon Web Services Hosted Public Data Sets the future of open data? APIs on steroids. http://aws.amazon.com/publicd...
APIs on steroids LOL! - Mona Nomura
Live4Emma (L4S)
Fast Company
Werner Vogels
Fa La La La Lindsay
Coming Soon to my desk. (Thanks, Rah, for that link). - Fa La La La Lindsay from Bookmarklet
[love] Fun! - Carmen - Happy 2010!
Time And Relative Dimensions In Space - TARDIS - Phil G
Oooh the TARDIS!!!! - Molly, New Ears :P
OMG LOVE!! - Mona Nomura
It's a toss up between Strongbad and Hellboy! - Katie is Frittering
That Hellboy one is swank. - tinypants - Hagitha of FF
This will cost me time... Thanks! - Ruud van Wijngaarden
Mike Coulter
Mike Coulter
http://twitpic.com/mbgw - @fraseredwards, I piss you not, I'm sat with @vodafoneliveguy right now. But he'll be off soon...
http://twitpic.com/mbgw - @fraseredwards, I piss you not, I'm sat with @vodafoneliveguy right now. But he'll be off soon...
Louis Gray
An unfortunate pairing of headlines from Reuters...
Picture 2.jpg
Whoops. - cecily
I'm wondering how you got the graphic in your FF post. I'm a newby and want to be able to do that trick. - B2B Specialist
Chris, at the top it says "Post". One of the options is photos, which works for any graphic on your computer. I had taken a quick screenshot to the desktop and grabbed it. - Louis Gray
Zee.
Treadmill Handstand Attempt - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Treadmill Handstand Attempt
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i was feeling a little shitty this morning, then i watched this... - Zee.
Stupid people...what would the world be without them... :) - Zee.
Oh geez...moron...LOL! - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
complete moron, you're right...but SO glad he did it...made my morning :) - Zee.
That is just....there are no words for that... - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
if you guys haven't seen this yet - it really is worth a watch for the evil laugh you'll do afterwards... - Zee.
I hope large quantities of alcohol and/or drugs contributed to this. Otherwise...BWHAHAHAHAHAHA - Admiral Anika
i love it..what was he thinking would happen?? - Zee.
what a turd! LOL hahahahahah - AJ Batac
LOL, thanks Zee... that is great... you can always count on stupid people videotaping themselves doing stupid stuff :D - Juan Pablo González
SRSLY: What the fudge did they think was going to happen?! Haha fail - Simon Wicks
Which came first? The doing stupid things or the banging of the head? Now it's an endless cycle. - Josh Haley
"Yes, and I think I'll start at the very end of the treadmill" - Christopher Galtenberg
lol Christopher :) - Zee.
BUT ... how long until we see the first successful attempt? I see many casualties but on the web someone saw this and said "I bet *I* can do that". - Steven Livingstone-Pérez from twhirl
lol - maybe weblivz...I just reckon this was election night and he was a lil 'Obama happy', someone said he couldn't do it and he said... - Zee.
Alex Scoble
4,300-year-old pyramid discovered in Egypt - Yahoo! News - http://news.yahoo.com/s...
4,300-year-old pyramid discovered in Egypt - Yahoo! News
Marc Andreessen
Today, roughly one-third of our GDP growth is attributable to about 1,000 high-growth firms created every year. - http://www.cnn.com/2008...
He's missing one of the more crucial problems though: foreign entrepreneurs have a very tough time acquire a visa that will allow them to start a company: pretty nearly the O-1 is the only visa that will allow this, and that keeps out almost everyone. - Danielle Fong
Muhammad Saleem
I have great admiration for the person @digg, @kevinrose, that did this: http://www.hyperevo.com/new%20s... muchos geek kudos.
That is some geeky coolness hidden in the code of Digg. - Robert Scoble
That's some pretty leet geeking right there. - Will Higgins™
John McCrea
Google Becomes OpenID Provider; Plaxo Among First Live Sites - http://therealmccrea.com/2008...
I helped on this. There are some cool federated login features in the pipeline. - Steve Weis
Kevin Marks
Google exploring OpenID user experience and connecting to PortableContacts and OpenSocial REST http://google-code-updates.blogspot.com/2008...
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