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Class B Motorhomes - http://tinyhouseblog.com/tiny-ho...
John Hage liked this
These are pretty cool -- but what is it with that fake wood-oid they have in the bathroom? I think that crap look cheesy on a dashboard, so why would someone want to decorate an entire bathroom with it?
- John Hage
Agreed on the fake wood crap. Very "70s-80s". I am SOOOO fond of "little houses" in general lately.
- Dan Overlander
:| "3D scanning with a plain webcam" ( http://www.boingboing.net/2009... )
This is really amazing stuff. From games to augmented reality, what won't be possible?
- Dan Overlander
Wow - that is really really cool. When can we buy the software?
- Sean O'Brien
I created an account to receive updates so I'll definitely let you know - or you can follow thru to his site & sign up. I HOPE it's available SOON.
- Dan Overlander
Really Amazon? - http://digg.com/comedy...
"If you will notice, that is actually the Monster Manual for D&D. Amazon obviously knows everyone already has the player's guide."
- Dan Overlander
2009-11-25 07.14.52 - http://picasaweb.google.com/winkybo...
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qu'est-ce que c'est?
- Sean O'Brien
Ahhh... heh - I'm always just so impressed by double-decker buses in America (well, anywhere, really, but it's rarer to see them here) that I'm driven to photograph them. They're the Yeti of the highway.
- Dan Overlander
Having ZERO luck with Mexican restaurants lately. First Pancheros, now Taco Johns. Why cant I find good, authentic Mexican food anywhere?
Taco BLEAARGH....
- Dan Overlander
Try a place on the east-side.... like El Burrito Mercado or Chula Vista
- Sean O'Brien
multiple file upload with image preview and rotate | Ady Levy - http://www.adylevy.com/index...
A nice, easy-to-implement, multiple-file resize & upload system for Flash 10
- Dan Overlander
A Friend’s Tweet Could Be an Ad - http://www.nytimes.com/glogin...
I've seen this crap in action before. First, it's obvious (-ish). Second, I will UNfollow someone (or not follow them in the first place) for using this kind of trick. I don't mind ADS but don't try to trick us by pretending to be a valid information source.
- Dan Overlander
Raw Organic Milk, Eggs, Butter, Meat and More - Home - http://jason2345.webs.com
A Minnesota-based community-supported agriculture (CSA) website for ordering vegetables, milk, eggs, butter, meat, and more.
- Dan Overlander
Our Vegetable Travelers - http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/plantan...
A summary of 33 vegetables, their history and properties.
- Dan Overlander
Herbal Remedies and Natural Remedies - http://www.goherbalremedies.com/blog
To-the-point herbal remedies for body ailments
- Dan Overlander
Curses! I need more contacts using Google Wave! Where are @KatieCW @courtenuh @roachelle08 - If I had invites I'd send them to you... :(
katie and henry are on it... katiecware@googlewave.com and hbreimhurst@googlewave.com
- Sean O'Brien
Cool. Added them! Thanky!
- Dan Overlander
Roger Rabbit And Friends Get An Upgrade To Motion Capture? [Roger Rabbit] - http://io9.com/5396229...
With the same writers as the first, I'm in. But without Bob Hoskins as Eddie Valiant, you can't have a Roger Rabbit sequel.
- Jason B.
With the same writers as the first, I'm in. But without Bob Hoskins as Eddie Valiant, you can't have a Roger Rabbit sequel.
- Jason B.
I don't understand why people think that a character in a movie must be played by the original actor/actress that starred in the role. In broadway theatre, actors are replaced all the time and no one says anything. For me, all that's crucial in a RR sequel are the cartoon characters; Roger, Jessica, etc.
- Dan Overlander
Soapers Choice - Base Oils for Soap Making - http://www.soaperschoice.com
Good prices on large quantities of large varieties of oil
- Dan Overlander
Staying Power: Rethinking Feedback to Keep Players in the Game - http://www.gamasutra.com/view...
[In this in-depth article, originally printed in Game Developer magazine earlier this year, Microsoft Game Studios user research expert Phillips looks at a simple but vital problem - why people stop playing games, and what feedback we can give them to encourage them to continue.]
- Sean O'Brien
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From where are these charts generated? It might be interesting to compare the percent of games completed to reviewer's ratings, to see whether higher-rated games are actually completed by many people or not.
- Dan Overlander
Where to Find Quality Images that are Free For Commercial Use - http://www.businesstoolchest.com/article...
A list of websites offering royalty-free imagery.
- Dan Overlander
The Raw Feed: Dungeons & Dragons for Microsoft Surface created - http://www.therawfeed.com/2009...
Well... time to start saving up for a Microsoft Surface table, I guess. Nothing else to it, really.
- Dan Overlander
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Wil Wheaton, Bastard - http://www.toplessrobot.com/2009...
Awesomeness. I've never watched Big Bang Theory, but if it has tips of the hat to nerd-dom like this, I'll have to check it out.
- Dan Overlander
Should it bother me that they obviously aren't really playing MTG?
- Sean O'Brien
I think it should bother us. It's kind of like saying, "yeah, here's to you, nerd dudes. But you're just a little TOO nerdy for real prime time." (Of course I realize there are actually/probably licensing issues at stake, but it's also proper nerd form to get upset at nothing in particular.)
- Dan Overlander
I say boycott Big Bang Theory until they show a proper MTG game with at least a mana tap.
- Sean O'Brien
Perfect Scrambled Eggs - Mr Breakfast.com (via feedly) - http://www.mrbreakfast.com/article...
Simple, useful information about cooking the perfect scrambled egg. I looked this up this morning just to see what else anyone recommended adding to scrambled eggs, as I usually just mixed 'em up and fried 'em - which tastes just fine, frankly. But I tried the Perfect Recipe as listed here (substituting, as usual, coconut oil for butter and almond milk for dairy milk) and I was surprised to find that my mother-in-law simply raved about them, relating them back to the eggs she loved when she was a child in Ukraine. So, I guess there's something to the additions!
- Dan Overlander
gig3 is playing RESIDENT EVIL 5 - http://live.xbox.com/en-US...
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I expected to see this.
- Dan Overlander
Totally won the game. ;)
- Sean O'Brien
What would happen if demand for highly processed foods instantly went away? Have long answer? Go to http://friendfeed.com/pro-food
Andrea Wallick, Liz McLellan and ZEBRAFINCH liked this
Rob, i think this is a great question and one i've mused on quite a bit. I believe that once an infrastructure is in place that enables people to shift from highly processed to raw or lightly processed foods, the shift will happen incredibly quickly. I think its wound up in the amazing dynamism of the American people to self correct. Once, we as a society, make the decision to cook...
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- Zachary Adam Cohen
If that demand actually disappeared, you'd see a lot of companies laying people off - but I think those same people who are laid off would probably regain employment somehow with the local food movement. That would be the "worst" that would happen, and in the future we would probably see a change in the medical industry as well, considering that so much medical-industry labor is a result of the poor food choices we tend to make because of processed foods. Thus, in the long run, it would absolutely better.
- Dan Overlander
Zach, my question is definitely a hypothetical in that the change would be instant. What I am mentally processing is how such a change would be felt throughout America, which will highlight how extensive the "food cartel" has infiltrated all aspects of our nation. Its a theme I am working on for a future blog post, so keep the ideas coming!
- Rob Smart
Dan, appreciate your comment and I agree that the industrial food workforce would need to find new jobs, as would certain suppliers to farms (e.g., GMO seed companies, heavy farm equipment mfgs, etc.). What are your thoughts on other segments of the food chain, e.g., retailers? And what about indirect impacts, e.g., schools with vending machines that contribute to school budgets?
- Rob Smart
Big Food would have to follow the market if demand for junk food disappeared. But first they would make every attempt to subvert it, as they have with "organic," "low fat," "low carb," "sugar-free," "fat-free," ad nauseam. They WILL do all they can to push the cost of materials - that is, ACTUAL FOOD - as low as possible. A lot of consumers will be taken in by shiny labels first.
- Michaele Maurer
Yep, that's what I was thinking of; although I hadn't thought about vending machines, the amount that our system revolves around highly-processed foods is immeasurable. That alone should be a shocking realization to anyone who pauses to think of it.
- Dan Overlander
Rob although you asked a hypothetical question I think we face a bigger challenge. The food industry and highly processed foods may have reached that point in our present economy that they are considered to big to fail. Cars and banks reached that point leaving us no choice as a nation but to support them. Or so the tell us. Will the companies adapt if the consumers change? they may not need to.
- Brett Henderson
Brett, I am taking a different approach with this hypothetical. My intention is to write about how intertwined industrial food, and in particular highly processed foods, are in our society by showing the impact reducing demand will have on our economy, communities, health, etc. Clearly, such a decline will hurt corporations, lobbyists and recipients of their (financial) attention. Should be interesting to see how this piece unfolds. Thanks for the help!
- Rob Smart
imagine the US w/o big oil soaked ag/ processed food - we wouldn't need the middle east anymore - how freeing!
- Heather Walters
No one has mentioned the fact that highly processed food is shelf stable. Food that is fresh as a shorter shelf life. There would be a need for people to shop more. More money into the local economy and more jobs closer to home. There would be less need for packaging and companies couldn't do business all over the world. (eg Coca-Cola)
- summerkitchen
summerkitchen, I would disagree. Most of the vegetables found in our grocery stores right now are shipped in from all over the world. This is how we get tomatoes in the middle of winter, sweet corn in the spring. As long as its able to be affordably shipped there most likely be food shipped from all corners of the globe. This is good and bad
- Mike Haley
I take issue with the term "highly processed food". Too much generalisation may kill the discussion and what's more, take away the opportunity to improve foods. "No trans fat", "less salt", "More unsaturated fats" are all potentially actionable issues, while "highly processed" is not (unless you are arguing to eat raw food). Is low fat yogurt highly processed? Frozen Spinach? The better people can indicate what the want and don't want, the more likely it is it will actually be offered.
- Paul van Eijck
Mike, forget about vegetables for a moment and focus on highly-processed food, which is the topic. What would things look like if demand instantly disappeared for such calories? We can take up produce later.
- Rob Smart
Rob, I also think hypothetically if this were to happen farmers would quickly shift to what is demanded some of this will still be corn, soybeans, and wheat. But if there is more of a demand for other crops then the farmers that have sutable ground to grow that will. Now as far as the farm loby, they will squak for awhile, but as farmers shift their interest to other crops they are...
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- Mike Haley
Hello @PotatoPro (Paul). Kill whose discussion? This is my discussion and that is the topic, so people talking about it won't stop me from talking. Processed is processed. Using things like "no trans fat" or "less salt" or whatever is irrelevant. The discussion is about what things would look like if the demand for such calories fell of a cliff. Can you stretch your imagine to such a scenario, as uncomfortable as it may be on the other side for you, your clients or others?
- Rob Smart
the amazing thing about American farmers is that (& my gggrands journals show it) they can go from plwing w a horse to a giant tractor in a matter of a few years - so if the america public wakes up and says hey lets get healthy - farmers WILL adapt just as Mike says.
- Heather Walters
Yes I meant colas, candy bars and chips have some sort of preservatives in them so they can be packaged all over the world. Also our current economy changes everyday it could happen very rapidly.
- summerkitchen
summerkitchen Potato chips and candy bars do not contain preservatives! They are shelf stable because water has been removed
- Paul van Eijck
Agree with Mike and Heather, farmers as well as the food (processing) industry will produce what consumers want to buy.
- Paul van Eijck
Excellent comment, Mike. Sorry I jumped the gun. Cheers!
- Rob Smart
How cool is this? Heather (farmer), Mike (farmer), Paul (potato "advocate"...not sure how else to refer to you...yet) and me all agree! Farmers will follow consumer demand, and corporations will do their best to catch up. Now all we need to do is figure out the best ways to drive change to more sustainable food sooner than later!
- Rob Smart
AND give the farmers more of those dollars lickety split
- Heather Walters
hey - example (hope this isn't tactless but if it is...oh well I mean well!) - if I sold my pork to a big processor I would get $1.29 ish a #
- Heather Walters
guess how much we're getting for ours? Hanging weight? $4/#
- Heather Walters
my farm shows that cutting the middleman puts tons of money in my pocket (well in December lol until then it's touch & go hehe) rather than in some meat resellers pocket
- Heather Walters
BTW, we need to have more serious conversations on FriendFeed. This is so much better than 140-character limits on Twitter. Agreed? If so, then please publicize this group to others!
- Rob Smart
How to drive change is what my previous comment was (unsuccessfully) aiming at: you have to be precise in what kind of changes in the food supply you are aiming at. Rob, you associated in an earlier comment highly processed with high calories. I certainly do have a idea what type of foods you have in mind, but e.g. diet or low cal versions of products typically require more processing, so that's why I was pushing for more precise labels
- Paul van Eijck
Paul - I think the diet & low calorie versions are worse killers than the regular highly processed foods. But that's just me & my hippie Oregonian ways talkin ;)
- Heather Walters
I'm still hoping we can get Massa Oranics involved Greg has built an effective system even if it hasn't yet grown large. So the question is as we are removing products from our food such as transfats which were a cost reduction for secondary processors have corps adapted?
- Brett Henderson
Heather - I pass on many diet versions of products myself as well, at least at the point where the artificial sweeteners come in, but they won't kill you ;-)
- Paul van Eijck
Massa Organics rice fields are to die for. Paul - I just had this argument w my doc yesterday. She said I had slightly elev cholesterol & that I should switch to non fat everything...I said...oh really? have you read the ingreds on non fat sour cream?? NO THANKS! I will do w/o it rather than eat that junk. She looked at me like I was nuts. It was great.
- Heather Walters
Thank you Heather that was my point.
- summerkitchen
Those long lists of additives are really quite if not totally harmless compared to trans fat. So yes, go for the non fat sour cream.....
- Paul van Eijck
I can't do it LOL.
- Heather Walters
Made a Newsletter with "avoidable causes of death" recently: http://www.potatopro.com/Newslet...
- Paul van Eijck
That may change your mind...
- Paul van Eijck
But skipping it altogether is OK too of course
- Paul van Eijck
I think as Heather seems to be that we have far pushed the envelope on refinde chem ingrediants. We assume an ingrediant won't kill us because it hasn't been provem to kill us. That hasn't worked out with many products such as trans fats. Can Corp live without those items? It seems so. Developement was for price not quality. Can companys survive, I'm quite sure they can adapt just as we think the farmers can
- Brett Henderson
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I've really sworn off processed foods. I am so much more enamored of a ripe tomato as a side than rice a roni. Know what I mean? Less salt, less fat, easier...cheaper in oil impact...etc.
- Heather Walters
I still eat processed foods just less of them. One day when we are full speed at the farm maybe I'll go all the way to no processing...((and when I am not juggling a FT job, toddler & farm...))
- Heather Walters
Heather, I agree with your remark on the tomato as a side. But remember processed foods does not HAVE to be salty, fatty etc although today many are. That's why we should not make "highly processed" just another word for too salt, too fat, too high in calories, energy guzzler etc.
- Paul van Eijck
hmm highly processed foodlike substances with no nutritional value? :)
- Heather Walters
Is anyone of you also old enough to remember when we ate margarine because it was BETTER for us than butter? Science its greatest and worse asset is that it can change. What we think today based on science may be crap tomorrow. When will we test for safety first?
- Brett Henderson
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I remember that Brett. YUK. My mom thinks her butter substitute is better than real butter & she drinks powdered milk to get no fat...instead of our abundant ORGANIC FREE goat milk!!?!?!?!
- Heather Walters
What is a good diet (food) for you and what is not is a continuously moving target and this will be true for many more decades. Still, I suggest we keep eating at least SOMETHING while nutritionists and many others chip away at that question. But it wouldn't hurt if gov's would put in a bit more money in this kind of research.
- Paul van Eijck
Re Paul's remark on "processed food does not have to be fatty & salty" - I've been cogitating about how to hit the "bacon joy button" w/ vegetables an not-much-fat-or-salt. So far, garlic is my best friend.
- Michaele Maurer
Heather: and that's the thing - pasture-fed animals have less cholesterol in their milk and meat than grainfed feedlot animals
- Michaele Maurer
Hi everyone. My experience leads me to attempt to imagine the reality of a non-highly processed food world -- without the constraints of how to get from here to there. So, it's all gone; the whole known infrastructure that supports that food paradigm -- yet people feed themselves well, have choice and variety. Ag production, processing, transportation and distribution of food are...
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- Lisa PIAZZA
Dinner is called may be back later. Good evening if I don't make it.
- Brett Henderson
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Lisa, How much of the land now taken up by Big Corn, Big Soy, Big Grain would be turned over to biofuel crops?
- Michaele Maurer
this discussion is fascinating!!
- Heather Walters
Heather, Michaele - Based on health considerations I drink skim milk (avoid trans, less fat, less calories). This also takes the cholesterol out of the milk.
- Paul van Eijck
Paul - there is another way of thinking about CLAs & grass based milk/ meat etc based on Weston A Price's research many years ago. Tis why you see the furor over bacon, coconut oil, lard, full fat pastured milk, pastured eggs, etc. Also eatwild.com has a big page on it...v long, but so intersting.... http://www.eatwild.com/healthb...
- Heather Walters
You can also google Traditional Foods, Sally Fallon, Weston A Price etc... these are the no processing/ eat it as God intended kinda people. Although I don't think all of us go as far as fermenting beet kvass for a refreshing tonic, we do agree that highly processed foods are unhealthy AND take precious limited resources of oil & energy.
- Heather Walters
Paul, if I'm unclear just shout. I'm running on limited sleep & recovering from a nasty migraine so my brain feels awkard tonight lol.
- Heather Walters
Michaele - my gut sense is that Big Biofuel is not a viable use of land; some local/regional use by ag makes sense. How would Big Grain production/consumption be different in the new model is a good question. Are quantities fundamentally different or quality and method?
- Lisa PIAZZA
Michaile Maurer, I have heard assumptions that it would take as much as 70% of cropland to produce enough fuel. With that said, I also dont completly believe that ethanol is the answer, there is several researches going on about Algea making oil, and converting pig manure directly into fuel. I think when we finnally figure out how to live in a world without oil while being an environmenatal steward (wow, could it happen??) we will all be surprised at how we did it!
- Mike Haley
Lisa, how would "big" grain be different? well assuming that no more corn was processed (not all corn would be highly processed though) then corn producers would loose 10% of its market, not a huge offset considering we may be using more for fuel. With soybeans I am not sure, alot of the oil would probrably loose its demand, but these acres could easily be shifted to wheat, corn, oats, and other products.
- Mike Haley
happy discussing all. I am hitting the hay now.
- Mike Haley
It would be interesting to do a new "grain map" . . . good night Mike
- Lisa PIAZZA
I am not in the biofuel camp. I think there are too many problems to overcome. Personally (remember, I'm an opinionated red head from Oregon so...) I think that Americans need to cut their umbilical cord to Walmart & stop wasting plastics, and food, and gas, and electricity. We could make a huge difference with a few smart changes. Granted my opinions don't solve the oil problems...but...
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- Heather Walters
Heather - Seen all that. And I prefer to see the animals in a pasture too. But how almost everyone promoting organic talks about CLA in milk, rather than trans fats in milk, I find totally surprising.
- Paul van Eijck
Paul - I read something about trans fats not being as bad for us when they come from pastured animals...not sure where...hmmm...
- Heather Walters
Is the "easy" answer a lot willing change of personal consumptive habits and greater regionalization of "food chain" production and distribution that is also more energy efficient and less chemically dependent?
- Lisa PIAZZA
it sounds like a good place to start Lisa.
- Heather Walters
Heather - I think they all went to bed :-)
- Lisa PIAZZA
Still here!
- Paul van Eijck
But may give it up as well before too long
- Paul van Eijck
I'm fading fast :o/ but this has been constructive dialogue where nobody had to be *right* but just heard. We all have to figure out what the next steps are & if we don't hash it out amongst ourselves someone else will decide for us & we'll all be screwed lol
- Heather Walters
lol -- good night. Got a flight to catch in the morning.
- Lisa PIAZZA
Heather, trans fats and saturated fats NOT the same thing. Trans fats don't occur in nature, I don't think. You have to hydrogenate them. That takes a factory w/ a big hi-pressure steel tank & stuff.
- Michaele Maurer
Heather, thanks for your chelseagreen.com link - will peruse later.
- Michaele Maurer
M - thanks I knew there was a reason I didnt worry about them much. Tis cuz I am not eating them! Rebecca Hosking's movie is v interesting.
- Heather Walters
reading this entire chain of convo with relish...also basking in the sunlight of being called a prophet over at fair food fight...http://www.fairfoodfight.com/blog...
- Zachary Adam Cohen
Zach, I think your head just got bigger on your avatar! LoL
- Mike Haley
Sorry I missed so much. Great question, great conversations. I've been thinking about such a question for years and it's clear many are on the same wavelength. As I increase my organic gardens I'm more aware of every day food items I use (such as cereal and dairy products) and think of what I can grow to replace it, or how I can adjust to doing without. I feel incredibly lucky that I'm...
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- Lo Thamm of North100
It will go away quickly with the rapid realization of health and relationship benefits. Just keep this up, please. I, for one, plan to be a living example of how what you do benefits me. Others will ask me how I did it. It's viral.
- ZEBRAFINCH
So, to answer the question, if processed food went away, new jobs replacing those need to go into profood type work. How to engineer that? Are we ready? Can we synchronize something that historically developed more organically (pun)? That is, can we create the basket to catch the fallout from the loss of processed foods, and thereby change "change"?
- ZEBRAFINCH
Finally, what would happen if processed foods went away is such a huge chain reaction of relationship, community, time, space, environment and health that society itself would be unrecognizable. In a good way. This can actually be done.
- ZEBRAFINCH
great comments zebra....whats your twitter handle just for introduction purposes?
- Zachary Adam Cohen
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On tomato as a side - but a brown rice/orzo pilaf from scratch is pretty tasty if made with broth and garden herbs!
- Liz McLellan
Tonido - Privacy and Online Freedom from third-party servers | Personal Web Applications and Private P2P Network | Tonido - http://www.tonido.com/
There are many share-your-stuff-over-the-web apps or servers, and I've really only used one or two, but this seems, at first impression, very well done.
- Dan Overlander
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Epic and 3D Buzz Expand Mastering Unreal Technology Series (via feedly) - http://www.beyondunreal.com/view_st...
I used the 3D Buzz book for UT2004 and got many miles out of it.
- Dan Overlander
RIBA robo-bear ready to displace human nursing staff | DVICE - http://dvice.com/archive...
Robo-Pedobear!
- Dan Overlander
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Should You Really Not Share Your iPod Playlist? - http://www.geeksugar.com/4313529
Best line in the article: "Well, duh"
- Dan Overlander
Epic: KFC Has A Bacon Sandwich That Uses Fried Chicken As "Bread" - http://consumerist.com/5342699...
While I'm sure it tastes delicious, I will only imagine how horribly unhealthy it is...
- Dan Overlander
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I'm looking for a few google voice invites...anybody?
I don't see where in the interface it has a Send Invitation function... :(
- Dan Overlander
Oh maybe it's not like gmail was...dang.
- Ron Wening
hmmm - quick search on FF brings this up: http://ff.im/6Jr7y .... but thebotnet.com doesn't sound too trustworthy, does it?
- Sean O'Brien
Bit the bullet & trying out yet another app: FriendFeed to join the #ProFood discussions. Thx @jambutter
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welcome!
- Zachary Adam Cohen
from email
HI Lo!
- Renee Martin
Great to have you here.
- Neal Foley
Hello - thank you everyone for the warm welcome. I'm excited about the #ProFood conversation but feel a little clumsy yet with this app. I'll get there. Perhaps I should use this app to manage Twitter instead of Tweetdeck (good idea?). Thanks again.
- Lo Thamm of North100
I see Twitter as a convenient "thought stream" where you can catch headlines, but FriendFeed is much, much better for conversations. Hopefully now that (even though) FF has been bought by Facebook, it'll continue being what it's always been...
- Dan Overlander
Ah yes, almost forgot about the whole Facebook/FF buyout (admittedly not a huge fan of facebook). Thanks Dan.
- Lo Thamm of North100
RT @winkyboy I am not afraid of raw food. I am afraid of industrial food. (via http://friendfeed.com/winkybo...) --Cheers to that!
hey, thanks for the RT out there on Twitter. I said this originally thinking how it amazes me that people are conditioned to be afraid of raw foods; eggs, milk, kombucha (I recently saw an article saying "don't drink kombucha - it's RAW" (crazy because of course it's raw). Yet they never think of the disease poor nutrition brings.
- Dan Overlander
How I got around to signing up for Plurk before friendfeed I have no idea. #backwards
"At least we still have Plurk."
- Dan Overlander
Streamy.com and SocialMedian.com seem to be the FF backup plan
- Sean O'Brien
BTW you should subscribe to everyone on the recommended sub list (http://friendfeed.com/friends...)... just to get you started.
- Sean O'Brien
4 reasons websites are becoming irrelevant - http://www.imediaconnection.com/content...
Scott liked this
Sean you just like this for the pictures of Dunkin Donuts. But in all seriousness, I like the line, "it will not be long before you are called into a meeting to discuss how AR fits into your marketing strategy."
- Dan Overlander
God help us all.
- Sean O'Brien
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