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Zee.
Guys, I'm having a big clear out on Twitter but want to make sure I'm following all my Friendfeed friends - could you please link to your twitter account in the comments below?
or is there a quicker/easier way i don't know of? - Zee.
Why use twitter when you have FF? - Jeremy (on vacation)
Good question, I don't know of a quicker way but I'd be interested in one as well.. Mine is here, http://twitter.com/JPierce - Joe Pierce
http://twitter.com/rahsheen - pretty positive there was a tool capable of doing this, but not sure if it still exists and can't remember what it was called...I think someone here developed it. - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Thanks for the resub, Z. :-) - Jason Huebel
www.twitter.com/rbonini - Roberto Bonini from iPhone
Doesn't socialtoo do this? Where's Jesse? - Bruce Lewis
Http://Twitter.com/ccheath - Chris Heath from iPhone
twitter.com/ahr19 - Amani
Bruce, yes, SocialToo will clear out who you're following. Just whitelist who you want it to keep and it will follow all but that list. - Jesse Stay
er, unfollow all but that list - Jesse Stay
http//www.twitter.com/louisgray - Louis Gray
@bryansays - Bryan Lee from iPhone
What you can do is run this and then click all the Twitter links in the results. It's everyone you are following. It gives a big page of links to all their blogs and services: http://hiphs.com/ff/ffriends - April Russo (app103)
April, I actually ran it, but it's still hanging, not as quickly as before but it only pulled 2800 of the users from Zee's public subscriptions. I really need to put more work into all of my Friendfeed backup tools. Note: I'm a retard, I'll dm you a list of your users FFriends and their subsequent Twitter accounts. - Jimminy Fuller
Http://Twitter.com/cstechcast - Eric @ CSTechcast.com from iPhone
Try this. https://twitter2ff.appspot.com/. EDIT: Nevermind. It's broke. I'm at http://twitter.com/rodfather - Rodfather
@super_genius - MVB (Grinch of FF)
@zee http://twitter.com/alexsch... Happy Holidays to you and yours! - Alex Schleber
I'm not sure whether I'm following you on Twitter (lost track somewhere also), but this is me: http://twitter.com/zijperspace - Dutch Bloggies
http://twitter.com/susanbeebe -- also see my FriendFeed List. Kol has a good one too!!! :) - Susan Beebe
http://twitter.com/arjo if you're interested ;-) - arjo
Looks like you already re-added me there. - Akiva Moskovitz
Http://Twitter.com/techsavvyguru - Tony Vota from iPhone
Alex Scrivener
You know those mist stands they have at amusment parks that spray a fine mist which cools you off without getting you wet? My inlaws' shower is just like that.
:( - edythe
I have never heard of this mist-but-not-wet thing. - Rochelle
They cool you off on a hot day at a park. It's a fine mist which evaporates before it can hit you, cooling the air. Nice if you are hot from walking around on a warm day, but not if you want to wash your hair. - Alex Scrivener from iPhone
I don't think it ever gets warm enough here in Seattle to need that kind of device. - Rochelle
I don't know, Rochelle... this past summer, I might have had use for one. - Bren -- feeling merry
Yeah, but that's rare. :) - Rochelle
true, I only hope that it doesn't become less so going forward. ;) - Bren -- feeling merry
lol - VAL D. Zone
OMG GLOBAL WARMING - Rochelle
I heard that wasn't really happening, Rochelle, everyone remain calm and go back to spraying Aqua-Net directly into the atmosphere. - Bren -- feeling merry
Note that misters are most effective in areas with low humidity. I don't think Seattle qualifies. - Michael R. Bernstein
Yeah, it get moderately humid here in the summers. Certainly nothing like the south, but it's not desert dry, either. - Rochelle
Really humid here, but they're all over because it's just so hot. The one at Ren Fest a couple years ago was best because it was mist AND shade (they built a walk through for it). - Alix Whitmire
And if you get hotter summers Rochelle, you'll get higher humidity too. - Michael R. Bernstein
Nurse Katie
Bride marries arriving groom at Texas airport - Yahoo! News - http://news.yahoo.com/s...
Bride marries arriving groom at Texas airport - Yahoo! News
"CORPUS CHRISTI, Texas – A woman in a wedding gown surprised her fiance by greeting him at a Texas airport along with a justice of the peace." - Nurse Katie from Bookmarklet
She was in a hurry I'm guessing?! - Jannifer @wordsforliving
maybe she got knocked up while he was gone? - Alex Scrivener
So she's already taking major decisions without consulting him, great start! - Stephan Planken
Its a HOLY WFT wus she thinking scenario !! - Peter Dawson
There must have been an inside joke made or something between them. It does seem a little too spontaneous without some previous mention. - Nurse Katie
So funny...if this was a guy doing this to a girl, everyone would be all, "Oh how romantic!" - Admiral Anika
Anika, I thought the same thing! - vicster is...
@Admiral- Actually your correct, if it was a Guy. its would be so cool. But if it's a chic- then shes too bossy. Funny.. and gender discrimination at it's best est.. even thought its a happy ending for both :)- ! - Peter Dawson
@Anika - I like to think I'd be thinking the guy's nuts if he was the one who initiated it. - Andrew C
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Creative Commons to download... - Jannifer @wordsforliving from Bookmarklet
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yes I'd like a Harley for Christmas! - Jannifer @wordsforliving from Bookmarklet
Those look so effing awesome! - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Very cool lighting! - Jeff P. Henderson
It is! - and if you look at in the large size, it's really stunning! - Jannifer @wordsforliving
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In light of predicted-but-unplanned-for weather conditions, the United Kingdom is now closed for the duration.
Are you keeping out of trouble these days???! - Jannifer @wordsforliving
Doesn't this happen every Christmas? I got stuck in heathrow a few christmas eves ago thanks to freezing fog. - veo
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For the Love of Quotes ~ I'm surprised & sad that I can't get followers for my quotes blog! - http://fortheloveofquotes.blogspot.com/
For the Love of Quotes ~ I'm surprised & sad that I can't get followers for my quotes blog!
Don't know what I'm doing wrong! - Jannifer @wordsforliving from Bookmarklet
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"Drain De-Clogger Recipe: 1/2 cup baking soda 1 cup vinegar 1 gallon boiling water Carefully siphon all the baking soda down the drain. Pour in 1/2 of the vinegar, covering the hole so the fizz is forced down, not up (omit this for toilets, please!). Add the second half of the vinegar, following the same procedure. Allow to sit for 15 minutes or so, and then flush with an entire gallon of boiling water." - Jannifer @wordsforliving from Bookmarklet
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Use a Crock Pot to Make Homemade Candles - DIY - Lifehacker - http://lifehacker.com/5428429...
Use a Crock Pot to Make Homemade Candles - DIY - Lifehacker
"If you're looking for an easy way to make candles or a great homemade gift to give this holiday, this tutorial will show you how to use a crock pot to make candle-creation a snap." - Jannifer @wordsforliving from Bookmarklet
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Homemade Holidays: Crock Pot Candles | Bonzai Aphrodite - http://bonzaiaphrodite.com/2009...
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Here's the original detailed article... - Jannifer @wordsforliving from Bookmarklet
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Google Wave Blog ~ Looks like this is brand new Google blog... - http://googlewave.blogspot.com/
Google Wave Blog ~ Looks like this is brand new Google blog...
Google Wave is a failure if they can't dogfood the blog. - Raphael, Raphael
Raphael - what does it mean to dogfood the blog?? - Jannifer @wordsforliving
Jannifer - Eating your own dogfood. (When a company uses the products that it makes.) "On Saturday morning, Google confirmed that it was testing a new concept in mobile phones, writing in a blog post that it was “dogfooding” the devices, an expression that comes from the idea that companies should eat their own dog food, or use their own products." -- Source, NYT. - Mark Davidson
On second thought... Raphael, what does it mean to dogfood the blog? Use Wave instead of Blogspot for their blog? - Mark Davidson
that's what I thought he meant by it. Besides isn't Blogger/Blogspot Google now anyway? that sort of counts, no? - ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
Mark - Oh ok, I see what you mean now. Maybe that's what he meant by dogfood the blog... ? - Jannifer @wordsforliving
All of Google's blogs are on Blogspot, and yes, they own it. - Mark Davidson from BuddyFeed
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Bindu Reddy
Does FF inherently attract people who like to argue? :)
Geeks have argued since time immemorial. "Who's stronger? Thor or Hulk?" - Spidra Webster
More likely argument takes up disproportionate amount of the conversation. - Ruchira S. Datta
that just peeps in general - VAL D. Zone
Argue is a main tool for some,to polish their ego of....you name it ! - Dedegi
@Ruchira, agree... FF also makes it really easy to argue. Much harder to do so on Twitter etc :) - Bindu Reddy
It doesn't take up much space to say "+1" or "me too!" - Ruchira S. Datta
NO, IT DOESN'T! YOU WANNA FIGHT ABOUT IT? Wait... - FF's Bubba of Arizona
And when "Like" means "Like", one might end up not commenting at all. - Ruchira S. Datta
Bubba of Arizona - yes it does.... :) - Bindu Reddy
:) Bindu, I think there are a lot of people that wanna fight if they can hide behind a faceless medium that allows cowards to escape consequences for inflamatory statements. - FF's Bubba of Arizona
not really.. I believe FF attracts ppl who like to exchange thoughts.. no two person thoughts are the same in terms of articulation and/or created in the same manner. So we perceive a difference and at times we can be very rude in articulating that difference :)- Having a difference of opinion is not an argument !! - Peter Dawson
No, it doesn't, Peter. And there are some people on FF (and other places) that disagree in a cordial, friendly manner. But many others are...well, not so much. - FF's Bubba of Arizona
Not that I have noticed. - Louis Gray
It attracts people of wide and diverse skill sets and it also encourages Hilarity on occasion ,,,, - johnpiercy
NO! :) Wait... maybe YES!... no wait.. umm.. whats the question again? - Uncle CW™
I think it attracts people with a diversity of ideas and opinions, which is bound to lead to arguing. - John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Any site that lets you speak your mind AND has a lot of people that might see your comments...hell yes it does. - Josh Haley
CW - LOL :)) @johnpiercy Agree some of the discussions are hilarious.. - Bindu Reddy
All sites that invite comments attract trolls. - rowlikeagirl
It's like jousting without the blood or the prospect of getting the lady. - Todd Hoff
yup, It's a lot of fun :)... except at times when people begin to take the arguments very seriously.... - Bindu Reddy
Read this.. it might help everyone.. http://ff.im/d6phS - Uncle CW™
Everyone on this thread is wrong, but me. - Alex Scoble
All conversations on the internet are arguments. This is due to the nature of text as a non-emotionally expressive medium. People read lack of emotions as negatives, thus creating an inherent argumentative tone in any text which disagrees with the opinions of the reader. Thus, all text conversations are eventually heated arguments instead of reasonable debate. The exceptions are few and far between. - Otto
otto, interesting idea/theory... never thought of it that way... Sometimes how you phrase something matters. People who are argumentative for example always like having the last word.. - Bindu Reddy
Alex, no you are the only one who is wrong :) - Bindu Reddy
"“Words are magic. The very idea that by making sounds we can paint pictures in the minds of others is magic. We get to choose whether we practice white or black magic" - Jack Brightnose, Cree Medicine Man - Peter Dawson
Bindu, the irony of your statement warped the universe a bit, but it still seems intact...oh and no, you're wrong. :) - Alex Scoble
Ask Scoble ( err robert he invented the Internet ) - johnpiercy
Yes, and what Otto said. Other types like myself, who at least initially wanted to find social connections and interaction, give up on that objective and just change how they use it (for learning or exploring, etc.) - Jannifer @wordsforliving
Fights aggregate attention. So yes. Let's go back to High School. Did anyone pay attention to the geek doing a science fair exhibit? Not many. How about a fight in the quad? I remember one where it seemed the whole school gathered around and watched. This is why conversations don't necessarily make you smarter but are probably more entertaining to watch and, maybe, even participate in. - Robert Scoble
Yes arguing for the sake of arguing doesn't make you smarter... However FF conversations are sometimes really great in helping see another point of view. Maybe we should have a "smart conversation" icon so we can filter for them :) - Bindu Reddy
"smart conversation" - what is smart for one , could be dumb for another ! - Peter Dawson
Is this Argument? I was looking for Abuse. - John Craft
Yes Yes Yes, Umm just what do you want to argue about today??? - ThatDBD
I learn more from an argument than having a discussion. A Discussion sometime leads to an argument but an argument rarely leads to discussion. - ashish
Not more than any other service, but it does better provide the means to do so :) - sofarsoShawn
Just because some social media services don't facilitate conversation well doesn't mean it doesn't exist on that service. FriendFeed EASILY facilitates the quick exchange of ideas between multiple parties, so disagreement is bound to surface. Twitter is like sticking PostIt notes on a wall, you can argue, but it ain't easy. - Johnny Worthington from iPhone
Are you guys kidding me? 37 replies and no one told Spidra that Hulk is strongest one there is? - Andrew C
Everyone agreeing isn't very informative. Agruement is good mental execise. Oh, and Hulk. - Robert Hafer from iPhone
Can't stand people who think like I do. Or who don't challenge my nonsense. - A Mitchell
NO !!!! WHATS"S YOUR PROBLEM? - JSLeFanu
Johnny, love your postit comment - Bindu Reddy
+Spidra - Geeks have indeed argued since well, the Greeks. The concept of the dialogue as a "debate" goes way back (even to Babylonian writings), but Plato perfected it: "Plato further simplified the form and reduced it to pure argumentative conversation, while leaving intact the amusing element of character-drawing. He must have begun this about the year 405-406 BC, and by 399 he had... more... - Adrian
edythe
Goodbye, Daphne Stickles - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
Goodbye, Daphne Stickles
"Daphne Stickles came to me from the Hedgehog Welfare Society, I am now a member. She was found by police officers in a closet in a hat. The man who owned her had been sent to jail and the police were there to look for evidence and found her on accident. She was in Vermont and hedgies are still illegal there, so the police contacted the HWS and asked them to get her out of Vermont asap. They called me. I had bronchitis but left for Vermont the next morning to get this hedgie that the initial rescuer named Daphne. I added Stickles later because she is bit of a grumpy girl and tended to ball up alot. I dont mind at all and I believe Stickles came to enjoy it here, she certainly didnt mind having her picture taken, with several of her flickr pics having well over 500 views, and a succesful merchandise line on cafepress. Stickles with diagnosed with a malignant jaw tumor in Oct 2009. We knew it was fast growing and she wouldnt be around much longer but she held on much longer than I... more... - edythe from Bookmarklet
What a little cutie, it is so hard to lose a friend, I'm so sorry. - martha
Thank you for sharing this wonderful story. - Sally: in Florida
So sorry, little baby. We'll see you on the other side. - Heather
:-( Oooh I'm so sorry *hugs* - Jannifer @wordsforliving
:(((((((( - Mo Kargas
:( - Rodfather
:-( So sorry to hear this. - Melissa Woo
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Forgot to say that this 40% off sale is going on until January 4th + it's on 200 expressions in the catalog... - Jannifer @wordsforliving
Robert Scoble
Yes :-) - Jesse Stay
Oy vey. I still rely on Yelp but it's not nearly as valuable as it once was once it was overrun by barely-literate whiners who don't know how to write reviews (and, also, shills). - Akiva Moskovitz
so they eat more than dog food then? - Tyson
I wish Google would eat Merchant Circle. - Jannifer @wordsforliving
Robert Scoble
GoogleAtWork: More Google Sites updates: Preview PDFs in Google Docs & Set a default location for a page template http://bit.ly/5Dglps - http://twitter.com/GoogleA...
Ooooh awesome! - Jannifer @wordsforliving
Keith Rowland
Gmail Account and Google Apps Got Hacked - http://www.labnol.org/interne...
Your gmail account got hacked?! - Jannifer @wordsforliving
Not mine, click link to read about it. - Keith Rowland
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Oh - does it mess up if you do? - Jannifer @wordsforliving
Yeah, but the support isn't bad. - Amber, Random Time Lord
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Dave Winer
It seems there are never any discussions on FriendFeed. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place?
Unfortunately, discussions here have gone south... Vocal users have moved to twitter, but there discussions are lost. And then, there's facebook -IFAIC, I try to keep it "private"... - Panayotis Vryonis
Nope, *plenty* of discussion here. It's when you're not around that you miss it. - Itachi
There was an article about how FF's quality has gotten better recently. I don't see it either, which brings a tear to my eye. We had some great, deep discussions on topics over here. That was Friendfeed to me, it was deeper engagement. - manielse (Mark Nielsen)
And I can't give Scoble all the credit but clearly he was part of that... - manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Where DID Scoble go?!... things have gotten awful quiet. - Thom Kennon
He fell in love with Twitter Lists and gave up on FF after Facebook acquired... - manielse (Mark Nielsen)
*wonders if he has transformed into chopped liver* - Morgan Haley
What kind of discussions are you looking for. We've been talking about the best Robin Hood all morning! - Jeremy (on vacation)
I agree. Little discussion here and every one I generate takes root elsewhere. I occasionally join one here, but conversation on FF has dwindled in everything I see. - Ken Camp
See here's the problem I see here: There are people that I have rarely, if ever have seen in this thread. Dave Winer is a guy who is famous in the social media world. People often sign up and follow the feeds of Winer, Scoble, and the like and that's all they see. When Scoble leaves and others, they agree with them for saying FriendFeed is dead. However, to the contrary, it's very much... more... - Itachi
I think for some of these people if you aren't a techie, your conversations aren't that important. That's one thing I've noticed that has changed on FF. There is less of some things, but a lot more meaningful interaction among the people who have remained. The people still here are the ones who value a different type of personal interaction. FF is still very active and alive. - Junebug (aka Sarah Jill)
dave - everyone moved to social median - Allen Stern
I think there's a big difference between "tech" and "social media". People like Scoble often mix this up. There is plenty of "tech" discussion on Friendfeed. And I agree, with Junebug on that respect as well. - Itachi
Dave, Jesse blogged this http://friendfeed.com/jessest... + http://friendfeed.com/jessest... . DeWitt is back http://friendfeed.com/dewitt... and Glen http://friendfeed.com/dewitt... is going strong. Also, Itachi (mohomed) has a good points. - Micah Wittman
Maybe we just aren't talking about what you want to see? Your FriendFeed != My FriendFeed :) - Johnny Worthington
Once again, the color of the speech bubbles are very telling here. Morgan, Micah, Johnny, Allen have blue. People I'm subscribed to. Names I recognize. The rest of you? White. What are you guys subscribed to, exactly? - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Bingo, Rah. The less than active tend to be subscribed to only the A-listers of social media who they are familiar with. And who, alas, aren't active on Friendfeed. - Itachi
the italian section of friendfeed is quite vocal... - Alb.
The problem is Dave that many of the tech influentials, CEOs, programmers, journalists, etc spend their time elsewhere now. There are conversations but they are dramatically different than what were happening six months ago. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
I think Itachi said it best earlier. The influentials and the like were the common glue (or routers so to speak) that joined various circles together. The routers are now gone, so now we are left with disconnected LANs. Each hold their value to that island but there much fewer bridges any more at least for the technical community. - manielse (Mark Nielsen)
There are still some very interesting conversations that happen here - you just have to be subscribed to the right people. Follow some of the OpenID guys (Micah mentioned a few) - there is still a lot of conversation in that area that goes on here. It's a great conversations medium, much better than Twitter. - Jesse Stay
I would argue many of the developers and programmers who used Friendfeed are still on here. Just because it's not the hot fad of the season doesn't mean it's dead. Slashdot isn't covered much by the social media kings, yet it's still alive and well. - Itachi
Entries on my home feed with 3 or more comments: http://friendfeed.com/search.... You're welcome to modify the number to come up with your own definition of "discussion" - Benjamin Golub
my FF has slowed down recently - people I used to have regular discussions with are either not as active, or not at the same time I am... as a result I use it less, and it probably trickles like that - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I think those people who formed a unique community on FriendFeed are noticing less of a change because their community is staying here. Those whose community exists outside of FriendFeed and merely uses FriendFeed as one channel of communication may find more volatility because it's easy to shift to the latest thing. Dave, as someone deep in the tech industry filled with early adopters (and early abandoners) your FriendFeed may be more adversely affected than others like myself. - Kevin Fox
Dave subscribes to only 122 people -- maybe he needs to broaden his horizons? - Brian Sullivan
My feed has never been busier, and I'm getting new subs every day. Of course, I'm not very techy so if you are, our paths might not cross. - Derrick
Building on Benjamin Golub's search: here's the same thing, but for friends of Dave Winer: http://friendfeed.com/search... Looks like a bunch of discussions, several in the last couple of hours. - Mark Trapp
I think everyone nailed it on this one... FF is no longer the holy land of social media zealot discussion, but has retained a very real connectivity to it surrounding non-tech and some-what tech individuals. IMO, Scoble and the like are not the celebs of current FF, but true wonderful characters like Derrick are becoming them in their absence. If left alone long enough this place could really be cool. - SAM
Not all discussions are in the main feed either. There's a ton of active groups. - Rodfather
Kevin should win an award or something for clarity of thought. And to throw in my two cents behind many of the others here, my feed is nuts. I often have to rely on a subset list along with RSS notices just to keep up. Also, unlike the last few months, I'm starting to see a lot of new subs recently. My guess is that FriendFeed is not dead; it was just tired after a long squawk. Seems to be perking up quite nicely now. - Akiva Moskovitz
+1 Rodfather. Group discussions don't show up in the main feed unless someone cross-posts to their personal feed. Also, techy discussion is fairly limited these days, for the reasons previously mentioned. Mostly it's discussion about our personal lives, work or some article that may be about tech gadgets, but isn't really a technical discussion. - Jason Huebel
Oh, and for one, I would like to see more tech-oriented discussions here. Sure, I'm all about the hyper-hangout that FriendFeed has become but I also miss the hardcore geek-outs that used to occur here. And I just seriously can't get my head around people having the same quality discussions about tech on Twitter that we used to have here. - Akiva Moskovitz
Yeah, it's not possible to have a discussion on Twitter. I've posted some tech-oriented things recently and I'm beginning to move more toward geeky stuff in general, but a lot of my geekier discussions are in groups that don't make it into the main feed. - Jason Huebel
I actually think the conversation streams and peeps have diversified from more hardcore tech to more cultural, art, cooking! not a bad thing. just a different tone and nature of the conversations. i still like that quote from a FF denizen who said "Facebook is where i hang out with people i already know. FriendFeed is where I hang out with people I'm getting to know." Speaking of FB -... more... - Thom Kennon
Dave, let's back up here... Looking at your feed, 99% of your posts are just imports from other services (mainly Twitter). Then you hop over to FriendFeed and say "why doesn't anyone discuss anything anymore?" It's because you aren't participating here. Gotta give something to get something. Commenting on your own Disqus imports isn't participation, either. I think the fact of the matter is that people don't feel an obligation to feed the geekeratti egos now that they've all but abandoned the service. - Jason Huebel
The last reply you made to a post that wasn't your own was back on December 1st (http://friendfeed.com/chrisme...). Two weeks ago! And you haven't even replied to this post, which you made 3 hours ago. - Jason Huebel
I also appreciate the fact that a large majority of users are having discussions in languages OTHER than English. - Johnny Worthington
It's an elegant social network for a more civilized age. - Goran Zec
Johnny, why? - Akiva Moskovitz
Because it counters the thinking (or lack of thinking) of a few social media experts that places like FriendFeed and Twitter and other social networks only exists in western, English speaking countries... - Johnny Worthington
Not everyone has an iPhone, not everyone can watch Hulu, not everyone can play Foursquare, not everyone has unlimited (uncapped) bandwidth, not everyone wants to know the news the second it happens, not everyone cares who someone reads and not everyone wants to talk tech 24/7. I like it outside the bubble :) - Johnny Worthington
Maybe I do need to follow more people, but with the same number of followers there used to always be something interesting in FF to read about and comment on. - Dave Winer
I also love the non-English. gives the place both a global feel - and reality. I have peeps, clients, etc. around the world and FriendFeed is our agreed great leveler. - Thom Kennon
People you used to follow here have moved on to Twitter. Not many techies around these days. This leaves the rest, regular guys talking about regular stuff. But maybe this kind of discussions don't interest you. - Jordi Soler
It's like a garden, if you don't tend to the garden bed, weeds will grow. If you don't prune your roses, you just have dead twigs. - Johnny Worthington
@Thom and Johnny, I participate in the non-English posts fairly often. It's easier with FF Translate, even though I can only reply in English (and hope they can read it). Hey Micah, any chance you can make a translate thingamajig that goes the opposite direction? Translate my English to the language of the post? - Jason Huebel
Jordi there are still a lot of Techies - follow Dewitt Clinton, myself, Chris Messina, Dave Recordon even some times participates. Then there's Paul, Bret, Benjamin, Kevin, etc. of the FF Team. Cristo's a techie. I could go on and on... - Jesse Stay
In fact I probably participate with more techies than non on here. - Jesse Stay
There are a ton of conversations here and some are tons more interesting than others. This one is interesting. The question is though if you are not having a conversation here - where are you hanging out lately? - Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Dave, I've been following you since at least 1995, and long before Friendfeed and Twitter. It was because of you that I heard about and joined Friendfeed and I regret the fact that it's lost its momentum since being absorbed into Facebook. There is still no substitute for what FF used to be. But the circus has left town now and there is no way of bringing it back. FF will continue and... more... - Tim Ostler
@Jesse: Perhaps I don't follow the right people then. Anyway, it was not a complaint, it was just a theory of what has happened to Friendfeed recently. More international content (myself) and more "social" posts. Which does not mean that there aren't any techies left. I'll follow your recommendations, thanks! - Jordi Soler
I blame Facebook for all problems related to any lack of participation over here (j/k) - Jannifer @wordsforliving
Although "blame" is a harsh word, the Facebook acquisition was a significant turning point. Whether that's a downturn or not is debatable, but that's when most of the tech-elite skipped town. I admit to feeling down-in-the-mouth occasionally because I miss the technical involvement of the FF devs. But there is still a lot of good discussion here. It's just not as technical in nature. - Jason Huebel
Discussions are not missing. They're just harder to find. - Louis Gray
Jason, it's worth a good hard think and discussion. Posting translated text is a thornier issue (thinking form the POV of the tool maker). It commits to record an imperfect source, with any successive translations further degrading the signal (copy of a copy). Maybe I'm overly concerned about it, but like I said - needs more discussion. Thanks for getting the ball rolling :) - Micah Wittman
@kr8tr tried to hold a 30 min real-time Q&A yesterday via Twitter on "What's it like to be Scoble's boss". I bailed because little way to follow. Twitter search on "@kr8tr" kind of worked but you had to keep refreshing. Google search a little better. But it would have been ideal had he announced it on Twitter (where everybody is) and then pointed to Friendfeed for the Q&A. Not sure there's a better platform for that kind of rt discussion. - Nick in Manila
Another prob with Twitter in above context is everyone is using different Twitter apps that regurgitate the firehose at different rates so some people see comments much later that others. On Friendfeed, the sequence is at least consistent across participants. - Nick in Manila
Dave, you might need to broaden your interests. - zeroinfluencer
Nick: I agree. One little datapoint, though. Since Facebook bought FriendFeed I've gained 14,000 followers on Twitter. That is more followers than all but five people on FriendFeed have. The reason Twitter is popular is, well, it's popular. I'm sad that FriendFeed lost out, but it did. Oh, and Facebook has similar threading to FriendFeed only you have to refresh the page to see new... more... - Robert Scoble
Robert, with the 14,000 new followers, is that a spike or did it follow natural upward trends? - Johnny Worthington
Johnny: it's definitely going up faster lately due to new list feature. - Robert Scoble
So do we assume conversations are "dying"? (Hate the word, every once in a while something "dies" in the internet...) - Jordi Soler
It would also be helpful to evaluate the level of conversation that was here and has now left. Quantity != Quality - Johnny Worthington from iPhone
For each of us it depends who we are following and who is following us, and whether people with interests in discussing certain things overlap in time sufficiently with you to get a conversation going - I guess I need to change my follow profile - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
There's 59 comments and 32 likes on this thread. What are you looking for exactly? That said, I tend to read only the 1st and last comment in these long threads. - Vincent van Wylick
Vincent you got me there. Of course I knew there would be 33 likes and a zillion comments on this when I posted it. I am such an unreasonable person and you could see that! Your mother must be so proud of her little Vincent. :-) - Dave Winer
thats why i am out of here and spending my time in boredom ,reading or sleeping - ffcode
Vincent, the reason there is so much activity on this thread is because the topic is Friendfeed, specifically lack of activity on Friendfeed. People will flock to a topic if they can prove it wrong. - Jason Williams from iPhone
@Jason, that's a kind of cynical view, don't you think? This is a topic that's of common interest to everyone on FF. Most other posts are only interesting to smaller groups of people. That's not a bad thing. I think there is just a wider array of topics to talk about on FF now that tech evangelists have moved on. So the activity is spread out. - Jason Huebel
And again, looking at your feed activity, you spend very little time interacting with others on FF. Most of your activity is importing from Facebook. So your experience isn't going to be as good as someone who actually shows interest in the posts of others here. - Jason Huebel
I wasn't saying there aren't conversations to be found but I'm talking about his experience. He wasn't seeing any interactions on his posts until he posted about FF. Make your own conclusions. - Jason Williams
Which is why I said "again". Dave Winer's interaction with other people's posts is minimal as well. He comments on his own posts all the time. But you'll never start a conversation if you only talk to yourself. - Jason Huebel
Dave has obviously not visited the Life Scientists room :) - Deepak Singh
it's a hard sell when you can't engage with your own content, for sure. I'm trying to be better at adding commentary as to why I thought it important enough to (re)post what I (re)post rather than leave it to a bunch of bots to aggregate/shovel it out. - ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
But he did start a conversation, it's just that it was about Friendfeed so others joined in. Go look at best of day at any time and you'll find multiple items about Friendfeed. It doesn't bode well for a service if the most popular activity on that service is about said service. If you looked at Twitter and saw half of the trending topics looking like (Twitter fail, twitter is dead,... more... - Jason Williams
Jason, I don't comment on my own posts. That's the second time you said it, and you're wrong. I hooked up my Disqus feed to FF so you're seeing my comments there echoed here. Stop being such a wiseass, you're not half as smart as you think you are. - Dave Winer
I'd love FriendFeed discussions. You can't have them on Twitter because of the lack of threads and you can't keep track of everyone's message. One of my biggest issues with Twitter. - Patrick from twhirl
Ah, nice. Name calling and insults. But you've just proven my point. The "comments" are also coming from somewhere else. You expect to have people interact with you but you invest very little time in FF yourself. If you put even a small percentage of effort into FF that you do other services, you might actually see results. It's no longer good enough to import one's feeds into FF and expect people to pay attention. That ended when many of the tech elite left the service back in August. - Jason Huebel
The truth is, the people left here on FF are mostly "little fish" when it comes to tech. So one really can't expect to get 1000 likes and 2000 comments on a post anymore. None of us have a "fan base" that can support that. - Jason Huebel
I don't expect anything -- I asked a question. - Dave Winer
I think Friendfeed is evolving into something quite different of what some people predicted a while back. But it's not dying, no way. - Jordi Soler
Except when I'm addressing the issues I've pointed out with your feed, when I say "you", I'm using that as people in general. I can change all the you's to "one", if that will clarify. (Done.) - Jason Huebel
Jordi, what is your definition of dying? Is it different than people leaving en mass (with the exception of non-english speaking countries) and the talent behind the service bought up by a mega-site all the while people arguing weather the service is viable/dying? - Jason Williams
Good point. Dying as in "Geocities dying". But I see people talking about many things everyday. Just not the same topics there used to be. - Jordi Soler
OK wait, Dave. First you claim that there are no discussions on FF. Then you say you don't comment on your own posts. The way I was brought up was that a discussion is when you say something, then other people respond, then you respond back, and so on. FF, like most anything else in life, is what you make it. If you don't interact with people here, then you have little basis for complaining (sorry, _observing_) that there are never any discussions here. - vicster is...
I don't understand why people think the convo on friendfeed has gone down hill. It is the same if not better then it was before. If you don't like the discussions from the people you are following then find some new people to follow. - Mathew™ one of a kind
i dunno about other people, but my FF is jumping so fast lately that i can barely keep up...and now it's mostly things i DO want to read about. - Joe Silence
vicster+++ I just skimmed, but this dude sounds like he hasn't been skiing for three years and says "how come no one ever skies anymore?" If you came to the FF mountain once in a while, you'd see my crazy ass every freaking day. I use FF more now than I ever have, more than I ever dreamed I'd enjoy. Now maybe you think the mountain has been taken over by hooligans, and that may be a fair point, but the caliber and content of my discussions do not make them non-discussions. - Lo
My conclusion, based on this thread, is that there is indeed some discussing going on on FF. Mostly of the "Neener neener" variety. :-) - Dave Winer
You can't base your conclusion on one thread of conversation with a topic like this. Why don't go and look for other people to follow and you'll see some activity. - Mathew™ one of a kind
Well, sure. You called us out. So there's going to be a bit of that. But in all honesty, there's a lot of good people here with a lot to talk about. You just have to seek it out. - Jason Huebel
@Dave: "Neener neener" is the response your comments require lately. - Joe Silence
Of course you don't see any conversations taking place...you aren't even subscribed to me. - Alex Scoble
+1 Alex, the Scoble of FF. - manielse (Mark Nielsen)
When I said "Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place?" I was (in case it wasn't totally obvious) looking for suggestions not lectures. I'm now following Alex Scoble. I check FF many times each day. - Dave Winer
Woo! I finally hit the big time! Seriously, though...thanks for the subscription, Dave. Much appreciated. - Alex Scoble
Dave, what type of topics are you most interested in? - Johnny Worthington from iPhone
If the FriendFeed community were not so oversensitive, one of the 100 comments above would have answered Dave's question by pointing him to the advanced search form, specifically the "at least _ comments" field and the saved search feature. Then he could quickly find discussions on his favorite topics every visit. - Bruce Lewis from fftogo
Bruce: That was the 23rd comment, from Benjamin Golub. How more/less oversensitive does that make us? ;-) - Ken Sheppardson
Good point, Ken. I searched for "advanced", "comments" and one other term, but didn't find that one. It makes the community 34.7% less oversensitive. - Bruce Lewis from fftogo
Sweet. - Ken Sheppardson
Friendfeed and Twitter lack the depth and breadth of Facebook, no matter which way you slice it. Gather the best minds of our generation, in many fields and areas, on Facebook, and you will not have to complain. Friendfeed and Twitter are, however, useful as secondary feeds into Facebook. - david beckwith
FriendFeed still saves my stuff, unlike Facebook where my posts are lost in the ether, but I do miss the more active FriendFeed of times past. I think once "best of" became a standard feature, FriendFeed shifted to more family, personal life, etc... discussions rather than "tech" stuff (for better or for worse). Even for techies, new/lost jobs, new/old romances, etc... generated more feedback & discussion than most tech topics. - Mitchell Tsai
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"... However, with the bitterly cold weather we have had lately I think I may just be able to bear the much longer flight down to Australia and enjoy a Christmas dinner under this gum tree. Rannuculas, birdcages and cherry blossoms...oh my!" - Jannifer @wordsforliving from Bookmarklet
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My mom offered to get me a steam mop for Christmas but I don't really know what kind to get, guess I will do some research and decide if we need it or if the regular mop will be enough. For the one time a year that I mop the floor.
Do you have mostly carpet or hard floors? - Jannifer @wordsforliving
mostly hardwood and tile - Andrizzle Gizzle
Andrizzle Gizzle
I have always been jealous of my brother because he is like the smartest dude, he gets along with people, he is a natural leader, he has a good work ethic and will power, etc. But I also know those things do not always come easy to him, he has worked really hard to break out of his introvert shell. I am very proud of him he is such an awesome dude!
I kind of always thought he looked down on me a little because we are a lot different (I am lazy) but he told me recently that he admires what a good artist I am and that I can write real good, I have been helping him with his vet school applications and writing is like his one weak point. - Andrizzle Gizzle
We really used to have the WORST relationship.. it wasn't until I moved away that we actually got to know each other. There was something about being around our mom that really puts us both in our fighting place. - Andrizzle Gizzle
He is going to school full time for pre-vet taking like 21 hours a semester, working full time as student manager at the school's farm, volunteers at an animal shelter 1-2 days a week, shadows a vet, and he got an on-call job to be an assistant at an animal hospital OR.. I was giving him a hard time about my schedule next semester because I have to go 3 days a week and my first class starts at 3!! - Andrizzle Gizzle
I'm still an introvert in the shell :-/ - Jannifer @wordsforliving
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For the Love of Quotes ~ I have a NEW Blog MAKEOVER for this blog! What do you think? Too much pink or too girly? This designer make me a cute custom signature with the birdie... I LOVE it! ❤ - http://fortheloveofquotes.blogspot.com/
For the Love of Quotes ~ I have a NEW Blog MAKEOVER for this blog!  What do you think?  Too much pink or too girly? This designer make me a cute custom signature with the birdie... I LOVE it! ❤
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I'm not normally into pink colors too much, but I did like this design... - Jannifer @wordsforliving from Bookmarklet
the last time I posted something about this on FF, I didn't have the custom birdie signature and link badge to show you & that's why I'm showing you again. Those are posted after the banner image... - Jannifer @wordsforliving
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