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turning up the volume because you like a song is one of the simple pleasures of life
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listening to Clean Clean by My First Earthquake - http://www.thesixtyone.com/myfirst...
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Test for Narcissism
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Love Savage Chicken :D
- martha
just found 'em. Killa stuff :D
- vijay
Stop This Train Remix - John Mayer - featuring DK aka Wayne Watts - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Evolution of Physical Oceanography
Bruce A. Warren and Carl Wunsch (Editors) | MIT OpenCourseWare - http://ocw.mit.edu/ans7870...
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"Evolution of Physical Oceanography was created to mark the career of Henry M. Stommel, the leading physical oceanographer of the 20th Century and a longtime MIT faculty member. The authors of the different chapters were asked to describe the evolution of their subject over the history of physical oceanography, and to provide a survey of the state-of-the-art of their subject as of 1980. Many of the chapters in this textbook are still up-to-date descriptions of active scientific fields, and all of them are important historical records. This textbook is made available courtesy of The MIT Press."
- Mike Chelen
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CHART OF THE DAY: Smartphone Sales To Beat PC Sales By 2011 (AAPL, MSFT) - http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-o...
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"Here's why PC giants like Apple, Dell, Microsoft, and everyone else all want a piece of the smartphone market: By the end of 2011, worldwide smartphone sales will pass worldwide PC sales, RBC analyst Mike Abramsky estimates, approaching 400 million annual shipments of each."
- Erhan Erdogan
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Social Media is Rife with “Experts” but Starved of Authorities - http://www.briansolis.com/2009...
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Soon each Firefox tab will be treated as a separate process - http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009...
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RT @VBalasubramani: "now that real piracy is back, we need a new term for copyright infringement" (RT @internetcases @sandragabriele)
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"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." Dom Helder Camara
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NYT Headlines Used To Be, Uh, Livelier - http://wonkette.com/407744...
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Free Music Archive Launches Beta, Offers 5000 Free Tracks - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
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FriendFeed certainly goes a long way to pointing out duplicated information people post on multiple networks. I know I'm guilty.
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I am guilty of this, and sometimes I am not always aware of doing it. Initially, my twitter account was attached to almost everything I did online social-networking wise. This tended to create a very confusing cross-feed. Many of the other social-networking and "lifestream" accounts I have out there are cross-connected in ways I had not intended to be permanent or exist past an initial...
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- JP Moore
When to NOT Use Social Media - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
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Sarah Perez. I'm a huge fan.
- Mona Nomura
But Don't Be Afraid to Try! on Sarah - ME TOO, BIG TIME!
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
me too
- Tracy Benham
definitely don't use social media when you want privacy
- Alfredo
Mona - Yeah Sarah is the best!
- (jeff)isageek
IMHO, she is the most underrated blogger!
- Mona Nomura
from IM
Interesting take. Love it.
- Stuart Foster
Definitely a year of experimentation and with that will come quite a few mistakes! Good post
- Robert Mattar
Awwww, Mona (thanks!)
- Sarah Perez
Sarah - I tell you ALL the time because it's the truth!
- Mona Nomura
Next time I hear "Atheism is just another form of religion", I'm going to respond "Yes, just like vegetarianism is another form of meat eating."
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HA HA! WELL said Dave!
- C.C. Chapman
Very true. Vegetarianism is another form of meat eating. To be pedantic, veganism is the term you were looking for, because that's where you avoid any foods created by, from or tainted with animal products.
- Alex Scoble
Teetotalling is another form of getting drunk
- Dave Slusher
lmao =)
- Alp
Zero is always part of a set unless you are a Roman.
- Alex Scoble
nope. the right analogy would be "vegetarianism is another form of eating". Adding "meat" to the "eating" in that analogy is just twisting it a little to fit the argument IMO.
- vijay
Completely logically incorrect but thanks for playing
- Dave Slusher
Your understanding of logic is apparently in need of an upgrade.
- Alex Scoble
Veganism is another form of carnivorism.
- Dave Slusher
The only reason I didn't say "carnivorism" originally is that it is a cumbersome, not everyday sort of word.
- Dave Slusher
simply trading one belief system for another - any "theory" that explains anything is a belief system - granted, science is more rational than mythic religions
- William Harryman
Religion is a very specific belief system that allows for the supernatural. Atheism is a very specific belief system that does not allow for the supernatural. They are disjoint sets. Trying to fudge semantics on this point will be unproductive.
- Dave Slusher
Religion is a specific belief system agreed to and adhered to by a group of individuals. It does not need to encompass the supernatural. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse...
- Alex Scoble
It's just like how anarchy is a form of government. The null form.
- Alex Scoble
So the correction to the original statement should be "Atheism is just another form of belief system"
- Robert Kenney
Yes Robert.
- vijay
How can X = 'absence of X'? In what logic system?
- Bora Zivkovic
X can always = 0
- Alex Scoble
OTOH, it's unfortunate that atheism/agnosticism doesn't get the same legal protections of conscience that religions do, at least in the US.
- LogEx
If religious belief was 0, then atheism would be 0 as well. But since religious belief is certainly non-0 but a certain value of X, then atheism cannot be X as well, since it is not-X or 'absence of X'
- Bora Zivkovic
I think what matters is what the definition of religion is. If religion equals "world view", then yes, I guess atheism fits that bill.
- Meryn Stol
Religion is expressed through rituals, prayers ecc. for this reason Atheism can't be defined as religion.
- Manuela
I also like to see atheists take a seat at the "interfaith" table. That is, those atheists who have at least faith in something, like the ability to better ourselves.
- Meryn Stol
That is a dangerous conflation of two different dictionary definitions of the word "faith".
- Bora Zivkovic
Religion doesn't need to be expressed through rituals or prayers, you can't put your religious framework as THE definition of what a religion is. Religion is simply a belief system. That is all.
- Alex Scoble
Wikipedia says about religion: "A religion is an organized approach to human spirituality which usually encompasses a set of narratives, symbols, beliefs and practices, often with a supernatural or transcendent quality, that give meaning to the practitioner's experiences of life through reference to a higher power or truth." In that sense, no, atheism is really NOT a religion. :)
- Meryn Stol
To believe that the universe was created out of random chance and that there is no god is still a belief system. To believe nothing is still to believe in something.
- Alex Scoble
my thoughts related to this - http://beta.friendfeed.com/browney...
- vijay
I belong to the "unicorns don't exist" religion
- Alejandro
@alex basically, anything you follow.. religiously. It's where the term came from ;)
- alphaxion
"To believe that the universe was created out of random chance and that there is no god is still a belief system." NOT! It is not in any way akin to religious (blind) belief. It is the understanding of the world as it is, not belief in whatever parents or preachers say no matter how far removed from reality, for the sake of group cohesion, a.k.a., differentiation between in-group and out-group, which is what religion is.
- Bora Zivkovic
Wouldn't it be better to drop the term "atheism" and instead state that you're "not religious"? That would be much clearer I think.
- Meryn Stol
People believing in god don't have to be religious. if they don't belong to any religion they are theists.
- Alejandro
That is what the word means: a+theism. It's not my fault that the religionists managed to frame it negatively.
- Bora Zivkovic
I 'got' the post, found it funny, understand the point, am now moving on.
- Aaron Macom
Your understanding of belief as blind is incorrect and too narrow. As is most people's definition of religion. To say that an atheist doesn't believe anything is to completely ignore how the human brain HAS to function in order for US to function. Without belief there is no way a self aware being can survive.
- Alex Scoble
Alex, I'd say that having beliefs is not the same as being religious.
- Meryn Stol
belief and religion are not the same
- Alejandro
That is a dangerous conflation of two different dictionary definitions of the word "belief"
- Bora Zivkovic
Alejandro, actually it is. People have a word for it - "faith".
- vijay
no it's not
- Alejandro
BELIEF: something believed; an opinion or conviction. RELIGION: a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
- Alejandro
That is, again, a dangerous conflation of two different dictionary definitions of the word "faith".
- Bora Zivkovic
@Alex I got your point but I still think that there's no religion without practice; you can believe in God or in Ceiling Cat but your personal feeling doesn't make you a religious person. Religion is a shared knowledge
- Manuela
All "religions" have a set of prayers, rituals, beliefs, etc. Atheism is a non-belief in a higher-power. Agnosticism is a question of whether there is a higher power. Not religious can encompass both Agnosticism as well as Atheism. But Agnostics can sometimes participate in "religion" like an inter-faith service. However, there are two distinct types of Athiests. One is really more of a satanic "religion" than a non-belief......
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Correct, Manuela. Individual belief in God is spiritualism in some sense. Religion is always a collective, group endeavor as the main purpose of religion is differentiating the in-group from out-group: who is with us who is 'gainst us: http://www.amazon.com/Darwins...
- Bora Zivkovic
....True Athiests actually do not take part in ANY faith-based activity, reject the notion of a higher power, and are more often than not pretty docile and kind people. I am more in-between Atheist and Agnostic. Atheism is not a religion really, it's a lack of a religion.
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Hey, I am an atheist, and a vocal one to boot, and I am hosting a Seder tomorrow. Dawkins celebrates Christmas. When properly secularized, the old religious traditions can be quite pleasant.
- Bora Zivkovic
Lindsay, agree on both notes :)
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
@Mike: "satanic religion"? how? I'm curious. :)
- Alejandro
@Bora yep, and they also make the economy go round
- Manuela
If you have to broaden the definition of "religion" to "any arbitrary belief system" in order to disprove my original post, then the word has no actual meaning anymore.
- Dave Slusher
@Alejandro Church of Satan http://www.churchofsatan.com
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
There is a reason why everything I'm saying is as short as possible and with the simplest language possible. I'm trying to pin this down without wiggle room, and a lot of people persist is trying to wiggle nonetheless.
- Dave Slusher
Ummm... Many/Most Buddhists are atheists. I'm Buddhist, but I hold the question of whether or not there's a God as more or less irrelevant in my daily life. So I guess that makes me a religious agnostic? And yes, Buddhism is actually a religion.
- Chrimmus Tad
I'm an Atheist and I love when someone asks me if I believe in/worship the devil. LOL
- BEX
@tad buddhists can't be atheistic because they still have a set of rituals and dogma they follow *religiously*. Lack of belief in a god does not equate to atheisim. Personally I don't think anyone can be a true atheist due to the fact that it would require the total absense of any philosophy in order to purge out theistic practices. If anything, buddhism closely matches my own belief more than any other, but I still reject even their practices.
- alphaxion
The word Atheist means someone who doesn't believe in God, right? No religion is not the same as Atheist. You can believe in God, but have no religion and not be an Atheist. Unless I'm horribly confused.
- Chrimmus Tad
Seems to me the whole point of religion is to create the space where X can indeed equal NOT X. (I usually find it pretty hard to continue the conversation when that little tidbit surfaces.) @Dave, it's also been said "atheism is a religion like not collecting stamps is a hobby" :) (More of this topic all the time over here: http://beta.friendfeed.com/aasfshn...) <-- is that shameless or what?
- Edward Zwart
Atheism is a lack of belief in unprovable (by definition unprovable, not 'yet-unproven but potentially provable') concepts, which in most religions (not Buddhism) includes a belief in God.
- Bora Zivkovic
After reading this, does anybody else want a hamburger and then wash it down with a nice glass of holy water?
- Derek Coward
as dave knows already but i'll share for others, i am a catholic vegetarian snowboarder who freely associates with and tolerates the eating habits, opinions, beliefs and lack there of of almost all folks i come across in my life - except for skiers of course, so pls don't let me ever hear you say that "snowboarding is just another form of skiing" - lol, lighten up folks :-p
- mike "glemak" dunn
@Mike: if they were atheist they wouldn't believe in Satan either.
- Alejandro
Virginity is a form of sexual behavior, though.
- Dossy Shiobara
Oh: How is atheism not a form of religion? If you had actual proof of atheism's correctness, that would be one thing - but, as any religion, atheists believe based on faith that their theory of God's existance (or lack thereof) is true. Atheism is just a step above cult following, really.
- Dossy Shiobara
@dossy atheism isn't a belief. it's not a claim of anything (never mind any correctness), it's the rejection of all theistic creations in all their forms. It's the equiv of stucking your fingers in your ears, closing your eyes & singing "lalalala". Most atheists just carry on their lives & observe nothing spiritual. Some will celebrate their lack of faith, but in my eyes anyone that visibly celebrates their lack of faith, displays faith. By showing you are atheistic, you no longer are. A new quantum kitty?
- alphaxion
This has well crossed my threshold of what I can keep up with. I'm doubling down on my original statement but addressing bad logic is way more work then good. Obfuscators - mission accomplished!
- Dave Slusher
One particular philosophy of the several labeled 'atheism' is equivalent to a religion (the assertion, as an article of faith without proof, that there is no god). There are milder forms that make non-religious assertions (ie. that there is no proof for the existence of god, and asserting the unreasonableness of believing in something without proof, while acknowledging that proving a negative assertion is inherently impossible). Also, agnosticism often gets lumped in as well.
- Michael R. Bernstein
If nothing else, the thread has gotten bizarrely interesting. It's like watching a train wreck. Who'd think that making an assertion about having a lack of belief in the supernatural would be this controversial? So much for our evil genius just leaving us with a gentle "Thought For The Day"...
- Ken Kennedy
Excuse me Madam, but does this bus go to the station.
- Henry Gee
Yes! (And for that I'll follow)
- Christian (Simply X)
Vegetables are the other white meat.
- Jim Norris
All you guys are wrong, as proven by my counterexample that having a love for science and technology is simply another way of being a luddite.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Personally, I think the whole question is pointless. I'm Apatheist... Whether there's a space man up there watching me or not, it's up to me to make things happen for me in my life and take responsibility for my actions and situation. The time and energy arguing about what religion is or not and which one is the right one could be spent to so much more productive purposes. I don't have a problem with people practicing religion because they need it as long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of others.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
atheism = a non-prophet organisation
- Jens Christian Freund
To quote somebody or other, "If atheism is a religion, then not playing chess is a hobby".
- Richard Carter, FCD
This reminds me that the framing of religious people as "people of faith" bothers me, as it assumes atheists as lacking faith of any kind.
- Eric Berlin
Still like the old, "if atheism is a religion then bald is a hair color."
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Atheism depends first of all on your definition of Theism. The very first Christians were once considered Atheists by the pagan religious mainstream of their day. Not much has changed, really. Same religious mainstream, with a surface layering of monotheism, but essentially the same as the pagan days. Or hasn't anyone guessed that the Trinity is a hedge bet sitting between polytheism and monotheism? A good honest atheist isn't that bad.
- George Hall (Australia)
I've never heard that one, but I can see why it would be frustrating. Atheism is a statement about God, but that doesn't make it a religion.
- Richard Klein
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Let's get some use from the unwanted traction of this post. If you are driving distance of Myrtle Beach SC, there will be a panel on using new media in your church at CREATE South http://www.createsouth.org/ April 25th. If you disagree with my stance, come attend that panel and tell me in person how wrong I am. I'll be easy to find.
- Dave Slusher
LOL. Dave I think you just invented "Controversy & Confrontational Marketing"
- Paul Reynolds
lol paul - i like it ccm (not the hockey company) :-p
- mike "glemak" dunn
I'm at least 25 years too late for that.
- Dave Slusher
And I believe I'm going to be making the definition of "driving distance" about 1600 miles.
- J Wynia
You heard the man. Y'all have NO EXCUSE!
- Dave Slusher
Here, let me sum up and contrast my definitions: A belief in the (unprovable) lack of god is religious, while a lack of belief in an (unprovable) god is not. These are very different, but unfortunately both positions get labeled as 'atheism', and both can be described as 'not believing in god'.
- Michael R. Bernstein
Cleaner FriendFeed (New Beta) - 04/06/09 | userstyles.org - http://userstyles.org/styles...
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Changelog: -- removed the grey background -- removed the bar background and made it subtle -- some font size changes -- some spacing adjustments -- select text background changed
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
from Bookmarklet
* Cleaner and cool look and feel (FriendFeed is already clean, this makes it a lot cleaner) * Different font style * Highlights friends comments with baby yellow (instantly know that the user is already your friend) * Highlights your comments with baby blue (it’s cool to see your own comments from river of comments. Looks good when you are a distance away your computer, makes your...
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- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
yay!
- mjc
This userstyle brings the FriendFeed conversation to another level by instantly letting you know… 1) Your own comment (Powder Blue) 2) Your friends comments (Light Yellow) 3) Your non-friends comments (Normal FriendFeed Comment Color) 4) Likes (Light Pink)
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
As FriendFeed becomes popular, you’ll definitely need some kind of instant and attention grabbing color that catches your eyes and tell you where you left off in a conversation. Hope you like it.
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
Well THAT didn't take long.
- teh Dork Knight aka Kenny
MUCH better :-)
- andy brudtkuhl
Nice AJ. I'm considering installing Chrome v2 just to use this Greasemonkey script. You fixed all the UI nitpicks I have. :D
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Now I have to move over to FireFox?
- Uncle CW™
Congrats aj.
- Alp
you legend. :)
- Zee.
THANK YOU!
- Rochelle
Installed and liking... wish the font was a tad bigger but I can adjust that :)
- Bwana ☠
could you block the logo also?
- mjc
installing - lovely- although there is something in having the "main area" diff. from the rest of the screen as in the original design - must play and see what works better for me
- Naor Mark
That's much better, thanks AJ
- Sally Church
Good work!
- Rich
i like colour isn't too much white hard on your eyes
- Damian Holmes
mjc, it won't look good. but you can use this (#logo img { display:none !important; })
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
That looks much better! Maybe the FF devs can adopt that scheme.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
really clean and cool.
- Jansen Lu
That was fast man!
- JazJaz
wow thanks aj
- Alfredo
that looks much better
- RAPatton
thank U
- Andrea | amnesiak1978
agreed...should have been this way from the start :)
- Nick
Damn, AJ...fast work! Awesome as usual! :)
- JA Castillo
great - hate the grey!
- Gaby K. Slezák
thank U
- Andrea | amnesiak1978
wow that was fast... I don't mind the gray, but this is a nice option for those complainers who don't
- Nathan Chase
Switched already and I'm lovin' this script - much nicer!
- Sally Church
I cleaned it up further. If you've downloaded it already, edit and change this line (.bar {border:none !important; background:none !important;background-color:#C8DCF5 !important;}) ;) much better without those borders on bars ;)
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
(too lazy for looking up the line - re-installed :)
- Naor Mark
Same as Naor, but yeah it is nicer :-)
- Sally Church
this is fantastic - loving life with a #112 body :)
- Christopher Galtenberg
Wow AJ, nice job. I hope FF takes notice.
- Andrew Smith
AJ that was fast!
- Susan Beebe
Much better AJ!
- AJ Kohn
Wow. Nice. Thank you!
- Ken Sheppardson
I can't tell... are you mimicking the effect of the little yellow halo around the comment bubble when it's inserted into a page you're viewing? Ah... there it is... the halo's still there. Might be nice to have the entire comment's color fade. Skill Level 2.0 ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Thanks AJ!
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
I love the comment HIGHLIGHT COLORS - blue = mine :) Friends = yellow = cool!!! thanks
- Susan Beebe
@Susan Wasn't that apart of the beta already?
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
@Shey, nope.
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
Wow, this style is gorgeous! Blows the default beta away. Still no fan of fixed-width but if devs go with this style and the new functionality, it's enough win for me.
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@robot, here's one for you -> Widescreen version (http://beta.friendfeed.com/ajbatac...) or fluid/liquid
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
Widescreen...for...the....WIN
- Bwana ☠
I do wish links were in a different colour or <strong>
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
How cool is this!
- Charlie Anzman
WOW tnx I love it
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
this is great. thanks!
- Peter van Teeseling
Made it use Segoe UI pt 11, and looks much better :D
- Yuvi
This is much more visually appealing. You rock!
- Justin Whitaker
I really like this. Thank you, good sir.
- Brandon Ball
OMG AJ, this is SO MUCH better! Thank you!
- Phil G
Someone make this a sticky. :)
- JazJaz
That's way better! Thanks a bunch :)
- Maryam Ardakani
Awesome AJ! But what took you so long?
- Edward Zwart
♥♥♥♥♥ Thanks!!
- Alix Whitmire
I switched to Firefox just to use your layout - it helps.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
AJ - Would you give permission to FF bosses to just steal your setup and implement it? It's just a whole lot nicer.
- Matthew DeVries
free to modify, free to whatever you want to do with it. ;)
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
hey dude you got mentioned in the read write web http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
- Alfredo
@alfredo, Thanks.
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
Thank you, thank you, thank you! This is wonderful in FireFox
- Anthony K. Valley ©
Thank you, AJ, you rock!
- Michelle Martinez
Awesome!! I'm using it right now.
- Mark Layton
Gosh, that's better, thanks for the Beta FF version - I've been used CleanerFF since using FF.
- Kol Tregaskes
This is VERY nice. Well done!
- Tony
@wiredryo You really like colors? I find them distracting and cheap-looking. Just my style though, maybe. I like minimalism.
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WOO-HOO! Now THAT is more like it!
- Steven Perez
So much better. Thanks! <3
- ♥patricia♥
That's wonderful. Thank you!
- joey
Even cleaner without avatars in the feed: http://userstyles.org/styles...
- Meryn Stol
Really enjoying the Cleaner FF. By the popularity of this thread, I'm assuming many are not really happy with the gray background and colored sidebar boxes.
- Ricardo Vidal
I personally have not much trouble with the new color scheme. Try removing the avatars, they are really noisy. Just try to experience the difference.
- Meryn Stol
colored and + fontsized the post titles, as i prefer to catch the posts rather then the comments, it really works.
- Yunus Tunak
AJ - Could you maybe make one that moves the filters and subscriptions over to the left side, turns off the real time, makes the avatars disappear and replace them with icons showing what service provided the post. Maybe as a finishing touch add the ability to post things to our rooms/groups?
- Matthew DeVries
http://beta.friendfeed.com/ for new look
- Yunus Tunak
Feels so much better.
- Valley
Application error (Apache) Change this error message for exceptions thrown outside of an action (like in Dispatcher setups or broken Ruby code) in public/500.html :(
- Helen Sventitsky
I changed the background for #f8f8fc because it doesn't look as good when it's just as white as the main column. Having it an off-white like that is a lot nicer. Just a suggestion.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Also, I turned off highlighting of friend comments (although not my own) because you all chat too much. :)
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
this is awesome. thanks so much!
- Karoli
great! i disliked beta's grey background. :-)
- browneyes
Much better! I don't mind the constant flow, but wasn't a fan of the new design.
- Vince DeGeorge
Done. and loving it. Thanks AJ!
- Dave
AJ, you da man! I like it very much. :)
- imabonehead
I tweaked it so all it really did was get rid of the gray background, but left the font sizes and colors alone. Now it looks REALLY good to me. Will screenshot it now. Thanks, AJ!
- Josh Haley
Using this now... soooo much better! :D
- Brandon
i love it! :)
- pm10
love it! seems better!
- Business Blogger【ツ】™
very nice, thanks :D
- PaperDoll
wow, just installed this, way better!
- Marcos Marado
I agree! I think I like this much better. The Gray background was getting to me.
- Kreg Steppe
Still prefer the post options from the 'old' freindfeed interface - they were out front & more available for on-the-fly, intuitive changing
- awd
@Aaron, I like the new one better. ;)
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
Great job, AJ. Soooo much better. I hope that FF notices that we like their original clean design better and incorporate it into beta again so that I don't need a script for this.
- Carmen
<too lazy to read through the comments> if you're using stylish, but aren't crazy about the Trebuchet MS font, go to Tools > Stylish > Manage Styles. Select "Cleaner FriendFeed" and click the Edit button. Go to line 8 and remove "Trebuchet MS" from the font-family declaration (font-family:"Trebuchet MS","Arial","Serif" !important;)</too lazy to read through the comments>
- tiffany
Updated: For widescreen monitors (http://userstyles.org/styles...) / Normal width (http://userstyles.org/styles...)
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
Beta Friendfeed Helvetica Edition - http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Burak Dönertaş
Why is it that FriendFeed's critics are some of the most active people on the site?
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Because change sucks for most?
- Josh Haley
They want to make the site they love better? :)
- Andrew
Who better to give the harsh criticism than the people who have spent the most time here and know the app the best?
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Because the people who are the most active are more likely to run into usability hurdles?
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
hey, you weren't exactly praising it early on. just a matter of getting used to. i like it
- Cee Bee
I saw similar for the old design though. It's not for everyone, and I think people need to realize that.
- Jesse Stay
They use it the most and therefore, have the most opinions and ideas?
- Rochelle
Cee, earlier today, or earlier on a year or two ago? Today I made it clear I was sick and grumpy, but also that I was trying to give constructive criticism. Frankly, I love the new move - it just has a few things that would make it better. I do find I'm using it more than Twitter today though.
- Jesse Stay
Because FriendFeed attracts vocal misanthropes? ;)
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
I was just thinking the same thing, Jesse. What I'd really like to see is a graph that plots level of sat/dis-sat with the new design vs. number of followers, number of subscriptions, and followers to subscriptions ratio.
- Ken Sheppardson
Maybe because they care :)
- Bindu Reddy
That's how we roll
- Rodfather
Ken, sounds like a great GreaseMonkey script - classify the mood of each post, and have a backend script that tracks followers/following, number of posts, etc along w/ the mood
- Jesse Stay
Bingo Bindu. People who criticise do so because they care. That's why it's important to listen and not dismiss.
- Erik K Veland
Bump Bindu, speaking of criticism, why can't I "bump" a comment up yet??
- Ryan Petty
for they are used to the old version
- kang
Q - Why is it that FriendFeed's critics are some of the most active people on the site? A - Because they are master-beta testers.
- Rex Hammock
don't misunderstand my stance against what Friendfeed is trying to do with the real-time display in the beta. I get real-time but it has to be at a speed that the human brain can absorb in a very short space of time - blink of an eye x the number of entries on a page type of time..........
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I seriously think they need to consider a two pane approach :) One side has entries and the other side has entries that have been commented on.
- Shawn Farner
not the flood that literally flows almost every second. You can't even hope to absorb *anything* of value at that speed. At least with the previous refresh rate you could
- Steven Hodson
+1 Steven and Shawn
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Steven, the trick might be to simply limit your view (with a filter) to anything that has more than an "x" number of comments or likes.
- Meryn Stol
good idea for sometimes, Meryn.
- Kamilah Gill
@Meryn I've been hearing this argument all day and I keep coming back to the original starting point of why? especially when they had a perfectly good workable solution with the auto-refresh on the page. Why do we need to change our workflow to satisfy their design idea and center it around a feature that I would bet very few people even used when it was made available.
- Steven Hodson
Steven, I can understand your feelings.. I'm just trying to be constructive here. I do not control the design! What about pausing the feed? You could easily add an auto-refresh with a Firefox add-on I think.
- Meryn Stol
How about giving the user the ability to set the refresh rate? e.g. 1, 3, 5, or 10 minute intervals.
- Paul
@Meryn I know you are trying to be constructive and maybe I've been a little overly cranky about this but it really pisses me off when people say that we should just put up or shut up and get use to to it. Not a fucking chance in hell ... when I think that something that worked really well is being screwed with to the detriment of the user experience I'm going to say so .. and my argument about the 'Pause' option is still the same as the RT discussion
- Steven Hodson
That's been my suggestion (and other's) as well, Paul. The choice doesn't have to be realtime or stop.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
@Paul .. I could live with that .. that would be an acceptable proposal as it would make the real-time feed accessible to *the user* at a speed that they could handle.
- Steven Hodson
I completely agree.
- Corvida
In any case, we should give the team a chance to respond to user feedback. The beta has only been public for a few hours. :)
- Meryn Stol
Maybe your following more people then me, but I haven't had a constant stream of new post since the beta first launched.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
@Mathew I follow around 500 people which for some might seem like a lot but I would suggest that for a large percentage of FF users this is a low number and if I am see this tsunami of updates I can only imagine the torrent other must be seeing
- Steven Hodson
I only follow around 200, and yet real-time moves faster than I can follow. Even if I trimmed down below the Dunbar limit it'd be too much for a lot of people. Real-time might work for some people, but for most of us 25+ folks, it's too much too quickly. We really need to have a slower auto-refresh like FF 1.0 offers.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
@Meryn On the idea of auto-refresh: 1. Only good for Firefox users. 2. If you take a while composing a comment or post, Refresh Every might just kill it with its automatic refresh; FF adding JavaScript to refresh on intervals can pause the timer if you're in a form field. 3. Refresh Every is essentially dead; no updates since 2007, it doesn't handle tabs all that well, doesn't remember pages you want it to automatically refresh, and only supports Firefox 3.1 if you know how to disable max version checking.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
It is not an acceptable substitute.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Maybe some brain exercise is required. :)
- Louis Gray
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Do you find that people are engaging you less on FriendFeed? I have noticed that since lists and rooms have come in, people seem to notice me far less in the past.
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This has resulted in me engaging less...it's beginning to feel like a downward spiral.
- Chris Nixon
LOL. Cheers Rahsheen!
- Chris Nixon
Chris, consider yourself engaged!
- Derrick
I agree. There is less interaction and less activity on the main feed.
- Baard @ Pixum
I don't use rooms at all really. I've never been able to really figure that aspect of FF out.
- Thomas Hawk
Oh good, I'm not the only one noticing this... meaning it's not just me :-/
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
Yup, decline in usage for me personally... I think it's more of a time thing for me rather than FriendFeed itself
- Bwana ☠
All the people that are agreeing are engaging a LOT. Way more than I have over the last week.
- Chris Nixon
This is a bit of a catch-22 question? Anyone who answers is proving the theory wrong. Meanwhile for me, I've not noticed a decline, but then there was never much activity on my posts to begin with.
- Andy Roth
I've noticed it too but assumed the problem was me. In the same period my Twitter interaction and interest has gone up tho.
- Sally Church
I've been here less due to life intruding, but I'm trying to get back into my FF groove because ya'll make me happy =)
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I think lists had a lot to do with it, but so do economic pressures. When it feels like there are money issues, people are choosing to be more productive elsehwere.
- Louis Gray
That is a very good point Louis. People just have more important things to do at the moment.
- Chris Nixon
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On my feed I've seen a lot more people get involved, more likes and more comments. So from that point of view I'd say the opposite. Even looking at the best of each day you see the number of comments and likes has dramatically gone up since I started using FF proper. As for rooms they've never been that busy from what I've seen but they are slowly growing. So I guess I'm the only one who will disagree with this?
- Kol Tregaskes
Oh, while I'm here, there are lots of reason while Robert Scoble has lots of followers but one reason I noticed yesterday was that he is top of the recommendations when you set up a new FF account. And this page is one of the first pages you see after starting with FF. I bet that helps a lot. Perhaps the recommendations for new starters should be a random selection of active users. The list looked more like the most followed to me.
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol: I think you are a special case. You have put A LOT of work into adding content and commenting. Time which the vast majority of people just don't have. I'm lucky if I can spend an hour on FF each day.
- Chris Nixon
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I'm not convinced it's just traffic, it feels like folk interact less as well....though I could be a bit chicken & egg here.
- Threepwood
More people = dilution of activity on your feed. With the lack of a large user base, the only people we had to talk to were each other. You add a whole bunch of people into the party, we have more people to talk to. I'm talking to heaps more people, but alas, it may be at the expense of people I use to. Spend some time in the Everyone tab, sub to interesting people and broaden your base...
- Johnny Worthington
FF shares the same problem with Twitter: too much people, too much noise.
- Jordi Soler
I think it is definitely true - but I also noticed that I had stopped friending new, interesting people in the last month or so. Your comment inspired me to reverse that trend :)
- Jennifer Dittrich
Absolutely I've noticed this. Info overload, perhaps
- Sarah Perez
check out these stats http://siteanalytics.compete.com/plurk... No of unique visitors to friendfeed is actually increasing - so there should be more chatter here.
- Elizabeth Koh
I noticed too, about a week or too ago. Thought it was just me and my lack of anything interesting to say. Interesting it is more community-wide.
- Martha
Elizabeth - the velocity graph shows a bit of a different story. May explain why people feel there is less interaction: http://siteanalytics.compete.com/plurk...
- Hutch Carpenter
I will add though, that every site waxes and wanes. Things will pick up, and I do think economy is sapping some of the energy and spirit.
- Hutch Carpenter
Yes...
- JA Castillo
I'm rather "new", but I don't see much activity (and I don't fake follow).
- coldbrew
Chris, sorry if I've confused you. I wasn't talking about my activity on FF I was talking about activity on my feed by other users. Activity on my feed (i.e. not me but others on my feed) appears to be generally interesting and so does the best of page.
- Kol Tregaskes
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