Hmmm - I've got 34 rooms and they show up just fine - you have a lot more than that? I haven't used Groups yet - so that's a difference. Hopefully Robin will see this thread soon and have some input ...
- Patrick Jordan
Zee, I am the developer of BuddyFeed. It seems you have a lot of subscriptions and the size of your profile data is 2M. It may take some time to get the information for the first time. You may need to try to keep buddyfeed open for a while to get your profile downloaded. If you still have problems, please let me know.
- Robin Lu
BuddyFeed was decent, but a little underwhelming & buggy when I initially purchased it. But this update takes it prime-time... it's now far superior to using the web interface in Safari. I *do* wish it would allow landscape mode, but that's one of my only remaining complaints.
- Roger Benningfield
I'll try that again: I'm finding BuddyFeed to be a more preferable way of looking at FF than the real-time web UI...
- Brad Brooks
from BuddyFeed
+1 on landscape mode, particularly when viewing actual web pages. Don't know why so few apps seem to support it.
- Grey Drane
And yeah, I've noticed that some of my feeds are taking a while to load first time. On "Likes", for example, I had to tap "Load more" 3-4 times before anything showed up, but most others worked after just 1 or 2 taps.
- Grey Drane
BuddyFeed is good, but I still find it confusing with Rooms, Groups and Lists....
- Baard @ Pixum
Is it too much to ask for a Blackberry version of BuddyFeed? Hello? *taps on monitor screen*
- Ms_Krista
Something I haven't been able to discover is, does Buddyfeed support some kind of offline mode? That's one reason I use Nambu during my commute. It will download and cache, and I can still access Friendfeed content when I hit a data dead spot.
- Andy Bold
no, it doesn't, Andy. In fact if you're typing something and click "post" and lose your connection (which happens unacceptably often here in coastal LA with ATT), you will also lose the post.
- Anthony Citrano
I've looked at this before and wondered if it was worth $3. I'm very...uh...frugal.
- Vaughn
from iPod
it's a cool app; I like it and bought it and use it for several months now. it crashes occasionally and has the issue I mentioned above, but overall I think it's a really good app.
- Anthony Citrano
Cool, but I am not paying 2.99 for it.
- Zachary TG
Hard for me to tell why this is better than just using the web version.
- Herb Hernandez
I've tried several FF iPhone apps and not been terribly impressed by any. I'll make this my last one (previous include Nambu & AlertThingy)
- CannonGod
Meh. I still prefer the iPhone web version.
- Adi
from BuddyFeed
I downloaded this yesterday & really like it so far. Much better than the iPhone web version.
- Vaughn
from IM
agree. just got buddyfeed and am happy. still need to go back and forth with facebook though. updates quickly and is stable on 3g iPhone.
- Carey Lumeng
from BuddyFeed
The thing is, I talked with dozens of developers from across Europe this week and none of them said I was wrong. They said that there is a huge shift underway in Europe and that Nokia HAS lost mindshare and developer leadership and is underway to market share losses too.
- Robert Scoble
This is something you can see with your own two eyes in the street. I'm seeing a huge number of iPhones compared to last year in London.
- Robert Scoble
By Europe you mean Norway for eg. ? If so then it's more than natural!
- directeur
At one London session of entrepreneurs I spoke in front of, 30% of the audience had iPhones. That was unheard of last year.
- Robert Scoble
directeur: I am mostly talking about London, because i have the most experience there (been visiting there for years and watching mobile trends there).
- Robert Scoble
Nokia has lost leadership and lost support of developers and Europe no longer has phones that make me jealous.
- Robert Scoble
So you're saying the iPhone is popular? Um...what's next?
- Tyler Hurst
It is natural! Mobile in northern europe is more developed than anywhere else
- directeur
That is a HUGE shift from five years ago.
- Robert Scoble
Tyler: not just iPhone. Lots of non-Nokia phones. Blackberries. Androids.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, the infrastructures are ready, I bet better than in the USA
- directeur
The texting culture there, though, is causing Nokia to miss out on the web revolution that's happening in mobile globally.
- Robert Scoble
Having spent some time with the Nokia N97, the iPhone is a stunningly better offering...
- Buzz Bruggeman
Surely its no surprise that wealthy entrepreneurs would have an expensive mobile phone?
- Mark
directeur: yes, and the infrastructure is being used by iPhones.
- Robert Scoble
Buzz: it isn't even close, unfortunately.
- Robert Scoble
Texting won't die..but the availability of apps on the iPhone will widen the gap..
- Buzz Bruggeman
Mark: entrepreneurs are WHO SHIFTS SOCIETY though. So what they do everyone else does shortly.
- Robert Scoble
Yes, but Nokia is fully invested in what's happening in the Valley, look at what they're doing at their Research Center here and look at the Valley companies they've bought
- Chris Nuttall
Robert, I'm excited to see where things go. I've been watching the market and yes believe there's is about to be a catalytic shift.
- Jason Cronkhite
Buzz: it's interesting that some of the coolest iPhone and Android apps are coming out of Europe.
- Robert Scoble
Seems pretty obvious to me. My egocentric analysis sees nothing of interest in their(Nokia's) arsenal.
- Geoff Schultz
Look at the distribution platform... no suprise...
- Buzz Bruggeman
Chris: yes, and what has Nokia done with that investment? Just because you own a great set of technologists doesn't mean you will be able to fix your UI problems and your lack of belief in the web.
- Robert Scoble
A friend told me there are more than 130k iPhones on the T-Mobile network here in the USA, e.g. all hacked...
- Buzz Bruggeman
Palm, iPhone, Android all treat the web as a first class citizen on their devices. Nokia doesn't. THe web SUCKS on Nokia phones.
- Robert Scoble
Chris works for Financial Times, by the way. I'm very interested in hearing his observations about what Nokia will do to fight the Palm/Android/iPhone push to web and great UIs.
- Robert Scoble
Yes, it's a puzzle to me how they have done so poorly with their handsets in the US, but they do believe in the web, after all they have rebranded themselves as an internet company. They are still way ahead in their thinking but not their implementation.
- Chris Nuttall
Chris: it's easy to say "we believe in the web." It's far harder to make the web work properly on your devices and make it a first class citizen.
- Robert Scoble
On the notion of, "We Are The Media", I was at a local cheerleader camp and it was really interesting to see the lines of parents who all had their phones taking video, pictures and sharing media. It was almost like what you see on the red carpet events.
- Jason Cronkhite
Chris... implementation seems to be a fairly important issue..
- Buzz Bruggeman
Scoble - ever use Skyfire? iPhone is going to take the "general public" share as its expected to for the next 3 years, but after that - if mobile technology grows into something more, Nokia will take it back with innovation. Something iPhone has yet to truly offer
- Enrique Gutierrez
Enrique: yeah, Skyfire looks interesting but isn't as nice as Android/Palm/iPhone approaches that are natively built in.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, Buzz, you're right, just think it's too soon to write them off, damn clever those Finns
- Chris Nuttall
Symbian OS is archaic and needs a new browser, certainly, but you can't dance the fact that iPhone has offered little innovation outside of marketing appeal. Nokia is where the forward advancement in mobile tech is going to come from - Apple has not ever and will not ever provide that (as they don't NEED to)
- Enrique Gutierrez
Finns are fine, bring out the sauna, but look rather at all the developers on the iPhone platform...
- Buzz Bruggeman
Enrique: it's interesting. I have been using a Nokia phone for the past week and it sucks. Copy and paste? Far harder than iPhone. Taking a picture? Far harder than iPhone. Loading an app? Far harder than iPhone. Finding a wifi network? Far harder than an iPhone. Pulling up a web page and typing into it? Far harder than an iPhone. THAT IS INNOVATION THAT MATTERS, NOT WHETHER YOU HAVE A ZEISS LENS!!!!
- Robert Scoble
Doesn't anybody ever have a problem with the iphone soft keyboard? I can't seem to get it right ended up back with the blackberry.
- Jim
Nokia has been struggling for years to keep up with competition innovation.
- Jason Cronkhite
Right now the bigger issue is what Apple has chosen to reveal in the iPhone OS, and what ATT can support! There aren't enough Finns to go around to match this..
- Buzz Bruggeman
Robert...btw...how was London? Don't you just love it?
- Bill Heslin
Chris: true. You can never count out Nokia, they have lots of interesting research labs and interesting people working hard on mobile, but they did lose their leadership and now it will be very interesting to see how they will get it back.
- Robert Scoble
As for the softtkeyboard, Jim, it is good enough..
- Buzz Bruggeman
Enrique: no, it is NOT subjective at all. Just put a bunch of people in a room and measure it. I was with a bunch of geeks this week and we were forced to use Nokia phones and they really, really suck. You have no idea how badly they suck. And then when I talk with entrepreneurs and see that 30% have already switched, well, you are totally wrong and missing the boat.
- Robert Scoble
Oh cool, an Apple v. Nokia thread. Robert, good for you if you're right. However, please don't mistake London for the whole of Europe. Or developers with average users. And please don't ignore the fact that there's more mobile web traffic in Europe than in the US (which was, if I'm not mistaking, said in that Really Mobile post you linked to).
- Vlad Bobleanta
Yes, I think they need to strike more alliances here - the Intel one is a good start and supporting something like Moblin
- Chris Nuttall
Vlad: I noticed the same thing last year at LeWeb in France and at Davos in Switzerland and in Tel Aviv in Israel (where there isn't even an Apple store, or there wasn't last year).
- Robert Scoble
Vlad: average users ALWAYS follow developers. Why? Because cool apps drag people to new platforms. Eventually. And my subway trips in London prove that out too, lots of iPhones all over the place, just like in San Francisco.
- Robert Scoble
Chris: those alliances won't fix Symbian. I think Symbian needs to pull a Palm and start over.
- Robert Scoble
I've worked with Nokia phones for 11 years, they have definitely come out with shit phones, and crap OS works, but in the end - they thought of every aspect behind the iPhone 10 years ago with their "Yellow Egg"; and have strived to do more & do better. iPhone... no multitasking? crap camera quality? please, they trim & skim - and it's Apple, the abusers of the consumer. It's just how it is, Apple is a marketing platform, Nokia is a mobile tech company. Simple.
- Enrique Gutierrez
Slowly people will start shifting to soft keyboard smart phones.
- Keven
Yes Symbian sucks, but it's like Microsoft abandoning Windows asking them to do that, well, maybe not quite that severe a move
- Chris Nuttall
Enrique: again, the web is far more important to most people than having a sharp camera. This is provable. And having a great UI that's easy to use, along with tens of thousands of applications that are fun is more important.
- Robert Scoble
As for Nokia, they're a little busy selling 1.5 million phones a day, and most of those to "emerging markets" such as India. As for the browser in the N97, I beg to differ. The UX is not 100% "there yet", but then again, it knows what Flash is. And it's by far Nokia's best browser so far. So I guess in the end you have to make a choice. Pretty or functional. Just don't mistake one for the other. Or you could just install another browser if you don't like it. Because you can do that on a Nokia.
- Vlad Bobleanta
Vlad: I know the market share argument. It sucks as an argument. Alta Vista used to own the market share against Google too.
- Robert Scoble
How much money do you make selling cheap phones in India? Just curious?
- Buzz Bruggeman
Reducing Nokia to being simple a "nice camera" shows me that you're fixated on a biased notion.
- Enrique Gutierrez
Buzz: Nokia makes a lot, but that isn't my point. My point was that Europe used to be three to five years ahead in devices and now it is behind. THAT is a HUGE shift and one that is causing tons of developers to switch loyalties.
- Robert Scoble
Enrique: there is NOTHING ELSE on the Nokia phones that comes close to being better than the current iPhone. Sorry, you can keep that argument up but it does not hunt.
- Robert Scoble
Enrique: what matters most is delivering something that users will adopt and love. And, that is what Apple does well. Sorry to say that Nokia is just not delivering and has not for some time. I used to be and avid Nokia promoter (sold the product for years) but its time for them to deliver something to the market that performs and brings new value to use applicaitons.
- Jason Cronkhite
Buzz: It doesn't matter. You're there, the No.1 brand in India for years in a row. And then you add services to the mix. And give people their first EVER internet experience (on a phone, yes). Because that's just the way it will be. More people will be introduced to the net on a phone than on a computer in a couple of years, if not already. And most of those people are in India, Africa,...
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- Vlad Bobleanta
It's too bad Nokia never managed to invent a good user experience while they were busy inventing everything else.
- Geoff Schultz
Jason, the problem with Nokia is US market centric for the most part. They have failed to introduce anything ground-breaking WITH service provider support since the Nokia 5190 (the first phone to introduce Apps, btw)
- Enrique Gutierrez
Vlad, so true ... developing and emerging markets will also shine new light on potential use cases.
- Jason Cronkhite
Enrique: I've read your articles. They read like Nokia press releases. I've written them too. Here's my version of your article: http://scobleizer.com/2008... written MONTHS AGO. The thing is, I wrote it before the iPhone 3GS came out and before I had good face time with the N97. Today? Sorry, the N97 doesn't come close to the iPhone.
- Robert Scoble
I'd say you should look more towards the sony ericsson joint venture for the european handset firm with a better grasp on the market, even if their products have been a bit crap too. But then, I've never met a single phone yet that has been perfect. The iphone has its share of problems (the fact that after about 2 to 3 hours use the damn thing is dead, the touchscreen can be very hit or...
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- alphaxion
Jason: sorry, emerging markets are momentum plays. They ALWAYS FOLLOW what happened elsewhere. Name a single thing that's come up market. Just one.
- Robert Scoble
If by user experience, all of you mean learning curve, I agree. There's a learning curve with Symbian, there isn't with the iPhone. But, after that has gone, the user experience is very close. If you're just willing to try. If you're not, then yeah, the iPhone wins by far.
- Vlad Bobleanta
Vlad: you are missing my point by making it only about the iPhone. You are forgetting the Palm Pre and the Android OS. Those point the way to great UIs with great regard for the Web. Those are the #1 and #2 things consumers are caring about. THEY ARE DRIVING THE MARKET EVERYWHERE NOW.
- Robert Scoble
Vlad: netbooks were not developed in emerging markets, unless you say OLPC, which hasn't been very successful anywhere.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Not true, take a look at what has happened in Africa with crime (citizen mobilization) where new technologies have emerged because of constraints.
- Jason Cronkhite
There are lots of companies selling lots of Netbooks, and the ones built on Linux get returned to the sellers, e.g. no drivers..
- Buzz Bruggeman
Vlad: you're wrong about the user experience. I've learned to use a Nokia phone. I'm one of the world's leading users of Nokia phones for live video (I was first to do that at Davos, for instance) but it still takes more frustrating clicks to get to the web and the web sucks when compared to the iPhone, no matter how much learning you've done.
- Robert Scoble
Most end users don't want to try to learn something, They just want it too work for them easily.
- Kim Landwehr
Buzz: exactly, and Jason, that's not something that has gone from third world to first world, sorry.
- Robert Scoble
OLPC wasn't successful but it sort of defined a category which is a PERFECT example of what you can expect to come out of innovation for EM's CHEAP GEAR with yesterspec's
- Geoff Schultz
Geoff: you do realize that the OLPC was developed in Boston, right. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I'm not forgetting the Pre, Palm is forgetting the GSM/WCDMA world. I will remember them in Q4. And I'm not forgetting Android either, but I'm expecting a lot more from it in the future. Right now, I don't think the mass market takes it seriously the way it's starting to do with the iPhone, that is all. As for netbooks, Taiwan is not an emerging market, nor a developing one. But I...
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- Vlad Bobleanta
Kim... agreed, people want easy, productive maybe next...but easy is the most important, e.g. taking anyway event the slightest pain...
- Buzz Bruggeman
of coruse but it was designed with EMs in mind.
- Geoff Schultz
Buzz: actually, people will pick up more difficult things IF there's a compelling reason to do so. The thing is, iPHone has 40,000 compelling things that Nokia doesn't have: apps. The developers in Europe are building iPhone apps, they are NOT building Nokia apps.
- Robert Scoble
I have arguing with Netbook oems that the first one that builds a touch enabled/tablet/Netbook that runs Kindle reader software is going to kick ass...
- Buzz Bruggeman
Vlad: remember 1993? The Macintosh was way ahead of Windows. What happened in 1995? Windows became "good enough" and had FAR MORE APPS. That's why I am watching Android. The coolest developers are also building for Android. Apple has to be concerned that it's 1993 all over again. :-)
- Robert Scoble
But compelling and pain, perhaps argue for the long tail, I would love to see a distribution chart for iPhone apps, my guess is that the 80/20 rule pervails, e.g. 80% of the iPhone apps are either the top 20 or max top 20%..
- Buzz Bruggeman
netbooks remind me of the old Psion computers (in fact, Psion actually hold the trademark to the word netbook!)
- alphaxion
Buzz: No drivers? On an OS that ships with a netbook? LOL. One would think that's the first thing an OEM/ODM would care about. You know, it actually working. Anyway, who cares what OS they ship with, exactly? Thankfully Microsoft made XP cheap enough for netbooks so that it became a valuable proposition. You think people in emerging markets know what Linux is more than people in developed countries? They don't.
- Vlad Bobleanta
Bill: I had dinner with someone who had lunch with the queen, but that's the closest I got! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Vlad.. Windows 7 on a netbook is dazzling. Get one and try it..
- Buzz Bruggeman
Robert: agreed on apps. People develop for iPhone and Android because it is 100 times easier than for Symbian. That will change, but I wonder if it won't be too late.
- Vlad Bobleanta
Bill: we have this conversation EVERY TIME there are shifts. You should have seen my arguments with AOL'ers over the Web in 1995. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Buzz: I have a netbook and it's been running 7 since December.
- Vlad Bobleanta
What a successful mobile device has to have: 1.) OS 2.) Developers 3.) Network 4.) Hardware 5.) Sex appeal they are fashion accessories now.
- Geoff Schultz
Bill: I still remember the kids who told me that Macintoshes were stupid, too, and that the world doesn't need mice and windows. Yeah, that went over very well.
- Robert Scoble
Why haven't you installed Linux on it...it's cheaper..
- Buzz Bruggeman
Buzz: And what? I don't understand what the point of your suggestion was. I use Win7 on all my computers. Therefore, I like it. A lot.
- Vlad Bobleanta
Why do people argue against shifts? Because they invested in old stuff and don't want to change. But change is happening and I'm going ot point it out.
- Robert Scoble
My point very simply is that the OS platform and all the apps that run on it are key.. there are no meaningful desktop apps on Linux, and the notion that we have bandwidth ubiquity is delusional...
- Buzz Bruggeman
Robert: good. I'm not arguing against a shift. Something is always changing, and that's good. Because it's thanks to competition, which itself is the best thing ever imho. However, deeming something dead (as opposed to not having a competitive edge anymore) seems a bit much to me. But again, you might be right. In which case in a couple of years I will gladly admit that you were.
- Vlad Bobleanta
these kinds of observations tend to be contentious outside of hard numbers -- people are touchy, you know ;-) -- but anecdotally... i just read the "Dirty Dozen Ugliest and Lamest Cell Phones" list (http://tech.msn.com/product...) and it's a funny look at some seriously BAD design. America has a phone on that list, as does Korea, Japan, and Israel. The other 8 crap phones are all European. Which is kind of surprising.
- Karim
Hence, until someone comes along with rich applications that are available either offline or in some 4G world where you always are on line...Microsoft will own huge chucks of this space..
- Buzz Bruggeman
Buzz: But I agree with that. I don't know why, but it seems to me you are associating netbooks with Linux. When most now ship with XP.
- Vlad Bobleanta
Vlad: I never said that Nokia was dead. I said it lost its leadership. That is a HUGE difference. Nokia will probably still be a profitable company for decades living off of its momentum.
- Robert Scoble
@robert I think some argue against them because too many people cry wolf about them. I mean, I agree with you about a change in the handset market, I do still think Europe will remain ahead of the US for quite some time in most other aspects of mobile comms. But, I wouldn't be surprised if a change there happened. An open mind is a good thing :)
- alphaxion
In the 3rd world the OEMs are trying to ship there own builds of Linux, trying to cut costs to the bone..
- Buzz Bruggeman
alphaxion: the neat thing about visiting a place once a year for years is you get to see shifts underway. This is a big one, and there's lots of UK developers who are poised to take advantage of it.
- Robert Scoble
Buzz: you have numbers for that? And one more thing, by netbooks I do not mean OLPC. That's on another level.
- Vlad Bobleanta
aye, attending tech events in places outside of London (I'd recommend the next time you come to the UK, you step outside of the M25 to see the real UK) you notice that a lot of people talk not only about iphone apps they're developing, but of the web apps they're crafting too. I think the biggest change that is happening is a much bigger uptake of mobile data in general, be it in phone handsets or in dongles strung off of laptops.
- alphaxion
alphaxion: my brother-in-law drives a bus in Newport, Wales, so I get there frequently and he says he's seen more iPHones too.
- Robert Scoble
Vald, sorry, just anectdotal info...because of our product, e.g. http://www.activewords.com/ , which seems to be the perfect storm beneficiary for Netbooks, I have been reading and talking to anyone/thing I can about Netbooks..
- Buzz Bruggeman
I agree that there's more iphones (I moved from a palm treo to one in december last year), I was just pointing out that there's more to the mobile market than what handset a person uses ;) I still think you should come to some of the tech meet ups in Leeds, Manchester and Sheffield.
- alphaxion
Scoble: what made netbooks so popular? The demand for small, light weight computing made for emerging markets. Now, the market has risen upstream because of constraint in the third world and made netbooks popular along with the timing of cloud computing.
- Jason Cronkhite
alphaxion: I watch what developers do. I have never seen a shift that the developers did NOT see first.
- Robert Scoble
Jason: netbooks are popular here, too. Why? Small low cost netbooks are popular. They didn't start being popular in the third world and move to popularity in Silicon Valley because of that.
- Robert Scoble
Netbooks are disposable computers...amortized on a 6 month basis,and there is a nuclear arms race going on, not HP's recent model with HDef screen..
- Buzz Bruggeman
Robert: I see Symbian as becoming less and less mass-market (of smartphones). This segment will probably end up dominated, in a few countries, by the iPhone. And yes, maybe the Pre and Android too. Symbian will become more niche, and it will (read:should) appeal more or mostly to power users. Because of its underlying functionality, modularity and customizability, which are all...
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- Vlad Bobleanta
And about netbooks, Robert. Sorry. No one thought the need for a small low cost notebook existed in the US before they saw the EEE. I do not mean consumers, but manufacturers.
- Vlad Bobleanta
And look how long it took the big guys, HP and Dell, to make their own. Always hoping this will just go away and they wouldn't need to sell anything with such small margins.
- Vlad Bobleanta
Vlad... "ignore" is the operative word, think easy...that's all I hear, e.g. easy to use, easy to read..the great bulk of the people I know with iPhones have no clue that an iPhone has any limitations..
- Buzz Bruggeman
Vlad: right. But I didn't get netbooks because they were developed for some poor country. I bought them because they were cool and only $400.
- Robert Scoble
Buzz: Cool then. But bad for them. Oh, and some day they will. In which case, unless iPhone OS 5 is anything different, they will need something more.
- Vlad Bobleanta
Maybe Nokia is waiting(developing) for Chrome OS for its phones
- Damian Holmes
Robert: the origination of netbooks where built because of constrained resources to solve other problems. They became popular here after seeing the effects of much simpler use cases because of the 3rd world. We only recognized the opportunity to innovate after the fact.
- Jason Cronkhite
Robert: True. But they were sold in poor countries at first. Which drew your (and other connected people's) attention to them. This created a demand. To which Asus and Acer, in their bid to win market share, responded. :)
- Vlad Bobleanta
And I've met plenty of developers that have backed the wrong horse ;) The iphone tho, I agree isn't the wrong horse in this case. Still, doesn't change that there is a general migration to mobile based internet connectivity instead of wired connection restricted to your home. Many of the mobile operators in the UK are giving away netbooks with a 3G dongle contract.
- alphaxion
Damian: LOL. That was it. That was why it isn't Android, they were waiting for Chrome OS. Now it makes sense.
- Vlad Bobleanta
Vlad: we're on the same page re: netbooks.
- Jason Cronkhite
Jason: Yup, it seems so. Good to not argue with every single person here :)
- Vlad Bobleanta
You make a lot more money being a fast follower than pioneer... Apple understands that...and so does Microsoft...
- Buzz Bruggeman
@jason as I mentioned, the netbook is a kinda evolution of the pocket computers from the likes of Psion (who have the trademark on the name "netbook").
- alphaxion
alphaxion: Yes, that trend is extraordinary imho. The more subsidized netbooks, the better. The more people connected to the internet easier, in more places, and not dependant on cables, the better. Oh crap, now I'm going to have to argue with everyone for this.
- Vlad Bobleanta
Vlad: I am not sure it's true that netbooks went on sale in third-world countries first, but even if that's true, it's not why I bought one.
- Robert Scoble
Robert / Vlad: as Robert said, emerging markets are for momentum...well, Apple needs to look at these constrained and emerging markets to see how the product is used as I'm sure further innovation can be had because of circumstance.
- Jason Cronkhite
I didn't say it's why you bought one, I said it's why you were able to buy one.
- Vlad Bobleanta
Vlad: I don't agree with that thesis, either. Computers are always getting smaller and cheaper. But, let's get back to discussing mobile, cause even if you are right it really doesn't match the mobile shifts going on now and it doesn't explain why Nokia has lost its way.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I think Vlad & I are both saying that more innovation comes from circumstantial or constrained situations than more people give credit to or see.
- Jason Cronkhite
Robert: Agreed. I didn't want to hijack this, but you asked for an up-market example.
- Vlad Bobleanta
Jason: that's true. Vlad: yeah, but I don't see anyone marketing netbooks as "you should buy one because they are popular in India." While iPhones are marketed down market like that all the time.
- Robert Scoble
Bill: heheh. This is how I work out my jet lag. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Bill: don't worry, I have a ton of Microsoft stuff coming in the morning (among other videos that I did in London).
- Robert Scoble
I think the key word in mobile is 'easy'. And this was pioneered by Apple. Which is why I keep coming back to them. It's easy to do this and that. Not much, but what you can do is easy. This is the key to success with average Joes, imho. However, for the so-called power users, I think the more options the better. The less artificially imposed limits, the better. It's how I see it. I...
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- Vlad Bobleanta
Robert: how do you feel about mobile commerce and entertainment i.e. live mobile consumption and mobile transactions?
- Jason Cronkhite
Yes there is a shift in terms of attention from developers. The driver is the cool and fast user experience and the easy integration with the cloud and cool new devices IMHO. Europe has to catch up and developers must define their objectives. Why? There are the end users with different phones and a developer should try to reach out more than 1% of the world market. Europe mobile technology must attract end users and developers. BTW: Readers should separate between current market share and a market shift.
- bishoph
iPhone has captured developers in a way only the Palm did 10 years ago. For this reason the iPhone is more compelling than the N97. Nokia's have been technically superior for years (internet tethering? come on Apple, Nokia's came with bluetooth modem drivers years ago) but Apple packages better, is easier to use and has attracted developers. Also, it's created a platform where the average Joe will be buying apps rather than the internet/gadget fans only. Technical superiority is only half the battle.
- David Reinhardt
Robert: the problem of your initial statement is that you're saying "Nokia is European and used to be ahead in terms of mobile phones development, and now it is not, thus Europe is now behind of USA in mobile terms", but you never justify why or how Nokia's lost leadership puts Europe behind USA mobile-wise.
- Marcos Marado
from fftogo
Just curious about the usability once again @Robert Scoble. As I understand that u only have to slide down the lens cover of the N97 to activate the camera and then use the dedicated shutter button to take a photo, thus having the camera (and the screen) on a landscape mode like every other digital camera. U say that taking a photo with N97 (or some other Nokia device) is far more complex than taking a photo with iPhone. How much easier it is on the iPhone?
- Henrikki
Otherwise quite interesting discussion. Nokia is at the moment as weak as it's weakest link, which is the OS. I have been a bit dissapointed about the time it has taken them to implement touch and really focus on developers. The OS is the platform and that is going through a major transition to open software projekt. Nokia just can't abandon the OS and the platform and the transition takes time. Do they have the time, time will tell.
- Henrikki
There is absolutely no way Europeans would create their own proprietary OS for mobile devices to compete with the iphone and symbian. Nokia is BY FAR the biggest worldwide mobile phone producer, they sell about a billion mobile phones each year, no matter how many rich people can afford to buy iphones at your conferences.
- Charbax
Android 2.0 is ready in September, that one will enable dozens of new manufacturers to come with iphone-killer devices, absolutely FOR SURE. Archos which I am the biggest fan of, they are french and making an Android phone with HD video playback, HD video record, up to 500GB storage, 4.8" 800x480 OLED touchscreen, Tivo-like video recording, DVB-T and DVB-SH mobile TV reception and...
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- Charbax
I was in West Africa last year and it was pointed out to me by a European working there that even though it's a poor country, everyone has a Nokia. And it was almost true. Every mobile phone I saw was a Nokia. They were intrigued by my iPhone but there is no way they could have used one to it's full potential. Compared to Europe and the US, Africa and Asia are huge emerging markets full...
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- Gilbert Harding
This whole conversation is cracking me up! Keep it up, Robert. Of course, a handset isn't the only measure of markets, technologies or leadership in mobile. I will add this point to Robert's observations. The highest ARPU (average revenue per user) globally is in the USA. The greatest number of talk time per month on a mobile happens in the USA @ almost 1000 minutes/month/per user. We...
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- Debi Jones
I'm in the UK now and have also noticed the shift towards more touch sensitive screens over here... my brother and nieces have had touch sensitive LG mobiles and other brands for some years now, way before I got my iPhone last year. They are all still laughing at my ancient PAYG Nokia phone that I use over here for calls and txts when travelling. It's like a museum piece compared to their cool touch mobiles.
- Sally Church
@Henrikki as someone who owns an N97 and an iPhone, they are like night and day. The iPhone you just touch the camera icon on the screen and go, the N97 took me over a week to work out how to take a photo and a year later I still have no clue how to use many of the functions including setting up email on it. The iPhone is intuitive and doesn't need a manual.
- Sally Church
@SallyChurch I think you'll find you have an N95. The N97 has only just been released, so there's no way you could've owned it for a year. My wife has an N95 and the only things she uses are the phone functions & to take pictures - everything else hasn't been touched.
- Edd McArdle
The Crab Pulsar, a city-sized, magnetized neutron star spinning 30 times a second, lies at the center of this remarkable image from the orbiting Chandra Observatory. The deep x-ray image gives the first clear view of the convoluted boundaries of the Crab's pulsar wind nebula. Like a cosmic dynamo the pulsar powers the x-ray emission. The pulsar's energy accelerates charged particles, producing eerie, glowing x-ray jets directed away from the poles and an intense wind in the equatorial direction. Intriguing edges are created as the charged particles stream away, eventually losing energy as they interact with the pulsar's strong magnetic field. With more mass than the Sun and the density of an atomic nucleus, the spinning pulsar itself is the collapsed core of a massive star. The stellar core collapse resulted in a supernova explosion that was witnessed in the year 1054. This Chandra image spans just under 9 light-years at the Crab's estimated distance of 6,000 light-years.
- Mitchell Tsai
from Bookmarklet
Nice to have you back, Mitchell! :) Missed your quality shares.
- Jemm
Thanks Jemm. I've been trading the stock market & posting lots of boring world news & economics articles... :-) Nice to have time to surf photography sites again and see what everyone at FriendFeed is discovering. I just subscribed to another ~50 people here at FF. It's an amazing community.
- Mitchell Tsai
I'm using that wallpaper, looks so great!
- Jorge Avila
Ditto. I would like one of the rainbow logo in large (like taking up most of the space between the time and the slide to unlock), but this one is nice.
- Cheryl Jones
from BuddyFeed
Oops. Meant to say I'm using it on my phone, not laptop.
- Cheryl Jones
from BuddyFeed
This is a great kyte cast. Is that the right word for it? I'm always trying to figure out the best way to utilize these social sites to proper filter out the garbage for the nuggets.
- Daniel Norton
To learn how to use Friendfeed effectively, where do you suggest starting? Watching your video here and interested in leveraging its capabilities so would like to know a good way to get my feet wet here.
- Lyn Graft
You should do a similar one on just Friendfeed, try to get more people over here :)
- Simon Wicks
Robert that was great. Thanks for doing the video! Can you do one on Friendfeed like Simon asked? I think that would be very helpful! :)
- Daynah
Thanks for sharing - good segment. Now I just need more time in the day! Can you do any split screen interviews like the Peter Himmelman show a few weeks ago?
- Lyn Graft
I like tweetdeck a lot but I can't live without navigation w/keyboard and the two-fingers horiz scroll so they really need to get this for me to definitely switch!
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
from twhirl
I missed the Friendfeed one, thanks for the link again Robert
- Simon Wicks
This is really helpful. Sco. I like the "media snack" term. And "attention thief." Would like to see your GTD vid when you do it. And less so your google reader one. Search.twiiter.com. And generally how you drink valuable memes from the firehose is helpful. Is there a "channel" of these vids from you? "Feedly.com" I couldn't parse the verbal- google grabbed it based on sound.
- moon_shadow70
I'm finding kyte interface a bit annoying cause I paused and walked away and can't just reload to where I was!!!! (is it me?) Arg, I may redo the first 15+ minutes.
- moon_shadow70
It would be helpful to have your "must follow" list in non-verbal format that was too fast.And Kyte's rewind is way too inexact to keep rewinding it. Thanks. :-)
- moon_shadow70
Has this changed in recent times? I heard on the gilmore gang that 90% of your friends are on FF, so is twitter still as prominent?
- Chris Lloyd
Chris Twitter is becoming less important.
- Robert Scoble
By providing better relationships with the current subscribers they will tell others... but Twitter doesn't count. You need to be on FF more.
- CW™
i am following someone who is "well known" in the internet marketing biz and he tweeted something along the lines of, "i want more followers... not so i can increase the number, but because i have a lot of good stuff to share". I laughed out loud.
- Violet Mae Lim
Violet Mae, haha. Everyone wants that too but not by being directly blunt about it.
- imabonehead
@imabonehead, i get that but my point is, if you have stronger relationships w/ ppl, those ppl are more likely to read and RT your stuff. Merely having more followers doesn't mean they all want to consume your content.
- Violet Mae Lim
@sean- i know you aren't interested. you're sean percival! you already know everyone ;)
- Violet Mae Lim
The more followers you have the less you care about their content, it's TOO NOISY.
- Nir Ben Yona
A tiered strategy can be helpful (almost like a marketing plan). Spend 40% of your time doing what YOU want. 30% cultivating deeper friendships. 20% with acquaintances. 10% reaching out for a wide audience. And you might pass though periods with very different priorities (e.g. Those days when it seems like your friends are using up all of your energy with their crises/celebrations. And days at conferences meeting 95% new people).
- Mitchell Tsai
I've been surfing around 10s/100s of Facebook profiles for the past few days. One of the real drags about passing through periods of low-internet access (or periods where 100s of people connect to you) is that you don't have time to look at people's websites/resumes/book-lists/Twitters/etc... It's really nice to have time to catch up. In some ways (not all), it was nice when I met...
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- Mitchell Tsai
When are politicians going to listen to your advice? ;-)
- Rutger Blom
I think that our followers should be trying to cultivate their relationships with us. And we should be working on the relationships with those we follow.
- Gregg Scott
@Mitchell I like your approach Mitchell. @gregg-I always make it a point to talk to the people who take time to talk to me. On twitter, I have new follower notifications turned off. I generally will follow those who take the time to @ reply me. @Rutger- unfortunately, probably never. :)
- Violet Mae Lim
I have many people follow and then unfollow me if I haven't reciprocated in 48 hours. Why did they give me their attention in the first place? Was it because there was value in my content or were they simply another one of the growing number of tired Twitter stat-collectors?
- Gregg Scott
Gregg. (you mean "unfollow"?). This tit-for-tat approach also affected FriendFeed (e.g. If I like something in your feed, and you don't come back & like something in my feed, then I won't subscribe to you). I really try to visit everyone who comments/likes my stuff, but on busy days with 1,000s of comments/likes it quickly becomes impossible. I don't track my Twitter followers, but it...
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- Mitchell Tsai
FriendFeed has quite a "halo" effect with it's comments & likes (and it's not just on the Robert Scoble's & Louis Gray's). Once there were a few hundred people following me, whenever I had the time to surf "obscure" people's feeds, I'd notice that a lot of likes/comments would follow whichever items I had liked/commented. In a way, this can be kind-of ego-boosting :-) but it also helps...
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- Mitchell Tsai
Mitchell, that's right. I see the follow-on activity is like a wake behind a fast moving boat. There is a ripple effect that can trail you.
- Louis Gray
Violet, cultivate, huh? Do you want to date them now? :)
- Ryo / Fuck Facebook
Ryo- no. but someone could do a great video-blog on that. could be called, "date my followers"....
- Violet Mae Lim
FriendFeed, I still don't completely understand you, nor do you speak to me in a way Twitter does, but I have 782 subscribers here. So I'm going to try.
And if you @troynt's excellent greasemonkey script for twitter (http://userscripts.org/scripts...) , you will see that FriendFeed is not much different from Twitter.
- Atul Arora
If you're looking for FriendFeed tips, the FFundercats have a weekly podcast to keep you covered on what posts are hot on FriendFeed and new features being brought to the site. http://ffundercats.podomatic.com
- LonelyBob
Harry: if you spent more time here you really should have more than that. You are one of my favorite tech journalists and I have 36,000.
- Robert Scoble
Robert... Mr McCracken only has one comment... (cue southern accent)... there's your sign
- Chris Heath
Chris: exactly. You won't get it until you participate.
- Robert Scoble
Just try it out...c'mon...my name's Harry as well, and I don't know about you but I don't know many other Harry's. =)
- Harry Wolff
It took me a long time to understand FriendFeed... It's worth figuring out.
- Bob Morris (polizeros)
Harry, we should sit down some time. I'll walk you through it, and you can be taught.
- Louis Gray
For those who don't know Harry he was editor of PCWorld and does some of the best tech blogging out there.
- Robert Scoble
Harry, do people ever ask you if your name is a pseudonym? I used to wonder every once in a while when reading one of your articles.
- Chris Heath
Thanks, all--well, almost all. I cheerfully admit to enjoying playing the role of the dense person who doesn't quite get FriendFeed. But I do understand that it isn't worth anything unless you dive in and participate. Part of my problem is that I'm more of a serial social networker than a parallel one, and I'm not ready to scale back on Twitter yet. But I do promise to spend more time in here
- Harry McCracken
Friendfeed rocks, and yes it's different to Twitter. In fact, I get tired of the direct comparisons. I use both.
- Ian May
Harry: glad to have you join us. The comments everyone has made about participation are dead on: no one will know you're here unless you start commenting/liking other people's material. Once you get engaged on other people's items, they start to care what you think and say. POOF: interaction. Oh, and it might be a good idea to fill out your profile: you'd probably have a boatload more followers if people here could tell at a glance that you were an editor of PCWorld...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Harry, I feel the same way. I think I get FriendFeed, just not sure that real-time feedback (vs momentarily delayed) is as big a deal as so many folks make it, particularly to folks without large followings. But I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt as well.
- Tom Gimpel
Watchin' and learnin'....watchin' and learnin'.
- Sharon Tappan
I'm new to both sites but am thoroughly enjoying learning from them both!
- NXT Nutritionals. inc.
Harry: you'll get there. More and more of my Twitter network is here every day and the conversations are both deeper and more useful than the ones I'm seeing happen over on Twitter. You gotta make a choice of where do you invest for the future, I understand, but I've never regretted spending more time here.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: I have found more relevant & meaningful conversation on friendfeed. It seems more social media & business ppl are here than twitter.
- NXT Nutritionals. inc.
Harry -- it's about letting your online activity stream communicate for you. Also, it's about how threaded conversations actually allow you to say something. :) Glad you're here. P.S., going to JavaOne this year?
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
I've found its not as obvious as Twitter but I get the feeling there's all this power under friendfeed I'm not seeing yet.
- William
Harry: you should watch when I show friendfeed to Jimmy Wales, founder of Wikipedia: http://www.ustream.tv/recorde... -- that might help you discover some of the power.
- Robert Scoble
I don't get why Twitter still has not added comments and groups. I don't like going to two different sites.
- Donald Forth
Donald: Twitter's leadership is religious about keeping the service as simple as possible.
- Robert Scoble
"Peristaltic"? FriendFeed is educational. But a bigger concern is the follower/following ratio.
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
stomach upset? twitter trials? CALL JOE THE PLUMBER!
- jeneane sessum
For some people it is. People who are using Twitter as a social tool. There are many brands that use Twitter as a way to promote their product. So, I can see where something like that would be useful.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Bah, as long as I can have a good conversation at any given time, I'm not too worried about how many followers I have.
- Casey Criswell
@jeremy, to me it's the difference between being Angelina Jolie or Paris Hilton. 2.0 - Paris. 3.0, Angelina. Both are stars, but only one is quality. :)
- Patricia
not sure i see how that is relevant to twitter followers...
- Jeremy Toeman
Leo: you go on TWiT!!! That worked for me! Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
It's that you can gain the same outcome doing things differently. I think web 2.0 was all about how many people you can get following you regardless of the quality, how targeted, how many actually were paying attention, or real value. The next phase will be more about actually having substance to your efforts. It's like traffic - it's not the number of unique visitors, but what those...
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- Patricia
I'm amazed at the organic flow of followers here on friendfeed (much more so than twitter). It's something that just builds over time as you participate and seems to come in waves. I have no other avenues for finding followers, but in the last week or so I've been getting quite a few just because a few of my posts or comments drew a bit of attention. It's true that having a decent number of followers helps you have more vibrant conversations.
- Laura Norvig
but WHY is that going to happen? there's no evidence of it in any other industry... look at reality TV - an industry that's evolved for multiple decades... i *want* you to be right, but all signs I see point to this being wishful thinking...
- Jeremy Toeman
Robert, not on Twitter you don't ;)
- Sally Church
for those who use twitter as a marketing vehicle, more followers equals more potential traffic. an example would be blogs that use twitterfeed. those twitter accounts would want as many followers as possible. For the normal twitter user, i'd agree with you.
- Allen Stern
I need some followers who are into tech at least a little bit!
- Cameron
@jeremy, the idea that less is more is present in tons of industries. but, meanwhile, reality TV has been evolving for decades? I think the first reality show i saw was at the earliest eight years ago. were there others? I might have been younger and hadn't noticed. what were some that existed decades ago?
- Patricia
I can't stand twitter users who only use twitter as a self-promotion tool. To summarize... "If you’re worth reading, someone will read you. If you’re worth watching, someone will watch you. If you’re worth hearing, someone will listen." (— Jack Shedd)
- Nick Humphries
game shows? thats not really my point though - i was observing that, as a medium grows, it does not exactly trend toward "noble ambitions" (like quality vs quality). i find it hard to believe that more people on twitter == better followers per individual...
- Jeremy Toeman
@jeremy, all i can say is i work in internet biz and i hear a lot of people talking about this. it's sort of like ad networks vs targeted ads. but, if im not making a solid enough argument, ok. i don't want to debate about it :) Are game shows considered reality? i'm not trying to be a smart ass or anything - i work in TV, write about it 3x a week for TV week and i'd love to know if there were really old, old reality shows. The first reality anything i can recall is Madonna's movie Truth or Dare.
- Patricia
i'd say MTV's Real World was the first "reality show" I can really think of... but game shows in the early 80s and even 70s were fairly candid/"Real"...
- Jeremy Toeman
@jeremy! Oh yes!! Real World! Thank you!!
- Patricia
...Here in AUstralia there was teh "House From Hell"... it was done on the radio not telly but is touted as the fore-father of reality TV; bigBrother etc followed from It's concepts from what i understand and recall....House Froim Hell got HAMMERED in ther media at the time because there were liability issues....hunting article/citation
- Mr.Tiggr
@Jeremy :: House From Hell aired in Australia in October 1998; so Reality TV has at least been in existence for a decade now :D
- Mr.Tiggr
The only reason twitter works people like you and @leolaporte is because people respond. For that, you need engaged followers.
- Byron Servies
The race after who's having bigger...come on, want more followers? prove yourself. participate in the conversation, help people, response to replies, share quality posts that interesting your friends and you will see results in few months. there is only shortcut i know about. on windows.
- Avi Joseph
I have given up on the numbers game. The one thing I would like is to be able to throw out a question and have lots of people answer it. Maybe we could create a tag #question and have people tag their messages with it to get them answered.
- Sweyn Venderbush
from twhirl
Twitter is begging for some user code of conduct. Might be key to its credibility and future.
- William Mougayar
Having more followers is like a hot summer's day when you're hungover, perfect in theory, unbearable in reality. The fewer people are following the more intimate the connection :-)
- Richard A.
I wrote a Social Media Deontology recently to that effect William.
- Richard A.
but dear Robert you have so many followers and you the envy of many, we teach by not what we say but what we do... what is the right goal?
- Adam Gersbach
from twhirl
Followers in no way, shape or form means engaged people though. Count how many people react to what you say, how often you get ten to twenty conversing. Ever tried conversing with more? Gets challenging to keep track.
- Richard A.
Rather than getting more followers, I try to get more people to talk to me. I learn a lot too.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Just like how one man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist - one person's social media "consultant" is another person's spammer.
- Jeff Sandquist
That's fabulous video Robert...also a great tutorial for all the Twhirl offers. I have used it for a while but didn't know that it did this much! Very cool additions with Seesmic.
- Troy Malone
Thanks Troy. I've been getting lots of interesting videos lately. I put up five different companies in past 24 hours. Whew! Gotta get some sleep.
- Robert Scoble
looks even more amazing now with ping.fm integration and saveable searches
- Dennis R.
The ping.fm thing is pretty badass. It seems to be smart enough to avoid loops.
- ld
That's good to now, I was worried about loops!
- Michael Fidler
Thanks for the video, the new realtime saved searches are great, but the way search is integrated into the replies page is the best thing ever.
- Gavin Bowman
Is a Linux port planned for the Twhirl? I am currently good served with TweetDeck. But I am always open to different approaches.
- Michael Jung
If it would have groups, i would prefer it over TweetDeck.
- Dave Vanhoudt
from twhirl
Disappointing this. No new features for Twitter (groups?). No new features for FriendFeed. Ping.fm isn't available in the version I have. I guess the seesmic video chat works, but I don't care.
- Dominic Jones
I am playing with it now. It is a good iteration over previous versions, but still a lot busier than tweetdeck.
- Jeff Sandquist
from twhirl
So the Ping.fm integration only works if you're using seesmic video? Am I wrong? So this upgrade is really just about seesmic?
- Dominic Jones
@Dominic: I don't think you need to be using Seesmic to get the ping.fm integration. Open the twitter window and click the configure button. Then paste in your ping.fm api key and make sure the box is checked.
- Craig Eddy
I need to try this. I was a devoted twhirl user until just recently when Tweetdeck made some changes I needed.
- Bryan R. Adams
@Craig: Ah, I need a manual. Thanks a lot.
- Dominic Jones
I needed the "how to" video. Question-->Why is it that I'm seeing so many new people on twitter that I'm not following?
- Kyle
nevermind. . . just figured out that I had the the "search" locked in on "Scoble" from the video walkthrough. . . d'oh!
- Kyle
I can now push to all points via Ping.fm, which is great. But I can't get anything back from people who respond on those many outposts. That's not conversation. It's one-way, not the two-way conversation I'm really hoping for. Any ideas?
- Dominic Jones
@Dominic: I've been noodling that as well...wouldn't it be nice if ping.fm could go and check all the posts for comments made on our updates...
- Craig Eddy
Thou art officially the "Switch" posterboy
- Bwana ☠
To really make it work, it should be sponsored by some sort of scholarship program, so the switch can be more affordable.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Mark, I was thinking $5 a month via some kind of PayPal mechanism. If I can negotiate at least one shareware discount a month worth at least that... more than covers it. Mac developers are usually MORE open to that stuff.
- l0ckergn0me
Apple's got this cool service called One-to-One, where people can learn from certified trainers in the retail stores. Maybe they'd give out some one-to-one programs (ret $99)? I've been telling some switchers about it recently, because I'm sick of being tech support. ;-)
- Paul Salzman
from twhirl
#Evernotetip Use Evernote 2 keep a journal of communications between your boss or other co-workers. Refer 2 it if their is ever a conflict. - http://twitter.com/wizardE...
#Evernotetip Use Evernote to keep track of any medical symptoms U may B having. Take that information with you on your next doctors appt. - http://twitter.com/wizardE...
I've found a good rule of thumb to be that unless you are absolutely sure you will never need the Internet to help get you a job, act as though you may be laid off next week. What would you want attached to your name? Like I said on your tweet, probably the biggest faux pas I see is people bitching about their job. It's unprofessional.
- Mark Trapp
Robert I think this advice is for even when you have a job. I can't recall where but I remember reading that it's essential to network when you _have_ a job. Not only will it help you get a job when you don't have one, it'll help you move upward and diagonally across the proverbial ladder.
- Bhavishya Kanjhan
These are some very sound and actually wise principles to adhere to. Thanks, I'm definitely marking this as a favorite, and will refer to it many more times in the future!
- Carlton Hackett
This is one of my favorite Scoble posts so far. Great social networking and networking tips whether or not you've been laid off.
- Bill Romanos
@scobleizer This is a terrific post that just oozes common sense. Key though is, do this 2 years before you are laid off.
- Bankwatch
Great post. And I finally realized I was subscribed to a partial feed of scobleizer.com this entire time (which I thought was the only feed available); that has been rectified.
- Tamar Weinberg
@bankwatch - how so very true, but there are ways of speeding up the process.
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Really appreciate this timely post. Just had a very talented friend in publishing who was laid off and am hoping your post can make a difference for her.
- Kirsten Hamstra
Great stuff you are really helping people
- Thomas Power
Love it! I'm embarrassed to say I've been freelancing and wanting work in the social media space and have completely neglected my blog. I have incorporated links to the various social media tools/sites in my email signature (thanks AK for pointing this out!) and have received questions and comments about them. Thanks for the very timely post and opportunity for a very helpful discussion.
- Jill Howard Allen
If one follows all of the advice in this post, they might not need a job...they could become self employed.
- April Russo (app103)
Great advice. Thanks for posting it.
- Kenneth Chu
That's a great post, Robert! An aside: I had to look up LOLCats, just to make sure I knew what those were. I guess I'm not looking for a job in entertainment or in working with children, eh? :-) I think my inner Capricorn ages me!
- Yule Heibel
when i started contributing info to the online world, i realized that i was no longer anonymous. i try to follow these simple rules: 1) be professional with everything posted (images, text, vids, etc), 2) dont associate with unprofessional folks (i.e. those who post with disregard), 3) add value. The sooner you start networking and building a quality online presence the sooner it can be utilized for career gain.
- TJ Trapp
Some good advice, some complete yawn-able BS. Be yourself, build enough social capital that your boss is scared of what YOU can do when you talk shit. Thats why I did :)
- sean percival
So who should I be taking to lunch so I can get my story in the right ears in order to get the right next job?
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Joelle: what do you want to do with the rest of your life?
- Robert Scoble
Enjoyed this post a lot, Robert. You've made a good point for me that I need to "marry" a couple of my blogs into one that states how I bring technology to ministry. I tend to keep these separate. And I also tend to do less blogging while I'm in school. I'll try and make more effort on the blogging. I'm in math courses right now as I'm finishing my degrees and I tend to get my head buried with those.;)
- Melanie Reed
Now that I'm addicted to Evernote, I've found that I question the value of some of the other tools and services I used to use. Like TripIt.com, for example. That site used to be valuable to me to aggregate travel info in one place. But a consistently-used travel tag in Evernote is way better.
Are you keeping it in a non-synced notebook or encrypting it or what, Russell?
- Her Lindsay-ness
Yeah, I've pretty much stopped using Delicious/Diigo and I was big on bookmarking. I mainly just use them if there's no content I really need on the page (like if it's a page to download something). Everything else goes into Evernote now.
- Her Lindsay-ness
Rutro. I am not encrypting my notes. Maybe i should.
- Russellreno
#EvernoteTip Use Evernote to keep track of your achievements at work. Then present that record to your boss when it's time for a review. - http://twitter.com/wizardE...
Yet another use for Evernote - it's a great place to store cheat sheets for Google, programming languages and other topics. There's dozens of these cheats at http://www.cheat-sheets.org/ and I've started a public notebook at http://www.evernote.com/pub...
It's self fulfilling. If you post incessantly about service X, guess what... service X grows. It's not rocket science. Feedback look, echo chamber... call it what you will.
- Ken Sheppardson
I find it funny that there's two Twitter posts on friendfeed's "best of" page today. THAT is why you'll continue seeing us talk about Twitter. Everytime I write about Twitter I get more traffic.
- Robert Scoble
Sure, I think there's some of that, but the same is true for any popular topic. I also think it gets a lot of coverage for the reasons I lay out in the piece. :-)
- Eric Berlin
How would everyone keep all of their data if Evernote ceased to exist? I know this isn't likely to happen, but it's something I've been wondering as I start to store more and more data. I know we can export notes in the .enex format, but I'm not sure what to do with that.
This is from Evernote's Q & A public notebook: "You can export your notes to HTML or xml - but they may not be directly compatible with other database applications. It is a plain-text export, however, so it can be massaged however you need." http://www.evernote.com/pub...
- RyanEs
I was hoping more for a text file or PDF export.
- RyanEs
I was thinking the same thing about wikipedia: http://friendfeed.com/e... and probably the same idea could work here as well: use P2P to store data on user systems (have like 20 or 30 copies of everyone's data for redundancy). This way even if Evernote goes down, the data lives on (ready to be retrieved later) in the P2P user systems.
- vijay
It seems like your local client app would continue to function... you could take your time and export different bits to the various distributed places you used to keep them. Not a great solution, I agree.
- Her Lindsay-ness
I'm trying not to think about it. I think this is an effective strategy.
- Mitch Wagner
Do the Evernote folks ever cruise around these parts? I feel like this is something they would have thought of, I just can't seem to find the answer anywhere.
- RyanEs
Do you scan receipts and financial records into Evernote? I've been scanning receipts for a week or two now, not sure whether I'll keep it up. I rarely refer back to receipts, even though I save them religiously.
This is the main thing I use Evernote for. I'm sick of keeping paper files in my office that I end up throwing out after a year anyway. Every time I make a payment or receive a bill, it gets scanned or screenshoted into Evernote. I upgraded to Premium to get the SSL encryption for this reason.
- Matt
you can take photos of your receipts with your phone/iphone and send them to your account. much easier
- Cee Bee
I've tried using photos, it doesn't work as well. My scanner is slow but it's totally time that I can multi-task through -- I can do something else (like read FriendFeed) while the receipts are scanning.
- Mitch Wagner
Even when you use SSL it's still readable on the server side, right? I mean that's how they do the OCR. I'm nervous about putting financial stuff on Evernote because of that, and I still use Yojimbo for financial stuff only. Does anyone else share my stress?
- Gregory Cohen
Here's what it says in the privacy policy: "As a rule, Evernote employees do not monitor or view your personal information or content stored in the Evernote service, but it may be viewed if we learn that our Terms of Service may have been violated and confirmation is required..."
- Matt
This is why it'd be nice to be able to encrypt non-text notes and entire notebooks! Theoretically, right now someone on the server side could view your notes if they wanted to.
- Matt
Thanks Matt, that's what I suspected. I think a lot of people are hesitant to put financial data on the server in the absence of client-side encryption.
- Gregory Cohen
#EvernoteTip Keep online receipts organized...instead of printing every receipt, try taking a screenshot of the screen and Evernote-ing it. - http://twitter.com/Lougoos...
Tarpipe now has a connector for Evernote! I am going to use RSSFwd to send my FF posts to it so that they're automatically stored in Evernote too. That way I don't have to worry about "losing" something in the 8 page FF bug.
- Her Lindsay-ness
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Lindsay, have you had any luck with this yet?
- Trent Olson
Not really with Tarpipe. I used FeedBurner and made a feed with an email subscription option out of my FriendFeed feed. Then I subscribed to it. It doesn't do real time updates like I wanted, but grabs everything that was posted in 24 hours and sends in one email. That's better than nothing. I tried forwarding it to my tarpipe workflow but it errored out. :( So I just forwarded it directly to my Evernote email address. That works, but it's not ideal.
- Her Lindsay-ness
I got picture posting working after a bit. http://bit.ly/iSKQ It seems that the pipeline is still somewhat fragile as Dropipe failed the first time. Also the OCR seemed not to work that well.
- Jauder Ho
@Lindsey I was trying to do something similar to that. I wanted Evernote to archive all of my tumblr entries (my tumblr also aggregates all my FF entries). I ended up using feedmailer to automatically mail tumblr's RSS feed to Evernote.
- David Adam
So far the FeedBurner feed has been consistent... I've actually come to appreciate the daily summary instead of individual posts since it captures all the conversation as well. Also made a feed for my Likes/Comments so I get two posts a day to Evernote. Feels a bit more "secure" that my FF participation isn't just falling off the edge of the 8 page cliff anymore.
- Her Lindsay-ness
I might try your method, because I haven't been all that satisfied with mine. Also, is there any way to have these emailed/imported feeds automatically tagged or put into specific notebooks? For example a tumblr notebook/tag or a friendfeed notebook/tag.
- David Adam
I haven't found a way to auto-tag or have them put in the non-default notebook, David... I've been meaning to post some feedback to the Evernote devs about that. I want that feature too... Fortunately, since I tag everything, it's pretty easy to see those posts and tag them whenever I go back to the client, but it would be nice if it were done automatically, yeah.
- Her Lindsay-ness
I agree, having things auto-tagged is a must-have feature.
- David Adam
Lindsay - I had a few boxes of these in the 80s as well. I think my parents still have them stored away somewhere...or at least I hope they do. I 'm going to have to dig them up now over Thanksgiving...
- Justin Korn