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Hi there. We'd love to get Posterous added to Friendfeed. I know that it's just as easy to add an RSS feed, but you've added support for Tumblr, Skyrock, Livejournal and other blog platforms too. Not asking for special treatment. We're gonna do autopost integration on our end too, though. (coming soon) -Garry, cofounder, posterous.com
Jeremy Maddux, Antoine Bertier, Waldemar Schott and 69 other people liked this
I would love for FriendFeed to add Posterous.
- Lori Todd
There's a lot of good stuff that people are sending to Posterous - users include Mike Arrington and Guy Kawasaki. Surprised there's not support for it yet.
- Sachin Agarwal
Posterous support would be appreciated.
- Jeff Benner
Bring it.
- Judd6149
Yes, posterous support would be great. Love posterous!
- Hendro Wijaya
Yes please. Posterous would be a great addition.
- Bwana ☠
Posterous is awesome. Please add the support to the amazing Friendfeed
- Christopher Young
Posterous really works and has the potential to be a universal tool. Adding Friendfeed would be helpful - Gerrit Visser (gervis)
- Gerrit Visser
[Posterous much better then tumblr
- Webferret
This would be good
- Edward Ross
Agree. No reason for Posterous to miss out on this. Share the love FriendFeed - share the love!
- Dan Biddle
It would be fantastic to add Posterous to Friendfeed
- Mike Kellock
Yes, adding Posterous would be great!
- Allan Besselink
One more vote for Posterous to be added!
- Bem
+1 - Posterous is pretty awesome.
- Tony Wright
Posterous outpaces Skyrock on unique visitors, not to mention the trendline.
- Jeff Vyduna
It would definitely be nice to have Posterous added
- Justin Thiele
Another +1 for Posterous support.
- Big M Knows
+1
- Sam Odio
+1, love posterous!
- Gabriele
If Tumblr's in there, Posterous should be too.
- Ryan
I love you, Garry Tan! Posterous FTW!
- teh Dork Knight aka Kenny
+1 for posterous!
- webteam
That'd be great, yes.
- Rubin Sfadj
FriendFeed cannot avoid to support Posterous.com... What are your waiting for ?
- Renato Gabriele Ucci
+1 Posterous deserves this!
- Erinç Mullaoğlu
Yes please.
- Kol Tregaskes
Yes, please add!
- Vik Duggal
Garry: From a user perspective, Posterous is really slick. All the best to you guys.
- Nick in Manila
*bump* -- I have just imported a posterous of mine as custom atom/rss, but the resulting FF entry kinda sucks. Please add Posterous as a supported service!
- alieb
Definitely!
- Michael Fidler
+1
- Opensource Obscure
+1
- Daniel Ooi
+1
- Alberto Sánchez Pimienta
+2 Go Posterous!
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
count me for extra point for guruvan :-)
- NaHi
from f2p
+1 - would be a useful addition.
- Andy C
Still not added? Wow.
- Bwana ☠
*bump*
- alieb
Yes. Please add it.
- Rebeca
Yup, posterous rocks. Please add!
- Scott Magdalein
from iPhone
Another vote Posterous.
- Tal Shafik
Yes please, John Cleese
- Scott Gould
Yes please.
- Jeremy Maddux
Yes, please!
- ravi karandeekar
How To Overhype Your Search Engine - http://searchengineland.com/overhyp...
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"As for Wolfram Alpha, it might be amazing when it comes out (Tim O’Reilly tells me I’ll be impressed, and I count his opinion pretty highly). But if so, it will go against the odds. So far, it just keeps tossing up the red flags on my list that lead to disappointment."
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
Not sure that I agree with #4.
- Cristo
Why is Wolfram Alpha even being considered as a search engine? Just to get attention, or because people can't grasp a new concept? It's basically a natural language calculator. Sure, it would be nice as a onebox fronting a search engine so you can type your expressions in the same place you type your web searches, but it's a totally different thing. It doesn't even make sense to evaluate it against normal web search queries.
- ⓞnor
Sullivan's #3 isn't even true here -- nobody is calling this "the next Google". Even Lenat the uberhypemaster compares it to Google only to point out how it occupies a very different space. And why would you brief Danny Sullivan for something that isn't a search engine?
- ⓞnor
ⓞnor - I agree. I feel like Danny (whom I respect considerably) had an outline of this post burning in the back of his head for a while from all the other over-hyped search engines of recent years, and the Wolfram Alpha launch just pushed him over the top to write it, even though it didn't apply here. I say this because no one, especially not Wolfram, is saying this is a search engine (of the general sort).
- DeWitt Clinton
I respect Danny as really knowledgeable, but him (and others) not being briefed becomes one of the top 5 reasons it's overhyped? Seems presumptuous, no?
- Aaron D'Souza
Chris White: For #4 (big name irrelevant to search), see also Bill Clinton and... dang, what was their name? That's right: Accoona. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id...
- Matt Cutts
Why did it become "overhype" instead of "hype", anyway? Did we decide a little exaggeration is appropriate?
- Jutta Degener
Jutta, it comes from writer's subconscious feeling that s/he has to hype own words in order to wake up readers' interest. Perhaps if the process of publishing it wasn't so effortlessly immediate, so easy it becomes mundane?
- ianf ⌘
"Overhype" is an understatement for someone who writes: "This book is the culmination of nearly twenty years of work that I have done to develop that new kind of science. I had never expected it would take anything like as long, but I have discovered vastly more than I ever thought possible, and in fact what I have done now touches almost every existing area of science, and quite a bit...
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- Ionut
Matt, the first thing that came to mind when I read #4 (big name investors not related to search) was Andy Bechtolstein's investment in Google.
- Cristo
i couldn't get past #1 - Wolfram didn't kiss the ring, so he's going to get his panties all in a bunch? Please... Wolfram|Alpha is for academics/researchers and they probably don't want the input of "those who regularly cover search" just yet, or maybe they could care less about pleasing the 'bloggers' and 'reporters' and more about pleasing the end users (academics and researchers) ...
- Chris Heath
Chris, Aaron, I pointed out that not contacting me could be me being big headed or sour grapes. If you feel it's all that they haven't "kissed the ring" as Chris put it, fair enough. But this just isn't for Wolfram Alpha. It's for any general search engine that's trying to come into the space and compete against Google. And the pattern is that this isn’t a good sign.
- dannysullivan
Understood, this isn’t a Google rival. Except it’s a new paradigm they tell us directly, our “default browser” one review said & “could be as important as Google” said another. So yeah, people are going to compare it to a search engine. And if it’s not, then they need to set expectations. Unless they’re not worried about that.
- dannysullivan
Matt, Bill Clinton and Accoona is a perfect example of the type of "big backer, nothing to do with search" thing I've seen. Jutta, yeah, "overhype" is probably unnecessary. Perhaps me trying to talk about hype above and beyond the usual commonplace hype. And thanks for the comments, everyone.
- dannysullivan
Danny, you do great work, don't get me wrong on that, but i had a hard time getting interested in that post because up front you do mention that it might be sour grapes, but then go on to say that in order for Wolfram to get ahead they've got to come to you. Hey, I want them to give me a look at it too, and i'm a nobody - you're freakin' searchengineland.com! - anyways I look forward to your review of it when you do eventually get a chance to check it out. -- until then we're basically speculating, right?
- Chris Heath
Chris, the way I read Danny's point is that if a search engine doesn't even know the influencers in the search space or ignores them, they're missing a vital chance to educate someone that could assess an engine and provide perspective. I've seen several generations of "Google Killer" hype, and Danny's article resonated with me.
- Matt Cutts
Thanks for the perspective Matt, I get that point, just couldn't make it thru the post far enough to get to it, I guess. I have a feeling that Danny might still get a look at Alpha before the general public though.
- Chris Heath
Stephen never called this a search engine and it isn't one. It's a knowledge engine because it gives you an answer. And with all due apologies Wolfram and Mathematica were significant before Google even existed and it's not like Stephen needs any validation for his work. Will wolfram alpha be any good? Don't know. But wolframs validation will come from a different community, not the search engine world
- Deepak Singh
Deepak, that's kind of what i was getting at with my first comment about how they're probably more interested in feedback from researchers and academics, than search engine people.
- Chris Heath
Chris, missed that on my phone. Quite right
- Deepak Singh
Chris, totally understand my first point my be offputting. I don't mean they have to come to me. I mean if you launch a new search service, I expect someone who regularly covers search to know about it (me, others, someone!). But that alone isn't a killer thing. It's just one of several signals that can tell me if a service may have problems with adoption.
- dannysullivan
Deepak, it's a common tactic for a new search engine challenger to say they aren't a search engine but a "knowledge engine" or "answer engine" etc etc. Classic tactic used again and again. But even if Wolfram isn't overtly trying that approach, they ARE being compared to Google. And respect to Wolfram, if they don't control that expectation, no matter how good they are to the scientific community, they may end up with a reputation of "failing" to beat Google.
- dannysullivan
But a reputation among whom, Mr. Sullivan? I am a scientist, and I don't follow any blogs/people who write about google or search or any of that(I do follow Deepak), and I'm quite comfortable waiting until I can form my own opinion about it.
- Mr. Gunn
I'll form my own opinion when I see it, too. I've said repeatedly "we'll see." But in the postscript to my article, you'll see some claims from Wolfram this is aimed at "average" people too. The reputation among those average people will probably be how does this measure up against the utility of Google.
- dannysullivan
"It’s not that I have to be briefed — it’s more that if I don’t see anyone who regularly covers search talking about a service, that’s usually not a good sign." - What?! That's ridiculous. Bigheadedness aside, a sure sign to hype is to get a lot of people "in the know" talking about you. They are doing what they should do-- quietly focusing on being worth talking about (and hoping they are right).
- Tony Wright
Danny, and another thought - wolfram might not care about adoption as long as it's useful.
- Chris Heath
Danny, but Wolfram Alpha will never have the general utility of Google. Since it can only answer a question that can be represented as formal knowledge, what it can give you is unique, but you can never find out what someone's opinion is. It's not based on links, it's not based on what's popular and what someone thinks. By definition it's a knowledge engine. I am not sure it's going to work (I am cautiously optimistic) cause the fundamental problem is very hard (and it's not a natural language engine)
- Deepak Singh
Also, Stephen Wolfram is a wealthy man, so it's not like this is a startup that needs to make a ton of money to be successful.
- Deepak Singh
Interesting comments on Wolfram Alpha by Twitter user fredericl here: https://twitter.com/fredericl For instance: "don't think alpha will be a google killer - rather a wikipedia killer for vast majority of topics on wikipedia"
- Sean McBride
Tony, they have plenty of people talking about them. Started back with the first review that came out, and then there have been a series of other ones. Those weren't quiet. Those people were deliberately briefed to spread the word. None of the reviews have been from people who regularly cover consumer search to a wide audience. Those closest we've gotten was Read Write Web getting a preview tonight.
- dannysullivan
Deepak, even if he weren't wealthy, it doesn't mean his or any search engine needs to make a lot of money to be successful. Success is however you want to define it. A small service with a small audience is still successful by my terms. But if the stated goal is this is something the average searcher will turn to, then I'd expect they're hoping it will get substantial traffic.
- dannysullivan
Sean, yes, more people who have seen it are pushing this is more likely to be a Wikipedia challenge than a Google challenge. That's still a Wolfram Alpha challenge, though -- Wikipedia I believe still gets most of its traffic from Google. Interesting to see if Wolfram ends up with static pages that can be spidered and listed in Google.
- dannysullivan
agree in particular with 2 (using a biased sample of queries), 3 and 4 (if combined, e.g. if Ophrah says you are the next thing) and partially 5 (probably a shorttime effect), but 1 I don't quite get.
- Amund Tveit
/article /author Frederic Lardinois /title Wolfram|Alpha: Our First Impressions /publication ReadWriteWeb /date 20090425 /url http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive... #nml
- Sean McBride
Funny, this article appearing just at the time that I launched the beta of my little search engine http://lenzcape.com . Well, launching is a big word for a few blog posts from a developer. I guess I should do a self-assessment using Danny's points...
- Rintcius Blok
Twitter: Don’t blame Ruby, blame Scoble - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
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This is total bullshit. Why do I have 11,556 subscribers on FriendFeed, I'm FAR FAR FAR FAR more active on FriendFeed, and yet FriendFeed never has gone down on me? Also, Twitter went down at its first SXSW before I had a ton of followers there. Twitter has major problems, they still don't have a good engineering answer, and so they are blaming their most popular users. Great. We get the message. We'll go someplace where there's a good engineering team. You know, the guys who invented Gmail and Google Maps? They are the ones behind FriendFeed. See ya Twitter!
- Robert Scoble
Did you even read the dev post on Twitter by Alex Payne? He said that they have major architectural hurdles to get over. The reason FriendFeed works so much better than Twitter is because it was built from the beginning to do so. Twitter needs to rebuild after having already built an amazing and large community. I just don't get the venom and hate. :(
- Nathaniel Payne
And again, Robert: Twitter didn't say one word about you. If they have, show me where. You're reading someone's headline, getting angry, and making a technical statement into something personal.
- Ian Betteridge
Robert, you are to blame. If you did not hype twitter originally, then maybe we wouldn't have been there. Then you couldn't start conversations that people talked about on twitter. In reality, the "power user" problem talks more to their issues with the back end than anything else.
- Rob Diana
Ian: they don't need to name me. I'm one of the most noisy users on Twitter and have one of the largest following and follower bases. They were talking very specifically about me and Venture Beat decided to have some fun. The whole thing is bull. They got $15 million in venture. The time for blame is long gone. They need to fix their problems.
- Robert Scoble
@Ian Actually it was an indirect mention -- this is the quote from Twitter dev. Alex Payne: "The events that hit our system the hardest are generally when “popular” users - that is, users with large numbers of followers and people they’re following - perform a number of actions in rapid succession. This usually results in a number of big queries that pile up in our database(s). Not running scripts to follow thousands of users at a time would be a help, but that’s behavior we have to limit on our side."
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Go Robert!
- Mitchell Tsai
Robert: Yes, I know, I posted that for you below :) And that doesn't say they're blaming the users. It's saying "This is what happens". Read the comment in context (http://dev.twitter.com/2008...) and it's clear they're NOT blaming users for their architectural weaknesses. They describe it, openly, as "a square peg in a round hole". That's not blaming the users, is it?
- Ian Betteridge
But to be fair, yes, Twitter has also acknowledged the fact that it was never built to get this big (from scratch)
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Sprague, they are doing everything they can to take the focus off their own mistakes. They are clearly clueless to what's going on. If they weren't clueless, these problems would have been fixed months ago. Even if this isn't a direct snipe at Scoble, it's pointing the finger at their own community, which includes you, me and most of the people reading this. And it's not right.
- Andrew Dobrow
Sprague: they should just fix their damn problems and stop blaming anyone. I would never never have blamed anyone for my problems. FastCompany is seeing scaling issues. We're not blaming our users, we're rebuilding our database servers, putting them on new hosting, etc, etc until we fix the problem. And if there's a problem we can't fix, we won't blame one set of users. We'll say "we didn't plan properly, or design properly, and we are seeing loads that are much higher than we can deal with, so wht we doing
- Robert Scoble
From Dev/Twitter: "Twitter started as a one-day project to explore sharing status via SMS that rapidly took on a life of its own. That Twitter would eventually evolve into a messaging system in its own right wasn't conceptualized from the get-go." - "We interview constantly and have a talented recruiter bringing us exceptional candidates daily...We're currently exploring supplementing...
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- Mitchell Tsai
Shey: >>Twitter has also acknowledged the fact that it was never built to get this big (from scratch) >> I did a video interview at Twitter about a year ago and heard that excuse back then. OK, that made sense back then, but now? It just doesn't ring true anymore.
- Robert Scoble
Translation of Dev/Twitter: (1) We never had a scalable design. (2) We don't have the people that understand scalable design, and we're trying to find reliable consultants (too many fly-by-nights out there). --- I think they need to hire some people from Google Research, Microsoft Research, Research universities, or industry-types who've done big transactional systems (billions-trillions of transactions)....ahem...new CTO. Not just a VP Engineering type.
- Mitchell Tsai
Too funny.
- Andrew Baron
Andrew, read this: http://dev.twitter.com/2008.... Now tell me - is that or is it not a public admission of what's wrong with their architecture?
- Ian Betteridge
The Google guys are too busy working on improving FriendFeed, I doubt they want to get involved in this Twitter trouble.
- Andrew Dobrow
someone some time ago suggested if twitter asks 1000 developers to come and give a hand they'd be happy to do so, maybe even for free, I also think they're clueless, but I don't see them asking for help
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Dobromir: "Not asking for help" is a big difference between "A-people" and "B-people" in VC-speak. "B-people" are afraid to ask people better/smarter than them to help, usually because they fear a lack of control. It's not usually because they think they're better. They often fear the "help of others".
- Mitchell Tsai
@Robert I totally agree. They should have known the system wasn't scalable then and shouldn't be surprised with what's happening now.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Ian, I know all about the post. I was advocating Twitter communication for the last few weeks before they just started communicating recently. Here is a quote from that post "we're more scalable than we were a year ago, but we're not yet reliably horizontally scalable" How can they say they're more scalable then they were a year ago? Other than that, that post served as a "were listening" message and a "yeah we have problems" post, yet they still divert to it not being as bad as "last year" which is crap!
- Andrew Dobrow
Scoble: Dobromir has a good point. It's why VCs usually bet on the "team". It's tough to work with a Twitter-like group. Eventually Twitter can probably learn to build a better system, but will they? And will anyone still be using them then?
- Mitchell Tsai
@Mitchell probably right, but isn't Twitter already out of control, people used to get back after a tough night I don't think that's the case anymore, the momentum is long gone
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
I'm with Ian so much so I joined FF just to comment. I can see how it is possible to spin that post into "Scoble is killing Twitter" but I just don't see it that way. The post is explaining the issue, not atributing blame to an individual user or the community.
- Michael Sadler
Andrew, they can easily be more scalable than a year ago: however, their growth may have outpaced their ability to replace parts of their architecture with better, more scalable systems. They could have found themselves in a "whack-a-mole" scenario: you fix one thing, which increases load on another, which then breaks. So you fix that, and it increases load elsewhere... etc. But either way, I don't think they're blaming the users, which is what's being claimed here.
- Ian Betteridge
Sprague: BING BING BING BING. Twitter's team never has been very communicative on Twitter. FriendFeed's team is TONS better.
- Robert Scoble
Ian, using that argument still doesn't make them more scalable at all. Being scalable calls for the proof that a site is ready for growth. They have proven that they are not ready for that at all. If Twitter had just made a reference to user cache's being backed-up, that would be understandable. But they made a specific allusion to "popular" users with "thousands" of followers who make rapid successive posts.
- Andrew Dobrow
On another tangent, who says they can't blame the community - we don't own (i.e pay) for the service - we are just consumers. True, it might rub people up the wrong way, but it's their party and they can do what they want. Just like we can choose to use FF if Twitter is always going down, right?
- Michael Sadler
Ian: Whack-a-mole is usually a symptom of incorrect architectures at the base of the system...
- Mitchell Tsai
Michael, do you forget that without a community there is nowTwitter? We are all they have. In effect, we do run Twitter. We have more control than they do at the moment now that we know that Scoble could launch a rapid attack and bring the whole boat down to the ground.
- Andrew Dobrow
Robert I don't understand your anger here. You just said on Twitter, while pointing to this article, "Twitter blames me [....] Screw you, Twitter". Twitter did not blame you - and even taking the stance that it was indirect, as you mention above, is still not blaming you. The article points to the fact that popular users cause their database to take big hits and that "It basically has to take its first architecture, which isn’t working, and re-build it on the fly while the service is still running.".
- Scott O'Raw
Sprague: You've got it! When I'm building a company, I try to wait hands-and-foot on my big customers/users. If anything, it's the little guy who suffers if I'm strapped for time. Going after Scoble is STUPID business sense. Better would be "Scoble...would you like to join our improvement group? We'd really value your input (& pay you) comparing different systems because you've used so many. We'd like to know which systems have the best scalable architectures & what technologies they use."
- Mitchell Tsai
...continuing from above: This, to me, points to Twitter realising that the architecture they built was insufficient to cope with how popular Twitter became. If anything it highlights the super-user as a symptom, not the cause. Perhaps though, all this is just a return to the linkbaiting Scoble of old? Incidentally, I had to split this comment into 2 as FF imposes a limit on the 'conversation' - hmmmm :S
- Scott O'Raw
It's obvious Venturebeat wanted tons of traffic by naming Scoble even though the Twitter team did their best to explain what was happening without blaming anyone. In fact, if anything, they blame their own design. Good job MG Siegler, and Venturebeat. Aa cheap shot, but I'm sure it did what you wanted it to do
- Alexander van Elsas
Andrew, I'm not saying that Twitter is scalable (and Mitchell is totally right about whack-a-mole). What I'm saying is that nothing they've said blames the users. It just describes the problems.
- Ian Betteridge
I'm with Scoble that statement was a very poor choice. I don't get all of these "to be fair Twitter wasn't supposed to be this big" arguments. If Twitter was built to be a smaller service to begin with then they should have never let Scoble or anyone else follow and be followed by so many people - poor planning, poor execution and now to top it all off they are going to s**t on the very people who have been enthusiastically championing their service? Wrong choice.
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Twitter does not know what they are doing, and when they need a scape goat they have Scoble. Stop blaming the users, Twitter. Find a solution instead.
- Baard @ Pixum
But the user should never have been put in the position to have control over whether the service is up or down. That's ridiculous. It's like a Wiki of stability.
- Andrew Dobrow
Love the photo of Scoble on that article. :)
- TranceMist
Andrew, yes, users should be able to do whatever the system lets them do. But what they seem to be saying is "Twitter wasn't really designed to do this. We need to fix it."
- Ian Betteridge
I don't think Twitter was trying to blame Scoble. People were asking what they could do to help it was a problem they had to eventually resolve. Stop taking things out of contex and blowing them up. :-\
- Damon Cortesi
from twhirl
Ian --the problem is that (and Scoble has pointed this out) they have had plenty of time to anticipate and fix this problem and seemingly ignored it. Now with a forced last ditch effort at "transparency" they are discussing it and hoping to buy time. I think their time has past. I am with Scoble (maybe not as angry as he is at this point though). They should just pack up their tent, give the $15 mill back and move on. The problems are too deep. Their general incompetence is too visible.
- Brian Sullivan
any service hoping to grow needs to plan for scale at the outset, basic web architectural issue (whether 1.0 or 2.0 or beyond) - blaming outside services & their own users is the sign of a dying entity unfortunately - but remember the value of twitter is in the community it contains, which just needs to migrate away to something richer and more stable - ff seems like a nice place to land :)
- mike "glemak" dunn
Andrew: Yep, I understand the community makes Twitter - without people like Scoble, Calacanis et al I wouldn't bother visiting Twitter. The point I'm making is that it's their choice - we haven't paid for the right to depend on certain levels of uptime and we don't have a right to demand it. All we can do is expect it, and if Twitter's service doesn't meet our expectations (because they don't have the infrastructure, architecture, skills or simply can't be bothered then we can go somewhere else.
- Michael Sadler
Some meta-pointers for this discussion & my opinions here http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Mitchell Tsai
You could also say, "Leo Laporte and Chris Pirillo are killing Twitter". I'm reminded of one of Jeff Atwoods posts that said "All bugs are your fault, no matter what is causing them." http://www.codinghorror.com/blog...
- Scott Koon
I agree with Scoble. Instead of blaming ANY user, be it specifically or in general, they should apologize, maybe throw a bone to the power users who make it popular, and get their shit together. Once they have a stable architecture and service, they could take the next step and figure out a way to make money. What they are doing now is akin to a brick and mortar retailer telling hordes of customers to go away because the weight is cracking the foundation.
- JR Huestis
Jesus, there is just no love here. Let's put aside the scalability issue for one moment. ROBERT: TWITTER DID NOT BLAME YOU. Why take this so personally and unleash a shitstorm? Just because you're not happy with their perceived lack of responsiveness? They built an app, probably for fun. it took off. You used them, you liked them, you promoted them. They're trying to catch up. Probably trying like hell. Everyone is so damned ready to do a pile-on - what's that say about us? Chill out everyone.
- Eric Weaver
Scoble is too popular for twitter. : )
- Alex Soto
Even if power users like Scoble are part of the problem, you dont blame them, you figure out how to solve it, Its an incredibly dumb move to blame anything except themselves, never mind the people who make it popular.
- Scott Purdie
Twitter didn't blame anyone. I don't see how on earth you could infer that from that post on the twitter blog.
- Clint Ecker
Twitter needs to be left to die while people move onto something better. If my gmail account was regularly down (regardless of whether it's because of poor planning or because of people like Scoble) then I'd move on, get a new email address somewhere else and call it a day. In my eyes an email address is something that should be more long term and solid than whether you use twitter, jaiku or pownce. Seems it should be an easy switch??
- Bob
from Alert Thingy
Cmon guys READ THE POSTS. VENTURE BEAT introduced the blame on Scoble, just traffic and link bait, and looking at this discussion they did a GREAT job on it. Just a cheap shot, nothing more. If anything this shows that Friendfeed is not only used for good in-depth discussions but it is also a forum for anyone that wants to add an opinion, even if it is totally besides reality.
- Alexander van Elsas
This is the way I see it guys. Whenever I see the term "Heavy Twitter user" or "Twitter power user", Robert Scoble's smiling face and creepy laugh appears. Robert is THE Twitter power user. So whether Venture Beat mentioned Scoble or not, he would be part of that list of users Twitter mentioned. As a matter of fact he would be at the top of the list. http://www.twitterholic.com/twitter... He performs the most updates out of the top Twitter users which is what they complained about.
- Bwana ☠
Rule #1 of business survival. Don't piss off Scoble. He has too many people that listen to him, because he knows what he is talking about. Bret Taylor and team are amazing. With only 8 employees (last time I heard recently) and less than a year old, they are outperforming Twitter (not that hard right now) and perhaps even Facebook. I like the expression that "money flows to where it is well treated". The same is true with customers.
- Alex Hammer
Friendfeed needs a LIKE click for comments -- I would like to LIKE Scoble's first comment in this thread.
- Sean McBride
They never expressed blame-- they expressed that the majority of the strain was due to tweeting of users with lots of followers... It's a statement of architectural failure on their part. To make the fantastic leap that somehow that means they're saying it's power users' FAULT seems bizarre. Somewhere a VentureBeat editor is cackling with glee that you rose to the bait.
- Tony Wright
It is simply shocking that they would blame there power users. If you cannot build a system to scale they should have limited how many people you can follow ridiculous
- Todd Cochrane
twitter has not only shown their ineptitude with IT management they've now gone a step further and shown their ineptitude with Customer Service appreciation! wow... ultra lame and low brow tactics...not the way to treat your community of early adopters who helped build the fame and fun around your product. what dopes!
- Susan Beebe
maybe this is twitter's new strategy - dump the heavy cargo (aka popular users like Scoble) out of the sinking twitter ship and then get more water out...keep trying to plug up holes with bubble gum!
- Susan Beebe
The VC guys should have given the 15 mil to me
- Charlie Anzman
Go to Jaiku!
- Andrew Ruess
Robert, its becoming more and more apparent that the management at twitter has no clue how to control a service, and instead of admitting they need help, they continue to give run-arounds and hope people blindly follow. No good company should ever blame their problems on the users. plain and simple
- BCK
Come on Robert, 12,318 tweets couldn't get it down, could it? I have almost done 12K and I know many Dutchies who are over 20K @erwblo is way over 25K. So, who did it then? ;-) (Lets get into consipracies here...)
- Arne Hulstein
http://xrl.us/bmazc tweets totally f#(%ed twitter
- Noah David Simon
Come ON already, it's PR. You know how you change the word 'problem' to 'opportunity' or 'challenge'? Yeah, they blamed users, but did so in that retarded passive aggressive 'say the opposite' way. Just like the more they say 'open and transparent' the more I think it's full of shit. It's not fooling anyone anymore.
- Eric Rice
RescueTime, Attention Monitoring Tool - http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2008...
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I just met the team yesterday -- sounds like a great product!
- Paul Buchheit
Rob (and Danny), this sounds like a slick front end for something like your coveted TimePie.
- Clare Dibble
What the heck is a TimePie? :-)
- Tony Wright
TimePie is a stochastic time keeping program one of my friends wrote and he and my husband use to estimate their actual daily activities.
- Clare Dibble
At entirely random times the program asks you "what are you doing RIGHT NOW?" And you answer with a little tag. Then over time it could establish reasonably tight confidence intervals on the fractions of your time you spend at various activities. WRK, FUN, EAT, WEB, etc.
- Clare Dibble
Stochastic time keeping! That's awesome. Over SMS?
- ⓞnor
I think they use it on their computers and fill in other stuff retroactivly, as it is mostly for staying on task at work. But I know Danny has implemented SMS for some of his projects, so possibly. If you'd like to try it out, email dreeves@yootles.com
- Clare Dibble
I'm using it since mid November, great tool and useful too -- if you care to analyze the results of the profiling. Just added friendfeed tag ;)
- ǝuǝƃnǝ
I've had RescueTime installed for almost a month now, too. It's seriously slick.
- Phillip Kast
this looks really interesting, but i'm worried about leaking information about my company's intranet while i'm vpn'd in. even in the aggregate, that information could be damaging...
- ௸ (k2g)
just installed this.. sounds pretty cool
- Ra Roath
kang - same here (same company :-))
- Neil Dunn
Coming to an end of Day 3, not quite as productive as Day 1 and 2, lots of multiple gigabyte data slinging going on with S3
Boo on Day3!
- Tony Wright
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