Yeah, uh, this whole thing has been pretty wild. Up to nearly 12K page views, which is by far the most popular post I've ever done. Posts on the politicization of science in Canada have always been popular, but in the 1-2K page view range.
- John Dupuis
Liked on Fb: 3.6K, Tweets: 763. Even 74 +1's on G+, for heaven's sake.
- John Dupuis
But, how much has this been shared in friendfeed?
- Joe Boone
I wish I were that smart. I guess I should mention that I did submit the post to BB but I imagine they pick up only a very small portion of what's submitted. I suspected I would have a decent shot because Cory Doctorow is Canadian and he has posted about the Canadian goverment in the past. Aside from that, all I did was tweet it up a bit more than usual.
- John Dupuis
Didn't know that there was a process for submitting posts to BB, and that is good to know.
- Joe Boone
Edging up to 30K page views, 73 comments, 7K likes, 1100 tweets, 200 +1's and more than a dozen links from other blogs (including Bruce Sterling, of all people). Probably a dozen or so emails with suggestions, some from insiders. This is seriously unlike anything else that's ever happened.
- John Dupuis
What fun! Congrats, and good job, John. You hit a nerve, and brought info.
- Heather Piwowar
from iPhone
Does anybody *ever* use gears in an illustration these days in a manner that wouldn't destroy the gears if anybody attempted to use them?
- Walt Crawford
Lol. Yes, mommy has hypermesis and has been home for the past month with no end in sight. Other than the constant vomiting everyone is healthy.
- Mary Carmen
from iPhone
I just saw your pregnancy whine post and I think all of downtown Sac heard me say, "Wait, she's pregnant?" (scroll back scroll back scroll back, find announcement) Wow! Congrats to you and Scott.
- Corinne L
I had a feeling this was gonna happen. Congrats! :D
- Colette
Stay tuned; we'll still be doing a public ceremony/celebration, but it probably wont be until next fall. We were impatient and in lurv ;)
- ωαřмaiden ❤Marrit Woman❤
The Death Star Library, or Library and Archives as it was officially known, was a large library on Deck 106 in Sector N-One of the original Death Star. Most information in the library was transferred to phononic lattice storage. The library's data channel was 557.9. It was run by Atour Riten.
my question is, did the collections policy include acquiring recreational reading materials for the crew, as is common on military vessels here on earth.
- DJF
from Android
Remember when Atour Riten quit her Death Star job to go work for Elsevier? Oh the "Dark Side" jokes would not stop.
- Steele Lawman
Death Star Book Club. Sounds like a band name.
- Andy
What's the most polite verb combo for turning down a non-OA writing gig? "Cannot" is untrue. "Will not" sounds petulant. "Choose not to" sounds entitled.
Maybe expressing as a positive? "I only write for open-access publications" or similar. Leaves the door open to "hey, we're gonna release this OA!"
- RepoRat
can you work "committed"/"commitment" in there somehow? "I am committed to writing only for open-access publications"?
- Catherine Pellegrino
or just "don't": "I don't write for publications that don't permit some degree of open access."
- Catherine Pellegrino
Yeah, I think it's some form of "I have committed to... and therefore am currently unable to..." with a side of "if X implements a more OA-friendly blah blah, I'd be happy to reconsider" (if that's true)
- Rachel Walden
I think RR gets it in one, although you might want to add "articles" to that--"I only write articles for open access journals." Or what Catherine says (but do you feel the same about books?)
- Walt Crawford
*regrets making Bartleby the Scrivener allusion, which sank like a lead ballon*
- Stephen le Francoeur
"i have committed to only write/review/sit on editorial boards of open access publications" is my standard line.
- jambina
MWAH MWAH MWAH you guys are the best.
- Meg V. Meg
Unfortunately, I am not able to accept this post/position at this time. Blah, blah, blah.
- Joe Boone
though i have to say, i like lbc's - something like SUKKIT! OA4LIFE!
- jambina
I just sent one of those today for an invitation to write something for a T&F encyclopedia of our profession. I wrote "I have pledged to only publish in open access venues in so far as it is possible, and so I am declining this invitation. Quite honestly, my time would be more usefully spent improving a Wikipedia article on this topic."
- barbara fister
I'm kind of in favor of making T&F's life less pleasant, as well as those who continue to donate labor to T&F. If that makes me crabby, I'm in damn good company!
- RepoRat
After reading more of the thread--Yes, do tell them that you would do it if they were OA, or allowed for immediate green OA copies.
- Joe Boone
In other news, I am on a library advisory board for CRC Library Advistory Board for this summer meeting. I think I will have some things to say about the T&F MotherShip policies.
- Joe Boone
Need to figure out how to use the line "Quite honestly, my time would be more usefully spent improving a Wikipedia article on this topic" somewhere.
- Joe Boone
Oh yes, this was almost a year ago, I have long since responded :)
- Meg V. Meg
This is the money quote: "Quite honestly, my time would be more usefully spent improving a Wikipedia article on this topic" thank you
- awd
Ahhh, that BF revived it with her money quote.
- Joe Boone
Oh, how funny! I didn't realize I'm joining a conversation started LAST May. How'd that happen?
- barbara fister
Argh, there's a Wikipedia article I promised to improve for someone a couple of months ago....
- Deborah Fitchett
It accidentally got bumped because I linked to it in the new thread about the OA TandF issue (http://ff.im/1ffYLP) because this old thread was where I had asked you guys how to respond when they asked me to write something for that very issue.
- Meg V. Meg
Well I'm glad it did, because it was fun to share my off-the-cuff email that was sent just this morning. Love me some serendipity.
- barbara fister
I don't mind chiming in on an old thread... I'd include the phrase "in good conscience" ;)
- Tinfoil 2.0
(I missed this one the first time :) Just reinforces why I want to be BF when I grow up )
- Kathryn is Blake in Hindi
Good luck! I was the speaker coach for a couple of the TEDxYorkU talks this year and we used this video as a tool to help speakers: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- John Dupuis
Char Booth, and Deb Gilchrist both reinforce my fan-girl-dom this week. I am a seriously recalcitrant fan-girl, which just goes to show how awesome they are.
- lris
Char Booth's visualizing departments and interventions, and Gilchrist's space-planning-based-on-philosophy changed my vision of liaison librarianship.
- lris
Now I don't feel so bad for peer-pressuring you into sitting at the front of the room for Deb's panel. I know I stole you away from Meredith. #winning
- kaijsa
I need someone to change my vision of liaison librarianship. [edit: that someone is probably me.]
- Steele Lawman
Gotta admit, when I encounter a blog that's light-grey type on a dark-grey background, I take the advice on bad websites with a whole bushel of salt. Or would, if I was even willing to punish my eyes all the way through.
- Walt Crawford
So one criteria for the worst website is number of links on the home page? we have 18 links, 13 buttons, not counting search tabs and menubar (mouse over drop down menu)
- aarontay
Jen, yours isn't that bad. The UW-Oshkosh redesign is nice.
- Running Slow
Aaron, we've got you beat by a mile for links. I remember counting 50 links on it a few years ago, and I thinks some have been added since then... I'd never suggest that it's among the worst library websites out there, though. http://scc.losrios.edu/~librar...
- JffKrlsn
Right. Is not just the number of links. I wouldn't suggest ours is among the worst either. At least the current version. But i think our libguides home might almost rank as that and it's mostly my fault.
- aarontay
regarding that blog post, apart from gray on black problems, there's this: libraries that don't have a discovery layer are just plain stupid. "If finances are so bad, and there’s no other viable way, they should get rid of a member of library staff and invest instead in improving the services that are actually needed." Because as we all know, Primo and Summon work without any need for staff whatsoever.
- barbara fister
...and that member of the library staff certainly isn't responsible for any services that are actually needed. :-/
- Catherine Pellegrino
ours is.... not so good. library.illinois.edu
- Sarah
well, okay, tell you what -- I'm heading back to the Leonard Center and I'll try to hang out in the circle of chairs near the registration desk that I saw you in before lunch, 'k?
- RepoRat
Oh! FMLA. Family Medical Leave Act. So I can take the 6 - 8 weeks off of work and not get fired.
- Sarah G.
Is it weird that your doctor charged you for that? Mine didn't when I had to do a short FMLA at one point.
- Jason P
Some charge, some dont. I love my current rheum doc for not charging (and turning it around in 24 hours). My other doc charges $50. Also, huzzah for fmla.
- ωαřмaiden ❤Marrit Woman❤
I thought so? And they won't fax it for me. I have to pick it up in person. But I guess $12 is better than $50.
- Sarah G.
I am spoiled. I have never been charged for it AND they've faxed it for me both times.
- laura x
Melinda's neurologist gave us an updated list of fees yesterday that resulted from changes/reductions in Medicare payments to doctors. A disabled parking form costs $25, all other forms are $75. Note, that he hasn't filed any claims for Melinda's visits in years. He covers it out of his own pocket)
- Greg GuitarBuster
I hereby resolve not to use the word "purchase" to describe the library's acquisition of content or a service unless the library then owns said content or service. All ongoing payments are "subscriptions" and should be so named.
I still don't know what to call the ebooks and ejournals that we own but that are still subject to license agreements. Like, we "own" JSTOR content, and many libraries "owned" penguin ebooks, and that stuff still disappeared.
- lris
Iris, do you mean things where your library has to pay an annual "hosting fee"?
- Stephen le Francoeur
Well, that depends. We do own Web of Science data, because there's a one-time fee to pay for the content, and then an ongoing access fee. And we have in the past taken the WoS data and loaded it on to a local platform. So, if you were to cancel JSTOR, would they send you a DVD of the content you'd paid for? Except for one library, I don't think that penguin/overdrive sold books to anybody. Even if they were using the word "purchase" to describe what was happening.
- DJF
Ah, then what publisher am I think of where, like, Orwell disappeared off of people's Kindles and stuff?
- lris
That was Amazon. And they seriously screwed up on that one, because they were selling content into jurisdictions where they didn't have the rights to sell it (what with it not being in the public domain in the United States).
- DJF
Penguin disappeared all Kindle versions of ebooks from Overdrive a couple of years ago, overnight. The Orwell thing was actually a separate incident a few years before.
- laura x
Thanks Laura, that's what I was thinking of.
- lris
Regarding ebooks, it's always been a bit fishy. OverDrive originally said we owned them. Then it said we didn't (see awesome Kansas librarians fighting back). Now Random House says we own their ebooks (which they charge 300% more for).
- laura x
There's what Random House says, and there's what Random House's contract says. In this case, unless the contract says that we get perpetual access, with a right to request the content for local hosting (subject to reasonable[sic] access management), then no, we don't own it.
- DJF
MPOW does, in fact, own the Springer ebooks, and we are providing parallel access through both the Springer website and a local, consortially run, server. But the same is not true of Elsevier books that we buy through our normal book distributor, even though we would own them if we bought directly from Elsevier.
- DJF
Ok, that makes some sense. I haven't seen our contracts, but I do know that our policy for the last several years has been to purchase e-content whenever possible rather than subscribe. So then theoretically we should be able to get disappeared content in some other form as long as we host it ourselves?
- lris
indeed, it is the "some other form" that keeps this e-resources librarian up at night.
- Marie
Yeah. We're lucky that we have consortial support for that, because really, we'd be screwed if we had to provide a platform. We could probably stuff it all into some IR platform, I suppose.
- DJF
I guess I have to hope that if JSTOR goes under, someone will make an open source platform for us to load content into.
- lris
If JSTOR goes under, we're all going to have bigger problems than where to host the content.
- DJF
CLOCKSS and Portico fulfill the "some other form" need for many platforms. Not sure whether JSTOR is signed up with one or the other, but I wouldn't be surprised. Checking Portico...
- RepoRat
Well, then there's the issue of affording membership to those things.
- lris
Trigger events with CLOCKSS and Portico trigger OA. They're per-publisher, though, so JSTOR must have alternative arrangements.
- RepoRat
I say "we have a license to..." since there are things we subscribe to and own (e.g. printed newspapers) so I don' t feel "subscription" is enough of a signal that there are special circumstances at play ...
- Lisa Hinchliffe
good point. would "temporary access" be better?
- RepoRat
Lisa, good point. I am really primarily focused on electronic content. I find it particular egregious when used to talk about services, as in, "We just bought Mendeley". No, we didn't. Unless we're suddenly venture capitalists. We subscribed to it.
- DJF
Totally agree. I think it as casual usage by most people - not literalness - but I think we need to be really careful. I see word choice as part of an informal information literacy curriculum when we talk to/around users. Not to start a war here about info lit but, even as a coordinator of info lit in formal ways, I think our informal curriculum is much more powerful and - distressingly problematic ...
- Lisa Hinchliffe
no fighting from me on that; I think that's absolutely right.
- RepoRat
Our ERL who deals with ebooks is trying to keep us updated on what we own vs. lease via a LibGuide, but for any one vendor there can be five models we're using. I totally agree that saying we license things is a much better and truer way to talk about our e-collections.
- kaijsa
Many of our e-journals are not governed by a license, they're just subscribed e-content.
- Marie
What kind of subscription is there that isn't a license for a e-content? Maybe I don't realize all the possibilities (they do seem to keep multiplying!) ...
- Lisa Hinchliffe
When we transitioned from print to electronic subscriptions for our journals, we negotiated perpetual access for the content that we paid for. So, if we cancel a journal tomorrow, we continue to get access to the years that we subscribed, but new content moving forward isn't available.
- DJF
Here's an example of e-content you can subscribe to but there isn't a license: http://journals.humankinetics.com/; we pay an annual subscription through our vendor but don't sign any paperwork that governs how we may use the material. In addition, we have many print+online subscriptions, where e-access is granted as long as we subscribe to the print; when we cancel the subscription the e-access goes away.
- Marie
What's to stop us from all sharing a subscription to that kind of thing then?
- Meg V. Meg
I mean, it's fine with me if the answer is "fairness and decency", I'm just not used to being trusted that much by publishers, so I'm curious what the catch is :)
- Meg V. Meg
Also, man, I wish my family did not place such emphasis on the TIME you were born. Because all day today I'm going to be looking at the clock and thinking, "Nope, I was still in labor."
- laura x