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This week's Economist debate "Too Many People? This house believes that the world wouldbe better off with fewer people" http://www.economist.com/debate...
I agree certainly after having seen an interview with James Lovelock @ bbc's Hard Talk here's an article about him, guess you know the guy, others not perhaps;) http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguar... P.S. here's a filmed interview on YT http://www.youtube.com/watch... P.P.S. here's the link to the BBC programme: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Adri Munier
Thanks Adri, new food for thought
- Werner Vogels
I consider shortened urls ephemeral and not a "permanent link of record"; archival and indexing of the RT web is different from core stream
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Yeah, but thanks to search engines, what happens if someone finds a tweet in the future and clicks that link? Then everything breaks. I agree that because Twitter search sucks so much right now that this problem will clean itself out for the most part.
- Robert Scoble
yep, anytime I can I use my URLs ...for a lot of reasons including branding http://USCute.com
- Craig Shipp
but this is always be a problem.. pemlink are just that.. tinyurls tend to break the web
- Peter Dawson
Tweets tend to be ephemeral as well. I mean, how often do you really need to refer back to old tweets? After a couple weeks, they're pretty useless.
- Otto
Maybe everyone should publish to the wayback machine first so there's always a time consistent and cached view of the internet :-) Or accept that web itself isn't a permanent store of record. It's a roiling, boiling reflection of our subconscious.
- Todd Hoff
"Roiling, boiling reflection of our subconscious" @ToddHoff Highly quotable and true [?]
- Shari Weiss
loc.gov is starting to experiment with archiving selected twitter content (http://twitter.com/library...). Resolving the shortened URL is really important for keeping the context for this sort of material. Interestingly, a properly configured Heritrix crawler (from Internet Archive http://crawler.archive.org) is able to follow and record the hops for later browsing if the shortening service is to go away.
- Ed Summers
imo we should not consider the real-time web to be a superset of the static and dynamic web. As such it does not inherit the properties of those. Indexing, archiving, record keeping, should include the permanent links not the temporary level-of-indirection-short-name link (link ff does). Search engines and other indexing engines should treat links like that.
- Werner Vogels
I also have no issue with twitter deleting anything from my stream that is let say more than 1 month old (2 weeks, just pick time frame). They provide the real-time stream, including the real-time index of that stream, but archival is a different beast and has different functionality and properties.
- Werner Vogels
As long as the link shortener service returns a 301 redirect (http://friendfeed.com/toddh...) when accessed the real content is being referenced for SEO purposes. I don't know if Google et al also store the "real" URLs. Many, like Digg, don't behave properly.
- Todd Hoff
come now, archiving tweets is a pretty important and unmet need. history is unfolding on twitter, sociology, etc. and you don't have a problem with them not archiving it? if it were a totally open platform and someone else could archive the firehose, then that would be one thing, but right now it's a huge loss imho
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
Archiving is *very* important, but is a different functional system, and is more similar to the static web. As such it needs different abstractions from real-time provider and indexing. I want my tweets to be archived and indexed, but I don't necessarily need to have twitter do that for me in the same manner they provide the real-time stream. IMO seperating the requirements of the two...
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- Werner Vogels
+1 for separating the requirements of real time vs archival systems
- Ed Summers
Clearly what you want is a micro-blogging service that incorporate diigo AND bitly, taking "cached" images of linked websites and producing short urls that not only work as long as the micro-blogging service is around, but fall back to the cached view if the server doesn't respond for any reason ;) And sprinkle a little Google indexing on top.
- Joel Bennett
Where can this sign be found? - http://mobypicture.com/?tv0i4q
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I think I've seen that sign before. One of the older London Underground stations?
- Rasmus Lauridsen
Googling suggests Borough tube station, via http://tigergrowl.wordpress.com/2006...
- Dan Brickley
I think it's Covent Garden station, it has a set of spiral steps.
- Bill de hÓra
I don't think its Covent Garden because I think that is 162 steps, and not used just as an emergency exit, but I could be wrong...
- Cameron Neylon
not goodge street?
- Joe Dunckley
It is at the Borough underground station - apart from this stairwell it only has a pair of lifts as connection to teh surface- http://bit.ly/aIEMC
- Werner Vogels
Also could be Lambeth North - but can't remember how many steps...
- Matthew Todd
Comment on: Business Cards Suck: Try These Tools Instead - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
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I agree on the Cloud Contacts recommendation. I just had them scan more than 4,000 cards for me and it freaking rocks to have them all in a database. Sorry, nothing beats the ubiquity of business cards. If you're going to use Business Cards, make sure you follow the best practices. I wrote that up here: http://scobleizer.com/2006...
- Robert Scoble
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@scobleizer: "2) Make sure your card can be scanned. I bought a business card scanner so that I could get my computers into computer form." Heh.
- wyclif
Thanks for leaving your comments, Robert! =) I agree that biz cards are ubiquitous, but they're so... icky? cheesy? wasteful? forgettable? At shows, I usually just wait to meet the really interesting people I actually WANT to follow up with, then I get their Twitter handle, follow them from my mobile, and let the convo go on from their. I guess that method only works b/c I'm particular about who I follow, tho. ;) Hi fives and see you around!
- Jolie O'Dell
I keep seeing tons of different sites popping up online trying to replace business cards. Of course this doesn't work right now since everyone uses one of the 11ty billion different systems. It'll be nice once some format widely accepted pops up for transferring between something like smart phones. Virtual Rolodex with cards sorted by meeting times.
- Dean Clark
Where's Poken? :-)
- Paul Papadimitriou
Poken is a toy compared to these devices, especially at the open software services level. The best comparison I have heard (mentioned at the jury deliberations when mynameise won the startup event at the NextWeb) was: if poken is myspace then E is linkedin.
- Werner Vogels
@ Werner, Is E technically superior in some way or is it just the casing that you don't like?
- KyleHase
at the hardware level the E devices are indeed much easier to connect based on the specific radio technologies that they use. But what impresses me more is their vision around software/cloud infrastructure that makes sharing of these kinds of information independent of the specific devices.Where this service can evolved and be useful to all of us even if a year from now we have different devices.
- Werner Vogels
BTW: for easy sharing of social networking informatie, here is my public business E-Card http://www.mynameise.com/werner
- Werner Vogels
Werner, mine is here: http://www.google.com/profile... :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert, you'll have to admit, mine looks a lot cooler. Which should appeal to you apple design aficionado's Plus I have the choice out of different cards that I can exchange, e.g. business vs leisure.
- Werner Vogels
You guys missed retaggr: http://www.retaggr.com/page...
- Aad 't Hart
Just what I need: Another device. The right way to do this is a voice print. Just say your name to your new friend's phone, that's it. Imagine OpenID/FF/FB/Plaxo/Gmail storing your voice print as part of your ID. You plug in, upload the new voice prints of your new friends and then get all the contact info needed. You could also add the words "friend", "business", "Facebook" or whatever...
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- Rebecca Rachmany
I hate business cards and love the suggestions in this conversation. I am checking out BeamMe. Thanks!
- Jill Howard Allen
Thanks for the comments, everyone! We’re glad to see other companies moving into this space; it validates that the problem we’re all trying to solve is a real one and that we can do some real good by addressing it. As you may have seen in our Google Tech Talk, Poken too has a very open philosophy and Poken too envisions a world in which people can share identities regardless of device...
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- Bryan Guido Hassin
This is very helpful on business cards!
- Sheryl Brown
My SXSW New Music top pick: The Asteroids Galaxy Tour - http://werner.ly/my-sxsw...
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I love the internet and this is an example of why. Thanks Werner! (He's CTO of Amazon and a very fun guy).
- Robert Scoble
Thanks Robert. Sorry for the initial hickups with editing this entry. All videos and the Amazon mp3 preview widget should work fine now.
- Werner Vogels
Amazon S3 now hosts over 40 Billion objects. More details in Alyssa Henry's FAST Keynote; http://perspectives.mvdirona.com/2009... #AWS #S3
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and if each of those "objects" is a byte, then all of Amazon S3 fits on an iPod. impressive statistic FAIL. :-D i know, i know, the average object is *probably* bigger than a byte, but the slide deck didn't say.
- Karim
I personally have about 1K of objects on S3 weighing in at about 40GB so far... Wouldn't fit on an iPod or I'd just use one instead.
- Her Lindsay-ness
I have nothing bad to say about S3, Lindsay -- i'm just saying that 40 billion unspecified *somethings* is not really impressing me. the author might as well say that "S3 made the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs." :-D
- Karim
It is not as much the absolute number but the growth trend that is important
- Werner Vogels
I gather that was the point of the slide that had the statistic :-) not that "tripled in size!!!" is *that* much more meaningful on a computer when you don't know what the units are :-) but the tweet mentioned the number of objects only.
- Karim
perhaps anticipating this objection, the keynote's author included a Bertrand Russell quote as one of his slides: "Everything is vague to a degree you do not realize till you have tried to make it precise." he then listed "object size" on a "What don't we know?" slide. :-) I haven't decided whether a slide designed to impress people with a growth rate is deceptive if you later...
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- Karim
"and if each of those "objects" is a byte" - you missed the point. What's interesting here is the growth rate as Werner said, but as important is S3's ability to address that many objects. Infinite disk doesn't mean anything if you can't provide a sufficient address space
- Bill de hÓra
Bill, neither Werner's tweet NOR the blog post NOR the keynote slide deck to which both refer said *anything* about S3's "address space." Not that your comment is irrelevant or anything.
- Karim
Engaged! (In the "she said yes" sense.)
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Congrats!
- Benjamin Golub
Congrats, DeWitt! So happy for you.
- Bret Taylor
Congrats
- Steve Weis
Another happy bachelor bites the dust. :D Congrats.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Congrats DeWitt!
- Elias Torres
Great news--congratulations!
- Matt Cutts
Congrats!
- EricaJoy
Congrats!?:)
- Igor Poltavskiy
Congrats!! of course now it becomes time to think about your future, settle down, move north and take that great job at Amazon! :-)
- Werner Vogels
Congratulations!
- abacab
Thanks, everyone!
- DeWitt Clinton
Congrats!
- Steve Ivy
w00t!
- Joel Webber
Congratulations!
- David Recordon
congrats!
- Derek Collison
Congrats! I'm psyched for you guys.
- Tom Stocky
Wow, can't wait to hear the story of the romantic act. Eiffel tower and all that ;) Congrats.
- Dion Almaer
Wow, congrats DeWitt!
- Mike Yang
Sweet! Congrats!
- Chris Messina
Amazon Elastic Block Store (EBS) - http://www.amazon.com/b...
"Amazon Elastic Block Store (EBS) provides block level storage volumes for use with Amazon EC2 instances. Amazon EBS volumes are off-instance storage that persists independently from the life of an instance. Amazon Elastic Block Store provides highly available, highly reliable storage volumes that can be attached to a running Amazon EC2 instance and exposed as a device within the instance. Amazon EBS is particularly suited for applications that require a database, file system, or access to raw block level storage."
- DeWitt Clinton
from Bookmarklet
Some highlights: "Amazon EBS allows you to create storage volumes from 1 GB to 1 TB that can be mounted as devices by Amazon EC2 instances. Multiple volumes can be mounted to the same instance." and "Each storage volume is automatically replicated within the same Availability Zone. This prevents data loss due to failure of any single hardware component."
- DeWitt Clinton
This is great stuff. Congrats to @Werner and the AWS team!
- DeWitt Clinton
Thanks, DeWitt. I am really interested to see what people will do with the snapshot feature. Customers have been know to surprise us....
- Werner Vogels
Wondering if just because someone else is already doing something if that's a sufficient reason not to do it yourself...
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I hate to quote Mao but "Let a hundred flowers bloom; let a hundred schools of thought contend" Trying out different solutions to the same problem can lead to better solutions when we combine the best aspects of both solutions
- Adewale Oshineye
That's encouraging advice -- I like that.
- DeWitt Clinton
Given that most of us process a similar set of input stimuli a number of people will come to similar conclusions and have similar ideas, in parallel. One could even argue that to really establish a new idea, multiple individuals need to act and develop in parallel.
- Werner Vogels
Good way of looking at it, Werner. I know that I'd be hard pressed to think of a time that I felt I was being truly original, but that's not to say I haven't participated in a few innovations...
- DeWitt Clinton
+1 for that quote.
- nadim
Just wached USA vs. NED. So sad.
USA looked like they were sleepwalking in the second half. Wasting the chance in the 88th minute, then the stupid Bradley yellow card, and a bs Holden foul to set up the tying goal right through the wall. Craptacular. And I don't even follow soccer, football, whatever.
- DeWitt Clinton
But it does make for a very interesting 3rd match. Nigeria is worthy opponent, And the Dutch can still progress to the next round.
- Werner Vogels
I'm glad that the Dutch can advance, they earned it from not giving up and mounting that last attack.
- DeWitt Clinton
Without a "british" team, I can barely watch. 2012 baybee.
- Dion Almaer
Giving up on 2010 already, Dion?
- DeWitt Clinton
@timoreilly Those services were impacted, but the retail website did not show noticeable problems because it mostly uses cached data.
I guess the message before that didn't make it into the global timeline: @timoreilly S3 is used heavily by a number of services behind Amazon’s retail websites and those services were impacted.
- Werner Vogels
http://twitpic.com/4w95 - A hectic day in Seattle is winding down
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Awesome view @Werner! Is that from Beacon Hill? Great job responding today BTW. I'd love to talk to YOU about MY use of YOUR cloud!
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Actually not Beacon Hill. That looks like Renton area looking Northwest. Mercer Island in middle?
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Its from Sommerset in Bellevue, the hill above Factoria. Let have coffee soon.
- Werner Vogels
If you do not see your Twitter avatars in Twhirl it's because Amazon S3 is down according to @centernetworks
Michael Connick, Rick Huizinga, Warner Crocker and Brian Daniel Eisenberg liked this
The one-click buy button in Amazon MP3 is killing me. Another 8 albums.
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uh, it's a good thing you work there then! :)
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
seems like this is self induced on so many levels werner ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
Good thing no one else can implement it. (Zing!)
- DeWitt Clinton
Marshall: nope, just a regular customer... althought I do believe strongly in eating my own "dog food"
- Werner Vogels
DeWitt: anyone can implement it.
- Werner Vogels
Werner, you know I love Amazon like family. But I didn't realize it had issued a non-assertion covenant for the 1-click patents. Is that the case?
- DeWitt Clinton
I was refering to that others have implemented it (e.g. itunes)
- Werner Vogels
Apple paid a licensing fee to do that. : /
- DeWitt Clinton
But let's not let that distract from the point -- 1-click buying and DRM-free Amazon mp3 shopping is *wonderful*. I've probably bought 50 albums there already. : ) [Edit, whoops, only a dozen... I thought more.]
- DeWitt Clinton
The DRM-free part is addictive. I have multiple players that cannot take wma or aac. Not having to think where you can and cannot play content is the right customer experience. This weekend there was an album I couldn't find DRM free and I reverted back to ordering the CD instead of jumping through the other hoops.
- Werner Vogels
I'm a BIG fan of Amazon MP3s. Any plans to move into subscription-based live streaming music? Pandora and Last.fm are cool, but limited mostly to folks in the USA. How do we take live music streaming via subscription-based services to a global audience?
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
+1 to DRM free at all costs. If I can't get it on Amazon MP3 store then it is an old fashioned CD and Amazon Prime. Also super happy with the relatively high bitrates of the mp3 store.
- DeWitt Clinton
Brian - as usual with questions about Amazon plans :-) - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Werner Vogels
New York Times on the importance of the good ol' fashioned push-up: http://tinyurl.com/288xod”
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the push up should be everyone's foundation for daily exercise. that and the jump rope are heavily overlooked. Try jumping rope for a solid 3 minutes. Chances are, that you can't.
- Carlos Ayala
Need to get going on the push ups again. No time cannot be an excuse naymore.
- Muthu Ramadoss
http://www.hundredpushups.com/ - it is a simple & though program (site appreas a bit overloaded at the moment)
- Werner Vogels
I guess shiny objects that help define identity and ego trump reason and principle any day.
Gary Bacon II liked this
yeah it's just that we all have very short attention spa.....oooh! shiny!!!
- John Goering
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Did someone say "shiny objects?" Got my attention. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Designers and developers can be paid in shiny -- most times. lol.
- Gary Bacon II
whole continents have been conquered with beads and shiny mirrors, so I guess that somewhere there must be a business book based on that approach...
- Werner Vogels
But a shiny ego will trump objects everyday too :)
- Melle Gloerich
There's a pre-schooler kids show called 'The Shiny Show', if you answer a question correct, the phrase is "Give yourself a Shiny!" Conclusion: This 'shiny' obession starts young!
- Charlie Hope
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This was by far the most attention-getting presentation I've seen this year: http://scobleizer.com/2008...
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Lanting's "Life: A Journey through Time" book which is central in his presentations is truly magnificent: http://twurl.nl/11g12u
- Werner Vogels
@rom: I'm convinced that we're in a period of slowly seeing all of our privacy disappear. It's why I'm so public about everything.
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Only if we let it happen. There are numerous valid reasons for privacy, and we shouldn't be so cavalier about chucking it away for everyone just because some don't think we need much at the moment.
- LogEx
The very idea and expectation of "privacy" is changing, and it's partly generational. Social software tools (for one) need to provide the full range of robust options, from sharing all like @scobelizer to varying levels of contextual "privacy." But Scoble is right, many kinds of privacy will be taken out of our hands in the name of government security and for the purpose of corporate exploitation.
- Dean Terry
Does giving away your privacy make it more likely others will have theirs eroded unwillingly?
- Ken Sheppardson
there has go to be a better way
- Kim Landwehr
I disagree. The services that care about this stuff will build strong options and protections for shades of public vs private
- Don MacAskill
Why do we have expectations of privacy? Openness is desirable.
- Sally Robinson
We have expectations of privacy because we expect control over our data. The objection is not to sharing data, but to loss of control
- Robert Blum
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privacy, what the hell is that? I've given up all hope. Sides, it's like a criminal act, if someone really wants something, nothing can stop them.
- thecolor
Services that care about their customers have to implement controls. Many jurisdictions have very strict regulations wrt this
- Werner Vogels
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